Locked In with Ian Bick - Robbing Gas Stations, Scamming Sugar Daddies & SURVIVING Kentucky Women’s Prisons | Bambi Adams

Episode Date: November 19, 2024

Bambi Adams shares her journey of survival in this interview. From robbing gas stations and scamming sugar daddies to enduring Kentucky women’s prisons and county jails, Bambi talks about a life filled with crime, struggle, and redemption. Learn about her past, the survival tactics she used behind bars, and how she’s transforming her life after hitting rock bottom. #WomensPrisonStories #TrueCrimePodcast #PrisonSurvival #CountyJailLife #CrimeAndRedemption #SugarDaddyScams #LifeAfterCrime #GasStationRobberies Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Thank you to our sponsors this week: MAGIC MIND: They have a limited offer you can use now, that gets you up to 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one time purchases with code LOCKED20 at checkout. You can claim it at: https://www.magicmind.com/locked Connect with Bambi Adams: YT: https://www.youtube.com/@BambiAdams?app=desktop TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bambi_adams FB: https://www.facebook.com/bambi.adams.92/ Presented by Tyson 2.0 & Wooooo Energy: https://tyson20.com/ https://woooooenergy.com/ Buy Merch: https://www.ianbick.com/shop Use code lockedin at checkout to get 20% off your order Timestamps: 00:00:00 Meet Bambi: A Unique Name and Story 00:03:00 Childhood Divorce and its Impact 00:06:57 Realizing an Abnormal Relationship with Mother and its Impact 00:08:48 Transition 00:11:47 Family Influence 00:14:42 The Infamous Gas Station Incident 00:17:40 From Pharmacy Misadventure to Arrest 00:20:42 The Dynamics of Prison Relationships 00:23:29 Reflections on a Past Lifestyle 00:26:41 Unusual Robbery Tactics 00:29:44 Life in Chaos: Surviving Addiction and Adversity 00:32:45 Being Transparent About Addiction with My Children 00:35:42 Life in Women's Prisons: From Clothing to Visits 00:38:42 Road to Sobriety 00:41:32 Understanding Triggers 00:44:26 Transformative Journey Through Addiction and Compassion 00:47:29 Personal Growth and Self-Improvement Powered by: Just Media House : https://www.justmediahouse.com/ Creative direction, design, assets, support by FWRD: https://www.fwrd.co Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Graham and Hemmy are registered trademarks of FCAUS LLC. Bambi, welcome to Lockton. Yes, to everyone listening, your name is actually Bambi. Yes, it is. That's pretty cool. Well, it's not your actual legal name, right? It is. Wait, Bambi's your actual legal?

Really? My mom did that to me, man. Wait, what's your middle name? No. I'm curious what it sounds like. You can't give us the middle name? It's Bambi Jean. What's wrong with that?

What did you do that to me right now? That's so great. Bambi Jean? That's awesome. I love that. Wait. So we met almost a year ago. Yeah.

We were, uh, Mickle, uh, brought us to, uh, one of the recovery house. Mm-hmm. And you brought us to this office and we're sitting there. And you told us, you and Jessica each told us your story. And Mickle has been holding out on us. You guys like, wow, mind blown the two of you guys put together. And you just said it so casually. Yeah.

You're like this, this, this. You told it perfectly. Well, that's what it is. I mean, I know my. story, you know what I mean? So it's not that hard to tell. That's, so growing up, did people make fun of you for being called Bambi? Or? Not really. It just kind of, I mean, I caught the, you know, the little side thing. So you can call me flower if you want to. You know what I mean? Just all the things. I heard all the movie things. But other than that, no, not really.

I guess it just kind of fit. Did you ever ask your mom why she came up with Bambi? I did. I did. And she said It's because I had deer eyes. I know. So there. We've got that out the way. That's not a bad thing. No, it's not a bad thing. But it's still a very easy.

I think it suits you. I didn't realize it was your actual name. That's really cool, though. That's awesome. So did you grow up in Kentucky? No. Well, I grew up here. I was born in Fort Polk, Louisiana because my dad was in the military.

And so we moved around a little bit as a baby and then came home to Kentucky. Were your parents together? They were until the age. of four. And then, but my mom was a real bad alcoholic. So my dad, he had to come in from Germany because my mom lost us. While he was away overseas. Yeah.

So, yeah, he had to come in and get us from this little group home. Wow. He probably didn't like that. No, he was pretty pissed off. He was always pissed off. It really wasn't anything new. Why didn't you go to Germany with him? Because some kids do travel.

I don't know. He probably just didn't want to take my mom. You know what I mean? Wow. What did your mom do for work? Well, my mom was originally a seamstress, so she sewed. But most of the time my mom was having a hard time with drinking. Were you closer to your dad because of that?

No. No, my dad was just very strict. He was hard on me. He always thought I was going to end up like my mother, just right out the gate. Wow. So I tend to lean toward my mother because really she was there. but then she wasn't. So my grandmother kind of stepped in

and that's who played a big role in my life. Do you have any memories of your parents together early on or is it all kind of like? I have a few, but they were usually fighting and it wasn't anything good. Yeah. So they were just going at each other. That's such like an integral age.

To go through a divorce at that, it's not like when you're older and you've experienced that. It's tough when you're that young. I know. Do you think that that had a big effect on, you know, growing up in your childhood? and on the path you would take.

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or simply make it through the day with more energy, Magic Minds got you covered. Try it out and see the difference it makes. Thank you again to Magic Mind for being a proud sponsor of Locked In, and I hope you enjoy the rest of this episode. I don't know if it was the divorce or it's just the division. You know what I mean? It was always with my dad,

it was always didn't want me to be like my mom and was always telling me I was going to be like my mom, and my mom was always crying and all the, you know, And, like, it was just the division. Like, you couldn't like either parent at either house, right? So you were just like, I don't know. Yeah, no, my cousins went through a divorce and that was one of the biggest things, you know? There was just the constant fighting.

It was. And especially when it's not peaceful. It's not peaceful. When one person gets loud, the other person gets louder and then it gets louder, there's really no resolution. It's just everybody's screaming. So did you spend your teenage years in Kentucky? I did.

What was that like? When I moved in with my grandma, you know, she started trying to make me fall through rules and stuff like that, you know, and I hadn't been used to it. And so I didn't appreciate it, you know what I mean? And I was like, I don't really want to do that. So I started rebelling about the age of 12. I started drinking alcohol, you know, and just being about alcohol and on this revenge kick, I was ready to go after. Because with my mom, I had gotten, like, molested and things like. that with these men, you know, and so like once the age of 12 hit, I was angry, like at all these

men, and I was just out to get people, you know what I mean? And that's how my mindset was. And so that's how that went. And then about the age of 14, I started using other drugs. Did your dad know what was going on with your mother and the men and everything? No, nobody knew. Well, they knew that my mother was, you know, and that she always put me in a bad spot. They did know that. I mean, it was obvious. But they didn't know about the men because, like, with my mom, like, she, you know, she would smile at me and things like that when I would, you know, do the things for her. And, like, so to me, that was normal.

You know what I mean? Like, I didn't think anything of it. I thought that's what I was supposed to do because I don't care. I tell everybody I don't care who you're raised by, what you're raised by, or when you're raised by it. You want to make that person happy. And so that's what I did. So I never told anybody about it.

When did you realize that it was wrong and what the relationship you guys had was not a normal relationship? I realized the relationship we had wasn't normal about the age of 12. That's when I stopped letting anybody take advantage of me. You know what I mean? And was she essentially trading you for her own needs? I feel like you couldn't get that out of her. But yeah, I think so. It's not something I would do to my child, right?

Did you ever have closure with her on that aspect? Yeah, later on in life, she apologized for all the things she did before she passed away. Do you think that the apology was meaningful? I do. I think she meant it. Now, if your dad had known, do you think he would have intervened? I don't know. I honestly don't. I don't think it was that my dad didn't care. I just don't think he had empathy or anything for me. He was just always so angry. and I don't know that he,

I don't know how he would handle it because my grandmother, his mom, was raising us and he really wasn't even in the picture. So, you know, I mean, I'm not blaming my mom or my dad, you know what I mean? But that's the truth. Did a part of you maybe not want to go down the path of drinking just to prove him wrong

because he thought you would turn out like your mom? Well, it all started whenever, like my grandmother, she bought me this watch one time, you know, and it may sound insignificant. but she bought me this watch. I was like in the fifth grade. She bought me this watch and this girl at school said I stole it. And I said, I didn't, you know, I told my dad, I didn't steal the watch.

You know what I mean? He whipped me until I was like black and blue all my backside and at my back, right? About the time I kept telling him, I was like, my grandma, you know, Mama bought me this watch and she came in the house after about four hours of this. You know, it'd been all day. And I said, ma'am, I'll tell him, you know, you bought me this watch. And she said, I bought her this watch. And he looked at me and he said, well, now you'll know never to be a liar and a thief.

Wow. So that's what I became, I think. All because you think that? I don't know. I mean, I know I was pissed, right? And I was like, well, let me show you how good I can be at it. And then I... So do you think if that didn't happen, that, you know, scene didn't happen, it would have turned out differently?

I don't know. maybe, but I don't know because I started using drugs and stuff, you know. Why did you transition to drugs from alcohol? Well, first off, it started as an easing disorder. You know what I mean? All my friends was really super skinny and super sexy in high school, so I wanted to be that. You know what I mean?

And I'm only five foot tall, so it's hard to lose weight. You know what I mean? So I started being bulimic, and that wasn't working fast enough. And one of my friends looked at me and she said, Baby, you want to try some cocaine? And I was like, yes, I do. High school, just casually. Yes, yes.

This was normal back then? Yeah. And what year was this? I was 14, so it was 1994. So in the 90s, wow. And it was just very common to get access to that. Yeah, I mean, you get some real good friends, you know. Wow.

So this is when freshman, sophomore year. Did you get picked on a lot because of your height? No, I got along with everybody. You know what I mean? I know later on, like when I went to jails and stuff, people try to find me, because I was so short, you know. But I would just take off my shirt, you know, so they couldn't grab a hold of me.

I swear. I've never heard that before. I swear. They would grab a hold of my clothes and stuff because I was so short, you know? And I was like, you're about to have to hold my skin, baby. You know what I mean? That is funny. So in high school, you have an eating disorder, a drug problem and an alcohol problem.

Do you end up finishing high school? No. my senior year, see somebody else, because I didn't do Coke very long, I started doing methamphetamine. And it was very strong meth. It was like when they made real meth, you know. And my senior year of high school, I had been doing it back to back to back, like the cocaine, and I ended up OD in my senior year.

I was in fourth block. And I woke up, and they said, baby, you know where you are? And I was like, yeah, I'm in fourth block. and they was like, no, you're at Marymount emergency room. And I was like, oh, shit, you know. Wow. Do you remember what exactly happened? Yeah.

Were you with others? I just remember asking them where my mama was, and they said, I was trying, you know, they said she was out in the hall, and I was trying to convince them to keep her there, because I didn't want to do that, you know, and they brought her in, and, you know, she looked at me, like, the looks we get when people are disappointed. How did she react to that? She just instantly kicked it in gear. My mama was always trying to save me.

You know, she always believed in me. You know, she just knew I was going to do something amazing with my life. And she just instantly forgave me. And, you know, of course, for me, that wasn't a good thing for me. It was me just registered success. And that memo was always going to get me out of this, right? Why do you think that that wasn't enough for you? Like her love and surprise.

I don't know. You would think that that would be the case, but I think at the time I had an addiction, right? But I didn't know that. I didn't know I had a disease. I didn't know any of these things was even a thing. So did that overdose prevent you from graduating? Yes. Why was that? Because, one, my grandmother was super humiliated. And I guess it was just she wanted me to go somewhere else. So I went to Job Corps and got a GED. Her solution was pulling out of high school. school to go to job court? I did that. And then I came back and was off to the races. I, you know, I was 18 by that point and got in trouble. And, you know, that was different. That was just like a whole thing, you know, just go down there and get your GED and come back. And I just continued to get in trouble. Did you have, like, dreams and goals when you were in high school? Did you have, like, a plan at all? Yeah, I did a lot of theater. And I also played a lot of sports. You were a theater kid, too. I was a theater kid, too. I loved it.

You know? That's awesome. I loved it. That was a good way to express myself. I really enjoyed it. And why do you think, you know, that didn't keep you grounded and stayed on track? Because you had something you were passionate about. You had, you know, your grandmother there for the love aspect.

Yeah, I also had my mother in my ear. You know what I mean? My mom always wanted me to do the things she needed me to do. Like, my mom taught me a lot of the criminal life, you know, and, you know, I always felt bad for my mom because I told you, like, she cried all the time and, like, you know, and I just felt so bad for her. And so I always

did anything she wanted me to do. Like, she would teach me how to steal from my grandmother's to my grandmother own debut supply shop. You know what I mean? She would teach me all these things. And it was just, that's what I did. I was just always had my mom in my ear

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You know what I mean? And I would go out. And then that's when I started. That's when I caught my first charge. You know, I'm a really bad criminal. I'm really bad at it. It's because I do the stupidest stuff that you could possibly think of. Okay?

What happened that first charge? Well, I grew up in this house right here, right? And then right over here is this gas station. You were out of the gas station. Yeah. Yeah. I walked in the gas station and I told him, I was like, I got, I want, I want everything you got, you know what I mean? And I told him, I said, I got guns in my pockets.

And the only problem was I didn't have any guns, Ian. I had my fingers waving them around in the air. They had me on camera backing up out of the gas station going, pooh, pooh, you know. So did they give you anything? No, they didn't give me anything. And then I ran all the way to my getaway house next door, right? Did the gas station know who you were? Of course they did.

It's where I grew up, you know what I mean? So what happens to that? So you run that door? Yeah, I ran next door to my getaway house, right? Mm-hmm. And I had just convinced my mama that I was not on drugs. You know what I mean? I was all twisted up.

And the state police kicked up in my front door hog tied me and drug me out. Criminal conspiracy to commit robbery in the second, my very first charge. The state police, not even... The city, nothing. The state police. Holy cow. They tried you out of there. How many officers did this?

I don't even know. It was a lot, though. They were mad, dude. What's your grandma doing? She was just like, you know, she was like, what is happening right now? Because that was the first time I ever got in trouble. Yeah. So they haul you off to jail?

Yeah. Do you get bond or do you stay there? Yeah, my grandmother, she stepped right in, you know. I told everybody she hired me as big half-looting lawyer. You know what I mean? You have fuzzy hair and a big tie. And what did he get you out of the situation? He got me a pretrial diversion.

You ever heard of that? I didn't get that. I was like, what? I didn't hear anything. They just said I got to leave jail. You know what I mean? So it was good for me. But that wasn't good enough.

No, I got out. What happens next? Well, I did all right about three months. And my grandmother, she looked at me and she said, Bambi, she said, I think you have anxiety. She said, I think you need to go to a psychiatrist, right, and get put on some nerve medication.

I said, you are absolutely right, ma'am. You know what I mean? I was like, yes, I do. So I went to a psychiatrist, and I went in there, and I gave them the smule, you know, because, you know, if you've ever been to a doctor, if you're an addict, you can win an Oscar, right? You just tell them, I can't sleep, doctor.

You know. And they wrote me a script. What they prescribed to you? Oh, Xanax. And now you have a... Clonopin, I'm sorry. Now you have a new addiction. Well, I would have.

You know what I mean? But I told you I was a terrible criminal. You remember? Yeah, what happens now? They wrote me a script, but they didn't put a refill on it. So they just gave you a one and done. Yeah, and well, no, I circled a three. I know, but I circled it.

Listen, I circled it in the wrong color ink. You couldn't even match you. I swear to you. God, I know. That's what I'm saying. Look if I ever decide to go get high again, don't go with me, man. Holy. So you do that, but you think it's going to work. Oh, yeah. So what happens? I took it into the pharmacy, you know, and they filled it for me. I thought I'd won the day. You understand? I thought I had, oh, man, I was so excited. And I walked out the gas station, and there's two of my little mama, surrounded by the state police. Oh, man. Yeah. And they take you in all.

off again and you're what are you like 20 or yeah you're 20 years old? Well probably about 19 they love sending the state police after you I know right I'm like my god so now you're back in jail yeah well I go to prison because that pre-trial diversion just

oh so they they they went ahead they took me a little bit to get over but I went on it to prison and how much time did they sentence you to I was two years two years in Kentucky State Prison as a fee male. What's that like? I mean, it really wasn't that bad for me.

There was like a lot of drama between, you know, girls because the girl and girl thing, you know what I mean? You walk in there if you look any type of way. They're like, oh, my God, you're going to take my woman. You know, it's stupid stuff. But there's a lot of rape. There is that. I wasn't involved in none of that. And how did they treat you when you walked in?

And do you look like how you look now, like with the tattoos and now? No. No. No, I had really long brown hair. You know what I mean? I did not look like this. Okay. Was the height thing a factor?

You were mentioning that earlier about being small in prison? Yeah, well, that started happening when I went to jail. Like, people would just try me. And, too, I had a really bad temper. You know what I mean? I don't know. I think it was just from arguing all my life and people just trying me. And so I just fought all the time.

So if someone comes up to you, why are they trying to start a fight with you? Most of the time it was over their girlfriend. or something. Were you actually trying to steal their girl? No, I mean, I might have. I don't know. So they come up to accuse you of this, and then what do you just swing on?

I'm like, well, you know, I mean, they typically, you know, they'll push you first or something, but then you fight them. Yeah. Now, the guards in Kentucky women's prisons, how are they towards a woman? Is it just as bad as everyone else?

Well, I had one guard tried to date me once, you know what I mean? And how that came? But no, it didn't work because it was gross. I'm not doing that. And he proposed it to you? She, oh, so it was a female guard came up to you. And what does she say to you to, like, initiate it?

She was just all the time. You know how you can tell of somebody who's, like, flirting with you or whatever. Yeah. So what did you say? I just got, like, stuff from her. You know what I mean? I was like, yeah. So you acted on the information?

Yeah, but I didn't do this thing. Why not? I'm incarcerated, you know? Okay. Were you actually attracted to her? No. Oh, okay. So you were playing the system.

Yeah. And was this common for other female guards to hit on other female inmates? Yeah, there was female guards, male guards, whatever. But that wasn't like my thing. That was just used to ask me that question. I didn't really go after that because it was frowned upon. You know what I mean? You don't want to mess with the guards, right?

Were you one of the younger inmates that time you did the two years? Is it hard, like in a men's prison ages of factor? Is it like that in a woman's prison? Well, I noticed a lot of the older women, they would try to, like, tell me not to, they're going to end up here and, you know, you know, they were trying to school me. Because in women's prisons, I feel like everybody's just, like, they kind of mother you.

Like, there's a lot of that. Everybody just sisters up, you know, they just get along for the most part unless there's, you know, there's a few people. But they just try to mother you and try and tell you you're going to end up here and all this stuff. And, you know, you're like, whatever. Do you kind of find it ironic that they're trying to mother you,

but meanwhile, they probably have kids at home. that they're unable to mother. Mm-hmm. What are some of, like, the interesting cases you found there that some of these women have? What do you mean? Like, I don't know, like crazy cases. Maybe they were like...

Well, there was, like, this lady, she was in there. Her name was Faye Foster, Bearder. She had killed somebody and ran over them, backed over them, like, really killed them, like a lot, right? And she was there, and I don't know. I didn't think she looked like much, but they acted like she was just big deal. And I was like, okay. She looked really old to me.

Wait, this was in Kentucky. Mm-hmm. I kind of feel like I, what year was that? 2000, I want to say. 2000. 2002. How much time did she get? A lot of time.

A lot of time. I feel like I had someone, another female on the show that was in Louisiana that might have brought her. Well, this was at Peewee Valley in Kentucky, so I don't know. She was there. And then there was the Susie Baker where, you know, where she had kidnapped the kid from school. But I didn't really ever, like, see them. They kept them in a different yard.

And were you guys in, like, dormitories? Okay. And so after those two years, do you do the full two years? Yeah, well, I got out on good time. Okay. And I got out, you know, of course, you know, they gave them my phone back and, like, you know, I didn't even, it's like it didn't even matter.

Everybody was pissed off at me, So I had to go get some other means, you know what I mean? I had to get some sugar daddies and some sugar mamas, you know? Out on the street. Yeah. You had both. You were working with both. Yeah.

That's funny. I told everybody I'd slept with a squirrel if it had dope. You know what I mean? Who cares, man? If you live in that life, that's how you live. You just tell people, you're like, I love you. So what do you think about that now, those actions that you did back in? You know, some of it I'm all right with, some of it.

moment. I mean, I hate that I had to be that person, but I had to be that person in order to become who I am today. Now, do you think that mentality came from the way your mom treated you when you were a kid? Maybe. Like, realizing that you wanted, you needed an actual figure, like a male or a female, to help get what you wanted? Maybe. Did you ever think about that? No. I just thought that I was just doing what I need to do. So these people that, where would you meet them, like, to get, like, a sugar, daddy or a sugar mommy. How do you find these? Oh my God,

it's so easy. There's like these old men, man. Come on. You can just go in a pizza hut. It doesn't matter. Are you going to a pizza hut? It don't matter. What pizza hunts are you going into?

You can just go in whatever. You see some old creepy dude and you can tell he's got money and you just look at him and he's like, you know. You're 22 years old and you're going into these places. Yeah, it's wherever. How easy is it? Very easy. Okay.

It doesn't work that way for a male. It doesn't. These men that find, like, sugar mamas, I don't know how they pull it off. Like, it's hard, you know. I can't do it. It's easier for a woman to find a sugar daddy than it is for a man to find a sugar mama. You don't agree? I don't know.

I would say so. I think if you look at this. There's some cougars out there. They're trying. Yeah, maybe Kentucky's got the cougars. Maybe. It's a wild cat. The wild cats.

That is funny. So you would find these people and they would buy you drugs or give you money or how would that work? Yeah, they would like give you money and like or they would buy you drugs. Either one. If they wanted to act like they were too good for drugs, they would give you money or you just steal it from them. So how would you know like that these were safe people to be around to steal them? Well, they're like 87 years old. You know what I mean?

They're not going to fight you. And you didn't care about, you know, like being physically intimate. with these individuals that are like 80? I mean, really, you can't really get too intimate. You know what I mean with the 87 year? What do you think about like these young models that are with like these rich, you know, 70-80-year-old men? Good for them. You know what I mean?

Go get that money. But do you think they genuinely love this person or they're in it for the money? Because like they could. Come on. I think they're in it for them. And so they're like 40, 50-age year difference. Yeah. They are not in it for the love.

Like what is Bill Belichick dating like a? 22-year-old A bottle or whatever? She is racking up. You know what I mean? Come on. I think it's wild. I don't know.

I don't know how you can, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe she loves grandpals. I don't know. I would be freaked out. Yeah. It's not somebody you want to end up.

So you did that. Did you ever get caught for doing any of that? Yeah. This one guy ended up shaving him. Wait, what did you did shave again? Well, because he was,

because he was like, you know what he was like doing that. dirty talk in my ears saying, oh, you know what men like, you know? And so I was like, you know what women like, you know, and I shaved him. Like it took a razor. Yeah, shaved him. What do you mean? Shaved him. Like his hair? Everything. Like you cut something? Yeah, shaved his everything. Wait, you cut his dick off? No, I shaved that hair off of it, though. So, I'm so lost. So you're there. he's like men like to be shaved. No, he's like telling me a whole bunch of stuff.

And then I'm telling him what women like. And I just shave him. And then I rob him. And then I leave him. And he's itching. And he's real mad at me. So he calls the police. So the shaving is like a torture?

Yeah, it was wonderful. But couldn't he stop you? He could have. But he thought that's what women liked. So you played him and thought that, oh. So while you're shaving him, you're robbing him. And so he calls the cops. Yeah.

Now the state troopers come and get you again. We went in the state troopers. I just ended up getting pulled over and it was a, I think it was a sheriff. But yeah, I got to check charge and I went to jail. And how much time did you do for that? I think that was probably another two or three years and then three on the shelf. But I got in there and he came up and brought me commissary money. The same guy you robbed right?

That's some badass shit. I know. Wow. Bambi the robber. I know. You hustled these. Bambi the hustler. Wow.

Yeah. Wow. So where was your grandma going during this time? My grandmother was at the house, always trying to get me sober, always trying to, you know. I ended up having two children in the midst of it all. And my grandmother was, you know, in and out of trying to take care of them at the same time. You know, I was OD and I was going to rehab, you know. and my grandma was always stepping in and all the things.

Then it just ended up getting really bad to start shooting dope, you know. I know it's like I might glad of it, but it was a really rough time. Where were the fathers of the kids? The one father. Not an 80-year-old man, I hope. No, he wasn't. No, but he wasn't anything special. He just got to sleep with him and whatnot, you know, and Tatum's father.

that's a long story. Gotcha. So how did you transition to then shooting dope? I just, you know, it just gradually happened. I was, you know, doing enough meth and, you know, everybody's like, well, if you do it this way, you know, and once I did it that way, it was awful. It was awful.

I found myself for a bath, like for hours on end in a bathroom hit. I was paranoid. I was freaked out, you know, all the time. Where were you staying? Yeah, now that's your daddy's house, other people's. But yeah, he was prominent in that. And these are just, like, rich, wealthy men. And did they know, like, couldn't they have looked that up on the news or see who you were?

I'm sure, but I don't even know if they really cared. You know what I mean? It was just, like, so long as you're there and you're doing whatever. Yeah. Now, it's just, like, small town vibes. Everyone kind of knows, like, you're the town junkie a little bit. Yeah, that's really the truth. I was the one they counted out for sure.

Yeah. Well, they were wrong. Yeah, they were. Maybe not back then, but they're wrong now. They're wrong now, yeah. So after you got booked in on this two-year chart. Ready or not, summer is coming, and Wayfair's Memorial Day clearance is on now. Right now, through May 25th, get up to 70% off everything home at Wayfair.

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What then happens, and how old are you about? That was probably about mid-20s, because I had Peyton at the time, you know, and then I'd gotten out. I had taken when I was 33. So, I mean, it's just been like that. I don't even hardly remember in my 20s at all. You know what I mean? And, you know, that was a Hosannax phase.

That was, I mean, I'd just be real with you. It was just a mess. And I was in and out of everything. Cray jails institutions. I OD'd seven times, you know. And then eventually it just got so bad I couldn't take it. And I was staying back at that place. I had both my kids and I had been doing meth like back to back.

well first I had gone out and I thought well I'm going to try and do this right you know and my kids they didn't know me like sober you know and that's sad they just knew hi mommy and I was the moment that could you know that's the mom that can play all the games in a night and can do all the things and but I couldn't keep up so I thought I would just start drinking alcohol and that would suffice but it didn't because I found myself right back in the bathroom shooting dope for hours and that's when it like broke. This was the bad time. This is when it all went to shit, really.

I had my babies out in a U-Haul driving around for three days. I was in psychosis. I don't know if you've ever heard of that, have you? I've heard of psychosis, yeah. Yeah, and that's how I was for three days, and my chest was beaten. You know, I was scared to death. I just knew everybody was after me,

and I had my children out in the same. this U-Haul driving them around. I kept telling them, I was like, we're moving, we're moving, you know, and I was freaked out. I was scared to death, and my mom called me him. She said, baby, I'm calling social services on you. And look at first, it made me mad, right? I thought, well, you know, you're a law caller. You know what I'm saying?

But what it did do was it checked me. It, like, brought me back for a second. It made me realize that I had my kids in a U-Haul. And I took my babies to school, and I dropped them off, and I said, I'll be back to get you at 3 o'clock. And then I went back to get him at 3 o'clock and my dad and social services and my kids were staying in there.

Oh, your dad showed back up at that time? Yeah, because, I mean, he had to take care of my kids. They asked me if I could pass a drug test and I had been told him I had been smoking marijuana and I hadn't. I was trying to buy myself time to get high. Ain't that sad? What this disease does to us?

my daughter looked at me and she said mommy you've never looked at us this way before she said what's wrong and I knew what was wrong I was defeated like I had lied to my children yet again and promised them the world you know and so I went as hard as I possibly could for three weeks as hard as I possibly could did you ever have that conversation with your kids about that time period now? Like, have you explained what was actually going on? Yeah, I'm very transparent with my kids. They hear my story. They hear my lead.

My kids are actually pretty proud of me. My daughter loves it when I mention her. She's aside. But, yeah, yeah, I have talked to him a lot about it. And I ask them, you know, if there's things that I could have done or if I could do now, like my son. He was mostly there. My daughter, you know, she's mostly seen me. Like I'm sure she remembers some stuff, but she was like four when I got sober.

Are you ever worried that those jeans could kind of get past names? Oh, my God, am I ever? I think about it every day. I don't care if my daughter blinks three times. I'm like, oh, my God, that's an ism. She's going to prison. You know, I do. You look at them and you just wish it so bad that they don't go through that.

You know, I don't want her to go through that. She's hard. It's hard to raise you. What do they think about the prison, of your life? Do they ask you questions at all? Are they interested in that? Not really. I think because, well, my son, he kind of saw it, you know, that side of it, the visitings and all the things. Tatum, she's not really asked. She's scared the death of it. Like, she don't, like, she does things, and we have to threaten her with prison.

Well, you know, there is this huge fascination with women's prison. Like, a lot of, like, the viral clips on this show are about like how women's prison smells and just like the unique things that women do like how they create like deldos. Oh my God. That's a real thing. Yeah. How would they do it at the prisons you were in? I don't know.

I didn't ever come across one, but I had heard about it a lot. I hadn't run across one. But they do. Yeah. I mean, people are just like really fast. They use pads for everything. It's ridiculous. Yeah.

Like suction out the toilet with their butts, just to talk in a toilet. Why would they do that? Just to talk in it to somebody over here somewhere, I know. And then like there's different hustles. Like I know like back in the day you could like send panties home and stuff like that. Oh yeah, there's all kinds of websites. There's some sugar daddy sites, yes sir. Four prison inmates?

There's so many people intrigued by prison females. Are you kidding me? They're like, oh, she's bad. You don't know, buddy. What does she get out next? to you. What did they have you guys wearing? Was it like jumpsuits?

For me it was khakis. Okay, just like two pieces or just like one? Okay. We had like in a couple of the jails that were in. It was like the full orange jumpsuit, which was awful. And our other women like altering the clothing so they can kind of feel like they're not in prison at all? Yeah, some of them, but they wouldn't really let you.

If they saw it, they'd make you take it off. And the shoes are just like the sliff on vans? Well, yeah, you can buy tennis shoes in prison, but if you got a jail, you know, you're lucky to get two crocs at the same size. Yeah, what's the difference between a woman's jail and a woman's prison in Kentucky? Well, the women's jail, you're just, well, really, you're just all sitting in a room, you know, it sucks. It's terrible.

It's not great in prison, but at least you have space, and with women, you need space. You know, in jails, it's just bickering back and forth. It's just a lot. You know, people are waiting on that next one to come in the door, you know, the drug to be pocketed in, you know. or something like that. So what goes on in like men's prisons, do women really do the same thing?

Like with smuggling and drugs, getting contraband. Yeah, women, yeah, they have their own purse. I guess it's a little bit easier, right? Yeah. It is easier to, they got two options. Yeah. Men have one.

Yeah, women have two. They have other options, yeah. And were you guys able to get visits and all of that, like individual visits? I was able to get visits. I didn't get many visits when I was at Pewee Valley because my grandmother one was very old, and my mom, she didn't drive. Did your kids come visit you at all?

When my grandmother came, she would bring them. How did you feel about them seeing you in the prison? Oh, it's heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking. I couldn't remember I was telling Megan the other day about my son. He had made it up to the jail to see me when his father had him, and he hadn't been there in a while, and he came to the screen, and he took his hand up there, and he said, I made it, Mom.

He said, I'm so brave. And it just broke my heart because, you know, kids shouldn't have to be brave, right? Yeah. And he should, you know, so I remember that. But I'm so glad that God got me sober. Do you think your kids have memories from you? I'm sure of it. I'm sure they do, but they don't talk about it.

Do you ever want to talk to them about it? If they, I ask them, you know what I mean? But I feel like I've been sober for almost six years now on the 12. 8th of September. So, you know, I think they're just enjoying the sober mom. They're not really living in that. Kids are so resilient, you know? Yeah.

So that road to getting sober, what was it that, you know, eventually brought you there? I had a praying grandmother, you know. And when I overdosed, I had, remember I told you I was going really hard for three weeks? I had overdosed. And when I woke up in the hospital, I had tubes coming out. me, I looked the worst I ever looked in my life. I had lost a lot of my memory, a whole lot. I knew I

I had children, but I did not know my baby's names, and that was really heartbreaking. But at the same time, I felt brand new. I did. I felt like I could rule the world. I felt so different. I felt so amazing. And almost a year to the date of that overdose, my grandmother

had passed, the one that prayed for me all the time. And what I believe happened is I believe my grandmother was sitting at the right hand of God. And I believe she looked at him and said, take it from her. Right. Allow her to see her worth.

Allow her to believe in herself. Because like I said, I'm laying in that hospital bed looking the worst I've ever looked in my life and I'm ready to live. You hear me? And do you think that's what made the difference between that overdose and the other overdoses? I do.

Because I woke up so different in, I can't describe it. All I can tell you is I know it was God. I know it was. I'm not confused. Do you ever think about the individuals who don't make it past overdose one? There's so many people that died just after the first one. Oh, it breaks my heart.

It breaks my heart. We do these things for them. We fight, and, you know, we do Morgan's mission, and we fight for all these people. They're losing their lives of fentany all. But there's just so many. There's so many. And there's ones that are just picking up for the first time,

just thinking it's, you know, a vape or, you know, I went and spoke in a little juvenile detention home and a nine-year-old told me that her best friend overdosed on a vape pen because it had fentanyl in it. She was nine. I mean, it's sad. And it's so sad. I hate it. What do you think are the biggest misconceptions about addiction that you've come to find out through your own personal journey and through the others you work with? That people are just made that way, you know, the stigma.

of it, that they can stop anytime they want. There's a way to do this. This is an actual disease. You know what I mean? It really is because, like, people know that, you know, like you said, you have an addictive personality, right? And you know better. You said you knew better.

I'm not doing that, right? So I didn't have that warning. So once I tried it, I was like, oh, I love this. I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it. And like I couldn't get it out of my head. There was like a phenomenon. It just went crazy. And I couldn't shake it.

And that's really what happens to people. But the ones that pick up for the first time, I don't know. It's the saddest thing. Do you think it's all kind of within us and something has to essentially trigger us? Like it could happen to anyone. And once they have that trigger and the timing and the, you know, the right place and the right time. And, you know, everything kind of aligning. That's when it happens.

Absolutely. I don't believe this disease discriminates. There's doctors. lawyers, there's everybody, everybody can be affected. And if it's not affecting you personally, it's in your family. And it's not just like heroin or cocaine or the main drugs. It could be as something as like, you know, your subscribe, yeah, pain pill. That's a common one among a lot of people.

Go get you some lorocytes for your back pain. Just having an injury can start at all. And you won't even know it. And you have that addictive personality. You know what I mean? If you don't have that self-control, then you, are on a really bad road right now. So how did you get into the line of work you currently do?

Well, my sponsor suggests I get three jobs when I got sober. Why three? Yeah, she just decided. She said two jobs at first. And, well, because I'd burned every bridge, you know what I mean? And she wanted, I didn't have anybody waiting on me to give me a house and all the things. You know, I was going to have to build my life, right? Plus, I had a lot of jobs for it.

I had things I had to pay for. And I had to do it. And so she put that in me. And then I started working at one of the programs that I had went through to get sober. And then Jess called me up to work for Lake Cumberland Recovery. And how did you meet Jess? How did I meet Jess? I met her when I first got sober when I woke up from the hospital that day.

And I went on over to recovery works that day. And I was going through her office. And I said, I said, I know you. And she said, you don't know me. And I was like, no, I know you. And it's like God made me instantly familiar with her because she's walked with me ever since that day, day for day. And what's your role now at Lake Cumberland?

What exactly do you? What's a day-to-day like? Oh, man, day-to-day? Yeah. You got till next week, I don't know. Give us a typical day. Like, from the time you wake up, what you do and the people and individuals you work with.

Okay, well, I'm an intake director. slash public relations. I do a lot of the stuff. I get up in the morning. I check my emails. I try to find out who's in help. I go to a different city, try to every single day and reach out to a different community. Love on people. I tell my story. I put place people in treatment. I sponsor. Man, I don't even know all the things I do. I be a mother. We just do everything. We go in the jails. I mean, there isn't one thing we don't lay our hands on. How important do you think it is that you yourself have been affected by addiction with trying to get these people to change and, you know, kind of better themselves and change their life?

Well, I think it was very important for me to have went through it. Because had I not, I wouldn't understand what they're going through. I don't think I would have the compassion that I do, the drive to help them. I think God puts each and every one of us through something for a reason. I think all the pain and all the things that I went through was exactly that. It was bringing me to my purpose because in this job, I am lit. Do you hear me? I love it.

I love to see people change their lives. I love to watch them say, you know what, I was just like I told you. Yes, I had sugar daddies. I had sugar people. But you know what? That's not how I am today. But somebody knows me. They know that because they've done it.

You get what I mean? and that'll help them open up. And that's what this is. You have to just be able to relate and help people to see that that's not who they are forever, you know? I think so many people, you know, they go through a lot of struggles in life and they don't know that that's actually putting them on their kind of life purpose.

I know. What do you say to those people that are kind of, you know, struggling, getting out of prison, getting overcoming addiction, and don't realize they literally have like a golden goose in there, our golden egg in their lap, just waiting for them to open up. Well, I would just say to him to get into meetings, meet people, get into the programs, go to different programs, centers come to like cumber and learn coverage if you want to. Jessica, probably hire you immediately.

I'm still in on a job over. Yeah. I can't get a job over it. It's crazy. It's great. So why did you pick Mayflower for your move? Didn't want the hassle of dealing with a broker or little guy. Mayflower's been moving families for 100 years.

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Guys need some social media marketers or something? Just remember that, you know, everything that you've been through in your life, It's really truly bringing you to your purpose. Like it really is. And you have to own it. You have to start bragging on yourself. You have to say, I'm amazing. I can do this today.

I am not the person that I was back then, you know? That first time you got up and you talked about, you know, all of the crazy things you've done. Like you're doing very comfortably today. Most people can't do that. Like it took me a while to be able to do that. And when I did that, that's when my life changed. What was it for you to get over that fear of being,

able to go on and say, hey, you know, like I, you know, hooked up with an 80-year-old man for some drugs, or I did this and I did that, or I robbed this, you know, what was it for you? Well, for me, it was, I actually had to work a program. My first 30 days of treatment was very hard. I worked through a lot of things. I remember breaking down about that, that 87-year-old man because I felt so gross. You understand? So it was a lot of, it was a lot of step work. It was a lot of working on myself, you know, and just kind of paying attention to what I need to hang on to and one I didn't. Yeah, that's awesome.

Well, Bambi, thank you so much for coming on the show. I'm glad we finally got to sit down and do this. Me too. And, you know, keep on rocking, you know, the sky's the limit. Thank you so much.