Locked In with Ian Bick - Mobsters at Rikers Island, Inmates Faking Disabilities & Wild Prison Fights | Leroy Ebron Pt. 4
Episode Date: October 1, 2024Retired and viral Rikers Island prison guard Leroy Ebron reveals fascinating stories from his time on the job. In this 4th episode, Ebron dives into the world of Rikers' most notorious mobsters, the c...reative ways inmates faked being handicapped, and the intense realities of prison shower fights. #RikersIsland #PrisonStories #Mobsters #PrisonLife #LifeBehindBars #PrisonGuard #ViralStories #PrisonFights #TrueCrime #CorrectionalOfficer #PrisonReality #RikersIslandStories #CrimePodcast #InsidePrison #PrisonExperience Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Connect with Leroy Ebron: IG: https://www.instagram.com/ebronleroy/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/people/Leroy-Ebron/100080300273259/ Watch other episodes with Leroy Ebron: Pt. 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Km9Q7ED-WU&t=3895s Pt. 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIyagmqDFJw&t=796s Pt.3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj8xxxMOlsQ&t=333s Presented by Tyson 2.0 & Wooooo Energy: https://tyson20.com/ https://woooooenergy.com/ Buy Merch: https://lockedinbrand.com Use code lockedin at checkout to get 20% off your order Timestamps: 00:00:00 Leroy's Shoutouts and New YouTube Channel 00:03:14 Meeting a Remarkable Italian Man 00:07:13 Discovering the Deception: The Inmate Who Faked Blindness 00:10:51 Dramatic Confrontation in the Day Room 00:16:02 Encounters with Mafia Affiliates at Riker's Island 00:18:01 Protecting the Italian Dude: A Prison Story 00:22:43 Requesting an Italian Supervisor: A Special Favor 00:26:12 Harry's Unexpected Commissary Visit 00:30:25 Encounter with a Real Italian 00:34:36 An Unexpected Dinner Invitation 00:38:25 Unexpected Meeting with Cappuccino 00:44:25 Unexpected Sandwich Surprise 00:46:31 The Missing Phone Mystery in Jail 00:54:08 Tensions at the Prison 00:57:51 A Surprising Reunion and Apology 01:01:27 Farewell and Upcoming Surprise Episode of Manting Stories Powered by: Just Media House : https://www.justmediahouse.com/ Creative direction, design, assets, support by FWRD: https://www.fwrd.co Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Le Roy, welcome to Lockton, man.
Mr. 52 pick up the man himself, the man, the myth, the legend.
The people want you, the people got you, and, you know, big news, you're working on starting your own YouTube channel.
Once that's up, we'll have that plugged in.
Yes.
And people can get the exclusives.
Now, with all your fame that you have, I know you have some shoutouts to give at the top of this episode to the people that have been supporting you among your journey.
So you want to take a second to shout everyone out.
Yes, I would get out.
Big shout out to Big Speedy.
You know, I was talking to Big Speedy, me, ten toes down with Stain.
and my brother, Derek Brazill, we were talking to Spadie,
and I told him, Spadie, you deserve a shout out, man.
For all you've been doing your turnaround
and how you became the man that you became.
So a big shout out to you, okay?
I want to get a shout out to Rashonda.
She follows me all the time.
Rashonda, I got you, okay?
My neighbor Wayne, St. Clair, Robert,
my partner Babin, and Netflix, Jermaine, John Kennedy,
And Matt, I want to thank you all very much.
Okay?
And we can't forget my boy, Reg.
He said this was going to happen, and it happened.
And also shout out to the team of Tyson, you know,
hooking us up being the presenting sponsor,
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Yes, yes, thank you.
Am I driver, Black?
I got to give them Black.
I call him my executive manager, Black.
Now, today we have three.
Well, we have a teaser story.
And then we have two very exciting.
We're getting into the mafia at Rikers Island.
And as always, you brought the pop props.
You know that.
You brought the heat.
And I think the people just love, like, you always yell at me.
You're like, you don't talk that much.
People want to see it.
But you got to understand, the audience loves it uninterrupted.
They love to, they're not here for me.
They're here for you.
You're the star, you know?
I'm just the director.
And with you, you do it so self-sufficiently, which is why.
you should, I've been telling you to start your own YouTube channel.
But, you know, that's what the crowd loves.
You know, they love seeing, they're getting their Ian time right now, you know.
Right, right, right.
But now everyone's saying, Ian, shut up, let the man talk.
So I'm going to give the floor to you.
I'm going to let you rock out, do your thing and shine like you always do.
Hi, Ma'am, I love you.
Can't forget.
I always love my mama.
Yeah, how do you forget about your mom?
No, I feel her last, though.
Oh, can you do me one favor?
Move the mic closer.
No, no.
Sing the soprano song one time for me.
Get warmed up.
Get those vocal chords.
Your son, that's the beginning of the thing.
You know?
That's the beginning of the thing.
Let me tell you something, man.
When you in jail, you never know who expected going to come through there.
You know what I mean?
And that morning, I was on my way to work, and I got to Rackas Island.
And that day, it was just like an ordinary day, you know.
But before I tell you about this, this is a special shoutout, special shout out.
For that Italian man that I met back then, all right?
I looked at his floor card that said, Amando, right?
But he said, come in Amontichiro.
You know, right?
So, okay, that's what he liked to be called.
You understand?
but by me talking to him and getting to know, you know,
it's remarkable how close you can get with somebody
just by being there with them.
So, you know, you be with the guys all day, you know,
and you're talking to each other and stuff like that.
And he's a very special man.
And I know you're waiting ahead,
but before I tell you about him,
I got one I want to throw at you.
It was this guy came in, older man.
And when he came in, he came in with a pair of glasses on.
He came in like this.
And he had a cane.
I don't need that anymore.
He came with a cane.
Now, when you come in jail and you got glasses and cane,
you got to have papers for that.
Medical papers for your glasses back then.
and a cane
to carry a cane around
so we said
you got your papers
he had his papers
so we looked at it
cool
so while he came in the house
and he
I told him where his cell was
he went 7th cell
go ahead to your cell
while he was going to tell
in the cell
he fell
he fell
so when he fell he said
pick me up
oh dear Lord
pick me up
pick me up
Oh, dear Lord, pick me up.
Pick me up.
Oh, dear Lord, pick me up.
Pick me up.
Oh, dear Lord, pick me up.
And because he was an older man, all of us, not only me,
I rushed to help him pick him up.
The other inmates, they help to pick him up.
Be like, yo, you're all right.
Well, thank you, thank you.
So we all walk him to a cell.
And this went on for about three months
until one day the jail got locked down.
Now on a lockdown, nothing moves.
No movement in the hall, nobody goes nowhere.
But because my housing area is locked down,
I still do certain things because I got it like that with the boss.
The depths, the warnings, they know I know how to do this.
So I said, all right, this is a perfect time for the guy
to go in the shower by itself.
So I told him, go on the shower by yourself.
man.
He said, okay, you know.
So he goes in the shower.
You know, he takes his glasses off.
Leave him in his cell.
He walking with the cane.
I'm just looking at him.
He's like, you know, but he can see, but not that good as he's, you know.
So he gets in his shower.
And I said, okay, time up, man.
Come on, man.
Let somebody else get it.
He said, okay.
So meanwhile, me not knowing my house gang and my suicide,
they're watching them
and they've been watching them for a minute
so they're watching them in the cell
I'm like why is they by his cell?
So then they came to me
Yo, Ebron, I said, yo what's up?
You know, man, we think that guy's faking, man.
We think that man faking, man.
I was like, man, what are you talking fake?
He got the medical papers and everything.
Yo, Ebron, we're telling you, man.
We brand the final he's faking.
I'm like, yo, he's not faking.
So he got the paperwork and everything.
You think they're going to let him have his paperwork
and stuff, except even, but we watched them for like five minutes.
Go to his cell.
He reached for the notebook.
He knew where the pen was up.
He looked at the pen, wrote, see, was there any ink on the pen and wrote a whole letter.
And then when he finished, he put it back over there and hung the thing up over there.
I said, what?
He said, yeah.
Because we always hear them banging stuff with the stick.
So we always check it on.
So I said, okay, let me go look at him.
And when I went to look at him, he was looking out the window.
And like these cells, some of the guys know that y'all been locked up.
Sometimes you got a hole in your window like that.
Somebody then bang the hole in the window.
And I'm looking at him, and he was looking through the hole.
And a bird was on his window sill.
And he had a piece of bread, and he was like sticking it through the hole.
Here, pretty, pretty, pretty.
here, Bertie, Bertie, Bertie.
And I'm like, yo, this nigga said he can't see it.
Here, Bertie, Bertie, buddy, buddy.
Yo, I watched this, nigga.
He said, if you come tomorrow at the same time and the same place,
I have some more bread for you, Bertie.
And when he turned around and he saw me, he saw a ghost.
I was standing right there watching him.
He said, oh, he brought.
I said, yeah, that's me.
I said, how are you doing, you're right?
He said, yeah.
I said, y'all, by the way,
I could have swore you was feeding that bird through that little hole over there.
He was like, oh, it's a bird over there?
I'm like, I didn't know it was a bird.
I hear the bird, but I can't see him.
Oh, you can't see the bird by the window?
Nah, I can't see it.
It's a bird there?
What color is he?
So you wasn't feeding that bird?
Nah, I, Abron, you know, I can't see.
see like, I can't feel no bird.
I wish I could see like that.
I said, all right.
So I walk away from the cell.
I said, yo, the dudes are like,
I told you he brought to.
Hold up, hold up.
Let me make a phone call.
I call a clinic.
Because I know the doctor.
I said, your doctor, got this guy here with the cane,
you know.
He said, oh, yeah, Ebro, you're talking about the guy
with the, you know, glasses and chaos.
I said, yeah.
He said, Ebron.
I said, well, he said, that's all the fake.
I said what?
He said, security coming to get that cane in the morning.
He don't need the cane, and he ain't blind, head blind.
That boy got 20-20 vision.
I said, what?
I said, all this time, this guy got the first of everything he owned,
first to go to the commissary, first to get the haircut,
first to eat through the feeding,
everything, social service, first,
everything you could think of this man got first.
Not only that, the house is taking care.
People are giving this guy $25 in his commissary.
This man doesn't need anything.
He's loaded.
And they heard the conversation that I have with the doctor.
There's always an ear on the gate.
Listen it.
They said, yo, he was thinking that thing ain't blind.
Yo, August, we're going to get that.
We're going to get that.
I said, oh, God.
They don't heard me talk to it down.
So my partner said, he, bro, you'll have to get on the floor.
I get on the floor, because they're in the day room.
They just talk about wait until he come out.
Wait until he come out.
So I go in there.
And then I said, he-law and I said, no, he?
You know how much money we got?
I give him $25 every comment, savvy.
I was a digger, bought him under shows, gave him draws.
This man didn't need for nothing.
So I said, listen, we're going to deal with this.
All right, lockdown is over with.
I'm going to open all the cells,
but I'm going to let him out last.
I'm going to let him out last.
Because I got to figure out how I'm going to deal with this.
They all in the day room, now the whole day room.
Lined up like the mob squad.
They wait for.
I'm like, yo, no, y'all can't do this.
We ain't going to do.
Oh, he brought me.
You know how much I spent on?
Nah, man.
I said, don't wait, we're going to take care.
I'm saying we're going to take care of.
Meanwhile, I'm like, oh, man.
So I said, all right, let him out.
So he'd come out.
He come out and himself and he got his cane.
And, you know, he could see, like he said, a little bit.
I'm not saying he's totally blind.
But you can see a little bit, right?
He's walking him around like this, hitting anything.
And then I said, all right, go to the day room.
And listen, when this man hits the day room and he see all the inmates lined up like going like this, he goes just like this.
Ready?
He went like this.
And how they say, that's when you know you just forgot all.
He went like this.
How the hell?
He said he let him go, here he go.
There he's there.
He said all of him going like this.
He tried to turn around and walk out, and then he's going to try to play that trick on me and fall on the floor and start singing,
pick me up, oh dear Lord, pick me up.
Pick me up, oh dear Lord, pick me up.
And his ass was right where my foot was.
I took my foot and I kicked him dead at his ass.
Get your ass up, you figure.
And he jumped up.
He said, he brought.
And they all started to try to go watch him.
And he ran, thank God for my partner.
He ran to his cell.
He made it to his cell.
My partner closed it, you know, right away
before they could get to him.
They're like, we're going to get him.
And so when he went in the cell,
he said, I'm going to pay everybody back.
I'm going to pay everybody back.
They said, no, you played us for a fool.
You said, I'm going to pay everybody back.
Yo, I'm trying to tell you, son.
That was a sight to see.
How did they get the medical clearance?
How did he get the medical clearance?
Did someone over looked at?
They must have because when they come with papers.
Because you said it was legit.
You checked it.
It was forged papers.
Forge papers.
So did the guy survive?
And they were stable to his floor car.
Did he survive?
Huh?
The first thing they say is Ebrod, don't move them.
Because, you know, that's when stuff like that happened, we moved out the house.
They said he owe too much.
do not move him
until we get everything
we get that
so to keep them off his butt
I said listen
you got to pay anybody back man
you got to pay everybody back
he said don't worry me
I'm gonna pay everybody back
and he paid everybody back
it's actually pretty smart to survive
pretend like you're disabled
and that's what he did
yeah wow
that's what he did man
and in those situations
they don't want to just prove a principle
they'd rather have the money
than to try to physically hurt him
Well, at that time, they just knew that they was played.
Okay.
He played him like a funky piano.
The three blind mice or the Piper.
You know, he even played me too because I thought he was, you know, legit.
You legit tell the doctor told me so.
But it was all right.
It was all right.
It was a lesson.
Now the mob, there was actually mobsters at Rikers Island during your time there.
I thought it was mostly fed cases they were getting picked up on.
Look, look, you never know who comes through them doors.
You never know what kind of ties they have
until you sit down and talk to them and stuff like that.
I knew this.
I got to stop saying, I knew, because you can't judge a book by its cover,
but you have a kind of insight of somebody background,
the way they come in, the way they talk,
the way they carry themselves.
And me personally, I knew he was some kind of mafia-affiliated line ties, you know.
And when he came in, he came with some other guys, you know, and he came in.
And like I tell you, you never know who come and do outdoors.
Nationality, they get him all types.
But he was different because he was older than the rest of the guys.
And he was dressed different.
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Like a monster.
Like you?
Yeah, yeah.
But he's an inmate.
But he's an inmate.
But he was dread like a monster.
And when he came in and everybody was
looking in the day room
you know guys that they don't push-ups
pull-ups playing checkers
you know what I'm saying
chess and tunk
you know all kinds of blackjack
you know and all of them
they look at at the guys in the day room
and the guys looking at them like yeah
I see you I'll see them sneakers I want those
you know and he's a grown man you know
you got your son them are mine me come in
him getting taken over
You see those sneaker screens?
Fire.
Sneaker screen.
They're on sneaker screen.
They're grown men, though.
Adolesant mind, grown men.
But the old man
still straight.
Never looked in the day room.
Just one time I saw him glance like this.
Just like that.
I'm looking at him, right?
So I go down there and I explain to him.
Listen, this is Jocel.
This is Jocel.
I tell an Italian dude.
listen, this eight cell is yours.
I said, listen, all the cells are clean out.
But if you don't like the way they clean,
the slop sink is right there.
We got the mop the bucket.
You can go over it and do it yourself.
You know?
When you finish, just bring it back and put it in.
So the Italian dude was the last one to clean itself.
He let everybody else do it.
And then he came and he did his.
Right?
And I'm just watching.
Just do it, nice and smooth.
Has some kind of finesse about him.
You know what I mean?
And I'm watching.
So I walked by and I said, you all right?
Everything I'm right?
You just say, just like that.
I said, okay.
So the day goes on.
And the guys in the day room, they plotting.
Yeah, we got to make some money.
We got to start taxing these dudes.
Tax them for the phone and all that.
People got to get taxed.
Right?
So I'm listening to him.
then they were like
You got Italian dude
We got to get him too
You know he got money
Right
So I tell him I say yo leave him alone
So he's an older dude
Y'all just chill out
They'll leave him
Yo Ebon you're always trying to protect somebody
Just leave him alone y'all
Don't start no shit
And leave him alone
Right
So I walk off
So the Italian dude said
Screw me
Say cappuccino
walking by itself, you know?
I'm thinking I'm, I think I'm hearing things, you know what I'm saying?
I'm thinking I'm hearing things.
But that Italian voice you cannot deny.
He said, yo, cappuccino.
Cafitino.
He said, cappuccino.
Hey, cappuccino.
I said, excuse me, sir.
Are you talking to me?
He said, yeah.
I said, you call me cappuccino?
He said, yeah, he started laughing.
I said, yeah, okay.
How can I help you?
He said, do you mind if I could get a news or paper bar?
A newspaper?
Said, yeah.
I said, all right, don't worry, I got you.
So I went to go get him a newspaper.
And the guys, they was beefing.
You, E. Braun.
He don't rock newspapers.
He just got here.
I said, man, you're about to leave that old man alone.
I said, give me the newspaper.
Because they ain't going to do nothing with that newspaper here.
They're having for five, ten minutes that you know is on the floor.
So I gave the man the newspaper, right?
He looked at me, cappuccino, thank you.
No problem.
I give him the newspaper.
Right?
I walk away, go down to make my tear.
I come back, derailed his cell.
They around the Italian man's cell.
I'm like, I told him don't fuck with him.
I told him don't mess with him.
I go over here and now they're walking away because they see me coming.
So now he's standing up in the cell and I can tell they said something he didn't like
because his complexion was different.
This complexion was red.
And when he's red, that means somebody got you heated.
build your pressure up or something.
So I said,
Papizano.
What's going on?
He started laughing.
He said, Papa Zano?
Yeah.
Cafentino, Papadino.
Papadino meet Cavantino.
We just start laughing, right?
So I said, yeah.
I said, what's going on, Papa Zahner?
He said,
they're fucking mootis.
Do fucking mooties.
Do fucking Moolies said,
I do not a rock a news or paper.
I say what?
He said, they say,
I do not the rock a news of paper.
I said,
Papadano, don't worry about them.
I got you.
Don't worry about them.
He's shaking up.
He's upset now.
You know, moving his own, different.
You know,
he's all.
Yeah.
Fucking moly.
Right?
I go on the day with him.
I said, didn't I tell you
don't mess with him?
Didn't I tell you
I don't mess with him?
Do he brought me that?
He don't rock no newspaper.
Oh, fake Italian ass there.
He's faking, Ebro.
You're falling right into it.
He wants you to think
he ain't no goddamn Italian.
That nigger might be Puerto Rican or no.
I said, yo,
I don't care what he is.
but he ain't Puerto Rican.
He's Italian.
He ain't no fucking Italian, man.
That's what I'm talking about.
Fuck that, nigga.
He's going to get tax.
Don't mess with him.
I'm telling you all.
All right, I, bro, you always want to save a hole, digger.
You're always trying to save somebody.
So I go to him.
I want to make sure he's all right.
Papa Zahn, were you all right?
You had it sitting on the bed thinking.
He said, cappuccino.
I need a favor.
Anything you want, Papua Zano, anything you want.
He said, I need to speak to a supervisor, a cap, cocoon.
I said, Papadano, anything you want, I can take care it.
I got you.
He said, cappuccino, this is bigger than you.
Bigger than me?
Yeah.
I would like to speak to a supervisor or a captain.
I said, okay, if you feel like I can't, I'll do that for you.
He said, I went to walk away.
He said, cappuccino.
I said, what?
He said, preferable, Italiano, please.
Oh, you want an Italian?
Yeah.
Okay, it's just so happy, Ian.
My captain is Italian.
So it was no problem.
So I called him, I said, yo, Kat Maher.
He said, yeah, Mala.
He said, what?
I said, I got a situation down here.
He said, you can't handle it?
No, you can't handle it?
I said, no, but there's a special request from Italian guy.
And obviously, he wanted to talk to you because he asked for an Italian supervisor.
So he said, okay, yeah, I got you.
I'll be right down.
So he comes down.
when he come down,
the inmates in the day room
see him.
They're like,
Yo, Ebro, what's going on?
They see him going to the Italian dude sell.
Yo, Ibro, he snitching?
He's snitching.
What do he got to snitching about?
Y'all said he ain't doing that to him.
He ain't snitching.
He just wanted to talk to him captain about something.
He better not be snitching, Eber.
I'm telling you.
Oh, man, shut up, y'all.
He can't go to and talk to him.
Him to the captain talking.
Captain, come back to me, Ebrano, take him out for a minute.
I'll be right back.
I said, Captain, are they good?
She, ain't, that ain't, that's cool.
He takes them out.
They come back like a half an hour later.
When they come back, Captain just drop them off at the door.
Talent do come in.
Talented do look at me.
Thank you, Captain Chino.
And just looked in the day room at them like this.
went like that
and walked to a cell.
So they were like,
What's that for?
What's all that about?
I don't even know what it's about.
The next morning,
I'll go home.
Next morning I'll come in,
let everybody out.
Commissary.
Commissary.
We got this big guy.
Loufrizener-ridden-looking black dude.
Name is Harry.
in the back.
Harry been with me for four months.
Never been to commissary at all.
Harry come out.
Nobody messed with Harry.
Nobody would talk to Harry.
Harry only talked to me.
I sit down and talk to Harry all the time.
Harry going to commissary.
Harry haven't had a visit in four months.
Harry never been to commissary.
They said,
Harry got money?
That's what he said?
going to
commissary
but nobody
ain't going to
work with Harry
nobody
ain't missing with him
Harry
goes to
commissary
and come back
with two
$250 bags
see back then
you could spend
in the 80s
you can spend
how much
you want
if you got it
so $250
bags
that's $100
$50
in each bag
which
is a big
bag back
there
big brown
bag back
from the floor
up to here
that's how
long that bag is
and Harry
walking
with the two
bags back
in the house
like this
is to
Harry
two bags.
Oh, my God.
And when I'm looking, because I'm amazed,
Harry walks down,
but when he gets
to A cell,
he stopped and
pass a bag to the Italian
dude.
And I'm like, oh, shit.
And then kept going down
to his cell. So they
was like, yo, you saw that?
You saw that fit?
Yo, what's going on?
So I go down to the,
Italian Jew.
I said, Papadano, everything all right?
He said, yeah, cappuccino.
Everything is just fine.
I said, well, what's up with this
commentary with you and Harry?
He said, hey, I see
Harry don't have much.
Harry don't bother nobody.
So I figured I'll look out for my man.
Oh, so you did that for Harry?
Yeah.
I said, okay, no problem.
I go down to see Harry, Harry on the bed.
Harry, like, Harry, Harry, I said, I see that.
He's laughing.
He got everything, you know, Doritos, slim jims,
carrot cake, the loafs, banana cake, the loafs.
You know, a lot of the guys that just get locked up,
they never know nothing about the banana loaves.
And they carry that big, oh, my God,
what's the cold milk?
That was on my conversation.
lists.
They already know.
You bring me some banana cake
or carry cake with a cold milk.
I'm good.
Right?
Harry smiling
deaf.
I'm walking down.
I'm walking past the Italian cell.
Pappasano.
What's going on?
He said, no, I'm going to go for a walk.
He don't go for a walk.
He stays in a cell
and read that newspaper.
that I give him.
He got up behind me.
He walks in the day room,
and everybody got quiet.
And they see him.
And Ian, he stood in front of the TV like this.
Then he turned around, had his handfold there.
And he got you.
And the dude that I told you that was by himself,
he stood up from him, he said,
you,
Jonathan Luther,
5010
You cleared
Ivinor
Apartment 5C
You want to fuck with me
You want to fuck with me?
And the whole day room
Got quiet
And I was even like
Oh shit
Right
I was like
Oh shit
And when he went
To walk by it
Back to his cell
The kid that he pointed out
he came to me
I'm gonna get where I live
I didn't get my address
I didn't get my address
I said
I told you don't mess with him
I told you don't mess with that guy
he said okay
he's a fake Italian
your mom won't want to anyway
next you know
Amanda Tetto
Amando
Visit
he got a visit
Italian two go up on a visit
When he go on a visit
When he go on a visit
I'm waiting
The inmates come back.
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From the visit, you know, they come back from the visit,
and I mean, they're running back.
They can't wait to tell me.
They can't wait to tell me, y'all.
They say, I said, Epo, Epa.
I said, what?
He said, that Italian do, he's a real Italian.
He's real.
His visitors, big, big Italian.
Big meatball and spaghetti eating, motherfuck
Word up.
They're some big meatball eating spaghetti eating,
man, blah.
He's a real Italian.
He ain't no joke.
He's the real Italian.
Word.
What?
I said spaghetti and meatball eating?
Not only meatball eating.
Meatball ravi only eaten Italian.
They ain't meat, ball, but they are down him.
He's a real deal straight up.
So I'm like, what?
Yeah.
So then you come back from the visit,
we come back from the visit, everybody is shook.
He come back, he walked right in the day room.
We got the TV, nobody's saying nothing to him.
He goes in his cell, I didn't give him.
I didn't give him the newspaper.
The newspaper is on his bed.
I always give him a newspaper.
Now, all of a sudden, he got the newspaper.
I go to the day, yo, who gave Papa's down on the newspaper?
Hey, Mr. Adji, we gave it to him.
Oh, you all gave it to him.
Oh, your voice, shaky dog now.
You'll find out he the will deal, huh?
Meanwhile, the kid is begging me.
He's going, please, talk to him.
Talk to him.
Tell him, I'm sorry.
Tell him, I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to offend him or nothing.
I said, don't worry.
I'll talk to him.
But I told you lead that Italian dude alone.
You know, when I go to his cell,
he got his leg popped up on a bed like this with his leg crossed.
He got the newspaper like this.
I can't even see his face.
18 around a little, well, I say, you know, for up his honor, he goes like this.
Yeah.
And I, we bust out laughing.
I said, man, you is too much.
I wanted to ask him how you get the information, but me and you know.
That captain gave him that information.
That's the only way he could have got all that.
Right.
So I didn't go there with him.
So the time went on, right?
The time went on.
And one day I'm walking by.
Dang.
I'm walking by.
I'm walking by.
He passed me this card.
And the card, I'm like, what's this?
And he said, this card is to my restaurant.
Your restaurant?
He said, yeah.
He said, I own a restaurant on Rockaway Parkway, and I want you to go there.
They're waiting for you.
They're waiting for me.
Yeah, you and your wife go out to dinner.
In my expense, my name, everything is on back of the card.
I was like, whoa.
He said, it's on me, they're already expecting you.
Just hand them the card, and you're good.
I was like, I took the card.
I said, you ain't got to do that.
Papa Donald.
He said, no, I got you.
I want it.
All right, you know, I did go to the restaurant.
I drove.
But when I got there,
one of them high-class festival, son.
You know, you know, they got it when you pull up.
Valet parking, they come, they take your call.
They go around it, man.
I just watched it.
It was raining that day.
But I watched it for about 15, 20 minutes.
Me and my lady, I said, man, ain't nothing but Italian all those in there, one fuckers.
I don't see no black people, no nothing.
I was like, I ain't going up in there.
You know what I'm saying?
So I said, nah, I said, so the next day I go back to work.
He said, did you go?
Did you go?
I said, no, he started laughing.
He said, why, Capricino?
It's not a setup.
I said, I know you ain't trying to set me up,
but I thank you for everything, you know what I'm saying?
So he said, don't worry, Capitino.
Anytime that car, you and your, you know, y'all can go.
As time went by, I came in one day, he was gone.
You know, this is now I'm retired.
I'm riding my car through Pennsylvania Avenue.
in Star Right City.
Who pulls up in the projects?
I don't know do you ever see Sopranos,
but I got to give it to you, Pussy.
Pussy gets out a spanking white Cadillac
Gold Ragtop.
Oh, man, the prettiest Cadillac.
Ooh.
And he gets out the call, excuse me,
and he asks him for directions.
And he slick, his hair, slick, nice-coach.
I'm like, everybody like,
yo, that's pussy, that pussy.
You know?
And then, you know, in my mind, pussy out here creeping.
Pussy's creeping.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm saying?
Go pussy's out of them out.
I said, pussy creep it.
You know?
Then, you know, you got these asshole guys, some ignorant dude going to say, oh,
oh, shit, Rob.
I said, shut out with that stupid talk.
You know, but he said it so loud enough.
I thought Pussy might have heard him.
So I said, shut up, man, stupid that stupid talk.
So we tell Pussy the directions.
So Pussy say, okay.
So Pussy gets him.
in the car to drive off, but then he stopped short.
You know how you go about five feet and then you stop?
He drove about five feet, then he stopped.
I said, oh shit, the pussy here with this stupid dude said.
Now he's coming back to retaliate.
I said, I got nervous for a second, and then the door opened,
but then the back door opened too.
And he, you know, when that back door opened, you know who it was?
Mm-mm.
I thought I was seeing things.
I had to go like this.
For real, honestly.
I'm going to get like that.
And I looked.
And the old man that I was taking care of the Italian,
he said,
Cappuccino, is that you?
And I said,
I look.
He said,
Cappuccino, is that you?
I said,
you know, like that Wendy Houston movie.
I was a way.
love you
I know
no bullshit
we came
and we came to each other
we hugged each other
and I was like
oh shit I don't believe this
I don't believe
that Provisano
he said
Capacino
look at you
and I was like
then he looked at
pussy
pussy
do you remember
when I told you
I was locked up
and pussy
he said
this the Capacino
and pussy's like
what
I shook
pussy hair
pussy came to shake
my hand
right
and I was like
Oh, wow, I couldn't take my eyes up, Papa Zano.
He gave me another card that he had, and he said, call me, we're going to talk.
So I said, okay, and I couldn't take my eyes off the old man.
Old man couldn't take his eyes off of me.
And then when he got in the car, the pussy was getting the car,
and he looked like he said something to old man, pussie got out of the car,
tug in his pocket, and Zhu a mitt at me like this.
He said, here, that's yours.
Size of a baseball, rolled up a bit.
I said, what this?
And the old man stuck and said,
that for you, Caputino.
I got to give him his props.
I got to do it again.
Right here.
Campitino, Pappasano, this for you.
If you stay over here, you know I'm up here.
I saw your hand.
That for you, Camper Antonio.
Word.
Yo, son, let me tell you something.
I was lost for words.
I was lost for words, man, for real.
Then the guys are with me
Yo, how much she kept me?
Yo, let me see it.
Roll them up.
You're counting.
I ain't counting.
Here, y'all take some of that.
Come on, get out of here.
I took that pit in my pocket.
They said, counted.
No, I ain't counting.
Got in my car.
And I took off.
And like, I said, Papadano,
this is for you.
Oh, God,
cappuccino.
Oh, God, cappuccino.
Love you, n'n-n-n-n-n-na-na-na-na-da-na-na-na-na-na.
Love you, Papa.
What was he in prison for?
Another ass.
And you really think he was mob-related?
He had to be, right?
He was, because I heard some of his phone calls.
You know what's head?
I'm like this.
So, you know, I wanted to know it, yeah, you know.
How much time did he do?
Well, I don't know how much time.
I know he left me.
He stayed with me for like about three months, and then he was gone, you know.
Beds took him, maybe, or?
I really don't know the case, like I said, stuff like when you were dealing with them,
you don't want to be too nosy about now.
You think he's still alive now?
He could be, you know.
He must have been older than you, right?
All right.
Say if I was, just give a take.
Say if I was about 25.
Yeah, there's no way he's alive.
No, see if I was, no, you can't say that.
Because if I'm 25, say if I was around
25, around 26
that time, he was like
in his, what, maybe 40s?
So he still could be alive.
How old are you now?
I don't know.
All right, go.
Now, back to the lab.
What are we on the shower story now?
We got the shower story. You ready?
Ooh, strapping, give people a warning.
Oh, man.
What are we in store for?
No, no, but before I tell you that, some of the guys know back in the day,
guys used to come to jail and they'd be hungry.
They eat anything.
And this is not good.
This is not good at all.
They would eat anything, son.
I mean, they used to give out bread and butter and with the jelly,
and they'd be fiending like they never had a meal in their life, you know?
And they'd be tearing that up.
But then you got these kids that always want to play practical jokes on somebody.
And it really wasn't a good joke.
And this, they used to give you sandwiches, peanut butter and everything, just plain bitter, peanut butter.
But then you got those real-ass buckets that going to do something like this.
Hurry up, eat this sandwich before the CEO come.
and the M.A.
Hurry up, because you know you're not pulling behind it,
and you're biting into it.
Hurry up now.
Hurry up in here before a seal come.
And they'll have stuff now.
And then realize,
you're not biting into no peanut butter.
You just bit into your worst nightmare.
A shit sandwich.
And the Roma goes like shit,
if you don't know until you start to smell it,
and you go like,
yeah.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, see you.
By that time, that smell, that butt-ass,
producing, anything going up in your nose.
Your mouth is poor ass.
That's a poor ass.
Come back the mouth.
That boy got the ass mouth.
They call him junk mouth, because he don't brush the teeth.
You know what you?
I'm telling you.
So, that's the way.
I felt for that boy.
He tried a bit milk on in his mouth,
spit in it out,
I try to brush the tongue off.
I don't care what you do.
That shit is stuck in your mouth.
As well,
especially with the milk?
Mm.
Oh, God, I don't even think about it.
Then look, look, he got to swallow it like there.
So he always ate something like,
mm.
Just some magic swallow it.
Sick.
God, dad.
My, you truly ate some ass.
Oh, God.
No more for that.
God, man.
That was a, that was the one to make you sing.
I shot the sheriff, but I didn't shoot the dead, buddy.
You know what I said?
I'll tell you, straight up, out of this world.
But let me tell you something, man.
Like I said, you take the good with.
the bad.
And one time,
I went on vacation.
And when I came back,
you know,
before I left, my house was running great.
I mean, great.
Automatic. Nothing happening.
Everybody know they position.
So I come back.
I'm cracking the cell. I know who I left in charge.
Of course, the CO's in charge.
But we got them senior inmates that did
that's, feel like they're running shit.
So I crack his cell with my man.
I'm joking the cell for him to come out.
Come on, time to work.
I'm back from vacation.
Female said, he brought.
I said, what?
He said, your man ain't the man no more.
What?
Your man ain't running nothing no more.
What do you mean?
He ain't running nothing no more.
You see, he ain't coming out his cell.
I joke your cell ear on.
He ain't coming out.
I'm like,
All right, let me go on down.
I walk down the tear, my boy in the bed, Ian.
I'm looking at him like, yo, what's up?
He's like, he wants me coming to cell.
Come here.
I said, yo, what's going on, man?
What happened?
You said, yo, E, man.
You said, since you've been gone,
this guy Blue came down here, man.
He got 25 of life.
And I was on the phone and he pulled out one of them things.
And he backed me down.
And he said, you ready to die for this Jack?
And he said,
I ain't done for no check.
I'm trying to go home.
I ain't ready to die for no phone.
I said, all right, I'm going to take care.
So I go out his cell and the phone usually be hanging on the wall.
And I look.
And Eon, the phone ain't on the wall.
So I'm like, yo, where my phone?
So I'm looking at the officer, you got my phone up in there?
She was like, no.
Now, if she ain't got it and he ain't got it,
I've been working in jail long enough.
If she ain't got it and he ain't got it,
who you think got that phone?
The inmate blue.
So I go to a cell, bang on the door,
boom, boom, boom, yo.
He had like he don't hear me.
And I'm hitting it hard.
I know he hit me.
So I turned around like when the inmates is Revolute and I kick his cell.
Bang, bang, bang.
Yo!
Get up.
He jumped up.
Who that?
I said, E-Boh, man.
You got my jack?
He said, oh, man.
And he goes like this, he, on the pillow.
And he pulled out of phone.
Digger had my phone.
Linger sleeping with my phone, son.
He'd get up and slide the phone under the door.
Here, man.
I got the phone.
I said, y'all grown-ass man,
you'll let this nigger take the phone from y'all.
Not only take the phone,
y'all let him take it in itself.
Sleep with it.
I said, well, I'm back now,
and I'm running the phone.
So come on, y'all, come on, use the phone.
You know, you know, nobody wanted to come out to use the phone.
Because Blue's standing on the gate like this,
waiting to see who come on the floor like an eagle,
A hawk.
Waiting for somebody.
So then I said,
all right.
Now, I'm running the phone.
You know I'm back now.
You know I don't play that.
So if you don't get it now,
you're dead.
You ain't going to get it later because I'm going to tell my partner's not to run in on
y'all later.
They said, forget now.
Now they're coming.
So blew on the gate just watching everybody.
Yeah, y'all better get on now because when he's running here,
you already knew what's going to happen.
So I'm just looking at a nigger.
I ain't saying nothing.
He's talking shit to them.
they get on the phone.
Now it's child time.
Child time, yon, everybody comes out to go eat lunch.
So they get the phone call,
lean, e-bronn, get ready to run the house out to child.
I'm like, okay.
Now, this is the regular housing area.
Like I said, sometimes the bean get closed down
for one reason or another.
So now I'm ready.
So all of a sudden, I say 20 minutes,
get ready for child.
They're like, okay, okay.
Everybody getting ready, you know.
10 minutes we're walking out.
So, you know, open the gate.
Let someone upstairs.
They, you know, they go upstairs and they wait upstairs.
They're going up.
Now, everybody's gone.
Blue never came out of his cell.
I'm like, yo, Blue, what's thinking of you talking about?
And we're walking out.
You, Ian, you know what this took.
Blue come out of his cell.
Butta-ass naked.
Well, Tau talking about I'm getting in the shower.
What you mean you getting in the shower?
I'm getting in the shower.
I don't go eat until I take a...
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Y'all go ahead.
I'll catch up with you.
What the hell been going on since I've been gone?
Don't tell me going with your catch up?
Man, you better go on and go on yourself and get dressed.
I'm getting in the shower.
He walks in the shower, you know.
I'm standing right there like I'm looking at you like,
oh, no, he did.
He walked in the shower on me.
And I looked at my partner,
now it's 100 degrees outside.
Now, if it's 100 degrees outside,
there's like 115 in jail or 120.
And I mean, I'm sweating already,
and I went to that shower area,
and I looked at him,
and he got the, he's like,
uh-huh, uh-huh.
And I looked at my partner and my partner,
and said, E-Bron, I know that look.
And that look ain't no good.
I know what you're going to do.
And I watched him.
And once he put that soap all over his face,
I opened that shower door,
and I was right behind his ass.
And that water was hitting me.
Now I'm getting all wet,
and the water all hit me all in my face.
I'm in the shower with him.
My uniform getting all soaked up and anything.
And I'm breathing on his.
neck like he my bitch
because I'm zoned the fuck out
because I know what's getting me happen
and soon when he turned around
and when he turned around
and he went like this
where he's ragged the wife was soap off
he said
yo and man he was on and popping
in that motherfucker
me and he was on and popping
when I tell you on and popping
I mean on and popping
you know we was on and popping
let me tell you something young
We was on and popping so much.
We were scrapping.
Scrapping, man.
And dudes know, and that shower with the state soap
and you fighting, there's no ground leverage.
Me and him were slipping and sliding.
Slide, slide, slippity slide.
Fighting our ass off.
And all of a sudden, he went down,
and I grabbed him by his nuts,
and I had dick and balls in my hand.
I had dick and balls.
And he was like, ah!
Ah!
Like, yeah, me, dude, come on.
Come on, let's go.
He said, yo, see how?
You're fucked up?
You're all.
No, you fucked up.
He said, my name is blue.
My name is blue.
I said, my name is E-Bong, nigga.
My name is E-Born.
I had his nut and balls.
And every time he tried to talk, I squeeze him more.
He goes, ah!
Ah!
And I've got in the mouth to shower now.
Had his digging balls in my hand.
holding him like this, like that movie Friday,
when he had the vice grips on his nuts.
And I'm going, every time he tried to talk, I scream it.
Ah!
All of a sudden, the captain came down,
and the captain came down and saw me all wet up.
And I had blue dick and balls in my hand like this.
And he looked at me, he said, oh, my God, I'm out of here.
And he went the other way.
And I walked through Blue to his cell, and Blue was like,
I'm going there.
Every time we say I'm going, I go.
Ha!
He goes, I'm going.
He can't talk.
Shut up.
Shut up.
And I grabbed him.
And when I got to his cell,
I sweeped him like Snoop Dogg a bit of a scoop in the cell.
Slide it like a bowling ball.
He slid in his cell.
Woo!
Slid himself like this.
Look, look.
Buddy ass.
Buddy ass.
Look, buddy ass.
Like he was on a skateboard.
He was getting on his ass in between the bed.
Like that.
right?
So he jumped up.
He jumped up.
He said,
Hey, boy,
I'm going to get you.
I'm going to get you.
I said, okay,
well, we're going to get each other there.
I said,
bring your ass upstairs.
So he came upstairs and shit.
And when he came upstairs,
now it's a big,
it's like alarm.
We're in a long status.
Because he's helped up the feeding.
So you got like about
150 inmates
lined up on that side.
another 150 in the hallway.
We're backing up child time and everything.
So we get to the control by the lunch
and Blue came down screaming.
I'm going to get you, Ebron.
I'm going to get you.
And then when he come up to where the debt is,
he said, Ebron, I'm going to kill you.
When I see you in New York, I'm going to kill you.
So the Depp said, hold up.
Did you just say you're going to kill my officer, Ebron?
I'm going to kill Ebron.
I'm going to kill Ebron.
Don't worry about that.
name, man.
Just said, no, Ebro, no.
You got to learn.
Let me tell you something about Blue.
Blue think everybody
supposed to be scared of him
because he got 25 to life.
So he think everybody
supposed to be scared of him.
What I want you to do, Ebron,
go in my office, get a two from,
write a statement that Blue said
he was going to kill you
when he see you in New York.
So I'm like, no, no, he said,
no, he said, no, go do it and do it now.
Defeating, no, every step.
Nobody moving nowhere until you get to do it.
The office was down the hall.
I hurry up, went scribble that.
I said here, Depp.
What the Debt Andrews did, he held it up the ear so all the inmates can see that was in the hall.
He said, you see this two from?
He said, this two from gives Ebron the right to blow Blue head off on sight when he's seeing him when he come home.
Because Blue said he was going to kill him.
The whole hall got quiet.
Even Blue got quiet.
And I just looked at Blue.
I ain't think nothing of it.
Blue got quiet.
He said, okay, y'all go ahead.
Walk him back.
Now, me and Blue walking back to the house.
I'm right next to him, you know.
I'm like this because I don't like leaving no job undone.
So we're going to get it on.
We're going to get it on right there.
You know what I'm saying?
We're going to finish this right here.
But Blue didn't say nothing to me.
Not a word.
He just kept walking.
We walked to the housing area.
He ate his food.
we came down, he went to his cell, he said, lock me in.
I didn't have no problem from Blue for the, he was with me for like another month and a half.
He never came out when I was there.
Never said a word to me.
I walked by a lookout.
Hey, Blue, what's up?
Come his head like that.
He covered his head, you know what I'm saying?
With the great blanket.
It's all good.
Right?
Now, I'm retired.
I'm coming home.
On New Lots Avenue,
I'm in my car, me and my lady.
Who do I see, y'all?
Who do I see?
I see blue.
Blue at the bus stop with the plastic bag
coming home from up north.
Man, I spent my car around like I just robbed the bank.
You can hear the tire spinning.
My lady don't know what going on.
She going like this.
He's holding on.
Look.
I pull up the bus stop.
I jumped out of the car.
I picked my hand on my cat.
I was like,
yeah, what's that, Blue?
He looked at me.
I said, what's up, man?
He said,
yo, what's up, man?
I don't know you.
I said, you don't know me.
Nah, I just came home.
Yeah, I know you just came home.
Yo, but see,
I'm just on my way to go see my lady.
I don't want no problems, man.
I just came home.
I just touched down, man.
I know you did, Blue.
You know my name.
Where I know you from?
So I got close to him.
When I got close to him, people were at the bus stop.
I guess they thought we was bugging.
I was bugging.
They moved away.
I said C-74 at war, nigger.
And then Blue said, then I said, E-Born.
He went like this, E-on, you wouldn't believe it.
I can't even.
He said, E-Born.
E-Born.
Oh, I love you.
You, what?
He said,
Ebo, oh, I love you, man.
To me, you love me last year.
You said, you're going to kill me.
What are you talking about?
He said, man, when I went up north,
and I told them dudes who I had beef with him,
he said, them dudes up north let me have it.
I said, what?
He said, man, they let me have it.
He said, after they let me have it,
I couldn't say nothing to bad about you at all.
They were like, nah, that's my dude.
You can't say nothing about EPO.
He said, man, I didn't have a leg to stand on.
I said, well, he said, yeah, man.
He said, and I apologize.
I said, no, no, no, no, he apologized.
He said, yo, we was a kid back then, so you got to forgive.
I said, all right.
I said, yo, Blue, you know what?
Thug in my pocket.
A couple dollars, you're here, man.
Yo, here, man, I know you just coming home.
We need a little head start.
He got a little something, man.
He was like, I said, Blue, you need a job?
He said, yeah.
I don't need a job, too.
Give me your phone number, man.
We have charged phone numbers.
He said, he's wrong?
He said, I can't believe this.
I said, what?
He said, I come home.
I almost died, and I get a job, too.
At the same time, I said, yeah.
He said, man, I love you, man.
I can't believe this.
We hugged each other here on.
And I seen them a couple of times.
I seen them a couple of times after that.
You know what I'm saying?
But everything was good, Eon.
Everything was good, man.
What a great ending.
Yeah, yeah.
Everything was good.
What a wild story.
Yes, man.
Out of all those you told today, which one's your favorite?
You know, the Italian.
I was, I used to say that.
We got to find that guy.
Yeah, Italian, you know.
If anyone knows who this guy is.
Yes, please step up.
That would be cool to have him on the show with you.
Yeah, yes.
You know, I want Pussy, but Pussy, he's, I've been watching Pussy on
He'd be on somebody else channel.
The actor that played pussy?
Yeah.
But he, he even said it on his own.
He said, man, I've been through so much drugs and stuff.
I don't remember shit no more.
So I said, you know, we did it.
Hey, were you the guard when Lilo Broncato from a Bronx tale was in Rikers?
Somebody called me.
I had just left, yeah.
Okay, because I had Mr. Baste on who was, did you?
My partner, the one I call out Babbin.
Yeah.
We was talking about him yesterday.
Did you know about Jason Itzer, the king of all pimps?
I had him.
He's a guy that's been in my video shirtless.
Yeah, I saw.
He was at Rikers with Lila.
Yeah, I saw that episode.
Yeah, that's, were you there when he was there?
No, uh-uh.
Uh-uh.
Wow.
That was exciting, you know?
For real, man.
Incredible.
For real, man.
But, uh, C-O, thanks for another ultimate episode, man.
You got it, man.
You got it.
What are the people got to look forward to on the next?
next one.
Surprise.
That's all I got to
take.
Maybe the 52
pickup.
Surprise.
I'm not going to
say none.
They're going to
get that one.
Surprise.
Do you want to
sing a little
farewell soprano
song to close it out?
Excuse me.
This is for you.
Dun
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no
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hey
pussy
No, no, no, no.
No, no,
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