Locked In with Ian Bick - Inside a Connecticut Women's Prison: Life Behind Bars, Inmate Stories & Prison Survival | Cassei Ricci

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

Cassei Ricci shares her story about life inside a Connecticut women's prison and how strict drug laws landed her behind bars. She reveals what happens inside, the challenges of prison survival, and the relationships formed while incarcerated. Cassei discusses what led to her sentence, how she navigated life on the inside, and what she learned from the experience. This episode explores the impact of drug laws, the realities of incarceration, and the journey after release. #ConnecticutPrison #WomensPrison #LifeBehindBars #InmateStories #PrisonSurvival #InsidePrison #PrisonLife #CriminalJustice Thank you to MAGIC MIND for sponsoring this episode! Visit https://www.magicmind.com/ianbickjan to get 45% off the Magic Mind Bundle! Connect with Cassei Ricci: https://www.instagram.com/cassarellaaa?igsh=MTJsMjlobmd0dzV0dA== Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Presented by Tyson 2.0 & Wooooo Energy: https://tyson20.com/ https://woooooenergy.com/ Buy Merch: https://www.ianbick.com/shop Use code lockedin at checkout to get 20% off your order Timestamps: 00:00:00 Meeting at a Comedy Show 00:04:05 Reflections on Life in Jail 00:08:19 Overcoming a Challenging Childhood 00:12:17 Growing Up with Grandparents 00:16:14 Navigating Teenage Love and Family Morals 00:20:00 Arrest at the Red Light: A Night to Remember 00:24:00 Dealing with DUI and High Bail 00:28:05 A Week of Fear and Survival 00:32:54 Struggles with the Legal System 00:36:42 Life in Women's Prison: Creative Cooking and Daily Life Hacks 00:40:56 Life Behind Bars: Personal Stories and Hygiene Challenges 00:44:54 Life Inside: Inmate Dynamics and Unwritten Rules 00:49:03 Mysterious Lockdown and Its Consequences 00:52:40 Impact of Prison Experience on Future Choices 00:56:31 Embracing Humility and Simple Living 01:00:52 Empathy and Challenges in the Criminal Justice System Powered by: Just Media House : https://www.justmediahouse.com/ Creative direction, design, assets, support by FWRD: https://www.fwrd.co Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And, yeah, we met that night, and they were ripping me for going to prison. I kind of stole the show there. You definitely did. And you had shouted, mention that you went to prison, and now here we are. And here we are. Had you heard of the show before then? I have. I've watched, like, a few little things like,

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And, you know, everyone used locked in the code Ian Bick Jan and get that 45% off the bundle. And yeah, definitely. check out Magic Mind. I love it. It's good. It's not bad. But someone's like washing down with some coffee. At least you give it a try. No, it wasn't bad. That's what they want. They want honest feedback, you know, of the product. I don't drink anymore, but you know. In the magic mind? Yeah. I don't know. I guess maybe you could. What if someone wanted to make a margarita with bad one? I don't know. Okay. So you live in Danbury now, right? Well, yeah, always pretty much. You grew up in Namer? Born in Dammer? Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. Who were you raised by both parents? Actually, my grandparents. My grandma was like, please don't talk about it. Oh, you told your grandma you're coming on? Did she know what this was? Yeah. She was like, oh, God, Cassandra.

So we're here. But I'm really excited, actually. I think it's really cool what you're doing because, I, like, again, my grandma had five kids, so I'm like her six kid. And being able to, like, help people throughout our tribulations, I think is really important. And I think a lot of people go through a lot of stuff, especially life-changing moments, like, going to jail. It's uncomfortable. Like, being there is the worst feeling in the world.

I don't wish jail on anybody, you know. Other than those people that rape and kill people, like, you guys should probably just die. But, like, I guess you guys get to go to jail and stuff. Some people get to walk the streets and then drunk dealers go to jail forever. Yeah, it's literally crazy thinking about like someone that's sitting next to you casually somewhere could have spent time in prison like you at the comedy show. Right. Even me, I've been thinking about that more. Like a lot of people, you know, if I was just a normal like not well-known person, they would have no idea.

Yeah. And I'm sure people think about like that about you at your job. They have no idea or anything like that. They're like, no way. You? What did you do? And I'm like, I didn't even actually do anything. Just kind of just didn't tell on anyone's own.

So it's like. I know. Everyone has a story with that. And I think that's the importance of, you know, bringing out the normalcy of it that it is. Because millions and millions of people do go to prison. Right. Yeah, I missed out in a few years. I don't know.

When did you stop, like, throwing a party? Like Horizon, like, kind of took over. You used to go to Tuxitos back in the day. Horizons was actually before me. Yeah. And that because they didn't succeed because you, like, blew them out of the... The original Tuxedos did. You blew them out.

Yeah. And then Tuxitos was always doing the teen parties, which I'm sure you went to. Yeah. You were too old for my teen parties because you're four years older than me. Yeah. But then you probably went to some of the bigger shows I did because those were all ages. Right.

But you probably went to Lush and all those iconic places. Yeah. I remember when I came home, it was too. It was mad cool too because everyone was outside in the balcony. Like at Lush and they were like, I see it. It was like, I felt like a celebrity coming home. No one wrote me though. No one said any money.

So it was like, St. So it was like, St. Thanks. So what was your opinion of me before you met me? To be honest, I just remember, like, Nadia always being like Ian, Ian, and, like, that's why I thought you remember her, but obviously, Nadia, if you're watching this, we made it to the Ian's show. I don't know, I bet so many people.

Yeah, no, no, that's what I'm saying, but she was always a party promoter girl, too, so she was always, like, helping out, like, the Dan Barry people in the community, just, like, you know, trying to encourage, like, having a good time and staying, like, family-oriented and stuff. So it was always fun. We always went out as a girl group, like, you know, just wanted to dress them and be pretty and have fun with those phone parties. Those phone parties pretty lit. Yeah, I feel like...

Anyone from Connecticut knows about those OG tuxedo junkie parties. These kids don't know what parties are. Like, we had those real cool parties. Like, I remember there was this really popular kid in Dan Berry. I don't know if you know him. Geez, what was his name? He always had the really nice parties every year. He was big shot.

I don't remember, though. I forget his name. I never got to close to his party. Never. Yeah, I do this mentorship program with kids that are affected by the juvenile probation system. And I'm like, are there parties? Like, does anyone throw house parties anymore? Anything?

Like, they'll never know what, like, a tuxedo junction was. I think that they're, like, also doing too much gaming now. Everyone's addicted to gaming. It's actually pretty interesting. So different. There's, like, commercials now. Like, it's a classified mental health problem. They diagnose the game.

gamers as having a problem. I think it's funny. The one thing that is cool about this generation that was Uber. We never had that back then. Yeah, I get to DoorDash. Oh, you DoorDash? I mean, it's not my account. Thanks, friend.

I used to Doordash. I used to hustle with Doordash. I think it's because I had a DUI. But, you know, I didn't go to jail for that, thank God. Very great lawyer. So why were you raised by your grandparents? To be honest, my mom had me when she was 15. Oh, I'm so sorry about that.

Let me just put this on. Yeah, you're good. You got everything going off. No, I meant to turn it off and I'm not really good with technology still. You know what you missed that year? You're still trying to get. Yeah, missed a year. That's what you put it on.

I was a little like delayed when it comes down, sister and stuff like that. Sorry, new technology. They're always upgrading. My mom, yeah, she had me. She was 15. My dad, I never actually knew until I was like 15, 12, 13. 12, 13. He came around once, and then he was always in a hard of jail. But my mom was just a young mom, and I was just really lucky to have my grandparents.

My grandma didn't have to take care of me, but, like, I'm happy I grew up on my mom's side of the family because I went through a lot more. I feel like I went through real things that made me who I am today. If I grew up with my dad's side of the family who, you know, my grandpa's a retired vet and stuff, like that. So I could have been an accountant. I could have had everything, but it would have been so easy for me. Like this way I've lived my life, I've literally been through everything and I'm just so proud of myself because like right now I'm doing stuff I never thought I would do. Like I did dental assisting for 10 years after, you know, coming home. I went to a course and then I just went from there. I Excel. Then I loved it. I went to regular dentistry. Went to orthodontics. And then now here I am. I managed two companies for a rule. thing in a painting company on one mothership. And I just can't believe I finally made it. Like, you know, I'm 33.

My birthday was actually on January 16th. So this is like a little birthday gift to myself. I'm just like here, go be yourself. Like, I've been living under a shadow of just being so ashamed of like sticking up for everyone else instead of sticking up for myself. And for once I'm like doing that. So I'm just like, I'm owning this like 33's for me this year. So you're off to a good start. Thanks.

So with your mom being so young, your grandparents were probably pretty young raising you as well. So it probably felt normal, like as if they were mom and dad? Well, I really didn't even have much time with my mom, I guess. Like, with my grandparents, I grew up with my cousins and their parents. So my mom wasn't really in the picture. Like, even though my mom was young, my mom was just not there. Like, it wasn't like my mom lived in the same house with us. Like, she was off doing what she wanted to do with wherever she was.

And my brother came into the picture. You know, she was in a new relationship with this guy and that didn't work out. And then my little sister came, but I didn't really get to have that relationship with my mom the way I always wanted to. And even still till now, it's still awkward. I love her, but it's just hard to, you know,

get that relationship of having a mom when it's more like having a friend. because she's trying to be so cool, too, and just, like, it's weird. Does that make you hesitant about having kids? No, I want to be anything. I want to be a mom. That's if I could be anything, I want to be a mom for sure. But just with the right person, right timing.

I actually had, I don't know if you weren't there for the first comedy show, it was such a great joke. So I was at the comedy show last time, and there was this guy who was talking about, like, you know, how COVID happened. been and people who are like cheating and dying. He's like, you know, I was like, you know, it was a joke. And, you know, my fiance, I was with him for 13 years and he died like 10 years ago. So I'm like, oh, but he was so bad. But like I loved him, but he hurt me bad. Like my pinky was never going to be the same.

I went through bad shit. And I'm just, I guess, I don't know. I just saw. I never thought that this would be like my life, you know. And getting over him was really hard, but I definitely want to be a mom. I just wanted to be the right person because of what I've been through. I want my kid to have the unconditional love where they're not looking for relationships or people to love them. I don't know if maybe I did that, but I feel like kind of like a sucker because my grandma says, I'm not God.

I can't fix everyone. But I'm like, here, let me love you. Let me help you. Let me fix you. Like, stop doing that. Like, if you just let me love you, it will be so much better. and it's just like suffocating probably because I'm a lot sometimes. But, yeah, I mean for all the good stuff, not to be annoying.

Well, never stop being you. Yeah. It makes you original and unique. Thank you. Nice and bubbly. Yeah, without drinking. It's crazy. My boss thinks I'm insane.

Well, it brings out the true of you, you know? Yeah. Thank you. Did your grandparents have a good financial situation while raising you? To be completely honest, I never was one of those kids to ask for anything. that came up with them, obviously they give you like some child support and stuff. So my grandparents definitely financed off of that for my, my grandma, she was a stay-at-home mom. She used to drive school buses back in the day, but to take care of me afterwards, you know,

she just became a stay-at-home mom. My grandfather worked seven days a week just to provide a roof over our head, actually. And, you know, I didn't really actually grow up having like nice sneakers or, you know, like Nike and name brand anything. Like Bradley is before like you buy lacrosse shirts. They were seven bucks, bro. Like there's $70 now. Like I remember this because my grandfather had to wear

for being a janitor in Newtown Holly School. He had to wear those blue like collared shirts and he loved his lacrosse shirts. My girl were like, those are seven bucks. We're getting them as a steal. Like, you know, like anything off the bargain rack. My girl was like, we're getting it. No, you can't get that.

That's going on in layway. We'll get that back in like, you know, in December or something, never get the clothes. So that's kind of where I kind of got like my feet like dirty into like where my route of life kind of shifted. Everyone's like, oh, here this cute bubbly girl. We could get you to make some money. You know, so I saw weed.

You know, I did. I did. I had weed. But this was like before when weed was frowned upon. But it's crazy because like they don't care about that shit anymore. Like they should have never really cared about it. Like they should have cared about the weed that is. is getting infused with whatever.

I don't know why people are wasting your money doing that. It's ridiculous. How did you first get into weed? I was actually so against it. I thought like smoking weed was like smoking crack. I was like, look at those crackheads. Like, you know? I'm not even going to lie.

It was ridiculous. So like me smoking weed was like kind of funny because it just, I didn't smoke it. I just like sold like dying back to my friends because everyone was smoking weed. I was just like, why? Look, my friends are all crackers. I was like, this sucks, dude. But like whatever, I got new sneakers every day and stuff.

So I was excited about that. But over and all, I think I was like 12 or 13. And I was watching like how high or something. I was like watching them smoking weed. I was like, you know what? Like, why do I just like try it out over the apple? And it didn't really successfully work. But then I tried out of like a can.

And I was like, now I'm looking at me. Like, crack at my friends. But I didn't know how to roll a blunt. So I was like, how can I smoke this? Like I don't know how to. to make bongs out of the soda can. Right, yeah, that's what I did. I popped like small ones.

And my grandma's like, what the fuck is that smell? Cassandra. So she always made, like, comments about my smell in my room because it was weed. And then I was just like, no moss. These new incense I got, like, you know, because I wasn't smoking. I was like, there's no way she can really smell if I just. And I would burn incense a lot. And it would kind of like diffuse the smell a little bit.

But I had like some sour. So it was really stinky. So it was like, I kind of really beat that around. But, like, you know, that was life. And then, excuse me, it was that energy drink. Just the matcha. Yeah, bloop that out. But yeah, so amongst from that, I lost my chain of thought.

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because they were older and your grandparents? No, I wasn't allowed to have friends over. I had a boyfriend. I wasn't really allowed to have a boyfriend, but he was my boyfriend because I would talk to him on the phone all night. I didn't want to hang out with him. I was scared of being in love with someone.

It took me three years to tell my first boyfriend I ever liked him. I was like, sure, I guess I like you a lot. Like, we were on the phone and I care for you. He's like, would tell me you love me. I'm like, no, I'm not ready to say that. Like, you know, little kids be like three months in. They'd be like, I love him so much.

Yeah, no, I just, I grew up with morals. My grandparents had a lot of morals. I wasn't allowed to have friends over. So it's like if you came to my grandma really liked you, my grandma got to know your parents or my grandpa got to know your parents. Yeah, I guess when it came down to me going outside, I was good at lying. Because I was like, oh, I'm going over to so-and-so's house.

So it's not like she would know really where I was. I was in New York one time. We didn't come home from two days. And she was like, that's it, Cassandra. I swear to God, I'm calling the cops if you don't come home. And I'm like, dude, we got to go back. Like, you know, I was, I was a little rebellious. I guess I get that from my mom because I am my mother's daughter.

So how would people describe you in high school? I know you just said rebellious, but what else? Crazy. Yeah. Like, once that name, that was like a nickname they gave for me because, like, I used to fight all the time. Oh, this boy. that used to like break my fucking heart who lost my finger, R-I-P.

You were one of those girls getting handcuffed out of the Danbury High School? No, never going to handcuff. I actually, I don't even think I thought I fought in Danbury High School. I think I ran, in Danbury High School I actually ran home crying. Yeah, because I seen like that kid that I was in love with

like kissed this other girl and I had on my Jordan 11s and they were gray and yellow and white and I ran through the red field of Danbury High School. I was raining and I mean, and picked me up of like a, like one of those little buses, the short buses with the special people on it. And they were like, oh, he's crying.

And they were seeing me happy birthday. It was horrible. No, it was so bad. I was like, this is the most embarrassing moment of my life. And before they picked me up, I got splashed with a huge, yeah. So, yeah, I just fought a lot in middle school. I didn't find a high school. But everyone knew I was, like, going to whip your ass.

Like, if you, like, try to, like, make fun of me. I was, like, really big on bullies. I would beat bullies up more or less. Remember when those are our only problems in life, seeing someone we like, kiss someone else? Just a kiss. Yeah, yeah. Nothing else. Yeah.

It's crazy. I honestly, I live for those moments, though. I'm such a hopeless romantic. That's where, like, my friend gave me, like, the cassarella nickname. So it's like, those things aren't mad cute, but, yeah, wishful thinking. Did you get any trouble in high school, like, legally? That's when I got arrested that year. In the high school.

Yeah. It was actually. didn't get to graduate or go to my prom because I spent my birthday, my 18th birthday in jail. So, um, yeah, tell us what happened. So, um, amongst the getting, the part where, you know, I was getting tired of, um, not having those things that everyone else had in school, I used to get made fun of and being called crazy Cassie. It was like, all right, fuck everyone.

I'm going to get money. I'm just going to hang out my friends and, you know, be this cute little asset, whatever. It's just funny because, like, I didn't even sell, like, like, lot of weed. It wasn't like a monster drug dealer or nothing. I would have like a half of weed and I would just re-up and just like we're little kids. Like you know you just buy your sneakers and

buy some more weed. Smoke some weed. You know just recycle your funds. And then I guess I was hanging out with these kids who are trying to get me to like hang out with them and sell like a lot and I was like no dude I don't need that like I'm good and me and my boyfriend

at the time were fighting and I let him like stay home at my house because he would always be at my house so I would go out and hang out with my friends and this kid was like trying to push this on me and I was like no so he ended up yelling at the girl when we're driving to drop me off home after I said no and the girl takes a right turn at the I'm sorry she took the left turn at a red light in front of a police officer and that was just like whoo-whoop-whoop but I was like oh shit so it sucked because like I don't know how much weed they had on them but it was just you just at that time, any type of weed, any amount of weed you had, especially next to a school zone, was like a felony or whatever. So that happened. And we were all, like, locked up downstairs at the Danbury Courthouse. They're like, or the Dambury Police, the Damary Courthouse.

And they're, like, telling us the next day, like, all the guys that we're with, oh, don't worry, girls. Like, we're going to make sure, like, you guys get home. Like, we're going to take this one. Like, don't worry. I know you got stuff going on at home. We're not going to do this to your families. They're the only ones that got fucking bonded out right then and there that day.

They're walking out of there. While we're in the courthouse, I'm looking at the other girl that was driving. That took the fucking left turn. I was like, you dumb bitch. You know, I still know her. We laugh about it to this day. I just don't want to say any names, obviously, because it's just, like, I don't get a fuck about those people. But I do care about the people that didn't do anything wrong that got in trouble for it

because it did really fucked up my life. And Carmen's a bitch in however way. pays forward, but... How old are you, 18 at that point? I was 17. So, like, I got in trouble like four times, hanging out with the wrong people. And that's why I think it's so big for people

to grow up in a good foundation, especially with parents. And that's why, like, this whole kind of conversation helps heal me a little bit because it makes what I'm actually believing in mean something, you know? Because, like, kids shouldn't be going to hang out

with other people because they don't want to be home or they feel uncomfortable or they're getting made fun of or they don't have what the other kid has, you know? It's just so stupid. But being cautious of who you actually hang around can change your whole entire life. Like if I had just hung out with my girlfriends instead of trying to hang out with, like, those type of people, then my life would have been a lot different. Was that your first time ever getting arrested? Those four times in seven months, yeah.

What were the other three if you got pulled over that time? It was like literally the smallest piece of weed. this big. And then there was like another person I hung out with who had like a hallucin charge. They were like making a transaction and I was just there. And again, I got blamed for it and no one else did. So what are these charges that you're getting hit with? It was hallucingen. Tend to sell. There's the felony classes for the marijuana for being extra school zone and then attempt to sell for those. But I think they took the charges off now when it comes down to the weed because of the law that they passed. I haven't actually checked into it, but I did hear

the ones that thing. So I just don't remember exactly 100% what the rest of the charges were. But it was all like repetitive charges because it was weed. And if you had a bowl and then if you were like a scale baggies, things like that. I bet you then take the news articles down though. Yeah, it's definitely up there still, I'm sure. That's what's messed up about the system. Yeah. You could have your record expunge before the old news articles come down. No, I bet you it's still there.

You should look. Can't wait? Yeah, you Google it. Fuck it. See if it's up there. I always wondered this too anyways. It's like, no wonder why DoorDash no wants to hire me. It's like either.

It's got to be one or the other. Google. Yeah, but life is crazy. I'm just thankful to be alive more or less. And like I said, whatever we could do to teach the people to like keep going and never to give up is more or less the message I want to definitely give. So that last pullover when you guys were on the car, that was the last charge? Yeah, that was my last charge.

And what did you? Other than my drinking and driving and I got my DUI. But you didn't go to prison for that? No, yeah. So did they not give you a bail or your grandparents didn't come bail you out? My bond was like $50,000. Wow. Yeah.

Well, weed was a big deal back then. Mm-hmm. And there was that much in the car. Oh, no, they were trying to smoke my boots. They were trying to give me five years to spend it after two years with five years of probation, like special probation. So you never got bonded out for that charge? You stayed in there at 17. Well, I only ended up having to do because it wasn't like a violent crime.

So I didn't have to do like a maximum charge of it however it works. Like what is it like a percentage of time or something? I never went to state prison So I'm not sure So where do they bring you? You get arrested You're at the Danbury police station What happens when they said no bail?

So you go through The transition with the The ice cream van is what you call it Yeah I love those things So you're in the back of the thing There's men and women In the back of the ice cream van with you And you're just like on this road to New Haven

And you don't even know where the fuck you're going and you're just watching through that little window, damn, Barry, and you're like, I'm never coming back here. Like, I was scared shitless, to be honest. The last time I actually went to jail, too, I had, like, I boofed up some weed. I was like, I didn't want to get into trouble for it because I was like, I know this is mine.

I was like, please don't let this happen to me again. Because, like, the last time I got in trouble, you know, like the guy didn't take the blame for himself. So I was like, no. Fuck you here. That was when you were in the car. That was that time in the car? When I was in the back seat to the thing,

I left it in there too when we were downstairs. And, yeah, I traveled all the way. This is going to kill me. So what do you mean you boofed it? Explain that to the audience. Well, I didn't put it up my butt, but it just. So you put it up your vagina? Yeah.

In the bed, while the cops are pulling you over? Um, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I just didn't know what else to do. I panicked. You could throw it out the window I could have But then it would have

But I was had the window do with a scene Yeah All right So you're in the ice group truck This thing's boofed up you And you're now going to New Haven I'm gonna literally go I just set

I set myself up for failure Um No yeah so I didn't know what to do And it was like so scared of everyone in the air But hilariously Um This lady's like Tell me like all this stuff

There's mad women I met in there And they were all like Getting checked into this room And they're like, yeah, you got to fill out this paperwork. I know nobody's phone number by heart. No one's. So, you know, like telephones are just starting to become a thing. We all have like sidekicks and stuff.

Now we're next house and everyone's got new numbers. Like we're not using house phones as much anymore. So yeah, I didn't know anyone's number by heart. And I had no, like, full list to make. So I was just like in there, like scared and confused with like anyth my vagina. So I was just like, how am I going to get rid of it? of this? Like, what if it doesn't flush? Like, what is someone in the check-in room?

Like, because there's like, you know, there's only 20 of us in this fucking thing in New Haven waiting to, like, well, not even New Haven. This is after. After you're in New Haven, you go to fucking, you go to Nyantik and you're in this big white room

and there's one door and has the bathroom and has a cell phone. On that cell phone, it has a wall phone on the wall. And I don't know anyone's numbers, so I can't call anyone and I have like you know I'm just like what do I do and then I'm looking up the toilet and I'm just like they're gonna know it's me if like if it comes back up like I was so scared I was petrified so what ends up happening um a week later wait it stated you for a week I I kept it there

for a week yeah I could I probably like ruined like you know what I'm I love my life. But yeah, no. So you never got caught for that. No. You got it out. This girl told me after that she did this mad times. And I was like, there was people smoking cigarettes in there, like getting weed in there.

I was too scared to do it because I wanted to go home. I was like, I am not getting in trouble. Like, this is what got me in trouble. He didn't listen to where everyone else is doing. I don't want to do that. So it's hilarious because, yeah, this girl told me. me that, gee, I made money and I was starving. I had no one's number.

I had no commissary. I'm kidding. In the gym bags. And I could have like some ramen noodles or some chips at this point with that. But I had to make my way to make money. Like I had to learn how to crochet. I would make like bags, like slippers, like hats. You know, for the soaps, I'd make a little crochet thing around it. So it's kind of like a scrubby, like a lufo.

It worked. Out of a bar of soap? Yeah. I just crochet. like a little pocket and then you put it inside there you could take it out you could change your soap interesting so now why didn't they send you to a juvenile place because you were 17 well there is a juvenile department downstairs but i got arrested when i was 17 and then i went to jail when i was 18 um they waited for me though that let me spend the holidays at least with my family so i got to

spend new year's eve and christmas and thanksgiving with my family but then i'm a birthday i was already in jail at that point so you do eventually get bail then? No. I was just, oh, um, it wasn't bail. Um, I got, I was on, I was on, I was on the first time I got arrested. So this was, this was, um, my sentence was, um, this was when I was talking about. But the first time I ever got bonded, that was $50. It was just for that little dub of weed that they found in the car. But when you actually got arrested that fourth time with all the people in the car, that was when you didn't get bail. You said it was a $50,000 bail? Yeah, no, then.

Then how did I do this? I think I got bonded only one time. So maybe it was that time. I don't remember. Yeah, it was that time. It was only $50. They let you out? For the little bit of weed.

I think the other one, I think my grandma ended up having to pay something. I forget how much she paid. I know my bond was $50,000, so whatever the... She didn't have to pay the full $50, though, in Connecticut. Yeah. So you were able to get out, fight the case? Yeah, that's what happened the second time because I knew I was going to spend some prison time, so I didn't know what to do.

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Okay. And there was no way to give you like some type of diversion program. This is all minor kind of offenses. Yeah, no, they were so small, and that's why I was like, you'd think I'd kill someone for going to jail for this. Like, it's insane. And it ruined a whole little girl's life, you know. So when you got arrested, did you get expelled from school? I graduated in jail.

So you never finished at Denver High School? Okay. Yeah. So did they kick you out of there then when the arrest happened? No. Or do you go to high school when you're in bail? When you're in jail, there's a school there in jail. But when you're on bail fighting that case because you were still in high school.

Yeah, I was going to Ace at the time. Which is the alternative school in Denver? So they just, I know that I think they just talked about it. You know, how they always usually talk about when someone does something in their life. They're like, oh, I know a girl. They always give a story. So I'm pretty sure, you know, there's a girl that lived right across the street who just never came to school. How long were you awaiting the sentence for, like, fighting the case?

Honestly, it wasn't that long. Until you turned 18, though, right? Yeah, like, I only got the holidays. So it was just before the holidays. It was when they, I think. I was there for a few months. And I told my grandma I had to come home because they didn't know what they were doing or who to talk to when it came down to a lawyer.

And I was just like, this is crazy. Like, you literally are trying to, like, smoke my boots. the judge was trying to smoke me so bad. Like five years suspended after two years with five years of special probation for weed. Like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, it was insane. How did your grandparents react to this?

My grandmother, she was heartbroken. Someone stole her identity when she was younger so she was not able to be on my visiting list, which was the most hardest thing because my grandma were like this. my grandfather worked all the time and he was sick with cancer as well so he wasn't able to come see me

but it was a really hard time for us really hard time and lost out years of life for my grandfather just well not even years just like fighting that stuff and putting him through that probably made him sicker

because he was always worried about paying for the lawyer or something you know or having no own money I know he pulled out his 401k just to give money to my lawyer So how did it feel knowing that you had to do a year in prison? I didn't do a full year. Thank God.

I did like six months and I had 45 days that I did in a rehab. The rehab was like fucking a five-star hotel. Like I swear to God, I was having chicken Caesar salad meals and it was fire. Yeah, no. But when you got the sentence, you thought you would have had to do a year. Yeah. What was that feeling like? I was still scared regardless.

I didn't want to be there because my grandma had an open heart surgery for like a pacemaker and stuff. So I knew everyone was sick and I was just like really scared like, you know, leaving her and upsetting her and just not being able to see her. But like being there, it was kind of like a big girl camp. It was annoying because there was a lot of crazy people who were just like I had the worst experience. with the, like, bipolar, schizophrenic, bunky. She would play cards with me and I had no money. And she was like, come on, you want to play cards? She was like, if you win, I'll give you a soup.

And then I'd win. And she'd, like, tell me my mom hates me and shit. And I'm like, she does. But, like, yeah, it's just crazy. Yeah, tell us some prison stories, like what you were seeing in there, what that was like. And they sent you to New York prison for the woman's prison? No. There's only, Nyantic is the women's prison.

That's in Connecticut? Yeah, Connecticut. And then... Some people go to New York, though, right? No, there's a federal prison for women, but I mean, I'm never... Unless you have a case in New York, they want to switch you to New York. Oh, I thought, like, there's a holding. I know some Connecticut state people got transferred there just for a holding.

I don't know. All right, so you're in Niantic women's prison. You're 18 now in Connecticut. For a holding or in, like, New Haven. Okay. Yeah. So you're in the Connecticut state prison for women. Share with us that experience.

Slap was horrible. Yeah, like I'm not like, no, jail food is not the best, but there was some good meal days. You get used to them, like cheeseburger days where cheeseburger days, like, definitely excited for those. They had like these small pigeon wing legs that you'd have, like on Sundays with this, like, nice piece of cake. I've actually tried to Google what kind of cake it was because it was so fire. It was like an angel cake. But yeah, I guess growing up kind of poor. You just know how to make food out of things

Like I used to be one of those kids That would chop up my cheese with like a plastic knife Like I think I'm Emerald Live So when I'm in jail I'm like how can I cut up these sausages? Like a lot of people actually used to come And ask to eat with me Because I would know how to cook good food

Like I would take the hot pot You guys have a different hot pot In men's prison You guys actually get to like have one in your cell right? Not in the feds now Oh yeah well there's some places where you get to use them. I don't know.

But in women's prison, like we didn't have that advantage. But we'd have like one hot pie in the living room or whatever, the day room. And we would be able to put the hot water in to make our soups and our coffees and stuff. And I would take a garbage bag and I just put a whole bunch of rice in it with like

four different like ramen noodles. Throw some squeeze cheese in there. Put some chopped like sausages to summer links. It would be so funny too because I was like, how am I going to chop these cheeses? and sausages and I would take the mirror that they had a commissary and I would break it in half and then that became like contraband so like you had to be careful with these kind of things but it was really easy I had some good meals in there I think it's an omen to make them at home

but yeah was that your hustle too like having people buy meals from you I mean we didn't no one bought meals for me but I was just like you know being a little girl there and I'm the youngest one with all the other adults. Like there's like seven little girls that are in the youth center down the down that one tier on the east side or on the west side. When you go to the east side, that's when you're like already and like you can open up a window but you got bars there. I had carpet in my building.

I was in the CC building where we did like every morning prayer. We have like a daily word. I wrote to be in that building when I got sentenced because I wanted to do the program. And the program was like kind of like helping like people. women go through mental health and, you know, finding God and stuff like that. So I was interested in going into that building. So I wrote to go there. Plus, we had a tennis court.

But we didn't get to use it. We just walk around it. What did you guys have to wear? Really ugly gene denim. But it was like huge. And I was so small at this time. So these pants were like literally bigger than my, the bigger than my leg. like this, like I would be swimming in them.

And I had a maroon shirt. I think I have a picture. I can send it to later. I actually took a picture for Easter for my grandmother. And they make you pose too. But yeah, it was in the gym. They'd make you do pictures there. You actually have a hair salon in the hair school, actually,

in the women's prison. So you could go get your nails done. And you could go pay together. get your eyebrows there and your lip wax. You could get your hair done if you wanted to. But you said you didn't really have money, so how would you afford those things? I would actually, I learned how to crochet and do yarn. So I would make, like, laundry bags.

I would make, like, those things for soap, like I told you about. I would make slippers. I would make hats. I'd make blankets. The laundry bag was nice, too, because, like, it's, like, once having, like, a, like, a, like a laundry bag you carry where you have a satchel over and then I make like pocket in the front so you can stuff your little like stuff inside there to keep it

you're so away from your clothes you had to bring it back so I was like a Martha Stewart in there like really like that's really kind of how it is for me I feel like I'm like that out here too I'm like okay I don't have any peanut butter and jelly but I'm going to make something work somehow with this peanut butter fuck the jelly like the jelly can become a sauce like you can do anything

What were some of these women that you were there with in prison for? I had a lot of people that were there for boosting. My bunking, my first bunking, my mama scared shitless. She would call the prison every day. It's so funny because she ended up becoming a dental assistant too after. Like, I've been a dental assistant. But, you know, my mom was so scared of her because she, like, went to jail for, like, poking somebody. Like, she got into a really bad fight.

But she was mad cool. she would always be so happy for me to go to school and come back home. Like, she would always sing to me like, oh, my God, I'm so. She's like, you got to listen to this new song, Bucky. Like, you know, I should got this new track out right now. But she taught me how to clean the cell, you know? She's like, we put in these pads out of the bottom of our skippies, and we would literally put them on the bottom of our skippies.

And we had some juice in there. Like, I was always good with everybody no matter where I went Because I traveled a lot. Like I had a lot of different bunkeys because I was already getting sentenced. And I was going to court every two weeks. So I was always in that fucking ice cream truck. And it was so annoying. And I always missed the good meals.

And then I came back for nothing. And I hated the bologna and cheese runs. Those were the worst. And plus I'm going to jail for not even my own stuff. So it's like, fuck this. How is a hygiene in there for women? Disgusting. Some girls would use, like, coffee and stuff and make makeup and stuff like that.

I was just not jacking it. I'm not trying to look at it in jail. I don't care how I look in jail. You know what I'm saying? How do they use coffee for makeup? Dude, I, like, my girls would go crazy in there. I'm not saying me, but I'm saying they're not my girls, but I'm just saying, like, yeah, you got to get how you're doing in there.

You know, that's what makes you feel pretty. Like, you know, some people want to wear makeup, whatever, sure. But I just don't have the desire to look pretty in there. You feel like shit in there You're deprived from all your clothes You're deprived from all your hair products Like Especially we don't have anything neither

Fuck that You're not really worried about that All you're really worried about is just You know your relationship with God And just wanting to come home I don't think anyone Who feels like they shouldn't be in prison Should be in prison

You know On top of that I think that's shitty But like I said I'm blessed because the character You know My life could have probably wouldn't even worse if like things didn't happen the way that it did but it still scarred me like you know

or some of the crazy things you've witnessed in there while you were there um it's just crazy because i've seen like we had that conversation too at the comedy thing about like you know um how like a guy try to hit on you one of the CEOs or whatever like i remember i have my wisdom teeth growing in and this guy because like my last name is rishi but he used always be like who Racy Cup and he looked like the guy from like white chicks like the big black guy he looked just like him like oh my god I'm sorry for saying it like that but what's his name Tracy Morgan yeah the big guy right oh my god late downtown walking fast no no I don't know if it's Tracy Morgan no it's not true no Tracy Morgan's the other guy yeah oh oh okay so that guy

yeah so the guy from white chicks right he look like him mm-hmm so he's like seven foot tall he's huge. He's like, Racy Cup, you haven't eaten in two days. He's like, if you really want to go to medical, he's like, all you got to do is just tell me, Daddy, it hurts, and I'll let you go. And I'm like, ew, no. So I sat in my bed for two days, and I didn't

move because I couldn't eat and anything like that. And then my punky, her name was Nicole. She was from Hartford. She taught me also how to shake my butt. I love her. She's such a good time. She was funny. She made Joe worth it. You know, she's like, come on, we go on do this.

girl. So we used to speak like that. But then she was like, you know what? Just tell that motherfucker. I just called that. You got to get some medical girl. You got to get this. She's like, you haven't eaten three days. So I ended up having to tell him, um, daddy and my tooth hurt so I could go get some town on. And what happened? What did he say to that? He said that's all you had to do.

But I was thankful for, you know, but I was scared shitless of him. I thought that maybe one day, you know, he's coming for me. but I think like I don't know It's just crazy and disgusting But I would like again I would see mad girls entertaining that stuff

Like you know There's actually girls that you would see through the window Walking out with CEOs And like you would hear the rumors Because like the girls have big mouths Like that's how they got like candy That's how we got the cigarettes That's how they got whatever

But yeah Just could Ugh But that's how people live their life I guess But that wasn't like the life for For me Were there a lot of fights in there

among the woman? To be honest, no. There's just a lot of lockdowns because I think mental health stuff. Like they had, there were some more fights or less like in the little kids one. Like the little kids were always fighting.

I think they thought they had to do that. Like, because the older adults would be like, yeah, she got her ass. Like, you know, it's just like so not really it's unhealthy. Like, you know, just encouraging toxic behavior. But, like, that's why I said it's, like, a high school. That's how my Niantic is, like, Camp Nine-N-N-I.

That's what we used to call it. Yeah. What are some rules that the inmates would make that, you know, are not a rule by necessarily the prison standards, but just, like, what the inmates, like you were saying about the pads on the feet? Right. What are other things like that? I mean, we would clean. like we would actually

I don't know how we would even get the spray I know somebody that would know somebody that would just give us the spray like here take this bottle and it would be like bleach and cleaning supplies same thing with like cooking like you know someone with the in the kitchen like you got some cheese you got butter

you got garlic powder eggs yeah I got all that stuff but really the only thing was I think the only rule there was, was, um, there was somebody that would wash the clothes, um, that was like a shift leader on each floor of your tears, um, when you were on the west side. Um, and those would be the ones

that would have like the privilege time to come out of the cells when you would be on lockdown. Because in women's prison, you have, um, two wrecks, but you would be, um, it would be two wrecks or, yeah, two wrecks would be in the morning. And then, I think it actually, you're, um, you have, um, um, it would be two wrecks. it was three. I think it was morning afternoon and night, but I never woke up for the morning one. Or it could be just been two regs. I just know that sometimes I'll wake up for breakfast and it would be like 4 o'clock in the morning

and we'd have to walk in a cold and it would be turkeys outside on the east side. And I don't know who it was that started it, but there was like a commercial for one of the years. And it was like the turkeys and you would whistle and they would like start going, blu-lo. And it was like, wow.

The girls would do it all the time. would actually work, they would be like mad turkeys and the CEOs would get so pissed. They'd be like, stop doing that. But it was our entertainment while we're walking in the fucking cold. Getting these eggs and grits in the morning. You were telling me off camera that you're in there with a pretty notable inmate too. Huh?

A notable inmate you were telling me about. What do you mean? I guess there was a woman from Danbury that killed her baby or something like that. Chop Chop is what they called her. So I guess there was this older woman that was in prison with from Danbury. and she didn't really talk to anyone at all. Like, people just didn't fuck with her because they were just like,

nah, that lady is a beast. I guess she chopped her baby up, her and her husband. They, she had a jealousy over the baby or something. So I guess the baby wasn't crying. The guy comes home from work. He's eating his soup. And he's like, oh, hi, honey. Like, where's the baby?

It's so quiet in here. And he's like, oh, she's like, oh, you're eating the baby. So he's like, speak. the baby out, he called the police, and she was locked up ever since. But, yeah, she was always asked me for her time because I got, like, finally the money to buy my watch because I was tired of asking other people what the time was, so I got my own watch. And she would always ask me what the time was.

And then people were like, oh, my God, did she talk to you? And I was like, like, they couldn't believe that she talked to me. And they were just, like, yeah, don't, they don't fuck with her. Like, Chab Chop Chop's going to be on her sideboard everything. But this lady, she would always make us get on lockdown because she was either stealing some type of screwdriver was one of the events where she was working next to like the maintenance room and she got a screwdriver somehow.

I don't know if she was trying to hurt somebody. I don't know if she was trying to get out. I don't know what she was trying to do. Like Chop Chop did not talk to nobody. So you don't know what this woman's thinking. She's just beating around the room and doing her laps around the day room all day long on repeat and just ask the time. That's it.

Not to anyone else just to me. So we ended up getting switched over and she was on my east side too. And I was just like, she still asked me for the time. People would just be so like, wow. Like she really don't talk to nobody. But she also locked herself in one of those commissary bins one time. So we had a lockdown and we couldn't find the missing inmate. No one could figure out why there was missing inmate.

And since this woman is like, I guess the CEOs must be scared of her or something too because they're like not even thinking about chop chop. but it's like the one dominant person, one little Asian lady that like cut her baby. It's just like, it's just mind-boggling how they didn't know it was her. But it took them like all day. We had like we're sleeping in tubs in the gym, you know, because we can't go back to our rooms until they find who this missing person is.

And then they finally figure out it's this lady and they find her inside of her commentary box. Like I don't know how she pushed yourself in there. But I remember her cellmate had said, And she watched her put herself in there. She said, I didn't say anything. She said, because I don't want any problems when he was scared of her. She was like, she never talks to me. She just watched her crawl in there.

I'm just like envisioning some type of grudge shit. You know, she's just like, yeah. And there you are for a low-level drug offense. Right. With all of this crazy bullshit. I didn't have to go through this. And that's why I was just like, it's fucking insane. Like, I want to laugh about it as much as I can.

It's just comical. It's not funny, but it is at the same time. And it makes you think about how many other people. are in prison for way longer sentences for low level, stuff like that. I have a friend right now who's actually in jail and his girlfriend just passed away because she had Crohn's disease and he's in jail for something that's not even his knee there, which is a really fucked up thing. I actually told him about you because I talked him the other day and he was like, really?

He's like, that's fucking cool, man. I was like, oh yeah. I was like Mike Tyson's like sponsoring his show. He's like, no fucking way. He's like you. He's like always knew you would be like one of those people that do something like this. I was like, I don't even know if I can do this. Like, I'm so awkward and I hate me on camera.

Like, does my double chin look really bad? Like, but I'm excited and I just, like, I'm writing a book about my journey of life. And I'm really actually thankful that you asked me about myself because, like, I mean that defines, like, what you're trying to do. Like, you really are trying to make a difference with people and give them hope. So I appreciate that a lot. Of course. That's what the platform's here for. Yeah, no, it really feels that way.

Like, I feel like everything I'm doing right now, I feel like it's just been all the leap and peace. with God. Like, I've been living by it for the past year. It's been, like, one of the roughest years of my life. I hit rock bottom three times before I got to being, like, where I am right now. So it feels really, really good. But, like, I want to write this book so I can make an autobiography, but I also do want to make it, like, fake as well, too. Like, I got to make it juicy and stuff. You have to keep the comical stuff and just elaborate, you know? But I wanted to make people feel the same way you're trying to do for everyone else to make them feel like encouraged, be able to speak up. And I talk a lot, so when the book drops, I'll let you know what it'll be called, but you'll be

pretty impressed. So I have a plot twist. Did that experience in prison make you never want to go back or did it interest you in committing other crimes? Wasting time. That's one thing I hated doing. So I think that's why I never left my boyfriend I was with for 13 years. Like, you know, I just hate wasting time. Like, fuck it. I can fix it. No, run, girl, run. You know, he should have laughed. But, yeah, I'm just kidding. But, no, I never want to go back there.

Like I said, in the beginning of the show, I don't wish jail on anyone. I think, like, if you are really, like, someone who's hurting children or women or people, I think, like, those people deserve to go to jail. But, like, you know, for something like me, like, I think I should have been overlooked. I think the judge was just mad because I was hanging out

these losers and she's like, I'm going to make an example out of you. So. What was your experience and challenges like after getting out a prison at such a young age, but having this on your record? Truthfully, I've gotten hired from so many jobs. I got hired and then like I go to work the first day. They're like, no, you have to go home. We can't keep you here today.

It was really discouraging. And I think that's why my life has been so hard for the past few years. because it's like I don't even want to do anything anymore like it doesn't matter how great of a person I am like I'm never going to get paid the amount of money I want to get paid for I'm never going to have the job that I want that I'm going to be respected in

it's always going to be someone just giving me a problem because like I'm too well experienced with certain things like try teaching a 41 year old how to change their negative ways about working in the dental field or hygiene they're like fuck you I've been doing this for 25 years like I'm not scraping that blood off of that I'm like, dude, that's fucking nasty.

Like, I can't do this. So that's, like, another reason why I converted to where I am in my job, but I'm very thankful. It's the people you meet, dude. I didn't even get this far with my fucking record. My record has screwed my life over my whole entire life. Like, I got this job out of just being lucky enough to have a friend who was like, dude, you are such a good worker. You do this.

You deserve this. Not to be running around 75 miles per hour every day. But unfortunately, I can't help that. Like, look, I had one cup of coffee. and I can't even stop talking. It's just running. How did you get through those moments? You know, I've been in those moments too where it's very discouraging, you know,

getting hired and then fired because of your criminal record and things like that. Yeah, of course. Fuck, yes. Well, I cried a lot. I actually cried a lot. I cried every time. The only person I cried and called to is my grandma. And I hate that.

So it's like, because my grandma is just like, oh, always like, oh my God, you're never going to get anywhere because of that record. Like, she's like, can't get a sponge? Like, even so to this day, I'm like, mom, don't worry about it. She's like, what happens if you lose your job and you have this great apartment or you get sick and you can't go to work? I guess I'm going to die, ma. But I don't really mean that. But it's like, I can't get her to calm down.

She's so worried about me. But that's how it, that's how it scarred her, you know? Like, she's anything. Like, I'm like, oh, like, you know, the other day she was like, I want to smoke some weed. And she's like, if you would go to the dispensary. He's like, no, I got a friend. She's like, I just stay away from those people. There's stories now.

And I'm like, bah, they still got good prices. Yeah, was it hard to separate yourself from those types of individuals that got you in trouble in your teenage years? It still is. Those people come for me all the time. It's like, it's like I'm the pretty girl. I'm like, you think you could still use me. And it's like, fuck you guys. Like, all of you guys.

And I mean that, like, the best way. I've been taking selfies all year since last year with my like middle finger up. And it really just, it means that. Like fuck all of those people. I don't care. I didn't come. Like fed one of a silver spoon or nothing. And I will always be humble.

And I know who I am and where I came from. I'm not flashy. I fucking buy Target and Walmart stuff. Burlington. Like I'm not Blenciaga or fake Valenciennes. But, you know, like you guys can live whatever mindset you want to. Like a lot of people I've lost a lot of friends and a lot of family even who are like still trying to. Oh, she's.

not anywhere, like near, better. And I'm just like, whoa. Why are you guys so mad at me? Like, this is the happiest in my life I've ever been. I'm 33. I've been through so much. I used to party so much. Like, I love partying.

Like, I was just like, I hated my life so much. I was just like, fuck it. Let's get fucked up. Like, let's go sniff. Let's go drink. Let's go party. Let's go. Like, my friends, like, want to be shaking their asses.

And I'm always like, yes, let's go. Like, I'm the high. man like I'm at the strip club and I'm just like friends with big butts and just like shake it let's you know it's a good time why do you stop drinking because I feel like I just ends up being me around people that don't care about me or just like bad friends that just like I don't need to be around I always end up getting into something I shouldn't get into no one else ends up losing as much as I end up losing type stuff this matter it could be like why to give this person ride home I got treated like shit by like five different people like you know what I mean There's just no advantage of

hanging out with people that really don't care about you Do you see yourself never having a drink again Or are you just waiting to see how it goes? Honestly like I have beer in my fridge right now I just don't want to drink it And I think maybe like having a glass of wine Or something by myself

It's like maybe a thing I might do But I haven't done it yet Like I have the beer in my fridge Because I bought it because I was moving into my new apartment and I like got it for my friend that was helping me. And I opened up one beer, I didn't even finish it. And I just, I think it's so cool, though. Like, you bringing that up, it's just, like, cool because, like, I think it's so cool.

Because, like, I go to happy hour and I get, like, appetizers. And, like, I don't drink. And I get, like, $5 apps. And they're so good. Like, I love. The bill is way cheaper with there's no liquor as long. Hell, yes. I'm not going to lie, though, Maggie McFly's, they will make you a mocktail if you want one.

Oh, that's good. Yeah, they have this hibiscus flour, margarita. But I love their edible flour. That's really why I want it all the time. But, yeah, they'll make it as a mocktail. We'll get some maggie with flies. What do you see yourself doing in the future? What are your plans?

Well, right now with my business, I'm really been locked in. Literally? Legit. With Ian Beck. Yeah, I've been locked in with Ian Pick. And I've been locked into my job, though, for real. I have such a big responsibility of like the roofing and the painting and stuff. It's such an honor.

Hopefully going to be the face of my business because that's where we're working on is doing like some networking. And I might need some help because actually I think you'd probably be a good person to ask for this because you did this by yourself. But we don't want to be like big and fancy. We just want to be a small business. But yeah, we'll talk about that later. But I plan on just helping this man because this man I work for. it's helped my life change. Like he's been the one person that's believed in me

this whole entire time. He's like, he looks so much better than what you used to look like. He's seen me hit rock bottom because I had gone through like some stuff my boyfriend that was dating. I still am dating. We went through like some stuff in.

Let's just say, I won't be seeing her for a while. I don't really want to talk too much about that topic just because there are reasons. There's stuff. going on with that. I can't really get into too much detail until probably later after sentence. But yeah, he knew everything. I was so embarrassed for anyone to know what was going on in my life because I know, again, people were going to judge me. And this time I did not go to jail because I didn't do anything. I wasn't around anything. But it just sucks that the situation happened.

Witnessing him go through the criminal justice system from this point of view, do you now feel how your grandparents felt? Yeah, no, but I feel even worse, like on top of that because it's like, you know, it's really just, I'm so empathetic. Seeing families go through it is the worst. Like I, like I said, when I went to jail, I was more empathetic about how my grandma was going to feel. Like, you know, and I'm looking at this kid and his family and his little brother and his little brother, you know, his cerebral palsy. So it's cerebral palsy, I always say it wrong. But that's his best friend. You know, he, like, when he graduated, he ran to his brother. And it's like, I've never seen that kid run ever.

And he just loves that boy so much. So that really hurts a lot because it's like the system doesn't understand what's going on about how much, like, these things really do affect people's life and not having, like, a sentence on top of that. It's, like, shitty. Like, he's been there for almost a year already. So it's like knowing that thing. There's a lot of corruption, I feel like, when it comes down to stuff. I mean, you witnessed a first hand with that guard?

Always. What do you think it's a life lesson All of these trials and tribulations Have taught you? What have you learned from your experience? More or less than Like your decisions When you alter your reality of things

Like if you Just maybe like Stay away from certain people You won't be classified To certain people But it is like that thing that they say, like, you are who you hang out with. So it's like if you're hanging out with someone,

they're just going to say, hey, that's what they're doing too, which sucks. But, you know, the bigger lesson is that, you know, my family is most important. And I don't really need anything more than that. Having the things on our back and whatever nice to have. But making sure that I'm, like, taking care of myself, my job or just, like, myself, like, most importantly.

Like, I lost myself a lot throughout all this stuff because I was so discouraged with everything. So I feel like I wasn't good enough for so long. And I never really realized that until last year. And I was just like, holy shit, like being sober. And it was like rock bottom sucky. But it also felt so good because it was like I was honest with myself. And I could actually like, you know, determine why like I was feeling certain ways. And it's because I was doing it to myself.

Like, it was just punishing myself as having a pity party every day. Like literally pity party partying and just because of my pity. Like what's wrong with that? You know? But I like felt like I was trying to like talk so much going through all that party and drinking and stuff and no one was fucking hearing me. Like no one. And I'm just surprised that I am here.

Like, you know. You're doing great. Thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah. It's funny because Timeless Johnny is always like, come, come to my show. Wednesday my comedy shows Come drink I have free champagne

I'm like I can't drink But I still show up But yeah it's nice going to things sober Like I've even like It sounds so stupid but I was watching like this girl who like raves all the time sober And like she had a really bad drinking drug addiction

She almost died and like she's like dude I have the best times Like people think I'm high all the time At these raves but it's just like my energy And I'm like dude that's my soul child Like I'm totally just like her. I've always been like this. I've always been talking. I've always gotten trouble in school for talking too much.

Mr. Donovan, I used to sit behind his chair in science class. Oh, God. Yeah, he was a good guy. Yeah. Well, Cassie, I appreciate you coming on the show today. It was great to talk to you. I'm glad you got to share your story. Thank you.

And hopefully it helped you and it was therapeutic for you. It was really cool. Thank you. Yeah, don't second guess yourself. You did great. Thank you. You're welcome. All right.