Locked In with Ian Bick - KINGPIN On How To SURVIVE In Max Security Fed Prisons | Unique

Episode Date: January 11, 2024

Unique's story is nothing short of thrilling, taking us from his rise as a New York City kingpin to his dramatic fall, resulting in a life sentence. During his more than two decades in prison, Unique ...has gathered a wealth of knowledge and wisdom that he's now determined to use for the better. Join this channel to get early access to new episodes & Behind the Scenes Content: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRvVklIft6DMelVW18M0oBw/join Big thanks to www.findagreatattorney.com for sponsoring this episode. If you are injured anywhere in the country, visit https://findagreatattorney.com, a free service that can find you one of the best lawyers in your area. You focus on getting better and they’ll do the rest. Follow Ian Bick on Instagram: @ian_bick & Snapchat: ianbick Connect with Unique: YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_AUPzveIuso3cYXKgWvlqA Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/uniquemeccaaudio/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/discover/unique-mecca-audio Purchase his book: http://aroarinharlem.com Buy Merch: https://lockedinbrand.com Use code lockedin at checkout to get 20% off your order Connect with Ian Bick: https://www.ianbick.com Powered by Creative Evolution Studios https://creativeevolutionstudios.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:27 So the flip-fops in prison go like this. When we go to the shower, we put our flip-flops in a little gin bag with our, you know, cosmetics and everything else. And then we put our boots on. And when we get in the shower, then we take the boots off and put the flip-fops on in the shower, and we got two homies standing outside of the cell holding it down. So if something happened, you can bang on the door, you know, to hurry up and put your boots on and bring your-down there. We're going to hold the door until you get your boots on.
Starting point is 00:00:55 So you can't tell them, I ain't got my boots, dog. you know what I mean? Or you come run out to shower and flip flops and you sliding all over the place getting crushed and getting them crushed where if you would have had your boots on and would have been suited and booted and ready for war
Starting point is 00:01:07 because life is a war whether you're in prison or you're on the street. Get ready for an entertaining episode as we welcome our special guest and someone you've been asking for on this show, Wayne Hall, known as unique.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Unique story is nothing short of thrilling taking us from his rise as the New York City kingpin to his dramatic fall, resulting in a life in prison sentence. During his more than two decades in prison, Unique has gathered a wealth of knowledge and wisdom that he's now determined to use for the better. He's not just a YouTube content creator, but also the author of the gripping book, A Roar in Harlem, providing even more insight into his extraordinary journey. Be sure to check out the links in this episode description to connect with Unique on social media and explore his captivating book.
Starting point is 00:01:57 episode you really don't want to miss. This episode is brought to you by findagrateattorney.com. If you are injured anywhere in the country, visit find a great attorney.com, a free service that can find you one of the best lawyers in your area. You focus on getting better and they'll do the rest. Huge, huge thank you to findagate attorney.com for sponsoring this episode. Guys, I don't know if you know, but the other day there was a snowstorm in my hometown, Danbury, Connecticut. I had left my car on the street thinking that it was okay to park there. I didn't get the notifications from the Damme city of Danbury.
Starting point is 00:02:36 They're not the best with social media. I got to say that about them. But I didn't get any notifications. I did sign up for their notification system going forward. I didn't know you had to remove your car from the street. And I thought that where I parked was okay because it wasn't the meters and I was thinking that was a part to my building. And anyways, I wake up to an alert on my phone that my car got towed.
Starting point is 00:03:01 There's like this app that connects to my car and it tells me. And that was at 5 a.m. woke up at 8 a.m. to that news. I was so sick bad. That was devastating news. And what ends up happening is I couldn't get the car back the date of the storm after. Which, by the way, it wasn't really a storm. It was kind of a fluke.
Starting point is 00:03:20 So they put this whole snow emergency together. basically, there was like two or three inches, max. But it triggered the snow alert saying you had to get your cars off the street, yada, yada, yada. Couldn't get the car back that day because the place was closed. So I go in there the next day and I'm waiting in line and one of the guys is, you know, like a little bit giggling at me. And he's like, they got your car. Don't blast us out on social media. I'm like, no, it's not your fault, guys.
Starting point is 00:03:56 I have no quarrels with you, no problem. And then another guy comes out. And I didn't know he was the owner, but he says, come outside. And he's like, give me your keys, what car is yours? And I follow him. And he brings me to the back of the lot where they keep the cars. And he's like, it's on us. Here you go.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And he gives me my car keys. And another guy was graciously wiping off my car. and he didn't have to do that. This gentleman, this is Majaleski's towing company on Federal Road in Danbury. He did not need to do that. This is probably the nicest thing someone in Danbury, a business owner, has done for me in many years. And it's really nice to see that great business guy. And it really means a lot to me.
Starting point is 00:04:42 And, you know, if I need anything, car, auto body, whatever, I'm going to him because of that act of kindness he did today. And I got to say, I'm going to remember. recommend him to everyone I know because of what he did. So thank you again to Moduleski's towing service in Danbury, Connecticut for that act of kindness. And that was my little story. I don't normally do this, but I really had to share the story, give you guys a little bit of faith in humanity because that really made my day and it went a long way. And, you know, the last week's kind of been hard, stressful, a lot of things going on work-related.
Starting point is 00:05:17 And that made my day. and then it made my year so far. So thank you again to them. And I hope you guys sit back, relax, and get ready to lock in with Unique. If you're talking and I want to say something about what you're saying instead because I don't do the cutting off. Yeah, I don't do it.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I just do this, you know what I mean? So if I'm saying something and you want to speak on it, just put a finger up. And when I see your finger, then I know that. You know what I mean? Should I do that the whole episode? No, just throughout the whole thing because they can't see you. No, don't put it up.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Just on the low. No, then I'm going to finish it. finish what I'm saying to know that you wanted to ask a question about it. I'm going to say things that you might want to follow up on. So we don't, you know, bump heads. It's just something I do when I record. So you don't have to do it. You're used to the unprofessional interviewers.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Okay. I'm okay. Because dudes cut you off all the time and you got to let them know. Unique, man. Welcome to Lockton, bro. It is an honor. You know, thank you to Johnny Mitchell for connecting us. You know, I don't know if you saw, do you watch TikToks at all?
Starting point is 00:06:29 Yeah. So a couple weeks ago, Johnny, Johnny told your story on my show from beginning to end. I didn't interrupt him. That clipped at like 4 million views. Get out of here. Sharing your story. And everyone was commenting, so half the comments were I need you on the show, which is great.
Starting point is 00:06:45 It's like the universe said Johnny connect me. And number two, you know who people compare you to? Who? The unique in power. Oh, yeah. Have you heard that before? Yeah, because that's me all day. They already know what?
Starting point is 00:06:56 You know what I mean? So I don't have to get on there and yell it. You know what I'm saying? The Dapper Dang Gucci jacket, the BMW from Harlem, the four open front gold teeth, the flat top. And of course, they got Joey Badass that looked just like unique back in the days. Come on, dog.
Starting point is 00:07:12 I can put up pictures next to it, and you think that that was, you know, so we don't have to, you know. You know they killed them off in the last episode. Yeah, but I don't think they're going to be that dumb. They're probably going to have that he was really alive and, you know, somebody going to find him. And he might be laid up with Rock somewhere
Starting point is 00:07:26 trying to take care of him while his brother Kenny trying to kill Rock. You know how it is, man, it's movies. I love that you watch Power. That's awesome. We used to, I was telling you the other day, we watched in the Fed Joint. We put on the USBs, the little SD cards. Yeah. And we'd sneak them in when the guards weren't looking and watch it.
Starting point is 00:07:42 You see, I was in the penitentiary. I didn't know what the hell of USB and the iPad and flip phone. I didn't know none of that. When I went in, we had the big GI Joe phones that got a battery pack that hang over your side. And the battery pack was really a motorcycle battery. You know, that's the phones I left behind. I didn't want none of that in me because of my status. If I would have had a cell phone and anything happened,
Starting point is 00:08:05 they would have said that, you know, I tried to order it. I tried to sell 100 keys. I tried to this. And I couldn't fight it because what would I be doing with a cell phone? They can't believe that it would just be to call my, you know, my children and my family, you know. So that's why I didn't want none of that because I always was focused on getting out here. Yeah. So, Unique, you have this incredible story.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Our listeners want to hear about it. They want to hear why you got to prison, what your incredible story is. And then you have all these insane prison stories that you're building on your YouTube channel. Make sure you let us know what that channel is and what people can expect to. Yeah, unique maker audio at YouTube and, you know, Instagram. But, yeah, I do a lot of stories dealing with the prison
Starting point is 00:08:45 because there's so many people covering, you know, the streets, prison. And that's what my challenge's about. I talk about the streets, prison. I even give my perspective on entertainment news, you know, like the Cardi B offset, that the ditty with Cassie, you know, Kanye. I gave my breakdown of it because I give the real breakdown of it.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Not the social media, never left the porch, but got an opinion about something that you're not into, you know, because when you start getting money like these rappers is getting, that's the type of money we was getting then, not there, but like, you know, we was getting that money, meaning everybody. So we entered into these things and had these scenarios that is playing out now,
Starting point is 00:09:29 because everything stays in the universe and what we call a cipher, which is a 360-degree circle. So nothing comes out. It just winds up hitting different people within the cipher at different times. It might be 100 years later. When you catch a cold,
Starting point is 00:09:42 somebody else is going to catch a cold. You know, they might catch it later. Go ahead. That was a great analogy. You know? No, I was listening. You've been sending me some of your clips and you have some great takes
Starting point is 00:09:52 that I think the audience would love to hear your perspective on by checking out your YouTube channel too. And now you're getting on TikTok. So they're going to be seeing you. I got some competition. See, that's what I'm saying. I'm glad you said that so you understand. Because that's what I call the YouTube rat bastards and flip-flop winning in public trolls.
Starting point is 00:10:11 It's never competition. It's just stepping your game up. You understand I'm saying? And you got 200-something thousand subscribers. So you invite me on you share those subscribers with me. I got a little 70,000. You know, I want to get to 100,000. I reach out to you, Johnny Mitchell,
Starting point is 00:10:27 Chad Marks, you know what I mean? My man, Eon from D.C. Blacks, you know, what is Ziki Black? You know, I got Bootsie from Street Knowledge. So I opened my door and my platform to help my brothers get big because if they get bigger than me, then I could go to them for a favor. I don't want to be the only one on the top. Just like hustling back in the days when we was on the street.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I don't want to be the only one selling 20 keys a day. You know, I want to help you to be able to sell 40 keys a day. That way, if I need 20 keys, I can say, yo, I'm short today. Let me get 20 keys. I don't want to be when I need something. There's nobody to turn to because I'm busy trying to, you know, be in competition with everybody to be above this. Nah, ain't none of that.
Starting point is 00:11:09 I'm comfortable and satisfied with what I have, and I want everybody to eat off of my plate because the plate is big enough. When they come to YouTube, they don't just come to Locked in with Ian Bick. They don't just go to, you know, Johnny Mitchell. They don't just go to D.C. Black. They don't just go to Street Knowledge Podcast, you know? They watch that and then they find something else to watch and then they find something else to watch like Netflix.
Starting point is 00:11:32 So people get it confused on YouTube to think that they need to be in competition when it's not about competition. You know what I mean? It's about working together because it's enough money for everybody. So if I'm going to think that I want to be the only one selling 20 keys in my neighborhood, you know, 20 keys is nothing. You know, so there's enough room for everybody.
Starting point is 00:11:56 to sell 20 keys. It's like there's enough room for everybody to get 100,000 views and subscribers. And that's how I look at it. So it's never competition. That's why I look out for people. I bring them on my show. And I shout out other people platforms
Starting point is 00:12:09 that you just see. I did because that's what it's about. When I eat, you eat. You know what I mean? And, you know, I'm even giving you something because we ride, you know? So you understand. You know, that's what I do at Unique Maker Audio.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I ride, man. So when I change topics, it's called riding. That's like when I was riding up here, you know, I might listen to one radio station and get bored with that, put it on another radio station. Might listen to this USB, take it out and put in another one. That's called Rod. So now, you know, it's like when a person has beef, you understand?
Starting point is 00:12:39 Whether they're on the street or they're civilian, YouTube or whoever, when they got beef, they run to their comrades. I got beef, I got beef. You know what I mean? And now their comrade go bring out their guns, they nods, they fists, whatever they choose to fight with, you know what I mean? Or make a YouTube video to support them. But then now here they go, they winds up getting 100,000 subscribers,
Starting point is 00:13:00 and now they're getting 100,000 views a day and they're making all this money. And then they don't go tell their comrades, yo, come get on my platform. I got 100,000 views and subscribers. You know what I mean? But they'll say, hey, I got a beef. Come help me with the beef.
Starting point is 00:13:14 So the whole thing is you don't just want somebody to help you when you have a problem. You're supposed to be there for them when you have an abundance as well. That's what we call in the whole. from Harlem breaking bread. You know, we break bread. I love that. And that's something I've learned as I got older because I'm a lot younger than you.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And I realize it's not always about cashing in on a favor in the moment or getting an exchange. Like so many people are like, oh, I need like this money right now for this. There could be something, no, I got you, here you go. And then if the time arises where you could do something for me, I'll reach out. And if you don't help me, then you kind of show that person's true colors. Exactly. And that's why you never give nobody nothing that you can't stand to lose. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:57 In other words, I'm not going to lend you $100 or $1,000 or $100,000 if I can't stand to lose it. That way I don't be in a position to have to make that money what we call in the street the principle of the thing. Do you know what the principle is? Do you know what the word principle mean when we use that on the street? What's your definition? My definition of principle? Yes. I mean, I guess your word, right?
Starting point is 00:14:18 Like what you're standing by, what your morals are, what you believe in as a man? Exactly. But when you say principal, you're 100% right, but I'm going to give them an analogy of when I say principal. Principal is, you know, you got all this going on with the YouTube. You know what I mean? And then somebody owes you $10 because they borrowed $10 to go to McDonald's and say they're going to give it back to you.
Starting point is 00:14:41 And then now you go ask them for your money. He say, man, school you. You got a YouTube channel. You don't need that $10. Be like, nah, you gave me your word. You don't give me my money back. And I want my money back. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:50 And then now you're getting the fight. You wind up shooting them, kill them, stab, or whatever. But now you're in jail. And then you're going to say, you know, to my accident. Yo, why did you do it? You got the YouTube and everything going on. Man, it was the principal of the thing. He tried to diss me.
Starting point is 00:15:03 So many people lost their lives for the principal. Yeah. You know what I mean? So do you believe in the principal then? Or are you against the principal now that you're older? No, not. Because I'm sure the young unique thought of it differently. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Because the young unique was coming up, making a stance, and I dealt with a lot of things from ignorance and being blinded. You know what I mean? And your morals, your principles, your words, your honor, your respect. You die for that. You know what I mean? When you're on the street, you die for that. Because if you show any weakness towards any one of that, then you're going to have a problem.
Starting point is 00:15:33 You understand? Because now you're going to have the wolves coming out and they're going to smell blood. You know what I mean? Just like, you know, just like you bring a stripper into a visiting hall and the nigger smell pussy. You understand? I'm saying? So if a nigger weak and, you know, he letting people take from them and say, man, I ain't worrying about that. It's only $10.
Starting point is 00:15:53 another person is going to look back and say, man, that nigger's soft, that nigger pussy. You know what I mean? I smell pussy. I'm going to get that nigger. And then now you got to deal with more problems than that. You know what I mean? And that's how people,
Starting point is 00:16:05 what we call self-created drama, you know? Self-created drama is dealing with bammers, you know, with suckers, you know, that don't honor and respect the code. Because, see, my thing is, it ain't about, it ain't about where you from, it ain't about what color you all. Like, we was talking about John Gotti out there.
Starting point is 00:16:23 with the hockey young men. Adrian Galante. Yeah, you know, good dude. I just met him, you know, and thank you. But we just talked about John Gardi. See, John Gotti is respected because, you know, he didn't see color. You two yell, he's racist, he's racist.
Starting point is 00:16:37 No, he's not racist. He's proud to be an Italian. You know what I mean? Like, we're proud to be black. We're proud to be from Harlem. We're proud to be from Chicago. You know, they're proud to be, you know, from El Salvador, you know.
Starting point is 00:16:50 It's just pride, you know, and that's where it's that. but people confuse pride with racism. You know what I mean? But everybody's supposed to feel that they're better than the next, but know that we all equal and capable of accomplishing the same thing. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:07 You know, so, you know, that's where I'm at with it, man. I'm not with none of that. It's just all out of respect, man. So I keep my circle small and, you know, know who I deal with. And if somebody violates something in that circle, you know, I just push back from them. So I don't have to kill them. You know, so I don't have to do nothing on the principle of the thing.
Starting point is 00:17:26 So I know how to eliminate putting myself in a situation to have to defend the principle. Because sometimes you still have to defend the principle. Because if a dude take you for soft and, you know, that's going to lead to him trying you or your family or your loved ones. Then you have to deal with it. And that's why on the streets, we know to check things as they happen. Not after they happen. You know, like you get in an argument. If somebody do something to disrespect you and you keep it in,
Starting point is 00:17:52 even if it's your best friend, and you keep it in and you wait two, three days a week later, and then you bring it up to him. Now, he don't know what he did. You know what I mean? And then when he do it again, now in your mind, he disrespected you. But you never told him a week ago,
Starting point is 00:18:05 two days ago, three days ago, that that was a disrespect. You know what I mean? So if you don't check them, so in the street, somebody do something, you check them right there. Hold on, Slim, we don't do that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:15 No, you know, you violate now. Don't tell me three days later that I said something you didn't like because we from different jigg. graphical locations. Look, we just downstairs in the deli here where you was at. The dude, I told him I wanted a meatball sandwich. The dude said a grinder. So I'm thinking that, damn, when he's selling dope upstairs? You know what I mean? We're trying to do to cut up some dope or something? You know, but then he just told me that a grinder is a sandwich. You understand? But then now, let's say this in my neighborhood and somebody asks me if I want a grinder, I'm going to be
Starting point is 00:18:44 ready to go in his mouth. Because now you're inviting me to go back to drugs to risk losing my freedom again. So those are fighting words. Somebody offered you, cocaine, Heron, you understand what I'm saying? You know, anything of that manner that you know could land you back, you know, where you're not trying to go. Now that's a total disrespect. You know what I mean? But I know where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:19:05 So I asked you, what did he mean by grinder? Because I'm thinking, man, you know, I want to be. You know, like he's, yeah, like he's thinking, yeah, I pulled him to the side and asked him, yo, what's up with this? Because dude, I'm talking about, you know, I said, give me a meatball siren. And, you know what I mean? He talked about, oh, you want to grind? So I'm thinking that he's thinking that I'm the connect.
Starting point is 00:19:24 And I don't brought the dope up here. We get ready to go upstairs and cut up some dope and use the grinder or something. But that's where my mentality is that because I don't have been around so much. But I know that I can't put, you know, my mentality, my understanding into everyone else. Because that's why different geographical locations. And that's why the Bible and the Torah and the Quran is translated. You know what I mean? So it could be understanding in different languages.
Starting point is 00:19:50 But it's still the same word. You know? Now, the way you just broke this all down for me, right? If someone had done that for you when you were a kid, do you think your life would have been different, like it would have turned out differently? If someone had done what? Broken this down on the acting on principle and the triggers.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Oh, yeah, most definite. Because, you know, when I was growing up, if somebody came and I gave me a, we used to sell $3 bags of weed, you know what I mean? You know, I'm talking about when I was like 10, 11 years old. We said $3 bag of weed and, you know, dollar joint. So if somebody come and they say, man, let me get a $3 bag until Friday when I get paid, you know? Now, he can give it to him and then Friday, he don't come to you no more,
Starting point is 00:20:32 but then you want another block that they sell $3 bags of weed and you see him over there cop and but he owes you $3. Now I'm going to bust him in his head because he's trying to play me. He doesn't owe me $3. Now he don't want to come pay me so he don't come back on my block, but he's bringing the money over there so he could get him comfortable enough to give him a $5 bag on credit. You understand what I'm saying? So he can run off with his. and then go to the next block. Then you got creeps that do that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:20:55 And yeah, and I was told from back then, if a dude owe you a dollar, you take it from him and you take it hard and you make sure he know what it is. Wow. Where'd you grow up? What was like your family like, your childhood? My child, yeah, I was born in Jamaica and Kingston
Starting point is 00:21:10 and came up in 1972 when I was seven, going on eight. You know, I came up January 15, 1972. I was born in 1964. So I was seven and then. a half. My birthday was in six months when I came up here. You know, my family first went to New Jersey, but that's because, you know, my mother was in a car accident and had a little money, and then she saved up some money and they bought a house in Jersey, so I wound up there. But all my family
Starting point is 00:21:35 and friends from Jamaica that came up to the States was in Brooklyn, Miami, you know, so, you know, the Bronx. So, you know, I used to go over there on the weekends just to spend time with my family and friends. But when I go over there, the ones that was of age was hustling. You know, they were selling weed, you know, if they were rosters, and that's where I learned from really selling the weed. And then by the time 78, 79 came in, you know, that's when the powder cocaine started getting big and they were selling heroin and the cocaine with the speedball mixing it in.
Starting point is 00:22:10 So I learned how to sell the weed before I was 14, learned how to cut up heroin. That's why when I hit grind it stick in my head. You know what I mean? We're going to grind the dope up, you know? So, you know, I was raised in the burrows and down in Miami because my cousins, you know, C.P. Cox from trunk, funk, cock, C.P. down there doing this thing. You know, this is my blood cousins, my mother's sisters, brothers, I mean, sons. So I used to go down in Miami.
Starting point is 00:22:36 That's how I learned about the Miami bass music. That's how I learned about Luke Skywalker. That's how I learned about the 808, you know. And I learned a whole other world from being in Miami. And then when I started getting money, because I'm riding right now. I'm riding. You know, so you asked about childhood, but it slipped over that my childhood started down there in Miami. And from going down there, knowing my way around and going to the Pack Jam, people in Miami know what it is.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I just gave Miami a big shout out. Pack Jam, strawberries, Rolex before it was a strip club, you know what I mean? And Big Daddy's, you know, these are all spots back in the 80s, you know, early 80s. It's before the crack. And because when Rolex now is a big strip club, back then it was just a disco. That's what they called it. They didn't even just call it club. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:22 Because they didn't have no rap music out like that or nothing. Because remember, I was there from like 77, you know, when, you know, they first played Rapper's Delight. I grew up in Jersey with Leland Robinson, you know, and, you know, Sylvia Robinson and all them. So I learned about music from being around them. And when I went to Miami and I saw how, like in 88, they still playing the rapper's delight and Big Daddy Kane, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:48 you know, stuff that was older. You understand what I'm saying? Scott LaRock. You know what I'm saying? They're playing old songs down there. Good times, you know, chic. They're playing all these old stuff down there because Miami, and there's no disrespect to them.
Starting point is 00:24:01 It's just the facts. By the time the music got from New York to Miami might be five, eight years later before it get there, just like by the time the music, and people don't even think about it. That's why I open their mind up. That's why they don't understand how powerful these phones are, you know, that I came home and was blessed
Starting point is 00:24:16 to be able to see and experience as a free man, when you over in like Germany, you know, England, when you over in Japan, China, you know, even Russia, they don't get American music until decades later. So these rappers forever make money. Even they're not playing these old rappers, you know, brand new being big shout out to them, you know, Sadat, Drez, Alamo, the whole crew, Lord Jamal, you know, even though they're not playing them up here in America, in these other countries they're playing them. and they could actually book a concert 40 years later,
Starting point is 00:24:51 and they're just as big in those countries as they was in America 40 years ago because it took time for it to get from day to day. To what people don't understand is, they're blessed to have this social media. They wouldn't be nothing without this phone and social media. Because you've got to remember, I made my name, my comrade, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:10 Lou Sims from the Lynch mob, and, you know what I mean, and Peter Shoe and Kevin Chiles. We made our name without, social media. You understand what I'm saying? We made it from word of mouth. We set the trend for the fashion we wear, the slang we use, the cars we drive. Look at like you mentioned about, you know, Canaan. You understand what I'm saying? They went all the way back to grab my character from back then to put them in the movie, just like they're going to grab my comrades' characters and
Starting point is 00:25:37 put them in the movies. That's what they do. You know what I mean? So, but they don't want to pay us, you know, so they figured that, you know, they just make it close as they can to it and just try and get over, but you know, that's what it is, man. Do you think music inspired your pathway? Most definitely. Because I grew up in Jamaica when they had dub plates, you know, when rap wasn't even in America, but in Jamaica you had Brigadid Jerry,
Starting point is 00:26:02 a yellow man, eke mouse. You know what I mean? These was our first rappers back then. Bob Marley even was rapping. You understand when he was chanting, you know? So it started from down there. And that's why the pioneers are hip-hop right now. The pioneers right now, cool, you know what I mean, that they give it to and, you know, Grandmaster Flash and Theodore,
Starting point is 00:26:22 they are Jamaican. They are Jamaican. All the pioneers, look them up. You know what I mean? They are Jamaicans. And they learned it from the Jamaicans using two records in a turntable and making the dub plates with the chance. And, you know, they got that from Jamaica.
Starting point is 00:26:39 You understand? Because that's what we grew up as. Where in Jamaica, it was already doing the block parties and, you know, playing the music outside. Then in New York, over there on Cedar Ave, they started opening up the bottom of the light pole and, you know, hooking the power up to it to bring the speakers and stuff out. And in Jamaica, like, who had the biggest sound system? Who had the biggest speakers? You know, like when I went to Jamaica, like 91, the, this day, I think it was Act 2.
Starting point is 00:27:09 You know, they had, the music was so powerful. You know, the bass that you look and on the ground, you'll see the red clay from the ground. ground would look like smoke in the sky all the way up to your knee from the base rumbling it and it's so hot down there and it's dry so the dust you be up by the time you leave there you're wearing short your whole leg dirty you got to go home and wash your leg you know but yeah most definitely that influenced my life to answer your question because like I said I'm right dog I'm giving you a blessing I'm right you know what I mean but you know yeah definitely influenced my life because I was there you know at the ecstasy garage the T connection the stardust ballroom
Starting point is 00:27:46 authors round table, Harlem World Celebrity Club. These are all spots in the 70s that I'm naming in the 70s. When I was a kid, you know, just like, you know, they just had, what was that, like, Studio 54, Plato's Retreat. That's what they had. It was like big discos back then. And then these are the spots that we had for us in the hood. Savoy Manor, you know, in the Bronx and Harlem.
Starting point is 00:28:10 And, you know what I mean? And then, you know, what's the joint over there, Queen? The Q Club was jumping. and, you know, things like that. But yes, music definitely influenced my life. Because it saved a lot of people's lives. Because they say music calmed the savage beast. So plenty of times I was ready to go to war
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Starting point is 00:30:07 Like what led from the music translating into the life you chose is what I'm curious about. It was never about the money. The music was because it was in my soul. Okay. You know what I mean? It was in my soul. So it wasn't about the money, you know, with music because there was no money in music. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:23 Back then, the rappers wasn't even getting paid. They ain't getting paid nothing now. They're becoming millionaires, but look what the companies is getting over them. The company's not even giving them no health insurance. They still, the companies still get money from a rapper from 50, from 40 years ago. You know what I mean? From, you know, from in the 80s to 70, they still making money for me. these artists. You know what I mean? Some of these artists been on their labels for that long,
Starting point is 00:30:46 but they don't get no pension from them. You understand? So they just use them for their money, and then everything goes. So they ain't got to pay no pension. They ain't got to pay no nothing. They just take the money from them and they eat off them forever. And then when they get of age, if they don't make another record, now they got to go get a job at the local subways or the diner downstairs. You know what I mean? So it's not like what it is now where it looks like they're making all of this money, that wasn't it for you back then? No, but the money that, if I want you to understand, the money that they're making now that is a lot of money to us,
Starting point is 00:31:19 is nothing compared to what they're pulling in themselves. They're giving them not even crumbs off the table. You know what I mean? When they pay these rappers with 20 big chains on and the rings, they got $100 million when the company don't make billions. You understand what I'm saying? But they don't think of that. All they do is look at the facade.
Starting point is 00:31:39 That, you know, it's like when I was a kid, my older brother is to say, man, I got to put you in a store because you don't want to sit in an apartment. I used to work behind a door where we had steel and the ceiling to cut out and they ring the doorbell. You drop the cylinder on the rubber band and you push the weed through the door and they push the money back and you hidden behind the door, you know. But I would want to put on my chains and get dressed up and, you know, going front to build them. My brother's like, man, don't go down there. Them Americans going to try and rob you. Man, I got my 9mm. I ain't worrying about nothing.
Starting point is 00:32:09 And he's like, man, okay, so you like the limelight. We got to get you a store with a bulletproof glass so you could just sit in the store behind this bulletproof glass, sell my weed all day and just be the monkey in the window. You know what I mean? That's how I was telling me to disrespect me so he understand that me wanting to be in the limelight wasn't where to be. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:29 So I said, I get you a store, so he went and got a store and I sat behind the window just like this and all the Americans came in. I got my chains, my jewels, my watch on. I'm doing me. And they're coming in buying the weed and I'm sitting in. and I'm handing them over all the money, and I'm getting $200, $300 a week. So you realize you didn't want to be that guy
Starting point is 00:32:45 that was just the broken off one to get in the crumbs? Yeah, that monkey in the mirror. You wanted the whole crumb cake? I wanted the whole crumb cake, you know what I mean? So that's what it was for you. That's what it was, because I watched how the people that I was working for and I'm loyal to, I'm giving them their money, you know, because it's theirs.
Starting point is 00:33:02 You understand? But at the same time, I'm not getting nothing. But what they was giving me at that time was a lot. But it really wasn't nothing. But I didn't know that it wasn't nothing. It was a lot then. But as time went on and I started really learning the bill, I'm like, damn, I just decided he had cut up 10 pounds of weed.
Starting point is 00:33:21 You know what I mean? I bought it $8,000 a night. You understand? To give to this man, you know? In five days, I gave him $40,000. And in five days, he gave me $200 out of that. but I was a kid $200 was a lot
Starting point is 00:33:40 I go buy me some adenna some some pomans some mock neck some you know what I mean some overlap pants and Calvin Klein I could go do me with 200 but I gave him 40,000 but things moving so fast and you're so lawyer
Starting point is 00:33:53 and you don't even pay attention to the too late you know what I mean so when I went to jail the first time I had time to sit back and think I said damn I gave him all this money where my brother to retire moved down to Texas the other dude moved down to Miami everybody moved out and I'm sitting in jail
Starting point is 00:34:05 and I'm going home to nothing and they got a whole family out there. You saw the bigger picture. Quick. So knowing what you know now and your way, you're well educated now compared to when you were back then, do you consider yourself an entrepreneur, like at heart? Do you think you were? I've always been, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:24 Because just like I came out of jail after 26 years, I didn't go running, knock at Walmart's or McDonald's or nowhere to ask for a job. I created my own lane, which is my YouTube channel, a unique maker audio. I created my own lane. That's being an entrepreneur. I don't have to go to nobody and say, I need a check every two weeks or every week to pay my bills. I know how to create money.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I know how to generate money. I know how to attract money. I'm attracting money for you right now doing this interview, just like we had that conversation so you understand. I know when you drop this video, however you drop it parts, whatever, when you put it up. It's like you said,
Starting point is 00:35:00 you got like two, three million views off the junk Johnny Mitchell did. I know you make money off of that. But I want you to make money off. that. All I want you to do is help me get money. Help get me out there. You understand I'm saying? And I'm cool with that conversation. You understand? I'm not going to tell you, oh, you paid $3 million, so that means you made $3 million, so you owe me $10. That's what suckers do. Whatever you make with your lane, that's yours. Help me get a lane. And that's what life is about. But everybody wants to watch the next man's pocket. If you figure out a way to get me
Starting point is 00:35:32 on your channel to get 3 million views and get 30,000, 10,000, 3,000, whatever you got off it because you know these rat bastards and flip-flop wearing them public trolls, they're going say, oh, he said he made this amount off it, but YouTube only pay you this, and then they try and deviate from the Jews that I'm giving you. So that's why I can't stand a rat bastard. You know what I mean? Because all they do is, you know, they look for any little thing to try and nitpick at to take you away from the main. Zule that's there. So if we're arguing over, you know, we go back and forth, or the two viewers, they say sitting in their living room,
Starting point is 00:36:09 and they say, oh, he just said that. He made $30,000 off a $3 million clip. He don't make that. But then now you don't miss the whole entrepreneurial conversation. And that's what trolls and flip-flop wearing in public rat bastards do. That's why they wear the flip-flops in public because they're just moving through life like a zombie, like a walking dead. Because how could you defend yourself or even get out the way? of a car that might just, you know, try to go around some garbage while you're crossing the
Starting point is 00:36:38 street and you're in the middle and somebody tried to go around the garbage and now that car's coming towards you. Total accident. Don't mean that nobody's shooting or nothing. And then now they try and pivot to get out the way they got their flip-flop. They fall down, you know what I mean, twist their ankle and now the car run over them. You know, or somebody just starts shooting, because we know there's a lot of shooting going on. Somebody starts shooting and here's a grown man walking with his woman with flip-flops on. That's the most. disrespectful thing you could ever do to your woman is be out there flip-flops when you're supposed to be out there making money to bring home to your woman and make and out there take a care of your woman
Starting point is 00:37:13 and protecting your woman while you're out in public but yet you're with your woman wearing flip-flops you can't defend yourself you can't defend your woman you know so what is your purpose you know i mean you just like a zombie man you know just get out the way you know what i mean you know the first clip i ever saw of you earlier this year when I started YouTube was your rant about the flip flops. Yeah, because I hate them. Yeah, why do you not like flip flops? So you don't even wear them the beach, right? Like nothing. What is that? Because I'm always, I'm always ready to protect myself. And my father and my mother both told me, once you walk out that door, make sure you have all the tools to survive. If you're going out there to work to go get a job or whatever, go get your education,
Starting point is 00:37:58 go get your books, go get your pencils. If you're going out there to hustle, go get your pistol, go get your bullets. You know what I mean? Where you can protect yourself. You understand? Now, how are you going to protect yourself with flip-flops? I mean, for real. And they say, you know, oh, you've been gone 30 years.
Starting point is 00:38:16 You know, I mean, it ain't violent out there no more. Look at the news. Look at TikTok. I watch the TikTok coming out here where a dude pulled out a big AR-15 out of the car and another dude got a handgun. And the two of them is running around the car. when they both had a chance to walk away, the two of them is running around one car
Starting point is 00:38:33 like you play in telling you try to catch somebody running on the car, but they're firing bullets. One guy, A.R. 15. What possessed this dude with the handgun to stay when the dude went in the car to get the gun? Bus your gun at him. You hit him, you hit him. If you miss, you get the hell out of Dodge
Starting point is 00:38:50 because you know he got way more bullets than your little handgun. So you got to not away your opposite, but you can't defend yourself in flip swaps, man. You can't do it. You know that. You see dudes get body slammed all on YouTube and TikTok wearing flip flops. So while we're on this topic of flip flops,
Starting point is 00:39:06 can you can compare that to the penitentiary with the flip flops and the showers and the boots? Because me as a little white kid going to prison, you know me. I was marching my white ass down to flip flops. No, no, no. We don't do none of that. Listen, man, when you're in the prison, right, the same thing as on the street. And if I pay by, I say, oh, you Nick, you're not in jail no more. Yo, listen, I'm going to get your whole other analogy because I fucks with you.
Starting point is 00:39:27 you, right? This world is a prison. You understand? You got people like, you live up here in Danbury. You're in a prison in Danbury. You got a routine. You get up every morning. You wash your face, brush your teeth, get your food, and you come down here to the studio. You get on your computer. You get on your phone and you conduct your business. You do what you got to do. And then you go home, your woman cook you meal or you make your meal and you watch your little YouTube or your Netflix, whatever you want to watch. And then you go to sleep and wake up to do it again. But you're not going nowhere further than from your house to here and wherever you go to get the food you need and the nutrients that you need for what. And that's it. So you put yourself in a self-made prison. It's just there's no bars there, no physical bars.
Starting point is 00:40:11 But I see the bars in my mind when I'm just leaving from 155th Street to 110 Street to stay in the box of Harlem. I'm in a prison in Harlem. There's so many people in the prison in the Bronx in Brooklyn, in Japan, wherever, because they find a routine to go from point A to point B to make money and then back to point C to go lay down and get up to do it all over again. That's a prison. But that's self-incoreration. Then they have physical incarceration. Physical incarceration is when, you know, you're a black man making money in America.
Starting point is 00:40:50 This was back in the 80s, you know, I'm going to speak about now. But back in the 80s, you got a black man making money. and here it is. I walk in a dealer and I see a Mercedes and I say, yo, let me use the phone, you know?
Starting point is 00:41:02 And they'd be like, nah, yo, here go, G, let me use the phone. I'll call my brother, y'all. I feel like driving two Mercedes this weekend.
Starting point is 00:41:06 What color you want? You know what I mean? And I'm going to grab two shoebox and buy two Mercedes. You understand? And didn't have to pay tax on it. Didn't have to pay tax on the money. So the government is like,
Starting point is 00:41:19 whoa, we're not getting none out of that. So we need to get them off the street because they're not trying to pay. because they're not trying to pay their dues. But once you pay your taxes, they had no problem with how much drugs you sell until a murder occurs.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Now when you're talking about taking a civilian's life or even another drug dealer's life or you can miss the drug dealer and hit an innocent child, adult or whatever, on the street. You understand? So they said, now we got to get him off the street because now he's bringing violence in it. But if you was paying your taxes back then,
Starting point is 00:41:50 you know, you ain't had to worry about no feds coming in until violence come. And everybody watching this, and I'm going to say everybody that's from that era that know what time it was, they know how they went down. We didn't go down until violence came around us,
Starting point is 00:42:03 you know, but the flip-flops in prison, because I don't forget none, because that's how I ride. I'm just riding for you today. I like that. You know what I'm saying. Just let me ride, man. I just put a different tape in.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I'm giving you your space, man. I know you all. I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to the viewers. You are excellent because you let me ride. That's why you get the classic interview. You know, people call you on their thing. interviewing and they want to show they know how much of you and they know what you
Starting point is 00:42:24 say to sit back and enjoy the ride I love this I'm a joy I should have had a beer for myself man so you know so the flip-fops in prison go like this a dude goes and he's wearing his flip-flops he's going in the shower now when he go to the shower he got his flip-flops on he come out to shower and his home boy is in a fight you understand I'm saying and then now somebody see him they run up on him when they run up on him they run and put that knife in him And he got on flip-flops sliding all over the place. Got to get out the flip-flops and try and fight, you know, with flip-slops on. Oh, you got to do step on his toes and stab him in his face.
Starting point is 00:43:02 You know? So if you can't defend yourself from flip-flops, then you definitely can't be on the compound around me and no flip-flops. Because we need to defend each other because it's us against them. What if the Serenos move on? What if the G-Ds move on? What if the bloods move on? The crips move on. And you're sitting there with flip-flops on.
Starting point is 00:43:20 how are you going to get balance and stability on the floor of the fight? When we go to the shower, even we go to the shower, we put our flip-flops in a little gin bag with our, you know, cosmetics and everything else. And then we put our boots on. And when we get in the shower, then we take the boots off and put the flip-fops on in the shower, and we got two homies standing outside and cell holding it down.
Starting point is 00:43:43 So if something happened, they can bang on the door, you know, to hurry up and put your damn boots on and bring your ass down there. We're going to hold the door until you get it. your boots on. You can't tell them I ain't got my boots, dog. You know what I mean? Or you come run out the shower and flip-flops and you sliding all over the place getting crushed and getting them crushed where if you would have had your boots on and would have been suited and booted and ready for war. Because life is a war. Whether you're in prison or you're on the
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Starting point is 00:44:38 that's not being on point. You understand? They say, oh, I'm out here. The police going to protect me. The police didn't protect the dude when they were shooting the AR-15, chasing Duteron. The thing with a handgun and the straight bullets
Starting point is 00:44:49 going everywhere. while they're shooting big bullets right here in St. Louis is where it was at. You know what I'm saying? So don't sit there and tell me, oh, you nick, you bugging, you've been locked up long time. It ain't like that no more. No, they still got killers. They still got lunatics. You still got mental illness in society, in any society.
Starting point is 00:45:05 So you've got to know that at one time God might allow, you know, the devil to allow one of his minions to cross your path. And you have to be able to defend yourself and protect yourself and the loved ones that you win. You see on the news every day All day But they'll quick to tell me When I first came home Oh you're paranoid I'm sitting in the car
Starting point is 00:45:25 Parked at the corner And I'm talking A young lady in the car And a dude Is walking across the street But he's walking right towards me He got a full mask on So now I'm reaching
Starting point is 00:45:37 Is he like Yo, what are you doing? I'm like yo you don't see that dude Man he's just crossing the street No And what would stop If I'm putting the gun in my face Oh it ain't like that
Starting point is 00:45:45 No more you bugging it's safe Nah You know what I mean You keep believing that. And here it is three years later, now she don't went out and got caught up carjack, da-da-da-da-da-da. So now she's see what I'm saying. And it's no longer that I'm, you know, bugging. But go ahead. So how does a young kid like yourself go from the guy that was getting the crumbs to going, getting sentenced to, you know, life in prison under kingpin
Starting point is 00:46:11 charges? How does that happen? Because it's like, I went to jail and from 85 to 87, came out of 87 and you know, went to Harlem and I started doing my own thing at this time, my brother and all my comrades that raised me, because they older than me. I said, I was, you know, 11, 12, 13. I was a kid. All of them now, they don't got caught up by the feds, got deported, got, you know, doing life in jail. I know a dude that's locked up now for decapitation. I know three dudes locked up for decapitation and not for the same head. You understand what I'm saying? But this is the error that I come out of. So it was like, you know, the people that I looked up to that I was loyal to and soldiers for, you know, now they all go on and now I had to do my own thing. And I didn't even realize that they were preparing me for that moment without them even known they prepared me for that moment.
Starting point is 00:47:02 So it's saying when I told you, I used to bag up 10 pounds of weed, you know what I mean? And, you know, back up eight pounds and, you know, give them 5,000 off for each pound. They don't got 40,000. But I know how to bag it up. I know how to do everything. I'm running the house. I'm doing this, but I'm getting $200 a week. You understand?
Starting point is 00:47:19 But then now when I came out of 87, the ones that I was loyal to that was using me, not there long no longer here, but I don't look at it like they were using me because the game is to be sold not too. You understand? So they were selling me the game. So I was working and I was getting compensated the game.
Starting point is 00:47:36 The knowledge of the game, the knowledge of the entrepreneurship is what I got for working in those herb gates. So when my turn came, when they was no longer, now it's all different now. Now I got to go bag up the weed, cut up the weed, but I'm getting the 40,000.
Starting point is 00:47:52 You understand what I'm saying? And then it went over the Coke and, you know, when the crack hit, it was like ridiculous because, you know, it was at least one in every household that got high back then. That's how bad it was with crap. At least one in every household was getting high.
Starting point is 00:48:13 You understand? So we end up building, Like where I'm from, let's call the Polo Grounds. You know what I mean? Let's call Lincoln Project. It's, you know, a grand project, you know, Harlem. When we're talking about these places, we're talking about apartment buildings. Like the Polo Grounds got 30 floors and it got four buildings.
Starting point is 00:48:30 You know what I mean? And it got like 3,500 families, 2,500 families in there. You know? And one out of everyone is getting high. And majority of them, most of them was getting high. and then here they go coming down the stairs to spend their money. So you could go on any block to make money. Grant projects, 25th Street, 14th Street,
Starting point is 00:48:52 the Bronx over on Basket, on Valentine, wherever you go. But it's different drugs of choice wherever you go. So, you know, once I seen what was going on and I came home, I went up to here. The first thing I spent when I came home, I came home with $366. I put $100 on a two-finger name ring to go on these two fingers.
Starting point is 00:49:09 And then I went downtown and I bought a pair of Patrick Humeans, golden white with a golden white uh sweatshirt and a farmer suit you know what i mean and a farmer hat all that for a hundred dollars you know what i mean so now i got a hundred sixty six dollars left i went up town to back up to washington heights where i got shot up where i was robin uh you know the dominicans and all that and they scared of death they thinking i'm coming up there to rob them but i'm like now i'm doing it different this time i just want what my money buy i got a hundred dollars you know what i mean one dude tried to give me a whole ounce for the hundred dollars i had to tell Nah, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:49:42 I don't need no handout. I want to do it the right way. I don't want you scared when I come back. You hide and saying you ain't got nothing no more. You know, so, you know, I want them getting a little three and a half grams and I took it down to, you know, to New Jersey. I put, you know, because the book is based on, you know, my life story. So I didn't want to put certain things exactly where it was at to change the location. But it was Jersey.
Starting point is 00:50:06 I went out to Jersey. Took that $100 worth of drugs. And from that $100 worth of drugs, I made $11. that night. In like five hours, I made $11,100 or for $100. You know, now it's like, whoa, you wasn't making it like that with weed. You see what I'm saying? So I had to go back uptown, take that, and I bought a whole ounce, you know, a half-ounce now. So I get a half-ounce and I go back down there. So now I got $4,000 in less than $12 in less than $12,000. And I'm sitting with $4,000 in my hands.
Starting point is 00:50:37 And all I had was $200, $366.6. And now I got $4,000 for $100 in less than $12 in less than $12. Just as fast as it took me to go from Jersey back to New York to go cop. You know, so, you know, once I saw that then it was like, man, I don't even want no money out of it. I just took all the money, put it in, and bought more drugs and more drugs and more drugs until I had a key money. And then I had five key money. And then once I start buying the five keys, they were like, yo, you keep coming up here too much, man. You buy five, I'm going to give you five on credit
Starting point is 00:51:13 so to cut down the trips you keep coming up here. And then it was a wrap when they did that because now I got room to sell the keys whole. I can sell the five keys for 18,000 that I'm getting for 10,000. Make $8,000 on for each key. You understand what I'm saying? So now I just made $4,000 from this one sale.
Starting point is 00:51:30 You know, I had to sell all this weed to do. And this is one sale. And then at the same time, I'm still breaking down the five keys that I brought. and off of that, I didn't take nothing off those five keys that I sold that I got on consignment. I took the whole $18,000 from each one and brought it up there, and I gave dude his money. And I said, give me 10 more while I was still working with my five, you know, and I just kept doing that and pushing it. So I wasn't working for money.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I was working for Coke. I spoke about that on somebody else's platform. I don't want to give him a plug. You know what I mean? But I spoke about that, and people said, oh, how are you working for drugs? Man, that's backwards. No, it's not backwards. Because, see, every year they got what they call a drought in May, June, and in November and December.
Starting point is 00:52:18 That's when they do inventory. When they do that, all the drugs come off the street. Once it come off the street, you know, they're adding up all the money. And whatever drugs you have is the only thing being sold. So my game plan was I want to get all the drugs I can to hold on to. So when these droughts come for inventory in May and June and November and December, I want to be the one, the only one with the Coke. Because I've seen Coke that I got for 10,000 when it's a drought, go to 40,000
Starting point is 00:52:50 right in New York City. So my thing is like, man, next drought, I need to have my own 10, 20 keys. Instead of rushing to sell it to just make the money and spending the money and, you know, and the back and forth. So I sold the drugs, you know, and if I sold and I made $100,000 and $50,000 out of that was mine, I was taking a whole $100,000 and give it to them. I don't even want nothing. Just give me drugs. And as I sold that, I just gave them all the money to me and give me drugs.
Starting point is 00:53:19 And then I know in May and June and November and December, I know that I'm going to be the only one with these 40 keys that's going to over $40,000 that I got for $10. So I'm making $30,000 off of each key at $40,000 and $40 keys. You understand what I'm saying? And I've even seen it go up to 50,000 for a key. In New York, when it's a drought, it depends where they're coming from, how bad they wanted to keep their spot running. When the price go up, when you sell them,
Starting point is 00:53:44 when they jump from 10, from like 18, 20 in New York to 40, you know, people still got to run their spots. So that means now what they were selling for $50, you know what I mean, they might sell for $200 in order to make their money. And the Fiend's got to pay that extra price too during the inventory. So everybody makes their money. money you're going to
Starting point is 00:54:03 So the object is to accumulate the drugs. You don't want to have a store, just have the money in the bank from the store. You want the inventory, especially when you know the inventory's going to sell. You know the drugs is going to sell. Drugs is not going to get outdated like a pair of Jordans
Starting point is 00:54:18 or a pair of rembox. You know, we say, man, if I got a sneaker store, I don't want to just stack up on all sneakers because you got to wait for people to come in and want to buy it. But drugs are the type of thing that everybody's coming to buy. You look fascinated. Go ahead. Say something. No.
Starting point is 00:54:35 It's crazy how you, like, I'll have people that have gone to prison for many years for drugs. And they don't know their market and the understanding like you do. And maybe that's because you've spent more time in prison to think about it, but you understood your market. Man, there haven't enough for no more time to think about it. Prison, prison had nothing to do with it. That comes just from knowing business. You know what I mean? I couldn't read a right when I did all of this.
Starting point is 00:55:02 I didn't learn to read a right until I got the ADX super. You know what I mean? In 95, that's when I started learning the read and write. I didn't get my GED until 1998. You know what I mean? When I was 34 years old. So I was taught math. I learned my triple beam scale before I learned my ABCs.
Starting point is 00:55:23 I don't know what the triple beam scale is. What's the triple beam scale? Damn. I don't know what that is. I mean, maybe I do. You know what you say. A triple beam scale is the scale. that have the weight on the beam on this side, beam on that side,
Starting point is 00:55:38 and then in the middle is where whatever you put on it, it goes up and down and you weigh it from in the middle. So it's three beams, one, two, and one to the middle. That's a triple beam scale. You know what I mean? And those are the most complicated. So many people from my era still don't even out of weigh them. They used to come to Coke spots and go buy Coke for me.
Starting point is 00:55:55 And I'm talking about, you know, you go to some dudes and they'll put two lines over. So it's balanced at two lines over. You know what I mean? That's $20. And then they say they want 10 lines. So you put eight lines on the scale and it shows 10 lines because you got a balance from two lines in. So this was way we called people and didn't know how to read a triple beam scale.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Okay. You know what I mean? But, you know, you had to know how to read it to hustle or you'll get robbed like I just said. You understand? Just like the weed. We had dudes that were selling weed, right? One of the dudes I had to wet this dude up, you know, he played with me. I go buy some weed from him
Starting point is 00:56:35 and he puts it on a scale and it was a pound. I take it back to go bag it up. You know what I mean? This is my little nigga coming up. You know, I'm still selling weed. I go to go bag it up. And when I go to go bag it up
Starting point is 00:56:46 and I'm going to go cut the weed up, there's little wood chucks in it. You know the wood chucks you see around the garden in the house? Yeah. He put little wood chucks in it. So he took out like a ounce of weed and cut up little wood chucks
Starting point is 00:57:01 of an ounce to make. make it weigh the weed that he just took out. You understand what I'm saying? He thought you wouldn't notice? Yeah, because a lot of people would have just backed it up and put it in the bag and dudes would have wanted to smoke in the wood chucks and everything else. Or if they came from too far, they just took the wood chucks out, threw it out, and took the loss. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:57:20 But these was the games that was played on the street. People gambled with their lives. So I know what I'm going to do with a dude for putting wood chucks in my shit. And I know what I'm going to do with a dude that's going to set the triple beam scales. two or three lines over to only give me seven or eight lines for when I'm paying for 10 lines. So I don't play them games because I know what I'm going to do. And I expect the next man do the same thing. I'm going to do because like Biggie Small said, you know, we all bleed.
Starting point is 00:57:49 You know? You just love the art of business. You love the art of the deal. Like you loved that aspect of it. I feel like a lot of people misunderstand you in that way too just by like knowing your story and not understanding that part. Because my whole life is about business. It looks like, like I love the business of YouTube. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:58:09 And I sit down and I just got the vid IQ on the thing so I know how to put the tags in and the keyword generators. And I bet you there's so many people out there to have YouTube channels that don't even know what that is. You know what I mean? But I spend my money to buy that because this is technology, you know, and AI taking up. I got the AI app on my phone.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Chat, GPT. Yeah. It's great. Yeah. Look, when I got it, I could have got it for like maybe $4 or $5, you know, a month. Or they offered it for $79 for a lifetime. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:58:43 All my friends said, man, just get it for the $4. I said, no, why would I do that? But I could get it for a lifetime. In 20 years, I can still use it for that price when they start charging you guys $80 a month. You know what I mean? I'm going to own it for the 80 now. And it's like, man, you're always thinking in the future.
Starting point is 00:58:59 I said, what you want me to think about? The past? they're giving it to me for $79 for a lifetime or $4.99, $95 a month. That's a no brain in the business world. So I'm not worried about only spending $4.99 now, whereas instead of paying $79, I got the $79. Let me pay the $79 and I'm secure.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I never got to worry about it again. Any new updates they get, it's going to come on it, and I don't never have to worry about paying for the chat. And the chat is going to go up. Just like Elon Musk said, they got all this thing out there to pick the numbers now and how to do this. They don't even take it for serious because there's so much as Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:59:36 introduced us to fake news out there where they put fake propaganda to keep you blind and sleep. So they'll tell you that Eon Musk is crazy. There's nothing that could pick a lottery number. There's nothing that could pick the stocks for you. This is what the media would tell you to keep the poor people blind. But a real businessman,
Starting point is 00:59:57 he knows that the mind is capable of creating anything that you want. Everything comes from in your mind. Chat GPT, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Twitter came from within a man's mind. Remember that. So if it came from the mind, that means it could be built or destroyed within the mine. So they try and keep poor people being workers so they don't want them to get a chance to get the, you know, the AI, pick the stocks that, you know, E. I almost came up with this one and that one.
Starting point is 01:00:30 They tell them it's fake. and they don't know what to believe because they let the media tell them what to believe when you could go up there and just make up any story oh I see such and such having sex with a dog on 42nd Street you know what I mean and now you got 10 other people making videos that such as having a dog on something and nobody never seen it just one person put it out there
Starting point is 01:00:48 but they just run with it because they're too lazy to do their due diligence now do you think if if your brothers say had showed you another type of business that wasn't drugs you would have fell in love with that type of business too. And that's why to this day, and that's a great question. That's why to this day I don't even talk to my brother because he was my older brother. I was a baby. Instead of him pushing me towards school, he pushed me in a drug house and closed the door and gave me a bag of
Starting point is 01:01:15 weed and a nine millimeter. And to this day, I don't talk to him. I'm not mad at him because I'm proud of who I am now after going through those trials and tribulations. But I wouldn't do that to my worst enemy, what was done to me to make me into the man that I am. He took me the long way all the way around with all the violence, ducking, getting shot up, going to prison, 26 years in prison, dealing with going to sleep every day with life sentence on my back worrying about these people
Starting point is 01:01:43 expect me to die in order to get up out of here. All that to get where I'm at right now in the chair. When he could have just put me in the right direction because he was older so he knew better. And that's why my channel Unique Maker Audio, I try and teach the youth, you know, and let them see, you know, the bullcraft. that I went through.
Starting point is 01:02:02 You understand what I'm saying? So hopefully they make the right choice not to go through it. And that is very powerful what you just said because that's the problem right now. I think all these people that are, you know, even drug,
Starting point is 01:02:15 you see all these drug dealers that went to high school with me or that everyone knows someone that's dealing drugs. They are smart business, in a business way, to some degree, you know? Imagine if they put that work ethic into something legitimate. But that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:02:32 But instead, people tried to take the shortcut and they used other people to school up their lives to make their short-term, you know, cut valuable. But like you said, if he would have just told me to go to school with the mind that I have, I would have, I might have been a doctor right now. I might have cured cancer already. You understand? Because the cure, everything is within our mind. Like I said, everything is in that 360-degree cycle. The same way cancer was in that cycle. the cure for cancers in that cycle.
Starting point is 01:03:04 And I know they have it, but they only give it to the rich. You know what I mean? Because that helped to cure the population, especially now, which we ain't going to get in it. But, you know, they're dealing with this rovers way, you know, getting turned over with the abortion, you know? So they're saying, go have as many as the babies. No, you can't
Starting point is 01:03:22 kill the babies. Have the baby. Had the babies. So they have to have something to kill off the population. You understand? I'm saying? And that's where these different diseases come in, that they have cures for that they're saying they don't have cure. So they give it to the elite that's in a lane to be able to pay their taxes. You know what I mean? Create jobs on the plantations.
Starting point is 01:03:43 You know what I mean? Because Walmart is a plantation. CVS is a plantation, you know? Good thing. Let me do this. You got, you got when they was doing the tax thing. When Donald Trump came in and he was fighting to make the new tax law, you remember? First thing he did was change, you know, he made a new tax law where I think it was
Starting point is 01:04:02 like the corporations pay 20% and you know, you and me pay 33%. So for every dollar that we make, we got to give him $33. You know what I mean? And every dollar corporation make, they got to give them $20. And their justification in Washington for that was, you know, Donald Trump
Starting point is 01:04:18 because he's a brilliant man. He's brilliant. You can't take that away from him. You might not agree with what he does, but he's a brilliant businessman. I'm a businessman, so I study other businessmen. Donald Trump broke it down like this to sell it to the people. He said, look, all the companies and corporations are taking their jobs overseas.
Starting point is 01:04:34 So they're taking them overseas and across the border. So I'm going to bring the jobs back to make America great again. You understand? So he said, when I bring the jobs back, right, we're going to have to lower the taxes to make them want to bring the jobs back. And if we lower the taxes where they're saving more money, then they won't have to try and go outside the country to try and get the slave shop wages. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:04:59 because we cut the corporation's tax down to 20% on a dollar. Then they could take that extra 13, 20%, that they're saving by them only paying 20 and make more CVS, make more Walmart, make more shop right, you understand, to create more plantations, I mean jobs. You understand what I'm saying? You see, but nobody even court it. Now they cut the day taxes. They still got the judge overseas.
Starting point is 01:05:29 They didn't bring no more plantations. I mean, jobs or corporations over here. You understand what I'm saying? But yet, they only paying 20 cents on a dollar. When you busing your ass doing YouTube, giving them 33 cents a dollar, you know, off a thing. You see what I'm saying? Brug it.
Starting point is 01:05:46 And the people went for it. And they still don't know it. I hope they're going to look into what I just said. Why is a corporation paying less than you and they got way more money than you? Donald Trump said that's because they was going to put more plantations, You know what I mean? So that, you know, Walmart's and all that, you know, because that's all the
Starting point is 01:06:02 those are big plantations. When you walk at Walmart and you see all these pretty girls with the nice little jeans on, their little blue outfits, you know what I mean? And then you see, you know, those are the ones that's the sale girl, and then you see the cashier and then you see, you know, the more masculine-looking ones, day in the back, pushing the boxes and stocking the shells. Those are the field workers picking the cotton. You know what Walmart are you going to that there's pretty women working at the front?
Starting point is 01:06:29 Not in Connecticut, man. Listen, I bet you haven't paid attention is what it is. Because you take it, I know that's what it is. And I'm going to challenge you on this and then you make it live. You make a short. I'll make a video for it. I mean, there you go. I'm a challenge you.
Starting point is 01:06:43 You go to their local Walmart because I ain't got enough time to go with you today. And you walk through there and you tell me that you didn't see no pretty girls in there. You know, even workers are definitely the ones coming in. But they got pretty young girls in there that want to do the right thing. Pretty young women that want to do the right thing. But don't just look at them because they're wearing the Walmart jacket and it's covering up their dairy air and all of that. But really look at the women that work in there.
Starting point is 01:07:09 No, I never judge by that. No, no, no, no, no. No, not judge. What I'm saying is because you can't see the ass with the smock. That's why they have them wearing the smock. They had them wearing the smock in prison. Guys used to masturbate to the females to jump in the prison because we're riding right now. You know, guys used to masturbate, you know, to the prison.
Starting point is 01:07:26 First, it was only Cubans doing it. You know what I mean? And then, you know, then the younger black dudes that came in after us started doing it. Because we used to stab dudes up for doing that disrespecting women like that. But you got dudes that sit there and they masturbate to the women. So when they started masturbate to the women, what they did is they wound up letting the females wear smocks. Because you couldn't stop a female from having a nice body. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:07:50 So when a girl is, and, you know, she's wearing a regular prison pants and she got her, you know, her jacket tied up. You know what I mean? Got a got a pants in the shirt. You see a little waistline the fat ass and a nice breast and everything is form fitting. But she's wearing the uniform. But to us out here, you know, she's just wearing a uniform. But when you win there is unique 20 years without seeing a woman
Starting point is 01:08:12 unless she went on a visit and some dudes don't even go on a visit. So when a female come in and they're wearing their lipstick and they got their shirt and their pants and their ass looking like this, you got dudes that lose their mind and grab their joint and just start gunning, man. Yeah, they call them gunners. Yeah, it's all them gunners. When I was in the shoe. Taliban, assassins.
Starting point is 01:08:31 You know what I mean? They're snipers, man. Snipers. The D.C. guys are notorious for that. I've met a lot of D.C. guys that would do that at the lows. Yeah, well, I don't know about it in the low, but the D.C. men that's in the penitaries that I was in, they wouldn't allow their younger ones that you was meeting that had the short time to go do that. Because a dude from D.C. came in a pen and he pulled his joint out on a woman.
Starting point is 01:08:54 The D.C. car is going to punish them. The police going to let the D. You know, your man is this, beginning, the women, da-da-da-da. So that's giving D.C. a bad name. And everything is you want to have your morals and principles intact. So you don't want the females looking and saying what you just said. Okay. So it's a young D.C. guys.
Starting point is 01:09:10 It's a new generation. Yes, a new generation. I don't know. You have heard that about the young D.C. ones. They're a little wild. Well, to be honest, I didn't hear that about just the D.C. You don't heard that about the young black guys. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Just in general, all across the board, not just from D.C. You got guys from New York, Chicago. young dudes, like the new generation, they feel it's all right to do that for some reason. But us old timers, we don't want that around us because at the same time, not only are we more maturing, and we did disrespect women on the street,
Starting point is 01:09:40 let me just say that, and that's where the Snoop Dog, bitches ain't nothing but the holes and tricks came from. That's the era I came from. You understand what I'm saying? But at the same time, we wasn't raping no women either. Everything was consensual. So if you're going to sit there and pull your joint out
Starting point is 01:09:55 and that's equivalent to raping a woman, unless she say, yo, let me see that dick in your hand. You know, and, you know, then you and her got that understanding, and that's a consensual sex. You know what I mean? Whether it's masturbation from a distance or whatever. Like you're in a hotel with your girl, and she tell you, I would lay down, let me see you masturbate.
Starting point is 01:10:13 And you have a right to say yes or no. You tell her to do, she got a right to say yes or no. You know what I mean? But if you're just out with a female and you just pull your joint out of your hand and start pulling, you know, that's disrespect. That's like raping because you're taking the sex in your mind. Excema is unpredictable. But you can flare less with ebbglis.
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Starting point is 01:11:31 Give me a break, a piece of that Kid Cat bar. Have a break. Have a Kit Cat. You understand? So us old time, we don't play that. Don't play that at all. You know, so, you know, you get stabbed up. You're going to penitentiaries while I was dead.
Starting point is 01:12:06 I just came home in 2020, and I asked my homies, I'm sure my old-head homies is not allowing them to do it. But when you talk about them lower securities where you was at, There's no old timers around them to school them. So they just came in as savages that generation, not just guys from D.C. that's young. You know what I mean? I'm talking about, you know, the dirtiest South car and all that.
Starting point is 01:12:26 I don't know if you know about the cars. Yeah. You know, where was you at? Was you up here down south? I was in Fort Dix and then I went to Danbury. And then I got into trouble at Fort Dix because I didn't know anything about the cars. So I'm sitting there moving around,
Starting point is 01:12:39 interacting with everyone trying to get businesses going and shit. And they all thought I was the second. offender. Is it? And I didn't know anything about paperwork or nothing. Yeah. So when I go in there and I'm moving around, they're like, who the fuck's is sex offender running around?
Starting point is 01:12:53 Because I have that look, you know? Yeah, not because you look like an innocent white dude. But they'd get taken advantage of. Like, what happens to an innocent white dude. No, all day. But what I'm saying, look at your glasses and what you're wearing. So right there, that's the stereotypical sex offender look that we see getting arrested. Even you go watch a movie.
Starting point is 01:13:12 I was watching the movie other day. my man, Wani put me on where a dude bought his son and daughter, lady came to the house, talked to me and bringing the son and daughter to, you know, to apartment to be models, to get the modeling career going. And when she brings them in there, when he brings them in there, he leaves it. They'd be done in an hour. When he came back in an hour, they was gone. They don't kidnap them and put him in the sex trade world.
Starting point is 01:13:35 You understand what I'm saying? And then he goes to the dude looking for his son and daughter, and he winds up tracking him down, but it was based on a true story. But even if you look at the guys in that movie or any movie that they have playing a sex offender, no disrespect, they look like you, bro. Thanks, Cedic. But I'm just keeping the 100.
Starting point is 01:13:53 And that's why when you went there, you had that because the same way, you know, that's called, that's called, we know stereotyping, but they called it racial profiling. Because like when we drive in a Mercedes-BBSs and tinted windows and a flip-flop paint down I-95, they always pulled us over back then. And then they filed drugs orders.
Starting point is 01:14:14 But then it was the same thing. Whenever they asked the police, why did you pull them over? He said, oh, because it looked like a black dope dealer car. So now you're racially pro-sharling, and anybody got a Mercedes-Benz with flip-flop, blah, blah, bop. And they won that where they had to stop doing that, you know, racially profiling,
Starting point is 01:14:29 meaning you got to get them because, you know, a tail light is out and he uses blanket, he's speeding for traffic violation, not just because he drive a car that looks like a drug dealer car or they can't pull you over and tell you that, hey, let me see your papers that you're not a sex offender right here
Starting point is 01:14:44 in Danbury. He's like, what are you doing this? No, because you look like a sex offender. What's a sex offender? Clean-cut young white guy? Because you had a few of them that did that? Now, anybody that wear regular rim-faced glasses and hair cut is a sex offender? And that's what they did away with when it made always Supreme Court about
Starting point is 01:15:00 the racial profiling. And we was doing it because everybody did it. And they did it with you in Danbury. They labeled you a sex offender. So would you have looked out out for me if you had met me on the yard? Like, say I roll in it on the yard looking like me. What happens?
Starting point is 01:15:16 No, I mean, first of all, I would have to see your paperwork. If your paperwork was right, no, I wouldn't let nobody do nothing to you. If your paperwork wasn't right and you tried to get around me, then I would have to smack the shit out to me for trying to deceive me and being a rat bastard. And a rat bastard is someone that don't stand on what they did. But somebody say, look, I got a sex offender charge. I just want to let you know that so that, you know, everything is in the front. Then I say, all, well, cool.
Starting point is 01:15:37 And you stay over there. I'm good. You understand? If you're coming and say, now I'm here for a white collar crime, woo, woo, you know what I mean? And, you know, I want a soup. You understand?
Starting point is 01:15:46 I'm saying, I didn't get my package yet. You're like a nice guy. I mean, you was kicking it. I'll give you a soup. But if you're a sex offender and come and tell me you a sex offender at before soup, no, you ain't got nothing coming. What happens to the guy that says he's not?
Starting point is 01:16:00 You give him the soup and then you find out he is. Then you got to hit him because that's a rat bastard because you're deceiving me. Tell me who you all. Then I know how to deal with you. That's it. Just tell me who you are. Like people think that.
Starting point is 01:16:10 I'll be hitting my channel saying, you know, gunshots did a flip-fought wearing rat bastards. A rat bastard, I don't have nothing against somebody that took off what a civilian supposed to do. And that's what I'm trying to get these people to do. Be civilians, man, so that you don't have to put yourself in a situation or tell on your comrade because you're not doing anything wrong. But if you choose to go on the streets, make sure you follow the rules of the game. And it's an ugly game and it's ugly rules. so ugly that I couldn't even tell on my own brother
Starting point is 01:16:42 to get my freedom and he was dead but that's the ugly rules and then now you have people debating on YouTube oh he's dead and nobody's going to jail nobody's dead no but you helping the police solve a case whether they're dead or alive you just did the police's job
Starting point is 01:17:02 period so nobody have to go to jail to be a rat is to get somebody indicted, you know what I mean, you know, and put in jail and convicted. So somebody got away with a murder and then you helped them get convicted, but they didn't go to jail so you didn't tell. But then now their kids got to live with the fact that it came out 20, 30 years later that their father killed somebody when their father got away with it. But somebody wanted to get out of jail. So he said, oh, his father is the one that killed this
Starting point is 01:17:37 person. And this person been raised to think their father's the greatest thing than cook food. He was just a drug deal and he got killed in a drug deal gone bad. It's what he was raised. And then now somebody said, nah, but he also killed 10 people. And now this kid have to live with that. So you're pulling the Band-Aid off of certain things that should have died with the body. That's like I was watching the YSelt trial. And they asked the dude tick, I think his name was, that we just understand. They asked them, about somebody that died. And he said, well, I don't want to speak on him because he's dead.
Starting point is 01:18:12 And the court said, I respect that. The judge said that. Yeah, and they left it alone. Because you don't speak on the dead. Yeah, the person's not there to defend themselves either. Yeah, but I'm just saying you don't. You let the dead rest in peace, man, in any religion and any sane society. But nowadays, they took it to the next level.
Starting point is 01:18:37 where, you know, dudes talking about they smoking this person because he's dead to making fun, man, that's not cool, man. Make fun of somebody that's dead saying you're smoking them. That's not cool, but that's how they choose to live. I mean, I can't choose them, but I'm here to let them know that, no, let their dead rest because we wasn't here to tell them. So they picked up these other ways that's not, you know, righteous. And they ran with it because we wasn't dead.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Because we dropped the ball and went to jail by the bad choices we made. And that's why I always say that I apologize to my community for everything I did. And that's why I'm doing my YouTube channel, Unique Maker Audio, to try and give back by saving somebody. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. You're making a difference. You're making an impact. Because it's the people with lived experience that the youth are going to understand better because you bend through that.
Starting point is 01:19:35 You know, like a politician could go on and say, hey, Don't do drugs. Don't do this. Don't do that. Kids take it with a grain of assault or anyone, you know? They see someone like you who's literally been fighting for his life inside a federal prison, the worst of the worst. That's got some weight to it.
Starting point is 01:19:49 You understand what I'm saying? I mean, you know, it's just crazy, man. But, you know, that's sad and it's sick at the same time because we dropped the ball when we fell doing that mandatory minimum and that crack law epidemic. We got tricked, man. And I'm man enough to say it. I got, as smart as I am, I got bamboozled. That's when you got arrested?
Starting point is 01:20:13 Yeah, to even sell the drugs too get arrested. Okay. You know what I mean? And I deserve to go to jail when I get caught. How did you get caught? You know what I mean? Man, that's the whole thing. I didn't even get caught.
Starting point is 01:20:25 I didn't even, I've never been arrested for drugs a day in my life. You know what I mean? My whole thing was people told on me. You understand? And it wasn't even my comrades that told on me. You understand what I'm saying? These, you know, these are people that I took care of. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:20:41 The very people that I took care, bought them cars, houses, helped them get everything, help them get their life together. Those are the ones that told on me. The ones that you at least expect. And that's why now I don't trust nobody, man. Nobody. You know what I mean? No matter how much you give somebody, it's never enough and they'll want to sacrifice you for them.
Starting point is 01:21:03 One of the things that I was really, really fascinated about with your story is that when you got arrested and when you went before the judge to get sentenced, and you got sentenced to what life in prison, right? Life with no chance of parole. What did you tell the judge when you got sentenced? Because I think that speaks wonders to your growth and what you were able to become of yourself after prison too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:30 Now, when I got locked up and it was time to get sentenced, I just told the judge straight up. I already knew I had 330 kilos of crack cocaine. that it was saying. It was powder, but they switched it to crack. Either way, both was life all the way. So I knew I was life all the way across the guard, category six for career offender and the whole nine. So, you know, I just told them, send me someplace close to the home so I could further my education. So if something come down a pike late on, I could go home and be a productive citizen. Prosecutor jumped up, called me every scumbag in the book, said I think I'm going home one day. And no matter what, if they let me out 30 years from now, if they're driving space ships,
Starting point is 01:22:05 I'll figure out a way to do something illegal with the state. spaceship. You know what I mean? So that haunted me for 26 years. So the judge sent me somewhere, he said, man, there's nothing I can do. You got too much drugs. Only way I can help you is if you work with the prosecutor and tell us who you got the drugs from. You know, he said, and it's on the record. He said, and I know you're on no snitching code. I said, no, I'm not on no code. You know what I mean? But I'm definitely not telling you nothing because that's your job to find it. All I'm actually do is send me someplace I can further my education. You know what mean. He said, okay, when you do that, and you come back and see me. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:22:37 So I'd say, well, just send me somebody close to homie. He sent me to Lewisborough. I went to Lewisburg. They was trying to kill one of the homies there. And, you know, I jumped in and allegedly stabbed two police, riot and all this, wound up in ADX. That's where I met, you know, Larry Hoover, Matula Shakur, Juan Ramon, Mata, um, uh, uh, um, what's his name good man, Mario Villa Bona. You understand? I'm saying, that's where I met the, you know, I met men, you know, and that's the, you know, and that's the thing. And that's, you know, and you know, fly that I just interviewed from D.C. Keith Gaffley, I think his real name is,
Starting point is 01:23:09 but I met, man, Dave Ford. And those are the ones that shaped me in the right way instead of like my brother in the streets did for their personal gain on the street. These was brothers that was already buried with time and they was trying to get me right so that I could get my life where it needed to be. And right now, I'm one of them trying to get them
Starting point is 01:23:33 where it need to be. You understand the youth I'm talking about. So then Donald Trump signed the thing in on the four, four things saying that the judge had the permission to reduce the sentence, you know, if we can show we self-reabilitated. Here I go. I got over 100 certificates and awards. I became a certified electrician.
Starting point is 01:23:53 All this is certification by the federal government, you know. Certified electrician, certified mechanic, certified HVAC and refrigeration, certified culinary arts cook. You know, I learned about the computers. That's why I was a little illiterate, I mean, literate when it came to this computer technology. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:24:13 And, you know, I took 3,500 hours of psychological training to find out why I wouldn't tell him my own brother even though he was dead to get out of jail. Because I know that wasn't normal, but that was embedded in me. So I wanted to find out why. You understand what I'm saying? And from that, I learned, you know, what they call that,
Starting point is 01:24:39 cognitive behavior therapy and, you know, all this letters and all this come with the alphabet. And I got my whole resume and everything. And I took all that, put it in a big priority box. It filled up a box like this on my accomplishments. And I took them same two pages of me and my judge talking when I asked him, send me someplace close to the home. And he said there was nothing I could do for you. And it just so happened in the bill that Donald Trump signed.
Starting point is 01:25:04 It said that if the judge wanted to help and he couldn't help because of the mandatory minimum, now he has the chance to do it if he solely choose. That means the prosecutor always get a chance to respond. But the judge makes the ultimate decision with the 404 that Donald Trump signed in. So I took those same papers and I put it just to him. I said, look, I honored my word when I came in front of you and asked you to send me someplace I could further my education. I started off bumpy. Yes, I, you know, literally stabbed two police and yeah, I literally did a riot. But, you know, that was my first couple of years and I was angry
Starting point is 01:25:41 and, you know, I got myself together now and this is what I've done over the last 26 years. And I sent in that big-ass priority box. And then I had a letter from the chief psychiatrist that worked with me for the 3,500 hours to find out why I was twisted to write a letter saying that she never met a man that had done so much self-improvement in her life and that she'll welcome me as her neighbor and that I've worked with a number of youth that went home and wrote back to the jail. I was in a program called Skills Program that says that, that said that, you know, because of me, they have their life together now and they, you know, they work and, you know, they got their woman, they got a car and they no longer breaking the law thanks to, you know, them living with me in the cell.
Starting point is 01:26:27 You see what I'm coming from? something important to focus on here because there's a message underlying in here. There's two things. It's one, did you do all of those things because in your heart, in your mind, you believe that you were going to eventually make it out of there one day? Or did you do it because you wanted to become a better man and fix your past mistakes and be the person that you wanted to become? It wasn't even about coming out because, like I said, I grew up in and out of jail and, you know,
Starting point is 01:26:54 and like I said, I already realized that the streets was a prison. I did all of that because I wanted to show that no good prosecutor that said my life was scum and that I wasted my life and that I never amount to nothing that he was wrong. Even if you were going to die in prison. Even if I was going to die, I didn't care about dying in prison. You know what I mean? Because death comes to us regardless. I could die getting on a highway driving back down.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Would I be mad hell no? Do you understand what I'm saying? Because death is the only thing that's guaranteed to you in life. Now the other part of this is that you want to be. wanted to prove him wrong. But in that process of proving... And I wanted to better myself. Of course.
Starting point is 01:27:32 Yeah. Let's get that right. Let's get that right. I knew I wanted to better myself. That's why I asked him, oh, ho. First of all, I did it all for me. I asked the judge to send me someplace, you know, close to home so I could better myself as how it all started.
Starting point is 01:27:44 Because that's what I sincerely wanted. I wanted to try and do it the right way now because I don't try that 29 years the wrong way. So now I want to do it the right way. Now I got time where I got a sit there. I want to go to school and they was giving grants in there at the time. this and that. I want to better myself, Your Honor. Send me someplace close to the home they got the best educational programs. That's how it started because that's what I sincerely wanted.
Starting point is 01:28:07 I wanted and I got accomplished in my heart. But after I said that, the prosecutor jumped in to challenge me like, oh, he's full of crap, whatever they do, he's going to this and he's going to die. And you know the crazy thing I can show you when we fit with the interview. I went when I came home, I went back down to his office and took a paralegal with me to make sure he didn't think I was coming out. I need to do nothing to him. But just to look him in his face and tell him that, see, you was wrong about me.
Starting point is 01:28:32 I like that. I'm a free man and look where I'm at right now. And I want to thank you for calling me a scumbag because that was the motivation for me to do what I was trying to do in my heart. Anytime I thought about quitting in 26 years because school got hard or got tired of jailing or whatever, I always remembered you calling me a scumbag telling me I couldn't do it. What I want to highlight is that prison, they save the system, is supposed to be a rehabilitative environment. You had to, I mean, I could tell stories.
Starting point is 01:29:03 I had to do that on my own. They didn't offer nothing. All of those programs I took, right? Over these 26 years while I'm doing all this, I kept putting in to go to a lower security jail so I could get better educational programs, access to them, because you get better programs, you know, and the mediums and the lows
Starting point is 01:29:18 could they expect you to go out. But every program I tried to, every time I try to get to a lower security, they kept bringing up, you got a kingpin charge. you allegedly stabbed two police. You started to ride. Man, that was 15 years ago.
Starting point is 01:29:31 Then before you know, 20 years ago, before you notice, 25 years ago, and then that law came out. When they came to my door to tell me I was released, I thought they was coming to my door
Starting point is 01:29:40 to finally send me back to a medium. When they asked me to give me an address, I thought they wanted my address to send me to a medium security prison. And he said, give me an address. I told my program out of my case, man, get the fuck away from my door.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Because he, you know, He refused to send me. And when they ordered him to write the transfer, he wrote the transfer and didn't put none of my accomplishments in it just to make sure it would fail. So then here it is, I'm getting ready to go up for another transfer. So I'm telling them, get me out of his unit, so I get somebody going to do it the right way.
Starting point is 01:30:13 So I was beefing with him about that. And one unit, man, you said, come down to my unit. I make sure that I write it up my soul, because you definitely deserve to be in the medium. You know? So while I'm waiting, two days, after I had that conversation with him, my case man,
Starting point is 01:30:27 just a little racist Mexican, come knock on the door and tell him, I'm giving me an address. I said, no, I'm not giving you shit. I don't need you to do my transfer. Get the way from my door.
Starting point is 01:30:36 And he said, no, I need your address. I said, man, get away from my door. And I went laid back down. He said, man, come in. So I laid back. I said, what? So he said, man, you were just released.
Starting point is 01:30:45 He said, man, get away from my door. I'm thinking now he's telling jokes. I need your address to do your release papers. I'm doing life plus 20. I didn't even know the judge ruled on. I said, man, get away from my door. You know what I mean? And I went laid back down.
Starting point is 01:30:57 He went downstairs and got the email that he got and came up and he slitted under my door and I looked at it and my knees just started going like this. You know what I mean? Couldn't control them as I'm looking at it. And he's looking at me to see a reaction. So I just took it. I said, I don't get the fuck away from my door.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Wow. And as soon as he left, man, I fell right to the ground because my knees couldn't hold no more. It took every ounce of energy to be able to stand up. And I took a step towards going towards the, you know, the bunk. And, you know, I smiled themselves and bang my knees on the ground and hit my head on the side of the bed and said, thank you, Lord. All the prayers finally came through, man, that you don't have to worry about me. I'm going to make sure I do the right thing for my people.
Starting point is 01:31:39 I'm going to honor my prayers that I've gave you for 26 years. And that's what I'm doing now, Unique Maker Audio on YouTube. You held that promise? I held it. Just like I held it to the judge. All I got is my word. Like you, I told you I was coming and what I told you. Don't never doubt me.
Starting point is 01:31:56 I give you my word on something. I'm going to die before I let that word fail. Only thing I want on my tombstone is one word, honorable. What do you want your ultimate message to be to the people listening and watching this? That is not worth it. You know what I mean? And that's coming from a man that made it to the top of the to the pole. I made all the way to the top, all the way to the top in the drug game.
Starting point is 01:32:16 You know, I had a big million-dollar club. You know what I mean? I was instrumental in, you know, rap. and all of that, getting a lot of the rappers out doing the 80s and 90s in New York. You know what I mean? I don't sold all the cocaine up, not just in New York.
Starting point is 01:32:30 I'm talking about up and down the East Coast. You understand? I'm saying I don't have 30 cars. I don't have it all. All the women, jewels. I mean, I had a house full of clothes. One house that I just kept nothing but closing. Every room was a closet, that type of living.
Starting point is 01:32:43 You understand? Then when got locked up, there was nobody even go get the clothes out of the house. All that was in vain. 98% of the clothes I never even wore. You understand what I'm saying? So my ultimate message is, like I said, I like I said, I like the ride, but I stay on point. My ultimate message is that I don't want no one to have to go through what I've been through.
Starting point is 01:33:04 So I'm sharing my story and I'm being as honest, real and raw and sincere about it as possible. So that anyone watching this that think that it's sweet to break the law and gamble with your freedom, know that unique maker audio is telling you it was not worth it. man, five years I sat in ADX. Five years. 23 and 1. I'm tired, man. And I don't want my youth or my elders or anyone to have to go through what I went through.
Starting point is 01:33:38 It wasn't worth it, man. And if they can't get that, go do what you want to do. Like I always tell them on my channel, if you feel you tough enough to do it, go do it. But I'm telling you not to do it. But if your dumb ass think that you can handle it. When I'm sitting here as a prime example, that's like a man that died and came back and tell you that man, they got fire in hell
Starting point is 01:34:00 and they're eating you and letting you still live where they eat your whole body, just your head, and you could just look and see the dogs eating you and then you still want to go and put yourself in a position to go to hell. Then that's on you. Go to hell, my nigga. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:34:18 Go to hell. But I'm telling you, I've been to hell, and I'm back, and I'm telling you it's an ugly ride, man. I don't want you to be away where I said, I went in my daughter was 18 months. I come home, my daughter, 27 years old. I don't even know the woman. I can't even say a young lady because I missed all the young time. Now, I got to start all over trying to, you know, trying to meet her and understand her.
Starting point is 01:34:40 And the thing is, you know, daughters don't, you know, daughters are selfish. You know what I mean? Daughters are selfish because they have such high expectations of daddy, which they rightfully are supposed to be. So I'm not saying nothing wrong with it. But daughters are selfish. Me and my sons get along because they kind of could understand my pain and they'll know when to just shut up and push back and don't say nothing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:35:03 But a daughter, they're so used to yangangangangangang that they think they could come at us after we've been gone for decades, man. I can't phantom what my daughter went through from she was 18 months until she was 27. I can't phantom it. So I would never make fun of it. I never criticize it. I never, you know, disrespect about it. But daughters can't do the same for us that's been away.
Starting point is 01:35:30 They say, no, but you're my father. You chose to sell drugs. I'm not going to have a conversation with you, but I told the soul drugs and I put myself in jail. Because I'm telling you, yeah, I chose the soul drugs. I put myself in jail. I did my time. I apologize.
Starting point is 01:35:40 I'm here. Let's move from here forward. And leave that I wasn't dead for the last 29 years behind us. No, but I'm done. and I'm gone. That's it. Because I'm not going to sit here and disrespect you, meaning my daughters, you know, or, you know, or fight with them. That's, I just leave it alone.
Starting point is 01:36:08 When you can have some empathy, like I have empathy for your struggle of what you must have went through while I was gone because I don't know. You don't know what the hell I've been through while I was gone. So I emphasize with you and now I just need you to emphasize with me so we could sit down to get a common ground and try and learn each other because we're both adults now. And we both got our psychological traumas from our upbringing, from mine's in prison, and then yours from me being in prison and not being in prison and not being there to be father for you, to go to your ballerina class and take it to the piano cast, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 01:36:51 and take you shopping and have birthday parties with you. You understand what I'm saying? But we both have to emphasize. I'm saying it right, right? Emphasize. Emphasize. Yeah, because you know my accent kicking coming out of Jamaica. But you know, we know, we both have to, you know, emphasize with each other. Empathy, man. Come on.

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