Locked On ACC - Daily College Football & Basketball Podcast - ACC SQUAD - HOT TAKES: Clemson Tigers and SMU Mustangs on ACC Championship Collision Course?

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

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Visit Fanduel.com to get started. We'll look forward to maybe a scenario where the ACC gets two teams. into the playoff, maybe a scenario where they get none, because actually that is possible. I just learned that this week. It is possible. Do you want to get into this now? So I'm Alex Dono from Lockdown Caines, Jackson Holzer from Lockdown, Syracuse, Kenton, Gibbs, and Grace and Boone from Lockdown, Wolfpack. We got J.J. Jackson from Lockdown Blue Devils.

Isaac Shade is back. O'Marian Hampton is still running, and Isaac Jay is back with us. Yeah, so, Jackson, I was brushing up on my college football playoff, you know, this whole 12-team format and who gets in, who doesn't. First, all problems, we get it. You're the host of Locked-on Cains. We understand. Miami might still screw it up. Appointment television every Tuesday night.

Yeah, we get it. Miami still has opportunities to possibly screw it up, all right? But we all know, you know, five conference champions. are guaranteed to get in. And we all assume power four conference championships get an automatic bid. No, sir. It's the five, it's the five highest ranked conference.

It's possible. It's possible that a couple of group of five, let's say Clemson gets into the ACC championship game because Miami screws up, which could happen with two games remaining. And Clemson, in getting into the ACC championship, maybe they lose to South Carolina first, which wouldn't count against their conference record. They win the ACC title with three losses.

Maybe there's two group of fives ranked ahead of them. The ACC gets nobody in. It could happen. It could happen to the Big 12 as well, by the way, if it doesn't happen to the ACC. Boo, that scenario stinks. It's awful. It risks. Did you see on game day?

I actually didn't know that. I'm actually stunned. Yeah. I legitimately thought it was just the power four conference champions plus a group of five champions. I thought as well. And then I, and then an article, which I thought was click bait, but apparently it was just bait or it got me click anyway. Today said, hey, there's a scenario where the ACC or the Big 12 gets left behind. I read it and I, my mind was blown.

And somewhere Greg Fanky is smiling and happy and weeping all his happy tears. Did you all see on Game Day Saturday? They tried to explain the whole playoff scenario. And it took like five hours. McAfee's out there with like a classroom pointer and Herb Streets trying to. And they're talking, it's this whole thing. And I'm like, you got to have a PhD to explain this and a rocket science degree to understand it. I mean, like we can understand it.

Sure. But they're taking up half a game day explaining this thing. It's wild. I mean, obviously, have a game day to explain that it's not the four power conference champions. Indians. We just waited 30 seconds to be there. Yeah. We took four minutes. And I think it's, I'm not surprised by being the highest four.

But what I would be very surprised and disappointed by is even if Clemson were to win or whatever the case may be, you still cannot make an argument that Miami or SMU without, now, this is barring total collapse. everyone. So don't, if both of these teams wet the bed and forget how to win football games, that don't come at free for this. But with the information we have now, to think SMU, who's only losses to BYU, who is looking like they're prime to be the Big 12 champions, or at least in the game, that team isn't good enough. Miami, one lost team potentially, that team wouldn't be good enough. I struggle to find the reason. And again, Even if Donald's scenario was right, they lose a couple games each, right? Okay, everybody collapses and all that.

I still struggle to find a world where we don't, we use something besides circular logic to describe the SEC as being that much better than the ACC to where they get four bids and we get none. To where they get four to five bids and we get none. And by the way, I want people to think about this when it comes to strength of schedule. Do y'all know how strength of schedule is determined in the early season? It's determined by preseason polls. So who we thought was going to be the best, it now determines who actually is the best,

regardless of on-field results. That would be a little funny. That's pretty little, wait a minute. Doesn't make sense. Just because I thought you were going to be good, doesn't mean you're actually good. Just because we thought USC beat LSU early, we thought they were going to be good.

Were they actually good? Hello, anyone? So I think it's ridiculous to think that the ACC would be left out. And I don't even want to entertain the conversation, but we got to fill the airtime somehow. For sure, we can I presume that there's a world. Well, look, can I give you, can I give you a more interesting? Yeah, well, can I give you a more interesting scenario? Like, I'm, even if Clemson doesn't get to the ACC championship game,

I see a scenario where they could get in. Tell me if it's just me, because this is obviously, this is more hypothetical than the other scenario, which is possible because, you know, conference champions aren't guaranteed to get in. but let's say, you know, Miami and SMU, you know, both win their next two games. Actually, SMU only has to win one of their next two games to get into the ACC championship game. So if it's Miami SME and the ACC championship game, that means Clemson misses out. But Clemson wins their next two games. They're done with the Citadel.

Clemson's done with ACC play. But if they win their next two games, including against South Carolina, which would be deemed a quality win if they can get it. Would it? I think so. I mean, basically, based on the way the SEC is going. I agree that it would be, but you know how the SEC goes. You know, if you beat the SEC team, all of a sudden, that team isn't good. No, but they actually have respect for Clemson and what they've done in the past.

Do they know? So, so they've won two national championships in recent memory. I mean, come on. You're right. You're right. I agree that. I agree that a thousand percent. All right.

So let's say, let's say SMU beats Miami in the ACCC championship game. SMU gets in as a one-loss conference champion. And then what if Clemson actually then maybe gets rewarded for not playing in the ACC championship game because Miami's got a recent loss, maybe they dropped Miami out and they put Clemson in because Clemson just beat South Carolina. I could see that happening. I don't see. I don't.

That could happen and that sort of stuff has happened before. I remember there was a long time ago, it might have been 2016 where it was the Big Ten. and Ohio State beat Michigan, but they did not make the conference championship game. They had one loss. And because they didn't make the conference championship game, they didn't have to have the other opportunity to lose. And so therefore they were in the playoff regardless.

And I believe Penn State was the team that won the Big Ten that year. They had that extra loss. They didn't lose the Big Ten, but they had the extra loss. And so they were penalized regardless. It could happen. That's the genius and murder name. They don't have to be out. There's no way.

They're not going to leave out Miami. What was the scenario? It's not going to happen. They leave all Miami, but add in places because Miami loss. It's not happening. It only happens if, no, it doesn't happen. I think it could happen. It's not going to happen.

Why would they leave out Miami? For what? If they both have the same losses, what is the logic? There's not any other than you just saw a team. But by the logic, you would put. By the logic, you would put. probably argue that if how many bucks was that

down? No, no, no. But let me a couple more. Miami would be 11 and 1 to end the season, right? They end the regular season. No, if they lose to SMU,

if they lose to S will they be 11 and 2. So then they're 11 and 2, which is a half game better than 10 and 2. What are we doing here? Well, but if Clemson beat South Carolina, the committee would probably say that's a bigger win that Miami has.

There's no way they do that. I don't want it to have me. You see the color. I'm wearing. I don't want it to happen, but I'm telling you it could happen. I will say this. I will say this. I will say this. Number one, very disappointed to see Isaac twerking. That just hurt my spirit in my eyes. But what would hurt my spirit more than somebody not named Meg the Stey and twerking on this show is the fact that we are looking at a situation where in order for the ACC to miss out altogether, how many teams have to get in from

these other conferences. And I mean that from a very genuine standpoint. Even if Boise State dominates every game going forward, even if Army finds what, we don't realize this, but it's a very real situation. Army versus Notre Dame this weekend is an elimination game for the player. One of those two teams will be eliminated. One of those two, so even if that situation turns out to where it's a three point loss and somehow both of them are still ranked very highly, even after that, we give up three spots there that still leaves five. Okay, Oregon, Ohio State, that gives you two, and that leaves you with three. And you're telling me with a straight face, there's a world where you look up and say,

hmm, we don't only need the top two SEC, we need three or four, or we need to get Indiana in there despite a loss or two. Because let's be honest, if they lose Ohio State, they're not going to be looked at in the same way, because they don't have any wins in the SB top 40. So with that being said, I'm very intrigued to see how this thing plays out. And by the way, shout out to Indiana because they won the football games. They've done the thing that, you know, so I look at this and I say to myself, a world where the ACC doesn't get in is a world I don't want to live in, not just because we're on ACC the squad, but it's a world where we're letting this,

oh, well, every loss is like a biweek if your conference is hard enough, and that shouldn't be the game. Especially after where we got left out. I was going to say it might help it might help the Florida state lawsuit right they'll say hey look it happened with four teams it happened again with 12 wait wait wait for the ACC sue itself ah that's a great question aCC so itself is crazy I tell you this uh if you're clemson right now you are ruining that Louisville loss because without that man it feels a whole lot different right now well then if you're Clemson you're pretty mad that Louisville couldn't beat Stanford the next week

that's true that's true we help out our strength to schedule a little bit the most hilarious you know situation for an ac c team you go on the road and beat clemson only to turn around and lose at spencer at night at night at night at night at night at clifton clumson they lost that night at home in how long down on before this was it 13 years 10 years it was like 11 years i think yeah that is insane last time clemson lost at home at night i had a firm hair line in waves for those of you who can't see me i'm shiny bald now i'm not than mat ball This is crazy. This is what bedlam we have in the ACC.

But Louisville wrote the manual on how to blow a game. Because it was everything that could have gone wrong in the final 10 seconds went, went completely wrong, including, you know, you give the ball back to the other team on fourth down. You were presumably thinking we either hit a Hail Mary and win the game or we go to overtime, worst case scenario. And then you commit two straight penalties to move them right into field goal range. They were operating with five seconds left. Hang on. Dono, if they wrote the book, it was volume two because Miami wrote the book last year against Georgia Tech. I'm trying to deflect from that.

I'm trying to say, thank you, Jeff Brom for that away from Christopher. I will tell you this, there's something about the city of Louisville lagging out because Dalton's Wi-Fi is always lagging out. And Jeff Brom and that team lagged out at the end of the game. They're just like, wait, we're not supposed to hit guys out of bounds. Wait, what do you mean we can't go before the ball is not on the field goal? You sure about that? Very disappointing showing by the cards at the end of that game,

really all game long, because you allow a team that allowed NC State to put up the most points it ever has in an ACC football game to hold you to how many? Yeah, you deserve a little bit of shame, shame, bell, it dunts caps for everyone. Well, we got a lot more to talk about in terms of games from this past weekend. SMU is in a great spot now where they, all they have to do is win one of their last two games. And we'll talk about the games coming up this weekend. We've got bowl eligibility on the line. We've got ACC championship picture on the line because, you know, pressure is on Miami because they've got to win both of their next two.

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Credit to Cade Clubnik guys who really iced the game with a 50-yard touchdown run. But am I the only one who felt like Pittsburgh really let them off the hook? Because Pitt was they were on their way to pulling off one of those signature comebacks they've had this year a la West Virginia game, Cincinnati game. But they get into the red zone in the fourth quarter, self-destructing time after time with these crazy false start penalties, even coming out of timeouts, they're committing false starts. So they're having to settle for field goals instead of touchdowns, really bit them in the butt.

And to be at home doing those things, too, is crazy. I mean, yeah, totally pit missed the opportunity there to pick up a big win at home. And Clemson proved once again that, yeah, a lot of their players. have been there in these big time moments unable to make those plays. And how does how does Klebnik just go sliding through there on that last, like, how does nobody tackle him?

He looks like a wounded gazelle meandering through a safari. And it's just like, somebody lay on this dude or trip him something. Why? He said he was trying to go out of bounds. But then he realized nobody's going to attack because he was going to go out of bounds to save the clock.

But he's like, no one's going to get me. I'm just going to stop. It's like when Forrest Gump was running toward the sideline and Bear Bryant's like that way and he just turns north and goes, man. It's crazy. I hate to tell you maybe the unofficial pit guy on this show because that was an embarrassing performance. How many times can the team say we were the better team in terms of them in Clemson on the day? How many times can we look up here and say in an ACC football game, hey, we beat Clemson in most of the stats that matter? This was not a game that was like, oh, man, you know, they did so much and we just couldn't stop them.

There was nothing we could do. You out past Clemson. You out rushed Clemson. You out everything, Clemson. But what you couldn't do was outscore them because every time you got inside the 20, you wet the bed a little bit. You said, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're not ready for this moment. We're not ready for this spotlight.

We're not ready to be mature enough to say, So what? To hell with the two-game losing street, we can still turn this thing around and make good things happen. No, we're going to curl up into a shell and make ourselves just pretty much collapse at the one-yard line here. And Pat Narduzzi is the prime example of the duality of man. Because have you ever seen a coach that is simultaneously as great as he is in moments while also being as terrible? Have you ever seen it in your lives? Can't say so. Yeah.

I don't know. Exactly. Exactly. The silence was definitely, ladies and gentlemen. The silence was definitely because when you think about it, you're like, he can coach up a bunch of three stars to make Clemson look completely mundane. But boy, once you get into that red zone, all of a sudden it's like, maybe Holstein needs to, maybe we need to go away from what works and look what happens every time. Just remember what happened. By the way, Clemson, they can still, as we did discuss, they can still get into the ACC championship game. Basically, they're rooting for Wake Forest this weekend against Miami and Syracuse the following week. The fighting Jackson Holzers can play spoiler to the fighting Donos,

the final week of the regular season. We got nothing to lose and everything to gain. Either way. Every moment for Miami to walk into. For Miami to walk into that, it's scary. So for Clemson, you know, again, they're done with their ACC schedule seven and one. That's an excellent conference season. So they need Miami to lose one out of their next two or SMU to lose both out of their next two.

And gentlemen, I think we could agree that's not happening. I don't think SMU is going to lose either of their upcoming games. They've got Virginia and they've got Cal to wrap up the season. But again, they can afford to lose one of those and still get to the conference championship game. Of course, for their playoff standings, they're very much most. motivated to win both of those games, and I think they will. Either way, you cutters' license, something's getting spoiled in that Miami-Saracuse game. Either Syracuse is going to spoil Miami season or Miami is going to spoil the Brown Households night,

because the boys stay every single time they take it hell. You break off the Frizzles, it gets nasty in there. I knew you were going in that direction. That was perfect. Oh, boy. We got another week to worry about Miami. We got the Yukon Huskies this week. Honestly, if you're Clemson, I mean, this kind of goes back to our first segment conversation,

but there's a level at which I just want to beat Citado and then beat South Carolina and not be in the ACC championship game because it guarantees me I can't take another L, which they're going to use again. So let me sit home like Notre Dame and watch all these other teams in competition take L's. And I'll just ride in with my two losses. But the problem is specifically saying. I don't say this about SMU. I think SMU has to win the next two games. Like, I know in technicality-wise, like, they can afford a loss. You mean from like a playoff standpoint, Jackson?

But from a playoff standpoint, they got to win both. Because I'd agree. If they lose one and now they're one loss, let's say they play Miami in that conference championship game and it doesn't go so well for them, they're out. Like, they're not going to take them. They're not going to take a three-lost team. They'd be a three-lost team.

Yeah, and I don't think a three-lost team, here's the thing the committee specifically said we were not going to punish teams for playing in um conference championship games that's cute that's cute well that's cute well that's very cute i don't believe it we know yeah it's one of those old nudge nudge wink wink things like when your parents are like tell us the truth you're not going to get in trouble yeah i've not been around the block a couple times i know what's going on here and it's it's really this again it's just a disappointing thing to see because if you believe that Clemson is one of the best 12 in the nation, how do you not also believe that about SMU and Miami? I don't, what's, what's the problem there?

I mean, I will say for the fighting Jackson Holzers, that was a, that was a great performance and a complete win against Cal. And you're closer to it than the rest of us are giving you cover Syracuse. Can you explain to me why QS were 10 point underdogs in that game? Because I didn't get it. I was telling Kenton that all week. I bet, I bet, you know, money on, on Fandul on Syracuse plus 10, and I kicked my feet up for that entire game. So I understand why Syracuse was the underdog. First of all, they're on the road. They're traveling to the West Coast. You got to give maybe a little bit more points to Cal in that regard. When the line got to 10 out, when the line got to like eight points, that's when I said, all right, enough. This is already bad. And it kept going in

Cal's favorite. This is one of those rare times when the sports books were, they were just dead wrong. And I knew it right away because I actually picked Cal to win the game. But I said, I think Cal is going to win the game on like a walk off field goal or something, which means they're going to cover. And I said, I think the line should probably be about five and a half. I think Cal is better than what their record says they are, at least going into the game. They've had some close losses. They've blown a couple games, although they did lose to Florida State, which how do you lose to a buy week? I don't understand how you do that. But I thought Cal was going to actually win the game, but the line made no sense.

And Syracuse just played their best game of the season. That's what happened. Yeah, playing their best game of the season after playing some of their worst ball at times, like that loss to pit. But all right, guys, we're going to look at the upcoming schedule this coming weekend because we have some important games, not only for ACC championship standings, but bowl eligibility. So you guys want to keep it locked right here.

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at home this weekend. It's going to be Senior Day for Miami final home game for Cam Ward, Xavier Restrepo, 27 different Miami seniors are going to be honored in that game. Now, it would be very Miami to, like, allow Wake Forest to score their season high of points. But I find it hard to believe Miami's going to lose this game. I definitely have concerns about Syracuse the following week. But Miami comes off a biweek. They're still thinking about that loss to Georgia Tech the last time they played.

I think Miami's going to probably roll. And I think Cam Ward and company will probably score more than 40 points in this one. Yeah, Hard Rock Stadium is going to be rocking. This is the most excited Miami fans have had a reason to be in quite some time. And with that being said, senior night is going to go just fine for the Canes. No problem here. I think the Canes roll. What was my own about over there with Hard Rock Stadium?

What was that? What? All of a sudden I saw Isaac chuckle about the Hard Rock Stadium thing. Because Hard Rock Stadium's never rocking. That's why I chuckled. Damn. I mean. Listen, the amount of seniors that are homegrown from Miami at this point in time,

or at least very close to it, guys who are in that area and the fact that, like, everything is on the line at this point in time. I'm not saying that Miami's fan base has been fantastic and they sell out every game. And they're saying for this game in particular, I would not be shocked to see that place be packed. I will say here, I would be shocked. But it's a noon game. You have to understand.

Oh, I didn't know what that new. Okay. That's on me. I didn't know what I knew. Yeah. Like, it's, it's ridiculous. Like, people make fun of it.

I make fun of it too. But I'm from the area. I know that it's like 45 minutes away. And like students, they don't want to do it. It's a 45 minute shuttle. I didn't know. Here's what's going to happen because, you know,

I'm born and raised in, in Miami. You know, people, a lot of people in Miami on a Saturday, they don't even wake up till noon. So people are going to go to the game, but it's going to be one of those things where, you know, they show the shot on ESPN right when the game's about to kick off and it's two thirds empty. By the time like late second quarter rolls around, it's going to be pretty full. So there's going to be people there, but they're going to be half asleep because they were up until 5 a.m. on South Beach the night before.

It's going to be one of those deals. Like I hate it for the seniors that it's a noon game because Miami fans usually show up very well for night games. games, noon against Wake Forest, despite the fact that you're playing for your college football playoff lives. A lot of people will be there by 1.30, but not so much at noon. And that's what did it for me. I didn't know it was at noon. My fault, OG, my bad, did not know. Hence my check. We got another big matchup here. We got to talk about this one. I mean, the night. The game two wins. Ninth in the big south. We got Charleston Southern going on the road of Tallahassee to take on one-win, Florida State.

Appoint television. Can't wait for this one. I mean, I like my Southern Buccaneers. Who's going to get to two wins, Southern, Charleston Southern and FSU. Who's doing it? Wait, wait, wait, Jackson. It might be Charleston Southern. Are you going to Jackson?

Are you going to Charleston Southern in this one? Are you going with the Bucks? I don't know. Who cares? All right. We need an all-time tankful for the ages here. Give me the Bucks plus 10. I'll take it.

I'll take the Bucks plus 10. You give me the Bucks plus 10. I'll take that action, baby. I'll try it. Yeah. I think it. Let me throw this at you. Right now, but if they lose the Charleston Southern, I mean, like.

I will tell you, I don't think Charleston Southern is going to win the game, even though they're going up against a Florida state team that mentally checked out like two months ago. Just the difference in the athletes. But I will say, I will say, I'm looking at that game on Fanduil right now. Seminoles are favored by 33 and a half points. I didn't get in Charleston Southern. Give me the best. Burkaneer stop, baby.

They're going to cover. I need it. They're going to cover for sure. Charles Barkley. I know nothing about Charleston Southern, but Laura State's in trouble. As my grandmother would say about her pork chas, I need that smother

covered and all over on the side. I need everything with that. Them boys are favored by 30. I'm not sure if they can be best. We got to get Brian here back. We got to talk about this team. We really got to break it down. This is an all-time tank bowl of college football.

We got to talk. We got to talk about this. I'm not sure that Florida State right now could be cast technical high school. I'm not sure. I'm not sure they could be St. Thomas Aquinas at the moment. IMG would dominate those boys at the moment. Okay. Listen, hey, plus 33.

I'm not even a big man. I got to go sign up a band do. I got to go give me an account. I got to go. Your first five hours. Florida States favored by 33 and a half, they haven't scored that many points. And again, in a game in Washington.

They haven't done it. Yeah, I need that. I need it. I need it. I need it. That's the lock of the, our level five lock of the week is right there. Level seven lock, actually.

We're going to make that level seven lock because that was safe and secure. No need to watch any other football than this game alone right here on Saturday. I don't know though, JJ. We do have that classic ACC matchup, Stanford at Cal this weekend. Bring out the band. It's going to be great. I'm excited for that. Too longstanding ACC members.

You know, they've got a long history of ACC football, both of these teams. An illustrious combined, what, 12 games in ACC at this point? But I'll tell you what, you talk about a stink. It's going to the Atlantic Coast well. You talk about a stink bowl. That's another one. That's another one where two teams is just, P.U, both of you, get out of here. Get out of time.

Well, it's just so weird because I usually. Because they lost to Syracuse. That's what this is now. When you lose the Florida State, that puts you in the Sting. Oh, yeah, you're right. And the words of the grid, stink, stank, stunk. That's what those two teams do. Yeah.

I mean, it's going to be weird, though, watch, because I've watched that game so many times over the years, like to have the ACC banners all over it. It's like, what, like, what world am I living in? Geography aside, it's just still going to be weird, because that was all with Pack 10, Pack 12, ACC banners on Cal versus Stanford. That's going to be wacky.

And it's the ACCC network. network afternoon game too that's even more funny when going back to the florida state charleston southern game they're putting it on like only like the digital like you have to sign up for probably like some chinese social media app to watch the florida state gawson southern game and it's a that should be the prime time game what are they thinking guys who cares about virginia sorry jj who cares about virginia tech and do we all want to see florida state and dup we all want to see florida they lose to Charleston Southern. Oh, my God. Couldn't agree more.

I mean, come on. ACC. What state can't lose that game, right? Like, in all seriousness, they will not. They will not. They will not. I mean, like. Because Charleston Southern is terrible, too.

They're terrible. Yeah. They're in the big South. They're terrible. All right. I just need to know. We were all right. 33 and a half, give me the points.

Give them here. Exactly. I need it in my life. Like, it's physically impossible for them to lose just because of the athletes. Like, whether they're, these athletes even care what team they're playing for, it's physically impossible for them to lose the game. But I also think it's physically impossible for them to win by more than 33 points.

Yeah, no, that's not happening. I think Florida State should just run the entire, I wouldn't try throwing the ball. Because if you throw the ball, that's where bad stuff is going to happen. Yeah. Just run. Oh, wing to your offense. Yeah, do it. Right. Yeah, that's what I would do. Well, I appreciate everybody's time on this episode of the squad. Make sure you're checking out all of our shows. Locked on Syracuse. I know I'll be doing a crossover with Jackson next week to look forward to Syracuse trying to play spoiler to Miami. I'm from Lockdown, Keynes, Kenton and Grayson from Lockdown Wolfpack, Isaac Shade from Lockdown Tar Heels, JJ Jackson from Lockdown Blue Devils.

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