Locked In with Ian Bick - I Was a Florida Cop for 5 Years — Here's the Real Reason I Quit

Episode Date: July 7, 2026

Christie Hagan grew up on a military base in a strict family — and the rebellion that followed eventually led her down the wrong path before she turned everything around in her late teens and decided she wanted to help people. She became a hospital tech. Then a cop in Florida. For five years Christie worked as a female police officer in Florida — one of the most challenging environments for a young woman in law enforcement. She shares what it was really like as a rookie female cop in her early twenties the way colleagues and superiors treated her the hardest calls she ever responded to her own experience with domestic violence and what dating inside the department really looks like. And then she made a decision that nobody expected. She quit after five years to pursue content creation full time — with her husband who was also a cop she met on the job. They built a platform together that generated hundreds of thousands of dollars and she never looked back. _____________________________________________ #florida #cops #model #police _____________________________________________ Connect with Christie Hagan: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/christieleighhq/ Website: https://www.christieleighofficial.com/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/christieleighofficial?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=d565d0ec-92c0-4d6b-bbbd-08f0030f5057 _____________________________________________ Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ _____________________________________________ Timestamps: 00:00 Female Police Officer Who Left the Badge for Content Creation — Christie's Full Story 00:43 Growing Up Between City and Country and the Environment That Shaped Everything 01:59 Her Strict Upbringing and the Family Dynamics That Defined Her Early Years 03:13 Teen Rebellion and the Family Struggles That Followed 05:07 Finding Direction After Her Toughest Teen Years 06:16 Working as a Hospital Tech and What That World Really Looked Like 08:11 How Her Medical Experience Prepared Her for Law Enforcement 09:28 Leaving a Troubled Crowd and What That Decision Really Required 10:42 The Perspective Shift That Led Her Toward Police Work 11:32 Improving Her Family Relationships and What That Process Looked Like 12:56 Her Transition Into Police Work and What Those First Days Required 14:03 Her Experience With Domestic Violence and What That Work Really Involved 16:35 Helping Others Through Similar Situations and What That Mission Meant 18:35 Becoming a Young Police Officer and What That World Really Looked Like 21:23 Training Hiring and the Prejudice She Experienced in Policing 25:49 Handling Low Pay and What Law Enforcement Benefits Really Look Like 29:30 Navigating the Toxic Work Environments That Define Too Many Departments 33:44 The Specific Challenges of Being a Female Officer Nobody Talks About 37:33 Her Early Job Challenges and the Harassment That Followed 44:17 Dating Relationships and the Department Drama That Came With Them 52:17 Responding to Dangerous Calls Without Backup and What That Really Felt Like 54:41 The Hardest and Most Emotional Calls That Still Stay With Her Today 57:31 Hard Arrests and What Officer Discretion Really Looks Like From the Inside 01:02:28 Meeting Her Husband and What Workplace Relationships in Law Enforcement Look Like 01:07:07 Leaving Policing for Content Creation and What That Decision Really Required 01:12:40 Reflecting on OnlyFans Her Regrets and the Advice She Wants Everyone to Hear 01:18:16 Her Transition Into Music and Social Media and What That Journey Required 01:22:01 Her Advice to Her Younger Self and Her Final Thoughts on Everything She Survived _____________________________________________ To advertise on the show, contact [e-mail] or visit https://advertising.libsyn.com/LockedInWithIanBicka Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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She ended up turning her life around and became a hospital tech, then became a cop in Florida. She spent five years on the job as a young female officer dealing with the hardest calls, the worst colleagues, and her own experience with domestic violence. She would end up meeting her husband, who was also a cop on the job, and just after five years, on the job, she quit to build. the content creation platform with him that generated hundreds of thousands of dollars. Her name is Christy Hagen and this is her story. I grew up in Jacksonville, Florida. So I was born in North Carolina on base. I was a military brat.

But I mainly was raised in Jacksonville, Florida. I don't know what y'all know about Duval, but it's so crazy. Is that like country? No, you said it in like a country kind of a twin. Okay, so I'm a weird, confusing person. So half of my family that was raised by is from New York. And then the other half is from Alabama. So I have this weird mix of like city and country.

And then I was mainly raised in the city. But then we mainly did stuff in the country for fun. So it's a weird mix of city and country. That's why I have a little bit of a twain, you know. Who is in the military, your mother or your father or both? My father. My father, yeah. What do you do in the military?

Great question. Honestly, great question. And so I was mainly raised with my stepfather. My bio dad, we're close now, very close now. After like 21 and up, we got close. But I wasn't really close with him. Growing up, we had our differences. So I'm really not even going to lie.

I don't know too much about what he did. Didn't care back then to know too much about what he was doing. I kind of like resented the fact that he was always gone. Like, I didn't like that. I was a little bit of a broad, though. So mainly raised by my stepdad, which he was a law enforcement officer. That's kind of where I got interested in doing that and was used to that. So was it a strict upbringing because it was volunteer?

Yeah, yeah. So it was a very strict upbringing. So my dad was a Marine and then he ended up finishing his stuff in the Army. So he had switched. My stepfather was a police officer. So yeah, there really was not much room for error. So I think that kind of caused me to go a little buck wild. You know, at like 14, 15 years old, I started going a little buck wild because it was just such a strict environment that I think I just was trying to get that freedom, you know, and rebel and go crazy.

and I did, but it worked out. How was your relationship with your mom? So we were close for a very long time, but again, as a teenager once I started getting in that rebellious stage, shoot, we probably fought from 14 years old to about 19 in which she ended up passing away when I was 19. So it was a little bit of a hard hit because as I got older, as I had kids as well, I started, you know, learning things,

discovering things, and I was like, oh damn, I should have never done my mom like that, you know, because she was such a sweet person. She had a temperament, but she was a sweet person. She meant well. And it was half and half. It started out very, very good. It didn't end on the greatest note. So that's just the way life goes. Now, before your rebellious stage, you were just describing, how would you have described yourself as a young kid? As a young kid, I have always been hyper-independent, which is the way I was raised as well. So I was very, very independent, very headstrong, very resilient, anything that came our way, which I wouldn't say that my childhood was the easiest. We did move around. There was a lot of other factors in it that, you know, most children probably would have very early on reacted poorly. I think I had a little bit of a late reaction to it. So as a child, I was always more so, I wouldn't say reserved, but I was definitely out there. I would talk to people. I was, you know, outgoing, but I just was very cautious of people is how I would describe myself. So outgoing and

friendly, but cautious and very hyper-independent as a child. Do you think those exact traits would help you later on in the law enforcement field? I think it did help me a lot. So my expectations for people in general and life in general were very, very low, especially being raised in like Jacksonville, Florida. It's just a melting pot of just everyone and everything. And I just experienced and saw so many different things growing up that when it came to law enforcement, it's just, I kind of already had a sense of the world in a way. Although law enforcement

did end up teaching me a whole other side of the world, I think that it did help me, you know, being raised in that structure, being raised in that manner, being raised to be like hyper-independent and not dependent on anyone or not trust anyone. I think it did help me in a lot of scenarios, for sure. Do you remember when that idea to join law enforcement first popped in your head? Was that before the rebellious stage or after? After. Okay. So crazy enough, from 14 to, 15, I got in with a bad group. I started doing dumb stuff, skipping school, you name it, just everything you could do. I ran away consistently. Please knew me by my name. I was put in, like, the Youth Crisis Center, YCC, and Jacksonville for a while, a few months I think it ended up being.

And after that, I was like, okay, what am I going to do with my life? What do I want to do? What am I interested in? And that's when I was like, okay, you know, I'm pretty interested in criminal justice. Did I know where I wanted to go with that initially at 16 years old? No, but then I was like, you know what? I think I want to be a police officer. Fast forward. I end up getting into a domestic violent relationship, had my first kid, my senior year of high school, and that really opened my eyes up as well. All right, I'm graduating. I barely graduated, you know, I just had my first kid. You know, my mom died. I was like, this is, you know, crazy. What am I going to do? What do I want to go do in my life? I knew I wanted to go college, but for what I was like, you know, I've always said police officer, let's do that. I ended up working in the hospital for a little bit before I became a police officer, got my, you know, certification, things like that, and ended up getting into that because I think the domestic violence and a few other things within my childhood kind of opened my eyes up to things.

And I was like, I really do want to help people, really do want to make a difference. And I think that was about the only way I could figure out at that time on how to do that. What did you do at the hospital? I was a tech. So all the nasty work, you know, wow. I had been asking the nurses. I know we did do a lot. I did have to do a little bit extra because we were very, very short-staffed.

There was like a huge flu, like, epidemic. And the hospital I worked out was pretty bad, too. I'm not going to lie. They had a lot of medical malpractice cases, a lot of negligent people. It was a little crazy, too. I don't know why I keep picking establishments that aren't the greatest. But I ended up working as a tech. So I started in like ortho.

Then I went to Med Surge. Then I was in the ER and I floated around. Like sometimes I got sent to ICU. I just kind of floated around as PRN. So you kind of just worked wherever they shoved you. So it wasn't anything too, too exciting. But you did still get your hands pretty dirty and got involved with a lot of different things in that too. Do you think that helped prepare you to some of the things you might see as a police officer?

It gave me an advantage because a lot of people did not know. So as police officers, you get sent to medical calls too. and most likely you're going to be the first person there. And if you don't know how to handle it, you could kind of be the person's demise. You are the first point of contact. You're the first person helping it. If you don't know how to stop or help the situation

and you're just waiting for EMS, which a lot of police officers did, because they didn't know. They weren't medically trained. They've never been in the medical field or anything like that. So they're just standing there panicking, you know, like, what do I do? What do I do? And it's like, oh, my gosh.

So I think it did help me. a lot and I think I did help save a lot of lives honestly, which I got a lot of compliments. I got compliments from the hospitals, like, oh, who did that before we got here? And a lot of compliments from like EMS of, wow, thank you for doing that. Like, that was a great extra step like this is not. So I think it really did prepare me, you know, and gave me an advantage that other most officers don't have. You're not really, you're teach, or teach, she's illiterate, taught a very basic first aid kind of course as a cop. So it's really nothing extravagant honestly. How hard was it to remove yourself from that group of friends you were hanging out with

that was going down the wrong path with you? I'd say pretty hard. So I wasn't a child that was easily manipulated. I knew what I was doing. But I think that I was a child, especially with the issues with my father, I think I was a child that was just wanting attention. I also grew up with a sibling that was mentally ill that had major mental health issues. And a lot of the attention was derived to my sibling. So I think it was just more so a cry of attention. I also did have a couple traumatic things happened to me as a teenager that I literally had never even told my parents. Like, I think I just told my dad recently that these things happened. I had a couple of assaults, a couple crazy things happened to me. And I didn't know to talk to people about it. I didn't

want to talk to people about it, honestly. I think that kind of caused all that. So these people are almost like vampires, like energy vampires or bloodsuckers, once they see somebody who's been through certain things and they could latch onto them and bring them down with them too, they're going to. So I think it took me a good year or so to, you know, get out of that crowd and realize, you know, these people aren't doing anything for me. These people are ruining my life, these people. And, you know, I take accountability. I know I'm ruining my life. But it was pretty hard to separate yourself from people you thought were doing things for you and putting all these ideas in your head that they're there for you, they care. This is the best way of life. This is awesome. This is so

fun. And then waking up one day, realizing this is going to get me killed. I'm going to be in a ditch somewhere dead if I don't get my shit straight or I'm going to be in jail. This is crazy. I already had the teenage pregnancy part. It already happened. So it's like at this point, I'm going to end up with no future. And then one day I'm going to wake up in my 20s or 30s and be like, what the hell? This episode is brought to you by Accenture. When your advertising operations fall out of sync, everything else follows. Spotify and Accenture are working together to reinvent the rhythm of ad sales, using automation, analytics, and smarter workflows to simplify campaign delivery and access better data across the business. The result? Less time spent on operations, more time

connecting brands with the moments and fandoms that matter most. Learn more at Accenture.com slash Spotify. How did I do, you know? Did that give you a different perspective when you would encounter those types of people as a cop? I think I was a lot more open as a cop than most people. A lot of cops, no offense, have like a stick up their ass. A lot of them get power trips. I know there's a lot that do great, but there's a lot that don't. And I think being exposed to all those things gave me a little bit more humanity than most of my coworkers had, a little bit more understanding and a little bit more patience, too, to deal with people who are either in mental crisis or are down that road. I understand it's not the easiest, you know, drug addiction or, you know, things, people are not

completely designed to be like that. Something has happened to make that person rewired like that. There's a few people born on this earth messed up, very few and far. Majority of people, something has happened. So understanding that gives you a little bit of more humanity to deal with situations like that, which is not very common. Law enforcement, unfortunately, I wish it was, but it's not. So I think it really did help me open my eyes and be a little more understanding. A lot more people were willing to be calm and docile with me and deescalate more than my coworkers.

I didn't have to really pull out weapons often because I was able to verbally deescalate people and understand the other end and relate to people. So I think that really helped deescalate a lot of situations. Did your change in environment help improve your relationship with your parents as well? I believe a little bit, yeah. So I want to say with my biological father, that took him realizing certain things on his end when I was around 21. He needed to realize his faults, too, and things that were going on. So that didn't really happen right away. With my stepfather and my mother, yes. So I did notice that once I, they moved me from Jacksonville to a smaller town for a few years. It's called Palm Coast. I hate it. I don't like Palm Coast. Sorry, Palm Coast. I don't like

Palm Coast. Very small town vibes, which I like small town vibes, but not when it's, you know, toxic. That's just a toxic area. I think it did improve. I think we did more things together. We got along. It wasn't until my senior year that, again, I met somebody who kind of drug me into a bad path where I started going down it again. I think it did help a little bit. Why did you decide to transition from the hospital to becoming a police officer? I always wanted to become a police officer, you know, once I started thinking about this is what I want to do. But it was really hard at that time to do that.

I started going to school. I actually had to stop school because the domestic violence almost ruined my whole entire schooling. I had to leave and then come back because they're like, dude, this is like not going to work. so I think because I just had a kid my mom died and then a handful of my family died after that too I mean it was just one after another after medical things and weird incidents I just everyone was just dropping like flies around me and then just everything I was going through it just it wasn't working so I was like

I know I like medical stuff too let me go try this let me get into this this is still a stable job this is still something that's good for me it's still upbeat, you know, it's very quick, fast-paced work. So it's something that still caught my interest. But I knew at heart that I did want to become a law enforcement officer. It just wasn't the right time. How can I literally, how can I go be a police officer when I'm letting somebody literally whoop my ass at home and I'm not doing anything about it or they're getting charged and then I'm dropping charges? How does that make me look? How am I going to go tell another person, hey, don't do this, do this not. And then they find out, hey, dude, you just drop charges on this and you're not

even doing this and that and being protective at all these other things. So it just didn't make sense at the time. And that was the next best bet. Honestly. As someone with that personal experience, why do you think individuals do that? Domestic violence? Yeah, or drop the charges. Okay. So I don't want to speak on behalf of all victims, right? Because everybody's experience is different, but me through my journey, which crazy enough, I still don't, I'm so headstrong that I don't consider myself fully a victim. You know, there's a lot of things I feel like I could and couldn't have done, you know, and it is a lot harder to get out of it than people realize. So I don't want to, I know I'm a victim, but I also don't like making myself a victim.

I'm not the kind of person that wants to be victimized. I know I am legally, but is what it is. I just, like, I knew when I saw him, I could see a little boy that was scared. I could see a little boy that was hurting. And to this day, like, my husband gets so annoyed with me that I still have some sort of, you know, faith that things will get better for him. And I don't have any animosity towards him. I'm not mad. I'm not, like, I'm disappointed.

But I think people do it because they care. Like, although this person's hurting you and doing these things, I think there's some people on this planet that are major impasse that understand that this is a human that has been so effed up through things that they're just doing the stupidest things. Like, no, it's not acceptable. You shouldn't be doing it. You shouldn't be hurting people, man or woman. As a woman, you shouldn't be hurting a man. As a man, you shouldn't be hurting a woman. But I think dropping the charges was more so of a thing that I was like, I don't want his life ruined for the rest of his life.

What if there's a chance that he could change? What if there is a chance that this is just something he's going through in his life that he's just being stupid and doing that? You know, I think it just gets in your head. You just care about the person. And sitting back now, yes, I kind of do wish I would have went through with the charges because I think he needed that. Because to this day, he's still not the greatest with it.

Honestly, he's not. He's not doing great. So I think I should have stuck to it. And if anybody asked me, should I press try? I think he should. honestly as much as it hurts you don't want to hurt the person in the long run they need to learn they need to understand this is serious this is not a joke um i think they need that reality check so i think that's where people do that honestly and even domestic violence and self people who hurt other people are usually

people who are hurting that's just the basis of it they've been hurt and now they're taking it out on the next person especially men with women majority of it is they had problems with their mom like mommy issues or other things like that, you know, not a great womanly figure or other women have hurt them. And then it's, you know, from there. I don't know. Do you remember that first time you, you had to give someone that advice that went against what you own, what you yourself did as when you became a cop? Yeah. So she actually came back and thanked me like a year later. She's like, you saved my life. You saved my kids lives. She's like, I was at risk at like losing my kids because I wasn't doing anything. This is and that. And I had been there too. I've had DCF told me if you don't get

away from him, we're taking your kids because you're not being protective over that. You know, like, no, you cannot have, because we end up having two together. I had another one. I had one at 19, one at 21. So we had two together. And I just remember that. And I was like, just thinking back of, okay, come on. Like, you have got to give this person hope and give this person faith and make sure that

this person squared away. But even when I arrested the person, I wasn't rude to them. I wasn't mean to them. And we had a conversation too. and it's like, man, like, this is not it. Like, there are other ways to get your aggression out or your aggravation out or whatever you're trying to do out. Like, and I think it was productive on both ends from what I remember.

I'm pretty sure the first time I ever had to do that, it ended up being productive on both ends. I think he ended up going on his way and doing something else and she ended up getting a lot better getting housing. And she was like a whole different person when I saw her. I'd gained a little bit of good, like, healthy way too, you know? Like, that's from what I remember the first time. it was a little awkward internally because I was like, oh, God, I didn't do this.

You know, the first time, and it was like, it's just crazy in general, too, to know that you're taking someone to jail for that too. And then know that other person's feeling what you felt, too, of like regret of, oh, gosh, this sucks. You know, I care about this person, but this isn't right. And having that battle, it was a little awkward. But I think it ended up being productive for both the people and me. It was like, all right, cool, this worked out. How old are you when you became a cop? I think I was.

21, 22? It was so, I had enough. I just had enough of my ex. It just got to the point where it was like, too, enough is enough. Like, it was a really jacked up situation that happened, that really opened my eyes. And it happened around his family, too.

And A was like, all right, this is just getting to a crazy level. That's enough. So I became a cop. At the point of time, he, still ended up causing some problems my first years of peace officer, which was a really bad struggle I had to hide. So I did get him out of like the one house I was in, but then he ended up staying the night at the other house. I ended up getting after I became a cop and just wouldn't leave. And it was a whole thing. And then we were like, oh my gosh, like at that point I was like,

I'm not going to be able to end this. Like this is crazy. But yeah. So it was, it was an incident where I don't know how to word this because I don't want to completely put everything out there. but it was an incident to where at one point he got my duty weapon and put it to my head. And my kids were there. And it was just like, had that went off? Like, I don't know what I would have done, you know? Like, my kids either A would have been without a mom or B, it could have ricocheted and hit one of them. And then he ended up grabbing my hands and putting it in my hands and putting it to his head.

After, after I, at that point, I didn't even show fear. I was like, if whatever's going to happen has happened. Like, I just was like, here it is. I like this is my this is my demise I knew this was coming like I knew better and then he once he saw it wasn't getting a reaction he had moved it to my hands it was holding my hands squeezing them to his head and after that I was like this is insane and then when we went around his family he ended up doing something sexually with other children in the bed to me that was just I was like I woke up and was like what the fuck, you know?

I was just appalled. So after that, it just opened my eyes and I was able to remove that. But that first year was a little bit of a struggle, honestly. Like, I don't even remember half of it. So you were already a cop at that point when that happened? Yeah. So I was like, that's why it's like hard to remember what year I started as a cop.

I want to say it was 21. I think it was like the end of 21 going into, I might have just turned 22. But it's so hard for you to remember because I was like still struggling with bullshit on and off that first year of me training. It was just crazy. What did that process look like to becoming a cop,

especially with your past and criminal history, if you had any? No, luckily enough, I did not have criminal history. Did not have any of that. I got so lucky with that. I had so many breaks. I don't know how I didn't, but I got lucky. So no criminal history.

the hiring process was actually extremely hurtful. So I had conditional offers from two other places, start dates, everything. And although I could have sued for this, but I didn't, they had dropped me because they said that me being in a recent domestic violence incident within the last year and doing what I did, dropping chart, this and that didn't look good for the community. So I was told by two different departments and dropped by two different departments for that, which I was like, you know, really, they technically can't do that, that I was a victim in a crime. I didn't commit the crime as a victim, but they didn't want to mess with that. They didn't want the possibility that that was going to be a continued thing, which, I mean,

they weren't too far off. It did continue, you know, for half a year to a year and to me being a police officer. So the department that I got hired at, I was very grateful. and to this day I'm very grateful. Although I have my differences with some people there, the people who hired me and the people that did inspire me and believed in me and didn't judge me for those things, to this day, I still appreciate them,

I still respect them, and I appreciate the chance that they gave me to be a police officer. So the hiring process was a little rough at first. Now, getting into law enforcement, there's expectations. So in the academy, they do have exceptions for females. with certain tests. When you're getting hired, there's no, there's no exceptions. You're going to do the stuff that the males are doing. And if you can't do it, then you're gone. There's no exceptions. It was you're going to do the same PAT test. You're going to do the same training. You're going to

get the same scoring. If you can't, then you're not cut out for it. So that was a little bit of a challenge because, you know, I'm five foot too. At the time, because I was so just like, stressed out. I probably was only like 86 to 92 pounds. So I was tiny. And I just had to work really hard. It was more so of a mental battle of knowing if I'm going to do this, I have to do it. I got to do the damn thing. So it wasn't the easiest hiring process, but I got through it, at least. How are the other recruits and even the trainers treating you? So it is a mix. Like I said, at that department, there was some really great people and then there's just some really shit power hungry i could tell they were bullied as kids people

that it was like oh gosh why are you training people or why is this person a supervisor like what is going on initially it was half and half i was welcomed for one of two reasons one they were either nice or two they wanted to get my pants and then the other flip side of things i was told i was driven through a McDonald's line and was told to get an application. And was told if I can't cut it, that's where I'm going to be working, which jokes on them. I'm actually banned from working at McDonald's because I got fired by McDonald's as a teenager trying to fight someone through a window. Jokes on you, the supervisor.

I couldn't even work at McDonald's if I wanted to. But, yeah, there was some of them, even when I was in there for two years and I had already kind of proven myself to be good, you know, and okay. and I've done what I'm supposed to do, they still would give me shit and they still would be harsh to the point where we had training with FDLE and they called it out

and they're like, she's a badass. Like this bitch is bad. Like, she's doing everything what you're all doing? And if not, better than some of the dudes that are doing it. Like, what the fuck is wrong with y'all? They even noticed

and called it out and saw it. So some treated me with respect and some looked at me like, why are you here? You know, like, fuck you. Like, this is stupid. It was half and half. How long did it take to finally get

in through the process, through training and everything. Honestly, it's not that long of a process. Like, it takes a couple months to get hired, and then you do a couple months of FTO when you're on the road. Personally, I feel like it needs to be a little bit longer. I don't think it's long enough. I don't even think you are established and able to function as a cop until, like, year two. So I think it needs to be a little bit longer than what it is.

probably from what I remember, maybe nine months in total for the hiring process in training, maybe. If that, six to nine months from what I remember, not long. What state was this in? Florida. And what's the starting salary? My starting salary was like $16 in something, maybe like $16.84 or something. An hour.

Yeah, it was trash. And then... You could get more at a supermarket. Yeah, I think my starting training was like 16 something. And then when I got out on my own, I think it went up to... $18 an hour. I, after almost, I was there for almost five years, I ended on like $21 an hour. And that's what night shift differential to. Now, what year was this? I left 2022. That's crazy. Only $21 an hour. Yeah. I think it was like 2020. I left. For night shift too.

Yeah, for night shift too. So it wasn't great. What about overtime? Could you get overtime? You can, but it almost like hurts you worse in taxes. Crazy enough. They don't give you a salary. To be out there, it's all hourly. So it is a salary, but when you break it down hourly, that's what it comes down to, yeah. That's crazy. Are the benefits good? I was going to say, I'm like, I don't really remember. It might have been hourly, but when you break it down, it's like they promise you at least

the whatever $1,000 a year in your hours. Regardless, it's still low. I don't know. It was trash. What did you just ask? Sorry, I'm so out of it. The benefits, if the benefits were good. like health insurance?

Not really. So not really. Honestly, like the health insurance was okay. But any health care worker and law enforcement worker can tell you majority of the health care they provide you is not great. It's just not great. I've even gone in there and, you know, went and told them, I'm having this issue and they're like, you're fine.

Like, suck it up. You're fine. And then I go to an ER and they're like, you're not fine. No, that's an issue. So I wouldn't say it's the greatest, honestly. The only benefit you really get from it would be. helping people. Like, when you're able to and it's successful, that feeling of helping someone, that's probably about, like, the only benefit you get from it. There's a lot more negative

aspects you get from law enforcement than positive, honestly. Yeah, but they should still be well compensated, especially for putting their lives out there. No. I personally don't think so. There might be people out there that think that's the bees' knees. And they're right at that for me, know as I was a single mom eventually with two kids, that was not feasible for me at all. And just in general, I feel like for risk in your life, it definitely should be more money. Like, that's crazy. What are you talking about? $21 an hour? I know people who are like gas station managers, not, I'm not saying it's a bad job, but gas station managers are making way more than that. A car wash. Like Buckees, we were laughing. Like Buckees, people at Buckees made more

money than us at one point. And we're like, damn, we should go work at Buckees, I guess. I don't know. It was weird. discourages you to do your job properly or ethically or correctly in some scenarios? I would say that it kind of, once you get burnt out from working so many hours, because the majority of the time, like, we were understaffed. We were a smaller department. So we were very understaffed. So we were working like day and day out. Like it was hard. So I think it does discourage people knowing that at the end of the day, your paycheck's really not going to be the greatest, which mind you, you're not really doing it for a paycheck, but you do still have to

live. So when you're going home, already dealing with all these things and it's just freaking and traumatic half the time. And then you go home and you're like, looking at the bill is like, fuck, I can't even pay that bill. It does get a little discouraging at some points of like, now you have the stress of financial issues and you have the stress of all the shit

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Like, I would say it's a mix again. So the one field training officer tried to blame me for stupid shit he did. So that was an experience. And I was like, I actually have proof that that was you. that did that. So he tried blaming me for his shit and his fuck-ups. So that was a weird one, which I didn't even feel like he was competent enough to be an FTO, honestly. My other FTO started out pretty good. He was cool. He was nice. And then it just went crazy again. He just, I don't know. I don't know if he was panicking what he was doing. But there's a situation where, again,

I'm sitting here getting blamed for something. And I was like, he's the one that wasn't answering his radio or paying attention when I was trying to get help. So I had to go above him and get on the radio and ask for help because he's not he's sitting or arguing with someone not even paying attention to other things that are going on to the point he almost got hit by a freaking car so i'm like this dude's not listening to me he's telling me to go away and i'm like what the fuck so i had to like contact another supervisor to come over his that sounded horrible maybe i shouldn't say come over his jesus to come and help so oh god so uh that was crazy the other fTO i had she was cool but then it was just a weird dynamic because then we were talking about her man that works out our department.

So then it was just a little weird because I'm like being used to find out things that are like going on, I guess, between him and another female that works like evidence at her apartment. So then that just got weird. And then she was friends with people that just didn't really care for me, I guess. So that was like, she was cool. And then it just got a little weird. I don't know. I would say my FTO experience was just weird. It was almost like a circus.

Like I don't know. Like I feel like I didn't learn. too much throughout the process. The only FTO that was stable was one that I had. I don't remember if he was at the end of the beginning. He's a father as well. His wife is really sweet too. He was probably the most stable one out of all of them that was helpful. And I kind of did look at him in a dad aspect. I really respected him. And to this day, I still respect him. And his wife was just so sweet. And he had a little boy. And they were just So I think that was the only good experience out of FTO training I had.

All the other ones, just, there's just too much going on. Even one was arguing with his freaking baby mom on the cell phone 24-7 screaming, damn it, this is not like just losing his mind and they're cursing at each other, like just going crazy. And I was like, what the fuck is this? So I would say my FTO experience was a little bit of a shit show. Like, it was a little weird. I don't know.

Do you think people counted you out because you were young and all? also a woman? Like, I wouldn't say during FTO that I was counted out. It was more so afterwards. It was more so after I got approved at FTO that people still, like, started doubting me. Like, okay, she made it through FTO, but whatever, you know, like, let's see how she does in this money years or this is not. There's definitely a few people, especially supervisors that I just, I don't even, I don't know. I don't even feel like they really want women in law enforcement. That's just how it kind of came off to me. It feels like they just want it to be like good old boys club like no women like they seem more traditional with it so i feel like it was

after training that people started really challenging me um and putting me in those situations and even after training there was one point where i had to ride with the supervisor um because i had missed something which was also part of the people i was working with's fault too they should have been watching me better i had only been off for like a week or two or something so um i feel like that's when it started getting challenging, like, where people weren't really accepting me right off the back, you know? I don't know. It was a weird mix. Where'd you get assigned to after training?

The whole city. It was just everywhere, wherever they need you. It was so short-handed just everywhere, wherever we were needed. And then since I was a female and there really wasn't much females on the road in the area, I ended up being the only female on the road for that department too for a while. I got sent to even other cities to go do like pat-downs and stuff and things like that. So I got sent around just everywhere, honestly. What do you mean by pat-downs?

Like if they needed somebody being searched, if they were arrested, they needed someone to either be pat-ed-down or searched before getting into the vehicle or before continuing with them for safety. I would get sent to different areas. Even if county needed us or anything, I'd get sent and help them. Half the time, even county was short and we'd have to go. help them to and get sent out. We'd be in a different city helping. So we just were sent everywhere. They did do it to where they would try if there was enough people where you would be assigned

to one half of the city and they would have the other half. But most of the time, if somebody was tied up, you're going everywhere. It just really didn't matter at the point. You're being sent to wherever you're needed. Was that only female suspects or was that anyone? So I was able to search and pat down male and female. If there was a male available, I would absolutely present them that opportunity to have a male. Half the time I would end up having to do that because it's just everyone was tied up or things like that to where I just didn't have help. So I would have to do that, which there's a certain procedure for doing that anyway.

But majority of the time I would be sent for the females and do the female searches and pat down. So male officers can't pat down females? They can, but it's preferred not to. It's really preferred. Same with females. Females really are preferred not to, but half the time it gets down to. where you have to. Like, if I wasn't on shift and there's no one else available, they're going to have to do it. There's no if, ands, you can't just put somebody in the back of your car

and not see what they have, you know, it's just redundant. So they'll be on the side of the highway and call for a female officer to come pat them down? Yeah. That's kind of crazy. Well, it definitely got crazy because half the time they wouldn't even warn me what I'm walking into. So I had this one incident where County had called me and he was like, hey, I need you up with a female search, this and that. She got arrested for this. can you help me? I get there. She's freaking pissed. He had, I don't know if he did it or somebody, they pissed her the hell off.

So she's like screaming at me, calling me like a cunt, like all these other names, saying she fucked all these people at my department and like just saying all these things, like just all these fucking names. So then finally I was like, I have to ask what kind of brought you have on this and that.

She's like, I have a trap door brawn, cunt. Like it was crazy. I was like, okay, thank you. So then I was like, hey, can you like spread your legs a little bit more so I can, you know, search and this night. How far do you want me to spread them? How far you want me to spread that as far as I spread them for so and so? Like, I don't want to say the name, but it was somebody from my department. I was like, oh, bitch, you're spilling the tea right now. I was like, good Lord. So then I go to search under, and this is

not her braw to make sure there. And she's like, titties, titty, show my ternies. I was like, what the fuck is this bitch doing? Half the time, I got spin on. Like, they would never tell me what the hell was going on with these people. And yeah, I would end up being spit on. I would end up having to fight with them. I would end up having to like, it just got crazy. I was like, can you all start fucking warning me when I'm getting myself into before I come search your damn females? Who treated you worse, the male suspects or the female suspects? Females. I mean, that's evident. The males would always try to flirt with me or like be nicer to me. I don't know. I had a lot more issues with females than the males for sure. That's interesting. Right, which I was always nice,

but they just, I always got called a bitch or something, which I was like, dude, I'm actually really nice cop. Like, I'm not a bitch, like, I can be, but I rarely got shitty with people. It was very rare. And that's why a lot of people in my department didn't like me because they're like, oh, you need to be like this. No, I don't. I don't have to be a dickhead, dude. I really don't. So, yeah, I'd feel like it's just, I don't know, if you must get catty sometimes. I think that's just how it ends up being. I wouldn't say it was too often, but sometimes I would get females that were pissed. Do you think it's a jealousy thing? Like they see you successful in a position of authority? It could be. I don't know what the hellers would be jealous. I make it $21 an hour.

I wouldn't necessarily be jealous about it. It could be or like vice versa. They would be, sometimes they would know that they can't pull one over either. So sometimes they would flirt with the boys and start pulling a quick one on them, you know? And it's like, ah, fuck, here comes a female. I ain't going to be able to flirt with her, you know. I can't, you know, press my boobies up or do whatever, you know, like, fuck, I'm fucked. I think it was more of an aggravation thing of, damn, now I can't flirt with the dudes to try to get out of this, this, and that. I think it was more of that, honestly. I think that's what we got into.

What do you think was your first challenging aspect of the job? My first challenging aspect, I would say it was more so my coworkers than the job itself. Like, yes, the job was hard at times. it got very, very stressful. I think it was more of my coworkers. So there was just so many different, uncomfortable things happening. And when I finally was just like, dude, I don't want to do this. Like, I'll take accountability.

I would flirt or I would kind of play the game to get to where I needed to be. And like, it was just uncomfortable. So it was just a little bit easier to do it that way to keep people happy. But then eventually after years, it was like, all right, I had this. fucking point. Come on, you guys aren't anything tired of me, bro? Like, come on. Like, it just got exhausting. So I just didn't want to play the game anymore. Like, I just did not. Like, I got over it. And once I stopped doing that, people started rebelling against me. They either didn't like me or they started shit talking to me or they got to the point where people

wouldn't even back me up. Like, I'd be freaking screwed. And, like, they wouldn't even back me up. And they'd be busy or find something to do or, oh, sorry, didn't know you needed that. Or, like, it just got really toxic. And, I mean, it got to. down to the point where I literally one time threw my vest at my supervisor because I was so fucking aggravated that he wasn't listening and didn't give it shit that I was over. I was like, dude, I'm fucking going home. Fuck all you, dude. Like, fuck all of you. Like, I was so mad. I had this one coworker. Um, mind you, married. We were never in a relationship. I really never let him on too much either. This and that. We had like not too many conversations. He would get.

so fucking mad that if I wasn't spending my time with him or like doing stuff, you know, with him in law enforcement and calls with him or just hanging out even in between writing my reports, if I was with any other officers, he would go as far as to text me or freaking cad message me, your knees hurt yet. Oh, how's your jaw? Oh, this and that. Like would sit here and just like freaking consistently say stupid shit. I was like, can you please just shut the fuck up? Like stop. And he went as far as the point to try to get people in trouble. He started calling their agency and trying to get them in trouble saying, oh, these two are hanging out and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, they're doing this now.

I'm like, they're having to back me up because you're not. You know what I mean? Like, y'all are nowhere to be fucking found. So they're helping me. I was like, and yes, we're sitting here chatting while I'm writing reports or I'm eating my fucking lunch. So what? Who cares?

We're in a public, like, area. Who gives a shit? So it just got to the point where I was like, this shit is so toxic. And then there was just other incidents. Like, I probably have, which I didn't want to. say things because once you tell people things, you're blacklisted, and you're also, a lot of the time, they'll blame the female. And I also didn't want to be one of those females that a lot of these people were married. And I didn't want to ruin marriages or this, this, and that.

It's like I knew I probably should have spoke up, but I didn't want to. But there was a lot of situations to the point. I started wearing boxers to work over my underwear because people would try to be inappropriate with me. I had one put their freaking hands down the front, like, I thought they were just going to, like, fix. But they didn't know. They put their hands down. We're trying to be weird. I was like, yo, what the fuck.

I had one literally try to freaking make out with me, kiss me, kissed me. I had another one. Like, it's just, it was getting crazy. Like, people were touching me inappropriately. It was just getting too much. Like, I had one of those consistently touching my ass. Like, and it's like, all fun in games until it's not fun in games anymore. It just was getting too much.

Even to the incident of like, I went and hung out with some of these people out of work. Next thing you know, I'm, I freaking got roofy. And it's like I wake up at my co-worker's house not fucking knowing a single damn thing that's happening. How long I've been out what's happening? I had freaking fingermarks and bruises all in my thighs. I 100% could have went to the hospital and got everything done and figured it out. Everybody was telling me five million different stories of what happened. Who took me home? Where was I? Where did I go? Oh, where car? And this is not. That could have been insane. And that co-worker on his wife ended up filing stuff against him too for similar shit and other things.

And I was like, I just left it, you know, because I didn't want to cause too much drama, too much shit. I wanted to keep my job. I was scared going to lose my job too because sometimes it happens like that. So there were things I spoke up on and nothing got done. And then there was things that I will take accountability did not speak upon because I just didn't want drama. So my coworkers in itself, I had some really good people. that were really genuine, that were awesome, that really helped me in my law enforcement career that I respect so fucking much.

A handful of people that were awesome. But then there was a handful of people that were just fucking gross. Just gross. Like, they just, and I asked other people, too, like, do you go through this every day? Do you get these CAD messages? And it was not even just my department. It's other departments too, CAD messaging me. Hey, with smiley faces.

Even, like, lieutenants. I'm like, what the fuck, dude? Like, this isn't appropriate. Like, this is just crazy. And I asked one male co-worker that, like, I did trust, do you deal with this every day you go to work? Like, every day I go to work, I don't get, like, I always get sexually harassed by someone, someone. There is bound to happen by someone. And he's like, no, I've never been through any of this.

And I was like, must be fucking nice to go to work and not have to worry about it or deal with that shit. You know what I mean? It was like fucking crazy. So as for my coworkers, I would say handful, great. Other handful trash, which majority of them aren't even cops anymore anyway. Because they got fired or quit? Mix, fired, quit, told they have to quit or else they're going to get fired, things like that. Like a lot of them are gone, but there's a few that are still there that probably shouldn't be there, but it is what it is.

So now when you said you had to play the game early on in your career to get what you wanted, what does that mean? Describe that for us. I mean, there's times where it's like I would, you know, be a little flirtatious back where I necessarily wouldn't have even been into the person, which I knew better. That is what it is. And it's almost like the same situation as teenage years, you know, sometimes I do. things I really didn't want to do to get to where I needed to be. So it was like I knew, okay, I'm brand new. I don't want to upset these people. I don't want to cause chaos. I also know as a female, if I am not into these people, more than likely I'm going to get back on. They're going

to start some type of fucking rumor or they're going to do this is not. So I might as well just keep them happy and at bay, even if I'm not into it. Because I want my job and I want people to like me and I want this, this and that. That's not a damn good way to go. about it. I will be the first person to tell you because it backfired. But yeah, I mean, that's kind of, it was just like a survival thing of like, all right, I know that more than likely if I'm nicer to this person and this and not, that they're going to help me more or that, hey, I might even be able to do this extra detail or, hey, they might recommend me for this, this and that. They might have a good word for me or blah, blah, blah, blah. So that's what I kind of meant by playing the

game of let's keep these people a little happy and just like try to see where it goes, you know? Was there a lot of dating going on among officers? I wouldn't say necessarily. So, I mean, in my department, there were couples. That's, I mean, that's how I met my husband. So literally, yeah, there was some dating. Like, I mean, I'm not going to lie, there was a few hookups I did in my department with

people necessarily. Was it hookups I really wanted to happen? No, we went out for a drink. shit happened or whatever, whatever the case may be, it happened. So it was like, there is dating. There is people just hucking up. It's police work. I would say hospitals, EMS, police, firefighters, all things like that. It is very common for hookup culture. There's a lot. And there's a lot of cheating, too, that goes on in these things. I won't say all, but there definitely is a lot of cheating and a lot of hookup culture in these things. And I think it's because we bond. You know,

you're with each other for so many hours that it just kind of happens. You know, you, you're with each other through traumatic moments. You're with each other through so many different things. And you're almost with each other more than your damn family or your wives or sponsors or things like that, that it just kind of happens. Like, it's not rightfully, but it happens. Now, do you think that's a positive or a negative to have relationships within the department like that? I'd say more so negative. just firsthand experience, I would say negative. I don't think probably people should be dating in the same department. Even if they're in different positions, I just don't think it's fair either.

I don't think it's fair, especially when it comes to promotions. Like my department right now, the chief is with the sergeant that's like in the office. And it's like if she ever gets promoted or gets any higher, that's just, not going to look genuine or if you get her anything throughout police work that she may need for resource, extra resource, things, it just doesn't look right. So I feel like probably shouldn't be happening, honestly, not the greatest because if people break up to or if they're having a hard day or they're not getting along or even things like it, it can cause a lot of problems. Just even my husband, there'd be times where we first started talking and, you know, he's never been

a vindictive person, never been a mean person, ever than this and that. But there would be times where I find myself, he's getting off, I'm getting on shift, and I'm getting stuck with some freaking bullshit when I first walk in, that he just didn't have the time to finish. And I'm like, okay, got it. Well noted, thank you. So, I mean, he's never been vindictive. But I'm like, all right, yeah.

I don't think people should probably be dating. In police departments, I think is too much room for error in emotion. Now, you mentioned you'd be on a call and they wouldn't respond to a backup call. What were those situations like? Dangerous? Like, there'd be times where they just didn't fucking show up at all. Or vice versa, they put themselves on the call and they never fucking were there. And I'm like, what the fuck?

Or vice versa, they were doing something or they were somewhere and it took too long. I'm so sorry. Yeah. Dangerous as fuck. The prominent one that sticks into. to my mind at this day, everybody was hanging out at the damn wawa, which everybody would. They're hanging out of the damn wawa as a break, which whatever. There's nothing going on, take a break, get an energy drink, whatever. Coffee, so on. It took them way too damn long.

There was one person, we called him the cowboy. I'm not going to say the city because I really don't want to plug the city, but the cowboy, he would walk around with no shirt, just being crazy, you know, he was just being crazy. He was, he was a character, but he was crazy. He was always respectful, though. But one day, I don't know what he took. He ended up just being completely a different person, very aggressive, not listening, not compliant, freaking just losing his mind. Unfortunately, I did have to arrest him because he did, you know, commit a battery. I had no choice. And I was like, hey, and usually he's super chill, you know, very chill, very relaxed, always awesome to work with. He was out of it. I don't know what the fuck he was on. So I went to go deal

with him he had a knife he ended up pulling a freaking knife so i'm sitting or having you know and this dude's tall as shit he's like six-foot-something tall lanky you know he's lanky i don't even know how i got the knife on the ground i can't even tell you like i just remember we were like wrestling with each other i had gotten into like pushed into the freaking um gas pump thing just from there i don't know that's we end up getting to the ground and how i got him in handcuffs i couldn't tell you I really don't know. God's grace or something, I have no idea. End up getting him in.

I got him to the car. Finally, after everything happens, they finally show up. Where the fuck were you? Like, this has been going on for like 20 minutes. And, like, where the fuck were you? Like, what the fuck? And then, even on top of that, I thought they damn searched him and they didn't. Which I feel like that was purposely done too.

I feel like they, oh, well, we thought you searched. I watched him already. You know damn well. I don't search the mails. And you guys search the mails when you come before I put him in the car. What the fuck are you talking about? Like, no, that shit was intentional. And I ended up getting in trouble because he had stuff in his pockets at the jail. I was like, are you fucking kidding me? So I already had a damn deal with that bullshit. It was dangerous. And then he has shit in his pockets. And they're yelling at me, what the hell? Why is there? I didn't fucking do that. And then I'm still getting in trouble anyway. So I'm like, this is bullshit. Even down to the point, like, people were all shit talking

me in a group. And I had just gotten, like, a new squad car. I was so proud of it. They were so nice. I had earned it, and I was just, it was the ghost car. They were so cool. And I was so happy. I worked so fucking hard for so many years. I even put in extra hours without even getting paid, right, on certain things. So I'm like, I'm so happy that I got this new car. It's awesome. No. So I parked it near Sprinkler, and it got, like, the rainbowy marks on it. And I was going to pay out of my own money to go get it fixed. They all shit talked to me and were saying all these bullshit things about me getting me in trouble and this night. I got my fucking car taken. I was like, are you serious? And I got put in the shittiest car. I was like, these fucking people,

I was over it. So there was a lot of fuckery and a lot of bullshit that I had to deal with. And without them backing me up, it's fucking dangerous. I'm, you know, I'm not the She-Hulk. Yes, I know what I'm doing. I could do what I'm doing. But I mean, I could have been killed. Like, it's dangerous. And there's so many other situations, too, where I've had to fight with people, where I've had to do with people. And there are nowhere to be fucking found, which I know there's police departments that have to do with that, especially state troopers. They don't really have much back of this and that. And I applaud them for that. That's great.

But it shouldn't have been like that for me. I did have people. There were people there. They just didn't choose to come where they chose to take 10 years and get there. Crazy. What was your hardest call to respond to? Hmm. Hardest call to respond to?

probably any of the infant death calls. Any calls that involve children that are dying or deceased, I would say those ones were the hardest. I remember my supervisor ran out to me in a panic with, I mean, this baby was probably only a few weeks old, ran out to me in a panic and just threw this, like, dead baby in my arms. And I was like, hello? What the fuck is going on?

And of course, you know, we had to do CPR, our baby did not make it, unfortunately. And there's just a couple other calls that I went to with infants that it's just, that's hard. Kid calls are hard. Or having to go tell parents that their kids are deceased, you know, from car accidents, seeing things like that. I remember one day my husband was working to, which this caused an immense amount of mental health issues for him. It was a really bad car accident. And this kid was just pouring blood out the back of his head. Like, I mean, it was just bad. And he ended up dying, I think, in my husband's arms. That one was a really bad. was hard. Anything with kids? Yeah. Like, I'm a pretty tough person, but that pulls out my heartstrings.

That one hurts because it's like, damn, they didn't even have a chance. You know, like, those are the hardest calls. I will say other calls in general, there was hard things I had to do with. I mean, I did get certified, so I got sent out to a lot of child sex crimes. Those were hard. It was very, very hard to compose yourself with the person who committed it. I had to be nice to them because I was investigating things. So the nicer you are, the more you can get out of people. So I had to, playing nice with people that you know sexually assaulted, a child, especially I had one where he's in prison for life because of the case that I did. Had to be nice. And it's so hard to be nice to people like that. It's very hard. That was probably hard to. That's one of the hardest

one. So between child sex offenses and child deaths, those I think were my hardest times for sure. What about your hardest arrest? Maybe arresting someone that you didn't feel like needed to be arrested, but your superiors made you arrest or something along those lines. Oh yeah, that happened a lot. So we have a thing called officer discretion and not a lot of people in my department wanted to use it. I used it because you can. It's legal. I have officer discretion. There's some things I don't have to take people to jail for. The two incidents that I remember, was the first one was this lady had an infant. She had a suspended license, and they wanted me to take her to jail for it.

And I was like, fuck no. They made me stop the car too, mind you. They're like, hey, stop that car. They made me think that they were going to handle it. No, I end up having to handle it. I remember they towed her car. She was left on the fucking side of the road in the Florida heat with no help. nothing. I offered a driver to a gas station that said she wanted nothing to do with me.

She was so mad, which rightfully so. That's fucked up. Like we have discretion. We didn't have to that car. We could have damn well, there's so many different things we could have done to do. But we didn't because they were like now, now, we're doing this, we're doing now. I'm like, that's so fucked up. Like, I don't agree with that. And they were just making me do it. And then they left. So it made it look like it was all me. I was like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, that was fucked up. The other one that I can remember was there was a female on a domestic violent relationship and I was like I understand there's been past history of domestic violence him doing things he's done fucked up things to you

and I understand that sometimes victims can become abusive because they're dealing with the abuse and it's like reactive abusive is what they call it and I felt bad that I had to arrest her because I know that she finally just snapped and had enough. But I had to. There's no if answer, but you started. I mean, I know you didn't start, start it. It all was started from whatever, but you were the first to put your hands on him.

So you have to go. So that one sucked a little bit because it was like, dude, if you had just handled that a little bit different, which I understand, it's hard. Especially when somebody's already hit you and you're scared and they're up in your face, yeah, it's probably a natural reaction to want to them get them away from you, which half the time that can be self-defense. But the way that she went about

it, it just, there was no justifying it. There was no way of justifying it as self-defense. So that one sucked a little bit. I was like, oh, damn, I wish I didn't have to give you, but I do. Like, sorry, I have to be fair. Like, it just is what it is. How far into your career do you meet your husband? Year three, three, yeah, three, three and a half years I was already, or, or, it might have been year four, either three and a half year or four. And he was with the department that whole time? No. He was the rookie. Oh, he was before you. He was the rookie. Or after you. Yeah, so I'm creepy now. No, no. So he had worked at a different department, did his training, and then ended up leaving them, got hired with us. Do you really care for him at first? I kind of thought

he was stupid. Not going to lie. I was like, and I think he was doing it on purpose because he was trying to get my attention. At that time, too, I had already, I officially had separated with my eggs, things like that. I just didn't care for men at that point, really, when it came to dating. I just didn't want anything to do with that. I wasn't really into it. The first time I had ever saw my husband, I was sitting in my captain's office, which I worship my caption. Even to this day, I don't know, I just have always looked up to him. He's always been so respectful. He's the one that gave him my chance to get hired. Nothing weird has ever happened between us. Like, I just admire him. I I don't know. I guess I'm a little keen on him. I admire him a lot. And I was like,

looked over at my husband because the captain's like, meet the new rookie. I was like, yeah, hi. Like, you're ruining my captain's time. Get away from me. I'm venting to him. Like, go away. You know, this is my peace of mind time. You know, like, hi, whatever. Say. After that, just like some of the ways he was being on calls, I was like, is this like, dude's stupid. Like, what is going on? I was like, I guess he was just trying to get extra help for me. I don't know while he was training because he trained on my shift for a little bit too. So sounds like whatever. I guess he's just trying to get extra hold. Moving down the line, he gets out on his own.

I really didn't pay attention the whole time. Mind you, he was married. They were having their issues. I did talk to his wife for a little bit. She added me. She was having her own mental crises. It was a mess. They should have even been married in the first place. It was a hot mess. Honestly, the both of them talks for each other. So I'm talking with her, helping with that. Moving forward from there, down the line, they end up separating. They keep going on and off. They separate. I'm in the freaking crisis class with him training with everybody and him and this other coworker that he was friends with that I was friends with

they're just texting me stupid memes and stuff and talking my coworker's like hey you should ride with so-and-so and I was like why do I want to ride with him dude no just ride with him for lunch come on just go with him talk to him whatever fine so we talk and he's telling me everything that's going on with the on and off wife and this, this and that. And I'm like, all right. So we started talking. I was like, okay, he's not bad of a person. He's kind of interesting, blah, blah. He was very British at the time. So he's from England. He had a strong British accent at the time. So I'm like,

all right, that's kind of cool, whatever. So we just started talking from there. So we talked for quite some time, probably a few months until we actually became, like, intimate with each other or like whatever. I will say that day he did pull a quick one on me and he asked me to fix his wires. And I'm sitting here like, you don't know how to fucking fix your laptop wires? Like, dude, this dude really is slow.

So like, I'm fixing his wires. I look back up and like, your wires are done. He just kisses me. Our fucking sergeant is like right there. And I'm like, I'm going to have a heart attack. I didn't even know how to feel about it. I was like, am I into this? okay maybe but then I messaged him I was like dude are you really like do you have proof you're separated from your wife because like I'm not getting involved in this fucking drama which he did he showed me no she's out of the house this and that he showed everything but I was like okay I was like all right fine so then we started talking and then probably a month or so down the line um just ended up meeting up and yeah rest was history from there so we were probably on and off for like a year um just talking we never officially dated until he was um he he ended up getting divorced um and all that moved forward from there but we were like on and on and off

off as like secret hookup buddies in the department for probably like a year I think it was I ended believing he was still a and he ended up believing too but then he went back to the same department again so it was a weird situation it was kind of like um sneaky buddy after that after a little while but yeah he was the rookie I broke the rookie rule everyone even told me don't break the rookie rule don't get with him don't do this isn't that blah blah I stayed strong for a while and then it broke the fucking rule. So do you feel like you contributed to some of the things that were going on then in that department?

In which realm? In the way of, you know, maybe men, I guess coming on to you in certain ways and you were entertaining some and not others or just the dynamics of the department? Maybe. I mean, maybe. I don't want to completely say no. Like, I mean, it definitely was like that before that because I'd already heard things about that. I know the people are already that way before that.

Could I have not played into it? Yes, I could have. And there were a lot of pissed off people, especially when they started finding out about me and my husband. Like, oh, damn, she's with him. Like, what the fuck? So they started even, they got shitty with him, too. They were even screwing him over. Getting pissed, you know, like, oh, fuck both of you then, you know.

So maybe, yeah, I could have definitely not played into it, for sure. I'll take accountability for that. So now, did your husband play a big role in the reason why you left? Yes. And why is that? Okay, so two things. So the main reason why I left is because I was so tired of the fucking drama and the bullshit. It just got so toxic and so bad that I was like, this is not worth this. There's probably about three reasons. One, it got really toxic. And then also my captain was leaving. And I was like, yeah, I have no faith left in this. And I knew my chief was going to leave to, which I liked my chief as well.

They both were leaving and I knew this was going to go downhill. I was like, this fucking department is going to be a dumpster fire. which from what I've heard it's not the greatest right now they're having a lot of issues so I was like this is gonna be a fucking dumpster fire so I was like I need to get out of this this is just not healthy this is stressing me the fuck out second reason my husband had left and I just knew between our kids and wanting more kids and other things like that I just knew it was never going to work I can't be a police officer and go have more kids and it's just not going to work like I knew that wasn't going to work. And I figured that if I left, that I probably would have a chance because it was getting

down to the point where my husband and I were like, we love each other, we want to be together. We need to make this actually happen. I told him, I was like, I can't just keep being, you know, this secret around of it. We can't just keep going back for it. If we really do care for each other, we got to make this official and we need to do official things. You know, we have kids involved, things like that. I have literally taken care of the son he had. with his ex since he was three months old.

And I actually legally adopted him a few years ago. So it just was getting too intertwined. So I was like, if I'm a cop, this is never going to work. We need more money. We need more stability. And I knew he wanted to go back to being a cop because he had left only because of her. Because they were trying for the last time and this is not. And I was like, I knew he wanted to.

So I gave it up because I was like, you go do it. I know this is so much more important to you. You will probably have a better shot than I will. I already know I'm blacklisted. I already know this is not. Come back. come on so i told him go back third reason somebody used my pictures clickbait on a video on youtube for somebody having an oaf i saw how much money that person was making and i was like

hmm i think i'm gonna go start an oaf i was like not that i really wanted to but i was like damn dude i was like i can go open at of page and make us a shit ton of money and everyone's happy then we have money, then we have stability. I get to be at home with the kids 24-7, and you get to go be a cop again. Perfect. So that was the three influences of why I left. How much money did you see that person make? They were making like a few thousand dollars a month. So I actually surpassed them majorly. Yeah. And now OF is only fans for the older audience that doesn't know what the new kids are up to these days. Yeah. So when I did it, I was literally doing basic stuff, like stuff you would put on Instagram. And then every now and then I would have, like,

like lingerie shoes for it. And then towards like a, almost what, half a year into it, a year into it? Like I would start like popping a tito or something. I don't know. Dumb shit. Just dumb shit. Within the first three to three and a half weeks, I made $100,000. Now, were you still active as a cop? No. When you first started posting. Never in my life did I do that. I waited until after. That's the one thing that I was like, all right. So what happened was when I started getting the notion to leave, I was like, all right, let me look into this. Let me see. what you can and can't do. Let me see how this operates. I started contacting people that I knew that did have them and figuring out what I need to do. What shoes are to do? What do I need to

make this happen. I had the upper hand in it because I was already viral as a police officer on TikTok and Instagram. So I did like content and I used to do stuff with like Grant style, nine line, black rifle coffee company. And I had a whole bunch of other people I did shoes with their sponsors, things like that. So it was already on the social media world as a police officer. part-time, but never like that. So once I knew I was going to leave, I planned shoots in advance. All right. I know this is the date that I'm going to leave this department.

This is when I'm going to do this shoot. And then this is when I'm going to release. I also gave myself grace. So if I changed my mind, because I left on good terms and my captain told me if you want to come back. And my chief told me that too, you can come back. We can make it happen. It's okay. But I remember my chief told me, don't do anything I wouldn't do.

Sorry, chief. Sorry. So I ended up giving myself about two weeks before I think I even put it out there. I gave myself time to think. Is this really what I want to do? And I did it. And it worked out. Is it something that I wanted to do for the rest of my life?

No. Is it something that I have done for the last few years? Yes. Didn't want to do it for the rest of my life. But has it gotten me an immense amount of money to support my family? It absolutely has. Would I go tell other girls to do it? No, I wouldn't.

Would I tell anybody that was thinking of doing it to do it? Probably not. No. Very few and far would I tell there. There might be some people who really want to do it. I'm like, all right, well, this is how you do it then. But I would say no. So I'm not going to shame any type of that work because I know amazing people in that work. And I've met amazing people in that work in the last few years. But it's not something that I would suggest to do. It worked for me. It gave my family money and, you know, support and stability. But I wouldn't say it's something that you should go do. Why do you advise against it personally? Personally, I feel like it is very evasive to people's privacy. Once it's out there, it's out there. A lot of people do judge it, which it's at the end of the day, who cares? You know, do what you're going to do. But I just, I don't know.

I would say it's very mentally challenging as well. There is a lot of crazy people in the world. There's a lot of crazy things. Even just people saying some of the weird things that they say to you on there, like, just, it can get mentally daunting and daunting, whatever the word is. and exhausting. It just starts becoming very invasive to your private life. So that's why I would probably suggest against it.

I don't think it's great for people's mental health at all. Now, if you didn't have a platform to begin with before you jumped into it, do you think you would have had the same success? No. It takes a while to build. I have seen a lot of girls that are, I mean, they're gorgeous. Absolutely gorgeous, but they don't have the following. So there's no way of marketing it properly.

You have to do the work. You have to be on other social media platforms. or even, you know, forums and other things like that. You have to do a lot of work, which people think it's easy or just doing that. No, it's not. It's a lot of marketing work, too, and a lot of putting yourself out there, getting on a podcast, getting on a different thing, things, getting your name out there where people can find you. So a lot of girls think it's just going to be quick and it's not.

If you don't have the following or you don't have the resources to put yourself out there, nobody's going to know it's there and you're not going to make too much money. And you're only going to make 20 bucks, 30, like from your local people, you know, that you know it's not going to really work out. So you definitely have to have some sort of either plan or following. Even if you don't have a following, make sure you're on the forums or doing things like that. You know what I mean? You have to have something. How did your department feel about you being on social media in general and having a platform? Social media, they were fine. They were very, very cool about it. I actually used my platform for good too. So I would use it for

fundraising. I have raised so much money for people, cops that were injured, people that were injured civilians, police officers killed in the line of duty. My friend was also killed as a police I helped raise money for that and also raise awareness to that. I used my platform for really good things. So they weren't against it. As long as I wasn't being inappropriate or doing anything stupid, blah, blah, blah, or getting political with things, they were fine. So it worked out very well.

I even got people cars, homes. You know, I was really involved in the community across the United States. It wasn't even just Florida. I worked with companies and helped promote companies that helped people throughout the United States. So I've helped people throughout the United States with my platforms. So they were not appalled to me having it at all as long as I was being appropriate. Did you give it a second thought about putting, you know, your OF up there, like right before you launched? Because it would kill potentially any, you know, going back to police or anything like that. Yeah. I mean, even to this day,

I still think about it. Like, damn, should I have done that? Should that have been a thing that I did? I definitely consider it all the time. Do I want to get? get back into police work? No, because it's just, it's not good money. It's dangerous and it's not super rewarding. And also, I'm a little just uncomfortable from the situations that I was put in. Do I miss some of it? Yes. And do I sometimes think back of, oh my gosh, now I really can't. Now there is no choice. And my choice is taken away. It makes me uncomfortable. Yes. So there are times where I do sit back. But then there's a lot of times where I looked at my kids who, you know, I didn't have this lifestyle. I grew up very poor. And I look at my kids who have

absolutely everything they could want and more. They have their parents with them 24-7. You know, that's not something I had. They're with them 24-7. They're doing vacations that I could have never even dreamed of. They get to do homeschooling. I didn't get to do it. And they wanted to do it so bad. Hom schooling, and it's just so much better for them mentally, too, than to not have to spend hours in a freaking break school. Like, I just look at how good they're thriving and I know and I know firsthand they would not be thriving like they are now because I remember my daughter coming to me mommy please stay home mommy please don't go to work my please you've already worked this isn't that why do you have to go do this is not why are these people more important like

she she spoke up so I know that my kids wouldn't be thriving as much today if I was still a police officer so that to me in itself although I can't go back I don't think it matters anyway because they're that's all that really matters at that point, you know. Now, do you think there will come a time where you have to have that conversation with them about what you did? I'm sure. So my mom had that conversation with me. She was an exotic dancer for a little bit.

She did not particularly want to do that, especially my family are very Christian. It is very religious, very specific. So it is not something that we typically do. I have never been a child that's been in the box. You know, I've been out of the box. So she had that conversation with me. Please don't go do this. We will find a way. We will do this, this and that.

There's always other options. So, yeah, went and did a different version of things. You know, and I even, I did get a little bit more advanced into it. I did. My husband and I end up doing, you know, some pro stuff together, which I never, never slept with any other men. I have been faithful to my marriage in that. But down the line, if she ever came to me, I would never judge her. I would be very open. I wouldn't judge her, but I would say, hey, no and that's why I'm trying to make the money so she doesn't have to work you know like hey like

you don't even have to work dude you don't have to do these things mommy got you a house we're good you know like hey you're good you want to go do a different job to make a little extra stuff and be responsible hell yeah but that's why I'm trying to set their futures up now to where they're not going to have to you know so I would definitely say hey I'm not shaming this but this is not something you need to do this is not something you need to partake in this is very mentally draining you are going to be exposed to things that you should not be exposed to that can cause trauma and issues. And I would find a way to persuade her to not. And even if any other people in general, because a lot of people say, well, what about kids or what about this, this and that? And, you know, kids in general,

how are you a good response? You were a role model and now you're not. I'm like, I'm still a role model. To this day, I would not influence children, let alone even talk about it in front of children, because this is 18 and plus stuff, let alone would I talk about it in front of children. But if children found out, it's the same thing every time. No, I would not tell you to do this. No, don't be, don't be like me. Don't be done. Don't do that shit. Now, yes, I did it to get to where I needed to be, but it's not something y'all need to do. So when it comes to kids or my kids, that if it had to be talked about doubt in the line, that's what I would say. This is one one thing that you don't even need to get into or really, whatever questions you want to ask, ask, but this is not really

something that needs to be done or gotten into, you know? Now, I was reading the articles and and some of your past interviews, it kind of picked up steam because of you and your husband, both being cops. Yeah, so he ended up getting into it after, which, mind you, he got pulled in for an IA while he's a police officer.

And they were like, um, like just talking about my OF and this is not, like it was so inappropriate. Like, they put him off on his day off too. Like, it was just so weird.

They held like a whole entire like IA thing. But my question is, which I want the answers to this day. that stuff was you had to pay for it. So I want to know. The people want to know who paid for it. Did y'all watch it in the police department to investigate it? And did you watch it again at home?

I want to know those answers. Because that was a weird one. I was like, why are they pulling you in an IA for my OF? I'm like, it's freaking weird. But yeah, he ended up getting into it with me after he left. And did he get fired because of that? No. So what happened was,

He started getting backlash too for dating me and this is not. People were, again, not responding to his calls. He was getting missed for promotions, even though he put in all the work and had all the resources for it and even did freaking PowerPoints for it. He had the most arrests and narcotic arrests, all these things in the department. He had the highest stats. They screwed him out of Officer of the Year for some bull crap, literally because they're people-pleasing. It just was getting toxic for him, too.

And his mental health was depleting. He was starting to lose his mind between that call with the kid dying his arms and a million of things, he was just not himself. And it just wasn't going good for him. And then he was even missing out on time with his kids. He was starting to be negligent in our marriage. It was just a hot mess. And we got down to the point where he left for maternity leave,

like when we had our kid together. And our child ended up being in the NICU for a while. And a lot of things happened. And they gave away his freaking car too, which was his baby as well. And they were giving away other things and this and that. And they were just being sketchy. So he was like, you know what? I don't want to go back to this.

He was like being here. with you and our children and the Nick you scare and all these other things. He was just like, I just don't want to go anymore. Like, I don't want to go back. So I said, okay, go ahead. I was like, let them know. Let them come get your stuff. And we'll work this out. We'll figure it out. Whatever we got to do, we'll do. If you have to get a different job or if we got to do stuff to get, like whatever, we will figure it out. Like, I don't want you mentally, like mentally okay. You know what I mean? So that's how kind of that worked out. Do you think that if you didn't have policing, you wouldn't have found that success afterwards because it kind of played a role into that

platform you built? I don't know. Half and half. So I've always been pretty viral on social media one way or another. Even when I was a child after all the BS, I was a pageant girl. I've always been involved, you know, and then I was behind the scenes on like toddlers and tears and stuff. Like I've always been involved in things. I think down the line, I would have gotten into something definitely still. Social media acting. I mean, just like right now, I'm full-time music now. So I do music full-time. We re-robed rebranded. So, you know, my old name, yes, I used to go by Cici, whatever. That was, that was my alter ego, my twin sister, who was also a cop. Yeah, she kind of dabbled and all that. Me and my rebrand, my name, it is full-time music now. So I think one way or another, I would have gotten

into something, something in the social media world, something viral. I was constantly going viral. Even as a teenager, I always had hundreds, if not thousands of followers. Like, I was always finding my way and that stuff. I think I would have found it one way or another. I think the police definitely helped, but I think it would have happened one way or another anyway with something. Wait, your sister went down the same path you did. No. It's my fake twin sister. Oh, okay. I was going to say like, I was going to say biological twin sister. No, my alter ego. That's what I call. I'm like, it's my sister. No, it's my alter ego. I'm just joking. I'm playing around. So now you guys are done with only fans.

Yeah. Semi retired? Semi retired. So I haven't... The page is not closed, which we do want to close it in a few months. So if anybody's trying to find it, find it quick because it's about to be closed soon. It's going to be closed soon. What we kind of did was we transitioned out of it.

I haven't had a pro shoot or any type of shoots really in about, I think, almost a year now. It's been since last summer. So I did transition out of that into music. I started music full time in February. this year, but I haven't done any shoes for a while now. Like, it's been quite some time. So that's how we transitioned out of that. Now, as for shutting the page, we'll probably shut it in a few months because I just started getting into music. So I have to obviously build the funding on that, get more funding with that because I did drop a lot of money that I was making to do this path,

which doesn't pay as much right now. It could in the future, but it's not paying as much right now. So now I do like the live streams with like TikTok, which I think I'm going to get onto Twitch or something like that or kick or one of the two. We're going to be doing that soon. Now I do content to on social media related to music and related to real life and things like that. And I do have a separate cop page where I tell the cop stories and stuff as well. So we do that. And then I also do separate work where I help people with their social media or I do marketing analytics or development for people. So I also do get stuff from that.

So that's kind of what we're more so doing now. We're focusing on the music career. We're focusing on music in general and trying to grow that the way that I grew everything else, which is going very quickly, greatly. You know, I just had a celebrity feature within, I've only been doing this since February. And that's, what, four months now? Like, it's going quick. But nonetheless, page is getting closed soon.

Chapter will be closed very soon. Really don't even do too much on it anyway anymore, like interact on it much anymore, or do much anymore. So I haven't really even been making jack squat off or really any way. It's just been sitting there. But yeah, everything's still on there. And I, I do check it, but yeah. What about that desire to help people that you had, you know, since a young age and why you went into ultimately policing? What happened to that? And does that ever go away? No, it hasn't gone away. So I've still helped people in different ways throughout this money that I've gotten through everything. I have helped people. I've helped family members. I've helped strangers. I have.

have literally donated things. I have given money to people. I still did this very day help people. I literally just flew across the state too and helped somebody literally while we were doing all this getting here. Like I went and helped them with stuff and got them skirt away. Like any way that I can't, or even if I can't, if it's not financial, then it's advice. Hey, here's my phone. Or hey, here's DM me real quick. And we'll get you through. We'll help you. Or I'll try help you find resources or this, this and that. Or if people come to me, your stories like inspired me. How can I get that or how can I get through this? Any way that I can still help people, I help people. I always find a way. So it's like, I always say it's, it's the same mission but a different

uniform. I'm still me. I'm still somebody who cares. I might not have the badge, but I'm still able to help in different ways. And with my music or any other money that I make in the future, I still, there's so many ways that I want to help people. There's so many things that I want to set up. If I do hit it really, really big and get all this money, you know, I have plans to how I want to help people still or things that I might want to set up and things that I've just noticed in American general that people really need help on nowadays. It's really opened my eyes, too, on so many different levels of how I could help people. So it hasn't gone away. Same mission, different uniform. Why music? I've always loved music. I was a band kid. I played the trumpet.

And I also, yeah, I know, could you imagine. I was a band kid. I was a band nerd. Yeah, I was a trumpet nerd. Yeah, I was a trumpet nerd. I was a major nerd. I loved video games, too. I was very nerdy. throughout like elementary school, middle school. When I got into high school, I ended up switching and did cheerleading and other things because I was like, all right, I'm going to get bullied. But I played instruments. I did try learning guitar and piano.

I started that. I was in choir when I got in high school because I didn't want to get bullied for a band and I did want to do cheerleading, so I did that. So I did choir. My family does have a musical background. I don't really talk to them anymore, but I do have family that was on Broadway and was in a movie, a very, very staple movie, Annie.

main character in that one as well, one of the main characters. So I don't talk to them anymore, really. I haven't talked to my family much, but I just kind of come from that kind of background, too. I've always loved music, and I've always wanted to do music. Even when I was younger, somebody just sent me a DM the other day of a picture of me in the talent shows when I was younger, and I was like, oh, gosh.

Like, you know, I've always loved music. I just never put myself out there, and I was a little nervous to put my voice out there, too, because I was like, oh, I don't know if people are going to like it or not, you know. I think it sounds good, but you never know what people think. So it's scary. It's scary to put yourself out there. But finally, you know, throughout doing all that other stuff with social media, I met so many people in California that were like, dude, you have to get into music. Like you're so good. And I wrote for other people too. And they're like, you're so good at it. Like, come on. Show your talent. Go do this and not. Like, you're not going to be young forever. And it kind of influenced me to go into that. They're like, I think it's time. Like, I think it's time for you to switch. And I was like, no, I think it is too. Yeah, I definitely think it's time for a change. I think it's time for a rebrand. So we end up just switching and getting into it. And. Went from there. Here we are. What's the biggest piece of advice you would give your teenage self if you could sit a cross remark today?

My teenage self, let's see. Don't be too hard on yourself. Don't put too much faith into people. Be careful and just keep pushing. Stay strong kind of vibe, you know? Like, don't give up. Just keep going. The best thing I could say is like even some of my family members, we've cut off so many family members, friends.

We have just discovered so much about people, especially in the last few years. I've learned so much about people. And it's like, I just needed to lower my expectations of life. Like, I used to take it very hard sometimes because I'm a caring person that would care for people. And when it wasn't returned, it would really hurt. And it would almost like spiral me a little bit. And I learned over the last few years, like, don't put your faithfully into people. Like, yes, have faith, but don't take it so fucking hard.

Like, relax, you know? Life is life. It is what it is. is you're okay you're going to get there one way or another it might not be the fucking easiest route but you're going to get there for sure well christie i appreciate you taking the time to come out here and come on the show today no problem thank you for having me yeah love your energy and you know wish you all the best in the future thank you so much y'all too i appreciate it