Locked In with Ian Bick - Rikers Island Prison Guard Reveals The INSANE Conditions | Leroy Ebron Pt 2

Episode Date: May 2, 2024

The Viral Rikers Island Prison Guard is back for an action packed part 2. Big thanks to FACTOR for sponsoring this episode. Head to FACTORMEALS.com/lockedin50 and use code lockedin50 to get 50% off ...your first box plus 20% off your next month while your subscription is active! Watch part 1 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Km9Q7ED-WU Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Creative direction, design, assets, support by FWRD: https://www.fwrd.co Buy Merch: https://lockedinbrand.com Use code lockedin at checkout to get 20% off your order Timestamps: 00:00:00 - TikTok Sensation Leroy Ebron on Becoming a Viral Star 00:03:55 - The Challenges of Incarceration 00:07:38 - Support and Lift Each Other Up 00:11:19 - The Incident 00:15:02 - A Shocking Discovery 00:19:19 - Fueling up with Factor's No Mess Meals 00:23:14 - The Humiliation of Inmates 00:27:27 - A Wild Incident 00:36:09 - Treating Inmates Like Human Beings 00:44:09 - Corruption in every job and the 52 Pickup 00:48:01 - The Wrong Person Arrested 00:55:48 - Saving a Life 01:00:08 - Shoutouts, Inspiration, and Gratitude 01:03:42 - Birthday Celebrations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You know why he don't want to pull his drawers down? Because, there goes another rubber tree. Oop there goes another rubber tree. Oop there goes another robber tree, plan. He doesn't do it in his pants. Welcome back to the Locked-in with Ian Bick podcast. On today's episode, we have the one you have all been waiting for and asking for
Starting point is 00:00:30 Correctional Officer Leroy Ebron, the infamous Rikers Island Correctional officer, who went absolutely viral on TikTok just a couple months ago on this platform when he came on the show. Almost 19 million views on that clip of him talking about butt ass and badozy. So get ready for this exciting action-packed part two that I've promised you guys. Leroy was kind enough to not do an interview on any other platform just to give us these exclusive stories. And I can't wait to share them with you today. Now, before we get into this action-packed episode, I need to give a huge shout out to Factor,
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Starting point is 00:01:40 Wow. What a journey it has been for you. You were in this seat a month ago. Yes. A little over a month, maybe a month in a week. You came up here on a Saturday. You sat down and you told your story of becoming a Rikers Island CEO, working in the Bing.
Starting point is 00:01:57 You gave us just a taste, which is shocking. It was just a taste after what happened. I mean, I don't think either one of the first. us knew that you were going to be one of the most viral sensations on social media, 16.4 million views on that TikTok. Wow, wow, you know. Sick, I mean, you've been telling me, we talk almost every day. People are recognizing you.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Like, how does that feel? Listen, it feels great, you know, because the reason why I've been doing is trying to reach out to the people in the younger and the older generations not to go to jail because jail ain't the place to be. And if this is what it takes to reach out to do it, I'm all for it because the things that I've seen do, seen and been through in the system you wouldn't even believe. So that's why I want to thank all the, from the 70s all the way now, all the rappers, you know, that made the songs and stuff because music, not that they beats, but music do come the savage beats.
Starting point is 00:03:05 And reason why I say that, because of their music, believe it or not, it helped a lot of situations in jail calm down. You know, back then, they didn't want you to, they had these little AMFM radios when I started, and they didn't let them listen to it, but they'd be like, shh, shh, and you got to move it side to side. You, E. Braun, we can't hear it. So I decided to bring my own boombacks. I was a regular radio Raheen in that bitch.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I put a boom box in there, boom. Whoa. Eric B. clapped your hands at this. You know what I'm saying? Slick, six minutes, six minutes. Six minutes. Six minutes, you know, and it's funny because that's how much time they had on that phone. Six minutes.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Because when I started, they had it by a digital. A timer. You had to twist it. And once that six minutes is over, hey, the time for you to get off the phone. Six minutes. That's right. Incredible. You know, and back then they had Walkmans, you know.
Starting point is 00:04:10 And Walkmans play the music that all the rappers and, you know, DJ, they end. You know, it's helping their time because in there, if you ain't got no Walkman, you can read all the books you want or whatever, but after a while, you're just looking at the next dude. He's just another swinging dick to you. You and him look at each other, look at each other. Ain't nothing to do. Sometimes they didn't have no checkets, no chest. All of that came later.
Starting point is 00:04:40 All that came later, you know what I'm saying? They get a newspaper, two new paper for each side. You got two inmates on that side. What two inmates? What two newspapers are going to do for all these guys? They all can't read two new, no. What they're going to give up here? You take a page.
Starting point is 00:05:00 You take a page. Yo, that's why it was so crazy. in there. They didn't have nothing really to do. So when they want to go to wreck or something, let them go. Social service, let them go. But a lot of people wasn't letting them go. And when you don't let them go, that's when they rise and still start. I mean, I can't imagine what you've seen over 22 years in, in that environment. And I think something that makes this dynamic so special, you being on the show, which you're now going to be a series regular of Locked In, is that unlike most of the guests that go viral,
Starting point is 00:05:42 you haven't done any other interviews. You've done whatever you did before you came on the show. Right. But then you've gotten interviews from the biggest podcasters in the country. Yes, yes. And you told them no. No, I'm good. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:05:56 And I think this is going to be a very fascinating dynamic that locked in, this podcast, me and you, we go through this exclusive thing, you know, making content once a month because it just keeps it so, like, you can't, the stories you're going to share now, every month from now, and expand on over your time, over 22 years. Yes, yes. And I think the audience is going to be happy to hear that, too, that, you know, Leroy Ebron isn't going anywhere, CEO. Yeah, you know, because believe me, by me doing this, my ma'am, Shannon Briggs, we've recently. out to me. Shannon Briggs is a former
Starting point is 00:06:35 heavyweight championship of the world. Him and Mike Tyson, both of them, are building the gym on Picking Avenue in Brooklyn, picking in Watkins. And it's something big, and we need that. You know? We need that. Like upcoming boxes, Bruce Carrington,
Starting point is 00:06:54 it's Sun Tsu that I want you to meet one day. I would tell you about you. These are people that's up and coming that can help the community. And we need stuff like that. So I love Mike for that. You know, I knew Mike when he was young and I was young. And I knew one of his close friends.
Starting point is 00:07:10 And I had a job on Picking Avenue. And I was working on picking and Amboy working at a shoe store. I was only one with a suit ride in a motorcycle in Brownsville. One twenty-five motorcycle, word up. You know? And he came in the store, and he was with Mike. And he was walking up the block. And he was like, yo, look.
Starting point is 00:07:31 He's a fighter. I remember Mike going like this, show me it more. You know? And it's crazy because that's the last time I ever saw Mike or my friend, you know. So, you know, because time move on. They went and did what they do. And I went on my way. But I want you to support them just like everybody's supporting you.
Starting point is 00:07:52 We need this. We got to help each other like a crab in the bucket. You see somebody try to lift them up. Don't throw them back down. A lot of people like us, they, they, they, throwing us down and I ain't going down. You ain't going down. How'd I reckon say it?
Starting point is 00:08:07 How you say it? All the way up. We're going all the way up. Cali, all the way up. Fat Joe, all the way up. Bust the ride, 50 cent, all the way up. We're all the way up. Now, as funny as that TikTok was,
Starting point is 00:08:22 obviously there was hateful comments about how people, you know, they were saying that it wasn't right, that we focused and we were laughing about how a woman's prison smelled, but we did talk about the men's prison before that, and we're going to get more into that today. But I just wanted to say to the audience and the listeners that... It was nothing funny about that. Well, that clip went more viral than any of these politicians talking about prisons than anyone that's trying to raise awareness. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:50 What you did was powerful. 16.4 million people saw how the inmates on Rikers Island are being treated. That's how you create change in today's world. That's how you do it. you said, a lot of times when they want the news people to come in there, it's fake. You know, it's fake. It's staged. But see, people like me, and they know they're coming, make sure Ebrook don't need a house.
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Starting point is 00:09:59 Number one, they don't want me no insight. Straight up. Keep Ebrong where he had. It got so bad for me when the jail had open forms and I would get open forms where all the CEOs are going there and tell them how they feel and what's going on, what they don't like. But what happened with me? When I went to an open form, what was open form like I told you?
Starting point is 00:10:28 Tell what you feel. Tell what you don't like. Tell what's going on. Tell what's on your mind. But when I did it, E. Young, never forget, Warren Robertson to tell you,
Starting point is 00:10:46 Depp Andrews is all. I'm going to tell you, I raised my hand like that, and we got like two, 300 officers in there at the open for them. I'm in the front. Once again, anybody else got something to say?
Starting point is 00:11:00 I'm like this. They're looking over me once again. Once again, they don't want to hear nothing for me. Until my warden Robinson, say, Ebrook, okay, everybody's in your hands up. What do you have to say? And I stand up and I say, listen, all of your talking stuff you're talking is irrelevant.
Starting point is 00:11:32 All you're doing is putting down off. Y'all need to be lifting us up. I said, you see that Depp over there? That Depp over there? He came in my housing area trying to belittle me. Trying to belittle me. Don't you know what I wanted to do to him? Y'all ever saw that movie, that movie The Mummy,
Starting point is 00:11:52 when he opened his mouth. That's why I wanted to do to him. Eat your ass up, boy. Who you talking? talking to. And the whole place went crazy. They went crazy. They start stomping.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Boom, boom, boom, boom. You thought you was at the Yankees game. And they said, hold up, hold on, hold up. Take him out of here. They took me out of there. And on the way out of the war and said, everybody give me people on a hug. I think you need a hug.
Starting point is 00:12:23 No, I don't need no hug. I'm here to let you all know what it is. And then the next time they had to open for him, I said, okay, I'm going. When I went to go in, they had the captains block it. I'm trying to walk into the auditorium. I'm like, yo, what's your doing, man? Yo, he's going.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I'm like, yo, what's up? Yo, man. We don't know how to tell you this. Tell me what? They don't want you in there. What you mean? They don't want me in there. Last time, Yon must start a whole melee.
Starting point is 00:12:57 And they said, if you got anything you want to see, DeWon said you can come see him personally. but they don't want you up in here. And they wouldn't let me in open phone. They wouldn't let me in open phone. And then when all the other officers saw me stand out the door, they were like, yo, what's that, what's up? I was like, they said I can't come in.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Then it was like, oh, shit, yeah. And then when I went to go see the war, and he was laughing. He said, Ebo, and I was turning it up. You're going to turn it up. Anything you want to see, just tell me, I'll take you. but you turning it up. We couldn't control him after you got finished.
Starting point is 00:13:39 So I said, all right, it is what it is. Just hear what I got to say and that's it. You know, and he was fair. He heard what I had to say, and he's done what I asked him to do. You know, he's done what I asked him to do. So, you know, but I'm going to tell you, that jail experience is like nothing you want to see. And the episode we did, it wasn't meant to be funny about the females.
Starting point is 00:14:09 You know, if you've got offended, I'm apologized for that. But it's nothing to be apologized because I'm just being for real. I'm just telling you what I went through. And it's not over. I mean, CO, tell us and show us, because you have props with us today. Yes. Why, exactly, not only the male, but why the female prison on Rikers Island smells so bad. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Now, females remind you. I'm talking about the 80s. I'm not talking about 9. I wasn't in the 80s. When I say OJT, I was in there for OJT. For those that don't know what that mean, that's on-the-job training. And I was only in it for one day, thank God.
Starting point is 00:14:47 One day, I'll tell you, if they would have me another day, I would have to sign out. Because that butt-ass. I would sign out. It wasn't even a butt-ass. It was the podossi. It was the podusi.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I was just talking to a doctor a few minutes ago. And the doctor told me, ain't nothing like that producey smell he said ain't nothing like that producing smell he said
Starting point is 00:15:09 he knows because he said that lingers it all it follows you like that movie the fog straight up
Starting point is 00:15:20 not to be funny for a will and that's just a little bit now I'm going to tell you like I said whether nothing to be funny I'm just giving you the raw
Starting point is 00:15:28 normal facts of life so it's about to get heated right here so if you can't Take the heat, turn the channel. But I don't want you to turn the channel because I want you to stay locked in.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Because locked in is locked in. And I'm going to give you a little piece of me. So before I do that, I want you to screw your wig on tight. You all ready? How did it say? Now get ready for the big dole on mic. And I'm talking about this.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I'm going to carry you on my shoulders now. Walk with me, y'all. You got my shoulders? You're looking through my eyes. These are my eyes back in the 80s when I walked into the women's barracks. You ready? You ready? There's nothing funny.
Starting point is 00:16:20 How they said nothing funny but the money? This is not funny, y'all. But when I walked in, just like the men hang up, they draws when they wash them, I walked in the woman barracks, and this is what I seen. good God of mighty good God and mighty you wouldn't want this on your worst enemy and I said captain
Starting point is 00:16:45 what the hell is this what's going on and she said she looked at me she said listen just like you all run out of toilet paper the woman run out of cortex if they ain't got no common savvy to buy none
Starting point is 00:17:01 and they ain't got nobody to bring nothing in for them they got to hang them up and wash them they tried to rewatch them she called it remixed only remix I know is when you remixed in the record
Starting point is 00:17:14 I ain't never heard no remix in no context and this is the worst smell I tell you I was like oh oh and one female said
Starting point is 00:17:28 what you open about and she was a big six five Felix Felix the cat looking one And I was like, oh my God, you don't know who feelings the cat is? Google it.
Starting point is 00:17:42 And I was like, I was in, how did they say? I was in awe. Oh. And she said, you say that again. I slapped this bloody pad all in your face. I was like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Remember, I'm new.
Starting point is 00:17:57 I got the sky blue shirt on. I ain't ready for this. And all I can picture, she's slapping that bloody pad in my face. And I used to DJ, you know. And it's And it's all over your face And for real That's all I was thinking about
Starting point is 00:18:16 You know And then, you know The other girls said, Cookie, what's wrong? This new Jack over here acting like some stang Like something stang They're immune to that shit I'm not immune to that shit
Starting point is 00:18:31 Some do sting But let me tell you, I'm from Brownsville Never ran, never will That's the saying we got. But let me let me let you know. When she talked about slapping that bloody pad in my face, our old record came in my back of my brain. Then with something like this, you got to know when to hold up, no when to fold up, no when to back up, no when to run. I backed the hell up out of there. I got up out of there. I saw the captain and I just slid
Starting point is 00:19:04 behind the captain. Screeed up. I got a little bit. I got a little bit. I got a guy. I got a guy. I got a guy. I got a. I got a out of that, bass. No. No. Not all over your face. Not me. Not me. Not me. I can't stand the smell, man. It's all in my face. Oh, God. No. No. And this is what I'm saying. This is how nasty it was. And this is in the 80s. I pray to God things have changed now. They had cortex back then. now they got tampons, I guess. You know, more up to date. And I'm playing in guard that is not like that no more.
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Starting point is 00:21:46 off your first box plus 20% off your next month. That's code Locked in 50 at FactorMeals.com slash locked in 50 to get 50% off your first box and 20% off your next box while your subscription is. active. Now let's get back into this episode with Leroy Ebron. Now, Leroy, a lot of life and a lot of what we're judged on as individuals is our actions, what we do, but also at the same token, our inactions have a big effect on us and who we are as individuals. And I saw a lot of the comments and people were curious about what your response was. And if you were, if you sat idle or if you tried to make a change to that environment or what you could do,
Starting point is 00:22:33 or even on the perspective, I know you're only in there for a day, if you were there now and this situation was to happen again, what you would do to show what type of man you are. Yo, just like what's doing, I would, man, I would publicize this to the fullest max, because it's not right, man. It's not right, bro. You don't want your worst enemy to be. that could be your sister, your mother, your aunt.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Living in no conditions, you don't want that. You don't want that. I don't want that for nobody, you know? Believe me, that, that is rolling my mind and I'm retired. Nightmares in the night, nightmare. For real. It sticks to your brain. So females, like I said,
Starting point is 00:23:30 this is to up to date you on what went on when I was there. Pray the girl, like I said, it's not there no more. But I'm not finished. I got one for you. That was one for the woman to woman. Thank you. Don't get locked up.
Starting point is 00:23:46 You see why it could end up to. You don't want to wind up like that. They shouldn't be doing that no more. But just to show you, they were scrubbing the pads with the state soap. This is called state soap. And they will scrub it, the panties. And then I actually seen them wing it out to try to get it brand new all over again.
Starting point is 00:24:09 So I've seen the blood come between their fingers and anything. And they're looking at me. Ian, I got out of here, boy. I couldn't take that. I couldn't take that. That was something. So to ease up on a woman, like I said, not to be funny or nothing, but it got to be shared.
Starting point is 00:24:28 It got to know. That's what it is. You know, and I see a lot of my friends out there, they laugh. Yo, e, yo, e. I said, nigga, I said, but let me tell you something. You can't front. Because I saw when you came in there. And you had the butt-ass.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And they were, oh, you eat, no, no. Matter of fact, what? I'm going to show you how your butt-ass was. You think I'm playing? I think I'm playing. Excuse me, Ian. You're good, CO. I got something for you.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Ben, you think you want to make fun of the females. Just pull that a hair closer, C.O. Your microphone? I did? No, your microphone. You can push it a little? There you go, C.O. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:18 You think you want to make fun of the females? And this is not making fun of nobody. This is to make awareness. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Yeah. You ready? Now, I'm talking about Skid Row. I'm talking about Skid Row.
Starting point is 00:25:43 You don't want to know what Skid Row is. For those that don't know, these are the dudes that just get locked up and they thought they were badass. They robbing everything in sight. But when they get off that Rackett's Island bus and we take them in the receiver rule and we take them in the script search,
Starting point is 00:26:03 script. Open your mouth. Roll off. Roll off your finger on. your mind. Now squat. To squat, you'll see you a long. I don't want to you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:19 can I talk to you for a minute? Okay, yo, what's up? But then you got somebody over me. Yo, E.Born, we got time for that. Make them drop his drawers. Yo, drop your drawers, son. Mm.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Skid rope. Skid, This skid row and they drools. This is how scared they are. Coming over that Rackets Island bridge. Skid row. You see it? And this is light.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Y'all know who y'all. Skid row. This is racetracks in your drawers. But you're bad. You're a bad, ma'ammer. But you come into here with race tracks and your drawers. And that's not the worst. of him. Now you get the one
Starting point is 00:27:27 where he refuses to take his draws off. I'm not taking my drawers off. Y'all going to have to beat me down. Y'all going to have to beat me down. I don't care. Beat you down?
Starting point is 00:27:43 Now they surround him. He's see he ain't got no wins. And you know why he don't want to pull his drawers down? Because there goes and now the rub. tree. There goes another rubber tree. Oop there goes another rubber tree plant.
Starting point is 00:28:01 He doesn't shit it in his pan. Now he got an option. Take that shit in the drawers and throw it in the garbage or just shake it off and put it back on. That's his option. He's throwing in the trash can over there or shake it out
Starting point is 00:28:24 and throw him in the garbage can. Straight up. That's no way to live That's no way to live That's not the worst of it that I've seen That's just a little like I told Ian That's just a little bit A little taste of honey
Starting point is 00:28:45 See I'll just pull that up closer to you again A little taste of honey Ain't nothing funny But I'm gonna tell you something man You know I don't like sharing this because see every time I tell you some like I told you before
Starting point is 00:29:07 when I tell you a story about my life in there I always go back to the hour, minutes and second that it happened I don't know is that a gift or curse because it takes me back to that incident and this day they had me I was working overtime
Starting point is 00:29:27 and they put me in this module and I mean this module was going crazy He had like 60 inmates on one side, 60 on the other side. Some of the inmates know who I am. They're like, oh, that's Ebroon. He works in the being. What he's doing here?
Starting point is 00:29:45 Oh, I'm just doing overtime, yo. Yo, Ebrook ain't no joke. Other dudes, I don't know him. I don't know him. I don't know him. I'm going for you. He's just another CEO. I hear all this shit.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I don't care. You, let him see what they want. But all the sudden, shit starts going wild. Start going left. They're jumping from bed. the bed, like they at a zoo or something, like the monkey jumping from
Starting point is 00:30:12 hanging on the line, from the mall, jumping from bed to bed. I'm like, and I'm looking at the steady officers, and they're in the bubble and they're just looking. Like they're looking at a motherfucking movie. They're not saying stop, you'll stop, not to try to stop them of nothing, but
Starting point is 00:30:28 I'm in the middle. I'm on the floor, and I'm looking at them because it's their house, they don't respect them. But you're going to respect me. Because everybody know where I really work in the Bing. I'm only here on overtime. But these guys don't know me. And they as acting a fool.
Starting point is 00:30:47 And the moment I said, okay, I'm already put my foot down. I hear somebody scream. Ah! See you! And Ian, when I turned around, I couldn't see the inmate, but he was screaming. Ah! Because he had his back face me. Ah! screaming. I could just imagine. So I ran up to him, and everybody
Starting point is 00:31:12 running in the way. And he's screaming, but he's looking the opposite direction. So I grab him. I see, yo, what's going on? And I grab him by his head and his face to turn him around. No one help me. Ian, they do 190 water on him. We have these coffee containers that they have in 7-11, the lower one of ones,
Starting point is 00:31:38 about four feet long, full of hot 190. one of him it took it and threw it on him all of his face so when I grabbed his face to turn him around my hands melted in his motherfucking face and he's screaming and I seen him out he said
Starting point is 00:31:55 ah I said ah we both screaming but my hands is met within this motherfucking face and I'm like oh my God and I just grab him and I'm watching him to the gate to the officers and they're still looking at me
Starting point is 00:32:10 like they're some fucking a day with dummies. Open the fucking door. Let us in. The moment I get him in, I hear another inmate scream. They don't do it hot, ball and water on him.
Starting point is 00:32:25 So I'm running to him and I'm looking and I always got the people that are doing it. Predator, you're gone. I know what you are. I go run to him. Now I know not to grab him by his face because my hand doesn't.
Starting point is 00:32:41 I got blood and all kinds of shit on my fingers. And I go and I grab him. And he's trying to get to me, but he can't see. He's falling over the beds. So I go and grab him, and I grab him, turn around and look at me. I'm going to tell you all, his eyes was his eyes no more. They had to do the hot water where, as me and you look at each other, it looked like somebody put milk in his eyes.
Starting point is 00:33:28 That's how bad it burned. I still visualize that shit today like it was yesterday. I took him. I took him out the area. These motherfuckers are still going butchirk. The steady officers is in the bubble still watching me doing all this and not coming help and nothing. In my mind, I'm going to get y'all when all this is over.
Starting point is 00:34:04 all of a sudden I hear another rattling these dudes are trying to cut this guy this guy he jumps from one bed to another bed remember we're in a module one bed to another bed
Starting point is 00:34:21 and when he jumped I seen it in me I got him like that movie predator do do do do do do do he go and while he in the ear he cut him bow and may grab his private pile
Starting point is 00:34:36 Oh! And I'm like, oh shit. And I run on him because he's rolling on the bed. And I'm like, yo, yo, I think he got me. Your son, I think he got me. This is not for the weak fanning it. Fain it, so if you can't take it, don't look. When I got to him and he's trying to look down
Starting point is 00:34:59 and I looked down to his drawers, here he goes, half of his nut was in the motherfucking drawls. Half of his motherfucking nut. You tell me I ain't fucked up. Yeah, I'm fucked up. I'm fucked up. Half is nut, y'all. And these motherfuckers'all.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Let me tell you some. Fuck everybody. It's on. It's on. The brothers are with me, everybody from 80s. The knives they know when jail on is on. It's a fable of the fittets in there. Straight up.
Starting point is 00:35:42 When they say only the strong to survive, the only strong survive. And being I'm strong in there, and you're with me, you will survive. If you're under my cover, you will survive. Because I'm going to make sure of that. Because everybody don't feel like I feel. I love the job with corrections because I did it well. The war in the chief, everybody tell you, I did it well, straight up. How they say badge?
Starting point is 00:36:17 We don't need no stinking badges. I ain't need no damn badge. I'm ebonne. I know how to do this. Straight up. There's nothing but love and respect. And a lot of them didn't give the inmates no love, no respect. Remember, you ain't guilty till proven guilty.
Starting point is 00:36:37 But some people don't look at it like that. I did. I'm going to treat you like a human being. even when you're guilty, hey, it's God, the judge you, the judge, that's it. Long as I make sure you went home the same way you came in on my watch, that's what I live by. Me, a job where... Ellie's Eden was created from the same belief that started as your standard.
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Starting point is 00:38:09 How do you handle them? What do you do to them? them inmates get written up they go to the being someone with more charges on them for the crime that they did they get more time added on them some of them don't care
Starting point is 00:38:25 you know some of them don't care I had inmates they got 25 to life yeah a write-up doesn't mean shit to someone with 25 to life you know 25 I walked in Jesus My cousin was locked up
Starting point is 00:38:46 And I went to go see him He was in one of the Marjor areas He was on the midnight tour That's when I was nude still on the wheel And I went to go see him To make sure he was alright He was in one of the Mards And when I went in there
Starting point is 00:39:02 I had some turkey wings My lady cooked with some turkey wings I said, yo I'm going to give my family Some turkey wings Let him have some turkey wings I know even some turkey wings you know and they say oh you're not to pull the brain you know they let them taste nothing yeah i don't sat down and watch wharton's sieves and debts have a half a hibble sandwich and give it to them
Starting point is 00:39:26 so don't tell me none of that bullshit i don't see it all so a little turkey wing ain't gonna hurt my cousin so i'm going to give him some turkey wing now in the module after 10 o'clock the light's supposed to go off So I go in there Lights is off Everybody pulled the beginning of bed But these are adults Adults gonna do what the fuck they want to do If the A officer and B officer's chumps
Starting point is 00:39:54 They ain't gonna respect them So when I go in there Half the motherfucking module is in the back They're all in their back Sitting in the blue chairs The green chairs They're having a little powwow So I'm walking back there
Starting point is 00:40:07 And I hear my cousin say You don't think you want to come back here right now And I'm like, what? Your cause, I don't think you want to come back here right now. Now, I don't know how to take that. You know I'm coming to see you, and you're telling me you don't want me come back there. So now I'm thinking maybe you're in trouble.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Now you know I'm coming. You know I'm coming now. But on my way to them, I hear, mm-mm-mm, mm-hmm, mm-mm. And I look to my right. And I see a bed going like this, like a wave. And all I'm hearing, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And I look, then I look at my cousin back there.
Starting point is 00:40:52 He said, I told you don't come back here right now. And I went, but I said, oh, what's going on? I see your cousin. I said, it'll take a rocket scientist. So he didn't get the turkey wings. Reason why? because I already know shit going down. I walked out.
Starting point is 00:41:16 I went to the bubble. I said, you're all in here sitting on your ass with the lights out, conjugating. Somebody in there getting freight. They were like, what? Yo, E, wait for me, wait for me. I don't belong here.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Let me out of here before you hit those bells. Yo, Ian, the motherfucker. They waited until I hit the top of the stairs and hit the bell. I didn't get out They just wait until I hit the top And when I try to go out The squad was always going to
Starting point is 00:41:46 Yeah, hey, hey, ain't through the old child They come in with their helmet standing And I'm like I'm trying to play it off You're with the alarm at The captain Depp said Ebo, you know it's no alarm Alarm is right where you left from
Starting point is 00:41:59 Where you're going? Come back up here I turn around I say these more bastards And I turn around I go down The lights is still out now I'm walking with the captain in them
Starting point is 00:42:11 and they're like, what's going on? They turn on the lights and they stand over that bed and when they pull that gray blanket off him it was an inmate getting fucked in their ass. They had them hogtied. Let me, the niggas going in on him. Ah!
Starting point is 00:42:33 And he's screaming, yo, you only see shit like that on penitentiary on TV. I see that. this shit in living color. I'm no more than three feet seeing another man being invalidated. And when they pulled a blanket off,
Starting point is 00:43:00 the dude jumped up, I seen the dick, the condom, anything. I seen the shit shoot out his ass. Y'all can't do nothing to me? I got 25 the life. He was a big dude. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:43:17 So they grab him and he like this. Meanwhile, they unhawed tying the dude that he was raping. And then the dude got the whole time He said, What the fuck wrong with you? I ain't no faggot.
Starting point is 00:43:30 And then all that they say, now you're in North everybody ain't going to know about it. And I'm new to all this shit. They don't tell you this in the academy, bro. How did they get a condom? You said he had a condom on?
Starting point is 00:43:43 Condom. How? It's prison. Same way you get a razor. Condom. He had a condom. on. Yo, Ian, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:43:57 I was flabbing at my mind. Yo. So what did you do? It wasn't for me to do nothing because it wasn't in my area. So what they did was they handcuffed them, gave them a new charge, but they ain't over. They handcuffed them and everything. I'm watching the whole shit.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I'm in disbelief. This famous word, aw. But I'm looking at it. let the dude that he raped. I feel sorry for this, I feel sorry for this nigga. Sorry, bro.
Starting point is 00:44:28 I feel tired for the brother. You know what I feel sorry for him. But he's like, it's not over. It's not over. You know, months later, almost about like seven or eight months later,
Starting point is 00:44:44 word got back to me. The kid that raped him, he killed him. The kid that got raped, he killed him up north. when he got up north. To retaliate against him. He killed him.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Why would they put the kid in the same prison? Don't, isn't that... Come on, young. This jail. I've seen crazy shit in that. The system don't care. The system get latched. They get lapsed, man.
Starting point is 00:45:14 I mean, that's how we hear about, like, these mobsters getting whacked and, like, celebrities getting stabbed, like the ones that go for the child offenses. They get lapsed, man. Do you think it's intentional that it gets lapsed? Sometimes it could be. Sometime it could be.
Starting point is 00:45:33 I mean, you were a prison guard. You could, or a correctional officer, you've seen firsthand. Does it get, you know, laxed on intentional? Is there corruption on that level where they'll- Listen, it's corruption in every job out there in the world. Ain't nothing perfect. Ain't nothing perfect. So it could be like that.
Starting point is 00:45:53 It's corruption in everything, man. We're talking about someone's life here. Some people don't care. Some people just get that job to be a CEO so they can feel like they can fuck with somebody. They feel like in power. Like some people come police officers, yeah, I'm a cop now.
Starting point is 00:46:11 I can do what I want. No, you can. No, you can't. But some people let that stuff go to their head. They let it go to their head. Now, CEO, I wouldn't be doing my job correctly today if I didn't ask you this very important question. And I need an honest answer on this.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Go ahead. And the audience wants to know. Let me tell you. What on earth is the 52 pickup? Yeah. Wow. I'm glad you asked me that. You know?
Starting point is 00:46:46 You really want to know? And the 52 pickup is what you explained in our first episode together. Yes. We need to know what exactly is the 52 pickup. And like I said before, if I tell you I got the kid again, you would not, that's straight up, baby. Straight up, baby. You got to give us something. Do the day, brown, brown.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Everyone wants to know, man. That was our opener for the last show. Let them wonder, wonder, wonder, wonder. Give us a little teaser. We want the popcorn nugget out of the chicken tender. That's all we're asking for a one little nugget. I'm not asking for the full tender. You want a nugget?
Starting point is 00:47:23 I want a nugget. Give me the nugget. I want the 52 pickup. Here go to the nugget out there and make pants. We got to get these. That's who you going to get. We got to call somebody to bag this stuff up. You're going to get this nugget right in.
Starting point is 00:47:35 I'm looking at a pile. You're going to get this nugget. Then you want a nugget? Here's on your nugget. I'm looking at a pile. That's what you get. Now that we're so far into this episode, I don't get that what you get.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Can you tell the audience that that is not real blood, the underwear that you have be staring at in this episode? Okay, okay. Because I've been wanting to puke this whole entire time. This, y'all, is a plum. A prune or a plum? A prune, I mean a prune. You drink prune juice?
Starting point is 00:48:06 A prune with ketchup on it. This is a prune, all right? That's why the nut look like, y'all, when it's cracked open, your nuts. You know? If you don't believe me, we got a doctor in the next room. He'll tell you. He's a real doctor. Not no doctor Detroit.
Starting point is 00:48:24 He will do. And this right here This right here You said, oh God He don't brung boo boo Man stole the same underwear out of the joint He's the same underwear He don't bring boo boo boo doo-doo
Starting point is 00:48:43 To the lock in Look at y'all Just to let you know He ain't real doo-doo You know what this is? Ticeroa. Are you really? It's Ticeroa.
Starting point is 00:48:54 It's a roo. Titsy roll It's Tissy roll Everybody know how to it's Titsy Roll No in your mouth, not in your hand, brother Straight up That's the old school Tissy Roll And the red? What was the red?
Starting point is 00:49:15 The red is ketchup For the females, the red was ketchup. So no females were harmed in the making of this documentary No female was harmed in the making of this. And no men's fecese. were harmed. No men, fetches. It was all Titsy Roe.
Starting point is 00:49:30 You see, I put it in my mouth. My mouth, not in your hand. Now, didn't you have a story about Tutsi Rules you wanted to tell me? Or was that that you had to use them? No, this is what I'm using. But I want to want to tell you that really hit home. They've been on the news for the last couple of days that they were showing that an inmate was hanging up.
Starting point is 00:49:49 And they filmed it. And when they filmed it, it showed the officers standing in like they was looking at a movie or something and the inmate hung himself. And he hung herself where, as they said, the body went life slips for a minute and before they went in. I don't know what this is true.
Starting point is 00:50:11 I'm just telling you how the news showed it and how they portrayed it. But my thing is, here goes something that happened to me that I would never forget. It was time for me to go home, like 2.30s. they bring this inmate in. He's screaming, You, let me go.
Starting point is 00:50:34 I didn't do it. Let me go. Let me go. Officers are fighting with him. They dragging them into my area. It wasn't me. It was my brother. I'm a twin.
Starting point is 00:50:46 I'm a twin. And they're like, Ebron, where do you want us to take him? I said, don't take him nowhere. I got him. I got him. I said, what's wrong?
Starting point is 00:51:00 He said, listen, the cops lock me up. And they think it's my brother. I'm a twin. I didn't do it. They said my brother killed somebody. I never killed nobody. The cops won't listen to me. I said, okay, what you want?
Starting point is 00:51:17 Can I make a phone call? Go ahead, make a phone call. Now, I got a house gang suicide age. They got this thing called slot time. You know, it's daytime to use the phone. Because they work for me. they get a little extra. If you're ready to refresh your wardrobe for spring,
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Starting point is 00:52:34 let him use the phone. Get on the phone. He called his house. He can't get through to nobody. Yo, man, I'm telling you, I ain't do it, man. They got the wrong guy. And I'm looking at him. And I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:53 sometimes you can feel what shit's right and you can feel what shit wrong. Some reason, I'm feeling this guy's telling the truth. They got the wrong one. They got the wrong. Fuck that. He's fighting with the seals.
Starting point is 00:53:06 I'm like, I'm putting him in the cell. He looked at me, please, officer, one more time. Give me one more chance. I'm looking at the clock. Time for me to go home. I'm like, this guy, man. If you don't get off Rockets Island by 3.15, you ain't getting off of Rockets Island there about 4.30.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Because that's how I get blocked up. And I'm like, man, laugh for it. Come on. Pin him back on the phone. He still can't get through. That's it. I did my job, I tried to look out for him. Okay, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:53:51 You see you now, man, please, nah, nah, nah. Listen, I got to go home. I'm looking out the window. It's sunny outside. I can't wait to get out of here. That butter ass is still killing me. I'm telling you, it's gone. But that shit ain't really gone.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Because the moment you get a breast-fresh air, And then you go back. That boy, ass is back. It's like, sad by affairs everywhere. So I'm like, yo son,
Starting point is 00:54:15 I got to go home. I'm a tell other officer to try to let you use the phone so you can call home. You hear the other inmates. That shit ain't going to happen, Ebroon.
Starting point is 00:54:27 He ain't getting on that jack. He hear that. Now he's really going crazy. See, they ain't going to let me use the phone. They ain't going to let me use the phone. Don't worry. When my partners come, I'm going to tell them about you
Starting point is 00:54:39 and I'm going to let you use the phone. Fuck that, see you. I'm going to kill myself. Fuck it, I'm going to kill myself. Six, four, dude. I'm fed up now. I'm west in time. It's like 3.10.
Starting point is 00:54:57 I ain't going, no. I'm going to be fucked up. Man, close yourself. Man, I'm out of here. I'm telling you, I'm going to kill myself. I don't care. Kill you. As a matter of fact, before you kill yourself,
Starting point is 00:55:09 write a letter to your mother, then tell her why you killed yourself. Because I did all I cared for you. So I close a cell. I'm walking out. I go to the A.B. I write down what's going on with the dude. Guy in seven cells say,
Starting point is 00:55:24 you're going to kill itself. Make sure you have a suicide aid to watch him. And let the captain know too. And I tell the officer that. The officer just came. Yo, this guy said, you're going to kill itself. You know, make sure you're going to. Oh, I got that, man.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Go on. All right. Go get my shit. I'm getting out to jail, and I'm driving across the bridge. Sunny day. Just one look at you, and I know it's going to be a lovely day. A feeling came over with me, man. I'm getting the shakes.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Shit don't feel right. Something ain't right. And the more I ride right across the bridge, something said, Turn around. La-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Turn around. What the fuck? Why?
Starting point is 00:56:29 And it won't leave my brain here. I'm telling me, turn around. I don't know, do you remember? It's a song. Her name is Bonnie Taylor. I found out her name of Taylor. She made a record called Turn Around. And it was stuck in my brain.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Turn around. And it won't. leave me. When I tell you, it won't leave me, it's penetrating me. And I'm like, what, tell me? And all I can do is hit in me, I'm going to kill myself. I'm going to kill myself. And the closest I get to the end of the bridge and go home, turn around. And that song's standing in my mind. I'm like, where this shit coming from? Eon, I got on the other side of the bridge. You're not supposed to make a U-turn. I took a U-turn. Don't ask me, automatic. Turn around.
Starting point is 00:57:23 I said, hey, what's on? I forgot something. I was shooting back across the bridge. But meanwhile, that wreck is still in my brain. Turn around. And it's singing to me. And I'm like, I don't know. I'm going fucking crazy or something.
Starting point is 00:57:36 But I'm going. Now I'm no, I'm speeding across the bridge. Thank God I had a gate one pass. Gate one, you park right in front of the jail. Oh. I get out. Yo, Ebon, what's going on? I forgot something.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Let me in. I rushed down back to my post. I'm banging on the door. I'm not supposed to have to bang on my door. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Boom, bam, bam, bam. It makes no one I'm talking about. Now I'm kicking the door.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Then the officer jump up. He's in the bubble looking. You can see him, he's sleep in the fucking bubble with his feet up on the fucking table. And I go over and look. I'm like, yo, yo, what's up? Where everybody here? What you mean?
Starting point is 00:58:18 Yo, I told you a kid said he was going to, man, I know he ain't doing shit. E-born? Let me on the floor. You know, when I got to Sevensel, Ian, that boy was hanging. That boy was hanging, man. I said, where my suicide's at? E-born, he locked us in. When you left, he locked everybody in.
Starting point is 00:58:56 You don't lock the suicide in? What are you doing? He's standing in there looking through the glass. Open fucking Seversail. Open my-old. Open my-old. suicide age, open everybody's you stupid motherfucker. And I hear the door, now the gates is open. Everybody's running to me.
Starting point is 00:59:17 This guy is hanging in. I run in there. I pull on my thing. These guys already know. We had hangups before. Go up there. I got to cut him down, boom. In my mind, I'm like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Because I've seen the slob and the slob with dick. And I said, Lord, please, don't know. I'm going. And I had them in my arms like a little baby. And I'm like, come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:59:45 It ain't worth this, man. Come on, man. Don't do this, man. Don't do this. Come on, man. Spent, slob all on my shirt. Come on, bro. It ain't worth all this, man.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Come on, man. All over my shirt. He's coming to. And you look at me, and I'm like, yo, what is you doing, man? What is you doing, kid? It ain't worth all this. And he remembered my name.
Starting point is 01:00:17 He said, he was on your seal. I did what you told me. I wrote a letter to my mother. And the letter was on the motherfucking window seal. It was on the window seal. Thank you, Lord. I think I became a correction officer for a reason. Because I say people lies.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Like I said, I ain't want to be a seal, but I think I was there for a reason. And stuff like that kind of peer stamp on me. Where I belong. And when I got to that damn bubble, I let that officer have it. I let them have it, man. And when the captain them came down, they let them have it too. Because I had everything in their book. and I told him
Starting point is 01:01:19 but yet you're going to lock the suicide aid into so I would have been covered but your ass would have been burnt but I don't care about that we just saved the life God thank you for letting me save this guy life and that wasn't the only life I'm saved
Starting point is 01:01:38 but Bonnie Teller I hope I'll say your name right thank you for making that record because who knows who knew that your song will help out or save somebody life years later who would have known incredible
Starting point is 01:01:57 who would have known so I got to live with this shit y'all like I said got 22 years in we ain't touched the iceberg yet and on that note Leroy thank you for coming for part two and you're going to be a monthly occurrence on our show tell the people what we have
Starting point is 01:02:18 coming in future episodes once a month you're going to have the exclusive on locked in with Ian Bick and uh you know we're really excited I've I never even thought we would have a series regular on the show yes I you know we reached an agreement where it you know you're giving us the honor to do this yes I think it's pretty interesting because when eventually maybe we don't have more of your stories which I'm sure they'll never run out you'll be able to give kind of insight and feedback on some of the other guests on our show too. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:52 You know, people wanted to see like that co-host aspect to it. And I'll never have a co-host, but having your opinion, I mean, I'm putting out 12 episodes a month. So you're going to be one of those 12 every month. And it's very exciting.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Like I said, you know, thank you for giving me this opportunity. And I want to thank before, I want to thank you, God. I want to think my mother. I want to thank the world. I said five barrels last time,
Starting point is 01:03:21 but after it went to 15 million, I got to thank the whole world for taking in what I'm telling you because I'm going to give you the truth, nothing but the truth, and that's what it is. Even when it hurts me, you know, sometimes I might tell you some stories
Starting point is 01:03:35 that's going to hurt me and I might sing or something, but I'm just having a little flashback. But I'm good. I'm good. You know, I'm good. You know, And last time you said, can I do a shout out?
Starting point is 01:03:51 I miss some people because we had a little melee in the other room last time that y'all don't know about. But it threw me off. So I forgot my boy, Reg just, you know, got me in this. And, you know, like I said, Ron, do all your, I love all y'all, man. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, I'm just here to give you the bare fact. You know, you know, mafia, math mafia. Thank you for everything.
Starting point is 01:04:27 You know, it's just so much, Ian, that I just want to thank the world for listening, you know, because it needs to be known, you know what I'm saying? It really do. Absolutely. And I think every episode, you know, we dive into a new topic of your story. I mean, today we, we, we cover. covered the smell. I think that was a huge part of why you went viral the first time.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Yeah. And you gave us a really incredible, you know, heartbreaking story, too. Yeah. And, you know, and this is like, I wanted to try to visualize what I went through because I don't wish that on nobody. And, hey, that, you know, that's the way it is, you know. And you know who kept me going on? You know, they got inspirational speakers out there.
Starting point is 01:05:14 And he don't even know he had something to do with me. keep going. This game, guy named Wallo. Oh, Wallo, yeah, I've heard a
Starting point is 01:05:21 while. Yeah, he's got a very big podcast. And I've been texting them, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:26 sometimes you don't know is they even live. Did they reach out to you? You don't even, it seemed like he was talking to me with certain things
Starting point is 01:05:33 I was putting out there. He goes, don't give up, you keep on, you know, and stuff like that and I text him back and seem like you
Starting point is 01:05:40 asked him, I could be bugging, maybe it wasn't for me that he was talking. But like I said, Wallo, just in case you know, you was a big inspiration, you know.
Starting point is 01:05:49 You know, you got Fadjo and Pistoo Pete. You know, Pistoo Pete was, he was in there when I was in there. That's a story for another time. Wait, wait, Pissu Pee got this with you. I can't do it. But I love you all, love you what you're doing out there. Maynoh, you and Jim Jones, I love you all, keep doing what you're doing. And, yo, Ian, I'm with you.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Locked in. We ride, and every month, baby, tune in, locked in on all platforms. And a very happy birthday to you. Thank you. Happy birthday, Ma. Mine is 24th. My mother's the 26. You're turning the big 21?
Starting point is 01:06:20 21. Yeah, wow. Incredible. You were at Rikers Island when you were one years old. I know my mother's going to be 100 years old. God bless her. 26, God, please. Incredible.
Starting point is 01:06:29 And she watched your episode, right? Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. Good. I'm very excited. You've got to FaceTime me when you're out there. That'd be great. I'd be great. I love that.
Starting point is 01:06:39 I'll say happy birthday, too. All right. Awesome. Thank you, E. Thank you, too.

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