Locked On ACC - Daily College Football & Basketball Podcast - ACC STOCK WATCH: Are ACC Title Odds for Virginia Cavaliers VASTLY Overrated or Right on TARGET?

Episode Date: August 31, 2026

ACC football futures shake up after Week 0 as Virginia surges to a dominant win, pushing their odds to challenge Miami and Clemson atop the conference. Can Beau Pribula and the Cavaliers sustain momen...tum for a 9-win season, or is regression inevitable? North Carolina’s gritty victory over TCU sparks debate over Bill Belichick’s bowl eligibility hopes amid a tough upcoming slate, while Florida State’s shaky performance raises alarms ahead of their clash with SMU. Julian Council and Kenton Gibbs break down stock moves for top ACC teams—buy, sell, or hold. Key takes on NC State’s signature Dave Doeren bounce-back potential, Stanford’s gritty push for four wins despite offensive concerns, and the evolving quarterback dynamics across the league. Who’s poised to exceed expectations, and who’s trending down after opening weekend? Catch bold predictions, roster insights, and essential storylines as the ACC season heats up. Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! KALSHI For a limited time, Download the Kalshi app and use code [LOCKEDON] to get $10 when you trade $10. . Indeed Listeners of this show get a $75 Sponsored Job Credit to help give your job the premium placement it deserves at http://Indeed.com/podcast. Square Get up to $200 off Square hardware when you sign up at https://square.com/go/COLLEGE ! #squarepod ULTRA POUCHES Don’t sleep on Ultra Pouches. New customers get 15% Off with code LOCKEDONCOLLEGEFOOTBALL at https://takeultra.com! #UltraPouches #ad 5-Hour ENERGY Bring on the sweetness with Cotton Candy 5-hour ENERGY®️ shots—available online now at https:/5hourENERGY.com or on Amazon. Gametime Today's episode is brought to you by Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDON for $20 off your first purchase. Terms and conditions apply. FanDuel College football Saturdays are already packed with reasons to get excited, and this season, FanDuel is giving fans even more ways to get in on every matchup. Join all the action at https://FANDUEL.COM FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Which ACC teams are we buying and selling after week zero? We'll tell you right here on Locked on ACC. You are Locked on ACC, your daily podcast on the Atlantic Coast Conference. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. Welcome in to another edition of the Locked on ACC podcast. I'm Julian Counsel, and he is former NC State Football Letterman, Kenton Gibbs. And today's episode of Lockdown ACC is brought to you by Cownd. for a limited time, download the CaliChi app and use code locked on to get $10 when you trade $10.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Let's do some ACCC stockwatch coming off of week zero heading into week one. Of course, five ACC teams played over the weekend, Stanford, Florida State, NC State, North Carolina, and Virginia. On today's show, we're going to tell you whether we're buying, selling, or standing pat with all five of those teams heading into week one. And let's start off with the Virginia Cavaliers who had a resounding third. 34 to 8 victory, unfortunately against your wolf pack on Saturday. Kenton, looking at Fandall Sportsbook, Virginia's win total has already gone up from seven and a half wins to eight and a half this season. So the over would be a nine and three season.
Starting point is 00:01:18 They're now plus 1,400 when the ACC tied with Clemson for the fourth best odds behind Miami, SMU, and Louisville. Seems like a big jump there. Are you buying? Are you selling? Are you standing pat on the who's after Saturday? So let me ask you a question, Julian, okay? because we're doing this, we're figuring out which stocks to buy,
Starting point is 00:01:38 what are we doing here? But like every smart investor, you know, if you go to Chuck Schwab or something like that, they'll ask you, the first thing that I'll ask you is, what are your investing goals? So I'm going to ask you, what are my investing goals here? Are you saying, am I buying that I believe there'll be a good team, or am I buying for the over of nine?
Starting point is 00:01:56 Yeah, are you going to buy the nine and three? That's what I'll say, because we'll do that. We'll look at where they're at right now. So are you going to buy now going over, of being a 9 and 3 team after what you saw on Saturday? I'm on a hold. And if that's the case, I'm going to hold it. Let me tell you why.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I saw UVA's best case as eight wins. That's what I saw. I saw eight wins as their best case. I'm not sure that I'm going to buy more of that stock based upon the fact that they bludgeoned a team, whose Mike Linebacker was quoted as saying, I did not expect that much quarterback run. I'm sorry. I'm not willing to go up to nine.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I've said all offseason. I think best case didn't get to eight. I remain firm in that. I remain firm in that. I'm going to go ahead and say, I believe that I'm going to hold them at that eight wins. I'm going to hold right there. Yeah, I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I had Virginia a couple weeks ago when we did our regression candidates as my prime regression candidate, mainly because they won 11 games last year. That's only happened one time in school history, expecting them to turn over the roster and to go out there and to do that again or at least be within a game of that. I did not think was realistic without having seen them play. And even after seeing them play, I still feel like this can be an eight and four football team. So I'm not ready to go to nine and three just yet. I wasn't overly concerned about the quarterback spot because of the offensive line.
Starting point is 00:03:20 And we saw those guys went out there and they moved furniture all afternoon in Charlottesville on Saturday. So that's still a plus in my mind. Bo Perpula looked good. Now, Mike M's turn would be if Perbula injures his ankle, that's going to completely change their offense. I don't know how good of a passing team they can be. Now, I want to see Rico Flores back healthy in that wide receiver room to know exactly what they're going to look like. I'd like to see Cam Courtney more involved. I'd also like to see other guys in the tight-in room like Dakota 20 more involved to really have a firm understanding of what Deskitchens is trying to do with that passing game.
Starting point is 00:03:55 But yeah, Prubula goes down. that's going to impact what that offense looks like. And even if Holstein comes in, which I think they're capable with him, they're not going to have the running threat that they have in Bocula. So I think right now, staying at like an 8 and 4 right on the under makes the most sense. But I love what they did with the roster turnover,
Starting point is 00:04:14 how the continuity looked really good on Saturday, being one of the most experienced teams in college football, certainly in the Power 4. And then defensively, they're flying around. So I'm going to stay as well with like an 8 and 4 Cs. season, but I can see them get into that nine win total and potentially being in that conversation with Miami SMU and Louisville. I just need to see a little bit more right now. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I couldn't agree more. And let's then go to North Carolina. I had the big win against TSU in Ireland, 15 to 10, which now has Fandall with their win total moving from four and a half wins up to five and a half. So are you buying or are you selling a six and six bowl eligible North Carolina team coached by Bill check based off of what you saw on Saturday in Ireland. First of all, let me make this clear. Wolfpack Nation, I did not let you down. I never bought any stock.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Julia gifted me the stock as a Christmas gift. I said, who's this Julian guy? Why am I receiving North Carolina stock? I would like to get rid of it immediately. But do I buy them as a bowl eligible team? No. I don't buy them as a bowl eligible team. Again, a Sunny Dice coach team that decided to run the ball as much as they did.
Starting point is 00:05:24 And I get it. You can say, well, the, the, offensive coordinator, you expected more run. Sure, more run, you know, that's fine. What they did, balance to me is not 50% run, 50% pass. Balance to me is doing what you want when you want. You can say what you want about Virginia's offense and Boca Reel is inability or ability to throw the ball. They were balanced in it they got whatever they wanted.
Starting point is 00:05:46 That which they wanted, they got. The TCU offense was the exact opposite. Nothing that they wanted at any point in time beyond drive number about two or three. was there for. So I credit North Carolina. I credit that defense for showing up in a major way. I really do. I do.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Do I buy them as a bowl team? That is a different story. I'm going to say no. They're going to need to do more. If I did have any stock, I still would sell it. If you said, hey, your investing goals, or they get to a bowl game, sell that immediately. Well, we both woke up this morning and had all the stocks in our portfolio for five of these ACC teams. So that's how you got it. But you look, man, I'm not surprised. And I don't
Starting point is 00:06:32 necessarily disagree with your answer there. I will sell North Carolina right now as far as them being a bowl team. They look competent, which was awesome. Like for me, like, I'm a Carolina fan. I did not know what to expect. The more and more I looked at this game going the Saturday, I felt like it was going to be close in that there was a path to victory. But TCU certainly helped them. Not having Jordan Dwyer that impacted their passing game, the elements impact of the passing game. All the mistakes that they made, I don't think TCU is likely to make all those mistakes again moving this forward this season, but they made them on Saturday, and Bell Belichick's team was more disciplined and got the win.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Give them credit. Bobby Petrino, clearly an upgrade over what they had in Freddie Kitchens. Duh, we all expected that to be the case. I thought that Billy Edwards, Jr. looked pretty solid in that game, missed a couple of throws here and there, but overall was able to operate the offense and get them down the field. Now, I was disappointed just offensively after that safety that put up 12 to 10. They went fumble, field goal, fumble, miss fuel goal, and then the end of the game where they're able to run out the clock, which is a positive. So they didn't do much after getting the lead, which you want to see them be able to at least close out those games by scoring a touchdown and really put into pressure on TCU, which defensively, they did an outstanding job. I don't think
Starting point is 00:07:49 we know who this team is just yet. I think a lot of people, and we do this every year with week zero, week one, where we go with the overreactions and say, oh, I told you so. Bill Belichick just need more time. He's figured out college football. I'm not saying he hasn't figured it out, but I'm also not saying he has because it's a little bit too early to go that far based off of a 15 to 10 win against TCU in Ireland, especially the way it looked on both sides of the ball for TCU and for Carolina. They have a by week this week.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Then they play East Tennessee State. We're not going to learn anything about Carolina against East Tennessee State. Then they go down to Clemson. we'll learn something about them against Clemson, then they have another buy, then they play Notre Dame. We're not going to learn anything about Carolina against Notre Dame. I don't really feel like we're going to know who this team is until they play at Pitt in early October. That's when after five games, playing TCU, playing TCU, playing Pitt, I think we'll have a firmer grasp of what this team can accomplish. So until then, or at least maybe a win and starting off 3 in O in Death Valley, I'm going to hold Pat, I'm going to sell at least Carolina being a 6 and 6th team at this point in time.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Yeah, you know, Julian, you're spot on the day. You're spot on the day. And I'm going to tell you what, man, at the end of the day, when we look at this team, when we look at the week zero overreactions, I never want to take it as far as this team's terrible. They're not going to do anything. And I never want to take it as far as this team's the greatest thing we've ever seen. But with enough evidence, you can change our minds. You can get us to join the bandwagon that we were not originally on.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Yeah, absolutely. And again, like, guys, I'm not just a Carolina thing. Like, I'm a season ticket holder. I still invested in this. There's a lot of people who didn't invest in going to these games this season and paying for it. I still did it. So call me what you want in the comments about. Still saying what Bill Belichick hasn't done enough, all the bad things he's done last year.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Like, that has not been washed away because they beat TCU. Guys, so I still have my hard-earned money. Go to see these games. It is Julian, his wife, his parents, and six other people that are season-ticket-holder sitting there in Keenan Stadium every Saturday. And we appreciate all 10 of you. I mean, they appreciate all 10 of y'all. I'm sorry, I had to get that off.
Starting point is 00:09:58 It's only two of us. It's me and my mom. It's, what, college football. If you're going to these games as a North Carolina fan because of their win, lost record, you're doing it wrong. I'm going to spend a Saturday. My mom's in a stadium. I love going to.
Starting point is 00:10:12 That's the college football is about to me going to Chapel Hill. But, yeah, still put down the money and feel good about it after Saturday, but need to see a lot more before I'm starting to look at a bold destinations for Carolina come December. What about State? What about FSU? Where are we at with them after week zero? We'll tell you in just a moment here on Locked-on ACC. Before the season even kicks off.
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Starting point is 00:11:24 For more information, see Kalsi.com slash regulatory. Back here on a locked-on ACC, a little ACC stockwatch for you going into week one, something that will do throughout the season, maybe not every week, depending on how things are playing out, may get redundant at some point in time, but a good way to go look back at the weekend, look ahead of how we feel about these teams. NC State, their win total, Corny Fandle sports book, has gone down from 7.5 to 6.5.
Starting point is 00:11:53 So where are you at, Ken, are you buying or are you selling State as a 6 in seconds? How should we do this? Should we do it the lower end as far as them being 6 and 6? Or should we do it at 7 and 5? I think we should do 7 and 5. I prefer 7 and 5. And I'm going to tell you.
Starting point is 00:12:12 You're going to buy 7 and 5. I'm buying. I'm buying. It's the Dave Dorr's special, everybody. Catch the magic. It's the Dave Doran experience. Big game? Perhaps not.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Perhaps no preparation. Perhaps we will not prepare for quarterback run against the only quarterback. Again, 12 years of Coach Drink being a coordinator and a head coach, the only quarterback to not throw for 2,500. And we're going to prepare for, I don't know, something that has our linebacker saying, wasn't prepared for that much quarterback run. But the sick part about Dave Dorn Magic is just this. Right when everybody starts to sail, they'll circle the damn wagons. Right when everybody's like, this is Dave's last year.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I'm not kidding. I received a call from somebody very close to Dave a couple years ago saying, this is it. He's done. Not that he was about to get fired. He was going to retire. Okay. And I wasn't the only one who received it.
Starting point is 00:13:09 It was multiple people in Central North Carolina media who were all informed. This is Dave Dore's last run. And then all of a sudden he rattles off four straight games. And it's like, oh, well, I guess he's good. And he's like, oh, everybody can kiss my ass talking about I'm on in retirement. So at this point, I'm going to say Dave Dorn is going to cook up the Dave Dorn special of 7 and 5 or 8 and 4. And if we're going the under over, am I buying the stock? I'm buying.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I'm buying because, again, Dave Dore needs everybody to not believe in them, which everybody now is at. I have never seen fans so apathetic. Yeah, well, it's the Law of the Wolf, right? Joe Giulio. I know you're on with him and Joe Ovious on the OG, friends of the show. I'll be on there later on this week. Love those guys. But Giulioly Sox about, and they've already moved.
Starting point is 00:13:57 They have in their studio, like a whole- The cycle of Dave. So, of course, Law and the Wolf, when you expect the most, get the least, got that on Saturday. And when you expect the least get the most, and that's what I think you're going to get moving forward here for the next couple of weeks. Like, I think Louisville, like, that's the real test. If Louisville is as good as I think they're going to be, and I think you think they're going to be pretty solid as well this season. If NC State wins that game at home, after losing Virginia,
Starting point is 00:14:22 I mean, God forbid, like losing that bandit, it's like, what are we even doing? We're just in this cycle that is never ending. I'm going to buy State at 7 and 5. I was never buying them as a Dark Horse ACC contender. I understand the schedule, but the talent on the roster, a lot of questions there for me. And we saw that play out on Saturday, but they're not that bad. Like this is a team that's a lot better than what they showed on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Like a lot of scrimmage, a major concern on the defense side of the ball. And I think that's going to probably continue as they will get better, though. But don't lie, like, they're going to get better there. Certainly, C.J. Bailey's not going to look like that every week. He's a better player than that. I think Duke Scott will be more involved in the receivers may not be what they had last year, but they will certainly improve. So I'm not all that concern about state overall because, yes, Dave Doran,
Starting point is 00:15:09 he finds a way went back against the wall to figure it out. And even though people are saying a lot of nice things about them this offseason, you know, as soon as I lose a game, it's going to be right back to fire, Dave, and here we are. So now it's time for Dave to circle the wagons, have the by week, go beat Richmond,
Starting point is 00:15:23 beat Vandy, beat app. Lord knows you need to beat up. And then maybe upset Louisville in Carter Finley Stadium. I'm not going to be surprised at all if that happens. But with Florida State, oh, God. Watching that game on Saturday, I was disappointed because I was hoping
Starting point is 00:15:40 to see renewed energy see them coming out flying and put up some points on the board. Like they scored 34, but this was a game that was kind of in doubt there in a third quarter. It should have been 17, 14, had Mexico State on that running back pass, not drop the ball, which was a wide open touchdown. And a lot of FSU fans, rightfully, are not enamored by what they saw on Saturday, especially knowing that on Labor Day night next Monday, they're playing SMU, which yikes. FSU, their win total stayed at five and a half.
Starting point is 00:16:10 So I guess we're going on the high end of this. Are you buying? Are you selling? Are you standing pad on six wins for the Knowles hitting that over? Again, Julian is such a kind man. He just put this stock in my portfolio. I'd never ask for this. I never asked for this. Sell.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Sell it immediately. Sell it now. Actually, my advisor sold it yesterday. The markets just weren't open yet. But don't worry. It is being sold as we speak. My advisor is selling it for whatever somebody wants to buy. it for. Whatever they want to put down on it. You want it for an Indian quarter. We'll take it. We'll take it. We will take it. We will take it for the rupees. We will take it for the yen, the euro, whatever you want to buy it in. We will sell it to you. You want to buy for a Venezuelan pay so? We got it. Let's give it. Give it here. Because Florida State is six. Come on now. Come on. Sell it.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I think I'm actually standing pat because I would never buy Florida State to be on the other. going in the season. So yeah, I'm selling the stock. I'm already, I mean, they put more in there. You're talking about we woke up this morning. I put it in your account. It's in my account. I'm getting it out of my account again.
Starting point is 00:17:21 And I told you yesterday, I am being stubborn about my FSU. Okay, they're going to do what they did against Bama and show up and beat SMU on Labor Day. I am moving towards moving off of that. But I don't want to do the overreaction. I don't want to do the overreaction. reaction thing and I kind of want to have a spine for at least like two weekends to start off this season. So right. I'm sticking with the Knowles right now. But like expectations haven't really changed for me after the game on Saturday. I love the playmakers offensively.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Usman Cromo looked awesome. Sam Singleton looked great. Just Robinson, Mackay Danzy. They have. They are who we thought they were. Ashton Daniels. Yeah. I mean, Ashton Daniels is a little bit disappointing to me. I expected it a little better from him in that setting into that team, but it was his first game in this offense. So, all right, go back to work, figure it out, look better. You have to on Monday against SMU. But yeah, the concerns with the offensive line, reworked unit didn't look good. They'll get better, but how much better will they get and can they get? The pass rush, super disappointing that they didn't really have it. And then the communication issues and the secondary, that will improve with guys.
Starting point is 00:18:32 like KJ Kirkland back and having Ashton Barker back and also having Jabryl Rawls back. But that you can't have what you had happened on Saturday evening where it's a wide open guy because Kirkland and Rawls were not on the same page there as far as leaving safety of some help over the top. But my main question with FSU, same main question going to the season. Will they fall apart if they lose SMU? Will they fall apart if they lose Alabama when they likely lose some Miami? Are they going to be able to stay together or are they going to quit again? So yeah, I'm selling it. I'm standing pad on my preseason.
Starting point is 00:19:02 reactions and feel about this team. Saturday didn't change much. It certainly exposed me to some of the concerns that I had and new concerns that I now have going to Monday and the rest of the season. It's just, man, just not great vibes there for the Knowles. And go check out Brian Smith. I'm sure he has plenty to say about that on lockdown Seminoles, as he had to say here a couple weeks ago when we previewed that team.
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Starting point is 00:20:27 One more team to talk about here on this AC-C-C-C-E. stockwatch edition of locked on ACC. Stanford got the 10 point win. Bad beat there for those who were betting on Hawaii to cover as Stanford had to scoop and score to win by 10 on Saturday evening. I did not lose money on that. I was on the other, I mean, if I would have bet on Hawaii, which I said they were won by 10 points, would have lost it. And honestly, would have deserved to have lost in that way because of I went against the conference.
Starting point is 00:20:56 So my bad guy, Stanford, Alex Howell, I apologize. He hit me off my DMs on Saturday. And go ahead, do it. You should talk trash to us when we get things wrong. But looking at Stanford, they're still at a three and a half over under wind total. Are you buying? Are you selling? Are you standing path over your preseason projections on Stanford being four and eight this season after getting, I think, a much needed win against Hawaii?
Starting point is 00:21:19 You know, all the tech stocks are taking hits right now. Everything coming out of the bay is real volatile right now. And people ain't touching too much of it, but I'm buying some Stanford, baby. I'm buying some Cardinals. Alex Howell sold me. I love a guy that hates his rivals. DeVita Pritchard hates his rivals. They talked about, hey, the ax belongs to us.
Starting point is 00:21:41 And they went out there and they grinded out a win. It was ugly. It wasn't pretty. But again, every win is like a baby. And Julian, has anybody ever said, yeah, my kid's ugly. I don't love it. Just looking at it? Certainly someone has, but most people.
Starting point is 00:21:56 It's not normal. It's not normal. Most people say this ugly is my baby is mine. That's my baby. It looks a little funny. It got a unique face, but it's my baby. And at the end of the day, Stanford, congratulations on your first of at least four.
Starting point is 00:22:09 I'm buying. I am buying the Cardinal. Let's go, Cardinal. Okay. I love it. Like, Alex, great. Going to have to have him back on. And the fact, he just, he went up and looked at it.
Starting point is 00:22:21 He's like, look, guys, Cal's a little brother. We're going to beat him again this season. I love you, bitchy all the hate. I feel like rivalries are too buddy, buddy. obviously like Kenton and I I mean we kind of just met like a few weeks ago so we're not going to be anywhere points that we're going to be able to like hate
Starting point is 00:22:37 like the way we will as we get to know each other better we'll see it as we get closer to Thanksgiving weekend the hate will spew but right now it's all friend it's all copacetic still looking for six in the row baby still looking for six of these in a row and look hope I have the hope that maybe that's not going to happen
Starting point is 00:22:53 if Carolina can play the defense they play the way they played on Saturday and State can look like they looked on Saturday offensively. So there is hope, at least sitting here on the first of September. That's tough for me, man. I have big concerns about the offensive line after the left tackle, Nicky Prongos, right guard, Simi Pallet didn't play on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:23:13 And they lost their center of the transfer from Harvard, Aidan Kilstrom in that game and really struggled offensively until that final drive to move the ball. That's not going to bode well for Friday night against Miami. It didn't really matter who was playing up front. They were going to get wrecked by Miami's defensive front. sorry Alex and all the Stanford Cardinal fans out there. That was going to happen. They're going to beat Elon.
Starting point is 00:23:34 I hope they don't because, I mean, that's my alma mater there, but they're going to beat Elon. And then look, I'm trying to find the other wins at this point in time. State can lay an egg. We know it. We just saw it. We saw it. The game going cross-country Friday night.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Now, State does have the buy week, I believe, before that game. So that will help them in their preparation going out there. So that could be a win. That Stanford gets. Georgia Tech. I haven't seen them play, but I doubt that one. SMU, they did it last year when they went to the bay and lost a cow, so it's certainly possible.
Starting point is 00:24:05 And as Alex Hal told us, they own cow. So do I buy, do I'm not going to buy Stanford? At four? At four? That's two. That's two. I guess, that's good at Elon after Notre Dame because they're going to get probably smoked by the Irish. I'm going to stand, Pat, with my three and nine right now.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I need to see Duke. They're going to get a buy week before playing at Duke. That's helpful. I need to see Duke. I need to see Duke. I need to see Duke. I need to see those two teams before being able to move forward with a four and a eight for Stanford. So I'm sorry, guys.
Starting point is 00:24:43 I want to do it. I just, I can't right now. But Kenton's got you, which Kenton's got to. I got you. I'm by, listen, listen.
Starting point is 00:24:52 What did I, what did Zell Washington say? And remember the tights, I don't scratch my head unless the ditches. I don't dance unless I hear music. I ain't buying no damn stock unless I really believe in you. And Stanford, I believe in you. Again, am I saying this team is going to be good?
Starting point is 00:25:06 No. Do I expect them to make a bowl game? No. But am I expecting them to get to four? I think they can do it. I think they're going to catch one team by surprise in terms of one of the upper end teams in the league. And I think one of the lower end teams of the league, they're going to be in a dog fight.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And the beauty of a dog fight is if you've got a great Mike linebacker and a great running back in a dog fight, that's second only to having a great quarterback and a great edge rush, or third only to those two things. Those are the things where I would say, if you're in a dog fight, that's the priority I want.
Starting point is 00:25:38 First thing, a quarterback that gets it done. I'm not exactly sure. Second thing, edge rusher. They don't have that. But Matt Rose and big old Michael Ford back there, you got what you need to win a rock fight. If you can just break one of those teams down to say, it's going to be ugly,
Starting point is 00:25:55 this is going to be 17 to 10. Who wants it more? I think I can get them one. I think I get them one. One like that, that equals three. Now you just got to find one more to generate. Just one more somewhere in there. Stanford, I believe in you. I believe in you. And of course, the battle for the axe is the battle for the axe. It's always what it is, baby. So I'm excited about it. I'm ready to see. Yeah, the way look at it is like you beat Elon, you're going to have to probably steal one of these cross-country road trips and in all likelihood. do it early at Duke or at week and then try to get somebody sleeping, whether that P. George attack or NC State or SMU late in the season,
Starting point is 00:26:32 that's the path to four wins and hitting the over for Stanford. So like what I saw from Davis Warren and those freshman receivers, Michael Ford as well, and like what I saw from the defensive line. So good things from Tavita Pritchard and a Stanford Cardinal on Saturday night. Let's see they can do it on Friday when they welcome Miami Hurricanes. But that's going to wrap up this edition of the Lockdown-ACC podcast for a lockdown podcast network, where your host, as always, Julian Counsel and Kenton Gibbs. Again, y'all subscribe and follow the show for free over on YouTube
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