Locked In with Ian Bick - I Was Caught Trafficking Drugs Overseas & Locked Up Abroad | LaTascia Taylor

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

LaTascia Taylor thought she had met her fairy tale. Charming. Successful. Confident. The kind of man who walks into your life and makes you feel seen. But what started as love quickly unraveled into manipulation, danger, and a criminal empire she never saw coming. What LaTascia didn’t know was that the man she fell for was running a major drug operation. And little by little, he pulled her in. First moving money across state lines… then transporting packages… and eventually flying internationally with drugs hidden in luggage. She found herself in way too deep — and on a flight to Europe, everything came crashing down. Arrested. In a foreign country. No support. No way home. And stuck for 2 years in an overseas prison. #truecrime #survivalstory #prisonstories #traumarecovery #toxicrelationships #drugtrafficking #lockedinwithianbick #secondchances Thank you to BLUECHEW & BRUNT for sponsoring this episode: BlueChew: Visit https://bluechew.com/ and use promo code LOCKEDIN at checkout to get your first month of BlueChew & pay five bucks for shipping. Brunt: $10 Off @BRUNT with code LOCKEDIN at https://www.bruntworkwear.com/lockedin  #BRUNTpod Connect with LaTascia Taylor: YouTube: Tea Talk With Tascia (@teatalkwithtascia) Facebook: Tea Talk With Tascia TikTok: Tea Talk With Tascia (@teatalkwithtascia) Website: https://a.co/d/f0iT6Nh Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Shop Locked In Merch: http://www.ianbick.com/shop Timestamps: 00:00 Her Story Begins: From Church Girl to the Streets 00:44 The Pastor Who Saw What She Couldn't 03:10 Generational Curses & Spiritual Warfare 04:52 Childhood Pain, Moving States, and Searching for Identity 07:10 Family Struggles, Survival Mode, and Growing Up Fast 10:09 College Dreams Collide with Real Life 13:10 Hospitality Career to Hustle Culture 16:45 The Strip Club Door That Changed Everything 20:27 How She Was Groomed Into Trafficking (Step by Step) 25:14 First Drops, Easy Money, and The Illusion of Control 33:07 From Moving Cash to Moving Product 40:04 The International Operation — Overseas Runs Begin 44:09 The Bust: Caught in Another Country 53:41 Life Inside a Foreign Prison — Culture, Fear, & Faith 01:07:00 Court, Sentencing, and the Fight to Come Home 01:20:10 Returning Home: Shame, Judgment, and Starting Over 01:33:05 Turning Pain Into Purpose — Youth, Ministry & Healing 01:41:41 Final Reflections — What She Wants Others to Know Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You talking to me? Kayak, got that right. It was really getting me comfortable with flying to this hotel, learning how to take a cat, You know, from the airport to the hotel. So how do you go from doing this to then eventually getting locked up overseas? This point detained in Martinique in a country where they speak French. I'm in a place now where you're taking showers outside. You know, their showers were like something when you go to like a beach or, you know, the pool.

There's no hot water and all the toilets sit in the floor. I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. This is one of those stories where it all starts with the wrong person, one relationship, one decision. and suddenly you're running money across the country and then flying drugs across the world. What happened to Latasha Taylor could happen to anyone. Latasha, welcome to Lockton. Thanks so much for coming on the show today. Thank you for having me.

Yeah, it's a pleasure. Thanks to Pastor Mark and his wife for connecting us. He was a guest of the show a few months ago. Yeah, a few months ago now and now we're here. Yes. So big thanks to him and make sure you guys check out his episode if you haven't already. And did he connect you to me or did you had already reach out to us? He connected me to you all. Definitely watched his interview and it was awesome.

Yeah, he's great. He definitely poured out a lot. You shared a lot. So very intimate and engaging interview. Yeah. How do you know, Pastor Mark? So I've known him for about four or five years now. He is my apostle. So I go to significant Revelation Church in Douglasville, Georgia. and so I met him through the ministry. And we've been connected ever since, you know, day one. He began to minister to me and just pour into my life.

And he spoke to things 20 years ago, to things currently happening at that moment and then to things in the future. So it was just like solid. And it just really opened a lot of doors, answered a lot of questions that I had, and just brought me, you know, up from a low place that I was in. So, yeah. That's awesome. And we'll have the link to his website and everything in the description of this episode.

He just wrote a book, too, him and his wife that just came out. Yes, it is awesome. And I actually have it here. Oh, cool. Deep deliverance. And this with Apostle Mark and Apostle Amber. So I tell anyone that if you're interested in deliverance, if you're interested in learning deliverance, if you're inquiring about it, if you feel like there's something off or

you're experiencing some type of warfare and you really don't have an understanding of it, a lot of churches do not speak or teach on deliverance or inner healing. So I encourage people get the book. It definitely will change your life and it will change the generations to come. So it's definitely what I call a generational curse breaker. And then it also opens up the generational blessings that people are like constantly praying for and not seeing or not experiencing because they don't realize that they're generational curses.

So this deep deliverance will definitely open doors, deliver. heal. It answers a lot of questions and it's a very educational book for deliverance. Yeah, and generational curses are such a big theme on our show. We see so many people that have battled addiction and even prison going through that and discussing it and how they were finally able to break that curse and get past it. Yes, because oftentimes if you look in your family, you'll see a pattern. The same way how we see good and positive patterns, you'll see negative patterns. You know, rather it be adultery, rather it be children born out of wedlock, rather it be parents having the same addiction, you know, are experiencing the same things. And people overlook it,

right? Like, that's just how it is. No, that's not how it is. That's a curse. Definitely a curse. And every family has one. Absolutely. Where do you grow up? So I'm originally from New Jersey. I don't have a northern accent anymore, I don't think, but originally born in New Jersey. and then moved back down south. My parents are originally from South Carolina, and so we moved back to, we moved to Georgia when I was probably like in middle school. And so I graduated high school in Georgia.

Initially, I didn't like it, hated Georgia, said once I graduated, I was going to, you know, move back up north, ended up graduating high school and staying in Georgia, where I still reside. Why did you guys leave New Jersey? They just wanted a better opportunity cost of living was really expensive and more so just the environment. I think, you know, at the point

that we were, I was getting older, they wanted us to be like a more family oriented, laid back environment and New Jersey was kind of fast-paced, you know, very close to New York, which was also definitely fast-paced. So George is definitely a different setting, right? But what I've learned is it really doesn't matter where you move, you know, you can still end up in certain spaces and places. And I think that's something that we tend to overlook. You know, if we live in the suburbs, then we'll keep our children from experiencing certain things. And that's not true. What do your parents do for work?

So my dad, he owned the construction company. So he built apartment complexes in hotels all over. My mother was into fashion and design. Did a lot of, she worked a lot of retail stores and has a degree in, um, design and arts. So just what I would call everyday average, you know, people trying to provide for their children, for their family. Would you say it was a good upbringing financially? Well, financially, we struggled a lot. My parents, you know, separated when I was very young. And it's ironic because both of my parents, even though they weren't together, they still ended up in Georgia, you know.

So, but my mom raised myself and I have a younger brother on that side and I have another brother or my dad's side, but we definitely struggled a lot financially, you know, growing up, especially, I would say, middle school and high school years. So I had the mindset, I would not struggle like that, you know, which was good and bad, you know, because at that point, I didn't know of it, but I was literally on the path to making money like an idol, right? And that's what got me, you know, in places and spaces that I shouldn't have been in. So how do you think the divorce affected you as a kid? So my parents actually did not get married.

They were never married. But I know with my mom and dad separating, you know, when I was very young and him being in and out, it definitely left the impact and open up the door for rejection. I definitely felt like I was fatherless, you know, because there would be long periods of time where I wouldn't see him or wouldn't speak to him, you know. And once I became of age, most of the time when I dated someone, they would be 10, 15, 20 years older than me. And I realized now I was really just looking to be fathered, you know. And even when I got into trafficking of money and drugs, it came from me being in a long-term relationship with someone that was like 21

years older than me. That was like a father to me to where, you know, I did. You know, I did. And what they said, how they said, when they said. And so it definitely played in effect. How would you describe yourself in your teenage years while you're in high school? You know what? So teenage years in high school, I never gave my mom hardly any problems. She would definitely say I was a good child overall growing up, very respectable, very kind. I had my cousins out of New Jersey, so they were the fighters. I would always say I was the love or not a fighter, you know, didn't use profanity. And I just kind of stayed, you know, under the radar. You know, if I skipped school, nobody would know because I was just kind of

cooled and laid back. So never, never a troubled child in that aspect, you know, definitely. My mom worked very hard to keep us in the, I guess, best area of Georgia or in the suburbs, you know, to make sure that we got a good education, right, where she definitely could have probably moved into, you know, the projects or some lower income areas to make it easier on her. So I definitely appreciate that now. But growing up, didn't really give my parents any problems. What were some values she instilled in you?

Work hard, you know, work hard. Be honest. You know, respect yourself, have respect for yourself. And I definitely, you know, tried to do that, definitely family oriented. My grandparents really instilled in me trusting God. And I spent a lot of summers with them. And that's where I really got my foundation from the church and my relationship, you know, with God. So just really believing him no matter what situation or circumstance that you're in, you know,

and treating people the way you want to be treated. That was a big thing. were you thinking about career-wise? Career-wise? So actually, I wanted to be an FBI agent. I loved The Silence of the Lamb, and I wanted to be like Clarice, you know. And so I went to school for a couple different things, in and out. First, I went to school for business management. Then I went to school for criminal law. And I said, okay, I'll be a police officer, you know, for the county that I live in for a couple of years. And then I definitely wanted to go to be an FBI agent, right? And I attended some classes, and I never forget one of the chief police had a conversation with me and said,

you know, hey, driving is a privilege, you know, not a necessity because I had so many speeding tickets. That was my one thing. I love to drive like fast little sports cars and I would speed and get tickets and I'd pay it like, whatever, you know, speed again, get another ticket, pay it. And they were like, you cannot be a cop without a license, you know, so you need just slow down. So I said, okay. So yeah. So you never ended up getting into the police to-in-law. So no, I did not get into law enforcement. I actually went in the opposite direction, unfortunately. So no. So do you end up graduating college? So nope, I did not complete college because I kept changing my major, right? And so I just started working in hospitality. I got

into working in hospitality and worked for, you know, various hotels in Atlanta and just grew, you know, worked my way up the ladder of the chain, so to speak, in that and enjoyed that for a while. How long did that go on for? I think I did that for about four years. I did hospitality for about four years. Looking back on it now, do you regret not pursuing law enforcement? I know you couldn't in that area, but maybe somewhere else? You know what? I, I, if I, a part of me regrets it, but I would not be who I am today.

However, I think if I did pursue it, then I could probably help some people along the way. But based on my thought process and where I was, I'm not even sure if I would have been, would have been a good agent or an honest agent, you know, because even though morals were instilled in me, I wasn't in that space and place at that time, you know. So I don't think anything is my accident. I feel like the classes that I took, the people that I met, and the experiences that I had helped shape who I am today. You know, so I do have a lot of respect for law enforcement.

I do have a lot of respect for people that, you know, work in that area in that field. I understand a lot of, you know, behind the scene things. So. Why do you think that was? Like, why did you have that mentality back then? Like that kind of like you were ready to cross that line. if given the opportunity? You know what?

I think it came from just being able to defend myself, being able to fight for myself, or not being a pushover, or not letting people, you know, take advantage of me. I think it was something inside that, you know, was trying to hide the rejection, you know, and the abandonment, right? And so it's almost like you have,

you're on the edge, you know, but what is really driving you to the edge, you know? And so I think the root of that was just abandonment and rejection and just trying to use the bad girl, a wildside image as a cover-up when that really was never who I was, you know. Who did you feel abandoned by the most? Was it your father? Definitely my father. Definitely my father. Definitely a heavy spirit of rejection there. He, he, He did very well at one period in his life. And I felt like he and his wife and my siblings on that side were living a great life while we were over here like suffering. You know, so I was like, okay, I won't wait on a man for anything. I'll just go out there and get it on my own, you know, by any means necessary, that type of attitude. And just really fighting for a level of independence.

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of like resentment or jealousy that like why couldn't they'd be together, my parents be together and not go off and make a new family? You know what? So I think I never had a sense of why couldn't my parents be together at that point, but there was definitely a spirit of jealousy. It does create a spirit of jealousy. And I think sometimes the parents don't realize that they're doing it. I don't think that it's always intentional. I think like with my dad, sometimes he would say, oh, you know, I just can't deal with your mom, right? But if you really want to be in your child's life or see your child, then you just have to deal with that parent. You know, so I see people that will intentionally stay away or sometimes people will intentionally keep the kid away. Well,

you're really not hurting the other adult. The person that's suffering is the child, right? And so for both of us, for both parents to be in the same state, maybe 45 minutes to an hour away, I definitely felt like, okay, regardless of what experiences or issues you may have had with my mom, you should have still been intentional about being active, you know, in my life, you know. And so it definitely causes an issue. And some parents, you know, co-parent very well. A lot of people co-parent very well. But that was not the case.

That was not the case. So what happens after working those four years in hospitality? So working in hospitality, I actually met a friend one day when I was working. and she told me she was going to a club over the weekend to make some extra money that she was going to do like a dance contest, right? To try to make some extra money and, you know, she wanted someone to go with her. So I said, okay, you know, I'll go with you, you know, I'm down. And I went with her to this club, not knowing, you know, we were going to a strip club and she was entering into the amateur strip club contest to make some extra money. and I was like, oh, okay, you know.

And so we did that. My friend did not win, you know. But that definitely intrigued me because I was like, hmm, this is a way to like make some quick cash. And then the next week she went to another one. And so we started, you know, doing that and engaging in that. And it's in a strip club where I met the guy that I began to date, who I ultimately started doing the trafficking for, right? And I did that for a number of years while I still did hospitality, you know, as a, I don't want to say a cover-up, you know, but I kept working my regular job

and then, you know, do this on days off and, you know, to make extra money, to make quick money, to be able to help out family or friends, you know. I blew a lot of it or gave a lot of it away to other people. Very giving person always have been, always will be. So tell us about your initial encounter with him, what that was like. So you know what? So I met him in a strip club and he asked me, what are you doing here? And he was not the first person. I had met another guy a couple of weeks prior to in the strip club. And he asked my name and he asked me, you know, what are you doing here? And I said, oh, I'm here, you know, with my friend or whatever. And he said, you do don't belong here. And I said, okay. And he said, I've already sold, sold my soul to the devil.

I have literally already sold my soul to the devil. But you still have a chance. You don't belong here. Right. I never forget. His first name was Reggie. I remember his name because I have a brother named Reggie. And I said, okay. You know, and then a couple weeks later, I meet this other guy. And he was like, what are you doing here? You don't belong here. So I gave the story about my friend. And he said, you, you don't belong here, right? And so we started hanging out.

And then he was like, you know, let me help you, you know, let me help you get yourself together. Let me help you with your finances. And he really presented himself as like that savior. He was like a savior to me. and which now I realize he was really grooming me, but he would take me shopping. He would buy me nice, you know, suits. So I got into wearing suits and just dressing very professional,

even down to, you know, what he recommended I would eat, the color of my nails, how I did my hair. And he just really began to groom me like a nice, resentable young lady. He told me that he was a professor. He told me that he owned a health and herbal shop, which he did own a shop, you know, but it wasn't the type of shop that I thought it was. And he actually had a ice cream shop that he partnered, you know, with someone with. And so for me, everything that he was doing was like legit.

And this was like a savior for me, you know. And so he helped me a lot and just really helped me establish myself from, of credit to saving money to just, you know, having this professional image. I moved up at work because now I'm presenting myself like a boss, right? And my self-esteem is high now when really he was just grooming me, you know, and I've learned since then. That's what they do. They target women either in college, around a college age group, or in, you know, different clubs. And then they casually make you over to where, you know, you would not look like anyone that would be doing anything illegal if you, you know, pass by someone of authority.

And were you living alone at the time? So I actually, when I first met him, I was living alone. And then I was doing so great, right? I had one of my friends moving with me. So I actually ended up with the roommate. And I, you know, she never got involved with trafficking with me. She was like, oh, no, I'm afraid. I was like afraid of what, you know?

It's like a done deal. And so I had a roommate and we just, you know, we're enjoying life in Georgia and Atlanta and hot Atlanta. Did she ever try to say, hey, you know, this doesn't seem like a good relationship, a good fit, something's off here? So she never said it wasn't a good relationship. Everyone that met him liked him, right? A few people were like, he's a little older. but even though he was like 21 years older than me, he probably only looked like he was like 10 years. So nobody really knew his age.

And he was always so giving. He was always so kind. So, you know, we thought he was great. My friends thought he was great. You know, my parents, my mom met him once. And she was like, I think he's a little older, you know. But that was about it. And my dad, I don't know that he ever met him.

but he did know that I was dating someone older. And I remember him saying, you know, a guy 20 years older does not have anything in common with you. They only want one thing. And I was like, oh, no, that's not true. We have a lot in common. And I, like, named all the things that we had in common. And my dad was like, you know. So he did try to warn me in that regard.

Like, no, yeah, I don't have anything in common, you know. And I said, no, he's not like that. He's not like that. But, yeah. Do you wish you listened to your dad now? I wish I listened to my dad. But of course my attitude was like, he's doing all the things that you didn't do. So you can't tell me nothing, right?

That was my attitude. I wish I would have, you know, when I was abroad, I, you know, wish at that point I had never gone with my friend to that club, you know. So when you just look at how the devil was so strategic about lining, things up because my friend got me to where we were hanging out at these clubs, but she stopped going, you know. So it's almost like when someone gives you your first drink or your first hit of a drug and then this person gets hooked, but then that person doesn't, right? So she's the one that introduced me to that and opened me up to that and then she checked out. So, yeah. How far into

you and his relationship, did he introduce something to you? It was probably, I would say, a good six months. But I realized all that time, though, he was grooming me because he traveled with me a little bit. So we went to some of those states and went to the different spaces and places. And he just made it seem like I was going along with him for work. but he was really getting me comfortable flying to this hotel, learning how to take a cab, you know,

from the airport to the hotel, and how to go to this mall. And so it was about a good six months. So he was training you to traffic, essentially. So he was training me to traffic. When's the first time he brings it up to you? What was that conversation? Well, he said to me, because, you know,

of course I had no idea that's what he did, right? So he was like, hey, I need you to pick up something for me. So I said, okay, he said someone's bringing a package for me into the airport and they're just going to, you know, come out, hand it to you and leave. I said, okay, no problem. You know, so I pulled up, you know, waited at the airport. Lady comes out, hands me the suitcase. I throw it in the trunk. I go, I don't think anything of it. Like, I don't care what it is. I'm thinking maybe it's his clothes. Like, it just never even dawned on me. Then another time he had me meet someone. And my first thought was, is this like another girlfriend? Do you have somebody else out of town? I wasn't even thinking about what I was picking up, you know? And then finally one day he asked me, could I, you know, fly out to California to pick up something for him?

Sure, no problem. And it wasn't until I got to California until he told me, hey, I'm going to give you a suitcase. and, you know, need to keep it with you. When you get to check in, you're going to check in outside with it. You're going to tip those guys really well, okay? And they're going to make sure your suitcase gets to the other side. You cannot miss your flight, right? Because we have certain agents that are working that's going to look out for this luggage, you know?

So that's when I realized, okay, like, what's in the luggage to where, you know, certain agents or certain people are looking out for it. And then it got to where, so I did, you know, I took that through the first time and it was money. I found out, you know, it was money. And I did that several times. Well, one day I missed my flight. You know, I was late. And he was having a fit. You know, he was like, just cancel it, just cancel it. because they even knew the schedules that the drug dogs, the canines would be coming through. So they knew what hour and what times and what days they were off. They had the whole schedule.

So they wanted you to travel during those shifts when they weren't there. So that's why it was imperative that you could not be late or miss a flight, you know? And so that's when I realized, okay, this is like there's something happening here or something going on here. because he is like live it and I've never seen him this upset. So that's when I started, you know, paying attention. And when I would get back, he would give me money, but he always gave me money. So if he gave me two or $3,000 and this time he gave me $5,000, then another time he gave me $10,000. And that's when I realized, okay, you're moving money, you know? And then when I started moving drugs, he didn't tell me.

He said because he didn't want me to be nervous. Just like when I started picking up cash, he didn't tell me because he didn't want me to be nervous. So it was one of those things. Now if he told you that you were picking up cash, would you have when? If he told me I was picking up cash, I probably would have still gone because I was so comfortable with him. And at that time, you know, I'm in my 20s. I'm not aware of money laundering, you know, I don't even know that picking up cash is illegal, right? Sometimes they would have it shipped in a box.

Sure, you can ship a package to my house. It's no big deal. If you said you want to ship a package and we're friends, ship it. You know, I'm not even thinking that it's something illegal in the package because I trust you. Right? And if you ask me to ship a package for you, while I'm running errands, why not? You know, so I definitely would have still done the money because I didn't think that it was anything wrong with it. And you didn't think it was strange that he wanted you to fly halfway across the country to pick something up and like maybe say, hey, what about FedEx or UPS?

So you know what? He said that, you know, their business was going so well. Like once I realized, okay, I'm moving cash now. Their business is going so well. They're just trying to avoid paying taxes. Uncle Sam, you know, always wants to get, you know, keep up with all your money to get. taxes and they were our he was a rostafarian so they were really big on their culture and not dealing with you know uncle sam and not you know paying taxes and taking care of their community so if this shop over here made x amount of dollars and we needed to move this money to this shop and you're going to pay me and we don't have to pay uncle sam why not right that's how naive in how gullible I was at that time, you know, it was like, well, why not? I guess on the offset or the onset, it makes sense because they don't want to use the banks or whatnot,

so it's a plausible excuse. Right, right. Like, we don't want to pay taxes, you know? So I was like, okay, you know, I understand that. Like, I get that part, you know? And so that made sense to me. But as things escalated, then I realized, okay, these are not just ice cream shops. these are not just your everyday herbal shops, right?

There's more happening here, you know? And then that's when we got into, okay, it's hemp. And I remember I did a research paper on hemp. And I was like, okay, wait a minute. I know what hemp is, you know? So it was one of those things where once I realized what I was into, because of who I was dealing with and the level of trust I had for them and how much they share with me to confirm that I would not have an issue, I would not get caught,

I was not in any type of danger, you know, I just became more comfortable with it. And, you know, after you do something a couple times, the enemy will make you think, you're good, you're safe, we got you, right? Your bills are paid, you know, if your mom needs something, you got it. Your brothers need something, you got it. you can give to the church, right? Because you got it. You got it.

And even looking back, if somebody needed to borrow money and I gave them money in all fives or all tens, nobody questioned it. And I said they probably thought I was stripping, you know, but nobody questioned it. I feel like now where I met in my life, if someone brought me money like that, I would say, okay, well, why is it all fives or why is it all tens? Nobody ever questioned it. Tell us about the first time you realized you were trafficking. And drugs.

So the first time I realized I was trafficking drugs, I was in California. And I took a friend. I got one of my friends. I convinced one of my friends to go because he was like, you need to try and get some friends that can help work with us and make some money. And I convinced one of my friends to go and we decided we would get our hair done while we were out there. And we got these wild hairstyles. And when he picked us up, he like flipped.

Like he lost it. And I was like, it's hair. And we spent like four or five hundred dollars. You know, we're in California. We're just living in life. And he's like, but you can't look like that in travel. I'm like, look like what? You know, he said like that.

And he was just very upset. So we stayed an extra day and we got our hair done again to take out what we did because we had to have this image. And then that's when I realized, okay. we're not just moving money. And my friend was like, I think we're moving more than money. And, you know, he was like, okay, at this point, you're moving marijuana. So we had these massive black suitcases with locks.

And they just had marijuana that was packed, you know, coming from California down to Georgia and to Florida, South Carolina, or whatever other states they would, you know, take it to once we got it here. So I was like, okay. So even then, you know, that first time I think I was upset, but I realized I was already doing it and thought I was still moving money and I was actually moving drugs at that point, you know. But once again, they've convinced me you can't get caught. We know the airline stewardess. We know what pilots are flying. We know when, you know, the drug dogs are there.

You know, we've got this schedule like lockdown. Now. Did he actually know that? They actually didn't know that. Okay. So there were an intricate system? Yeah, they're an intricate system and they actually didn't know that because there were times when, you know, rumor has that they had, you know, flight attendants that would move stuff. There were different security guards that would move stuff because they worked on the back end and knew, you know, the ins and outs.

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Order today and let them know you heard it here on the show. It's got to be pretty scary as the passenger transporting it, sitting on that plane, getting off the plane just half expecting the feds or whoever to just swarm you because they got the bag. So you know what? The reason why they don't tell you when you start carrying the drugs is because they want you to get comfortable. And see, I never really knew that it was a crime to carry money, right? So by the time I realized I was carrying the drugs, the first time I was like, oh, my gosh, right? But after you do something a couple times, then you sit back and you're like, I'm untouchable, right?

I looked apart, you know, I'm just traveling for business. You stand there and wait for your luggage to come down the line. you pay someone to get your luggage off. They take it out to the car. You tip them well and you leave. And so that's where the cockiness and arrogance starts to kick in. And you think we've got this lockdown. How much did he pay you per trip?

And did he pay you more for when you were actually doing the drugs rather than the money? So he probably got over on me because sometimes they would say it was money and it could have been drugs. Sometimes I think it was drugs and it could have been money. So it got to where you didn't really know what you were carrying, right? And it would just depend on where I was going. Sometimes it was 5,000.

Sometimes it was 10,000. So for me, that was huge because it would take me five or six months to make that kind of money, you know, or three months working two jobs to make that kind of money. So that was like really big money to somebody in their 20s. You know, I could make that in three days. Go to California today, come back in three days, and I've got. that kind of money. Once you are fully entrenched in this, how is your guy's relationship? Was it still like how it was when you first met, or did you back off and it's strictly

transactional? So it got a little rocky because I found out he was, you know, seeing other people in other states and places where he was doing the same thing because he was moving it from, you know, different states. And he was just repeating that in those other places, you know. so it got to where I was like, okay, well, then we can just do business. This is just, you know, strictly business. Then, you know, after some of my friends were like, you know, I think you need to really stop doing this. Just, you know, focus on your career, you know, maybe complete school or whatever. I kind of like fell back from it a little bit.

And I remember having a moment like, God, if this is not for me, just remove him, right? and God did remove him. But I circled back, you know. And when I say I circled back, at some point he reached back out to me, at some point I reached back out to him, and we reconnected again when I should have, you know, left it alone.

But I did not. What do you think it was for you? Was it the money? Was it the thrill of it? Was it the lifestyle? What kept you going on? It was a combination of things. I think it was a part of it.

of being needed. Even though he had disappointed me as far as the relationship goes, you know, he was still a person that I had a certain level of respect for because he really fathered me in a sense, right? And so a part of it was just being needed. A part of it was feeling like, you know, you were respected. And then when you have money, it gives you a sense of power. You know, it gives you a sense of security, right? So it was a combination of those things. So I never,

I still had not dealt with rejection issues. I still had not dealt with abandonment issues. I still had not dealt with low self-esteem. And so all of these things, just the money covered those things. You know, it covered those things. So how do you go from doing this to then eventually getting locked up overseas? Because it sounds like in the beginning you were just doing stuff interstate. Right. So I was just doing stuff interstate. Failed back from him, had not spoken to him in a while. And, you know, he reached back out and he was like, do you have a passport? And I was like, no. He's like, we get a passport. I want to, you know, take you on vacation. I want to take you out of the country, get a passport. Well, I didn't know anything about a passport, didn't know how to get a

passport. I had to find my birth certificate, my social security card, my birth certificate. I remember it was all crumbled up. Back then, you filled out the application and you had to mail your original certificate and social security card off with a copy of your ID and all of that. And my birth certificate was so bad, they mailed it back to me and said we cannot use this. And I realized now that was God saying, no, okay? And we're talking weeks, you know, so he's like, you know, patiently waiting on me to get this while he's doing whatever he's doing, but he's keeping in touch with me and, you know, kind of pulling me back in. So I had to apply for a new birth certificate, wait for that to come back in.

A couple more weeks went by. Then I finally got that. Mailed off, you know, for the passport again. And then finally now, you know, my passport comes. And I'm sure at least a good six months has passed, right? And he was like, you know, I'd like to, you know, go on vacation with you, take you out the country, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So we book a trip to, um,

St. Lucia, he ends up not coming, right? So he does not come. And I end up in St. Lucia with another group of ladies, not knowing that they were there for the same thing that I was there for, which was trafficking. And at that point, we were not trafficking marijuana or money. We were trafficking liquid cocaine. And of course, I didn't know that, you know. So I'm in St. Lucia. I'm supposed to be there. I think four days. I end up being there seven days. And, you know, he's having somebody else explain to me that he wants me to, you know, bring this package, right? Okay. So now I'm used to getting whatever package and coming back home. Well, they want this package to go to England. So I have traveled from Atlanta, Georgia to St. Lucia. I'm on this island. And then I'm

supposed to be getting this package from this island and traveling to England. I'm like, are you crazy? But now I'm here and it's like I'm stuck, you know, because I had a one-way ticket there, didn't realize that. So it was things like that where it's like, how could I be so naive or so stupid, right? So we get ready to go and they give me these little juice boxes. It's like, dozens of these, have you seen like the little kids have like the little high seed juice boxes of like apple juice or different little juices. And so they're giving me cases of those to take along with like different fruits and stuff. Like I'm going to go visit somebody in England with these cases. And they said, you don't have to worry about, you know, the dogs or security or

anything because of what it's aligned with, a dog can pass you and it won't smell it. And sure enough, when I was in the airport, a dog passed me and never barked, did not smell it, right? So I go from this little plane in St. Lucia, and then I fly over to Martinique, and then we go from Martinique, and I'm heading to England. It's supposed to be a straight flight. So I go through customs in St. Lucia. I go through customs in Martinique, no problem. I get on this flight and I'm headed to England.

Okay. In the midst of it, they come across the air. They're speaking French. I don't know what they're saying, but they are stopping this flight. So they didn't turn the flight around. They land the flight like in another island, right? So we land in this. Island and they're looking for this African-American woman with a bow. I had a bow. I was dressed,

you know, very nice, professional with my hair pulled up with a bow. And they had all of us get off the plane and we get off the plane and then they asked me to step out. And then that's when I realized they stopped the plane for me. Okay. So back in Martinique, they had stopped someone else that had those same containers. And from my understanding, some days prior to that, somebody else had stopped someone with those same containers. So this woman that was traveling with somebody that had gotten arrested before for drug trafficking.

And her record, I guess, was in the system. So they were like, oh, we need to check her. And they checked her. And they said, well, we just let somebody else through with these same containers, which is what made them literally stop this plane. Wow, so they remembered that they saw those containers. The customs guys remember a girl just got on the plane headed to England with these same containers. And they called and they stopped that plane.

Now, did he have you transport drugs from the U.S. to St. Lucia or no? No. So you were there on vacation. Right. And, you know, because they're making all the liquid cocaine is made in those warm climate countries. And he had ties to get it all that he wanted it in England? Yes. This was like a really big worldwide type operation.

Yeah. Now, you didn't think it was a red flag at all that he didn't come on the trip for the vacation like you were going by yourself? So once I realized he wasn't coming, he goes, oh, I'll meet you there. And then I realized he was not meeting me there. At that point, it was a red flag. Okay. You know, I realized it was never about us having a vacation. It was about him getting me to do this.

So I was like, you know what? I'll do this. and I'm done. Like, I'm done. I'm never doing this again and I'm never talking to him again because at that moment I felt like this is bad.

Like something's going to go wrong here. It was not a good feeling. Do you think a lot of your actions were based on the love you had for him? Absolutely, because initially I was like definitely in love with him. Definitely, you know, in my mind was like one day I'll marry him.

One day I'll have kids with him. didn't want to do it then, you know. But in the future, I was like, I'll definitely marry him and have, you know, kids. I remember we had a conversation because he actually got someone pregnant. And he was like, well, I asked you to have children and you were like, no. And I was like, yeah, I'm in my 20s. I'm not having kids right now, you know. But I thought that we would get, you know, married later on and have kids later on. He was like, do you know how old I am? Like, how much time do you think I have? you know, so definitely was head over heels in love with him, you know, because he like really took care of me and he really taught me a lot, you know, about finances. He taught me a lot just about,

you know, how to provide for yourself and how to take care of yourself and, you know, just what I feel like, how to act like a young lady, right? So definitely. So there was nothing that he could ask me to do that I would not do, which is why I went through all those lints to get a passport, which is why I went out of the country thinking he'll be there, okay, he's not here, when really I should have gotten on the plane and came back home. But because it was him, I was like, I'll do it. So they pull you off the plane, what happens? So they pull me off the plane, and they want to start going through my things,

and they're like, you know, Do you know what this is? You know, where'd you get this from? And I was like, oh, I just got it so I can take it, you know, to family in England. Who's your family in England? What's their name? What's the address? So, of course, I didn't have, like, any of that information.

Who did you get this from? I don't have any of the information of who I got it from, right? Because I don't know these people, things are just being passed to me. And so, and I remember that night, while they were talking to me, they were trying to like interrogate me, I kept falling asleep. I kept falling in sleep. And so they were like, she must be on some drugs, you know. So when she goes to the bathroom, we need to watch her and see if she's passing anything or whatever. I wasn't on drugs. I think just from the shock of it, my body was shutting down. So I just, I couldn't even stay awake for the interrogation.

You know, so I think the fear was making me go to sleep. So they put me in a cell, and that was my first time, you know, ever being in a cell or whatever. And the next day, they said, okay, we're going to transport you back to Martinique. You know, they said, but you're getting ready to do 20 years because you have how many millions of dollars worth of street value of cocaine? You know, you're getting ready to do 20 years. And I was like, I'm not getting ready to do 20 years. You know, I'm thinking of myself, they don't know who I am. you know, and who I know. Like, I am not getting ready to do 20 years, right? So they transport me

back to Martinique. And that's when I encountered the other Americans that they stopped in the airport. And that's when, you know, I get to go in front of the judge. And in the meantime, you know, my family's looking for me because I'm not responding, you know, they can't find me or whatever. And I never forget, I had a conversation with the judge and she said to me, you know, how do you feel about breaking up homes, you know, destroying marriages, you know, killing people's mothers and fathers and children? How do you feel? I was like, I don't do drugs. You know, I don't even smoke. Like, I don't smoke. I don't drink. I don't do drugs. I didn't put. I don't smoke. I don't drink. I don't do drugs. I didn't put. a gun to anyone's head. So what do you mean? How do I feel? I don't feel any kind of way because I don't have any control over that.

So I am not responsible for anyone's home, you know, being broken up or anyone dying or having any issues. You know, if they're taking drugs, it's because of them. So she said, oh, really? She said, okay, well, I'm going to let you sit and think on that. And maybe the next time I see you again, you'll have a better. response for me. And I was thinking to myself, this lady's crazy. You know, I'm not sitting anywhere. I'm going to call my folks and be out of here. Well, I sat for two years before I saw that judge.

And so I was, you know, at this point detained in Martinique, in a country where they speak French. People know very little English. You know, I took French in high school. I took Spanish in high school. I don't remember any French or Spanish. And they were the same way. They took a little been an English here or there. They didn't remember anything. So here I am being detained in another country. You do not get a phone call. Okay. They're like when a, when a missionary comes to see you, you can ask them for some paper and, you know, see if they'll mail you a family a letter or something. The food is completely different. I'm in a place now where you're taking showers outside. You know, their showers were like that something when you go to like a beach or, you know, the pool, there's no hot water, you know, and all the toilets sit in the floor.

I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. Right. I was like, I'm an American and y'all need to let me go. No, you're an American and you brought drugs into our country. You're going to sit for 20 years. How do you even use the bathroom when it's on the floor like that? Right. You have to squat.

And so I was literally like sitting on the floor because I was like, I don't even know how to squat, you know. Is it a dirt floor? Is it concrete? It's concrete, but the toilet is like down in the floor. You know, I was like, what in the world? I'm like, how do I shower? Do you shower outside? They have a little shower and it's outside so everyone can see you shower.

And do they give you uniforms or you stuck with the clothes you were there? You are stuck with the clothes that you have on or clothes. Like I think I wore the same clothes for like a week. they have missionaries that come in from the church and they would donate or bring you clothes until your family can bring you, you know, something. Of course, the food was completely different. You know, it was like an egg for breakfast, an egg for dinner,

salad. I mean, I lost probably 95 pounds while I was there. Was the food good, like good quality? It was now looking back, it was probably healthy, you know. But I was like, we eat eggs for breakfast, We eat eggs for dinner, you know, we eat rice. They ate their heaviest meal during lunch, you know, but it was still food that, you know, the inmates cooked. Of course, I was on the women's side and they had a men's side and the men cooked the food.

So I was like, I don't want anything that men are cooking in jail. You know, I'm just not eating. Then they were like, you'll just starve. Okay, well, then I'll just starve, you know. So it was like that type of attitude. So I was in about a good 30 days, I became very humble, you know. Were the women that you that got arrested to with you from America? So the women that got arrested were not with me.

I did not know them until that moment. But it kind of helped me because they were from New York. I was, you know, out of Atlanta. And, of course, they put us, you know, all together. So they just felt like we were all from New York. The women in the prison were a little bit afraid of us because they looked at New Yorkers as being crazy. I think they thought that we were all, you know, from the movie like New Jack City. That was what they would compare us to, right?

There's a character in that movie named Tasha. My name is Tasha. So they were like, oh, she's just like the person in the movie. And I'm like, I'm now, you know, but whatever. Also, power has Tasha too. Yes. I was like, oh, my goodness, these characters, right? And so they definitely just lumped us all together.

Initially, I did not want to be included with them, you know, but they were the ones that spoke English that I could relate to. And that's when I realized they were the ones that was with the other lady that had been arrested prior to. And I'm like, you're the reason why we're arrested. You know, you're the reason why they caught on or went the extra mile to look and see what you had. And I was the youngest person there.

You know, most of the people in there were in their 30s and 40s. They were there for unlifing people with, I don't know if we can say this word, voodoo. And that's when I really learned and got a clear understanding of praying for things seen and unseen because they operated heavy in witchcraft. I just heard about witchcraft from friends that were Haitian or Jamaican, but I had never experienced any witchcraft. I didn't know about witchcraft. Well, they told me all you got to do is take a bath and milk. It's going to make you white and the judge is going to release you. I was like, okay, how do I take a bath in milk?

You know, I took a bath in milk thinking I would be white and the judge would be blinded and say that I was pure and clean and innocent and release me. Well, that did not work for me, okay? But it worked for other people. Other people that were guilty, they would do all different types of things and it worked. You know, there was a lady that was having a conversation with someone where she needed some money. They went and dug up a person's, you know, head from a cemetery and buried it some to this other space and place and got this money. So they were doing all kinds of things that I just heard of or we just saw movies up.

No, it was happening. Like, I was in the midst of it. And I was like, what in the world? So at that point, I realized you may need to ask for a Bible because it's a whole other ballgame going on here. And it's not even about them thinking you're this big, bad person from New York. These people do witchcraft and voodoo and kill you in your sleep. You know, that's the type of activity that they had going on. How old were you at that point?

I was 24. And what year was this? This was 1994. Okay, so this is before 9-11 and TSA. And this is way different time period. Right. Yes. And so things have changed, but there's still, there's always someone.

You know, there's always, no matter how tight your system is, there's still always someone. So if they didn't give you a phone call, couldn't hypothetically no one ever figure out that you're over there? So let me tell you how they found me. So my mom started calling my roommate at the time and she's like, hey, you know, where is she? You know, where is she? where is she right and um she's like i don't know i don't know so she starts calling um the boyfriend and his name is actually in his name was actually in and she started calling the boyfriend like where is she and he was like i don't know it's like she never made it with the package she never made

it to england i don't know you know we're trying to call around we can't get any information she said well you need to say something to her mom because this girl's mom is looking for her because now we're like two weeks in right so my mother finally calls my dad and says hey this girl's missing she went out of the country you know supposed to be with some guy um he didn't go again i think she got caught up with some people they don't know if i was dead alive or what right because it's like i just literally disappeared off of the face of the earth whenever you wrote a letter a letter it took um two weeks, you know, for a letter to get to the States. So now you're talking like a month, right? So my dad had a brother that worked for the CIA. So my dad called that brother, and that brother was like,

let me see if I can find her in the system. And lo and behold, my passport pops up as being scanned in Martinique. And so they reached out to the American Embassy there. And the American Embassy confirmed, that, yes, I have been detained there, and they send someone from the American Embassy to see me and confirm, yes, I just saw her. She has been detained. This is what's happening. And was the embassy able to give you, like, clothes and anything like that? So the embassy, they, he gave me like, I think an outfit, I think he gave me like some sneakers. I never forget I had some all-star sneakers, you know. He gave me a Bible, you know. He gave me paper. pencils, he gave me stamps, envelopes.

So they gave me things like that. So a guy from the American Embassy would come and see me, you know, every couple of weeks, you know, just to check on me to make sure, you know, I was being treated fairly and to report, you know, back to my family. How are the guards there? The guards, they were, they were a little rude. They were a little rude. they felt like Americans thought they were better than, you know, we had like we were better than them.

And we did come in with that attitude. At least I know I did, right? Because I didn't think I was going to be there. I was like, y'all can't detain me. I'm an American, you know. And so we did come in with an edge. And so they gave us that same energy, you know. They were not physically abusive, you know, but they were verbally abusive. abusive and you have people screaming at you in a language that you don't know and they're like learn the language figure it out well how can I figure it out you know do y'all have a class here well there's no class you know so we finally found there was another prisoner in there um that knew knew some english and she was trying to teach us some french if we would help her with her english just so that we could try to

communicate you know so that was the most frustrating thing um is, you know, you're just sitting there, you know, all day. You get one hour to walk outside and you're just there. No attorney, no phone calls, no nothing. It's not, you know, like the American system at all. Eventually, my dad did secure an attorney through the American embassy for me, and she actually came from France, you know. So she flew over and that's how I had some representation there.

And she was like, I spoke to the judge and she said she asked you a question and this was your response. Did you really say that? And she said, well, yeah, because I said, you know, she didn't ask me about what I was doing. She asked me about the effects of it. Like, I was responsible for that, you know. So that just kind of went left field. And so, yeah. And do they make you work there?

So they make the men work. They do not make the women work because there's nothing for the women to do. We had to clean, you know, we had to clean that, they call it a pod. So we had to clean that pod that we were in, you know, the entire time. So we did have to do that. But as far as like physical work, no. But the men did go out throughout and work. And I think they even left out sometimes and worked on the island because it was an actual island that we were on.

But no. The bathrooms that were on the ground were they, did it have plumbing or no plumbing? So they had plumbing, you know, so they did flush, but you were just. So strange why they wouldn't even. Sitting on the ground. Yeah. And a lot of countries, now that I've vacationed some, when you go to certain places and you actually use their restrooms, some of the toilets are like that. I remember going to Cuba.

And even when I was in St. Lucia, a lot of times the hotels would have the ones that were like our regular toilets, but they also have the ones that are like on the floor, you know. And then some of them would just have the ones that were on the floor. So I do realize that. But it's one thing when you're just using it in the restaurant when you're traveling versus that's your everyday life, right? So that was like a little traumatized that for me. When does the anger set in that that guy got you there, that you're there because of him? So the anger set in when I spoke to my attorney. So now months have passed and, you know, I'm getting angry because I realize I'm not going home.

No one's coming to get me. Like nobody can bail me out. Like I can't be bonded out. like you're not leaving and everybody's telling me oh you're getting 20 years right I'm like I cannot sit here for 20 years you know and so I've you know written my mom I've written my friend my I finally get a letter back from my friend who was my roommate at the time that's like you know he says he's nothing he can do you know um he can try to you know give your family you know some money to help pay for an attorney, but he's pretty much like hands off, right? And so it's like, you're just going to leave me here,

you know, which is essentially what he did. And so that's when the anger set in, you know, after I'd been there probably for about three months. And I think the shock wore off, you know, in reality started kicking in that you're going to sit here for a minute, you know. So the attorney was like, I'm going to try to get you another, you know, opportunity to get in front of the judge. And the American, the representative from the American embassy was like, I'll try to, you know, fight on your behalf as well and, you know, see what we can do to help get you out of this situation. But, you know, they do not like foreigners coming over to their country and, you know, bringing these things in their country. So my defense was, well, this stuff is from their country.

So I don't know why they're acting on high and mighty because most of the people. Most of the people here that have money is from drugs. You know, these warm climate countries are the ones that are transporting the drugs to England, to, you know, the United States. So I don't understand how they're so offended. So I was angry, but I was still with an attitude, right? And he was like, it doesn't matter. You know, the point is, is you're in their country and you came over to their country to do something elite. legal. Okay. So that's when things started kicking in. You would have thought they would have

just had to go to England and have them bust you in England, but you'd probably be worse off if it landed in England. So let me tell you, so God was in this the whole time because had I gone to England, I definitely would have gotten 10, 15, 20 years. 100%. Different people that I ran across over the years that ended up in England. definitely got the 10, 15, 20 years. I definitely would not have been out in two years. And in England, the prison was somewhat like our system. It was not like the one on the island. On the side where the men were, I think it was more like our system. But where the women were, we were just sitting there, you know, but it wasn't like we were experiencing a lot of,

you know, physical abuse. If anything, it was more mental abuse because psychologically, you know, you're used to going and moving and staying busy and now it's like you are just locked down, you know. There's TV, but it's in French. There's music, but it's in French. You know, there are no books. You know, I finally got a Bible, you know, and I think the first one I got was in French. So I finally got one, you know, later on that was in English, you know, not being used to the food, but in England, I would have definitely gotten those years. In England, I would have definitely experienced, you know, probably violence, you know, high level of abuse, you know. So it was definitely a different ball game there. So I feel like when they intercepted that plane, because at first it was like, wow, y'all stopped a plane just for me. You turned the plane around just for me.

you know, but it was God saying, let me save this chick, you know, because she has no idea what's in for her, you know. So, yeah. You know, the American justice system is so corrupt. But when you hear stories like this, it makes you appreciate the American justice system because the fact that you're not the first person I've had on that got locked overseas where the judge will, you won't see a judge for two years. Yeah. Like the court did just get, it's not existent. Yep. And in what I learned, like the judge and the attorney I had, even though I was in Martinique, those people didn't live there. They were from France. Okay. But that island, half of it was Martinique and half of it was St. Martin. So half was owned by England and the other half was by France. And so they would fly back to their country. And they would just fly in when they had a case. I'm like, what? You know? And so that's why you would sit a year or two years. You know. And so that's why you would sit a year or two.

years, you know. And so my dad did come over to see me. My mom came to see me. My dad was, you know, negotiating, going back and forth, you know, with the courts and, you know, with the attorney and with the American embassy and with his brother, trying to do everything just to get me another court date just to get me out. And so God definitely did that because that system would just let you sit, sit without knowing, you know, what the future holds. And so that's when I really begin to exercise, you know, my faith because at that point, that was all I had. You know, I was like, I'm just going to die here, you know.

I'm like, there's no way I can survive here, you know, 20 years. I'll starve to death, you know. So, yeah, so it was very, um, easy. At least when you're in this country, you know what your time is. But there you're like a sitting duck. So what happens at that court date? So I go, I finally go to court, you know, and that same judge asked me that same question again. It's like she wrote it down. I'm like, you've got to be kidding me, you know. And at that point, I just broke because I had two years to really. And I had two years to really think. Yes, you are contributing to, you know, families being ruined because you are contributing

to addictions, right? And addictions lead to death. Addictions, you know, lead to suicide. It leads to murder. It leads to prostitution. It leads to robbery. Because people do anything, you know, for a hit when they're, you know, addicted. Addiction does break up marriages, you know. Addiction does destroy families. And so during my time of sitting there, you know, and really re-establishing my relationship with God, then I really got to see, you know, that my focus was definitely on just myself, you know, and really I had a high spirit of greed, you know. Money was my altar or my God, you know, and that was definitely at the top of my list.

And so when she asks that question again, you know, the tears just begin to flow. And, you know, I apologize. You know, I'm sorry for anyone that's ever, you know, been affected by anything that I've ever done, you know, knowingly or unknowingly, anything that I, you know, any role that I played, you know, in this situation and circumstance and, you know, all of that. And so she was like, okay, you know. And so I was just like, whew. And so even at that moment, though, after I had. that moment with her, I still didn't know what she, what her, what her decision was, right? A guard told me they're going to let you go home, but that judge never said anything.

Then when I went to court, the other Americans that were there, they never went to court. They never spoke to a judge. It was just me. And it was almost like I represented them. And a part of me wanted to represent them, but then a part of me didn't want to represent them. but then a part of me didn't want to represent them, you know. But when they released me, it's like days later they also released them, you know. And it was based off of the interaction that my family and my dad and, you know, my mom and the

attorney had with that system. Of course, there was a hefty fine that was paid. So, you know, the cocky stuff. side or arrogant side was like, well, we could have gave you that money, you know, two years ago, right? But there was definitely a fine that was paid. It's like you almost like you had to pay for the amount of time that they had to take care of you, you know. So they paid that. And then it's like days later, they began to, you know, let us go. So did they end up convicting you or nothing? So the way the records go, I was detained for two years.

and I have no record. Are you allowed to travel there? I'm allowed to travel, you know. When I started traveling again, it was really funny because I would, you know, travel with family or friends or church groups and stuff. And at one point, whenever I got to the scanner, I always got pulled to the side. My luggage always got checked. Even when I checked in a luggage, I could tell that they had opened it up and went through it.

And friends would say, why are they always picking on you? Why are they always checking your stuff, you know? And I would never say anything. I would just sit there like, girl, only if you knew. You know, because at this point, I'm in management. I'm an investment. I'm, you know, in ministry. And I just haven't said anything. But my passport, you know, everything is fine. And that's why I said that was God because there are other people that have traveled in other countries where they've taken their passport. Okay. They cannot get another passport or they cannot go to a French country or they, you know, will still have. have something show up on their record. I've worked with investment groups where I'm bonded, and I have no record because they don't just check this country. They check, you know, internationally because of the investors. And there's nothing on my record. And I know that was

nothing but the grace of God. I know people that cannot vote. This episode is brought to you by Redfin. You're listening to a podcast, which means you're probably multitasking, maybe even scrolling home listings on Redfin, saving homes without expecting to get them. But Redfin isn't just built for endless browsing. It's built to help you find and own a home. With agents who close twice as many deals, when you find the one, you've got a real shot at getting it. Get started at redfin.com. Own the dream. Because they have that on their record. That was nothing but God. You probably raced to get off that island. Let me tell you, I race to get off that island. right? And I said I wanted to go back there for ministry purposes. And I haven't actually gone back

to Martinique, but I have gone to St. Martin on a cruise. And I was like, hmm, I should take an excursion across there, you know, but I was like, no, I'll let it go. But I said, I do want to go there for ministry because one of the things, while I was there, a lot of the people there would ask me, you know, you're from America and I'd say yes. And they would say, can you tell me, about the gospel because either they were, they would practice voodoo or either they were into Catholicism. And I was like, you want to know about the gospel. And they would ask me about different pastors or preachers that they had seen on TV. Well, at that time, I wasn't really into my word. You know, I would go to church when I felt like it. And I felt like when I did show up,

God and the pastor should be grateful that I came. Right. And so that was an opportunity where I could have ministered to people and pour into people. And at that moment, I couldn't because I was so empty and so disconnected. So as time went on, I began to, you know, share different things with them. And I would ask my mom and my family to send different things from those different ministries that I could share with them. But I could tell that they had a hunger for something outside of what they were doing. They knew that it was something outside of what they were doing. And then just based off of how God kept me in that place, they began to see, I want this God. this girl is praying to, I want to look at this Bible the way that she is looking at this Bible.

You know, so I do want to go back there and do another level of ministry because it was nothing but prayers that got me out of there in two years versus 10 or 20. It's nothing but prayers that kept me where I didn't have any illnesses or anything because there were no doctors or hospitals or anything like that. it was nothing, you know, but prayers that allow me to leave out there and not have anything, you know, on my record that would hinder me, you know. I had like one physical altercation while I was there. And, you know, my thing was I'm a love and not a fighter.

So I'm like, please, you know, I'm trying to get along with everyone. I want to be non-confrontational. Why do you want to mess with me, you know? But I knew enough to know, okay, if you have to fight somebody in here, you better make it count, right, so that you don't have to have any more issues. So I am, I am not a fighter. I am not a fighter. However, when I got done that day, I ended up seven days in solitary confinement. And then the people on the outside, my new nickname was Mike Tyson, you know. I was like, why Mike Tyson, you know? And, and, and, but what

happened is really, I think I was just so fed up. I was just, just so devastated. I was just so hurt. It's like I snapped, you know, because I was like, I'm not a street fighter, you know. So I was kind of shocked like, okay, you know, you got some skills. My cousins always fought for me, you know, but I just snapped that day, you know, and I ended up apologizing to that young lady, you know, later, but I was like, don't roll up on me, you know, because you just made a whole other side come out, you know. But that's, you know, but that's, when I also realized there was something else deeper in me that needed to be dealt with too that was just sitting. You know, we all have that other side that is sitting. And it makes me think

of when you see people on the news and they have unlifed someone and the neighbors go, well, they were so sweet. I wonder what happened, you know, because it's that instinct that is there, you know, based off of open doors, based off of different generational things that we never deal with. You know, so I knew that that was something that I needed to deal with because that was some anger that, you know, just released that day. But it was nothing but God that kept me because it could have gone another way. She could have taken my life because there were people in there. I never thought I would be sitting down with people that have taken other people's lives with their bare hands. Because, you know, it's like, well, what are you here for?

for. Oh, I was fighting and I stabbed someone in the heart. Well, what are you here for? Oh, you know, I, my husband was cheating. So I decided to take my daughter's life as well as mine, but I survived and my daughter didn't. I'm like, what? You know, those were the type of people that were in that place. And I was like, what did I do to get here? How was I? How was I? so blinded and so caught up to get here. You know, so they didn't have anything to lose. So they could have easily taken my life just like that because it was nothing to them, you know. And what I realized, a lot of times people that were in there for taking someone's life had

already done it before, you know. It's just that now they got caught. What was this fight over? What happened? I don't even know. I think it was something that she, that I said that I think of. offended her or something that she didn't like. I don't even know what it was about. I can't even remember what it was about. And she was someone that I had considered my friend because she was actually

from Amsterdam. So she was one of the people that spoke English. And she too was in there for drug trafficking. You know, so she had come from Suriname and was bringing it from Suriname and ended up there. I mean, she was taking hers. I'm not sure if she was taking hers to Amsterdam or to England, you know, but she was another one of those people. So she was a person that I, you know, could talk to. We spoke the same language. And so I don't know what happened, but for some reason she developed an issue with me, you know, I'm like, I'm the nice one, you know. So I thought like she was picking on me, no, pick on the ones from New York, roll up on them with that aggression that you want to roll up on me with, you know? So, yeah, it was something so petty, you know,

but I was like, well, thank you Jesus because that could have been my life, you know. So it was those type of things. And so I just, when I was there, I began to journal every day. So I would write every day. I had CDs sent over to me and I would play, you know, worship music every night. And I would just, you know, walk and just pray. Just walk and just pray. I would fast, you know, a couple times a week and just pray and just really trust and believe that God was going to bring me out.

I was like, this is not my portion. You know, there's too much for me to do. And so I, you know, just begin to say, Lord, if you deliver me out of this place, I will never, ever, ever, you know, do this again. I will never, ever associate with these people again. I will do what it is you've called me to do and help who. whoever I can help, you know, turn away from, you know, the lifestyle that I was living, you know, and any type of addiction or stronghold that I had, you know, it was definitely broken in that place, which really spoke of the power of God because a lot of times people

picked up different addictions and habits, you know, and I didn't pick anything. up. The things that I came in there with was broken. A lot of it left me, right? But once I got out of there, where I failed is, you know, once you clean a house, you have to fill it back up. If not, the devil will return seven times greater. And so I didn't have a clear understanding of that. And so I never ever got back into drugs or never got back into trafficking or, you know, anything of that nature, but I still, you know, got into dating and, you know, out of wedlock and, you know, things like that. But definitely kept my vow to the Lord that I would never do this again if you bring me out of this space and place. The other thing I said was that I would share my

testimony so that other people would not end up in this space, end up in this place, because they definitely target young women, you know, between the ages of 18 and 21, 21, 25. You send your kids to college and, you know, or they go to a new state and they definitely, you know, target them at colleges. They target them at strip clubs. They target them, you know, at the mall. So once I returned home, a couple times when I would try to share my testimony or have conversations, people were like, uh-uh, uh-uh. you know, don't talk about that or don't tell that or don't share that, you know, like, that's embarrassing, you know, or that was really hard for your family. Or, you know, you should be ashamed or, you know, even if you don't have a record, you know, if a job finds out, you know, they won't employ you or they won't keep you.

And so I got quiet, you know. And I stopped sharing the testimony. And I was going to write a book. And they were like, oh, no, you know, you can't do that. And so I didn't write a book. And so I just kind of sat dormant on that. So even when I started doing prison ministry, I was with a ministry, and I was doing prison ministry at the detention centers, you know, I would speak in third person about a person

I knew that had this experience, but I still wouldn't say. that it was me, you know, because the ministry was like, don't tell them that. We don't want them to think that we have somebody from here coming there. Then it was like, well, if you do have this record, then you won't even get the past to come in there. I'm like, well, I don't have a record, you know? And so, and so even then I would share it, but not to that capacity, but I would try to tell young people, you know, never judge a book by its cover, right? Because you really don't know what people have done or what they're doing or what's happened on the inside of but I can tell you there's no place that you can go that God is not with you and there's no place that

you can be or a situation that you can be in that he won't deliver you and bring you out of you know and so I could never really share it to the level of transparency that I wanted to and so now I'm at a place in my life where I'm like hey I'm telling it all you know because I think of all the people that have come along the way that have just fallen into that trap you know and even the people I took with me, you know, on these different trips and on these different, um, experiences, right? And so, you know, even in that, you think about the people that you expose, um, negative things to. You know, you have to repent for that, you know, so I had to, you know, really repent. And at one point, I felt like, well, we're all adults. So if you made this decision,

that's your choice. I'm not responsible. But no, we, we, we are. responsible. You know, we are responsible for what we introduce people to, what doors we open in people's lives, you know? So you have to repent for that. And ask God to forgive you. And so I did that, you know, so I went through repentance. I went through renunciation, you know, of a lot of things that I had come into agreement with. And then, you know, I even had to go through a process of forgiveness because I realized I needed to forgive the guy that I felt like place to. me there. I realized I needed to forgive my dad, you know, for the times that he wasn't there when I felt like he should have been there. And then I had to forgive myself, you know,

for the things that I had done in how I had contributed to, you know, all of this. So did you end up talking to that guy again, ever again? So I did talk to him, you know. I think I had probably been out maybe a good three months and I tried to reach out and call and there was no response. And I think like three months later, he finally, you know, called back. So I was at home probably a good six months before I finally, you know, heard from him. And, you know, he apologized and said, you know, that he realized that he could have and should have done more from a financial aspect, but that, you know, my family was just so upset that they didn't want to communicate. But I was like, you still could have given money to my friend or something like,

you never sent me anything to cover any legal expenses, to buy food when I was there, like nothing. Like, you know, you didn't look out for me, right? And so he apologized for that, but I knew the truth of the matter is he didn't want any ties to it because he knew that that was really big and he didn't want anyone to trace it back to what he was doing or notify, you know, the U.S. or,

anybody here. So it's like he just went ghost, you know. So he apologized and I saw him like one time. I think I saw him one time. You know, hey, how are you? Good to see you, blah, blah, blah. But I was like, no, you know. And I think at another point he reached out to me to proposition me. And I was like, no way. And he says, well, I just want to see, you know, where you're mind was, you know, after three years, well, why would you want to see where my mind was? No, you're trying to see if I'm in a desperate state or, you know, if money is still like my... Ready to buy a car, a home, or just want to take control of your money? Your FICO score matters, and 90% of top lenders use it to make decisions. Check your FICO score for free today without

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and because your belongings are probably gone. Friends have moved on financially. I mean, there was no cell phones or anything back then, so bills were probably a lot different. So definitely, so if I backtrack to the day that I knew I was going home, a sense, a spirit of fear set in, right? Which was like the weirdest thing, because you should be happy. You know, you want to leave.

You want to get out of here. So why are you afraid? Right? But you're afraid of what's out there. You're afraid of what's changed, you know. You're afraid of what family and friends are going to really say now that they see you in your face. You know, there was just so many negative thoughts and negative emotions that went through my mind that I feel like should not have gone through my mind. you know, but I realize now that it's normal for people after they've been, you know, in the hospital for a long period of time, but especially after they've been like in jail or in prison or people that are in the military and they've been, you know, out, you know, for some years or whatever. So it was just a very strong sense of fear, you know, and just not knowing what to,

anticipate or what to expect. Because at that time, I didn't know that I was not going to have anything on my record and that my record was clear. So it was like, okay, what am I going to do now? Like, what is my life going to be like? Who's going to want to be associated with me or want to be friends with me? Like, what is that really going to look like for me? Right. So once I got out of there, You know, it seemed like things just picked up for me, you know, rather quickly. I had great support with my, you know, mother and my father. I live with my mom for a little while. And then eventually I, you know, got my own place.

And things just went up. So it's like God just began to breathe on me to where I know some friends and family members were like, how is she doing this or how is she getting that? And I knew that that was the favor of God. for me to get a job, for me to begin to move up, you know, quickly to be able to get another place. And it's like life just really opened up. And even to the point that I began to do ministry, you know, and there were some battles, you know, with that.

Some people were like, no, you're not called. That's just what people experience when they're in jail. And I was like, what? You know, no, God's called me. I was called from a child, you know. I just didn't take heed to it and didn't have any real guidance in that area, you know. But I was like, no, I know that I'm called. You know, I know I have a calling on my life.

I know that ministry is what I'm supposed to be doing. Really, it's serving, you know. And so I just began to serve my community, serve in the detention centers, serve in women's shelters, you know, serve in any capacity that I could. I served in the juvenile system. So I just began to serve and pour out in any way, you know, that I could and work with different, you know, nonprofit organizations. So things, I knew it was just God ordering my steps and he's just been carrying me along the way. And so whenever I do share my testimony or tell people where I've been and the things that I experience, they're always shocked, you know, because there's no residue. Sometimes you see people and you're like, okay, they look like life's been rough, you know,

or they look like they've really been through it or they've, you know, been detained or locked up someplace, you know, but there's no residue, you know. So I know that's the power of God, just washing and cleansing. And I got into deliverance, you know, with significant revelation in Apostle Mark and Apostle Amber, which definitely helped deal with those generational things of abandonment, generational things of rejection, generational things of poverty and lack, you know, the generational curses that, you know, ultimately led me, you know, down these different paths, you know, so just breaking those off so that it stops with me and it doesn't continue down, you know,

my bloodline. After all these years, I mean, it's going on probably almost 30 years since you've gotten out of there. do you still think about it vividly? I mean, like I got out of prison seven, almost eight years ago, and I still think about that. So I wonder what it's going to be like for me, you know, 20 years from now. So because I was just telling somebody, I said, we're in 2025. So it's going on 20 years.

It's going on 20 years. And I would say I don't think about it every day, but probably like once a week, you know, or every couple of weeks. something will happen or I'll see something that will remind me of it or sometimes I'll think about different people that I met over there and you know where they are if they're still alive um different things um I don't want to say they trigger me but they make me go hmm um like the guards used to always have like these big key chains that they would use to you know so I hate hearing keys and doing the type of work that I do a lot of times we have stacks of keys and I'm like,

you know, and for a minute I was like, you know, what is it with keys? But it took me a minute to realize, oh, it's from Martinique. It's from when you were detained, you know. So different, you know, stacks of keys, you know, I don't like. I want to be able to eat what I want to eat when I want to eat, right? Before it was from a place of when we didn't have, you know, and then now it's from a place of when I couldn't have, you know, for two years. So different things will trigger. Sometimes if people ask me, you know, where are you going or what are you doing today or where have you been, you know, I'm like, don't track me. Don't keep up with me, you know. What triggers me is when people say the last name because like in the American system, it's everything

goes by your last name. Yes. And so they would always say my last name because they weren't sure how my first name was, you know. And so even in ministry, a lot of times people, you know, want to say, you know, Pastor Taylor, no, it's Latasha, Latasha, Latasha, Latasha, Latasha, you know. And but when people just say your last name, I'm like, no, just say my, just say my first name, you know. So yeah, so that end, when I first got home and I would encounter people, a lot of times I would address them by their last name. And they never said, oh, were you detained? But they would say, you must have been in the military. And I'd say, well, why would you say that?

Oh, because you addressed me by my last name. And I'm like, oof. You know, and I would never say why. But yes. Last name, keys, and trying to keep track with me. you know, I'm like, don't track me. What's one thing you know now that you wish you knew as a teenager? I wish I knew spiritual warfare, number one.

I wish I was mindful of soul ties. You know, in school they talked about soul ties from a sexual standpoint, but they never talked about soul ties like from your friends, you know, the people that you interact with, how they influence you and how you influence them. We are a spirit having an earthly experience. So whenever you encounter someone, your spirit and their spirit is having some type of exchange, rather be positive, negative, rather if they're influencing you or you're influencing them, right? And so I don't think we realize oftentimes the level of influence we have on people or better yet the level of influence people

have on us, you know. So soul ties is something I wish I would have really known because a lot of the things that I did get into, I was influenced, right? And didn't realize the power that influence carries, you know, from soul ties, just with friends, not even with anyone that I'm intimate with. And then with the people that you're intimate with, it's like on a whole another level. So I really wish somebody spoke to me about soul ties. And then spiritual. warfare because when I look back over the unfortunate things that have happened, I can see where the enemy just strategically lined it up, you know, and we think things just happened or we think accidents just happen. There's no such thing as an accident. There are no accidents in

the Bible, right? When you're born out of wedlock, that's not an accident, you know, your parents may not have known you becoming, but God did, right? So I think just really, teaching spiritual warfare. And when we say that we're praying for things seen and unseen, let's really address what are those unseen things. You know, so my thing is, Lord, I know your will is that I'll never be blindsided. So please give me spiritual eyes to see. Please heighten my sense of discernment so that I know when someone is for me and not for me or when something's not right. Allow me to acknowledge the Holy Spirit as my helper when he's speaking to me. Because people say, oh, a little voice told me something or I heard, you know, no, that's the

Holy Spirit trying to tell you, don't go right, go left, you know, don't go out tonight, stay home, you know, don't connect with that person. But just me trying to go support someone else got me into a totally different lifestyle. I was working and life was great for me, but I went to support and be nice to someone else. And then they went on about their business, right? How many times do we see that happen? You know? And then also, just dealing with the spirit of rejection, the spirit of abandonment, you know, the spirit of low self-esteem. Because when you encounter people that are not dealing with rejection when you encounter people that are confident in who they are and whose they are, they walk with a different level of power and authority. So they're not easily influenced.

They're not easily persuaded. So I wish that, you know, I knew as a teenager that I mattered and I was enough regardless of if my parents were together or not or if my father was there or not, that God is our ultimate father, you know, and just allow him. him to father me. You know, so the most important thing is having that relationship with Christ. I, you know, when I was young, you know, my parents and my grandparents took me to church. I began to speak in tongues when I was nine years old and begin to pray and prophesy and receive a lot of prophetic words over my life, right?

And some of them were warning, you know, and I remember one of them was her hands are anointed. Anything that she touches will prosper and will be, will be blessed. her hands are like gold. And so I like held on to that like Joseph with the coat, right? And then I knew like some years later, I went to a church and I was probably 21, 22, before I ended up over in Martinique and a lady began to prophesy about my hands and say the same thing. And wherever I worked and whatever I set my hands to do, it would always go well. I would always have favor, you know? So that was the other reason why I felt like if I'm carrying a suitcase, it's good because my hands are blessed,

their favorite. No, you're doing something wicked and evil. You're doing something that's a sin. You're doing something that's illegal, you know? But I was like, my hands are blessed. So no matter what I put my hands to do, they're going to prosper, you know? And so just taking that completely, you know, out of context, right? But if I, if I just, you know, was able to hold on to that, and really allow God to put my hands to work to do what it is he had called me to do. So it's so much that I could, you know, say or want to say to, you know, a young person. And I try to say to young people. And so one of the things that I've even been challenging myself is speaking to more young people more transparently.

I have a daughter that's, you know, 23. A lot of times it's hard to speak to your children about the things that you've done or the places that you've been. But it's like you want to definitely share with them as much as you can and be as transparent as you can. Because what I've learned is even if they don't see you do these things or they aren't around these things, those things are attached to you and you'll see them develop the same love for things that you loved that they never even knew that you did or experienced. You know, you can see a kid that was adopted and never grew up around his biological parents, and he'll have the same likes and ways and habits as them. You know, that's a spiritual connection. That's a soul tie. You know, those are generational blessings, but they're also generation. This June, the world comes to Los Angeles. Kick off FIFA World Cup 2026 at the FIFA fan festival of the iconic Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. Watch matches live on Giant Scream. Feel every goal with thousands of fans. and celebrate with music, culture, and flavors from around the world.

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Thank you. I appreciate you having me and just give you. me an opportunity to, you know, really share, you know, what God has done for me and where he's brought me from. And, because like I said, just growing up, I just never thought those were the spaces and places I would be. You know, you hear about people like that on the news. And I'm like, that's not my life. And so I just, you know, thank God. Yeah, you have an incredible story. And you tell it so well, too. And I think you were a little nervous. Oh my goodness, let me tell you because I, like I said, it's been 20 years and I definitely have not, you know, shared it that much. I definitely never shared it on the platform like this. So I thank God for you, you know, because I see on the news and see on social media when people's, you know, young ladies will go disappearing or they come up missing and you'll hear later on, you know, where they were and what they were doing and what they got involved in it. It's like, oh my gosh, you know.

if somebody could just tell them, you know, and that's why trafficking has gotten really big now, you know, but that's a part of it. You know, that's a part of it. Um, so yeah. Absolutely. Well, thank you again. So thank you so much for the opportunity to share and to just talk about, you know, what God has done for me and what he's continued to do. And I'm like, ever so grateful, just so grateful. And I just want to, you know, be a blessing to people, you know, so they don't, you know, fall in that same pattern, or if they do find themselves in these spaces and places, knowing that God still loves them, they're still favor on their life. And if he can bring me out of a prison cell in Martinique in a whole other country, you know, in my right mind, you know, healthy and well,

and then reestablish me in this country with nothing, you know, on my record or anything. he can definitely do it for them.