Locked In with Ian Bick - Inside the Diddy Case: Ex-Homeland Security Agent Shares Exclusive Insights Into High Profile Cases | Myron Gaines

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

Most people know Myron Gaines as the host of the Fresh and Fit Podcast, but before that, he was a Homeland Security agent. In this episode, Myron shares his rare insider perspective on the Diddy investigation, discussing the details and providing an exclusive look at what goes on behind the scenes. We dive deep into other tactics law enforcement uses, cover the Tekashi 69 case, and more. Tune in to hear Myron's unique insights into high-profile operations and how his past experience in Homeland Security shaped his view on crime, investigations, and justice. #DiddyCase #MyronGaines #HomelandSecurity #Tekashi69 #LawEnforcementTactics #FreshAndFitPodcast #CrimeInvestigation #InsiderStory Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Connect with Myron Gaines: IG: https://www.instagram.com/myrongainesx/ X: https://x.com/unplugfitX?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor YT: https://www.youtube.com/@FreshFitMiami YT: https://www.youtube.com/@FedReacts Presented by Tyson 2.0 & Wooooo Energy: https://tyson20.com/ https://woooooenergy.com/ Buy Merch: https://lockedinbrand.com Use code lockedin at checkout to get 20% off your order Timestamps: 00:00:00 Introduction to Fresh & Fit Podcast 00:06:19 Understanding the Role of HSI Agents 00:12:24 Leveraging Agency Strengths in Law Enforcement 00:19:29 Challenges with Federal Informants 00:25:00 The Role of Informants and Cooperators 00:26:00 00:31:15 Police Jurisdictions and Crime Handling in Different States 00:37:46 Differences Between State and Federal Search Warrants 00:44:05 Federal vs State Cases - financial crimes 00:50:53 Federal vs. State Arrest Procedures 00:57:01 Coordinating Sting Operations 01:03:10 Challenges of Working in the Secret Service 01:09:48 Role of HSI in Counterterrorism 01:16:08 Transitioning from a Secure Job to Entrepreneurship 01:22:50 Smuggling and Cooperation Dynamics 01:29:00 Border Checkpoint Incident and Legal Consequences 01:41:16 Street Surveillance: The Importance of Plain Clothes Powered by: Just Media House : https://www.justmediahouse.com/ Creative direction, design, assets, support by FWRD: https://www.fwrd.co Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Myron, welcome to Lockton, man. Thank you for having me on, brother. Dude, you're like iconic in the podcast industry. Yeah, notorious. Yeah, definitely. And a host of Fresh and Fit. Yes. I have a big older demographic, too.

So if you want to, you know, explain what that is and plug that in. Yeah, sure. So the FreshFit podcast, it's the number one male self-improvement podcast. We focus on helping guys get, you know, money, be attractive, get in shape. Because it kind of started as a dating podcast. And then we realized very quickly that guys have, inadequacies that extend way beyond just being awkward with women. You know, they're fat, they're awkward, they're shy, they're timid.

They don't have their money on point. And then I realized, like, in the globalized sexual marketplace that we have now, where women are more selective than never before, thanks to Instagram, thanks to dating apps, etc. You can't be an average guy and get women anymore. You simply can't, you know, the days of making $30K per year and, you know, white picket fence and a dutiful wife that will sit by your side, it's not going to happen. You have to be exceptional to get a halfway decent girl nowadays.

So the Fresh and Fit podcast kind of fills that void and kind of lets guys know about how women have changed too because guys think that, you know, girls are sugar and spice and everything nice. And it's like, you know, I'm kind of here to tell you the reality of how modern women move now in what I call a deregulated sexual marketplace, which I'm happy to explain that if you want me to. But things have changed significantly from, you know, 1924 versus 2024 thanks to feminism and a bunch of other cultural shifts. Yeah, I had seen your clips like ever since I got on TikTok around COVID. and then I see you on Johnny's show and I'm like, why is he on Johnny's show? And I had no idea you used to be a federal agent. Yeah, no, yeah.

So I have many hats. Like, yeah, people are shocked by that too whenever I talk about like my background. So I was especially the only special age with Homeland Security Investigations from 2013 to 2020. I left in late to 2020 basically because like the podcast started to take off

because I had been running a fitness business while I was an agent. And then I was like, well, if I'm going to scale up, I need to get on YouTube. And then obviously, why do guys get in shape? They want to get girls. And then that led to me giving guys help with the ladies. And then that led to a podcast. And, you know, then they're like, you know, you have to obviously say controversial things

to tell guys the truth about what it takes to be attractive with women. You know, you can't be a sim, can't be a sucker. You know, you have to put yourself first a lot of times. And these things are not things that are federal agency should be saying with a clearance, right? So they kind of told me they brought me in. I'll never forget my special agent in charge, the deputy special agent in charge. and an assistant special agent in charge, they brought me in and they're like, hey, dude, like, what are you doing?

You can't be talking like this, you know? And at the time I had one of the biggest national security cases in the country. So, you're like, dude, you're going to have to testify, blah, blah, blah, it can't be like this. Like, dude, just drop it. It's not that serious. And that kind of happens with government employees because a lot of them have never been entrepreneurs.

They've never done anything outside of the government. So to them, they're like, make money on the internet. What are you talking about? YouTube. This is BS, dude, just drop it. It's not that serious. But they didn't see the vision. And so, you know, I ended up resigning.

I didn't want to leave. You know, I was, you know, I loved the job. It was a fun job. I'm not one of these people that's like, oh, I hated it. I'm disgruntled employee. I actually loved it. You know, I did a lot of big cases, all types of investigations, whether it's, you know, Mexican drug cartels, human trafficking, human smuggling, arms trafficking,

counterintelligence, national security, terrorism. I've done pretty much every type of case you could think of because HSI has a very wide programmatic area. And that kind of filled the void after nine. 11 because FBI, well, I'll go into this real fast. So after 9-11, one that up happening was all the law enforcement and intelligence agencies realized that there was a huge gap in information and people weren't sharing information we're supposed to, et cetera. So the Homeland Security Act was enacted and immigration customs enforcement was created in 2003 or ICE. And underneath ICE, there's two components. There's Homeland Security investigation.

So if you look at it, so you got DHS, then underneath that you got Immigration Customs enforcement. ICE has two components, two main components. Homeland Security Investigations, HSI, formerly known as the Office of Investigations, and then enforcement and removal operations. So HSI, these are the 1811 Special Agents, Criminal Investigators, that do the cases, and then that, you know, with a wide range of customs authority, immigration authority, and then you got enforcement removal operations who does the deportations. And ICE was basically the INS and Customs Service being merged into one,

or immigration naturalization service. immigration naturalization service, INS, combined with the U.S. Customs Service. So they combined to create ICE and that's where it was. So I worked for the HSI side and I did criminal investigations there. But one ended up happening after 9-11 was the FBI really started focus on counterterrorism. Counterterrorism, counter espionage, national security matters. And then HSI took on a lot of that organized crime that the FBI historically used to do. You know, gang cases, Ricos, the mafia, etc.

HSI took a lot of those cases on. You know, if you look at a lot of these big RICO's recently, whether it's Takashi 69, Casanova, Casanova was FBI, but Takashi 69, the D-D case, R. Kelly, these organized crime cases, HSI actually did these cases. So H-Sai, New York Field Office. I was out of Miami.

I started my career in Laredo, Texas, but then I went to Miami. But I'm very well aware of, like, how the New York field office works in the Southern District of New York, et cetera. But, yeah, so H-Sy kind of came in and took over that organized crime site. So I did a lot of those types.

the cases when I was an agent. Started on the border. Then I came to Miami. And then I left in, I was in Miami for about two to three years. And then I ended up resigning to do the podcasting full time. Yeah, I think Homeland Security is becoming more relevant now with like social media and seeing the images of people like Diddy getting rated and you see HSI on that. When I was growing up, we always just thought FBI or IRS.

Even IRS is kind of new for the criminal division. Seeing it actually play out. Yeah. And that's one thing, you know, HSI if you guys are watching, like the branding, like, the branding. Like that's one thing that they always struggled with, right? Was the branding, getting out there. They would always be, you know, mistaken for the FBI, et cetera,

which, you know, obviously would piss them off because it's like, dude, you know, we used to make jokes. He's called FBI famous but incompetent or we used to call them Phoebes. This insider shit, you know, right? Anyone that's an agent knows what I'm talking about. So, yeah, like they've always had a branding issue because they had ice. And ICE, right? Immigration is kind of like a dirty word and, you know, depending on who's in office or whatever.

So they kind of didn't want to be under the, they're under the ice umbrella, like they kind of change the name to Homeland Security investigations to kind of encompass all the different crimes because they do have a lot of it. Actually, agents high agents actually have more authority than FBI agents. If you look at the types of crimes that they enforce because customs of immigration is super wide encompassing. And then you add in like they do child exploitation. They do money laundering crimes. They do financial crimes. They do everything coming in or out of the country affecting interstate commerce is basically what they do. And then you add in all the immigration crimes that come in, whether it's human smuggling, document benefit fraud, you know,

all these different types of crimes HSI can do. It's just that they've had a branding issue for so goddamn long. They made the name change in like 2010, 2011 under Director Morton. But then they've just kind of like people are finally starting to figure out who these guys are, which is good, you know, more brand recognition, I guess. Because the FBI takes a lot of credit sometimes for cases that HSI actually did. Yeah. How did you get into law enforcement?

So I went to Northeastern University. in Boston and I was intern with the agency. I never got I eODed July 72010 and you know basically if you don't fuck up as an intern you do a good job you know they convert you from you know I was like 18

I forget what the job series is for an intern but I was a job intern and then they converted me to an 1811 and then I went to the academy but they swore me in 2010 when I originally went in and I was 20 years old and got sworn in as an intern

and then I became an agent in 2013 and then I went to the academy shortly thereafter. Did you know you were getting into law enforcement growing up? You know, I always wanted to do it. You know, obviously the nine, it's like any American, right? The 9-11 attacks definitely, you know, motivated me to do it,

especially growing up in a Muslim family. I remember like my mom getting harassed and stuff like that from wearing the hijab. So I was like, you know, we want to go after these motherfuckers that, you know, did it. But then you find out, you know, we're really happy with 9-11,

which holds a whole other conversation. But yeah, at the time, like that's what originally made me want to do it. And then also, like, I've always been anti-drug. I've always been, like, anti-crime. I've never stolen from anyone in my life. I've always had, like, a very big hate towards criminals in general, people that scam or take from people.

Like, it's always pissed me off. So I've always had this kind of, like, righteous mindset of, like, I'm not going to do wrong by people, right? Like, I'm not going to steal or scam or do any bullshit to somebody, right? Especially, like, when you got victims, like, it's fucked up. So I've always had that mindset, you know, be the good guy, right? so to speak. Does that make it harder to interview people, like when you do have people that were, you know, arrested or went to prison?

No, actually, if anything, like, I'm desensitized to it now. Like, I can sit across, you know, because I've, so interesting story, right? So, and it kind of reminds me how desensitized I am to it. Vitale, right? I go out with him when he does these child predator busts, right? And he'll bring these predators in that we're trying to have sex with, like, a 12 or 13-year-old. And I'll notice, like, Vitaly or, like, one of the other guests will get really annoyed and angry, like, or sneak or whatever. And they'll be like, oh, fuck this guy, blah, blah. And in my head, I'm

like, bro, relax. You got to chill out. You can't, like, take your frustration out on these people. If you want to get the information now, you got to almost, you got to be nice to them. You got to, you know, this whole, you got to, because people think it's like the movies. Like, you turn, they're in a dark fucking room. You shine a spotlight on them. You better tell me what I need to hear, motherfucker. It doesn't work that way. You got to be nice to them. You got to be personal. You have to, you know, be able to carry a conversation. You got to talk about things that actually don't have to do with the crime. And you almost have to kind of like, I don't want to say, But like you you kind of have to like get on the same level of them and find some common ground and then build from there

The best interviewers and the guys that are able to You know kind of Shmoos the criminal so to speak so you have to be calm right yelling at them never fucking works So you know it's always interesting because they're like pissed off of these pedophiles But I'm like well they don't have training experience and like dealing with criminals and you have to kind of Speak their language and be kind to them and it works a lot further So so yeah like I've talked for me it's easy to talk to anybody, really, because I've talked to, like, the worst to worst, whether it's a child

pedophile, to a terrorist, to a multi, you know, serial killer murderer. I've talked to all kinds of people. So I'm able to, like, kind of just adjust to who I'm talking to and then have that conversation based on who that individual is. Why do you think you never created like a crime podcast? I do have one. I do have one. It's called Fed reacts. It's not as big as my other stuff because I don't like advertise it like that or promote it. But I do like breakdowns on like, whether it's like a federal case or former older criminal cases, serial killers, whatever, I kind of like break it down from the perspective of a federal agent. And I kind of give another insight into things. Or if like a case breaks out, I'll read the criminal complaints or the indictments and I explains the audience,

you know, how the federal system works versus like the state system or, you know, what an indictment is versus a criminal complaint, how the FBI works versus, you know, maybe HSI or DEA, etc. Because I've worked with all these agencies like very intimately, no homo. And so I know how they work, right? I've written DEA 6th as I've written FBI 302s, you know, because when you do big cases, it's almost inevitable that you have to work with other agencies, especially if you're going to do, I've done a couple of, it's called OSEDF cases, organized crime, drug enforcement task force cases. So you have to kind of work with these agencies, you know, understand what agencies are good

at certain things, which agencies are bad, other things, and you kind of have to leverage your other strengths. So like to give you an example, right? The DEA is fantastic at exploiting phones. Great. Like literally, they have contact. over at the main service providers, they could do a subpoena, get it back within hours

of, you know, toll records, subscriber info, right? That's what they do because drug investigations are heavily dependent upon phones. So that is one thing that they're good at doing. We're getting Title III up to listen into phones. They can do it within a week, have a T3 ready, up and ready, versus like the FBI HSI takes us, we're much

more cumbersome, we're not designed to just go after drugs. Like, they're a single mission agency, so they're really good at what they do. Phones is what they do. ATF, obviously firearms, right? You want to go ahead get a gun trace back. You're going to give it to the ATF agent. He's going to see, anytime I did a case and we see his guns, I wouldn't take it. I'd give it to the ATF agent. He could go ahead do an e-trace. We figure out who bought that gun or where it came from within 24 hours, right?

They're able to sign up informants within 24 hours. You could be doing a drug buy that same day with an informant, right? Which for a lot of other agencies, HSI, FBI were more bureaucratic, right? A lot of paperwork. It's annoying. So they can go ahead and get around that. DEA is also a quick assigning of informants too. FBI has a lot of funding. They got a huge of money. Not as much to their organized crime squads, but they got great resources. They got surveillance teams. They got resources they can put into the case to help you out. You need a pole camera, et cetera. They got their own texts. Great. HSI, we can do almost everything because they have so many different programmatic errors or so many different crimes that we investigate.

Also, immigration. I can't tell you how many times where we'd want to turn a guy, make him an informant. Fuck you. I'm not talking. Oh, well, you're going to go back to El Salvador, you know, one, oh shit, when he doesn't want to go back to the Salvador because he was born in the United States. He's living in the United States this whole time. His whole family's there. He's going to cooperate because he doesn't want to go back over there. So you're able to go ahead and get them to turn because of immigration leverage. No other agency is able to do that.

So every agency has strengths and weaknesses that if you're smart, you're able to leverage and do really big cases. But unfortunately, you know, there's a lot of infighting in these agencies. There's a lot of issues like historically, right, DEA has always. fought with HSI, especially on the border, because they both have Title 21 authority investigating drugs. So, you know, drugs come across the border. Technically, both of us have venue because the drugs are international. So that comes from, that we deal with that.

But at the same time, DEA is a lead agency for drugs, Title 21. So there's a lot of fights on the border with this shit. Or Border Patrol will catch a load, right? If they catch, if Border Patrol catches a load, they're calling DEA because historically they've had that, it's called the Memorandum of Understanding and MOU with them historically because they all used to be under the Department of Justice. So they call DEA if they catch weed or they catch drugs on the border. But if it's a HSI case, then they call HSI.

If the person that they stopped is a subject of an HSI investigation, but if customs and border protection catches drugs, they're calling HSI because they used to work together, legacy under U.S. Customs Service. So there's so many little intricacies and differences between agencies, et cetera, which I'm happy to expand on anything if you have questions. But that's kind of what it's like when you're dealing with the different agencies and the importance of working together,

but a lot of the times they don't. Luckily for me, like, work with these different agencies, I was able to figure out, okay, you're good at this, you're good at that, et cetera. I'd bring them all in because I didn't have an ego. I was a young guy. Hey, let's just get this shit done. You know what I mean?

When you make a deal with someone that's cooperating, is it hard to leave like your personal feelings aside from it? Like an immigrant, for example, that committed maybe horrific acts, but you're letting him stay here because he's getting you to a bigger fish. Good question. So with informants, like it was always,

and I've had so many of them so I could definitely talk about this from experience. When it comes to informants, right, you have different types. So I'll break this down. You have source of information, right? That can be just a regular person that wants to come forward, maybe a good Samaritan, maybe someone that used to be a criminal, et cetera. SOI, source of information.

Then you have a corporate defendant where they might either already have charges against them or they have charges that you can levy against them, corporate and defendant. Then you got confidential informant. This is someone that's signed up, right? They have a CI number. They got a, like, when you write about them in reports, you're writing their CI number, you're never using their name, et cetera. They're documented.

They're getting paid. They're getting some type of benefit typically. Immigration benefits, maybe, et cetera. So whenever you have informants, you have to weigh their benefit versus the cost. No matter what anyone tells you, informants are a pain in ass. Because nine out of ten times the best informants are criminals. So therefore, that means they're in the game. They're doing a bunch of bullshit.

They might get arrested. and it comes down to how important is the case, who can they get you, and how much risk are you willing to weigh? Because, you know, they could do some bullshit, right? And a lot of agents, actually, the best agents have informants. But most federal agents don't have informants because it's a headache and it's a lot of paperwork. And I'll be honest to you. Most government employees in general are fucking lazy.

I was one of the only crazy people that would have multiple signed up informants. I'd have SOIs and have corporate defenses, et cetera. And the importance of that is you need them telling you different things because they'll be privy to different, especially when you're doing like organized crime or conspiracy cases, they'll be privy to different parts of the conspiracy. And also it helps you corroborate if your informant's telling you the truth. If he tells you X, Y, Z does X, Y, Z. And then the next guy tells you, yeah, X, Y, Z does X, Y, Z, it adds credibility to that informant.

So then that information is better. I could take that to a judge. That's my probable cause. I get a warrant for a phone or a house, whatever it may be. And more than one source is always better to, you know, beef up your probable cause. A lot of agents don't like that because it's a lot of work. But when it comes to assessing, it really comes down to risk versus reward of this guy's a fucking high head. He's crazy.

But is it worth it to do the case? A lot of the times, especially when you're dealing with gang members or whatever, sometimes they can be violent criminals. And that just kind of comes into the play. Obviously, you got ground rules for them. Hey, you're ain't going to fucking shoot nobody. You're ain't going to hurt nobody. You're not going to be involved in anything. You're just going to go to meetings and be a fly in the wall.

But that's difficult to do when they're higher ranking or whatever may be. That's why it's very important. when you're getting informants, you got to get someone in the middle. And what I mean by that is, I give you a perfect example. The Takashi 69 case, right? And I like to use this case as an example

because it's famous, a lot of people know. So the top guy that they were going after was a dude, I think of I'm not mistaken, was Mel Murder, right? The head of the Bloods. Nighterre gangst of the Bloods. But 6-9 was in a unique situation because he wasn't necessarily a gang member, so to speak, but he was a financier.

and as a financier you're dealing with the money that means that you're talking to guys at the top level and guys on the lower level so you're in a perfect position to give information on the guys below you and above you and that's why he ended up cooperating with HSI and getting such a great deal

because he was able to get everybody right and that's typically who you want to turn you want to turn to people that are dealing with the money and guys that are in the middle of the organization or closer to the top because they can give you the guys above them and give you the guys below them but you know sometimes that doesn't always

play out that way. Luckily, you want to get someone that's not violent that deals with the money a lot of times because they're more privy to the criminal activity on all ends. But sometimes you might have to recruit the fucking enforcer whose job is to what people's asses. I remember this when I had a Lan King case. You know, one of my informers was an enforcer. I'd to fucking constantly tell them you can't beat people up, bro. You can't do this shit. You know what I'm saying? But yo, you know, he's violation. You did X, Y, Z? No, bro. No, you can't do it. Oh, fuck, man. And then on the side, they might tell one of their home needs to go beat somebody up. you know, I can't do it right now. They'll make up some excuse for why they can't do something.

But, you know, it's very, yeah, it's a pain in the ass. And it's something, it's a unique burden and pain in the ass that most people, you know, will never experience, let alone people in law enforcement. So only got, only the best investigators typically maintain informants because of that very reason. Ready or not, summer is coming. And Wayfair's Memorial Day clearance is on now. Right now through May 25th, get up to 70%. sent off everything home at Wayfair.

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Wayfair, every style, every home. Anyone that is on the job will tell you that. So a guy like Takashi, what do you think about someone like him that gets such a sweet deal and then goes and gets a, arrested again? And will, like, the feds protect him from that, too, or is he done and over with? So with him, he's what I call a cooperating defendant. So he probably didn't get a CI number. They obviously burned him because he testified in court, et cetera. So he didn't get a CI number. He was basically just working off charges and working off. He probably got a proffer letter,

et cetera, which a proffer letter is where you're able to, you know, provide information without being charged. You know, you get sitting there with your attorney. AUSA is across from you, the federal prosecutor, the agent, the case agent, or a case agent. And you just give information without getting prosecuted for it, right? They call it king for a day, proffer letter 5K, safety valve and drug cases, all the same shit, basically. You could basically speak without being prosecuted for it. And I know, I know you know what that is.

No, no, I like the audience to know. Yeah, for the audience. Ian knows a lot about this stuff, guys. By the way, we had a discussion beforehand. I'm just like explaining for you all. I did a reverse proffer. Yeah, you did it. Where you go and you sit down with the AUSA and you hear what they have to say.

I went to trial, yeah. Really? Yep. So my lawyer arranged a reverse proffer. We went to the United States Attorney's Office, and in the room was, you know, IRS, FBI, everyone there surrounded you at the table. Each of the case agents for each agency.

Yep. And then the interns that were interning the summer at the prosecution's office. Oh, shit. And it was me and my attorney and my dad, and they lay out the case. Okay. This is about, this was three months before they went to the grand jury.

Oh, okay. Basically, they gave you discovery beforehand. A little bit, yeah. But at that point, the postal inspectors had just passed it off to the feds. But, like, I tell people all the time, the feds don't arrest you until they have, like, a bulletproof case. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. People don't realize that. Yeah, dude, I could tell you myself.

I mean, I didn't go to my AUSA. We didn't even step room in the, we didn't even step foot in the grand jury room to indict until they were ready to go to trial. Yeah. Like, and just for the audience to understand, to get indicted, right, just probable cause, guys. That's nothing. That's like a fucking cop arresting you on the side for a DUI, right? smelling some weed in your car. That's probable cause.

The threshold is not that high. But at the federal level, they treat it like it's beyond a reasonable doubt. But by the time I'm going to grand jury to indict the guy, I'm stepping in there to testify, the AUSA, the information I've given them, it's beyond a reasonable doubt. They're ready to go to trial the next day.

That's how federal prosecutors work, which is in stark contrast to the state. The state, they don't go, fuck. They take every case that comes in. They might lose half. They might win half. You know, because they're getting everything from a disorderly conduct.

BSDUI all the way up until capital murder, right? So they're taking everything. So a lot of times the ADA is assistant district attorneys don't have the capacity, the bandwidth, or the resources to take on every single case. But the feds, they have the privilege of being, ah,

that's not good enough for us. We don't want it. They can decline cases. So they only take the biggest, sexiest cases, and they're not going to come at you and indict until the, unless most AUSAs, on average,

carry about 15 cases in the, the country average versus ADA might have 100, 200, 300, right? And most AUSA's offices are 95% plus prosecution rate victory, right, where they're getting a guilty plea of some kind or they're plea bargaining or they're going to trial and winning, right? So they don't lose and they pride themselves on not losing. And then on top of that, you got federal investigators who have way more time and resources to do a long-term investigation.

They're using Title III wiretap intercepts. They take it using pen registers, trap and traces, phone pings, informants, sources, cooperating, defendants. They have state resources because a lot of times they have task force officers that are assigned to the federal agencies that have both federal authority and state authority because they're deputized, right? The TFO, also known as TFOs. So the feds have a lot of resources. Then the other thing, they got time. They got fucking time. They can sit there and watch you for two, three, four, five, ten years and then come back and indict you, right?

That's how they got ditty. people say, oh, well, a lot of these crimes happen in 2008. How'd they happen? How'd they do it? Well, they use RICO racketeering. Now they're able to establish it as enterprise, and they're like, they're alleging, hey, well, these crimes have been continuing to happen all this time. That's how they get around the statute of limitations, right?

And some states have RICO statutes as well, but the federal ones are, you know, fucking bulletproof. Right. Giuliani used them against the mafia in the 80s, and then ever since it's just been bad for organized crime. So to go back, oh, yeah, so you said that you had the reverse proffer, but We were talking about, oh, yeah, informants. And then, I'm trying to recall back here where we at. We're at, you had asked me a question about, we were on the proffer topic, informants.

I talked about the risk versus reward. I don't know. I was so fascinated about the ditty stuff. Yeah, the ditty. Oh, you asked me about Takashi 6-9, right? Yes, Takashi, yes. Okay. And the question, if I'm not mistaken, was his position with protection and then.

And if the feds will protect him in his, new case now. Okay. Do you got another case? Yeah, and I think it's a foreign country. He got arrested or there's a warrant out for his arrest. Okay. So if they will want to save him because of his cooperation. Sure, sure. Okay. Oh yeah, because Dominican Republic, he slapsed somebody. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken. Something like that. Yeah. So here's the thing, Takashi, I'm almost 99% sure he was not a documented informant. Right. And that was actually the H-Signed New York office that did it. So I know for a fact they didn't sign him up more than likely. And the reason why is because he testified in court. You don't want to have an informant that's testifying in court. So he was more than likely because

they indicted him too. He was a cooperative and defendant. So as a corporate and defendant, he's not going to get the same level of protection as like a paid informant. Um, and then also, you know, when you're a pain informant you do dumb shit, like, nine out of ten times, they're just going to deactivate you. When I used to have informants that would like get arrested a shit, deactivate. You're a pain and ass. I'm just going to deactivate you. Show up to the fucking jail. Hey, send his paperwork. You're going to, you're being deactivated, et cetera. Boom. Done. Um, um. Um. Um. But so yeah, number one, they're not going to protect them. And then you talked about the court.

His thing was a corporate defendant. And there was one of the thing I was going to tell you. Oh, his situation with him, because you had said how he had gotten arrested or indicted. Are we referring to his Dominican Republic case? I was referring to the NU case he just got. Okay, okay. And how he like blew it. Like he got the sweet deal and then he goes and blows it.

Yeah, yeah, he gets in trouble in the DR. Yeah. And then honestly, he also kind of blew it because what happened was a lot of people, though, know this. Like he, um, so he got arrested if I'm not mistaken, like November 18th, like 2018, right? Sounds like. And they had brought him in for questioning like a day or two before saying they wanted to offer him protection, but then they ended up arresting him. A big reason why they kind of like did that shotgun arrest on him was because he was planning to go to like Mohican son. He was going to come out here to Connecticut.

it. And he was going to go gamble. But at the time, and the reason why they had went over to him is because they were doing wiretops on the top guy Melmurder. That's where that infamous phone call with Jim Jones came in and said, oh yeah, we're going to superviolet him. Well, the rule is if you're on title three intercepts listening to the phone real time and someone is, life of strand, you have a duty to notify an individual. So they went and told them, hey, look, your life's on the line. They obviously didn't tell them how they knew or, you know, who was threatening him. Your life's on the line, etc. We can offer you protection, blah. He's like, no, fuck that shit. I'm not going to go with the feds.

Like, this is bad for my career. I'm not going to fuck with y'all. Obviously, this was before they brought him in and they arrested him and told him that, you know, Shadi and all that were fucking his baby mama and then he decided to cooperate. But at the time, that's like death for you as a rapper to your career. Like, no, I'm not going to do that shit. So he's like, fuck that. I'm not going to go. And then they figure out that he was planning to go to the casinos. Well, that would be a nightmare to

follow him to Connecticut. right? Because you have HSI in New York running the case but he's coming into Connecticut. Well, now you've got to coordinate with the Connecticut HSI offices, New Haven and Hartford, to watch him. And I think Hartford covers that area. That's their area of

responsibility to AOR. So now you've got to coordinate with the tribal police too because they're the ones that run that area. You're familiar with Eastern Connecticut, right? So that would be a nightmare where you have to do surveillance on this guy, notify all these different agencies. You don't want to do that because you already got a sensitive case going on and where you're investigating a

celebrity rapper and a fucking dangerous criminal organization out of New York City, right? And you're on wiretaps as well. So that's a pan and ass because you guys got, you need an agent in the wire room 24-7 monitoring it. And then you got to get surveillance units. So it's a pain on the ass to do it. So, and you got to watch him the whole time. And then on top of that, you're watching him, these people said they're going to violate him. Imagine a shootout happens at the casino.

And you knew that it could potentially happen. It's a nightmare. So they're like, fuck that. We're just going to arrest this guy because that's a huge liability. You're going into another AOR. You got to watch him. and you're going on tribal ground, a shootout can happen. Someone gets shot or killed.

They're going to come after you and be like, what the fuck? Did you know? Did you know? Yeah, we were on the wiretops. We knew. That's a fucking nightmare. They do do that, though. Like, I saw it in the Brian Coburger case.

The feds were trailing them all the way across America. Yeah, yeah. But in that case, though, the crime had been committed. And they weren't on wiretaps knowing that there was imminent danger where someone could potentially die. So if they have pre, you know, if they have knowledge that something can happen beforehand on a wiretap, they have a duty to like stop it, you know what I mean? So or avoid it.

But in that case, with Koeberger, like, that's more historical. You know, he committed to the crime. They're following him, et cetera. They're, you know, they're getting a search warrant on his house. So that's a bit different. But like, um... Was that common for feds to pick that up? No.

And so normally with a crime like that, murder, nine out of ten times falls under state jurisdiction. Unless like it's committed in the, in the commissioners. of a federal crime. So let's say me and you rob a bank and my dumb ass shoots somebody and kills them. Well, now we can get hit with the murder because it was during the commission of a bank robbery, which is historically almost always a federal crime because it's an FDIC insured. FBI takes lead on that. Or me and you are a part of the mafia and we're over here killing motherfuckers. Right. Murder is considered a crime under racketeering. So that's when the feds come in. Or like you kidnap someone,

take them in or stay, then kill them after the fact. So there needs to be some type of typically for feds to take a murder case, there needs to be some kind of nexus to a federal crime, right? You kill a federal agent like, Hmez Zapata, rest of peace to him. They killed him in Mexico. He was a former,

he was an HSI agent that got killed in Mexico in like 2012. So he was actually out of my home office, out of Laredo. The Zetas killed him, right? That was a federal charge because they killed a federal agent and they used the machine gun,

if I'm not mistaken, one of the guns traced back to Operation Fast and Furious, where the ATF let a bunch of guns walk into Mexico. Big fucking L. One of the biggest, ATF almost got this band, but that's a whole other story.

But yeah, so typically that's how murder investigations fall under the jurisdiction of the feds or a crime on the high seas, where someone's murdered on a boat. Okay. Then yeah. But the state, nine out of ten times will take it.

But the feds can come in and assist. So in a Korberger case, like they definitely came in and assisted because now you got, now the guy's going interstate, you know, the state of, because the crime occurred in Idaho,

if I'm not mistaken. And he drove all the way to Pennsylvania. So, you know, the feds will come in and help with the surveillance, et cetera. But at the end of the day, the lead agency is going to be, in this case, was it the Idaho State Police? Moscow was the lead, Moscow Police. Moscow police? Really? I think so.

Yeah, I think they started because he was being held in Moscow. Okay. And then they just switched it. He just got a, that he won the change of venue. Okay. Oh, so they're going to move it somewhere else? Somewhere else in Idaho. But I don't think it was.

Probably give them more fair trial. Yeah, like Connecticut, if a murder happens, it would be like the state major crime squad or something. Yeah. But I think Moscow had that. Yeah, because here's the thing. Like, here in Connecticut, it's funny. Like, we don't really have sheriff's deputies like that here. I was talking to someone about that earlier.

It's not a thing here. It's like, we just got state police and then the feds and then the local town police. Well, like, you go to other places, they got sheriff's office, you know, sheriff's office, et cetera. So if I'm not mistaken, I thought it was the, because I think the local police had it. and then they transferred it to the Idaho State police or Yeah, because that little town I don't know if they have the capacity

to deal with a murder like that Yeah. So, but that happens often. At the state level, you know, it really comes on to the ADA, like in Texas, for example, because I spent quite a bit of time there. You got the local police,

then you got the sheriff's offices, then you got like, you know, state police DPS special agents, then you got the Texas Rangers. So if it's like a big murder case, a lot of press or anything like that, Texas Rangers will come in and take it to.

typically. So I wouldn't be surprised if like one of their big state agencies doesn't come in and take it. Like the school shooting that just happened in Georgia, GBI took that one right away. You know, the 14 year old out there, yeah. So, yeah, the state where typically the state like has mirrors of the federal system, but, you know, a whole other world. Now these huge cases like a ditty case, for example, how do they originate? Because it's not something where like the state's just tipping you guys off to pursue that into a a bigger investigation. I feel like that kind of starts internally or what are you guys looking for?

Yeah. So we won't know until like if there's a trial or, you know, did he probably has discovery now. I can only give my estimate, like my, what's the word? Estimation, right? I guess that's a terrible word to use. But like my professional opinion. My professional opinion.

What's the word when you, when you. Inference or there's the other one. My speculation. Sorry. Okay, that's fair. Yeah. This is why I can speculate. I think the criminal case.

probably kicked off right or around the time Cassie pursued her civil litigation against them, right? I wouldn't be surprised if they read her complaint or she didn't go to the police already and said, look, he's been beating me, he's been doing all this weird shit, I'm going to file my civil case. And then I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't either talk to them then or they approached her out to the fact, hey, look, there's some remnants of potential trafficking here. Can you tell us more? and then someone like a Cassie, which I'm willing to best,

he's probably a key witness in this criminal investigation. Because, you know, for the audience that's watching, can you mind, Diddy has a bunch of civil cases going on, you know, for sexual issues, and he has obviously the criminal case that's being run by Homeland Security Investigations

and the Southern District of New York. That's where they indict him out of. So Cassie probably gave the feds a lot of the information in the beginning that gave them the probable cause to search his homes. Because in my head, they did two different search warrants

one in Miami and then they did one in LA I know what kind of headache that's going to be because to get a federal search warrant is hard enough but to get one on someone's house you need real-time information from someone that's that frequents

the house as to what you because okay so search warrant goes like this you need to write up an affidavit that tells you that gives you the probable cause to go in there and then you need to know what you're looking for, what crime it violates,

and then you need to show like the structure. There's attachment A, B, and C, right? So you need real-time information of like what stuff is going to be there. So the only way you're going to get that is you need someone that had been at the house recently. Typically within two to three weeks is what we call keeping the PC fresh for federal. Every jurisdiction is different, but that's typically, like I would say, the safe way to go for most magistrate judges because the magistrate judge is the one that's going to sign the federal search warrant.

So Cassie probably put the feds on and then she might have introduced them to someone that was going to Diddy's house that could tell them real time, yeah, he has sex videos here, camera system here, blah, blah, blah, and they were able to write federal search warrants. And then not only did they write federal search warrants, they got it for two different jurisdictions. So that means that they had to, because a judge can only give you a warrant for the jurisdiction that they're in. They can't. So in other words, H-Sign New York, right? The case agent is out in New York City. but you got a location in Miami, Florida, then you got another location in Florida.

A judge in the Southern District of Newark cannot give you a warrant for a house in Miami, which is going to fall into the Southern District of Florida. So that agent, either A, had to fly down to Miami with an affidavit in hand or tell someone from the Miami Field Office, hey, here's the affidavit, can you swear to it for me down with this judge? But either way, they had to coordinate with two other AUSA's offices to get the warrants pushed through to the judge,

in these different jurisdiction. That's a lot of man work. Then you had to coordinate with these other offices to simultaneously hit both of those locations at the same time. So the fact that they were able

to pull that off and get federal search warrants for each one tells me that they got informants all over the place, witnesses all over the place. And not only informants and witnesses, people that are close to ditty

at the time the searches were done because that information to get into a house because the house is considered like the top of the echelon when it comes to the Fourth Amendment and privacy in your papers and effects

according to the Fourth Amendment. So to search someone's home, you need a lot of probable cause at the federal level. And then you go after someone like Diddy, the U.S.A's office is going to make sure every affidavit is, tees, cross, eyes dotted, it is solid because he's going to come with a legal team

to, the number one thing that legal teams are going to do is go after suppression hearings, right? Oh, this affidavit wasn't good. We're going to suppress all the evidence that you got out of this house. So they're going to make sure every single affidavit is rock solid. Right?

And then obviously the judge is going to make sure it's rock solid because of who he is. So the fact that they're able to do these coordinated search warrants, they got federal search warrants tells me that people were very close to him that gave him that probable cause. And I estimate it was Cassie that originally probably helped get the case started. And then she probably pointed them to people that were close to Diddy because she was married to him. I don't know if she was married to him. But they were very close for years, you know. I remember she came out with that song like me and you in the early fucking 2000s.

And they've been together since then. I mean, that's really interesting. So basically the feds don't execute a search warrant without knowing they're going to find something. Yes, yes. And when I saw him got rated, I knew he was already done back then from my experience with the fed. Yes, yes, dude, because I've ran hundreds of search warrants, man. Literally hundreds. Writing paper for a house is not easy.

And you can bring any investigator in here and they'll fucking tell you most of the time they go state. I'll explain what I mean by that. So there's obviously the federal system and the state system. You can push warrants through the state or the federal system. To get a state search warrant is way fucking easier than getting a federal search warrant. So a lot of the times when, especially when I used to work with the EA or you said do drug investigations, dude, most of the search warrants we would do for houses, we would go through the state because it would be way faster. A lot of the times these state narcotics investigators had ADA on speed dial. They had a judge on speed dial.

they go to the fucking judge's house at night. Can you search it? Can you sign this? Boom. Done. Et cetera. You get in the house. You're legally there.

You find drugs. It hits the federal threshold. Now you can take it federal. Obviously, the defense attorney a lot of times is going to challenge it. Well, you went under a state search warrant and we're going to suppress the affidavit, blah, blah, blah. But a lot of time it stands, right? Especially if, like, you got a competent ADA and it's a good search warrant, et cetera. It's just the reason why the go state is because it's just faster, way more efficient than the federal system for getting search warrants.

So when I saw that. They had federal search warrants? I was like, yeah, that's a fucking rap. Because you need a lot of probable cause again in someone's fucking house, dude, at the federal level. And then you have to detail, not just does your affidavit have to detail who you are, your investigation,

you have to detail how you know that there's going to be evidence at that house. And then you need to specify what you're looking for in the house. You've got to outline everything. Yeah, we want CDs, computers, blah, blah, et cetera, because we know that it's going to be this. An informant told us that we were going to find, you know,

in case, a lot of pornography probably. We're going to find baby oil and we're going to find videos or we're going to find sex dungeons, all this stuff, blah, blah, blah, which they ended up, they did the searches on the houses. You're great at protecting your data, but lots of places could still expose you to identity theft. I thought it

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I feel like they might have been telling him you're going to get bail or he was just so confident in that. Yeah, yeah. So I talked about this with DJ academics in detail. I'm actually surprised that he didn't get bond. So his defense team, and I got to give them credit, they did a fantastic job of creating a bond package. We're talking about putting up a home. He was telling the AUSAs everywhere he was going.

He's like, hey, I'm going to be traveling here, when he's traveling here. And he lives in Miami. I think he has the L.A. house for sale. But he knew he was going to get indicted soon. So he actually went to New York knowing he was going to get arrested. So his defense team was like super cordial and open with the U.S. Attorney's Office telling him where he was traveling,

et cetera, because they knew that this indictment was coming down. I don't think that AUSA's office was like playing ball like that. They didn't give a fuck. They're like, yeah, we're going to still, you know, be aggressive on this guy. But I thought that they were going to, you know, the way I, because from what I was told, what I had heard was that the U.S. attorney's office isn't going to fight to keep them behind bars. They're going to let them kind of, you know,

be out on bond, fight the case from, from, you know, maybe on an ankle monitor, house arrest, whatever may be. And a lot of the times the two main things when it comes to bond hearings, guys, and the federal system is danger to community and flight risk. So for flight risk, you can't really articulate that because he told them where he was going to be. He surrendered his passport. He was very upfront about everything. Hell, he even made himself available to New York, extremely cooperative. You can't say he's a flight risk. Then the danger community, which I think.

that's probably what the argument, the government argued more because they did find an AR-15 in one of his houses with the serial number scratched off. That's another federal crime right there. And, you know, like just the violence, like how we beat up Cassie on camera, that looks bad optically, even though it happened back in like 2018, 2019. You know, and then the nature of the crime, they can articulate, oh, well, he's, he's, he's trying, witness tampering, witness intimidation, etc because I think there was some conversation about did he's associates of contact to some of the people that wanted to testify against

some in witnesses so that's what they argued and that was able to keep him in but I was surprised because I did generally think he has a good chance of getting bond I did think he was going to have a very good chance but I think them finding the AR 15 at one of his houses during a search warrant and then the reports

of him potentially doing witness tampering that fucked him up and then you look at a case like Sam Bank Binfred where they gave him so many chances and that bond package was probably that was a crazy bond package with like all the restrictions and everything. Yep. And he just kept blowing it and blowing it and blowing it. Yep.

But now he's locked up. He's actually locked up. What did he? Yeah. They're, they're probably moved him by now. They might have moved them by now. But he was taking,

I don't know if they'd be held together because he was taking pictures in general pop. Really? So they just, okay, because I know they were roommates for a bit. Do you think that was actually true? No,

yeah, yeah, it was true. Oh, because he has picks with regular gen pop guys. Yeah, I think they moved them now. Wait,

Friedman? Friedman? Oh, yeah, yeah. But I know they put them together for a night or two, something like that. But I do know because one of my buddies was BOP, so he still has someone that works over there at Brooklyn. And because they said that he was on like suicide watch or whatever. That wasn't true.

They just had him in a room where they were watching him. And like 24 hours surveillance. And he was by himself because obviously who he is and stuff like that. And you know, after what happened with Epstein. Yeah, they don't want that. They don't want that again. That's going to be, that would be terrible, especially since the Southern District of New York

pushed for him to be held. Well, and they closed MCC too after all of that. I think it's still closed. I don't know if they reopened it yet. Yeah, I mean, that dead Joe sucks in Brooklyn. Yes. Well, that's Manhattan correctional. That's done.

I was in Brooklyn. Yeah. Where I think he, wait, hold on. He's in Brooklyn. He's in Brooklyn now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the counterpart to that was MCC. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

I think he might spend the first night MCC and then they moved them to Brooklyn. But I know now he's in Brooklyn. Yeah, I was reading an article that they had closed it because of corruption and they're like redoing it, I think like a year ago or something. MCC or MDC? MCC. Okay.

Yeah, MDC sucks. I was there several times in transit, man. Literally the worst. And I was at Wyatt and Rhode Island when I got my bond revoked. Wow, man. Because Connecticut, like we were talking about earlier with sheriffs, doesn't have county jails. Yeah. So you get indicted in Massachusetts, Connecticut, or in Rhode Island, you're going to Wyatt,

which is a private facility like an MDC, Brooklyn or the Chicago or any of these places. Yeah, Massachusetts and Connecticut don't have. Does Rhode Island have a sheriff? No, they don't have them either, right? Yeah, they're all going to Wyatt, which is a private facility that auctions out and they're making a killing. Of course. So now state cases, how do you guys pick and choose what become federal when a state's prosecutor? Great question.

So when it comes to drugs, we'll start with drugs. Drugs typically deals with amounts. So when I, this is a probably good example to use, but I'll say it anyway. When I was in Laredo, Texas, right? AUSAs weren't taking anything. under like for weed it had to be like 200 100 kilos or more

so 220 pounds or more if it was weed federal if they're for them to even for me I wouldn't even get out my fucking bed unless it was 220 pounds or more of weed and they call me right like I was gonna go stay give it to the fucking troopers or you know count S or S or PD with cocaine

I think it needs to be half a kilo or more for the feds to take it um heroin same thing phenol was At the time when I was on a job, it was like anything because it was like a nationwide push to crack against fentanyl. And then, but drugs in general is always thresholds. And then every AUSA's office is different. Like some have higher thresholds.

Some have lower thresholds. Most, you know, some will take a steroid case if it's like involved with like, you know, it's egregious amounts or we're talking about, you know, maybe dirty cops involved. Like I remember there was a big case out of Connecticut a couple years back. I actually was involved in it where there was a police. officer out of Newtown Connecticut? Oh, I remember this case. Yes. Yeah. Like 10 years ago. 15 minutes away. Okay, yeah. Out of Newtown, Connecticut. Right after

the Sandy Hook shooting. Yes, right after. It was like a whole like um, steroid ring of dirty cops, etc. They were doing it. FBI and Hs I actually did it out of here. And Postel, I know you hate those guys, but Postel did it too. But they did that case and uh, you know, that was a steroid case that they would take, right? Because obviously you got dirty police officers involved. They're going to take that.

A lot of the times they won't take stare at that. That will go state lower threshold. Like the feds will take lower threshold drug cases. If there's like violence involved, gangs involved, guns involved, then they'll take it. But if it's just like distribution network or whatever and it's like they're dealing with weed or little amounts of cocaine or crack the blame, bro, push that to the state. Money, same financial cases. Same thing. They typically want every AO saves the office is different.

Some might be 100K, 200K,000, etc. The fraud. unless again it's like egregious it's a public official then they'll go ahead and do the wire fraud like the governor for new york he's a governor so they're gonna excuse me the mayor eric um adams eric adams they'll take that wire fraud all day because of who he is right even if it's a smaller amount that they would normally never take they'll take it because of who it is so they'll make exceptions if the person is in a position of public trust or if they're famous because the feds love cloud right they want to get that big DOJ press release um

And then what else? I'm trying to think other crimes. There's other crimes, though, that are federal only, right? So you want to talk about, like, immigration crimes, et cetera. State can't take those. They don't have title aid authority. So the feds are going to take that. So they're going to, they might have thresholds for that, right? So, like, I remember when we were doing human smuggling in Laredo, Texas, it was six

and more illegal aliens they would take for prosecution. If it was less than that, the smuggler had less than six, they wouldn't prosecute them. So the guy would walk, unfortunately. They just didn't have the ability to prosecute. every single smuggler. But there's other jurisdictions where it's two or more aliens and they'll charge them with 8 U.S.C. 324 human smuggling, right? Not to be confused with human trafficking.

Two completely different crimes that often get conflated. So, yeah, it just depends on the crime, the jurisdiction, et cetera. But most cases that don't reach threshold, they'll push it to the state. But then there are some crimes that are exclusively federal that they just won't take because it doesn't hit a certain amount depending on work. workload, AUSAs, volume of cases, et cetera. Why do you think there's more corrupt state law enforcement than there is federal? Like we always hear about state cops, correctional officers, never hear about feds except

from maybe like the BOP. Yeah. The reason why for feds is because I can tell you myself, so I went through a very strict background check. You know, every five years, most special agents have a top secret clearance. So with a top secret clearance, you're getting a background check every five years. and that really keeps you honest because they do financial checks. They do background checks with your criminal history.

They do your spouse, et cetera. You're getting a security clearance. So it's pretty extensive. You know, you're doing S of 86 everywhere. He lived in the past 10 years, drug tests, et cetera. So the feds do way more background checks. Then if you've got a top secret SCI, I think it might be every three years. So they just do more background checks.

The background checks are more stringent. And just your, a lot of times you're held to, like just a higher standard in general. So that's why you don't see corruption at the federal level. Of course, there's corrupt federal people as well, of course. But the reason why it's like an anomaly when a federal agent gets arrested is because the background checks are just way stricter. Do you think it also has to do with also the proximity of them dealing with a criminal?

Like I had the Homeland Security agent that we connected about where you commented on and he was internal affairs. He was talking about how the Homeland Security agents working, the prisons get easily corruptible. Yeah, so it depends, right? So you have, so you're probably talking about enforcement removal operations, ICE, the deportation guys I explained before. So ERO deportation officers, like, they're dealing in the jails, right? And they have their own whole immigration system that they deal with. Like, they don't have a top secret clearance.

So they're not going through nearly the same level of background check as a special agent is. Gotcha. So, and then also, the other reason, too, is because, like, there's, like, we, there's a lot of oversight, too. So like and on top of that like federal agents don't have that much authority as much as people think they have all this power because they're feds They actually don't a little secret that people don't know Is federal agents can't make probable cause arrests They really can't it's very hard to do it. It's very uncommon So when I was on the border right and I'll explain what I mean by this

When I was on the border customs calls me a hey we got a guy at the bridge here We caught him with three kilos of coke all right cool I show up talk to him blah blah He confesses all right cool I got to I got an iron case, right? I'm still got to call a USA and get prosecution accepted. I'm not taking that fucking guy to the jail until I get concurrence from an AUSA.

The United States attorney's offices dictate who gets arrested and who doesn't. It's not the federal agents as much as people think. You do the investigation, et cetera, but the AUSA is making the final call. That guy's going to fucking jail or not. And then if they say yes, then you fire your criminal complaint,

and he gets into the federal system. You contrast that with the state system where trooper catches on the side of the road. road. He smells weed. All right. It catches you with a roach. Arrest you. Put you in, fucking jail. Depending on what state you're in if it's not decriminalized, of course. But I'm just using an example.

Puts you in jail. Rights of report. Gives it the DA. DA can choose if they want to, you know, sorry about that. Yeah, you're good. Let me put this on silent. The DA chooses if they want to go ahead and, you know, prosecute it later or take it to trial or whatever. But they can throw it out because they don't give a shit. They don't have to worry about stats like the federal system does. So the AUSA is that same pickiness with taking on cases.

They're picky with also when you call them. So most feds don't make probable cause arrests like I just described where you're getting something kind of handed to you. Because on the border, people are getting interdicted all the time by Border Patrol, Customs, Border Protection, et cetera. So like I had a lot of those types of cases. But that's not the norm for federal agents to respond and do what I call a reactionary case. Most of the time you're doing proactive investigations and you're working with an AUSA from the beginning and it's more long term. but you're not arresting anybody until the AUSA either takes you to the grand jury

and you and die, or they say, all right, let's do a criminal complaint. You type up the criminal complaint, you give it to AUSA's. Hell, in some jurisdictions, like in North Carolina, et cetera, the AUSA writes a complaint for you. I used to laugh.

I used to go like other jurisdictions or like anytime I'm traveling or go arrest somebody. Some of these other agents like, when I was a border agent, go somewhere else. I was like, oh, yeah, we're going to do a complaint or what?

Yeah, AUSA's right typing up. I'd look at them like, what the fuck your AUSA types your complaint? That's fucking crazy to me. But, you know, that just goes to show like, you know, how selective AUSAs are with taking cases. So that's another reason, too, why federal agents don't have as much power as they have. And then on top of that, like anything is like any little thing can get reported to your OPR office of professional responsibility. And then they also have something called OIG Office of Inspector General.

Right. And then obviously FBI does, are the biggest agent when it comes to public corruption. So, you know, and it's everybody's, every agent's fear it's like, you know, get in trouble or get arrested or whatever. because it's so hard to get the fucking job, like you don't want to fuck it up, right? They hire less than like 2% of qualified applicants to be an agent. It's very hard to get.

And then you do the strenuous background checks. And then on top of that you got OPR, I mean, I dealt with like OPR investigation when I was on a job for some bullshit. But like they have to investigate everything, right? Obviously I got cleared. It was, I got an altercation on a club in Miami. And then like someone like reported that.

And then I, next thing I know, I'm in the subject of a fucking internal investigation. I got cleared because the fucking bouncers lied. But that's what that's, that's the standard you're held to. Like if someone reports it in, boom, a case is going to get open against you. Internal Affairs is going to bring you in. It's an administrative investigation. They ask you a bunch of questions.

You can't lie, et cetera. That's a whole fucking rig and roll too. But these are all reasons why, like, at the federal level, corruption is harder. I'm not saying it's not there. It's absolutely there. There's shitbags everywhere. But it's less frequent than at the state and local level. Yeah, I wanted to be an FBI agent.

Yeah. Yeah, it's a freshman sophomore year. I actually got a condition. offer with them. I was an HSI agent at the time. But yeah, it's a, it's, you know, the FBI gets a lot of, a lot of, they get a lot of shit.

But, you know, most FBI agents are cool guys. To this day, one of my good friends is FBI agent. The thing is this, the issues at the FBI aren't at the agent level. The agents are cool a lot of the times. Like, they're cool, regular guys, whatever may be. A lot of times they were former cops,

former military, right? They're regular guys. It's the brass that cause issues. The guys at the higher levels, the special agents is charged, the directors, sex. Like these are the guys that are pushing the fucking bureaucracy bullshit or leading the

political persecution investigations. Like at the agent level, man, like these dudes don't go fuck. They're just chilling. Now these big cases with political figures, like Eric Adams and like Bob Menendez, when they go out and claim as like a defense like politically motivated, is that

true? It won't stand. They never will. Because the thing is they arrest people on a Democrat and on the Republican side. They got Hunter Biden. Then they go ahead and at, you know, Trump or Eric Adams, whatever may be. Like, their thing is like, we're apolitical. We don't go fuck.

We're going to come after you. So, you know, and that's what the FBI does. The FBI does public corruption. That is, so they have three main programmatic areas that they focus on. Number one is terrorism. Number two is espionage. And number three, there are three main cases. Case types.

And honestly, these are three main cases that they, like, have almost exclusive jurisdiction in, right? HSI does some public corruption cases, right? If there's like, especially if there's like a foreign nexus, but FBI does most of them and then also obviously bank robbery that's like more of a legacy crime that they investigate but

that's their thing so public corruption is a big thing that they do they have whole public corruption squads that just focus on that you're so knowledgeable at all this stuff do you do miss it like you live such a different life than what you do now you know I do I miss it a lot man that's why I do my Fed

Reaction channel you know and there's great talking with someone about this that's interested in this stuff because most of the time people just want to hear me talk about girls and bimbos and 304s. But, you know, this is really what I used to live and breathe, man. Like, I remember, like, I'd, you know, be out. Like, there were days where I'd, like, go out to work on a Monday. I wouldn't come back until fucking Thursday.

We'd be out on surveillance. We'd be doing controlled deliveries. You know, let's say you catch a load that comes in through the bridge, right? The lazy agent would just show up, you know, interview the guy. AUSA, hey, you want to take this case? We caught a guy with two kilos of cocaine. Yeah, I'll take it. All right, cool.

All right, so there's a little criminal complaint goes home and sleeps. The fucking go-getter, we show up. Hey, where was these drugs supposed to go? Chicago. All right, motherfucker. You're going to call the guy, and you're going to tell them you had a fucking tire blown out.

And that's why you couldn't call them on your incremental phone calls that you're supposed to do because they're supposed to check it every 20, 30 minutes. And if they don't, then they think that the logo got busted. So I'm like, you're going to call him right now and tell him that this is good. While he's making that phone call,

I'm kind of, hey, you'll say, hey, we're going to do a control delivery. Oh, well, you know, no, we're going to do it. I don't go fuck what you say. And then, boom, right? I hang up with the AUSA because at that point, we're going to take the case, right? I'm calling to Customs and Border Protection. I'm getting a pass-through memo because we're going to start driving these drugs through.

The guy's calling us a bad guy guy. You know, everything is still good. All right, cool. I'm calling the guys from my office. Yeah, we're going to do a controlled delivery, pack a fucking bag. We're going, you know, wherever. And then typically, because I was in Laredo, Interstate Highway 35 goes through there. And it's first major city of San Antonio about two.

and a half, 144 miles up north. Fucking pathetic, I remember this shit. But yeah, so you go up to San Antonio. From San Antonio, you got Interstate Highway 10. Interstate Highway 10 connects Los Angeles all the way to Jacksonville, Florida. And that's like the main drug corridor. Most of the drugs, they go to San Antonio, and then from there, you can go to any fucking major city you want.

You want to go to Houston, go east on Interstate 10. You want to go west coast. You can take Interstate 10, take you all the way to L.A. if you want, right? So we get to San Antonio. That's the first place, right? typically when you get that drug load there there's going to be uh it's in a car it's parked or whatever someone's gonna come and take it we fucking arrest that guy hey where these swugs supposed to go oh we're gonna take it to xyz and then you just kind of just leapfrog it and keep going

and just arrest more people and you just you know just keep doing a control delivery so i'd love doing shit like that you know um and it was fun uh like i was like the go-getter guy so people hated me for that too because like i'd drag him out of late night hey we're gonna do operation. Oh, come on, man, bro. What the fuck? That's why actually, when I was on the job, getting the weeds here right now, but anyone that's an investigator, you guys know what I'm talking about. I would love working with task force officers. So, and I kind of explained this earlier, but I'll go a little bit deeper. So task force officers or TFOs are deputized law enforcement that work under the hospice of a federal agency. And it could be a PD,

it could be a sheriff's office deputy. It could be another federal agent for another agency. and the reason why they're great to work with is because they get overtime, right? And they get overtime that the feds pay for when they're a TFO. So they'll be out there all in the fucking night with you, right? And this is why I like to work with DEA so much. This is, again, leveraging different agencies. ATF and DEA are heavily augmented by task force officers. So if I need a body to help me on surveillance or doing a control delivery or whatever,

I'd call them, hey, we're doing this operation, blah, blah, blah, you want to come out? and they'd be like, fuck yeah. Like I'm getting overtime and whatever. And mind you, these guys are local guys and they're also federal. So if I need a search warrant, right? We need it quick. He could write state paper, get us a search warrant for the house right away. And he can also get a local guy to do a traffic stop.

We want to get this guy identified without him knowing that the feds are on him. He could go ahead and do a traffic stop and make it look fucking natural. Oh, yeah, sorry, bust the tail light, blah, blah, blah. Figure out who he is. Figure out who the guy is with him and the car. So that's the beauty of having task force officers. I've always said task force officers are way more useful than fellow special agents because they have state authority and federal authority. You want to bust them on some state charge and bring them in for an interview?

They could do that. Do you think all these separate agencies are needed or can it all be combined under one roof? Good question. So I kind of ran into this when I was working with the Canadians because they have the RCMP and the CBS. I had a big national security case with Sri Lankans and I worked with them and I saw that they kind of had it more where they had one federal agency. Main federal agency, RCMP, who was there like FBI,

and then you have CBSA. And I think the way we have in the United States is good. And I'll tell you why. It makes all the agencies extremely competitive for stats, for arrests,

et cetera. And it really does, like it creates issues. Like I mentioned before with like the Title 21 between HSI and DEA and FBI fights over drug cases too because they do have,

they do drug cases. But it keeps things competitive and it really makes, you know, makes you work. So I think it's good. It keeps that creative element in there, especially when so many fucking federal agents are lazy.

I'll be honest with you. Like so many of them are fucking on retirement row, just chilling, oh, bro, why are you got to be a goal get a ice? I remember all the time, bro. Why? 9 to 5, man, 9 to 5, slow down. I don't get fuck.

And the thing is with feds, too, you don't get overtime. That's why a lot of them are so fucking lazy. So feds get paid on something called law enforcement availability pay, leap. So it's 25% of your base salary. So let's say you started your career, like I started out making like 50K a year. you get 25%

so that's 12.5k added to your salary. So that's 62.5k per year. That's it though. There's no overtime. None of that shit. That's what you get paid. So a lot of guys would do

and it's based on a 50-hour work week you're supposed to work 10 hours per day Monday through Friday and then you can get called out. That's why you have a cell phone. That's why you have a government car because you're an investigator. You're going to be called out anytime.

So a lot of guys would try to just do there 50 hours and get the fuck out and be good, right? But like with me, I was like, I did the math one time when I was on the border. I was going to pay like a dollar an hour with like how much I was like working his shit. But I loved it, man. It was great.

But that's why the TFOs are so good because they're not on that leap scale. They're getting paid by their agency. And then the Fed. So their agency pays them their salary, their base salary. Like let's say they're Laredo PD or, you know, state police, right?

Because we have a whole statewide thing here in Connecticut. State police pays them the salary. And then anything overtime, et cetera, when they're attached to a federal task force, gets paid by the feds. And they cover that. So for them, it's a W, right? because they get that overtime.

That's how the staying locals really make their money is through overtime. So that's why so many feds are lazy is because they're paid on that scale. Now, is it possible to get overtime as a Fed? Yes, but in rare instances, Title III intercept. You're on, you know, remember how I mentioned

like feds have to manage the wire room 24 hours has to be somebody there. So like the case agent a lot of time will be in there overseeing everything. He might get some overtime in that rare situation or protection detail agencies. Secret service and Department of Diplomatic Security Service, protecting foreign dignitaries and protecting the president or foreign dignitaries to visit

with Secret Service. Those are two main protection agencies at the federal level. They get a lot of overtime, a lot over time. If you want to make money, actually, Secret Service is the way to go. If you just care about making money and traveling, Secret Service is where you go. But that job fucking sucks. Because I've done secret service details. Fucking blows, dude.

Like, you're sitting there, garden a fucking trash can. Because you're not protecting the president a lot of times. You're protecting like some fucking random person or maybe like a former president's like kid or some shit. Like it's bullshit, bro. It sucks. Or like when the UN comes in, you're protecting a foreign president. I did a protection detail one time because HSI heavily augments secret service, especially during campaign times, which we can talk about the whole Trump is abstinition too, where the fuckups were on that. But HSI agents heavily augment that.

So what's up happening is you got an HSI guy who has like active cases shit that he's got to do back in office. but he's here in fucking, I don't know, fucking Milwaukee, protecting a foreign dignitary, whatever. He's like, what the fuck? This shit sucks. So I protected President Congo back in the UN 2017. Suck, dude. I was like, wow, I can never do this job.

Like, because you're doing like 12-hour shifts. You're sitting there in front of a door with a fucking suit on. It just blows. And they don't do criminal investigations like that Secret Service, especially now. Like, their main focus is protection. So, like, in the AUSA's office, never wants to take cases from them because they're always, like, gone, right?

because they actually do a lot of financial investigations. Counterfeit and stuff. Counterfeit money is their big thing. And then also credit card fraud and like retail scamming. So, but they can like never fucking do their cases because they always got to do protection. And they're severely understaffed because the problem with secret services, and this is a big issue that with the whole Trump thing when I've talked about it is since secret service relies so heavily upon other agencies to help them, a lot of time you don't actually have real secret service agents doing their protection details. It's HSI agents and other agencies. So they have like a manpower issue, like a huge manpower issue because anytime like a lateral gets announced where you can transfer to a lot of them like a lot of HSI agents are former Secret Service because there'll be a lateral.

So it end up happening since they're all under DHS and we all go to the same training at Fletsey. Criminal Investigator training program CITP and then you go into your add on right. So in this case, Secret Service has an add on, HSI has an add on like secret service guys, they can literally transfer over to HSI and leave. leave secret service. So they come on over to HSI because they're all 1811 special agents and they'll leave secret service because it sucks.

They have the highest divorce rates of some of the worst work life balances. So a lot of them leave and come on over to HSI to have a more stable life, have one field office, not travel as much,

actually do investigations long term, you know, better work balance. And then another agency, if we're going to talk about the worst agencies that people to work for, secret service, U.S. Marshal Service

fucking sucks too. Everyone thinks, and it's cool because, like, it's interesting because everyone thinks these two agencies are so cool, fucking blow. Because Secret Service people think, oh, I'm going to be on a fugitive task force.

No, you're not. You're going to wear a fucking suit and protect the magistrate judge all day, asshole. You're going to be in a fucking courtroom, right? Futuritive task forces, you're either A, you're a senior guy and you get in or B, you do it for rotation.

So a lot of jurors, Marshall's offices, the way they'll do it is, You'll do the, especially with like newer guys, they'll do two, three months where they do future task force. Then they get rotated into the core system doing protection. Then they go into like the jail system where they're like dealing with the bodies. Because when people first get arrested, the marshals process everything. It's not BOP.

It's the marshals. So they book them and do all that shit. Then once they get like convicted, then typically they'll be done with BOP unless you're in certain jurisdictions like, you know, right now with Diti, he's being held in MDC, etc. But a lot of times, like, that's still considered, like, a martial body. He's still, like, the marshals are the responsible for the body. BOP houses them, but he's technically a martial body until he gets sentenced by a district judge. Then he goes to the BOP. And then the other agency that sucks.

Let's see here. You got Secret Service, definitely. And then marshals. Oh, and then witness protection. So few of them actually do that shit. Like, that's like, and it's so hard to get. The only time I've ever seen witnesses actually get witness protection is like There were the they were like a member of the Mexican mafia or the bloods and they like put like 30 them in jail for like a Rico

All right you're gonna get witness protection for obvious reasons like you're gonna get killed if you go back out on the street because you test fight against one of the most Violent organizations but it's very hard to get it and very few marshals do it most of the time you're gonna be stuck on Processing bodies or in in the fucking court system like doing protection sucks DSS also kind of sucks But the difference there is like your international So like me But they don't really do Criminal case like that either

And if they do it's like bullshit passport fraud Brow who gets you Who's gonna fuck? A USA ain't gonna take that shit And the guy's gonna get like a fucking year I think like Tony Yeo from GUNA Got like hit with a passport fraud case Bro nobody gives a fuck about that shit

And then HSI picks up a lot of those cases We could do passport fraud too Because um HSI has immigration authority Wow So, you know, I'm trying to think. DSS, like, I mean, that could kind of, if you like doing protection and like being international. What else?

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FDA has a lot of compliance. They don't really make that many arrests. Like, they're finding people more. IRS, see criminal investigation. There, a lot of the times, they really shine when they work with other agencies. Like, they work really well with D.E.A. Because, like, D.E.A will do the criminal side with the drugs and then they'll do the money side. Like with the cartels and everything.

Yeah. Like, that's where, see, IRS shines when they're on other investigations with elite agency. they don't really do well by themselves because for them to like take a tax case on or whatever it's got to be egregious so they don't normally do criminal investigations by themselves they typically are working alongside another agency and they're handling the financial part

I'm trying to think I would say the two best agencies to work for if you want to be a special agent are FBI and HSI for sure because of the complex different types of crimes that you can do because like both of them have like a wide array of crimes that you could do FBI you got public corruption bank robbery

violent crime you can do espionage, you can do national security you could do terrorism you can do all that shit JTTF all that HSI, same thing

pretty much you could do HSI could do almost everything FBI does hell HSI is a big partner in the JTTF groups because another little secret

most people don't know hope you're enjoying the interview and you happen a lot I love it man people don't know this most terrorism cases get stopped by HSI not by the FBI

and I'll tell you why so you got the joint terrorism task force right, JTTF. JTTF is basically a conglomerate of different law enforcement agencies. You got FBI that leads it. This is typically run at the FBI field office. You got HSI there, state department, you know, DSS, Secret Service, D.EA, everybody typically has a chair there at the JTF.

And this was after 9-11 because this was a big problem. Industries weren't sharing information working together into one house. So these guys that are part of the JTF, they're basically like, think of them as like TFOs almost. Like they're deputized. They have all the same authorities as the FBI Special Agent. These guys that sit at the JTTTFF. right um so um what ends up happening a lot of times is the the the the the bread and butter charge for the fbile a lot of times is um material support for terrorism right but it's difficult

to prove that so what ends up happening is they can't get them on material support but the guy is here illegally or the guy is showing a visa etc whoop that's where hSI comes in we're canceling your visa we're kicking you the fuck out or we're turning you into an informant you're gonna you're you're gonna support us because you don't want to go back to fucking Yemen, do you? Oh, and also, I'll cooperate. Boom. And then you got an informant that can get you in with one of these, you know, extremist groups or whatever. But HSI is like a critical component to the JTTF. And it's amazing that like more people don't know this. But, well, I guess I'm here. But yeah, like a lot of times, like it's immigration cases or immigration authority that allows these

terrorism cases to flourish because the informants a lot of times are foreign nationals that have a vested interest in staying in the United States. Or a lot of the times, the guy had plot. They couldn't prove material support or a connection, a connection. So they just end up deporting him and removing him from the country through immigration. And that's where the HSI agent comes in because we have title eight authority. What were your favorite cases to work? Man, I really did like the Mexican organized crime that I did when I was on the border. But, you know, national security cases are fun too. They're just, they're just boring, though. Like, they can be, they're fun when they're revved up. But like, in the beginning, like, they're really

boring and like a lot of times like I said before these like cases like they end up going the immigration route where you're just like cutting their visa and get them to fuck out the country because you can't prove material support um espion espionage cases are cool I did one where a guy was shipping um F-14

or um fighter jesscomatics over to Iran that was a case I did uh here out of New Haven when I was like right when I became an agent um what else man I've done it all dude I've done human trafficking human smuggling drugs coming in, money going south, firearms.

Did a lot of firearms cases. One of my good friends, even to this day, ATF agents. So I would call him for everything. So anytime I was doing surveillance, there's some shit like that. I'm like, hey, man, we're going to do this or whatever. Or if I got a gun on another case, I'd give him the gun. Because, number one, it's easier for them because they can do a e-trace and find out who got the gun right away.

It's a pain in the ass for us to seize guns, right? because it was like, you know, it's, I'm going in the weeds here. But like evidentiary rules are like 24 hours. It's a high-risk item. You got to put in the vault. All this bullshit. I'm like, man, fuck that. Call my buddy, ATF.

Dude, I got a gun here. You fucking want it. Yeah, I'll open a case on my side. He sees it. It's a good staff for him. Good staff for me. I'm still able to stat it. He takes the gun.

You know what I mean? It's easier. It's better with them anyway because that's their bread and butter. I can get an E-trace done in 24 hours. And that's the beauty of like leveraging relationships and knowing who to call. I got a case where I need to get a phone toll on someone quick. I call my buddy DEA. Hey, this is what we got going on, blah, blah.

You want to be jump on this case? Sure, I got you. Boom. You know what I mean? And you work with these guys. Like, and I'm proud to say, like, I was able to, like, one of the few agents, like, I remember my office on Rado. They used to fight with DEA, man. Like, the damn near, like, coming to blows because we all used to sit in the same office.

HSI, FBI, DEA, we all sat in the same office. Right there on, it's public. Right there on fucking Shilohav. 109 SHILO have right there. And I was one of the few guys that was HSI that can go to the DEA office and they didn't like hate me and shit or not like not let me in. Like they had a rule like they wouldn't let HSI agents in.

Right? It was very bad because like you know, you're on the border. Both have Title 21. Both can investigate drugs. So you're looking at the same targets. Like it's causing issues and shit. I was like one of the few guys like they trusted me. They liked me. I got along with them. I had good relationships. I can make a phone call. I remember one time we had a murder for hire case. I was able to, like, a bunch of the guys in my office weren't available. I hit my guy over at DEA.

We had like 20 DEA agents out helping me out with the surveillance, right? And we're in this fucking rural-ass town in Texas, Kutula. And, yeah, you look that shit up on a map, again, fucking middle of nowhere. But, you know, that ended up working out well because, like, you know, having those relationships. So, and that just applied, that just doesn't apply for, like, law enforcement. But like anything in life.

Podcasting. Yeah, podcasting. You know, you want to be able to network. You want people that like you, being trustworthy. But the reason why is because, like, I always stuck to my word. If someone, like, if I said, hey, I need help or whatever, they come out and help me. But then if they ask me for help, I always came out no matter how I felt. You know, like, I'm going to be two to three o'clock in the morning.

You call me? I might be fucking tired, but I'm going to show up. And then people remember that shit, especially when so many different agents are lazy or whatever. When, you know, and this applies to everything in life. You know, like, if you're there and you're available and you're able to help people out, they're going to go the 10 mile to help you. Yeah. Were you always entrepreneurial, like, as a kid?

No. No. So it's just, like, kind of flicked, like, halfway through. So to do that, like, so the special agent position is, like, a job where you have a lot of freedom. Like, you kind of come in when you want, you leave when you want. You know, unless you've got, like, a stickler of a supervisor, like, you could really do whatever you want. And, like, for me, since I was always working, my supervisor never bothered me, ever. Like, every supervisor I've had was always good to me because I was always, like, making arrests out and doing shit.

So they never called me, like, where are you at or blah, blah, blah, blah. Like I remember I used to go into the office at like 5 p.m. sometimes. And like I'd like work at night and no one gave a fuck. Because it's normally a 9 to 5 job. But I'd work at night because like I did drug cases and shit like that. But so you had to like a lot of liberty to do things on your own time. So I guess like that mindset I kind of took it to me with the entrepreneurial side. But like yeah, dude, I'm not going to lie.

Like when I transitioned over, I didn't like I wasn't expecting to resign. And I left on good terms. Like I didn't like leave. Like they were shocked that I was leaving because like I had a big case of the time. So like, why are you sure you want to leave? Are you sure? Everyone called me, dude, the people, agents from Laredo that I worked with,

like, dude, I heard you're fucking resigning. Why don't fucking leave? What are you doing? Because they're government employees. They're not used to like leaving it, you know, because you got a government check coming in every two weeks. Nice and safe. Retirement.

Benefits, like going to entrepreneur. It was unheard of. No one leaves that fucking job. And then like, like, explained you before. Like, it's so hard to get it. So, um, so for me, I guess I kind of just like figured it out. But dude, I'm not going to lie. Like, that first month or two else,

fucking nervous because I was like, holy shit, I'm really giving up a hundred K a year plus job and benefits to fucking talk shit to some bitches. What am I doing? So, you know, it was definitely scary at first, but you know, we figured it out and everything, you know, and we got lucky God, God bless me. But yeah, it was definitely, I'm not, I would be lying to you if I told you, I had to figure it out from the beginning. Like, hell no, dude. And most government in place aren't natural entrepreneurs at all. Are you glad you took that risk looking back on it? Or do you wish you stayed? So you shouldn't even take me this long to answer this

From financial perspective Not even close Like very well off Got 21 rental property Real estate properties I own like 50 plus tenants Like I would never been able to make this money Doing the federal route right From a financial perspective

But from like A personal perspective Like I didn't want to fucking leave man Like granted I'm able to help way more people On a way higher scale now Like people call me all the time Dude I was gonna fucking you know kill myself, but I watched your video and you taught me like to not be a

sim and now I can like finally stand up to my girl and she respects me now and we're having sucks again and you know I'm not a sucker or you know I was broken I figured out how to make money thanks to your credit card tips or whatever so you know I'm able to help way more people now at scale but dude like doing that job uh you know being a federal agent like arresting people because I used to put some really bad people away like when I was on a border like I was dealing really bad people. Like I was like catching pedophiles all the time. Violent fucking Mexican cartel people.

Like really bad people. So it was really satisfying because I wasn't like arresting like some bullshit like, oh, you smoke some joints. Like these are dudes smuggling thousands of pounds of drugs or, you know, touching kids or, you know, kill him motherfuckers. Like, I'll never forget this one time. Funny story. Well, not so funny, but never forget this.

It was a Sunday. It was like 2015. Obviously you don't work on the weekends. and but I was on duty, which when you're on duty, that means like you're on call. And on the Southless border, that's a big deal because every time something happens, they're going to call you. Hey, we caught this guy with like 10 illegal aliens. You know, hey, we got this guy at the bridge with three kilos of Coke. So when you're on duty, like, you ain't going to go out and drink or party nothing because you're going to call.

Border Patrol calls me, hey, we caught this load of aliens. We don't have the foot guide. He ran away. But there's one someone in the group that says he wants to talk to a federal agent. He has some information. Normally, most people say, fuck that shit. I'm not going out to talk to some guy. I don't even know what the info is.

Like, fuck that shit. I'm not going to go. But I say, you know what? Fuck it. I'll go. I go. Border Patrol Station, I never get this shit. Laredo South.

Right there on fucking shallow drive. Walk in. Got my little polo shirt on shit because I'm from New England, Connecticut, right? Got my fucking Ralph Lauren and some fucking boat shoes and shit. They look at me like I'm crazy. What fuck is this guy? I'm black too.

Everyone there is fucking Mexican, right? Where I'm an era, whatever the fuck. Whatever people want to call me nowadays. So I walk in. All right, where's the guy? Brings me this little fucking Mexican, dude. They, um, he, in the board patrol agent tells me he doesn't want to talk to any of us. He wants to talk to a special agent.

He wants to talk to an investigator. He doesn't want to talk to us. All right, cool. Bring him in the room. I'm sitting there talking to him, right? Just me. Because I don't want to bother anybody, right? Like, I'd only, that was one thing, good thing.

Like, if I called you, that meant like I really needed you, right? Like, normally you're supposed to interview a guy with two people, whatever the fuck. But like, this guy's a source. He wants to help out. Let me see what the fuck he's got to say. say if it's even worth it for me to call somebody here. So I sit down with him. All right, what do you got?

Hey, I used to work for one of the Trevinoes. I think it was his brother, something like that. Miguel Trevino Morales was like the main guy. He was Z-40. So this guy did protection for his detail, right? And the way, just so people understand in Mexico at the time, because Laredo is across the river. So you got Laredo, Texas,

and then you got the Rio Grande River, and then you got Nueva Laredo right there. which is within the state of Tamilipas, Mexico, right? And at the time, when I was there, like, 2014-2015-ish, there was a fucking war going on. Like, I heard machine guns every fucking day and shit because, like, my old house was right there next to the river. So you better hear it.

And it wasn't like the police fighting the cartel. It was the Mexican Marines. It was like, these guys were militarized, and that's one thing the Zetas were known for as being militarized because a lot of them were former Mexican Marines. So this guy, back to the story, I'm sitting there and talking with him. He's like, yeah, I work for,

one of the, one of the Trevinoes, et cetera, I do protection. Oh, tell me about your duties. Yeah, so I would, you know, I would be in the motorcade, driving the trucks, and one other Mexican Marines will come at us. You know, my job was to create a diversion.

I'd get out, I started shooting AK-47 at them. The boss would escape, and my job was to kill as many Mexican Marines as possible. And then what I would do is, I'd cut off the finger of each person that I killed, and I'd bring it back to the boss. And he'd pay me a bonus. He told me all this, all this very frank and can't,

I was like, no stutter. Like, calm, just saying it. Like, it's another damn office. And obviously me, I'm like, you know, I'm like about a year, year and a half on the border now at this point. And, you know, I'm a fucking dude from Connecticut and he went to college of Northeastern University.

I'm listening to this shit. I'm like, what the fuck is wrong? This motherfucker. My little Patagonia hat on. And, you know, I'm like, looking in calm or whatever. But I'm like, what the fuck is this? What the fuck am I doing here, man?

And he's just like talking about it. And he's like how he would get paid like a bonus for every body part that he brought. And I was like, holy shit. So, and then he mentions my supervisor at the time, like my second line supervisor, not my direct supervisor, not the supervisor special agent in charge, but an assistant special agent in charge. I used to work with XYZ. I used to provide him information. I was like, oh, shit, really?

So I'm like, okay, well, give me a second. I go on and I call him, hey, this dude is here. He's providing information, blah, blah, blah. And at the time, I was in a human smuggling group. And I called the guy. I was like, hey, is this guy legit, blah, blah, have you worked with him? He's like, yeah, this guy, oh, he's back. The first thing he's back.

I was like, hey, is he legit? He was like, yeah, he's legit. I was like, well, he's here. He's in America again. He wants to provide information. He wants to flip. He's like, all right, I'll send him one of the guys from my group. Because at the time, we had a border violence slash kidnapping group.

So I was a, so that's a whole other group squad that does that stuff. So one of those agents responded and kind of took it from there. And I went home because I was like, I was like, bro, I got shit to do. you know, they might call me for whatever. But that interview sticks out to me because of just like how cold in Cali she was about it. Like it was just like, just a job. Kill the motherfuckers and chopping their body parts off so that can get a little bit more money. And he had like kind of tried to come to the United States because he had family here and shit like that.

So he was like, look, I want to cooperate. And, you know, just in exchange. And I'll give you the Trevino's. But in exchange, I don't want to, you know, I need protection and the ability to stay in the United States. So I don't know what ended up happening. I'm assuming he probably provide information or whatever because that second line supervisor, when he was an agent, he was a rock star agent, was a very good agent,

very respected in the office. So when he told me, oh, yeah, no, he's legit, whatever. I was like, okay, cool. And then he told me to call this other guy that I was friends with that was in the kidnapping group or border violence group. I called him and he showed up and dealt with it from there. But yeah, man, that's just the type of people that I was around all the time. So that's how, like, I got quickly very calloused to deal

with like some of the worst fucking people. And that's just one story I can give. I've dealt with, you know, murderers and killers and pedophiles and all this shit. And you kind of have to put on that poker face when you're talking to them. When he's telling me this show, I was fucking like, holy shit. Just the canonness of how he would do it. And then also he would like, went into detail of like how he would like make sure they were in pain. And he would torture them sometimes.

And he had like a whole like kill list of the people he took out and all this shit. And he did it because there was financial incentive for him to do it. The more Mexican Marines he killed, the more his boss paid him. Insane. a crazy world. Dude, fucking wild. You know, you're some dude from Connecticut

fucking new brain and you're listening to this show. Like, holy fuck, man. No, I love these type of stuff. It's so fascinating and someone that has like the,

the insight knowledge. Southless border is another world, dude. It's another world. It's not like America. Yeah. It really isn't. Whether you're in

fucking Laredo, Del Rio, El Paso, Nogales, you know, San Acidro, right? Like, anybody that works

Customs or Agist on the border knows exactly what I'm talking about. And most agents have to start their career on the border. But I thank God I did it though. Because on the border, it's like dog years. Like one year on the border is like the equivalent to like seven years in like an interior

offices. Because you're getting called all the time. Like you're on duty, right? You're on call? I'll never forget my first day on the job. My first day on duty. So I report in 2014 sometime in like August. Like September is the first time I'm on call.

Right? And you're all called for 24 hours, right? Contrast that was if you're like in an interior office, you're on call for. a week. On the border, you're only I'll call for like between six to 24 hours because the call volume. So first day, I'll never forget this shit. Board Patrol calls me. Hey, we got a guy here, full guide, six illegal aliens, et cetera. That's obviously above a USA threshold. I'm responding. I go over there, talk to him. He confesses, yeah, I was smoking these aliens, blah, blah, blah, blah, right? I'll never forget. Leobardo was the fucking guy's name. A public case now,

so it's whatever. I won't say his last name. But hook him up, take him to the jail, right? Drop them off at the Webb County Sheriff's Office jail. Right there on Interstate 35 all the way down, boom, drop them off. Get another call. Hey, we got a truck driver here. He got caught with 11 illegal aliens in the back. Oh, shit.

Now, for those that are unaware, Laredo, Texas, right? Interstate 35 goes through it. And on the way to San Antonio, because Interstate 35 takes you from Laredo, directly to San Antonio. There's something called a border patrol checkpoint. Charlie 29, I think is what it's called, 29 miles from the border. And the reason why it's there,

strategically put there, is because the functional equivalent, according to immigration law, is zero to 29 miles outside of the border. So border patrol still has authority to do immigration inspections there. So everyone that comes through the border patrol checkpoint, they're asking them, hey, are you an immigration,

are you a U.S. citizen, blah, blah, blah, yes, you are, and they go through. But while they're asking this question, They're running canines on the car, et cetera. And if they smell humans, they'll stop it. And if they catch illegal aliens, and they'll arrest them for human smuggling, right? So I'm literally dropping his guy off of the Webb County Jail.

They call me, oh, yeah, we got a guy here with 11 illegal aliens. Oh, shit. We're at checkpoint 29. Fuck. So I got to drive 30 miles north to the checkpoint, right, up there. I get there. Guys there. Fucking, I remember his, Pintojo, some shit like that, talking to him.

and as I'm there at the fucking checkpoint, mind you, I still got to do paperwork for the fucking first guy arrested of criminal complaint, a whole arrest package, right? Because I got to be at court the next day, initial appearance at 9 a.m. It's already like 10 to 11 p.m. now, right? Talking to this guy, while I'm there interviewing him,

mind you, by the way, you have to talk to the illegal aliens that they smuggled as well because they're all witnesses. You have to talk to, not just him, which takes an hour or two hours to talk to his ass to get a confession. Now you've got to talk to the illegal migrants that were smuggled by him. where'd you come from?

How much did you pay? Where was your final destination? You have to ask them all these questions, right? Because each one of them is a witness in the criminal case. And then you have to take two or three of them and keep them as what's called a material witness. So not only do you arrest the main guy, you got to take two or three witnesses

and throw them in the jail, the Webb County jail as well as material witnesses. Right? So I took Leo Bardo and two or three guys from his load to the jail. Now I'm there dealing with Pantoho and his fucking people. And I'm there interviewing him. I'll never forget this shit.

two Border Patrol just come in with this fucking guy, right? Like in Cuffs, yeah, this fucking guy punched us. I'm like, what the fuck? So at the time, this is back in 2014, it was like a trend to go through checkpoints and not answer the question when Border Patrol asks you of what citizen are you. So the fucking guy, idiot.

He's like from somewhere in Europe. He's a green card holder. Motherfucker, you got to answer the question. You're not a U.S. citizen. Instead of answering the question, he's like, this is an illegal checkpoint. I'm not answering your questions. Well, when you do that,

you're violating the law impeding official duties of a federal agent. And he fucking like punch him on the border patrol agents. So they bring his ass in screaming at him, you motherfucker, blah, blah, blah, because he like punched him. Him and this other guy. I forget where they're from. They're like from Romania or some Eastern European country.

These two fucking guys, green, one was a visa holder. The other one was like green card holder. And they're like, we don't need to answer your questions. This is illegal checkpoint. Trying to be funny, trying to go viral on YouTube. And they punch him. And I'm like, what the fuck? So they throw his ass in a cell next to fucking pantoros.

I'm talking to him. I'm like, oh my God. So now I know I got another case. And obviously the border protractors are pissed. They're like, well, this guy fucking assaulted us, blah, blah. They got it all on video. So I'm the investigator, right? I'm there.

I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to fucking take it. I'm like, all right, let me call the AUSA, see if I can get concurrence. Call the AUSA. Yeah, this fun guy, I'm here right now dealing with what case with this fucking guy with 11 illegal aliens. He's confessing. And I got these fucking two European motherfuckers that like decided upon a bunch of border agent and I answer questions. Yeah, yeah, we'll take both cases.

And it's like 1 o'clock at the morning right now, by the way. It's like 1 or 2 a.m. Call the headway, AUSA. Yeah, I got this. Yeah, okay, it's fine. All right, yeah, we'll take it. All right, cool. So I take Pintojo and two or three of his people.

And then these fucking dumbasses that don't want to answer questions, right? They got these accents, right? Because I go in there, I go ask, like a, so I'm done with Pintojo. They're cuffed up and ready to go to the jail. Now I go deal with these two knuckle huds. Hey, special AJ Mufrodo, blah, blah, blah. I'm not talking to you. I want a lawyer. All right, cool. Awesome.

Makes it easier for me, buddy. Cool. Go talk to the other guy. Hey, where are you guys doing today? Ah, fuck you, man. We're not going to talk to you, bro. We want a lawyer. I know what this is. I want a lawyer. I know my rights. Okay, buddy.

Okay. Cuff them up. Take all of them to the fucking jail. The fucking pentahoe and the legal aliens and these fucking Eastern European guys that didn't want to answer questions. And then Leo Bartow is still there too. So now I got to go to fucking, I got to write up three criminal complaints, affidavits, all the arrest paperwork

because mind you I got to do the AUSA paperwork the Marshal's paperwork then I also got to do the Webb County Sheriff's Office paperwork because they have

because it's the jail but the marshals I contract with them kind of like similar to what you dealt with with with Wyatt same thing so I'm writing all this paperwork and shit like that

bro it's like five six in the morning I'm like oh fuck so I send all the paperwork over go home don't sleep just shower put on a suit

go to the fucking courthouse meet with the judge he's there. Okay, do you swear everything is true and correct the best of your knowledge? Yes, boom. Sign affidavits for all the criminal complaints. Going to the courtroom wait and then they bring all their asses in. Mind you, every agency is there. I'm there. D.E.A. is there. FBI is there. Um, uh, border patrols there because everyone, because the border is so fucking everyone's getting arrested. D.E.A caught a guy was smuggling weed the night before, right? The FBI arrested some fucking corrupt sheriff's deputy or some of shit or whatever the fuck they're there for.

bank robbery, I don't know. And we're all just sitting there and in her fucking suits like, what are you here for? Oh, yeah, I'm here for this. What are you here for? Oh, yeah. ATF's there.

A guy fell in a car with a gun. You know, we're all just sitting there in our fucking monkey suits at 9 o'clock in the morning. No, everyone's tired. Everyone's been working the whole night, right? From all the agencies, because the border is so fucking crazy. Laredles one of the busiest judicial offices

in the fucking country. And there's like, mind you, I remember I'd be at initial appearance sometimes. There'd be like 100 motherfuckers in there. I kid you not. 100 fucking defendants. Because Border Patrol catches a bunch of these illegal aliens that try to come in. And it's their second or third time trying to come in.

1326. 8 U.S.C. 1326 illegal reentry. That's a felony. So Border Patrol brings in their fucking, you know, 50, 70 bodies of people that came in illegally or sometimes they would charge them 1325 as well, which is you come in. Normally it's like on the second time they do it, they'll give them the first time you come in and like get the fuck out of air, expedite removal. Second time they hit them with the 1325, which is like a bullshit misdemeanor, but they still arrest them for it to kind of. and set of precedence. And then I'm in there

and everybody else is in there so you're sitting there for like two, three hours for initial appearance. It's supposed to be at 9 o'clock. You don't get out to like 11. So I didn't, I worked the whole night, didn't sleep.

Fucking Pintoho, Leobardo. I'm waiting for them to fucking go through. But Border Patrol puts their people first. So you got to wait until they put their 100 motherfuckers through. And you're like, oh my God. We were just sitting there, waiting for Pintojo and Leobardo

right to go through. And then the fucking, and this hit the news. Like I could say, the two nameshot evangium and then some like evangium and then like a shot the two idiots the german the not germans the europeans that they didn't want to fucking answer the questions waiting for their dumb asses to go through as well you know because the judge brings them in hey you're being charged with alien smuggling or you're being charged with impeding a federal official right and you got to wait there until your guy is done until the marshals until the i wrote a little song to remind you choice hotels get you more of the experiences you value the can be a hotel's got it all A rooftop bar, have a ball. Bring a date, your squad, or even your mom. Book direct at choiceotails.com.

I say, until the judge says, you're remanded to the marshals, you can't leave. Because technically, that's your prisoner. Wow. So sat there until like 11 o'clock, didn't sleep the night before. And bro, had many nights like that on the border. Dude, you live such a different life now. Whole other world. Now I'm yelling at bitches.

So where do you go next from here? Like, you have the podcast, you're doing your thing. What's next for you? Just, you know, growing the pod, helping guys out, right? My thing is, like, I try to help as many guys out, whether it's, you know, mindset, not being a fat piece of shit, getting a gym. Again, getting their financial situation situated, you know, using credit properly, buying real estate, investing cryptocurrency, you know, building, becoming financially free. Not being a simp, not getting abused by women and their girlfriends. Because so many guys, like, have zero idea how to deal with women properly, right?

Say, stupid shit. happy wife, happy life, happy life. Like, bro, what the fuck? Like, no, it's happy king, happy kingdom, motherfucker. Like, women don't rule shit. Men rule the world. Women are just living in it, right? It's a man's world.

And it's always been a man's world. And I'm like a big proponent of like men being men, women being women, men being leaders, protecting and providing like we're supposed to fucking do. And then women like, you know, raising the kids and having a family, man. The nuclear family is the backbone of any thriving society. And we've kind of, you know, segue from that. So definitely, we're going to be a segue from that. want to push that message out more because we've gotten like radically liberal radically left I think

that leads to a lot of problems in society um and yeah man just really help guys out with like getting their shit together and not being scumbags in the process not being criminals not doing drugs I'm anti-alcohol anti-drugs you know just having guys live like a straight hour of our life and doing shit the right way does that get repetitive always talking about that because you know compared to law enforcement new case all the time yeah me and my role something different every time you're right You're right. Good question. Repetition is important, right?

They always say practice makes perfect. And unfortunately, we have such a fucking problem with masculinity and men being men and guys just being sims and being suckers that you guys. It's like I'll say something and I might reach 10 people. Then I say it again. I might reach 12 people. Then I say it again. I might reach one new person. And it's like you just kind of have to be a broken record and repeat this stuff because you're reaching new people all the time.

And to some people, you can't start from like, you know, X, Y, Z. You've got to go ABC because it's the first time they're hearing this stuff. And a lot of people will hear me for the first time and think like, this guy's fucking radical. Holy shit. He's saying men need to be men. There's two genders? What? You know, so it's like I almost kind of have to walk it back a little bit to kind of explain to people like, this is how I came to this conclusion.

This is why I think the way that I do. And I'm able to like, I have to like systematically explain it to people why you had to do things in a certain way, why you have to behave a certain. away with women and why you have to be the leader, why you have to be the dominant, why you can't be on this, you know, bullshit of liberalism, et cetera. It just doesn't work. Like, it's like trying to put a square peg into a circle thing. Like, you know, they'll sit there and say, man and women are equal and feminism and all those other stuff, but it doesn't work in practice, right? You look at women, right, that are super successful, that make a bunch of money. They still want a guy that makes more money than them and is more masculine and more dominant than them. I mean, this was a problem when I was

in the law force world. Every woman I met could never find a fucking boyfriend or can never find like maintain a long-term relationship. Why? Because she was fucking masculine as shit. And most guys that are super masculine don't want a masculine woman. They want a hyper-feminine woman. Right. So the guys that I saw that had like stable relationships and were married, their wife stood at home. He was the main breadwinner, etc. But like anytime I saw it was like two agents that were married, it never worked. It never fucking worked. Unless like the female agent like had kind of like, she does like a more outreach job. She's like doing more like bullshit

stuff like behind the scene. She's doing more like support and the support mission role. right and she's not like a go-getter agent to go-get her agent females and they never lasted with their man ever and it's just the thing like you know there's a masculine there's a feminine you know and it just works that way that's just the way we were built you know

and people try to sit here and try to rewrite biology and you know it just doesn't work that way so you know I'm all for common sense but I sad to say common sense is no longer common well listen man thank you so much for sitting down with me today I'm so glad we could make this work and we were saying out there

there's no podcasters that come to fucking Connecticut. Yeah, none. This is home for me, man. So, you know, obviously it was great to come. Thank you for having me on. I was yapping quite a bit. I hope you're on has gained some, like, real insights to how, like, federal cases work.

I think the best episodes are when the guest yaps. Because, you know, it's at my platform is guest-driven. Yeah, yeah. So it's really cool to see. You're a great interview. I appreciate that, like, you let people finish their sentences and everything, and they let them go into tangents. Hopefully I was able to bring it back and say what I needed to say from the beginning.

Well, that's how you know your talent. because you remembered everything how to bring it back. Some people, when they go on a tangent, they don't remember. Yeah, yeah. That's a big thing for me because I'm like, all right. As I'm like talking, I'm like, yep, you're going on a tangent. Bring it mother back with the whole six-night thing. I was like, I was going down to tangent for a reason.

Okay, this is why. Yeah. Oh, that's incredible. And, you know, hopefully you come back, use a studio and we see more you out here. No, absolutely, man, absolutely. That came actually, that skill set came from, like, dealing with criminals all the time. Like, you'd be able to, you have to be able to, like, generate a conversation with them and find common ground. so I found myself like learning random weird shit

because like you know these criminals they're still people like they have like backgrounds and interests and hobbies and shit so we'd like shoot the shit about like random stuff like one guy was like a former professional frisbee player's shit tell me about how used to play frisbee and how like to whip it out properly and shit you'd be sitting there talking about them for hours about this random shit on that note something I realized like after the postal inspectors arrested me

they were like casual we were shooting the shit we were talking about it when I was in the car going to the courthouse they were talking about it about, you know, federal cases they've worked. They're, like, bringing down drug dealers. Like, they're, they're normal people. Yeah, they are. It's incredible. They are, man.

And a lot of them are, you know, a lot of feds and cops get, like, bad raps because there's, like, you know, there's always going to be bad ones, right? There's always going to be criminals and pieces of shit. People that were rude or that are rude. But, like, you know, I've always said this. My job is to take away your liberty, but not your integrity, right? We're going to take away your freedom, but we're not going to fucking take your manhood away from you or shit on you.

Like, I was, and one of the. reason why I always just get people to like talk to me is because like, you know, I'd buy the fucking food. I'd treat them well. You know, I'd always talk to them in like a calm voice. I'd just shoot the shit with them like me and you are right now. Like, I treat them like a human. And like when you, that goes a long way. Because a lot of agents like get like this fucking like Napoleon complex. I'm the agent. I'm going to talk to you. Like fuck that shit. Like that whole thing. I'm a special agent blah, blah, blah. That was so fucking lame. Like I would never ever, unless like it was like a formal situation, I would never introduce myself

as that I'd show my cred's quick as fuck and put it back up and I'd like just talk to like normal, right? This whole thing about the movies of wearing a suit and talking all formal fuck. That that's bullshit. You don't get far doing that shit, man. Like, I used to wear jeans and t-shirts to work every day. Like, I would always, I'd never wore like suits or shirts and ties. The only time I would do that shit is to court.

And I remember, it's funny. Like, the guys I work with, like, if you showed up in a suit, they'd make fun of you. They'd say, get the fuck out of here, buddy. Like, FBI, they wear suits. You know, that's why I make fun of them. But anyone that's, like, on the street really fucking working, bro, you ain't never going to get by wine of. fucking shirt, are you fucking stupid. T-shirts, jeans, sneakers, look like you're normal. You never know when you get called out to do some surveillance

and shit. You got to be out in public. Like, dude, plain clothes, man. Yeah. Well, thank you again, man. And safe travels back. Thank you for having me, Ian.