Locked In with Ian Bick - How I Survived Being Locked Up In A Texas Jail | Amber Mettlen

Episode Date: September 7, 2025

Amber Mettlen was born in Texas, lost her father young, and moved with her mom and five siblings to Ohio—a turning point that sent her into the wrong crowd, juvenile detention, and years of chaos. As an adult, a DUI led to jail time. After moving back to Texas, a second DUI and felony charges put her 30 days inside a Texas jail. Amber later went viral for her no-filter jail stories, and in this episode she opens up about juvenile detention vs. adult jail, what a Texas county jail is really like, the cost of DUIs, how fast a night out becomes a felony, and the hard lessons that helped her turn everything around. #TrueCrime #PrisonStories #DUI #AddictionRecovery #SecondChances #TexasJail #JuvenileDetention #redemptionstory Thank you to PRIZEPICKS for sponsoring this episode: Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/IANBICK and use code IANBICK and get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Connect with Amber Mettlen: https://www.instagram.com/amber.texas/?hl=en Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Presented by Tyson 2.0 & Wooooo Energy: https://tyson20.com/ https://woooooenergy.com/ Use code LOCKEDIN for 20% OFF Wooooo Energy Buy Merch: http://www.ianbick.com/shop Timestamps: 00:00 Intro & Amber's Early Life 03:54 Losing Her Dad & Moving to Ohio 06:34 Struggles After the Move 10:02 Falling Into Trouble – Shoplifting & Juvie 13:50 Life Inside Juvenile Detention 18:13 Growing Up in Juvie & First Relationships 25:50 Lessons Learned & Transitioning Out 31:31 Motherhood, Gun Charge & Moving Back to Texas 36:33 Trying to Settle Down & DUI Trouble 44:54 Felony Case & 30-Day Sentence 52:52 Preparing for Jail & Going Viral on TikTok 01:01:35 Jail Intake, Suicide Watch & Life in the Dungeon 01:10:07 Life in the Turtle Pond – Fights, Sleep Deprivation, Drama 01:17:06 Commissary, Jail Items & Survival Culture 01:21:06 Release, Aftermath & Lessons Learned 01:26:00 Reflections, Parenting, and Looking Ahead Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This sounds like a reality TV show. Oh, it definitely could have been. What do you think was the craziest thing you witnessed in jail? I remember going in, as soon as they opened it and they were like, this is where you're going to be at, my jaw dropped. I'm like, there's no way. Amber Metland was born in Texas and everything changed when her dad died and her mom moved six kids to Ohio. As a teenager, Amber fell in with the wrong crowd and spent years in juvie. As an adult, a DUI put her in jail and after moving back to Texas, a second DUI and

felony charges landed her 30 days inside at Texas jail. She later went viral for her raw jail stories. Now she's here to share the lessons that saved her, how she's turning her life around, and what she wants others to know before they make the same mistakes. Amber, welcome to Lockton. Thanks so much for coming on the show. Thank you. I'm excited about being here.

Appreciate you having me. Of course. We saw you go viral on Instagram a few months ago, which we're going to talk about today. And we reached out. And you flew in from Texas? Yes, I'm from East Texas. Okay. Small town, yeah.

Did you grow up there? I grew up there, moved to Northeast Ohio when I was 13. So I spent some time in Akron. That's actually where my children were born and then came back home. Okay. Where in Texas? So I live in White House, Texas. It's the biggest city is Tyler.

But yeah, it's right in between Dallas and Louisiana. We're like smack in the middle. And that's the place you grew up to? Yeah. Okay. Who'd you grow up with? So I'm the oldest of six kids. I have two sisters, three brothers, single mom. So my mom had me when she was 16.

So yeah, it was just us. Where was your dad? So my dad actually passed away and I was 12. And that's what caused us to move to Ohio when we did. What did your mom do for work? So she worked with the mentally handicapped growing up, but she's had a slew of job. So she's always just been hardworking. My dad owned his own trucking company, and that's actually what took his life.

So there was an accident involving an 18-wheeler. So, yeah, both my parents, very hardworking, honest people. But yeah, so now I'm the oldest of 11 kids. So there were six of us growing up. My mom actually adopted five more. She's a saint. She does amazing with children. It's almost like cheaper by the dozen.

Yeah. Yeah. How did your father's death affect your family financially after? Did your lives change a lot? Oh, everything was different. So after he passed away, like I said, we moved. So we couldn't afford to live in East Texas where we were staying. So we moved to Canton, Akron area where it's cheaper.

And then just my whole world was different. Before he passed, was your life, how would you describe? I mean, we still struggled just because, like I said, my mom was real young when she had me. There was a lot of us in the house. So, I mean, we still struggled. You know, I grew up on government assistance living in HUD housing, Section 8 type of deal. But I didn't know it. You know what I mean?

None of us kids were really aware of that. Were you and your siblings close? Yeah, I would say so, yeah. How would you describe yourself as a kid when you were growing up? Just very outgoing. Like, I talked to everybody. I just, I never met a stranger. So I think I was very naive.

Sometimes I think I still might be a little naive like that. But I just always seen the best in people. What would you say is your happiest childhood memory? Happiest childhood memory? Probably fishing with my dad. That's my favorite pastime. Were you more of like a boy type girl? So I was very much, you know, bareful.

foot, dirt road, like country growing up. And yes, I'd say I was a tall boy growing up. But I also had that diva side where I'd just, you know, dress up as a princess with the heels. So I have both sides, I think. What do you think was your saddest childhood memory? Definitely the passing of my dad. I mean, that just changed so much.

And just the way it happened, you know, it was a freak accident. So it just came out of nowhere. How hard was it readdressing to a new school when you guys moved from Texas to Ohio? Well, where I'm from in East Texas, it's very different just from anywhere, I think. But Ohio was just a culture shock. We moved to a very poor part of Ohio where everything was real old and run down. But I don't know. I think my mindset was different too.

So I went from the kid that just seen the best in people and, you know, outgoing and friendly to like, I guess I just seen the ugly. I just seen more of the ugly. So, I mean, we were still in the ghetto when we moved up there. So I kind of went from a trailer park to now the hood. Did people look at you differently because you were from down south? Oh, God. Oh, yeah. I had a thick accent, too I always got made fun of.

I secretly think everybody loved it, but, like, of course, they're making fun of the honky. Yeah, I feel like kids at a young age will make fun of an accent, but when you get older, you kind of appreciate it. Yeah. Now, how did your mindset change when you moved to Ohio from Texas? My mindset, well, first, you know, I was 12, but so I was like, I was like in the day. DARE program and like wanted to be the best of everything. I think I just tried really hard when I was younger. And then after the death of my dad, it just went from like I didn't really care about

anything. So then moving, I was used to like change in schools. I think after my dad died that year, I went to seven different schools. Why so many? So I think my mom was just trying to find our place. And I don't know. She was having a really tough time. I think part of it is she was kind of running away, too, from some of the memories down here or down in Texas.

So then we moved to Indiana for like six months. And then we moved to Ohio and we just, yeah, I went through seven different schools. But I really didn't care about being the new kid. I didn't care about making friends. I mean, I just didn't care. There was actually a point when I was 12 years old. I'm just getting exposed to all these things and people that, like, I ended up, you know, trying to, kill myself. So I overdosed on colotapin when I was 12. And I think that was just a big reason was,

of course, the passing of my dad. I just didn't care. And then when we moved to Ohio, I actually started making friends. And I think, you know, we were there long enough. So I was like, okay, maybe this is my new normal. But really, that was the only time I did, I would say, hard drugs was when I was 12. And like I said, it was really just, I guess, from the trauma of losing my dad. But then it went from that to, like, drinking. Like, everybody that I was hanging out with in Ohio, like, they were drinking, underage drinking.

So that's when I started drinking and sneaking out and running away. Did your sibling struggle the same way you did? No, not until we got older. They didn't struggle. My dad, I was the only kid with my dad. So their dads were still alive. So I don't think they struggled with that. And plus they were so young.

They were younger than me. So did you feel like you didn't have someone that you could actually talk to that was your same age to help you get through it? Right. Yeah. I just, yeah, I felt really alone. And then that led me to hanging out with people that I had no business hanging out with, you know. And this group of individuals, they were all big drinkers? Yeah.

I mean, everybody drank. We just sit on the porch and drink, especially, you know, during the summertime on the weekends. And that was normal for that area, at least? Yeah, and what's crazy is it was normal. And these people are, you know, 18, 19. I mean, they're still underage for drinking, but they're hanging out with a 13, 14-year-old, you know, a kid drinking with her. So it's not normal now. I know that.

But, yeah, it was then. Do you feel like your mom was there for you as much as she could have been after your dad's passing? Or do you feel like she got kind of distant? I know she was dealing with things on her own. I think she was there for me as much as she could have been. You know, she definitely was struggling to, you know. And then she had so much responsibility. So she tried, but, I mean, there was a lot of us and there was a lot going on.

When you were in high school, did you have plans for after high school, college, career-wise? What were you thinking? So growing up, I just always wanted to be an actress. I wanted to be Mary Kate and Ashley. That was like my goal. my dream. But afterwards, and I would have loved to been a writer, too. I thought about that, writing, journalism. But after the passing of my dad, I just did not think. I never thought that I would turn 18. I was like, I don't see me getting older. So, did you end up finishing high school?

No, I ended up getting my GED. Why did you leave high school? So growing up, I started getting locked up around 14. So I was in the Jubey system. A lot. So I'd say from age 14 to they actually let me out a couple months before I turned 18. So 14 to 17, almost 18. I was in the Jubey system. What was that first arrest for? The first one I think I was with some friends and we were shoplifting. Why shoplifting?

I think we were just bored. We didn't have anything else to do. We didn't have any money. So we just would go around and see if we could steal stuff and see if we could get away with it. Do you think that this plays into your dad's passing and moving around? Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. So after the shoplifting, I ended up getting on probation,

and that's what kept me stuck in the system. Because I had a big authority problem that I had to deal with. And so, yeah, it's definitely all ties into the passing. Like I said, that's a big pivotal moment. The catalyst. Yeah, in my life. This episode is brought to you by prize picks. You and I make decisions every day, but on prize picks, being right can get you paid.

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And then I think my mom got tired of it. You know, she had a lot, she had just a lot going on at the house, raising the other kids. And so she was just like, keep her in there. And, yeah. So I'm in there and I'm like, okay, well, I don't think I'm getting out this time. But I did, and I did that a couple times. And then they actually were like, you know, you're running away so much and you're putting yourself in these dangerous situations.

And the last time I got locked up, I actually, you know, almost died. I was in Cleveland, which was like two hours away from where we lived. And the ambulance had to, like, carry me out and take me to it. I woke up in a hospital, like, with an IV in my arm. I'm like, what's going on? So I had blacked out drinking. There was a fight. Someone got stabbed.

Like, the girl was there with got stabbed. And she was, like, trying to protect me. So the only reason I didn't die is I was, like, in this room. And she locked the door so that the girls that were, you know, fighting and had the weapons couldn't get in. And so she actually, like, she got stabbed all over, had some defensive wounds for me. And that was like a big wake-up call. So then I went to jail, and then that's when they kept me.

I spent my sweet 16 in jail. And then I think I did 11 months while I was there. And I went to like a treatment facility. Basically, it was just like a bunch of runaways. A lot of kids were in foster system that I was locked up with. and I'd say the treatment facility did well. It taught me to take responsibility, and that was the biggest thing is like, yes, this happened to you, yeah, you know, it's not fair. You know, when someone that you love dies and then you've got all this stress of the world.

But, like, there's things that you can control and, you know, you got to take responsibility. How did it make you feel that your mom left you there that first time? Oh, I was so mad. I was so hurt, you know. I just had a lot of rage growing up, like a lot. Did you always have that rage from a young kid or it was after the accident? I would say I was a brat. Yeah, growing up, I'd say I threw tantrums.

I think I was at first used to get in my way and then later it was like, well, there's so many kids. And like, I think I acted up to get attention. Now, we have a lot of guests on the show that go to a male juvenile detention center. We don't really get to hear too much about a woman's one. Can you tell us about that? Your experience was 11 months? There wasn't a lot of girls there. they took it easy on us.

You know what I mean? I feel like they did at first. But it was like the same people. It was always the same kids. Like I said, the kids that were in a foster system, the kids that really didn't have a good support system, they were always running away or getting into trouble. And so it was just always the same people.

I think it's a tough job, like to be a CEO for the Juvies because, you know, you feel bad for the kids. But I actually met my kids' father there, so my baby daddy. It was like love and lockup juvie edition. Wait, they put women and men together? So because I was there so long, I had to get transferred out because there were more women coming in or girls at the time coming in. So then they transferred me like two and a half hours from where I lived.

And then in that facility, they had the girls and the guys. But we would rotate. You know, we didn't have class together, but we, I mean, we'd seen each other. We'd play volleyball with each other. And we actually would pass notes. So that's how me and him met. Now, are these cells you guys are locked in? Or are they dormitories?

What's a layout? Their cells. Yeah, you're by yourself. No bonkeys. You know, you're by yourself. Is it pretty strict? Oh, yeah. I mean, I would say strict.

Yeah. What about the food? It's a lot bad. The Jubey food was a lot better than adult jail food, that's for sure. I mean, I don't think it gets. it's much worse than county food. Yeah, we heard from some juvenile correctional officers. There'd be like snack time and stuff.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I gained a lot of weight, too. So I went in to jail like this bean pole. And I remember coming home. And it was like I was a woman. Like, you know, I mean, I gained a lot of weight in juvie. So did a part of you like being there because it was probably better than your home life? And in a way?

Did I like being there? Well, I was always running away. from home so I know I didn't want to be home. So I wouldn't say that I liked being there either, but I guess I felt like I was on my own. And I like that feeling sometimes. Sometimes, you know, it gets lonely or whatever, but I do like the sense of, okay, being on my own. I feel like that's manageable. Was it like an escape from reality?

Yeah, very much so, yeah. Now those years you were there, those are pretty pivotal years, you know, going through puberty and your teenage years. what was that like for you in a juvenile detention center? So, I mean, I don't know. I guess I really don't know what normal, like what normal puberty is or like going through it in high school. Of course, I didn't go to high school.

We had school, but, you know, it was very different. I don't know. I think it was hard, but I learned a lot about myself because it was just myself. Do you know what I mean? So I was very self-aware at a young age. Yeah, I'm sure, or did they have female correctional officers kind of showing you guys things or anything of that nature? So they did. So they would have nurses come in. They would have, like, Dennis, like doctors come in and show you how to properly brush your teeth. You know, they told you, you know, how to use hygiene stuff. You know, like how to shave, anything like that?

No, so my grandma taught me how to shave when I was like 11. Is that normal to learn at 11? I think I was very curious So I asked her You know I had been like Sneaking her razor And I would do that I'd sneak my mom's clothes

And makeup and stuff I think every girl does that When they're younger But I couldn't figure out how to get around Like shave around my knee And so she showed me how to do it Wait why would you shave your knee Well just your legs

Like when you're shaving I'm not a girl I forgot about that I actually think the first time I shaved I tried shaving my legs Like in middle school or something Really? Did you swim? No just I heard that too

And swimmers would shave their legs. Yeah. Yeah. No, I wanted to join the swim team. Never did. I went into theater all four years. Oh, nice. I would love to do that.

Yeah, theater was good. It was fun. You got made fun of a little bit, but it was fun. So you were a theater kid. I was a theater kid. I did musical theater as in elementary school, like summer camps. And then I did the musicals all four years of high school. Do you like it?

I liked it. Yeah. I mean, I guess in a way, this is kind of performing. Yeah. Like being you're on stage, you're in front of an audience. So it kind of has. that so I guess it doesn't really go away but acting and all that not so much you know I mean we do like the skits and stuff but um I like doing this yeah this wasn't even a job when we were growing up no

no there was no podcasting back then I didn't even really realize it was a job for the lot until the last couple of years it just so new like if I tried to do this like three or four years ago I don't think it would have worked with all the tools that are out there now yeah well you're killing it I mean you're just on a roll thanks Amber I appreciate you so You get through Drivenile's attention. You're done with that by when 17, 18 years ago? Yeah, so they let me out. I couldn't get out because I kept fighting.

So it's usually like a six-month program. They say six to nine months. You can get out of the program. But I just booked so much. You know, like I said, I had an authority problem. The women that came in there or the girls, sorry. The girls that came in there, I was just always fighting with them. I couldn't graduate the program.

But finally, like a couple months before I turned 18, And they were like, you got to go. Like a fist fight? Fist fights, yeah. What would you guys fight over? Okay, so the facility, like, they encourage telling on people snitching. You know what I mean? So they would, like, call communities if you said something, if you cussed or like really anything.

If any little thing, you were supposed to hold them accountable. So you'd grab another person and you say, hey, should you be doing that? And you confront them. And then you might even call like a community. where the whole, everybody comes into the hallway and they just talk about it. It would be minor things. You know what I mean? Like if you skip a chore or something, it's like they call this big discussion. It just gets irritated. And then of course women are catty or girls, especially teenage girls. So they're doing little spiteful things to get back at you. You really had to

have an alliance, I guess, while you were there. And so eventually I was there the longest. I did have like a little alliance and that's how I was able to get through that. Give us like a good fight story. Good fight story. So twice I fought in what they called the community, which is just the meeting in the hallway where it's just like I guess at first being held accountable, but then also being held accountable because like out of spite. So, you know, maybe I took too long in the shower or something and so they've got a chip on

their shoulder with me and so they're going to call a community or something and it's just like I know what you're doing bitch so it's like so twice I fought during that and it gets broken up pretty quickly this sounds like a like a reality TV show it definitely could have been instead of like 16 pregnant they should have put like 16 locked up or something right that that's what I said like love love and lockup juvie edition or something or yeah it was definitely crazy and I think that's an original experience to grow up in the juvie system, I guess, and then to meet, like I said, who I thought was the love of my life, but it just turned out to be my baby daddy. Yeah, so how did you guys meet you, passed a note or something?

Yeah, so we'd pass notes in the Bible, like, and we'd leave the Bible, like, different places we knew the other person would be at. And then, like I said, we played volleyball together, so we were able to, they let us talk and stuff while we played sports. Was this your first real, first crush? Yeah, so he was my first real boyfriend, yeah And you guys started dating while you're in there Or when you got out?

When I got out, yeah Well, I had gotten out and then he had gotten out later But we were both in and out so much So it was kind of like on and off Very toxic But that was like my real That was like my first real relationship What was he there for?

So he was into some harder stuff than I was So he had gotten in trouble for a gun I think he had a gun that he brought to school and then from there he caught his first felony and then it was the same thing like probation and then he could never pass a drug to us he was smoking weed you know we were all smoking weed and drinking and stuff like that

what do you think attracted you to him he was very tall it was tall dark and just muscular he looked much older than I think I've always been attracted to older guys so like he didn't look our age at all you know I was 16 so but and then when I got it

And then he knew my struggle too because, of course, he's in the same kind of situation. Did you, was that like your first, say, life experience where you look past someone for their criminal charges and the things they've done? Yeah. Yeah, I guess so. The way my mom raised me to is never to judge someone based off of the mistakes they make, you know, to take everyone at face value until, you know, they show you otherwise. So that was installed in me at a young age. And then to the, like I said, the communities I grew up in, we were in the hood. We were in the trailer park. So I kind of was used to that, I think. Do you think you gained a lot of life experience, street smarts from being in juvenile detention during all those teenage years?

Every time I went in, I learned something else. And these were kids that were really, like, you know, selling drugs. And here I am just a runaway. I just didn't want to be at home, but, like, they're, you know, they've got weapons. And, I mean, this is a part of their life. Like, so I met a lot of different people. What would you say are the biggest lessons you learned in that facility? Or just spending your time those teenage years there?

I think that the biggest lesson, you know, I had to accept, you know, there is an authority that we all at some point have to submit to. you know, you're not the queen of the world. You're not the queen of your own, you know, there's people you have to answer to. So I worked on that. I think the biggest takeaway, though, was like just taking responsibility for what you can. You know, things happen to you, but being able to own up and, you know, just be responsible. So you get out, what happens to your life then? So I get out.

I'm almost 18, which, like I said, I never thought that I would see the day. And, you know, got serious with that guy. I was telling you about I had a kid at 18. So my first son came at 18. When he was born, he had some heart issues. So we were like, this was a very serious situation. And we were back and forth at the hospital a lot. He had to have three open heart surgeries.

So it was like, and I was still a kid, you know what I mean? And so that was a lot to go through. But, you know, I always wanted a family. And like I said, my mom had her children really early. So I just knew like, okay, I'm ready to start a family. Or at least I thought I was ready. So, yeah. So then I had my oldest son, had my youngest when I was 20.

And my mom actually moved my siblings back to Texas around, I was like 20, 21. So she moves back to Texas. And I actually run into some more trouble. I had a gun on me and we got pulled over. So, you know, I had this carrying a concealed weapon charge pending. And I was very nervous, you know, for my kids. And, of course, their dad just, he's still in and out. As an adult, he's still in and out.

But this was my first time getting arrested as an adult was for the carrying a concealed weapon. That charge did get dismissed. Thank God. So, so, but after that, I'm like, okay, need to move back home. You know, I want to raise my kids. where I went to school and, like, raise them the way that I was raised up. So we all came down. What were you doing with a gun?

So, you know, hanging out with questionable people, I was a passenger in the car. So I was going with my home girl. She was going to meet, like, her sugar daddy or something. I didn't know this guy. I didn't know, like, the situation. And so just I felt more safe if I at least had some protection. Because there's just two women going to this guy's house. so and you just casually had that you're casually with these people um that i didn't know that i didn't

know the girl very well either so i was kind of skeptical about her and then too it just being me but like so in texas everybody has guns like where i'm from so it was more normal yeah okay were you aware the gun was in the car yeah okay and you were okay with that yeah i mean i had it well i didn't have it all my person actually i tried to hide it when we got pulled over, but it made me feel more comfortable. So how did the charge get dismissed against you? So the charge got dismissed. They actually destroyed the gun.

So when they took it into evidence, they destroyed it. The cops did? Yeah. Well, I don't know. It got put into evidence, and then the evidence got destroyed. By accident? I think so, yeah. What would that charge have carried for a sentence in Texas?

Well, this was in Ohio. Okay. So this is before I moved back to Texas. Well, it would have been a felony. I would have been looking at, you know, at least, it would have been my first. I think maybe two or three years I probably would have had. Now, if it was in Texas, it would have been a lot stricter. Oh, yeah.

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I need somebody to understand me. And she just, like I said, she had a lot of responsibility. So I was mad at her. You know, I'm not even going to lie. Now I understand. I mean, like, and she's told me, you know, now that I'm older, she's like, you know, I had to go seek therapy. And I was on a lot of medication growing, like when you were growing up,

because, partly because of, you know, my dad. then moving, but then me, I added onto that stress for her. So I get it. I understand as a mom now, you know, she just, she just didn't know better. I think she did the best she could. Did you end up ever having a father figure again, like a stepdad or anyone in your life in that capacity? Yeah, so shortly after my dad died, she remarried. And I hated this guy, like the worst stepdad. He had been in and out of prison. And his kids, they were used to a different life than what we were used to. I mean, it was like they were already grown up.

And I was hanging out around them a lot. And that's kind of what got me into, well, that is what got me into drugs, smoking weed. And, like, how I got a hold of those pills at 12 was basically his kids. Like, so my step siblings. But, yeah, she did remarry, unfortunately. she's single now but do you think you get a lot of your traits from your mom I think so yeah

I got a lot of my dad in me too but I would say yeah I act like my mom is that for better or for worse you would say for better for better I mean like I said she's amazing she cares for so many people she's a very selfless person I love that about her

sometimes I wish that she did care more for herself and, like, put herself before other people. And I think I want that for me, too. But that's just the way we grew up is, like, you take care of your siblings. You take care of people around you that you love. What happens after the gun case gets dismissed? Yeah, so after the gun case, my mom, she's like, you just need to come back home.

So I took my kids. We came back home. I had a couple jobs waiting for me once I got back, started making money. And then just planted roots here. I mean, my kids don't even remember Ohio. All they remember is growing up here. So like I said, it was different. Again, it was a big change because where I live, it had changed so much from when I was younger.

I mean, just drastically. There were so many people and the city just got bigger. So I had to get used to being back home. But I was happy. Like, I love Texas. I love the weather, everything. So you ended up having a second. kid before you moved back to Texas?

Yes. With the same guy? Yes, so I have two boys. Okay. And did you guys end up getting married or taking it seriously? So he was in jail when we moved. And his mom was helping me out a lot. Me and her are really close.

And she, when I said that I was moving back to Texas, she's like, I'm coming with you. So we literally loaded up this van full of our stuff and came down here and that's all we had was what was in that van. So it was me, her, and then my two boys. And then my mom was able to get her a job. And she's just me and her are still really close. Actually, when I had to go do my 30 days, she lived with me and she was taking care of my kids while I was gone. How old are you when you moved back to Texas? So I think I was 21, 22.

Now when you move back, are you stable or are you staying out of trouble? What does that look like? Yeah, so I'm just trying to settle in, but I am stable. I don't know anybody. And that's where I got like on social media and I started posting and like doing the Facebook and all that and trying to just get to know people in my community. But yeah, I was staying out of trouble at first. And what happens? I think I make a lot of bad decisions when I get bored.

Like I think I just get bored of just like the same thing. And so I'm like, okay, I want to go out. And because I do just talk to so many people and I just believe the good in people so much, I think, I would, like I said, hang out with people that I had no business hanging out with. So, you know, ended up getting with a boyfriend and he drank a lot. And so then I started drinking and it was another toxic situation and ended up catching some dewees. You say the word some. Well, yeah, I got, so I had two.

Tell us about the first one. The first one I was leaving a bowling alley and I had gotten into an argument with my boyfriend. And so we were arguing. I still had the wristband on. So I was driving home and my registration was out. That's what it was. My registration was out. And so they pulled me over.

They seen the band on and knew that I had just left the bar. So did the field sobriety, did the whole thing. And then, yeah, I caught that one. My second one, I was with the guy and I was driving. and I had backed into a car and in the car was an off-duty detective. So he got out. Now, I didn't know it because he was just in a regular car,

regular clothes, everything. So I stopped him like, oh, my gosh. You know, I had just bumped him backing out. And he starts yelling, you bitch, like all these things. And I'm like, I just start freaking out. So I just took off. Well, he starts chasing me. And I'm like in this big Ford expedition and he's in this mini Cooper and he's chasing me.

Traffic is crazy where I'm from too. So like we're just swerving in and out of these lanes. I was just, I was really nervous. And the guy that was with me was really nervous too. He actually had to slow down and he jumps out of the car. So he's like, give me out of here. So he jumps out of the car. The guy's still chasing me.

And so he said he pulled a gun out on me actually. He says that. I don't remember that. You know, he says, like, he said, you know, I'm detective, whatever, and he said he pulled his gun out on me and this and that. But he didn't catch me. I just kept going, and then the real police came, like the sirens and everything. So, of course, I pull over.

I get bonded out the next day. I talked to my insurance company and a lawyer and everything, and they tell me that he was a detective. And I was just like, this is it. This is it. Like, they're going to bury me. But it was a serious situation. I had a whole ordeal where I had to do weekends in jail for that one because I didn't want to take the probation.

So then, well, actually, I had two charges. I had evading arrest in a motor vehicle, which is a felony in Texas. And then I had the DUI. So for the DUI, I did my weekends. And then I did take probation for the felony evading. How are they able to tell you're intoxicated? What do you mean the second time? Yeah.

For when you hit the cop. Oh, well, so I refused a breathalyzer. I refused everything. So six COs actually held me down and took blood once I got to the jail. So they took my blood and I was kind of acting crazy. So they threw me in one of those cells with like the soft walls. And so they did blood alcohol level. What was your level?

I actually don't remember. Was it bad? I mean, yeah, I think it was bad. I want to say it was like point two something. Or maybe. I don't know, actually. I have to go back and look. So was your sentence just weekends in jail?

Or did you have to do a... What did that look like? For the DUI, yeah. So they gave me the option of probation for that, and I just did the weekends in jail. For how long was that? It was a month. So, yeah, so it was a month that I did.

So I think it was four weekends. But it was three for one. So for misdemeanors, you could do three for ones. I don't know if you guys have that here in Connecticut. I don't know. Where one day counts as three. So I think it was like four weekends, yeah. But so they, you know, I came in on a Friday.

They were supposed to let me out on a Sunday. And that was the deal. And so I had everything arranged and set up for my kids. And I was like, okay, I'm just going to go do this and get it out of the way. Well, when Sunday came, they didn't let me out. And they were like, you know, they tried to say, I think, that I had like a capious warrant or something. Like I was supposed to go to court and I didn't, which I knew was bullshit.

So I was like, I'm not going back to my room. And that was a whole ordeal with the CEO. And that's when I realized, like, these CEOs do not care about you. You know, I'm used to the juvie CEOs, I guess, that kind of like are more motherly. But these CEOs don't give a damn. So when they didn't let me out on that Sunday, I just, I just refuse. to go to myself. And of course, I'm talking shit. I'm like, you guys don't know what you're talking about. The judge literally ordered me to get out and you guys are, you're still holding me

here. And the lady wasn't having it. She's like, oh, you don't want to go back to your room? So she calls whatever, code red or whatever. And this huge dude comes bolting through the door. He comes up to me and I'm standing up. He comes up behind me. Everybody else is locked down. Like, they're all in their rooms and me and the girl were kind of having a yelling match he wasn't playing he came up behind me and he just scoops my legs out from underneath me and i just face plant on the concrete so i broke my nose i mean he did me bad he did me dirty but he so he like restrained me and threw me and the shoe and the shoe is the solitary in it yes now you were saying they were rooms do you mean like a cell or was it just yeah no yeah a cell it was locked down but it was like the

the modern jails, I guess, like everything was pretty updated in that area that I was in. The shoe was like medieval. It was bad. I mean, it was like, it's an old jail, you know, before they did all the updates. So, but I was still confused. I'm like, what do you mean? Like, this doesn't make sense. Why aren't you guys letting me go home when I was ordered to go home on a Sunday?

And so randomly they released me at like three. A.m. No explanation, no anything. I go and get x-rays on my nose. I have to go and do all this stuff at the hospital, make sure I'm okay. I talk to my lawyer. And the explanation that he got from the chief or whatever is like there was a error in the system. She was supposed to get out, but there was an error in the system. So when you're doing weekends in jail, are you with the whole general population or is there a separate area for you? Yes. So you're just, yeah, you're with general population. How did the other inmates treat you that you're just kind of coming in for weekends only and then going back to your life? Well, I mean, they didn't really care. But after the, like, after the logdown and everything, oh, they looked at me like I was crazy. They're like, we can't believe you did that. Like, just like, you're only here for weekends. Like, what's going on?

Like, it shouldn't escalate it. So they're kind of looking at me like wild. I still have like people that were there. I still have some of them on social media and they're like that was the craziest day of my time in jail was like listening to your head hit the ground. Was it common for judges to sentence

defendants for say a case like years to just weekends? Yeah. Yeah. At that time especially because it was my first I believe. No, I'm sorry, it was my second. So yeah, it was pretty, and I had a good lawyer. Do you feel like it was more a privilege sentence compared to people that couldn't have maybe afford that attorney?

Yes. Yeah, it was a privilege. And he was a paid attorney or a public defender? Yeah, he was a paid attorney. That you were able to pay for or someone else paid for? Yeah, I paid for him. What were you doing for work at that time? I was, so I was working for my mom when I moved down here.

So she was, like I said, taking care of the mentally handicapped. There was a woman with schizophrenia that we used to go to her home and take her. take care of her. And then I got into like some credit repair too. So I was in sales. I was making good money. Okay. Tell us about these weekends in jail because you did get out and start sharing stories on social media about your jail experience. I went pretty viral. Yeah. So so actually the weekends in jail after that whole fiasco the first time, they were like literally booking me in and booking me out. That was it. Like I never had any problem with them. I think they knew that that I had a potential lawsuit. So they were real cool. So then they just in and out. So what actually took off and went viral

was like the recent thing. So the charge from two years ago that led me to my 30 days was, you know, from an accident involving injury. So all right. So we'll get there then. So you do the in and out of jail. Yeah. What happens after that? So everything was good, pretty normal. I'm still. in that relationship. I was in a long relationship and then we we kind of broke up one of our own ways and I ended up moving. So, you know, I moved. You know, we were settling down in this new area. And do you want to just talk about kind of what happened to lead up to the next jail sentence? Tell us everything, yeah. Okay, so I was actually going through a breakup and we had been together a long time. So I was dealing with it, I guess, in my ways, which, of course, so I was drinking. I was going

out and stuff. So I started dating this guy, and he was much older. And so, like, this time, I wasn't dating for love. I was like, he was much older. So he was, like, paying all my bills. This was, like, a sugar daddy situation. I was also studying for real estate. So I was in school. But he basically told me, like, if you, you know, settle down and, like, chase your dream. I'll give you $60,000 and you can like pay off all your debt and you know you know just take care of you and the kids and for your future or whatever so I was pumped I was like oh hell yeah and this was around Labor Day like so it was a holiday weekend I was like well I'm gonna go out and treat myself I don't usually go out so I was like I went out to the lake I had some food I was just sitting there chilling this girl comes in and she's with these two guys and I recognized her from I think snap chat. So I went up and talked to her and stuff. And then the guy she was with, I recognized him, too. He had been trying to, like, hang out with me for a long time. So he buys me a drink at the bar. He was already, you know, wasted. He actually came in with a drink hiding inside of a chip bag. Like, he was

just out of there already. But I was like, you know, I'm going to have some fun, whatever. We're by the lake. Let's have a good time. So I'll let him buy me a couple drinks. And then so the other guy and the girl that he came with, they were ready to leave. And he was like, well, can you just, can you take me home? The guy? And I was like, you know, I had been there for like three hours. I had three drinks. I thought I was good, you know.

I still think that I was, you know, good to drive. But so he fries with me. I'm like, I'm not going to go to your house, but I'll take you to your vehicle. So he's like, okay, yeah, just take me to my car. I'm like, where is your car at? So I'm taking directions from him and he takes me to a storage building. And I'm like, like, where's your car? I was kind of, you know, I was freaked out.

So I guess he had his bike, like motorcycle in the storage building. So anyways, he gets his bike. I immediately, as soon as he leaves, like I already had a bad feeling. As soon as he gets out of the car, I call my girlfriend. So I've got her on the phone. I'm talking to her. I showed her, like, the road and him and everything. And I'm like, girl, I've just got a bad feeling about this.

She was like, you need to get away from that guy, just go home, whatever. So I'm talking to her, and then I come up to this four-way, and next thing I know, I just hear a booboo. And she was like, did you just hit a curb? I'm like, no, I think I just hit my date. And so I was just like, mind-blown. I was like, okay, so I pull over. I'm still on the phone with her, and I'm looking around.

I see his bike, and like the bottom half of my car is messed up. Just the bottom half. I'm looking for this guy. I'm like, I'm scared. I don't know where he's at. So I see him at the other side of the intersection. And he's, you know, getting attention. People are stopping it.

But then, like, all these cars just keep going by and they're hitting this bike. And I'm like, what do I do? What do I do? She's like, go home. So I got in my car and I just went home. And so the next day, well, it was like, I think I woke up at like 4 o'clock in the morning, feeling like shit. So I call the guy and I'm like, hey, what happened?

Like, you know, I seen you on your bike. He was kind of showing off. But, like, I was like, well, you know, what happened? Like, did you lose control? What? I was like, my car is messed up. You know, I hit your bike. And he was like, I have no idea.

He was like, I didn't even know that it was you that was like involved with this or whatever. I'm like, yeah. So, like, what do we do? You know, as far as like insurance goes or whatever, I was trying to take responsibility. I still don't know what happened that night. So in the police report, it says, you know, that basically the witness seen this white sedan hit him. And then all these cars hit his bike, of course. So, like I said, I still don't know exactly what.

There was unfortunately no cameras over there, too, which is crazy. Like, it's a main part of the town. So anyways, I ended up calling him making sure he was okay. I just had that on my conscience, of course. So he's like, I'm fine. You know what I mean? I'm on some medication, but I'm fine. Well, he calls me three days later, and he's like, you need to turn yourself in.

I'm like, turn myself in. What are you talking about? Well, they're looking for you and this and that. So he had hired Roberts and Roberts, like a law firm, and he was suing everybody. And for some reason he wanted to, like, press criminal charges against me. I don't know. I think somebody got in his ear, or maybe he had a gun. girlfriend or a baby mom or I don't know the situation but he completely acted like it was um

like a random person like this was he was just randomly driving and this just happened like I don't know he the way he staged it it was it was really fucked up actually because he like went on Facebook and he's like some drunk driver hit me and this and that and here he was the drunk driver you know I was driving him making sure he was supposed to get where he's going or whatever but um yeah after that I mean, I still have, like, social anxiety just going out after that or, like, being around certain people because, you know, people really don't have your best interests. It's all about them. But, yeah, so that happened. And I hired a lawyer, like, a really expensive lawyer. They didn't arrest me or anything. Of course, they're investigating or whatever. So, like, I think three months later, after I talk to my insurance company and told them what happened, that. This is a Bose moment. Your 10 boring blocks from home until the beat drops in Bose clarity.

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It was an accident involving injury, which is a felony. They're saying he got injured? Yeah. So what are they saying that you? you hit him off his bike? Yeah, that's what they're saying. They're saying I was the first person to hit him off his bike. But when you got out of the car and everything, he wasn't there.

Yeah, no, he was like on the other side of the intersection. Yeah, but his bike was there, you know. So he was actually driving the bike when you hit him? Yeah. How badly did he get hurt? Well, not that badly because he was like chasing my brother around town with a gun, like the next day. Well, no, it was like three days. later. He was trying to find out where I lived. He was calling around and all these people trying

to get some information. And my brother was driving my car that day and he's like, it has a gun and pulled up on him. But I don't think he was hurt that bad. He like put a neck brace on and stuff like that for pictures and stuff. But I mean, he did have some road rash on him. Yeah, so it sounds like someone just got a hold of him and he was trying to milk it. That's exactly what happened. So he ended up suing the marina. I don't know if he had, actually won that lawsuit. He did try to sue me too, but the judge didn't allow it. I mean, I'm sure he got something from the marina. I don't know. But it's like, it's funny because he actually had, did time too for robbing people after the bar. So he was in jail for a long time for

leaving the bar like and robbing people. So he's not the best type of person. No. And I found all of that out after, you know, of course, when I was like, what is this guy's issue? I start looking up everything. So they hit you with this felony now? Yeah. And they arrest you. Yes. Do you get bonded out for it? Yes. So I had bond money ready. So I made sure that everything was, of course, taken care of. So I did have that privilege. And I'm very lucky with each time that I spent in jail, I was prepared as anybody could be prepared, I guess, as far as, you know, making sure my kids are taken care of. Financially, bills are paid.

You know, no one had to carry my burden. And that was my main thing. Like, I don't want anybody to have to bond me out. I don't want anybody to have to pay my bills while I'm gone. Like, so I didn't want to be a burden. So I did have that privilege of, like, setting everything up before I was able, you know, before I had to go. And how old are you at this point? When this happened, this was two years ago.

Two years ago. So I was 30. Okay. So what's the outcome of this case? So I ended up getting arrested, bonded out, hired my lawyer. You know, that goes on for, I think, a year before we actually went to trial. And then they offered me because of my priors, and that's what really looked bad. And, like, I knew that going to trial wasn't going to be a good idea just because, like I said, my priors.

And then just, I don't want to gamble it. You know, I've got two kids, and I am doing this all by myself. So I'm like, I can't gamble it with a jury. So I did take a plea agreement. So I've got the 30 days in jail and then eight years of probation. You're on eight years of probation? Eight years. I heard Texas probation is really tough too.

I mean, it is. Especially where I live at. I don't know. People say that there's like a low percentage of people that actually complete it. Now, I did two years of probation already before. So basically probation in Texas, it's very expensive. You got to call every day to get like your random UA. So that's just a part of, it's like I'm trained to do that every day,

is to just call to see if my color is being called. And then I have a breathalyzer. So the breathalyzer is going to be in my car for eight years. Now the breathalyzer is from this case or from the previous case? From this case. But they couldn't prove that you were drinking. Right. But so they basically, my sentence, it's like they sentenced to me for my third DUI, but they masked it under a different, you know what I mean? They had an accident involving injury, but they're sentencing me like it's a DUI. Now, if they could actually prove it was a DUI, would you have gotten more prison time? Because it was your third offense?

Um, I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. And that's something that I was really scared of. I mean, and that's what my fear was initially. excuse me so they seen the receipts like from the marina when they did the investigation i had three drinks and they seen his receipt of course and it was a lot longer than mine but um yeah if they if i would have stayed there i think that i would have gotten to a lot more trouble so tell us about these 30 days in okay 30 days man you know not a lot of people get to prepare for jail. Usually jail is something that just kind of happens. But I was able to prepare. So, you know, I'm thankful for that. So leading up to it, I had a year. The judge says, okay, you can serve 30 days, but, you know, and we'll give you a year because I did have a lot

of responsibilities, you know, being a single mom and I was also taking care of my kids' grandma, but she was disabled at the time. She couldn't even walk. So that was really scary. It's like, who's going to take care of her? And then, you know, more importantly, who's going to take care of my kids. So the judge gave me a year. I get all my ducks in a row. I think I started isolating myself from everyone. And like I said, that social anxiety got real. So I went from being able to talk to anybody, love going out, love, you know, being social to like, I'm just in the house all the time because you never know what's going to happen, you know. So, and that's where I started TikToking and talking to the internet about all my drama.

Before you even went to serve the sentence. Yes, before I went to the county. I knew it was coming up and I kind of wanted an outlet. Like, you know, I want to talk to somebody, but nobody I, like none of my friends or family really knew or could relate to what was going on. So I kind of built that community of people that either someone they love has been to jail or they've been. And I'm really thankful for my community. Like, TikTok's awesome. How did the community respond to you?

I mean, I got both sides. So I've got, like, hate. I think the people that hate on my content are, like, all in the comments, like, who does this girl think she is? Like, oh, this is privileged. Like, you could just tell that she has a sheltered and privileged life. And it's like, no, that's not true in the slightest. But then I've got the people that. that just see me and genuinely see me for who I am.

And they're like, you know, this is a lot. This is a lot. And so they understand. They sympathize with that. And they just, they see me taking responsibility, even though it was like snitching on myself. But they're like, hey, you know what I mean? Something shitty happened, but she's doing what she feels is right, which is owning up to everything and taking responsibility for my part in this situation.

So. So if you never called that guy. everything would have been fine. Everything would be normal, yeah. There was no other evidence, like cameras. No, nothing. Nothing. And even the witnesses in the report don't describe my vehicle as the one that hit him.

So I snitched on myself, I literally. But I think it was just that it was eating at me. Like I couldn't even sleep. I woke up and I'm like, I got to know he's okay. You know, I got to know what happened. Do you even think you hit him, though, to this day? Honestly, no. Because the way you're describing the story sounds like the bike was already on the ground, you hit the bike. Yeah, even from the damage from my vehicle, it looks like

I just hit something that was already on the road. Do you know what I mean? So I honestly don't think so. And I don't believe that it was because I was drunk. I was on the phone. And that was a big thing, too. Like, yes, I had had, you know, drinks while I was eating at the marina. But I think being distracted talking to her and that was a big part of it. So tell us about the actual experience in jail. The jail experience. These are the stories that you told online that went pretty viral. Yeah.

So I made the series of like, hey, get ready with me to go to jail. And everybody's tuned in, of course. And it was around Easter time. I think me and you were locked up about the same time. Yep, I spent my Easter in jail too. Yeah. In Mr. Beast's jail, but it was jail nonetheless. Yeah, so I went right after Easter.

So I was able to spend Easter with my kids. And there's never like a good time to go to jail. I was given a year and I just could not choose. Like, okay, well, I don't want to get locked up on holidays. But I mean, you're going to miss out either way. So I just, I went right after Easter. I think August would be a good month. Think so?

Yeah. But I guess you have kids and they're ready to go back to school. Back to school. So maybe like mid-July to mid-August because what holidays are you missing? Yeah. Or like February. Yeah, so I went April to May. So I got out in the, like, right when summer was starting.

Okay. So, yeah, so I make the series. And then the day that I was supposed to turn myself in, I'm like, crap, I made all these arrangements. And I, you know, thought of everything except for how I'm going to get to jail. Do you know what I mean? Like, I can't drive my car up there. I can get an Uber. but, you know, where's the fun in that?

So I called the jail and I'm like, hey, if you want me, come get me. I know, I got to come do my time. And I think initially the dispatcher when I made the call to like, hey, you know, I got to do 30 days. I think she thought I had a warrant or something. And she was kind of confused on, you know what, but she was real helpful. And we love Teresa or Tracy. I forget her name, but like, we love her. She, you know, she tried to help me.

I ended up, I did end up getting an Uber to jail. Uber to jail. At Uber to jail. They wouldn't take me. The sergeant wouldn't take me. I guess she was like, it's too late. Come back tomorrow. So I'm like, are you sure?

Like, I don't want to have a warrant. So then they didn't take me that night. The next day I went and turned myself in. It was a weekend. Which if you know, you know, that's the worst time to go in. Why is it the worst time? Well, there's no sergeant there. on the weekends and they call the shots they sign everything um so i go to jail uh booking is terrible

oh my gosh just the whole situation and it's like you know it's going to happen but like like i said you could never really prepare mentally for that and it's always different i think each time i've gone has been different so got to jail very quickly realized people knew who i was was in jail. The CEOs knew who I was, like they were tuning in. And I never thought about that when I was making my videos. I didn't think that, you know, six million people were going to see it. I didn't think people, I thought it would just be my community that I already had on TikTok. So get to jail. And now this time was different. So they have like this therapist come talk to me. And she's like, you know, you know, they put you on suicide watch. I'm like, no.

there's this list of questions they ask you when you first go into county like you know of course do you feel safe or do you feel like you're going to harm yourself whatever depending on that they house you depending on that okay well i'm fine i know like i've already got everything's good i'm not worried about anything on the outs i just got to do my 30 days you know whatever so when she tells me they're putting me on suicide watch i'm like what did i say like did i say something wrong well they wouldn't give me an explanation um so but they housed me with the other the women that were on suicide watch and I don't know how they do it with the males but females they take everything from you so you have no clothes nothing you have this vest the

green turtle suit and I didn't really know or understand what they were saying they cleared me so the lady cleared me when I first came in to get off but because it was the weekend there's no sergeant and he has to make you know he has to write the paper to to get you in general population. So I still had no explanation of like, why, why? But they take me down to the old jail, which was right by the shoe. And I just, I'm not comprehending what's going on, but I got my little mat and I got my stuff. And I'm like, okay, it kind of sucked at first because, like, you know, when I was getting ready for jail, I went out and I got all of these whites.

You know, I got my whole outfit. I'm good. I've got the thermals, everything. And I posted that, you know, that I was prepared. And they took all that when I got there. So it was like, I had nothing. I didn't even have, they wouldn't let me have my money on my books. You know, you don't get to have any books while you're in suicide.

So that part, the first three days, I guess the first three days are always the worst. But like, it was hell. It was hell. So they take me down to the dungeon, that's what I'll call it. And it's very old time. Like old Western jail, everything's orange, like painted over with that old orange. It was gross. There was grime.

There was, like, three feet up the wall, gnats flying around. It was just, it was gross. So they opened the doors to let me in, the Sally Port. That's what they call it. and I'm like, what are we doing here? I'm thinking we're going to pick somebody up and maybe keep going to where we're going. No, they're like, this is where you're going to be at. And the room or the hallway is just like so narrow, big enough to fit one of those tables,

like those round tables that you have in jail, but that was it. And the other women there, I remember going in, as soon as they opened it and they were like, this is where you're going to be at, my jaw dropped. I'm like, there's no way. Everybody, you know, of course, no one has underwear. No one has brawl, nothing. Like, they're all in this suit. As soon as you walk in, it just stinks so bad.

You gotta think they're like free bleeding. Do you know what I mean? Like, that's fucking sick. So as soon as I go in, the first thing I hear is like the CO and this chick arguing about tampons. She's like, I'm not giving you no more tampons. you know, whatever, and this lady, the lady is like standing up for herself, and I'm like, they're going at it. And that was a big, that was a big argument that everyone had the whole time we were there.

It's like, we didn't get enough tampons. We didn't get enough toilet paper. So that was the first night. And then I remember the first, actually the first night, I got woke up. Because I'm on suicide watch, they, um, They come in every 10 minutes. So you just hear that Sally Port open up every 10 minutes. The lights are constantly on.

You don't get a blanket. You don't get anything. Like, I mean, it's hell, literally. And the women that I'm in there with, they come from a very different life. You know what I mean? Like, they're struggling, like, they're homeless. You know, they're addicts. They suffer with mental illnesses.

They're hearing voices. So it was literally like I was in a mental institution. you know and i was just waiting a good i was like just take me to the towers which is the general population there i was like i don't know why i'm here so that night one of the ceos comes in and she's like uh where's my ticot star at and i could just hear and mind you we're all sleeping this is like i think two or three o'clock in the morning hey where's my ticot star at and i didn't think anybody knew who i was you know what i mean and and she's like are you the girl on ticot she's like you're like, oh yeah, I watched all your videos.

And she's saying it loud enough for the other women to hear it. Do you know what I mean? And kind of in a mocking way, not in a like supportive or whatever like way. She's like, you know your video is going crazy right now. I'm like, no, because at this point I hadn't talked to anybody, so I didn't know. So that was the first night. Finally, so I got a hold of my mom. I'm like, mom, what's going on?

Like, why am I on suicide watch? And that's when she tells me, you know, your video gained a lot of traction. Like, you know, she's telling me how the numbers and everything like that. And I was like, I don't care. I need you to get a hold of the sergeant. I need you to tell, like, get an explanation on why I'm here. Because, I mean, at this point, it's driving me crazy. Because you got people just constantly talking to themselves, yelling at themselves, you know.

I just need, like, quiet and I need my things. So she doesn't get an explanation from the sergeant either. At first they tell her, well, the first, they were like, oh, when she was here before she was on suicide watch. And we're like, no, try again. That's not right. And they were like, oh, well, then she answered a question wrong or something. And they really just had no explanation. I now am convinced 100%.

It was because of my videos. And I guess they looked at it like audacity, like the audacity of this chick to make this and act like, you know, It's not a big deal. So I was like my punishment. But I finally do get moved. They did not move me back in a general population, though. They moved me to this, they call it the turtle pond. Do you know what that is?

No. So it's like this big, there's no cells, no doors or anything. There's 16 beds, and it's just a big room. But they moved me. in there. It's still a disciplinary hall, which I was confused about, but whatever. So it was like me and 16 other girls, well, 15, yeah. And that's where I spent the majority of my 30 days. And the type of people that were there in there, like, mind you, I'm there doing a 30-day sentence. And I'm locked up with two women that have committed murder.

or allegedly committed murders. A crazy chick from Wisconsin who had a shootout with the whole task force or whatever. I got really close, actually, one of my bunkies. She was an ex-teacher. I think she taught eighth grade English. She was in there for selling drugs. A lot of girls are waiting to go to the feds,

a lot of drug-related charges. But I just didn't know I was in there. Like, what's going on? why won't you send me to general population? But I actually ended up liking it there, liking it better there. Once I got past the sleep deprivation, because there is no sleeping at all. Like, the mats, but also, like, no one shuts up. No one is quiet.

And I think that was my biggest issue. I've actually almost gotten to, like, three fights because of that. Yeah, tell us. just not them just not being quiet so like the teacher that i told you about when she first came in the middle of the night and um this was still when we were in the cells so before we got to the turtle pond we're in the cells she comes in at like two o'clock and she's talking because i guess everybody knows everybody in county you either know them from the outs like y'all hang around the same block or area or you're just always coming in and out of jail i'm out of that loop but like she comes in she's talking

ready that she knows and I'm like it's 2 o'clock in the morning like shut the fuck up so we can go to sleep you know what I mean and so she starts hollering at me I start hollering back and I'm like listen there's no cameras in here we can you can come to myself you want to because at this point it's like when do y'all sleep like are you not getting sleep and we we made these little like um what they call me uh earplugs it was like plastic with tissue in it and we're like shoving it in our ears So, so yeah, so that was like a big, that's that and then like the deadbeat mothers that were in there, those are my two biggest, the two big things that I thought I was going to have to stay longer for. It's like I was going crazy just being around people that were crazy, but then also not sleeping. And then there were a lot of women, I think most women that are locked up are locked up because,

a man they fell in love with had them do some stupid shit. And that was sad to see, but also, you know, they chose those men over their children. And then they want to go to jail and talk about how much they miss their kids. And it's like, bitch, you're not even a mom on the outs when you're free. Like, but now you miss your kids. I think those two things were my biggest, like, um, icks. I don't know about the, about the women in this. there. But I mean, I did make some relationships with some girls in there. And I really seen

kind of how they live. And like I said, a lot of them are homeless or they're addicted to drugs and stuff like that. So I felt for those girls. Do you think they genuinely love their kids or it's too far past that point? I think they, I think they love their kids. A lot of those women and don't know what love is. Like I said, they're in there because usually a man has talked them into either moving the drugs for them or taking the charge for them

or, you know, they're in there because they won't tell on the man that they love or whatever. So it's like they chose that man over being with their kids. And I think that kind of set me off because it's like, you know what I'm saying? You're selfish.

And look where it landed you. Did you feel like a dead beat mom being in there while your kids were? Did I feel like a deadbeat mom? Yeah. I had guilt. I had mom guilt, definitely. But when I was in there, no.

Actually, I was like, thought I was a better mom. I was like, damn, you know what I mean? My kids really do have it good. Did seeing these women that you were just describing give you perspective on the men you chose in your life? Yeah, definitely. Definitely. I was just like, I couldn't believe. I'm like, wow.

I've seen it from a different perspective. I'm like, we've got to leave these losers alone. Seriously. A lot of losers out there. Yeah, I mean, because all it takes is one situation, one instance, and everything can change for you. You know, you're with the wrong person. Something pops off. And next thing you know, you wake up in a cell and you're looking at life.

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Now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus. Oh, the wrong person could really screw up your life. Exactly. And we see that all the time. Now, share with us the basket. Yeah, so I brought you something. You know, I'm from the South, so I had to bring you something. I couldn't show up empty-handed.

So these are actual items from my commissary. So my community was so awesome. Actually, when I got there, you know, they just flooded me with, money, commissary, letters. I still have a stack of letters. And so they actually, I was going to give these away. Usually that's what people do.

You know, you give it to your bunky or you give it to your friend or whatever that you make while you're in jail. But they separated me from everybody towards the end of my sentence. So I wasn't able to give this. And I was like, you know what? Who better to give this to than Ian Bick, right? So I brought you a hot pot.

And this was like a hot come up. in there. Like if you had the hot pot, you kind of like, you know, you had some say in the pod. I got your little indigent bag. And then, I don't know if you have one of these, but it's the radio. That's the actual jail radio. I have a knockoff one that we, I couldn't find the clear one, but that's one of the ones we used to have in the feds. Is it? Yeah. They're so expensive, right? All of this stuff is very expensive. Yeah, why don't you tell us about each item, including like the little indigent pack and everything? Okay. So actually, I traded, I traded some ramen noodles for this because I had never had one or whatever and I was like I wanted to see and to me I was like okay

I wanted to bring some souvenirs I know that's crazy but honestly when I look at this stuff in my house it just reminds me of just to be thankful like holy shit you know that was real because it was such a surreal moment so like seeing these items just like damn you know I get to I get to live in my nice home with my nice dishes and then this is just a reminder of that but and I hear that a lot of girls love this soap like it dries your skin out so good like if you got oily oily skin but all that soap and deodorant sucks i'd use that for a hundred days with uh with mr beast did you yeah he had us using the baby tooth brush the toothpaste yeah that's in here yeah oh the toothpaste is the worst terrible yeah this is my stanley i think i'm gonna keep this though i'm already getting gifts left

this is oh we didn't have those cups in there so yeah this is the tumbler this is my my jailhouse stanley um i got the swab deodorant thing on it because every Everybody had one, so you had to put something on it to let other people know, hey, that one's mine. So this straw is actually two pins, like the casings of the pins. I stuck it together and made me a little straw. And this is where I drink my water and juice and all that from. What's the hot pot thing you were telling about? But yeah, so this is the hot pot.

This is how you make your coffee, your ramen noodles. This is your microwave. Is this what it looked like in the feds? We didn't have a hot pot. We had microwaves. Oh, fancy. Oh, so that would just go on. They had stoves there for you, or is that electric?

No, stoves. Yeah, this is electric. You just plug it in. And how much would that go for on commissary? This, I want to say it was like 50 bucks. I want to say it was like 50 bucks. And that basket you have everything in was what you would bring to commissary? So not the basket.

The basket's from the world, but everything else is from jail. So this is the commissary bag, yeah. Okay. This is the bag, and all of it is pre-used, except for, of course, the indigent. But I got you a spork in there. You got the whole, like, Martha Stewart's set. And that's what you had to use for 30 days? That's what I had to use for 30 days, yeah.

What do you think was the craziest thing you witnessed in jail? The craziest thing I witnessed in jail? Let me think. I mean, there was every day. was crazy. Probably the craziest thing. There was a chick named Debo, and she was huge. I don't know why, but she had a hard time, like, holding her bladder, so she would literally

just be walking and piss everywhere. So it was like, just piss, just pissed, just seeing a chick just pit. And sometimes she just squat and pee in the middle of the room. I think that was pretty crazy. I've seen some fights all. almost pop off. I did try to, you know, play peacemaker. So there was like me and another chick that were, you know, like the mothers of the group and would try to, of course, maintain the peace because nobody wants to get sprayed. Nobody wants that. There was, so they ended up breaking us up

towards the end of my stay. I had like two days left and they actually did put me in general population after I had already been there for so long, but somebody stole some peanut butter. And this girl went crazy nuts looking for this peanut butter. So we're doing shakedowns. And that's another thing. Like the pod that I was in, they let you pretty much govern yourself. Like there's nobody like sitting in the room the whole time. Yeah, they have the cameras and surveillance going.

But we pretty much ran our own shit. sometimes I think the CEOs would mess with us and they would send people in there that they knew would like clash with other people because like I said there's no rooms like everything is out in the open but yeah the second I think the first craziest thing would be definitely watching someone just urinate wherever at all times of the day but then the second was probably that peanut butter situation and then we almost did get sprayed actually So I had the girls like tie their hair around their face because we were getting ready to end. Then we headed to the bathrooms because this peanut butter situation just got out of control. But they ended up finding the peanut butter.

And then like I said, they shipped this. They separated all of us. They sent me to general population, which was like the fucking Hilton's after being in the dungeon. So I went from like flying gnats around every drain. and the grime and just disgust of that old jail and then going back into general population. But I was over it at that point. I'm like, I have two days left. Like, I'm over it.

Now, you were saying that the food was better in juvenile detention than regular jail. Oh, but far. What was the difference, a major difference? I think county where I live, everything is just mush. Like, it's really just different flavored mush. Whereas juvie is more like the chicken nuggets or the tacos, casidias, like, I don't know, more food that you would actually eat on the ounce. I wouldn't even buy mush, like mashed potatoes or... Like that goulash, like the soupy pasta or whatever.

That's all they were giving you every day. Pretty much. I think we did have like a chicken patty. It was the same thing every week. though. So you had the same thing every Monday's, Tuesdays was the same thing. But it was just a different variation of the same thing, I guess. How to feel to get out? Oh my God. Well, I was just honestly, I just wanted to be with my kids. That's it. Like, I just wanted to be home with my kids. I didn't want to go out and do anything. Like, I think I stayed in my house for the whole month after I got out.

It's like I door dashed everything, Uber Eats, whatever. Like, I don't want to leave. It felt amazing. I definitely had to get used to a lot of things being different. You know, I was gone for 30 days. But I think because so many people did see me at such a vulnerable time and sharing what I was going through, I just, I felt like more seen. Whereas I'm just a homebody. But now I go to the Walmart and like they know who I am. Like, oh my gosh, she's the girl from that one video. And it's kind of weird. You know what I mean? I'm sure you get that a lot.

Yeah, it's it. I'll get recognized in the most random places ever. Random. Where did your kids think you were? So my kids knew. So I'm very transparent with my kids. So they're 12 and 14. I was able to talk to them and I'll let them know, hey, when things are going to happen,

when you get older, you're going to make mistakes. And there's going to be things that you're not proud of. But you take ownership of it. you take responsibility and you do what you have to do. Are you worried about them getting picked on at school? No, so they did just start school and my oldest, he said a girl came up to him

and was like, hey, is your mom Amber, Texas? And he was like, yeah, why? And she was like, that's so cool. And I'm like, what is an eighth grader doing watching my videos? But no, I don't think, I think, well, they don't like me being on TikTok. they're like it's so cringy mom like your millennial humor and like they're on a different side

of TikTok obviously but um but no they're proud of me actually i think and it's so crazy to say because it's like you know i got in trouble but the way that i handled it is is of course why i think my videos were successful but then also it was such a teachable moment for them and i'm glad that i was transparent and real with them. It was hopefully something that they learned from that they don't have to learn the hard way, that they've seen an example of like, hey, there are going to be times where, you know, I'm in trouble or I make a mistake, but I got to keep my head up and power through. Do you think this was a good wake-up call for you?

Oh, definitely. Definitely. And there's so much to be thankful for all here. And that was the biggest takeaway, I think, is like, just, being grateful and having that gratitude because, you know, when you get used to life, you just get used to life being, and it just, you know, gets dull after a minute, I think, and like mundane doing the same thing. But then you go in a situation like that, even with Mr. obese, like when you were put in that, you know, situation, when you came home, you were much more

grateful, right? Yeah, definitely. I had that time to reflect. Yeah. How do you make sure you won't put yourself in a position like you've been in multiple times in the past again? So like I said, I have a lot of anxiety for that because it's not something that I plan to do. It wasn't like I was doing this every day or like living a life of crime. It's something that just happened. So, you know, accidents do happen. So I have to tell myself that. Otherwise, I'll just be stuck in the house, not wanting to do anything or hang out with anybody.

But, I mean, I got to make sure that alcohol isn't involved. And if it is, then I need to know that, you know, it's somebody that I can trust, especially if they're driving or, I'm just in that situation. I just have to be with people that I trust. And that's hard to find, though. Do you know what I mean? So because I am a mom, I'm very busy with their activities, thankfully. I don't know what I'm going to do when they turn 18.

Because, you know, right now it's easy to stay out of trouble when, you know, you get up at 5 a.m., you take your kids to their sports practice, you're going to the games, you know, regular mom life. But when I want to have fun or get away, I don't know. I haven't gotten over that yet. So it's only been a few months since I've been released. And I think that's something I'm going to have to work through. It's like that social anxiety and hanging out and stuff. How does it feel having that probation hanging over you for the amount of time that you will have for?

Oh, my gosh. So there's so many hoops to jump through. You know, I can never relax. It's always in my head is like, okay, did I make sure that I called? Did I make sure that I, you know, I got to get community service hours done. I got to go calibrate my breathalyzer and, you know, all these things. It's, it's, there's no peace, I guess. I can't wait to be off of it.

And the good thing is, so my lawyer did get me probation in lieu of conviction. So upon completion of my probation, you know, it won't be on my record. So I won't have a felony on my record. And I'll be good. And that's the biggest reason, too, that I accepted it. because, like, yeah, I can do this, no problem, eight years. Hopefully I get off half time, but we'll see. Where do you see yourself five years from now?

Five years from now, wow. So, you know, my kids will be all grown up. Hopefully I'll be helping them pick out colleges. I still am studying for my real estate exam. So that would be something that I want to get into is real estate. Of course, I want to continue with social media and doing content. So I'm curious to see where that takes me as I, I guess kind of figure that out.

But yeah, hopefully I'm helping my kids pick out their first apartment maybe and doing all that. What's one thing you're doing different as a parent that your parents didn't do for you? Oh, I'm there. I'm always there. I am always, I'm so involved in everything. I mean, my kids can't do anything without me knowing about it. And I do have that safe space with them. Like they know they can come talk to me.

You know, it doesn't matter what it is. They can come talk to me. So they always have me. And where my mom I don't think had that ability or that luxury, I guess, of, I mean, I guess because there were so many of us. But definitely, I'm always there for my kids. Awesome. Well, Amber, thanks so much for coming out on the show today. Thank you for having me.

This has been such a good experience. I think it's awesome what you do, Ian, giving people the opportunity. opportunity to talk about some of these things and some of these things I've never talked about before. So it's helping me a lot too. And you just keep helping people and letting them express what they've been through. That's awesome. Thank you. I think you were nervous. Not as bad as you expected. I know. It wasn't so bad. Yeah. Maddie Ice does a good job making people feel comfortable. I love Matt. He's good. You've got a good team. Yeah, he's a good dude. Well, thanks again. Safe Travel's back. Yes.