Locked In with Ian Bick - Inside a Criminal Conspiracy: On the Run from the FBI & Surviving Federal Prison | Daniel Mishiyev
Episode Date: February 16, 2025Daniel Mishiyev shares his experience of getting involved in a criminal conspiracy, going on the run from the FBI, and surviving federal prison. He discusses the events that led to his arrest, the cha...llenges of evading law enforcement, and his time behind bars. Daniel also talks about the impact of incarceration and his journey after prison. #CriminalConspiracy #OnTheRun #FBIManhunt #FederalPrison #TrueCrime #SurvivalStory #LifeBehindBars #JusticeSystem Thank you to ROCKET MONEY for sponsoring today’s episode!: Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to https://rocketmoney.com/lockedin today. Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Connect with Daniel Mishiyev: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/daniel_joseph_mishiyev?igsh=MW10ZWsyOXd6ZXFjeA== Support his business: https://furnituremattressplus.com/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAabhVmgq-lenHyWjkRwYCEOiJiGaxluITl7_ZC0HnM9BIIlILHK8FsGpl-w_aem_v22bV66HAgSWlPmEncVfug Presented by Tyson 2.0 & Wooooo Energy: https://tyson20.com/ https://woooooenergy.com/ Buy Merch: https://www.ianbick.com/shop Use code lockedin at checkout to get 20% off your order Timestamps: 00:00:00 Exploring Incarceration and Injustice 00:09:06 Childhood Challenges and Family Dynamics 00:18:53 How Rocket Money Can Save You Hundreds 00:27:40 Early Life and Challenges 00:36:54 Returning to New York and Family Challenges 00:45:52 Overcoming Childhood Trauma 00:55:15 Life in the Legendary Hip-Hop Era 01:04:15 Encounter with Ghosts and Medication Struggles 01:13:48 A Troubled Past and the Path to Utah 01:23:14 Life in Valhalla Jail: Experiences and Observations 01:32:06 Life in the System: Stories from Behind Bars 01:41:21 Experiencing Prison: A Personal Story 01:50:22 Navigating Parole Challenges and Opportunities 02:00:00 Confrontation and Rights Violation by Police 02:09:14 A Night of Fear and Calling the Police 02:19:21 Understanding Family Estrangement 02:28:11 Inspiring Career Success Stories in the Furniture Industry Powered by: Just Media House : https://www.justmediahouse.com/ Creative direction, design, assets, support by FWRD: https://www.fwrd.co Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Danny, welcome to Lockton.
Thanks, man.
We've been talking about this for, I think, a couple months now.
We were talking on Instagram and glad we could make this happen.
It's a pleasure, you know?
I definitely think that there's a lot that when it comes to situations like incarceration,
I mean, you're doing this now because you were able to actually see what the hell's going on
and a lot of injustices.
I mean, I'm sure when you did your time,
you saw how most of the correctional officers
are more crooked than the actual inmates, you know?
Like, so you got to taste,
and that's why you're doing it.
And you gave me the inspiration to come
and really share my story,
because I got a hell of a one.
You definitely do.
I was reading a bunch of the stuff.
It's always interesting when guys start sending me
like their paperwork and stuff.
And I'm like, dude, I don't need it.
I believe your story.
Anyone that's willing to take the time,
out to come out here and, you know, share all that.
It's up for the viewers to, to form an opinion.
Right.
Not me.
I'm not one of those hosts that are demanded to see some paperwork on the shot on the spot.
It just puts you in an uncomfortable position.
And not only that, you know, something from because of the way I was raised,
being just in doing something like this, just being in front of cameras is something that I'm, even until this day,
still getting used to.
I can't get myself to consistently be able to, like, post or, like, share anything like that.
I mean, because it was just the way that I was born in 1987, all right?
So I'm 37 years old right now.
And from when we, when I was growing up, you know, people want to be away from the cameras.
That's, you know, that's the way I was, the cameras were the enemy.
So it's being the transition into trying to.
And now that I could actually say I'm a reform criminal, all right?
So I could come on here and I could do this now.
And I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to, I'm going to tell my story.
I'm not going to mention any, like, names that shouldn't be mentioned or anything like that.
But, you know, I'm definitely going to, I'm going to tell you, you know, the whole, just the truth, man.
That's what needs to be said is just the truth.
and, you know, because there's also a lot of people that I was raised with that see all the trouble, right?
And from a perspective, if you don't really know what's going on, but you just see the trouble, you know, it makes it.
And, you know, I think that I deserve to be able to just come and get it out there just to, you know, bring awareness also to because that's the main thing.
I really, you know, I don't know how, I want to see a change so bad,
but somebody like me with a criminal record like me, my voice, right?
It doesn't mean anything.
It's very tough.
You know what I'm saying?
But yeah, let's start.
You know, let's start.
I'll go from the beginning in, right?
Floresiers, my friend.
It seems like you're already hyped up.
Upstate New York, right?
Orange County.
A very iconic area, 1969 Woodstock in Bethel, New York.
York was there.
We got Newburgh, New York, Middletown, New York.
We're the A4-5.
So in the feds, we'd be the A-4-5 car, you know?
And, but yeah, definitely I would say iconic area and iconic time that I grew up in
because when I grew up, I grew up into the, you know, I was very into cannabis, right?
That's part of my, I would say, my entrance into the streets.
And, you know, I started using cannabis at 11 years old.
and my environment, I was blessed, I should say,
to be able to grow up some really good people, you know?
Experience isn't an experience without the people that's in the experience.
And I was really blessed to grow up with some really, really great people.
I mean, also there's some shysters and everything,
but the people that are close to me that I could say that I,
that I love.
I got to experience some real genuine people.
So I grew up during the, let's say, $6,000 a pound sour diesel days and Purple Hays, you know.
1999, 2001, when the real sour diesel first just came out and it was $500 an ounce, 0.520s, you know, it's $6,400 a pound.
So that's where sour diesel was going for back then.
You know, right now, weed's going for $1,000 a pound indoor or whatever, you know.
So this is the days when people are actually really making money off of weed.
And also Hayes, too.
You know, we had the iconic Hayes, Washington Heights, right?
First time I ever been to Washington Heights.
I was 13 years old.
I was with two friends of mine.
And we're, what, an hour away from the city, you know?
Never forget this.
I'm 13 years old.
I'm with four white white.
boys, right? Three Irish kids and me. I was born as a Russian Jew, right? And I'm in a Russian
Jew and a shirt, wearing my friend's shirt that says, I love Jesus. And like some moccasins,
right? And we go to this block and they're like, oh, this is the block. This is where the
haze is. And they're all scared to get out and go get the weed. I'm like, I'm like, I, you know what?
I'll go get it. Give me the money, right? So I get out of the car, meet this guy, right? And this is back
when Washington Ice was crazy.
It wasn't a Fourth of July,
but there was fireworks going off like on the block
and shit like that.
Like firecrackers being lit everywhere, you know?
173rd in Audubon, you know, that whole area over there.
So that's, you know, Hayes back then, it was iconic.
You know, everybody, that was it, the Piff, the sour.
I grew up throughout that whole thing.
Cush.
But when I had a, my childhood, I had a wonderful family, fortunate family.
My mother and father came from Russia, and they had a very unfortunate life.
My father was an orphan in Russia.
My mother also had a very tough, abusive, you know, abusive life.
Single parent, you know, she had a father who's abusive, I guess, left.
And, you know, so when they did come, they do arrange marriages there.
You know, my mother and father, they get to, you know, even know each other when they got married.
So, and my dad was also a Soviet Union military, their 1970s, you know, during that time, a sergeant in the Russian Army.
And so he came to America and he started driving a cab in Brooklyn.
Right. And eventually, within a couple years, they left Brooklyn, went upstate to Middletown.
I have an uncle that came a little before my father that started in the furniture business.
So my father was able to, he was blessed. My uncle put him on, right?
And from there, became very successful.
But unfortunately, when success comes, and there's no emotion.
regulation, stability, and there's addiction in the family, you know, because from trauma
comes addiction.
And my father had a traumatic life.
My mother had a traumatic life, but their addiction wasn't drugs or alcohol.
My father has like a gambling addiction.
My mother had like a shopping addiction or whatever else, you know, she was doing.
But nothing, nothing chemically.
But, you know, it took me a while to really understand.
I have to go through a lot of healing and learning myself to really understand the life that I went through.
You know, so once a divorce happens, and it's kind of unheard of from where we're Gorski Jews.
I don't know if, from Azerbaijan, Baku Azerbaijan, which is on the border of Armenia, Turkey, is right there in the Caucasus Mountains.
So we're Gorski Mountain Jews.
and for a family to be split like that
it's almost unheard of in a way
because it's very cultural
and when it did happen
it was very
tough. I was around seven to nine years old
and my father got remarried
within two weeks after the divorce
arranged marriage again
my mother
she was just wanted to have a life
you know being able to date
and try to find
find true love, I guess.
So at these times,
you know, my father,
he was an orphan,
his mother died,
his father got remarried,
they gave him away to an orphanage.
So I guess the way that I look at it is
because it happened to my father
and with his new wife,
because she didn't accept us,
he thought it was just normal
to just be like, okay, you know what?
It's, you know,
to step back kind of in a way.
But he was present there financially, right?
But I didn't have the, from around the age nine years old,
I didn't have the pleasure of having parents
sleeping in the house anymore.
You know, so my mother was never home.
She worked two jobs.
And then, you know, she had her social life
and stuff like that.
So I became on my own from a very young age, very young.
So now to around 10, 11 years old,
I would say sixth grade is when I would say I jumped off the porch, they call it.
You know?
And, you know, what's really important is marijuana, right?
People don't understand now how back in these days people's lives really got affected.
And my life was one of those.
I lost my whole childhood from basically marijuana,
put in institutions and everything.
So the weed, 11 years old, by time 12, 13 years old comes.
This is in Gosha, New York, upstate New York, you know,
and it's a town like a hippie town, you know.
It was a high school where people were smoking,
literally smoking blunts in the bathroom, you know?
I don't know.
This wouldn't happen these days, but it was like one of those type of schools
where there was just, you know, people smoking cigarettes in the bathroom.
Like, and there was, you know, it was different.
So now when I go to Tampa, Florida, which is my transition,
so because of the lack of supervision that was at home,
I was doing terrible in school, right?
I was failing school.
I think the last grade that I passed was fifth grade.
Sixth grade I got forced pass.
Seventh grade I got forced pass.
Eighth grade I got forced pass.
So whenever I used to go to school, I was completely behind.
And because of everything that was going on at home, I was always in the cloud.
So I know school was not going to be my future, you know?
I want to make sure I don't miss any, like, important points here.
So I would say now when eighth grade comes,
this is when I think that things really starting to get drastic
because I had an incident where I actually died from alcohol.
The first time I ever drank alcohol,
I'm at a party.
And, of course, as a kid, you know, I'm a kid.
I never drank before.
I don't know how you got to drink it,
how long it's going to take the kick in, right?
I drink 20 shots back to back of Smyranoff Vaka.
I think I was like maybe 85 pounds or 90 pounds.
Small kid, you know?
And next, you know, next thing you know,
I wake up and my, they told me a heart.
stop beating.
0.36 blood alcohol level.
And so the alcohol poisoning from there.
And then at that party, there was like weed.
And everybody stuffed the weed in my pockets.
So I guess the cops came, found the weed and a pipe in my pockets and shit like that.
And so that was really like the first running with the law,
but it really didn't turn into anything because we were so young.
but then ninth grade comes
and then there's something called
this is very important.
Now we're getting to the important part.
I call it the training.
Okay?
The training grounds for the justice system
is the juvenile justice system.
Family court.
All right?
Pins petition.
These are all things that
are, I, I really firmly believe are fundamentally meant for children to keep repeating back in and out, in and out.
And now, back then marijuana was looked as a drug, right?
And you got to kind of look at it this way.
As kids, now these are kids, we're talking about 13 years old, 12 years old, 13 years old, 13 years old.
For a kid that's just experiencing with marijuana, right?
Let's say if you put him into a substance abuse program,
they're going to tell this kid that he's an addict.
They're going to put him into any programs.
And listen, I have nothing against NA.
I think sobriety is a beautiful thing, okay?
But it's a little old school.
All right.
You know, there's people that that use cannabis for a medical reason.
And if they went into Narcotics Anonymous, they're like shunned or they don't get the same respect as somebody else that's in there.
Let's say that's our methadone.
Right.
And I think that has to be updated.
And I'm also a firm believer that whatever you tell yourself you are, that's where you're going to be.
And to implant that into children, you're teaching them that you have to surrender, right?
You have to go by this program.
You are powerless, right?
And you can't fight.
That's what I was taught as a kid when I was going through these institutions.
And the way that I got into these programs was not through pins.
I went through pins for a little bit.
it didn't last long.
What ended up happening was
my mother ended up
because things were getting so crazy
my mother ended up sending me
and I have a brother that's a year and a half older than me
to live with my oldest brother
that's 10 years older
in Tampa, Florida.
And by this time
you know, we
jumped off the porch.
Right? Let's say that.
But it was just weed though.
no hard drugs or anything.
But it was just weed.
And when we get, and wait, this is very important too.
Before we get sent to Tampa, Florida,
we were friends with somebody.
I think that's really important to mention
that influenced our lives from a young age.
Malcolm X's grandson, Malcolm Shabazz.
He passed away in Mexico.
So I was fortunate enough to grow up
with Malcolm Shabazz Jr. or the grandson, you know, Malcolm Shabazz's grandson, the one that
allegedly burned down to grandmother's house in Queens. So me and Malcolm, Malcolm came on
house arrest from that whole incident that happened. His mother lived upstate in Middletown,
and he ended up going to Goshen schools. And when we were younger, to hang out over there was the mall.
So in the mall is where all the gang like this is where the bloods were.
Malcolm was a blood, right?
And so that's where, you know, for I think it was maybe 11 years old at that time.
And I was hanging out with Malcolm.
And, you know, my main thing is when I was a criminal, I just hustled.
But when I was a kid, I experienced, right,
with stealing one time.
This is back in 2001.
This is when Tony Hawk just first came out.
I don't know if the first PlayStation Tony Hawk.
Of course, yeah.
Right.
There was a store called FYE.
Yeah, we used to have one at the mall here.
I used to love getting movie posters to put in my bedroom from FYE.
Right.
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Before, listen, I know when I got sentenced in the feds, all right, they told me anything before the year, before 2012 that I can't.
I'm not, I'm not guilty for anything.
Whatever I happen, right?
Isn't that how it works?
You know what I'm talking about?
When you plead guilty in the feds, you're pleading guilty to any crimes.
Whatever's in the indictment, yeah.
Well, they can't charge you for anything before that, like if it's a conspiracy or whatever.
So I don't give you.
This was, I was really young anyway.
All right.
So we had bubble coats back then, right?
You know, those big, like, fluffy bubble coats.
They had the things tighten on the side.
We would go into FYE.
And I was, this is, I'm like maybe 10, 11 years old.
I'm like, small kid, you know, I'm really small.
You never think anything of it.
But with the big oversized coat, we go in there, we stuff in hundreds of DVDs,
PlayStation games into the coat.
And since it's tight on the sides, right?
They're not falling out.
And this is back in the day when, you know, the style was big clothes, you know.
I remember they were echo jackets, if I'm not mistaken.
And literally, we would go in, boom, boom, stuff everything up
and just walk right around the metal detector.
And it wouldn't be, we did that for about a month.
You know, this is a long time ago.
But because there was so many people doing it, I mean, these bloods,
the blood kids were doing it too, right?
Malcolm, his boys were doing it.
Malcolm's dead, so I'm going to say Malcolm's name, you know?
Rest in peace, Malcolm.
And I would say hundreds of thousand dollars worth of merchandise.
Crazy.
I'm talking about CDs, DVDs, you know, PlayStation games, you name it.
And we were going in and out, in and out.
And now there was one time, right next to it was a series.
And I was with a best friend of mine that I grew up with.
Um, his name is Upgrade.
Upgrades, he's a, um, he's a musician.
He does, like, hip hop and stuff like that.
He's independent.
Actually, I think he's not with somebody now, but he does, uh, like, uh, underground hip hop.
So he was my, uh, my best friend growing up as a kid, and he was with me on one of these things that we, you know,
I was seeing like walkie talkies or something like that.
And the reason why I was in the mall all the time, because my mother was a manager at Finleans,
which was in the mall.
So whenever she'd go to the, bring her, you know,
she had to work and she was, you know, worked full time.
She just leaves us and more.
We walk around, you know, getting in trouble and shit like that.
So that's what, you know, with the main reason that we were there all the time doing all this at that young age, you know,
I don't want people who think that, you know.
But my friend, so we got caught, me and my friend.
And I knew that this not what he, you know, this is his first time.
I basically told him, was like, listen, he had nothing to do with this.
It was everything was mine, whatever.
They kick me out of the mall for like two, three years or something like that, right?
So since then, never again have I stole from anybody, anything I don't steal.
It's the worst thing that anybody can do, you know?
It's like such a low, low life thing to do.
And I'm so against it.
And especially because in my life I've been robbed, you know, so many times by so many close people to me.
And I think it's just like the worst thing that anybody,
could do, you know? So I'm happy that
happened to me at such a young age, you know,
but I was experiencing, I was around people,
you know, where they say, monkey see, monkey do
kind of situation, right?
And so after
this goes on, whatever, school is
no good. Now,
I did also try cocaine for the
first time in eighth grade also.
Yeah, that was like, it wasn't
everyday thing, but 13 was the first
time that I tried cocaine as well.
So now, ninth grade, I failed.
I get sent down to Tampa, Florida.
Shout out to Tampa.
I moved to a neighborhood called Carver City,
me and my brother, David,
and it was Jefferson High School I went to,
which is a fucking amazing high school.
You got some of the best players that's ever came out of there.
Fred McGriff.
You got, what's his name,
Caldwell's, Andre Carwell, Rashid Cowwell.
I went to school with the younger one.
and so we moved to a neighborhood there
and now mind you,
I came from the school in New York
where everybody's smoking blunts in the bathroom, right?
And the demographics were a little different too.
And the school that I was in in Goshen, New York,
I'm a Russian Jew.
I was a minority, right?
Most of it was white,
5% black, another 5% Spanish.
Now when I moved to Tampa,
it's the complete opposite.
It's like 40% Cuban, 40% black, 5% white, 5% maybe Asian and whatever the case may be.
So completely different.
And so I went into this place thinking that I'm going to be doing the same shit just like in New York.
Oh, I found out real quick.
This didn't last long.
Oh, man.
And I should probably apologize.
to this kid on this podcast right here.
You know, there was this kid, Ricky.
He gave me some weed to roll up for him.
And honestly, that shit was like the most garbage, garbage fucking weed
I've ever seen my life.
Tampa had some trash weed back in the day.
Well, not it.
It was the hood.
All right.
And where I lived was Carver City.
Shout out to Carver City, man.
I know people are going to see me probably on this.
So Carver Sea was an amazing place to grow up.
I definitely
shaped who I am as a person today
and that's my
I call it my second home
you know
and so Ricky gives me a bag of weed
to roll I go in the bathroom store
and I open the bathroom store
the fucking principals right there
like looking at me
and I forgot the fuck
I forgot to flutch the guts in the bathroom
right and I just run
right as soon as I run
I throw the bag of
weed to the left and I think
I had
I took some weed out of the bag
I put it in a piece of paper and I put it in my underwear
for later for myself
but then I threw the blunt and the other thing
and then a friend of mine grabbed it but
that was the first time that I got arrested
in Tampa and they took me to the Jack Center
they have a place called the Jack Center
when you get arrested in Tampa is for juveniles they bring you there
you sit in a chair they process you
and if you're going to be going to
the juvenile hall,
they take a bus from you there.
If you're not going,
then you get picked up by your parents
or what a case may be.
That time,
I didn't go to the juvenile hall.
So they let me go.
They put me on a probation for it.
No big deal.
But I want to apologize to Ricky
because the next time I saw Ricky
I fucking punched him in his mouth,
you know, broke his braces and shit.
And then I think he left the school from that.
And, you know, growing up now,
I've really,
feel terrible,
ignorant for it,
you know?
And I just want to apologize to you,
Ricky,
if you see this,
right?
And so now,
this is where I also got introduced
to,
this area,
this neighborhood was a crack area,
all right?
So this is when I started
selling crack in 2002.
$90 a April.
Back then in Florida,
completely different than New York.
You know,
New York people would,
bag it up in bags and stuff like that.
In Florida, it was just like a square.
You cut it up with razors and you hold it in your hands
and you just stand on a corner type of thing, you know?
There was a Texaco by my house.
And that's where I would just sit there
and at the Texaco and I had a neighbor of mine
that basically, you know,
would show me everything how to do it.
And that's how that started off.
But that's, yeah, I,
And my brother, that's a year and a half older than me,
ended up actually getting in trouble because of this.
So, and I also want to put DRO back then, Hydro,
Goodweed was not around.
I brought Goodweed to Carver City, right?
So everything back then was like mids, you know,
with seeds and stuff like that.
People go to the projects.
You know, projects in Florida is the type of, you go in,
one way in, one way out.
When you want in, you got 20 people,
running up to your window trying to serve you type of idea, you know?
So that's like the culture down there.
But now my brother ended up going to a military school.
And then something happened, man.
You know, I really, something fucked up happened.
Now when I moved on my brother, my brother was in, is, uh, owned a nightclub.
He was a DJ.
So it was like I moved into a studio
You know and just where everybody there smoking weed all the time
So it was a right for me to smoke weed
There wasn't a problem
You know my brother didn't mind
But something happened where I think my brother went for child support
And bro this is this is a really fucked up situation
Now this is
This is what a lot of people don't know about me.
A lot of people know that I've been in trouble and everything like that.
But the first time that I've ever really been to jail
was over a child support dispute for my brother and my mother.
My brother filed for child support
because my mother wasn't paying child support.
My father was.
And when my mother sent me there,
she did it through a guardianship letter.
She didn't do it through the court.
So she still had full custody of me.
that's where it made her able to do this.
So in order for me to get into school in Tampa,
they required a letter stating that my brother had temporary guardianship,
which was notarized.
It wasn't done by the court.
It was an illegal document.
So when my brother did this,
you know, my mother's not a smart person.
She's from Russia.
He's not educated.
And I can't blame her for this, you know?
And I honestly,
I know it was my stepfather, you know, because he was an American man.
And the future things that happened showed me that it was him that really did this to me.
So basically he had my mother lie and said that I ran away in order to duck the child support situation.
They write this report in Orange County, New York, basically saying that I ran away.
I have the paperwork in a car.
It was like a situation like this.
I got sent down there in the school year of 2002, and by 2003 August, she wrote a report saying that I just left New York a year later in the report.
and ran away to Florida.
So they came and locked me up.
They put, I went back to that jack center, right?
But this time they put me on a bus to go to the DFI, Juvenile Hall.
And, man, this was quite an experience.
First place I had grits.
I'll tell you that.
But what comes to,
to my mind is how inhumane okay there were so many kids that there had to be three kids in a cell
and the way that the cells were there was um like a bed on each side it wasn't a bunk
but they were like you know those um things and they put the mattress on top of it almost like the
porcelain. It wasn't metal
but it was like an old school
like
you got a bed on each side and then you got a
mattress in the middle, right? So you got
three kids in a cell and then in the day room
when I got there I got there like 3 o'clock
in the morning and I had to just
pull a mattress up and sleep on the day room.
The day room was filled
also to full capacity
with kids in the day room just sleeping on a
regular jail green mattress
and a little thin blanket
and in Florida at this time,
I remember when we woke up the next day,
they do showers,
they make all the kids get butt naked, right?
I think there was probably like 50 or 60 kids in this unit.
And you have to stand up against the wall.
And they put five people in a shower at a time.
And they, um,
the CEO, one of the CEOs was a Haitian dude.
The other one was a, a,
Spanish dude that look like Marcus O'Reilly.
What do you call from Gladiator?
You know, the guy, Marcus O'Reilly is the Gladiator guy?
I don't know if you were seen Gladiator.
I don't know if you're seeing like Bits and Pieces.
I know what movie are talking about.
The main guy, you know, he looked exactly like him.
So you got this Haitian dude, right?
They're screaming and all this shit.
You got five minutes to take a shower.
And the showers were just the sprinkler heads.
But when you're lined up, I remember very vividly.
When I was lined up, the first time I got lined up,
I seen a few kids' backs from the fire ants.
Oh my God, bro.
Welts all over their backs, all up and down.
Like, I couldn't believe it, you know?
I've never seen anything like that in my life.
And it was just disgusting.
They had no clean sweaters.
If a kid left, they would have to take the sweater from the kid that was leaving.
and like you just smell it
like it hasn't been clean
in the fucking like five years
like just disgusting shit you know
so you go in the shower
five at a time
you come out
you sit on the thing
they give you the deodorant
the baby um
baby powder you know
sit in a row
you put the thing
and you know of course
with the kid
in these juvenile
um ones they don't got
commissary you know
you get you just a meal
and a breakfast
and your lunch
dinner you get your yard
um
And I'm, wow.
This is where I, the first time I actually seen, like a CEO beat the shit out of somebody was here too.
They have a gang in Tampa called the Drag Boys, all right?
They were known to be out of the East Tampa projects, if I'm not mistaken,
which used to be the Pink Houses, East Tampa.
And they ran this juvenile hall, the drag boys.
and there was this one kid
he was probably
he was probably 15, 16 years old
but he was a big kid
maybe like 200 pounds
CO fuck I don't know what happened
but this is the first time I seen a CO
literally smashing the kid's fucking mouth
was bleeding everywhere
the way he restrained him
and just slamming his face
into the ground
I was on the phone at the time
talking to my sister too
that you know
I don't think that ever left my mom
because, you know, you got to remember, I'm 14 years old at this time.
I'm 14 years old.
And believe it or not, you know, just because I smoked weed and everything like that,
I was a pretty innocent kid.
You know, I grew up in a Russian Jewish home.
You know, my mother was when I did have the experience
to having, like, a really close family.
And so I had like all, so this was a very shocking situation, you know?
Very shocking.
But I remember going to court.
my brother brought the guardianship letter
shows it to the judge
and the judge is paid in no mind
my brother didn't want to get a lawyer
he wanted to represent me
my brother's a fucking
he's that type of person
just like a hardheaded
thinks he's so smart
and you know
we went to court three times
and every time
he just would not look at that guardianship letter
so they end up
keeping me there
I think it was about like a
month and a half, two months.
They end up, and I was waiting, this whole time I'm waiting for the Orange County
sheriffs to come and get me, transport me back to New York.
I get out of, about a month and a half, two months, my mother ends up releasing it,
everything gets done.
I end up going back to New York very shortly after this.
My brother comes out of the military school.
And when he came out, the people in the, people in the city.
neighborhood kind of almost like he started doing exactly what I was doing and it was
it didn't take till later so people realized that we were two different people you know because
we were so close in age and we looked like almost like twins um but my brother ended up getting
arrested for a crack sale so like I like dodged that and then my boy uh John John also very
short after that, conspiracy, distribute
cocaine. Fuck, man.
You know, good friend of mine also,
and he had a really bad luck, man.
He did almost 10 years
for that charge, came home, was home for six months.
Another conspiracy, another 10 years.
Those are federal cases?
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State.
Oh, state kids.
Those are state Florida.
And how old were you?
Like a teenager at the time?
At this time, I wasn't even involved in it, but they were just probably David 18.
I'm probably like 16
Me and my brother like a year and a half apart
Something like that
I got my license in Tampa too at 15 years old
Do you end up leaving Tampa to come back here?
I do that's the thing
Me and my brother end up separating
Right
So after that situation where I got
With the juvenile hole situation
I ended up going back to fucking New York
And I had a conversation with my mother
Right
She actually came to Florida
And she was like
know, I want you to come back and everything.
I was like, all right, I'm going to come back.
I had a conversation around.
I was like, listen, you know, can you not ask for child support?
I mean, is it like that big of a deal?
And, you know, they didn't, you know, I had parents that involved us in a divorce, involved us in everything.
And I had a stepmother that would not like even want my father to bias anything just because he paid child support.
and she was on her alienation and all that types of stuff and separation.
So it was always constant.
I was the youngest out of my mother's kids.
And I was always involved of the child support this, this, that, you know, like it was, it became, it ended up being the reason why I ended up getting arrested later down the road.
later down the road.
So when I came back, my mother agrees to me.
I'm not going to ask for child support, right?
I guess like two weeks goes by.
My father calls me
and tells me my mother's calling him for money.
I blew the fuck up, right?
And at this time I'm 15 years old.
So I end up getting removed from the police.
They call the cops.
Stepfather calls the cops.
Cops removed me.
They bring me to police station.
the runaway charges get brought back up.
Can't make this up, bro.
All right?
They tell me you have court coming up three, four days.
And at this time, I can't even, I can't stay with my father.
My father lives 10 miles away.
But because of the situation with his wife
and because she was old-fashioned at the time,
and whenever I went there, she really did,
she made me feel uncomfortable.
You know, she would tell me my mother was a whore.
My mother didn't want me.
And I'm, you know, at these time when she was telling me there's a young kid, like, you know, so she was fucking me up in the head, you know, and I didn't feel comfortable there.
So when the cops removed me, they bring me to the Greenville State Trooper Barracks, and they cuff me to the thing.
And I remember this very clearly.
And I'm talking shit.
I'm a young kid, right?
I'm like, I'm literally, I'm talking shit.
you know, I'm 15 years old.
I'm fuck, but I was in the streets already, you know.
So I'm talking to them pretty ratchet, right?
And one of them comes up to me and fucking choked,
puts their hands around my neck and chokes me out, bro.
I swear to God.
This is, you know, back in probably 2000.
I, you know, remember to Janet Jackson Super Bowl where her titty fell out?
Yeah.
All right, this is around that time.
Because this is when I ended up going to Family Corps a couple days.
after I ended up getting institutionalized so they decided to take me into social
services cut whatever they call a custody right and they my first stop was the
state hospital psychiatric center in Orangeburg New York Rockland County
Children's Psychiatric Center holy shit man so what happens after that how long
are you in there for all right you know
When I got in there, I was fucking pissed.
Now, how it got me, how this happened, I went to court,
and my mother goes on a stand and starts lying and saying that I was threatening to kill her.
Did you?
No.
At this point, absolutely not.
She was saying that I was threatening to kill her,
and I was threatening to kill her husband, all types of lies.
and because I knew she was lying, the emotions in me,
and also because of what happened just a few months before this,
I got incarcerated, you know, down there.
I picked up a pen off the table.
I stood up and I looked at the judge and I says,
if she doesn't stop lying, Your Honor,
I'm going to put this pen in my throat.
In your throat or her throat?
In my throat.
So that's what got you institutionalized?
Into the psychiatric center.
They had plans to put me in a group home, but that got me first step right there to the psychiatric center.
Okay.
Now, why this is so terrible?
Because I end up getting misdiagnosed, right?
Because of the fact that, you know, my mother couldn't take accountability for the neglect and abuse and everything that I was going through through my childhood.
The psychiatrist got a story from her that protected her image.
So they end up putting me on medications that I shouldn't have been on.
And the first three days I got in there, I was bucking.
I'm bugging out.
As soon as I got in there, alarms, like, because I'm going crazy.
So the alarms go off.
They hit the alarms.
Everybody comes.
They restrain me.
Needle.
Boom, right in the butt.
Thorazine, I think they called it, right?
Now this started, there was, now this became a problem.
I'm going to tell you why.
Every single time I woke up, I was in shock that I was there.
and I would spaz the fuck out
and it kept happening.
I'm going to take an estimate maybe three days,
maybe three to five days
until somebody came up to me,
this kid that was also in there
and told me, he was like,
listen, you can't keep doing this, bro,
if you want to get out of here, you know?
Now I'm starting to get schooled, right?
The kid tells me he's like,
just do whatever they say
and that's what's going to get you out of here.
He's like, and he gave me a cookie, you know?
I remember that.
And so that's when I started to learn.
I'm like, okay, I got to do what I got to do.
So they put me on a Zoloft.
They put me on a drug called Risputtol.
And they diagnosed me with bipolar disorder.
They diagnosed me with, I forgot what else.
Something else.
Some type of anti-s, I don't know what the antipsychotic was for,
but I learned in the future that they definitely were false diagnosis, you know.
And because I had marijuana in my system, when I got out of this place, I ended up going to like a rehab and stuff like that.
But so for the next month and a half, I'm in this place.
And I'm seeing how everything's going.
It's a fucked up situation, though, psychiatric centers with kids.
Because they're designed to, like, make these kids not leave in a way, you know?
And most of them are coming from broken homes.
You know, most of it, most of these kids are in these places.
believe it not, it's the fucking parents
that should be in fucking jail.
You know what I'm saying?
Because without neglect,
without trauma, without abuse,
most likely these things are,
I know from my situation,
you know,
we had a very close family growing up
and since I was the youngest, right?
I had a brother that was a year and a half older than me
that fucking put his hands on me
every single day of my life, you know?
And I know how that affected me.
You know what I'm saying?
And I didn't really learn how much it affected me until the future until I actually started healing.
But that's supposed to be brought up.
Like, hey, listen, you know, keeping those secrets only make things worse, right?
So that's what I kind of, I've learned that most of my issue I've learned now that I've had complex trauma since the child.
Since a child, I know I used to go to the doctors when I was a baby for night terrors and stuff like that.
I remember, like, I used to have these nightmares that would make me cry in my sleep.
And I still, to this day, you know, my girlfriends would tell me that when I'm sleeping, I'd be screaming in my sleep and crying in my sleep and stuff like that.
And that's from trauma.
And trauma is in my family so deeply because of everything that my father was grown up in a Muslim orphanage in the 19th.
1950s and 60s in the Soviet Union.
Can you imagine that?
You know?
And, you know, my mother, too, you know,
their toilets were holes in the ground.
And they shared a toilet with a community of 50 people
and stuff like that.
So they're, and it's hard
because when you're coming from that culture,
part of the culture is they don't believe in psychology.
They don't believe in healing.
They don't believe in talking about your problems and healing the right way.
So that's like a recipe for disaster, you know, especially in a place where, you know, in America and you make money and your family would never be together and healthy without any type of emotion, emotional regulation or literacy, you know.
It just didn't happen.
That was the main issue with my family.
None of us had emotional regulation literacy.
None of us knew what boundaries were.
You know what I'm saying?
And those are really important things to learn growing up.
So do you end up going back to live with them after?
I don't.
Okay.
So I get out of the psychiatric center and I go to group home.
Group home and this is a non-secure detention.
I'm there for about three months.
Then they send me to a place up in the cat.
By Kingston, Woodstock, Kingston up in that area called Never Alone.
It's a 90-day rehab.
And at that time, I was 15 years old.
And in that 90-day rehab, they were going to make the decision where I was going to be going next.
And from there, everybody was there for weed, first of all.
All right?
I can't tell you how much cannabis is not a drug.
drug, okay? A drug is something that stops you from feeling. All right? Cannabis doesn't stop you from feeling,
you know? In fact, I think it actually gets you more in tune with your feelings and helps you even
explore them. I mean, cannabis is a tool of tools. I mean, especially in prison. Oh, my God. That's when
I learned I was able to smoke weed and work out and use it as like a motivation to be able to
work out in prison, you know? Before that, I was like, I didn't know you could smoke weed,
throw the headphones on, and go hit the pull-up bar, and it's the most motivating thing in the
world, you know? And it's, it is. It's, um, it's not for everybody, though. Let's put that up front,
right? It's definitely not for everybody. Um, but we do know that it heals trauma. And for,
for so many years, the government has been traumatizing, right? Monetizing.
and taking away the cure or the treatment.
You know what I'm saying?
And punishing you for treating yourself, you know?
And so I ended up talking my way out of this 90-day program
and telling them I'm going back to Florida, right?
Because now I didn't trust my parents to stay away.
I'm not going away.
There's no two ways in hell that I was going back there.
I went back to Tampa.
I told him I was going to go to the same military school as my brother.
And shit.
And at this time, I think this is when I started probably using cocaine more, you know.
So when I got down to Tampa, my brother and my buddy John John, bad influences.
You know, we sniff and blow with girls in a hotel room for the weekend.
and I had to take a drug test
to get into this fucking military school
in Gainesville, you know?
And deep down, I really didn't want to go anyway.
You know what I'm saying?
I was like, fuck that, you know?
So anyway, I end up taking the trip
and I failed a fucking drug test.
My sister is the one that took me to the thing.
I drove three hours.
I go back to Tampa and they're like,
listen, you're not staying here, you know?
Because I'm not going to front.
I was a wild boy.
You know what I mean?
I was.
I was a wild boy.
I was in streets, bro, you know?
As a young kid, I was really kind of in the streets.
And they knew I couldn't stay there.
I also started experiencing with ecstasy also.
I think the year 2000, the first time I ever took a ecstasy pill.
So during this time when I was in Tampa,
I was hanging out with like stick up kids.
And I was taking these crazy green sunshine e-pills that were down there
I was just fucking the size of alt-toids and shit.
I'm like 14 years old, 15 years old.
And, you know, the people that I was hanging out with probably,
it probably wasn't the best that I was staying down there.
So I end up going back and I end up staying,
going into like a homeless, like kind of situation.
Now I'm moving in with, like, friends that I grew up with.
And my pops did look out.
He got me a little Cadillac DeVille, right, for five grand.
and that's when I started like that's when the hustling started you know like the real coming back to
New York is when we really got them once I got the car and everything like that and met some really
good people along the way and what are you hustling?
Weed at this time mostly weed the blow was there also but it you know I'm just getting at this time
schooled on the blow.
my boy Diego
Diego is a fucking legend
All right
Diego came from Columbia
Um
He was a gorilla from Columbia
Got deported like three times from America
You know just kept coming back
And
Diego was also one of the people
I think that first track hook came
When I was like 12 years old with too
You know
But
So I would hang out with Diego every day
And then I would also hang out
it was a very
See, we weren't segregated
Growing up in Orange County, New York,
in upstate New York,
you know, it wasn't segregated.
You know, I was hanging out with all types of people.
I had bloods that were my friends.
I had Colombians that were my friends.
You know what I'm saying?
I got Irish people that were my friends, you know?
There was no discrimination.
It was just really just like who you were as a person.
And, you know, so at this time, you know,
grams were I'm sure probably around $30 a gram,
but what Diego would do is he would give me half grams for $30, right?
And we would sell him for 50.
So let's say I knew somebody that wanted a couple of 50s or whatever.
He basically sell me to grant for $60 and then I end up selling the gram for $100 and make it $40, right?
So this was like 15, 16 years old.
But at the time, the main hustle was weed, right?
And then my first charge coming back from New York, I ended up getting arrested.
I got caught with eight pounds a week coming back from Staten Island when I was 16 years old.
And so that's when it got me back right back into the justice system, you know.
And so it's like, you know, in and out road.
But it was a lot of experience.
This was 2005.
So this was also a legendary time, right?
You know, this was like shit.
young jeezie
thug motivation
101 days
this is when
Big Meach was still out
doing his things
right before he got arrested
you know what I'm saying
Pill popping
was at the highest ever
fucking everybody's popping
ecstasy and taking Molly
and you know
nobody's dying off of fetton all
and shit like that
and but quickly
I progressed into selling other things
so
from the weed
I started
I remember there was this
one customer that even till this day, I really believe he was maybe even like a CIA agent.
I swear to God.
And the reason what makes me think this, okay, I got introduced to him by somebody and it was
always a really weird strange situation.
For weed, right?
And this is at the time when I guess, like, percocets and Vicodin and oxycodone is just like,
I guess, starting to get popular, but I still never heard of it.
So I would meet this guy and I would give him like $50 worth of the weed and he'd give me a whole fucking jar filled with oxycan and bike it in and shit like that.
And once I realized, okay, I'm giving this guy a $50 worth of weed and he's giving me like $6,700 worth of pills.
Does he know that?
Like, because once people are telling me what it is and stuff like that, you know.
So, which I really regret.
The opiate hustle is, if anything, I regret in life,
because I really don't have much regrets, right?
I regret, for sure, ever being involved with any type of opiates.
And the karma that came onto my life from selling these types of drugs lasted a very long time, you know?
and I know that's what it is
because when you're selling a drug like that
you're killing somebody
right you're making somebody sick
you're praying on their vulnerability
and it's a terrible thing to do
right
and I also want to say that
you know as a kid with no supervision
I was very influenced by
of course hip hop music
right
when I'm in these psychiatric centers
I'm listening to DJ Vlad
fucking Tupac rock phenomenon
and you know
Tupac and Memphis Bleak and you know um so as a kid whenever you know I didn't have my parents around
that's where you know Wu-Tang clan and stuff like that so I mean this is already known
where hip-hop music does but you know when I look back at it how much it influenced my life
and influenced um the life that I thought that was the right life to go to to be cool and everything
that. It's very, it can take over your brain, man, especially if you don't got a role model.
If you're a kid looking for a role model and you don't got one, right? And you're desperate for
one, that's where you're going to idolize. You're going to idolize like the music. You're going to
idolize TV and shit like that. And, you know, I know I'm not the only one that's that's
happened to. You know what I mean? Of course, living in New York with the music, the culture, you know,
at this time, Jay Z, Nas and all this, you know,
but not having any parental structure
to guide me.
And, you know, I think that was really the,
really got me really caught up into thinking that this is real life, right?
And this is how I have to live.
Because that's exactly what I did.
And so at 16 after I got caught with these eight pounds of weed,
I started getting my first experience with psychosis.
You know, psychosis is a big part of my story, yeah, unfortunately.
And I didn't realize it until very recently, but cocaine and trauma are enemies.
You give cocaine to somebody that's traumatized, it's not going to be good.
Because trauma people already have problems dealing with fight or flight.
And majority of the time, it's easy for somebody to get into the flight mode, right?
So you do a bump of cocaine and you have complex trauma, you're automatically just going to be anxious.
You're going to be worried.
You're not going to be able to enjoy yourself, you know?
And I can't tell you the shit that I put myself with psychosis, you know?
And, you know, this is important to say too, because not only even a lot of people who even know what this term.
term is. I mean, shit, I'm not the first one that started hallucinating off of cocaine, you know?
That's just been happening since back in the 80s since people have been smoking crack and shit like that, you know? So, but the term is called psychosis, all right? And it's, you know, drug-induced psychosis. And it could be potentially, um, very, um, detrimental. It could hurt somebody. You can hurt yourself. And, um, it's, that's part of the, you know,
since 2022.
I haven't touched cocaine since.
And I, you know, I'm scared to death of it.
And I know I'm allergic to it.
You know what I'm saying?
So, but going back to 16 now,
I'm not in school.
I'm on probation, okay?
I'm back on probation.
Because of the juvenile history,
they put me on intensive supervision probation.
And I got charged with a defelony,
which is criminal possession of marijuana, right?
De felony, which was punishable up to,
I think it was like two and a half to seven years in state prison.
I copped out to Oyo, due full defender.
They gave me five years intensive supervision.
And I was also with a best friend of mine.
I'm not going to mention his name, right?
But his brother was also my best friend.
His mother, these people were so influential into my life.
his mother and his brother both passed away.
And they were Irish, Irish from Brooklyn, you know, old school Irish from Brooklyn.
And, wow, just amazing people.
So he ended up, and he was a few years older to me, of course.
You know, I always hung out with the older people, I guess, because you know what I was doing.
So he was about four years older than me.
But we were like, you know, best friends, brothers, we together every day.
So he ended up getting a county year.
He took a county year in jail.
I ended up doing the five years intensive supervision.
And I'm home for a couple months.
So, you know, at this time, I wasn't like doing cocaine every day.
But now since probation, you know, I can't have marijuana in my system because it's in my system for 30 days.
Let me try to do something that's going to be out of my system quicker.
I mean, and it's like that's what they, probation knows what they're doing, you know?
They used weed in a way.
way to, as a gateway to get people to use other drugs.
And that's the way I feel about the probation system before marijuana was legal.
And even till this day, which we're going to get to in a little bit, they're still trying
to use marijuana to, again, and I'll get to it in a minute.
But so my probably first month on probation, I end up going on, but my buddy Eric, who passed
away, rest in peace.
We're getting high right on April
And we're watching the Sopranos
And
They had a Christmas tree in their fucking room
And I'm starting to see somebody behind the Christmas tree
I'm getting high, I'm getting paranoid, you know
And I'm thinking somebody's behind a Christmas tree
And I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
And this is recently, I just got out of the, you know, keep in mind
I just got at a psychiatric center
So I have all these different medications
right, that they gave me all these antipsychotics and stuff.
So I'm getting high.
His mom is telling me, Danny, stop, you know, you're fine, you know, it's just the drugs, whatever the case we be.
And I used to sleep over here a lot.
You know, they gave me a nice, you know, I didn't have to a place to sleep and they really treated me like family, you know.
So I was there all the time.
So we went, we go to bed.
My best friend's in jail at this time.
I'm with his twin brother, right?
And I'm so paranoid, dude.
I'm looking out the window and I'm seeing fucking ghost dancing around my car and shit like that.
I go run downstairs.
I grab a kitchen knife.
And I come back.
I'm like running around the house.
I'm bucking out.
They're all sleeping.
Okay?
I end up taking these pills.
Zyprexa?
These fucking psychiatrists back then.
they put me on so much medication that I was not supposed to be on.
And I just took a bunch of these pills.
I go into the car with the knife and I end up, wait no, I passed the car and next to my friend's house is like a pond.
I end up chasing these ghosts into like a river.
All my clothes are soaked.
I get in the car, right?
I back out.
This is 2006.
I just got rid of the Cadillac.
I'll tell you about that situation in a second too.
I just got rid of the Cadillac.
I just got an Apollo.
And I leave my friend's house.
And I'm in this, like, I'm bugging out.
I start driving up the road.
I park at a gas station and I start fueling the pills.
I fall asleep at the gas pump.
This is right in the fucking hometown of where they knew me.
where I grew up and they like always harassed me and I get a knock on the window.
The cops wake me up and I'm I'm completely out of it.
I don't know what the fuck is going on?
They're like, what are you doing?
I'm like, uh, they're like, are you waiting for somebody?
I'm like, yeah, I'm waiting for my family.
I remember.
And they're like, what is your face bleeding for?
I'm like, oh shit, I got a bloody nose and there was a jiffy loob receipt.
I grabbed them and I just wiped my face and they seen I was fucked up.
Right? And it just so happens. My mother works at the diner right on top of the hill.
And I haven't seen my mother, you know, it's been a while.
She comes down. They were going to lock me up. And, you know, working at a diner, my mother serves the police and shit like that all the time.
They were going to let me go. And I turned around and I said to them, so do I have to get another car for you motherfuckers to stop harassing me again? They lock me up.
D.Y.
Violation of probation.
And then back to, all right, so they sent me to jail for a few days.
Then they started experiencing me with all these different programs.
They programmed me to death.
For the next four years, I'm in and out programs.
I'm still hustling.
And at this time, I got more into selling less,
marijuana, heroin, cocaine, crack.
And I'm gonna, oh man, this is a terrible thing.
The first time that I've, oh, I don't even want to think of it sucks.
I got pulled over about a police one time.
I was with these two girls, Carly and Denise, all right?
I was in the backseat.
I had a bundle of heroin on me.
This is when I first just starting to sell.
heroin because I was already selling the pills and I met a Dominican kid that I used to
hang out with he put me on he's like here take this start selling this like this
right so I'm selling the heroin I get pulled over I have the dope in my underwear I have
and when they pulled me over I had a knife on my lap I had money on my on my lap and I had the
viking is on my lap they came up so quick and they were like oh he's got something I
I grabbed it, I got out of the car, I threw the pills, right?
The only thing I was worried about is that heroin,
because at that time, I know dope is bad.
I don't know what a bundle is or whatever the case may be.
They found one of the vikins.
They charged me for tampering with evidence
and the controlled substance for the vikidin.
I end up eating the heroin.
I'm fucking 16 or 17 at this time.
Damn, bro.
Thank God didn't die, right?
When I got into that jail, damn, I'm starting to like, you know,
I threw up the bags and I saw that they opened.
My friend's mom became, no, no, my father bailed me out.
It was like a $500 bail, but he didn't come pick me up.
My friend's mom that I was staying with came and picked me up.
As soon as I, it was summertime, as soon as I walked out,
down them steps, Orange County Jail.
The sun hit me. I collapsed.
And I started throwing up tanglobs.
For the next three days, I had to keep.
Actually, I had to be in front of an air conditioner.
And I had to keep two gallons of water next to me and just keep drinking and just throwing up.
So I couldn't hold anything down for three days, bro.
Ooh, it was such a really bad situation, you know.
It was scary, you know?
And that just shows you what type of person I was at 15, 16-year-old.
you know, how, you know,
it was pretty
ballsy, you know what I'm saying?
So that's when
that started going on
around that time.
I end up
make a long story short,
getting programmed out.
What that means is,
I'm in and out of programs.
They,
uh,
I tried to move out of state, right?
I did.
I moved out of state with my son's mother.
I have a kid.
I buy a house and
Pennsylvania. They told me I had permission to buy the house. After I closed it in the house,
they told me Pennsylvania didn't they accept my case. I had to move back to Middletown,
get an apartment. And I was like, you know what? And at this time, I got to watch what I say,
all right? Because I'm on probation right now, right? And I'm in the same probation department.
And it just so happens that more probation officer from back when I was 16 years old is my supervisor
from my case right now. Shout out to Ms. Anderson.
So after being programmed out, I'm like, you know what?
Fuck probation.
I'm running.
So that's exactly what I did.
I'm like, you know what?
My son is like two, three years old at this time.
And back then, probation just was, they really hold you back.
So I took my son and my family to Florida.
I left for about a month and a half.
They came, right before I left the Florida, they came to my apartment.
this piece of shit
because in the future
he really
before he retired
his name is
uh
captain he was a sheriff
um shit
we're gonna get to his name
he's a baldheaded piece of shit
once it comes to my to my head
but he came to my house
and they didn't have they had a knock warrant
didn't have a body warrant so they couldn't kick in the door
so I just laid in there waiting for them to go away
and then I got on a flight to Tampa
of Florida as soon as I could.
My baby mom met me down there.
I got to spend some time with my son and my family.
I came back, got into one episode where the police almost got me.
I ended up running from them.
And they took my son's mother hostage and another person that I was with.
And so I ended up negotiating for me to turn myself in.
I turn myself in 2009.
I get one county year in the county jail, in Orange County jail.
And that's where Russia was born.
Because of my last name.
My last name is a Russian last name, right?
And in jail, you know, naturally people call you better, you know,
the last name or whatever, you know.
So that's where Russia was born.
And that's when, yeah, wow, what an experience that was.
And because that's when I got to see what the truth.
the real jailing was about working, right?
I became a trustee right away,
a kitchen, eventually to the warehouse.
And I learned early,
every jail, if you want to run the jail,
you get to the warehouse.
All right.
So that's where I got.
I lived really well.
Fucking half pound cheeseburgers for breakfast,
10 egg omelets, like, you name it, you know?
And that's also where I got into my first fight,
in that kitchen.
That's, yep, definitely
I fucking had a six,
I hit a kid with a six inch pan
and ended up fucking cutting my own fucking head,
you know?
And that lasted,
you know, it was an eight-month bid,
but Russia was born there.
So I met,
that bid was important
because during that time,
a lot of things happened.
My son's mother,
there was a kid that was in there,
right,
neighborhood. My son's mother ends up somehow, I guess, when he was getting released,
meeting with him, right? And when I get home, she tells me what happened. And then when I came
home also, my son's mother had a habit, a heroin habit. And things got difficult. But it
made me want to leave like the street life, right? So I end up breaking up with her and I have a
plan to go to Salt Lake City, Utah. I got a job out there. But I got a job out there. And,
for furniture, selling furniture.
And a few days before,
my son's mother gets arrested
for a home invasion down in South Carolina.
And she was supposed to watch my son.
You know, she knew the plan.
She went down in with three kids from New York,
tied these Chinese people up
down to Spartanburg, you know,
kidnapping, burglary, home invasion, everything, you know.
And she was facing a long time.
And this is where the Fed stuff came in.
So during, as soon as I got out of jail, there was an federal investigation, basically.
Into you?
Not into me.
Into a group of people, right?
That my son's mother was associated with that ended up introducing me to.
But I didn't know all these people.
I knew one, like one, maybe two people out of 35, right?
And I end up going, doing that job.
everything's wonderful, right?
I'm living in Salt Lake City.
I get a fucking call about FBI
6 o'clock in the morning.
They tell me, hey, Russia.
And you know, I don't know,
I ain't heard this name in a long time
really took me about surprise.
And he's like,
agent so-and-so with the FBI, da-da-da-da-da.
You got to turn yourself into the nearest
federal or whatever.
I told him.
It's my uncle's birthday.
I'm going to Vegas for the weekend.
I'll turn myself in on Monday.
Now, this story has to be said because, you know, the media, okay?
Fuck you, media.
Whoever wrote the article for my shit completely lied and made me look like some type of fucking.
And this, you know, this is the, I'm telling the God's honest truth here, all right?
one I had no plans to turn myself in all right
they were definitely going to have to send them wolves after me
just like they told me they were and
the way I did I had a good friend of my rest and peace
that was working me on the sales name was Randy old man Randy right
I told him what happened he took me to a bus station
in Wendover Nevada he didn't want to take me to Salt Lake
he's like here let me take you over here and my goal was
to just see my son before I turn myself in.
That's all I wanted to do.
I wanted to go back to New York.
I wanted to see my child, right?
And then I'll turn myself in,
just like I did last time.
Now, let me tell you,
this, before I went to the bus station,
I've never done methamphetamies before.
Okay?
This was the one and only time.
Somebody injected me with methamphetamies.
This is after I got the news from the FBI.
I just remember sitting on a couch and being able to, like, where we are,
and the walls there, the door to peephole,
and being able to see through the peephole from sitting there like on the couch.
So then from there, that's when I started to run.
Go to the bus station, get on the bus.
I got just a fucking big 50-pound, what do you call it,
construction garbage bag of my shit.
And I started taking a bus.
bus to
back to New York
and then when I get
to Omaha, Nebraska
I saw the agent
before we were in
pulling out of you
I knew they were there.
I saw the Tahoe
I seen everything.
And at this time
I'm, believe it or not,
I'm still like
fucking tweaked, bro.
And this was already
like I think a day,
you know?
Because I,
we already went to Salt Lake
then we stopped in
I remember Colorado
but once
we got to Nebraska.
I ended up getting, they chased me.
I got away from them.
I called my brother.
And I told my brother, what was going on.
He had to come, I told him like, listen, you got to come pick me up.
He comes and picks me up with my friend, Danny, a girl, Lauren, and on the way home, we get pulled over in Illinois.
This is how I know that they, whoever wrote this fucking article said I rented, I was,
renting cars under false alias names and bullshit
to make me look like that,
I'm not a fucking scammer.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not going to be,
I don't have multiple IDs and fucking like,
you know what I'm saying?
They tried to make it look like I'm some type of crazy, you know?
But that's how it happened.
They pulled me over in Illinois,
and because I had an FBI warrant,
they didn't arrest me.
They let me go.
That's how you know.
When FBI has you under an investigation,
if you get pulled over by the regular police,
they're not going to do anything to you.
I thought I was done.
How long were you on the run for at that point?
I think about maybe five, six days, you know,
and they knew where I was coming from.
They knew where I was.
They raided my brother's house.
My older brother gave me up so easily.
You're just so lazy with a little fucking bitch, bro.
You know?
And my older brother, they found his weed, right?
They couldn't do nothing to him
because they didn't have a search warrant,
but they were trying to make him
flush. He had a few pounds there or something like that.
And yeah, they gave me up
real fucking fast, you know?
But when I got back to town,
I started getting
a lot of people upset because I was
making it really, really hot.
So,
at this point,
you know, I have PTSD
really badly since
a child, right? So at this
point I'm in fight-of-flight mode. Because I know
I'm going away for a long time. And when I got
back, my whole family was surrounded by the
FBI, they were following him everywhere. I cannot get to my son, nothing. So now when I get back,
after that shadow methamphetamine, that's it. Now I'm on the run mode. And it was just like
life doesn't matter anymore, you know? So I end up going into a friend's buddy of mine's
father's trailer. He was in prison at the time. And I was with a girlfriend and somebody,
left my brother's house and got arrested for a warrant.
And, you know, I don't know this as a fact,
but I know he's the only one that knew I was, right?
And I know because he's a bitch-ass motherfucker,
you know, he cares about his friends more than his family.
He told him where I was because they got a tip.
And, yeah, they came, kicked in the door, you know, beat the shit out of me.
And, you know, it's crazy because the night before was,
first time I actually overdosed the night before.
Night before I overdosed right in the fucking kitchen.
You know, I was in a really bad place.
I was scared to death, you know?
At that time, I would say I was 20 something,
you're 22, 23 years old.
And the way my life already had went,
I, you know, I did not want to go back to
jail, you know? So, I remember before they came in, I'm in the bathroom. I hit a door get kicked in.
The guy had a dog. It was a trailer. So, you know, at the end of the trailer is the master bedroom.
The dog was in the trailer. They were in that room with the door closed. They came into the bathroom
when I was laying down on the tub. They didn't even see me. And they were about to shoot the dog.
They were like, oh, we're going to shoot the dog. And I just surrendered myself. And,
I popped like 10 volumes, right?
And they basically fucked me up.
They were really upset, you know,
brought me to the FBI station.
And I'm so zooted at this time.
And they know it.
And they're like showing me pictures of people.
I'm like, and mind you,
and the people in the case know,
like, you know, because I got to meet.
of these people in jail because I had to be in there with them.
And most of them were wonderful people, you know.
But I wasn't supposed to be there, you know?
And they're showing these pictures.
I'm like, I don't know these fucking people.
Like, you know, they end up taking me back to Valhalla, right?
And I woke up like two, three days later.
I was fucked up.
I remember in the new jail.
And now let me tell you something.
Valhalla?
Jail?
turned up.
Yeah, isn't that, that's a federal holding center, right?
They do.
They have a federal holding center, but then they also have their county jail.
So they do.
They have in the Fed, when I was there, the pen, they had a Fed block.
And then they also had a couple of units where they have federal inmates.
But I'm talking about how the jail was ran.
Dude, this is, there was more.
And I think also when I was there was a pretty iconic time, I would say.
I was with the Elm Street gang, Sloban gang.
They were in a war at the time.
Big Puerto Rican indictment.
There was big, you know, good people there.
You have to remember, in federal prison, these are just not criminals.
These are geniuses.
You understand?
But the only thing is that I noticed that we all had in common, we all got too greedy.
You know?
When it comes down to it,
the greed is where everything gets fucked up in a way.
Greed makes you loose thought of being safe.
Like, you know, instead of saying,
hey, I'm okay taking this amount of money,
trying to take every single thing that you can get, right?
Instead of being grateful.
And then you're messing with people that, you know,
you don't even know, shit like that.
That's the type.
greed and it's not even with a drug situation.
I had a best friend of mine that was in federal prison.
My biggest, I would say,
inspiration and mentor was a doctor,
a Russian doctor named Boris Satchikov.
And he had a Medicaid fraud, right?
30 million or something like that.
And he took it to trial.
They were trying to offer him like 30, 40 years.
Got 30 months.
You know, basically that's basically beating it.
You know what I mean?
But he told me.
He was like, you know what?
I could have been fine.
I would have never got caught if I was just doing here, a few million here, a few million there.
Wait, so why did you get arrested?
Why were they hunting you?
Conspiracy to distribute cocaine, heroin, marijuana.
So what were you caught on a wire or something with your wife's or girl baby mama's associate?
So check this out.
The main dude of this case, piece of shit.
His name is Robert Givens.
His name was go to fucking doughboy, right?
He was a kid that had a phone.
People need, like he, it was just a phone,
a trap phone, right?
He ends up going to the Bronx,
coming back, getting arrested with like a lot of dope.
They turned them right there into an informant.
So what they did was,
they started tapping people.
I mean, what got my warrant to be into there,
was they called me for a gun.
Okay.
They called me for a gun.
I didn't.
It was a funny situation too because I didn't even answer it.
Like once he was like, oh, do you have, I remember vividly.
Hey, you got that, still got that 357?
And I was just like, what?
And then I hung up.
But during the course, later, you know, I did end up selling a different gun to somebody else.
And I didn't even know him.
Like, it was a situation.
were like, oh, go meet this guy over here.
It was just the person that I knew, right?
Go give it to this person over here.
Da-da-da-da-da.
So I didn't even know the person I was giving it to, you know?
And I ended up getting a two-point enhancement for that, you know?
So how much time do they end up giving you in total?
I'm going to get it to there in two seconds, all right?
Because this is really important, this federal, because I wanted to, this is United.
This is the Southern District of New York.
This is the same district as Diddy.
All right?
and I want you to try to get to understand
my case
was probably the worst case
and what I mean by the worst case
there was no evidence
the only thing they had was phone tabs
and a conspiracy to sell
kilos of all this and that
they had no drugs bro
when they did their raids didn't find anybody with drugs
barely any money
one or two guns
you understand
and what they did was
because it's such a small town
they took people
that were getting money in the town
that let's say that they couldn't get
right individually
and made this indictment
and was just like all you guys are bloods
all you guys are working out of this place
called a sneaker store and a studio
which I've never heard of and never seen them in my life
and that's how I knew I'm like you know what
when I woke up and I've read this indictment
like, sneaker store, studio,
because I was supposedly being alleged
to be working out of these places,
never heard of them in my life.
And that's when I realized, I'm like, okay,
just because I gave somebody a gun
doesn't mean that I'm in conspiracy
to be in their mafia into their organization.
You understand?
There was so many other people
that would just like me,
that would call up, just get drugs, right?
To conspire means that you have to actually
actually agree, sit down, and organize
to work together.
That wasn't this type of situation.
Most of the people that was on there
were just like, don't even know the person.
They got this phone number.
You call this number, whatever the case may be.
But I mean, I knew the one guy
who turned informant, right?
And he brought down his whole gang.
His whole fucking gang, dude.
And when I got in there,
I seen the situation.
Holy shit, man.
What a, um,
you know some people
there was one kid that didn't even sell drugs
that was on there was just a pizza delivery guy
and um
one of the head guys on the case I guess
didn't trust the guy that was
calling the phone
and gave him fake crack
he was like hey yo go meet this person
for me he didn't even sell drugs
and the guy goes and does it
and it's a fucking undercover fed they had the video
of him doing it and everything he didn't take it
because it was fake but he still got
charged and he didn't have get charged
of blood also and you know I didn't get charges of blood but this is how it worked
with my case they started throwing out offers because of this was a fucked up
case and the way that it was going on they were fighting each other inside you
know and what's really important that you should know about federal holding
centers there's agents on that block multiple you're on telling you in jumping
suits.
Okay.
I'm, um, the type of person I am, I'm a very like, um, over empathic in a way.
I'm very able to feel things.
And I'm very able to notice things.
And I'll give you an example, right?
Out of respect, don't you think that if people are talking about their case that maybe
you should walk out the room?
Like if you didn't know them, right?
I mean, if I'm sitting here with a friend of mine and we in jail and it's a 12 person pod that we used to
and we start talking about things and you know that how conspiracy works.
Like if you know something, maybe you could be brought up in it, right?
Like wouldn't you not want to hear those things?
But you would see certain people would be sitting and listening and watching and taking everything in.
So, you know, trust me, they're in there.
they're watching.
And it's crazy.
They're in jumpsuits.
They'll have probably like four or five in there.
And they'll look like the most trustful.
Like I'll say one of them.
There was this guy O.T.
His name was O.T.
You're with a pod.
They put most of us on our case in the same block.
You know, I guess the ones that were snitching or whatever,
they took them off, put them in different jails and shit like that, right?
But majority of my case, we were all on the same.
block, right? So I got to know these people.
But there was this one guy in our pod.
He's in the corner. O.T. He's been there forever.
Never seen him go to court. Never seen anything. And we were there for almost 12 months.
But you know what I did see? That motherfucker was in there. Everybody's business trying to give
advice, right? And those are the people that are going to be showing up against you on trial.
if you go to trial.
You understand?
There was also another Latin king
indictment when I was there.
And it was a kid that was offered 15 to life.
And he was getting charged with murder, capital murder.
And the only thing he was was just the weed dealer.
He went to trial.
He beat it.
The only thing that he got charged was the marijuana that he was selling.
But they were trying to give him, like they offered him.
15 years, you know?
The way that, and these are things that they know.
The prosecutors, no, they know all these things.
They just have no, they lose their soul in corruption.
Corruption is, I would say to a lawyer, if you're going into law to do the right thing, right?
Don't ever become a prosecutor.
Because that's when you're going to end up being corrupted.
And that's when you're going to turn into a bad lawyer.
You know, I have these lawyers.
Oh, I used to be a DA.
Oh, you've been corrupted.
You know what I'm saying?
Because they do some foul shit.
And so now,
there's a few things that I really want to point out with the feds
because I've never seen anybody talk about transportation with you.
And I got to tell you my experience for transportation.
So I was the first person to cop out in my case, all right?
They were offering me.
They ended up, there's B1A, B1B, B1C, B1C,
okay
they started throwing out offers
B1A
B1Bs and B1Cs
they gave all the people that were
gang members
B1Bs
and then majority of the people
that weren't gang members
I believe they offered B1Cs
they offered me
57 to 72 months
because of my
they go by the chart
and plus the enhancement
so your past criminal record
is what determines.
A B1C is zero to 20 years.
So it could be anywhere to zero to 20 years,
but you have your recommendation
of your sentencing for your guidelines.
So my sentence recommendation was around 52 to 72 months.
And when I went to court, my PSI is what I would say
had the judge have some compassion for me
because of the fact that I was homeless as a young kid,
because I did have, what do you call it,
addiction treatment facilities,
like it was proven that I had, what do you call,
addiction problems and stuff like that.
So those are the things that help,
but I think really mainly was the way I was raised
and all that stuff,
because that's been very detailed in a PSI.
So I get sentenced.
Now, I go to Brooklyn.
How much time did you end up getting?
I end up getting 36 months.
Okay, three years.
36 months.
I guess sentenced.
Oh man
Let me tell you something
bro
I go to Brooklyn
They put me on a fucking eighth floor
I don't know if you know about Brooklyn
Or I read out
Eighth floor is the zoo
They put me on like the worst floor
Ever
Now when I get into the jail
I first get in there on the block
Right
Of course I got my sally
This is gonna be a iconic
iconic
Is Sally introduction
I get on the block
Somebody knows me from Valhalla
That was there this kid red
Right Puerto Rican red kid
So I'm going in I'm going into myself
And there's a kid that runs into myself
Pulls a fucking shank on me
Right
And these shanks were made
You know the fans the big commercial fans right
In Brooklyn they had a lot of those
Like the cage
They rip the cage
And make them into bars
And then shank them up
and you get like a fucking 14-inch, you know,
with the wrap the round, you know what I'm saying?
So he pulled the shank on me.
I'm my first day, I'm like, yo, he's like,
yo, where's your paperwork?
I'm like, it's mailed here, it's coming here.
I just got here.
He's going to take a couple days to come in.
Red comes.
Red's like, yo, I vouch for him.
He's good.
Da-da-da, whatever the case may be, right?
And this is how psychology is.
Pay attention.
This kid was from Connecticut.
Right?
He's still fighting his case.
What fuck is he doing?
Brooklyn by himself without all of his indictment right eventually I'm like what's going on here
why you holding a knife like that we're scared for right that's what I'm thinking in my head
so now I'm also in Brooklyn when Sandy happened the hurricane remember that shit when the whole
Brooklyn battery tunnel everything dude we lost power for three I had to smell my celly shit for
three days the toilet's in work we were locked in the cells are crazy so this kid gets in a fight
with somebody on the block.
He left the fucking gun in the cell somewhere.
I end up finding out that he is a rat
from his case, he was an island boy.
There's a gang in New Haven, Connecticut,
called the Island Boys.
I don't know if you're familiar.
Is New Haven an island?
No.
Where's the island?
No, there's no island.
No, there's a hood on the water.
Oh, like Bridgeport area, maybe.
I know
It's on the water
And it's like one of the
New Haven is on the water
I think it's one of the
Ghetto's areas of Connecticut
But I know it was a game called Island Boy
He showed me his tattoo
Right
I have an island boy tattoo
So I've written
And then once that word
They told me
Everything made sense
You know
My paperwork came
Everything was good
I ended up getting a new
Selly Gambino guy
Right
Fucking amazing guy
one of the funniest people I've ever met.
You know?
I think he was an associate maybe.
I don't know.
But they fucking all with rampsacking my fucking sell for that shank.
And, you know, at 36 months, I don't want that shank anyway.
You know?
So I found somebody to be able to sell it to.
I was like, hey, take it.
I don't want it.
Boom.
Got rid of it.
Got rid of that liability, you know?
And so the, what do you call?
my cellie, he comes in, he's like,
hey, listen, I need the bottom bunk.
I got a bottom bunk pass.
He's got the sleep at me a machine, you know?
And I'm like, oh, don't worry, man.
I'm not going to give you a hard time.
You got the bottom bunk.
You know, it's not a problem.
I get on the top bunk.
Me and this guy end up becoming really good friends and talking and stuff.
What hilarious guy.
He was an electrician at the post in Queens over there.
That's where he did as a job, you know.
But he was a good guy.
and he told me that the spot that I was going to,
finally when I found out the spot that I was going to,
he told me, he was like,
it's the land of milk and honey kid, you know?
I'm getting so excited, all right?
Because at this time, there's a war on the block
between the Spanish and the blacks.
Also got Albanians, crazy fucking Albanians
that are like, fucking six, seven,
300 pounds, all going crazy,
screaming atmosphere.
In this, Brooklyn,
you have to wear your boots to the shower.
Let's just put it that way.
And, um, so I couldn't wait to get the fuck out of there, right?
Number one.
And so I'm all psyched up for this land in milk and honey.
Dude, as soon as I get the school kill.
All right, let's talk about the transportation because this is important.
This is wintertime.
When they transport you in the feds, you wear, um, a scrub.
It's like a hospital kind of scrub.
No underwear, no t-shirt, your butt naked.
When I got transferred, it was just around Christmas.
The layover is Canaan.
When I got off the bus in Canaan, it was negative 15 degrees.
And you're basically naked.
They made a stand outside there in like 20 minutes in a negative 15, 20,
that I will never forget that moment in my life.
Like 20, 30 of us sitting out there, you know, tremble.
Holy shit, man.
You know, I've never heard anybody talk about that
because I know people have felt that.
Whoever's experienced that,
I know they would never forget that.
Up in those mountains in PA.
And then when I get in there,
I'm supposed to be there for two weeks.
A fucking prison guard gets stabbed.
2013, they locked the fucking jail down.
So by time I get the school kill,
I made it, right?
Somebody from the 845 there, right?
We connect.
I pull out my paperwork form
We hit instantly
We're from the same neighborhood
He's from Newburgh
I'm from Middletown
He's from the indictment before me
We know some people that know each other
Great
Three days later
They call me to the fucking
What do you call it?
We're a tenant's office
Yes
You got warrants
Da-da-da-da-da
You can't be on the camp
Oh man
I was
Pest
So I get to the hole
And you know how the hole is
You got one phone call month
And the only thing you could do
Is fight with that pen
Right
So I'm in this hole
I got a certain amount of time
Now these charges
Were charges that were already
Taking care of
And I didn't even have a warrant from
One of them
There was two charges
Okay
So
The one charge was from like 2007
And it was already taken care of
I had to just write Wallkill and my lawyer get that taken care of.
The other one, when I was in Salt Lake City working,
ended up getting a fucking D-Y, bro.
And, oh, my God, that was experience in itself, you know.
I met this Mexican girl.
She's with two Mexican guys.
I'm in downtown Utah.
I'm fucking pissed drunk.
I'm driving her car.
I get pulled over.
The fucking two kids, and there was a girl in the back,
just open the door.
and just bolted out.
The girl stayed.
I end up getting a DUI, right?
And then the girl calls me a few days later
when I get out of jail,
asking me to pay for a fucking thing
to get taken out. I couldn't believe it.
I'm like, your friends fucking ran out of the car.
I wouldn't even got a DUI if that didn't happen.
You know, I guess they were illegal or something.
I don't know.
Pretty sure, you know, that's what the case happened was.
So anyway, this caught up to me
because I never went to court
because I got indicted, right?
When I was in Salt Lake City, I was supposed to go to court.
February I got indicted.
Missed my court date.
So now I had to fight that case from the hole.
I ended up managing to do this, bro.
I fucking made it happen.
I ended up, I think within three or four weeks time,
there was no way I was not going to fucking hit the land of milk and honey and I have to go to a low, you know?
So about three weeks, I know I spent Christmas in there.
I spent New Year's in there.
And they end up releasing me, bro.
And you stay on the camp the rest of your sentence?
I stay on the camp the rest of my sentence.
Wow.
And the best...
You got lucky.
Dude, did I get lucky?
Let me tell you.
Ian, if I never went to this camp,
and I wouldn't even be who I am today.
And I'm going to tell you why, because I told you earlier,
I didn't go to school, shit like that.
I didn't have a role model.
Going to this camp was like Harvard for me, bro.
I'm not even kidding you.
for free.
And I took every single advantage that I can.
I took this time that I had at that camp
to focus on my goal, which was furniture.
Furniture is my life.
That's been my life.
It's, you know, what I wanted to pursue.
So to do that and also to take any class that I can.
So instead of taking the routes that I used to go
and trying to get myself into mess
and trying to start hustling
and, you know, getting on the cell phones.
As soon as I got to the camp, you know what I did?
You know, I reached that, I was ready to 845 car.
I reached that out.
I'm also a Russian Jew.
I got right into the Jew car, right?
And I ended up becoming basically like the head of the Jewish car.
You know?
That's funny.
Yeah, and let me tell you, we have some iconic people in there, bro.
I was with the inventor of Travelocity, the creator.
Frank Kogan was with the owners of Ink Brothers, Inc. Magazine.
We had the doctors.
A couple lawyers.
The guy that founded Jiffy Loop.
He was teaching a lot of classes.
You know, some really smart, smart people.
You had senators.
There was a New York senator in there.
A Boston senator.
you know, it's really, really, really smart people.
So I stuck, and then there was the New Jersey's wife's doctor, Dr. Rand,
awesome dude, man, really smart guy.
And I stuck around these people, but I also, you know, I'm a jailer, you know.
So I had to, you know, make sure I had my self taking care of.
I had to make sure I have a hustle.
And I had to make sure that my people were taking care of, right?
So when I got to the jail, I met some really good people.
I pulled my paperwork out, so that was allowed me to get to the right people on the jail.
I got right to the warehouse, right?
And this is for anybody, God forbid, if you have to go to federal prison and you're a good guy, right?
Get to that warehouse, man, because if you get to that warehouse, you run to jail.
In school kill, I had two trucks.
I had, it was two trucks and a flat bed.
I touched everything that came into the prison first.
Food, chemicals, socks, jumpers, boots, materials, anything that's jail issued,
that came to us first.
So that's the hustle, right?
You got bananas, you got all that.
But we also had it organized, I would say.
You know, one dude that became really good friends of mine.
And his name was Smack.
We had Smack.
We had Y-O.
Yeah, one of the Boston guys was holding down.
And then there was an Italian guy.
So it was all of us that ran this warehouse.
We all had our position.
So I took care of my Jewish guys, right?
You know, everybody had their own people that they, you know,
Nobody stepped on the toes.
Everybody had respect.
You know what I'm saying?
And we did our thing, bro.
You know?
And, you know, the stories you hear about, you know,
fucking people going off the fucking mountain.
We're not going to say any names.
Well, let me tell you something.
School kill, we had it.
Jump in.
Jumping.
Oh, fuck, man.
You want to canoles.
You'll get canoles, bro.
You know?
Newport's only $20 a pack.
You were living large.
Live and large, bro.
McDonald's.
You know, my friends used to wake me up.
Shake my ankle.
Fucking bottle of Hennessy.
Still in the brown bag, bro.
Still in the fifth bottle, you know?
Amazing shit.
And, you know, I also was the type of person
because, you know, it's very segregated, right?
I'm not a segregated person.
And I'm not the type of person that follows trends in a way.
Like, you know what I mean?
So I did social, like, you know, the Indians, like the Native Americans, right?
I really, you know, spoke to a little bit of everybody.
And what a blessing it was.
I can't tell you how something so negative was able to turn into such a blessing
because I got so much knowledge.
I learned about stocks.
I learned about trading stocks, charts.
We studied investor business daily every day.
We had a class every day on it.
You know, there was a lot, man.
I had a lot of time to be able to sit in at law library.
I never read fiction books with the fake books, whatever, you know, novels.
And never again, again, have I touched that.
I got myself into financial literacy books, you know, rich that, poor dad.
You know, the Russian guy introduced me to rich that poor dad.
And then I read all his book, Cash World Crospection, everything.
So, you know, that's why I say it was like a Harvard for me.
Because if I didn't have that, I would have still came home to the same mentality, right?
And I realized, like, the whole time I was doing it the wrong way, you know?
There's, the opportunities are endless.
But, you know, I also learned something that very important.
When, you know how they say you talk, when you speak something, it comes to truth.
All right.
So I came home, I did violate.
I had one violation.
And when I was in the yard and I was.
I was talking to Dr. Satchakov, right?
And everybody does the spinning, the walks, right?
Everybody's walking.
We used to walk a lot, and I'm telling them,
we're talking about probation and parole.
And because of my experience, you know, I had a negative view.
And I came up with a scenario to him.
And I said, what if you're just one day,
you decide to go to your friends to a bar,
have a, you know, hang out.
And there's an idiot there.
And next thing you know, you get in a fight,
you're getting arrested, you're violating parole.
Right?
He says, oh, no, it never happened.
Well, when I got out, all right?
I ended up getting out in January 2014 to halfway house.
I had seven months halfway house.
And that ended up happening to me just like that.
The night before Thanksgiving, I ended up going upstate.
I ended up coming to the halfway house in the Bronx.
I stayed my whole time in there, believe it or not.
I didn't want to do home confinement.
I didn't want to go back upstate
and I got a job right away
as soon as I came home
and I ended up becoming the number one salesperson
out of the whole company
and things were going great.
I bought a BMW three months into the halfway house
I couldn't even bring it to the halfway house
and then I started getting hatred
from the people that were running the halfway house
and shit like that, you know?
So, but the hunger and everything was paying off,
you know, the choices that I made
to stay away from the negativity
and to, you know, that fire that is in you, when you're in prison, that's starving,
you can take that and turn it into such a positive thing.
It's such an advantage if you know how to use it.
There's certain people that will take it and go into a depression, get miserable.
But then if you know how to take it and use it as fuel,
What an advantage you have, man, you know?
I love that.
Yeah, it is.
It really is.
It's a blessing in that way, but you also got to realize not everybody has the opportunity to be in a camp.
Some places do have to be in that USP where, you know, every day is a struggle, you know,
and you got to have a knife on you every day.
You don't know if you're going to make it.
But the same lesson could still be learned from those facilities.
Absolutely.
You know, and it's whatever you put yourself into is you get yourself into.
And I learn about respect in prison, too.
I think anybody that goes to prison
will really learn about respect in prison.
I would say that's where I really learned about it.
And that's really also what makes you shape, you know,
as that really shaped me as well.
So what does your life look like now?
So since then, I did violate, right?
I got another year from that.
Had to go in front of the same federal judge for violation.
And because everything was well
and I had, you know, no dirty urins, everything was,
it was just literally one issue.
She actually congratulated me,
and she was like, listen, I'm going to count it, run it concurrent,
and a few months later, I ended up getting off of supervised release early.
And then after that, during that time,
my father had a heart attack, you know,
and I had plans to go back to Queens.
something told me, you know, I had to go back and work with dad because that's where everything started.
And so I went back there and just caused a lot of issues, man.
I caused because of my childhood trauma in, and still because of at this point,
I still haven't even really got to really heal.
I was able to retrain my brain.
But that's not healing in a way.
It's a part of it, but trauma works in crazy ways.
So from 2012 to 2018, I was completely sober.
I got out of jail from that violation.
I came back, worked.
I broke my foot.
and fuck man
I got prescribed to oxycodone
and because of
I think all the shit that was going on in my life at the time also
I mean financially I was doing the best I've ever done in my life
but you know what they say when
more money more problems right
and at this time is when I was really learning
about betrayal I guess
and for the people
that I thought that I would be able to trust to be able to have my back, really, you know,
kind of, it turned into kind of a thing where, you know, fucking cryptocurrency came, you know,
a lot of people in my family made money off of cryptocurrency.
And there was like a lot of envy came around.
And I ended up buying a house with this girl.
and this is where I end up getting more civil lawsuit knowledge, you know.
I buy a house with this girl and I put up all the cash.
And because I bought a house before, I couldn't take advantage of a first-time home buyer's program.
So we agreed to put just the mortgage on her name and I put the cash up.
But contingent I made a contract.
I made sure that I had a contract made just in case she didn't put my name on the deed or things,
know. So it was to protect both of us and she breached the contract right away. She called
the lawyer the day before told him to keep my name off the deed that came into a traumatic
situation that really, really a lot happened. So during that happened, I had the police
kicking my door, all right? When this started after we closed on that house, I find out
about the deed about two months later when it comes in.
I don't tell her about it. I call the lawyer. I'm like,
what the fuck is going on here? Why is my name
on out on the deed? We had many
meetings about it. I paid you $800 extra
to make this contract where number one on
the deed says they were supposed to both be
named as tenants in common. You
are very aware.
And then he came out to me
and told me that the day before
closing, he was advised to keep me off
of the deed and that
I'm going to have to pursue in
legal action.
So for six months, I'm fighting with this girl.
And because I didn't have any emotional regulation and literacy
and I didn't know how to really soothe my emotions,
I started using drugs to cope.
And during this time, my sister ends up dying from a fucking fentanyl overdose dude
from a fake Roxy in Texas, you know.
So there was a lot of traumatic shit going on
where I basically was losing my mind
and all of her family was going through a lot.
And so I end up serving this girl with a lawsuit.
Three days after I served with a lawsuit,
she went and served a false order protection
to get me removed from the property.
Okay.
New York State sheriffs show up to my house
and the guy's name is Larry Coton, right?
Baldheaded, retired piece of shit.
Larry Cotone.
from the Orange County Sheriff's Office
they come to my home
they read me order of protection
I don't fight the order of protection
I tell them
give me 10 minutes
I have my dog
I have my kids stuff
because at this time I have custody of my kids and my son
and I just need to grab my stuff but you're not coming in my home
and this is on camera
right
and they tried to
strong on me in my house.
And if you could picture, right,
when I'm in jail, I am the type of person.
I am a, if what's the words they say,
I'd be bucking, right?
I be, I, when I go to jail, like, let's say,
I'll give you an example.
When I was in federal prison, I'm a Jew, right?
On a holiday, somebody stole my fucking,
prison meal, I took the microwave and I slammed the microwave on the ground.
Nobody was eating, okay?
And it ended up being one of my co-defendants playing a fucking joke on me.
I end up getting 90 days in the box, going to the old jail, all right?
I end up getting another 90 days because the sergeant comes through.
There's a problem with my toilet and she doesn't want to get the plumber to come and fix my
toilet, as soon as the doors popped open for my shower, I threw the, I threw the fucking
mattress on the fucking tear, everything.
I'm one of those, I'd be fucking bugging.
I'll flood the fucking unit, all of that.
I really don't care.
When I'm in there, I get in a different type of mode, you know?
And, um...
So the cops show up at your house?
Yeah, they, wait, which, this is, uh, when they're giving you the order of protection.
They show up in my house.
They strong army.
They start fighting me, two of them.
And they, it happened so quick.
The only thing I remember is we're on the ground and I start yelling, you're violated my rights.
I got this on the ring camera.
I get up.
I go to run upstairs.
They shoot me with the fucking taser.
But then they start running outside.
I pulled the fucking dart out of my arm.
I felt myself like dropping.
Like I've never got shot with a taser before
But that's exactly what it feels like
It makes you lose complete
Like you just drop like lose energy
So I was able to pull the taser out
So now I go on top of the roof
And I start this fucking big thing
The tanks are coming
And this is from the same jail that I grew up in
So everybody knows me
The tanks that they're coming
Or all the correctional officers
And everybody that are the turtles
Right
So I'm telling them now I'm having a conversation with them
I'm on top of the roof I climb on a window I'm like you motherfuckers
You you you violated my rights you came in my house
You know you're not allowed to do that you know
So I have a standoff with them for about three hours
This is where the baldheaded piece of shit comes into play
Okay my mother like I said was the diner
He worked at the diner she knew this guy's father who was a captain in the sheriff's department
And this is who I was having to beef with at the time
My mother's in California and I'm calling
her. I'm both, I'm like fucking barricaded in my house. And, um, there's a hundred cop cars in the
tanks. And so they're trying to negotiate with me to come out. And so now they got Mr. Coton
calling me. He's like, hey, and I speak to my mother. He's like, listen, I talk to him, just,
you know, try to trust to me. You know, they're not going to hurt you. And honestly, the most thing
that I was fearing was that they were going to kill me if I came outside. And, um, so he tells me,
he says, come outside. Don't worry. I'm going to meet you.
there, everything's going to be okay.
Da-da-da-da-da.
And at this time, all my girlfriend's stuff is out of the house.
All my stuff is there.
I have over $35,000 in cash and the safe upstairs.
I go to the door, I open the door, fucking 20 red beams shining on me.
He's no, he's not there.
I close the door.
I call him, I'm like, yo, motherfucker, you're lying to me, bro?
Like, seriously, I'm like, you know, he comes and meets me this time.
And now you have to keep, I have PTSD.
D, I just got like Taze basically fighting this.
This is a very traumatic like situation for me, you know?
So when he gets me in custody, he takes my keys.
He puts me in the back of the cop car.
And he comes up to me and he says,
your mother's worried sick.
Give me your phone.
Unlock it.
I need to call her.
Right?
He goes into my fucking phone.
The door's still open.
I'm sitting in the back of the sheriff's car,
but the door still open.
and none of these people had body camps.
None of them.
And he starts yelling to a couple of his officers.
How do I get into the ring camera app?
Oh, they wanted to delete the footage?
They did delete the footage.
This is what you're on probation for now?
No.
This case got dropped.
Oh, this case got dropped.
I better believe it, because one of the videos,
they forgot to erase the video of them.
When I was on top of the roof,
I grabbed one of the cameras and I brought it inside.
So I got a video of them searching my house without a warrant.
when I told them not to.
Wow.
So that ended up getting the case dismissed,
but I ended up having to pay all this money for a lawyer, right?
The same lawyer that I fucking was supposed to protect me from my girlfriend,
from getting me removed from the property, gets another $3,500, right?
I get traumatized.
I lose $35,000 in.
I got robbed, bro.
Those sheriffs, I don't know who did it to this day.
It was either the ex- fucking bitch or it was one of the sheriffs.
because my 35K got lost.
It never ends, huh?
No.
They gave my keys to the girl,
which had my keys to everything on there,
my safe, everything.
And then when I was able to come back to the property,
everything was folded nicely in my pickup truck.
All my shit, they moved in the house, fucking motherfuckers, bro.
Wow.
You know, so that gets dropped.
Now, during this time, you know,
the main thing that I think that I want to,
try to bring awareness.
And also, there's a case going on right now that's making everybody's talking about it.
It's the kid down in Ohio.
Quentin Nixon.
I don't know if you heard of it.
No.
Okay.
There's a kid in Ohio.
He's representing himself.
Okay.
He was in a situation where he had to basically kill somebody got killed.
They were all in psychosis.
episodes and two people had guns and basically tried to either rob him or whatever happened,
but he ended up getting one of the guns in a struggle fight and shooting the people,
and they ended up locking him up for the murder.
So the same tactics that they used in this kid's trial, they used in my trial.
That's where I'm going to talk about coming up.
So during this time, after all this, right, I end up getting into a really bad mental state.
for about a year and a half
after my sister passed away
and during this time
the people that was supposed to
look forward to be able to go to
and stuff like that
they were all devastated as well
so it ended up turning into a very abusive
family relationship
and so what I was doing at the time
I was
getting high
right, feton all, cocaine,
and basically staying up for days
and, you know, getting into these psychosis episodes.
And it sucks, man, you know,
because this is, I don't know what it is that's going on,
but the cocaine that is going around right now
is different than back in the, I don't know if it's the cut or whatever.
I mean, there's still good pure cocaine out there.
It's pure, whatever.
whatever, but something is causing people to have these psychosis episodes because it's becoming
very common.
And because I'm in treatment.
I'm in, I'm like very engaged in treatment, mental health, substance abuse, five
days a week, like almost, you know.
So, and I'm seeing how popular it is.
And it's very dangerous.
And with my case, okay, it was a situation where I was in a psychosis episode for a
few days and Ian I'm not the type of person to call the police you know but at this time I was in a home
with two people that I that I love very much but endured a lot of unnecessary pain from so I
think that with complex trauma and cocaine for somebody in my type of situation, it would make
me feel like that my family's trying to kill me.
And that's exactly what happened.
I was in a very, very bad psychosis episode.
And I end up calling the fucking cops, bro, right?
I tell them, I'm a fear of my life.
I want a cop to come here and I want to leave this home.
I took myself there with an Uber.
And when I get there, it's me, my mother, my stepfather,
and there were some conversations that were had that there was some things that were said earlier in the day.
And then when I brought it up to my mother and asked her why they said it, why this was said.
she didn't give me an answer
and she just started crying.
So what it did was
it turned, it
made me think that
that was going to be my last night
living.
So I call the police
I no longer want to be there anymore
right? And this is in the
same living room
where my stepfather
you know, had me
removed over a child support check.
He starts saying,
hang up the phone.
I don't want the cops at this house.
I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?
You're telling me that?
You're calling the fucking police on me my whole fucking life.
And you don't want the cops here?
They don't come.
Okay?
I have to call the police back.
Excuse me.
I have to call the police back and I tell them
I am not hanging this phone up
until there is an officer here
and I'm in fear of my life.
Cop gets there.
One officer walks into the house.
I try to explain about the day, earlier in the day.
And then the early in the day basically consisted of full-blown psychotic symptoms,
which was I was hearing voices.
I was actually, it's crazy, but I was hearing my girlfriend being raped in my head.
And I was thinking that it was real.
And I was also thinking, and I was also seeing people.
So earlier in the day, I was in certain.
places in public chasing invisible people with weapons and they were able to confirm this because
there was cameras in the area, right, of the places that this was happening.
So when a cop comes in, I tell him I'm in fear of my life.
I tried to explain to him the things that I was going through.
but what I found out was
before he came inside
my stepfather
manipulated him
he got to him
because he knew I was calling him
so during this time
somehow he snuck outside with the dog
to walk the dog
caught the cop outside
right gave his own narrative
to try to make me just look crazy
because my family hides
a lot of the shit
that shouldn't have been hidden
right
and what that did was that made the police officer
not take my claim seriously
and
it came to a situation
where the cop said that he was going to call backup
you know things they wear right here
it's like I don't have any service on here
and I have to go outside to call backup
and I asked him
to just get me out of here
and I told him
I will go to rehab tomorrow.
That's my plan.
I don't want to sleep here.
And right before this,
my stepfather gave me a handful of Xanax to take,
to try to get me to calm down,
which was the worst thing I think that he could have did.
So he says, okay, let me go call back up.
I'm going outside.
And he's, if you could imagine,
the black, I mean a glass,
you know, the front door, right?
And then they got the glass door in front of it.
That's kind of like that swings open to get into the door.
You know, you go into a front house.
You got the glass door that's like the first door and then the main door.
So just the glass door was there.
The main door was open because he came into the house.
So when he, I told him three times when he was leaving, please don't leave the house.
Please don't leave.
He leaves.
I hear a glass break.
I pick up a fucking knife
I hold it up to my mother
My stepfather comes to grab me
And somehow
My mother and my stepfather
Both ended up getting stabbed
And from there
I went into a complete mental
Only thing I could remember
Was that I dropped on the floor
Was screaming and yelling
I thought my girlfriend
was in the attic.
This whole time I'm screaming for her to come downstairs.
My mother and my stepfather, a stab, laying in the garage,
screaming, Danny, Chris is not here, Chris is not here.
And I'm yelling, I don't know what's real.
I don't know what's fake.
You know, I'm going, it's such a fucking, it's such a, only way to explain it is
your brain gets hijacked.
Imagine that.
Imagine your brain gets hijacked.
You no longer have control of thoughts in your head, and you no longer can tell what's real or what's fake.
That's a fucking scary situation.
Did they survive?
Thank God.
Yeah.
Thank God, man.
And what happened?
You ended up getting arrested?
I did.
Yeah.
Now, this is a really important part, too.
Because this is where the justice system comes into.
play, right?
These police officers wrote this police report up to protect themselves.
They wrote it in such a way where on the pick, on, does it say, there's questions that
says, does it look like he was having any mental issues?
Does it look like he was on drugs?
They put no, no, right?
They put that I called and asked for an ambulance when,
And the police call doesn't say that, right?
So they basically manipulated the police report.
Then they manipulated my parents, my mom.
That was the police's fault.
I don't know what the procedure,
if there is a procedure for mental health
or if anybody that's in fear for their life.
But I know that if I was a public servant,
I mean, I'm not, but even just in general,
if I know that there's somebody scared for their life and they're telling me not and leave them, I'm not going to fucking leave them.
Like, you know.
And it, um, fuck, man.
It turned into a fucking, you know, you always got to look, you know, I have to look at it this way.
This happened on January, um, I mean, December 24th, 2012.
Two years ago.
Christmas.
This was on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day or something like that.
Right? You know, my mother, I'm not going to let that.
I have to let that be my resurrection.
I was in such a bad place.
I didn't know what my main core, you know, there's a core issue always to when it comes to addiction, any type of use, any type of addiction.
and from my learning what I've learned from me it's been trauma bro
and not learning healthy ways to cope with the trauma or learn the skills to learn the
skills to be able to get yourself to a point where you don't let a trigger get you
into flight or flight because with complex trauma or PTSD
you have within seconds
from the time that you get triggered
to be able to tell yourself in your mind
I got this, you're okay,
everything's right, before you fucking snap.
Because that's, you know, that's what happens.
PTSD, you snap, you lose control.
That's what is.
You lose control completely of your emotions, right?
And nothing good comes from that.
Do you feel like you're in a better place today?
Oh, my God.
I'm emotionally stable.
I'm emotionally like literate also.
So now I'm able to tell the difference of what's going on.
You know, and the main thing,
I always have to look at myself first.
Accountability is such an important thing in life, right?
If you can't take accountability for anything,
you're not going to be able to heal for anything.
And if you're in a relationship with somebody that can't take a gallantability and it's affecting you,
you got to remove yourself.
It's your fault if you continue to deal with something like that.
You know, you got to pull yourself, remove yourself from it.
But yeah, definitely 100%.
I would say that I'm in a well, very, really great place.
It's the first time in my life that I was able to say, hey, you know what?
Money's not important right now.
you know um i need to work on myself uh you know i i want to be able to be there for the people
that i love and i want to be able to have a relationship where i'm not blaming somebody for the way
that i'm reacting how's your relationship with your mom now i chose not to have one um so the court
just got finished very very recently um i'm still on probation but
within two years, there's, there was order protections, of course, and stuff like that.
But until, because of the emotional literacy I do have,
I know better than to be able to engage with my mother again and have a relationship
because I know she hasn't healed.
And she doesn't know the skills or she doesn't even really realize what's going on.
And I tried to instruct her to try to go get the,
you know, get the knowledge, you know,
and there's a lot of family issues that are going on.
And when parents don't know how to deal with these issues,
they'll put a band-aid on it and just let the thing get bigger.
And something I want to be involved with, you know.
But it's really important because when I got locked up for this,
I got these charges, right?
Assault first two times,
assault, criminal possession of a weapon,
two times, I'm facing 50 years.
And I knew right away
that
I knew right away that if I wanted to take it to trial,
I would have been able to take it to trial
and I would have been able to beat it.
But I also have to look at it
that this was a situation with somebody that I love.
And instead of taking it to trial,
taking accountability,
instead of putting everybody through the pain and everything like that.
I would rather do that, learn from it, grow from it, heal from it, right?
But if this was a justice, justice system, you know, the judge, I feel, should have been like,
oh my God, what the hell happened here, officer?
This kid called twice.
why does it say he wasn't on drugs?
He was in a psychosis episode
and he even admitted to you at the scene
that he was taking drugs for a few days.
Like that's not how things are supposed to go.
And in a system where there is justice,
I would imagine
because of the way that the officer,
professional officer that's trained handled the situation
and two people got stabbed,
that they should be held accountable for it,
especially because of the fact that I called.
See, that's the main thing.
If I didn't call the cops,
then it's a completely different story.
But I called.
I did the only thing that somebody is able to do
any situation like that.
And then because of the way it went down,
where there was actions that could have been taken
to be avoid that,
which the officer decided against from believing the words I was telling him.
And then, of course, they used my parents to, you know, go along with them.
And instead of my mother and my stepfather being able to see what really happened
and to be able to hold them accountable because I wasn't able to contact them.
And during this time, I had an open case.
All right.
This is another thing that needs to be brought up before we end this.
I got charged in Clearwater, Florida, sober with a DUI.
You hear me in?
I got three DUIs in my lifetime.
Two of them, I was fucked up.
I was in psychosis, one of them.
The other one, I was with those Mexicans, right?
This third one, I was sick with strep throat.
I just went to the doctor earlier that day.
I went to get my Z-pack because I'm allergic to penicillin.
I go home.
I take a nap.
My mother tells me to go get honey.
I get pulled over by the fucking Clearwater Police Department.
They pulled me out of the car.
They had me do it.
And I'm telling them, I got the paperwork in the car showing that I'm positive for strepdoll.
I was there earlier today.
They take me out of the thing to do a sobriety test.
They accused me of drinking alcohol or being on some type of stimulant with the red eye thing.
I think they were saying a stimulant or alcohol or antis suppressant, whatever.
I offered the blow.
They didn't let me blow.
After the sobriety test, they locked me up.
And I tried to fight it for two.
years, I demanded trial.
They brought up false charges
against me. False felony
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Against me.
End up fleeing guilty to the fucking...
And that never ends with you, Danny.
Dude, I'm telling you, it's crazy.
Well, what matters is that you made it through it.
You know, you're here now.
There was a positive outcome.
And you just got to keep pushing forward.
Right.
You know, and the main thing is, is hopefully we see a change, bro.
You know, I really, really do.
you know, the 13th Amendment.
13th Amendment
is an amendment
that is
really hurting a lot of people.
And it's an amendment
that's taught to us in school,
right?
In a complete opposite way
than what it really is.
The 13th Amendment they tell us in school
was to abolish slavery.
It was to make slavery illegal.
But it's the complete opposite.
It was actually the amendment
to make slavery legal
just under the cases
where somebody commits a crime, right?
What are all these undocumented immigrants
doing as soon as they come through the border?
They're committing a crime.
America's not the land of the free.
There's a pipe, a price to pay.
See, all these illegal immigrants,
they don't know what's happening to them.
They don't know that most of these people
are going to be turning into slaves.
Our jails are at all-time low.
Somebody's got to fill them.
Vanguard, geo-gris.
right? These are the people that are, their beds are low.
It doesn't make sense to bring these traumatized people
that have been living in poverty to this country to get DUIs, right?
All these things.
Got to see what's really going on.
There's a lot that needs to be changed.
You know, what's really going on, man?
But if that 13th Amendment, just imagine if there was a prison,
if there was a justice system where inmates were able to make minimum wage.
Can you imagine that?
Imagine if people were actually able to
make a minimum wage
and be able to feed the families
or if somebody went to jail for child support
for those 90 days they were there
to be able to pay their child support, you know?
The reason why I wanted to come and talk about this
is because I want to, I want so bad
to see a change.
Terribly, you know?
And I feel terrible for the kids that are going through it right now.
You know, I really do.
Well, thank you, Danny, for coming here today to share your incredible story.
No doubt, yeah. I appreciate you bring me in.
Of course, man. Keep your head up. Keep pushing forward.
No doubt.
You know, you got a lot of life in you.
So put it to good use.
Yeah, you know what I've noticed to is that God, right?
There's very special people that go to prison.
God puts people in these situations.
Not everybody is built to be able to go through a life that I went through.
And for me to still have compassion, right?
For me to still not be bitter and not to be able to really change, right?
You still be me and be the good, hard person than I am.
God creates people and puts them in certain circumstances.
and there is modern day prophets all over the world in prisons.
And they just, they should be recognized, you know?
Like Khalif Browder, poor kid.
I was able to make a change from his death.
Suffered greatly.
But yeah, keep doing your thing, Ian, man.
You know?
I really love what you did.
You came out and, you know, you're a great inspiration for people that are in their
right now to show them that they have somewhere to go, you know?
I'm in the furniture industry.
You know, so that's what I do.
You go to Furniture Mattressplus.com, right?
Right after this, I'm going to the furniture market.
And that's what I love to do.
And, you know, I'm going to keep doing it.
Awesome, man.
Well, we'll have that link to your furniture shop in the bio.
No doubt, man.
Thanks, bro.
