Locked On ACC - Daily College Football & Basketball Podcast - Can Clemson Tigers' Cade Klubnik Maintain His #1 Quarterback Ranking?

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

Pro Football Focus's top 10 quarterbacks list sparks debate as it features ACC stars like Cade Klubnik from Clemson and Carson Beck from Miami. The discussion, led by Alex Donno and Kenton Gibbs, dives into the merits of these rankings and the potential of other ACC quarterbacks, including Georgia Tech's Haynes King.The conversation shifts to ACC basketball, where predictions for the NCAA tournament are analyzed. With only four teams—Duke, Clemson, Louisville, and Wake Forest—expected to make the cut, the hosts explore the reasons behind this trend and identify underachievers like UNC.Join the conversation for a deep dive into the ACC's football and basketball landscapes, and discover which teams and players are poised for success.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Turbo TaxReady for stress-free taxes and the most money back, guaranteed? Head over to TurboTax.com today and get matched with your Expert. Only available with TurboTax Live Full Service. Real-time updates only in the iOS mobile app. See guarantee details at TurboTax.com/guarantees. ROYDownload the Roy app now from the App Store and start backing your favorite athletes the way they deserve—with transparency, trust, and a real impact. This is the future of college sports. Join it now by downloading Roy and supporting your favorite players! FanDuelRight now, new FanDuel customers can get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in Bonus Bets if your first FIVE DOLLAR bet wins!Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started. Bet with FanDuel—Official Partner of the NBA. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

So pro football focus has three ACC quarterbacks in their top 10 for next year. But how bad did they screw this list up? You are Locked on ACC, your daily podcast on the Atlantic Coast Conference. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. Shout out to the Everydayers and thank you so much for making Locked on ACC, your first listen and your first watch today. We're available free wherever you get your podcast. We're free on YouTube.

We're part of the Lockdown Podcast Network. your team every day. On today's episode, we will, we'll talk some hoops as well. How many ACC teams are going to make the NCAA tournament and why is it so disappointing compared to the last few years? Let's start off though, Kenton Gibbs, by the way, he's from Lockdown, Wolfpack. I am Alex Dono from Lockdown Keynes. Pro Football Focus has their top 10 quarterbacks list for 2025. We'll talk about big picture reactions, but also ACC sports. specific. So you've got three ACC quarterbacks who made the cut,

actually five from the SEC. So the ACC, the conference of quarterbacks is a little bit behind based on their preseason projections with Kate Klubnick coming in at number one in the nation. Carson Beck at number three, Kevin Jennings from SMU at number 10. That's who

makes their cut. You agree with all those? Should anyone be ranked differently? I can't believe a world where a quarterback who threw three interceptions, two of which were called back, but one of which ended the game against Notre Dame ends up being on this list as a top five quarterback. Old Drew Aller at number four.

P.U! That brother stinks! Now, everybody else I do feel like for the most part, they're right where they need to be. I mean, K. Klubnick took massive leaps forward at the end of last year compared to not only, you know, last the previous year before that, but literally the first half of the season to the second half of the season, it looked like two different guys out there. Really not even half of the season. It was like free Georgia post-jurvy, you know, like it was pre-curvy and post-curvy. Cade looked like the man after that game. He dominated with his legs, with his arm.

He did it all for Clemson. And so, you know, that one makes sense. Sam Levitt makes sense. Carson Beck there. Again, I'm not the biggest fan, but he belongs because who else are you going to put there? Who else are you going to put there is the question, right? Garrett Nussmeier put up big numbers last year and he's ranked two spots by. I'm just, and I don't want to try to debunk the Beck thing at number three because I like it. But, you know, Nussmeier put up big numbers last year at LSU. Here's the thing. If you drop Drew Aller out of this and you ship Beck and Nussmire, I'm not bad. You know, I'm not like, that's not one of those things I'm committed to and it be. for what another guy that's on this list I'm like what did he do how did he earn this

arch manning what well you know why he's on there I mean two reasons number one the family tree number two he's a horn long horns you're not wrong but I mean donna if I tell you the teams that he played against you literally would not believe me and when I say like Like, you would not believe me. I'm not kidding at all. Would you be interested in some UTSA football, perhaps? Roadrunners. I wouldn't be interested.

No, I would not. Well, maybe I can interest you in a little Warhawk football, a little ULM football. What do you think about that? I'm good. I'll pass. Okay, well, so far, we have the biggest chunk of Archmanning stats in those two games. But you know what? I saved the best for last.

I saved the squad, you know, we've got ULN, we got UTSA. What if I told you he put up big numbers against the SECT? Oh, tell me more. The might, the great, the indefatible Mississippi State ball dog. What's the thing? What's the big? Does that interest you? No?

I mean, a little bit more than UTSA, but no, not my. Oh, okay. well, against ULM, 50% completion, is two interceptions, two touchdowns. You know, I don't, what are we doing, Nick? DJ Lagway absolutely belongs. Tommy is an interesting one. At his best, I could see.

Well, hold on, hold on, hold on. I don't, I don't want to be that guy because I, and I know, because obviously I'm a Miami guy. I saw DJ Lagwebs. Uh-oh. First ever appearance, first ever appearance in college last year through an interception to Miami. Don't you?

defense it back when he was laying up. But here's the thing, Kenton, I know there's all this DJ Lagway Mystique, but the guy threw 12 touchdowns to nine interceptions and he threw for 1,800 yards and change. Let's not pretend he's put in this full resume where everyone knows for sure that DJ Lagway is the second coming. Has he shown some flashes? Absolutely.

But if you talk about, you know, and actually Lagway's probably played against better teams than Arch Manning has. I'll give him that. But Lagway doesn't have this great full resume. The guy, the guy's played in a handful of games, and he looked up. Can I ask you a question, Donald? Yeah. Name me any one of DJ Lagway's receivers that's going to hit her name call,

and it's up cooking drive. Anyone on them? Yes. Who, oh, man, I can't read. I, I, I, hold on. If you let me pull up Florida stat. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hey, listen, take your time with that.

Take your time with that. Hold on. But that's my point. But that's my point. I don't need long. I don't need long. You've got multiple guys on that. Elijah Badger and Eugene Wilson.

Boom. And I know Wilson missed some time. Badger had a good year. Elijah Badger had a good year there. And here's the thing. Here's the thing. You are probably right. Both of those guys will be,

their names will be called at some point, not early enough to go up there and shake heads and hugged with Dale. But their names will be called eventually. Texas, on the other hand, you're not going to have to wait around long to hear. And not just, wide receiver, the running backs that they had, the offensive line that they had, they had a full compliment of ball players over there.

So, you know, the situation was a little different. Sark was supposed to go to the playoffs. LinkedIn Billy was supposed to get fired, you know? So it's a little different, you know what I mean? I'm just saying, though, because like there's all this DJ Lagway mystique. And so when you bring his name up, I think people, who just assume, oh, he threw for like 3,500 yards and like 30 touchdowns to three interceptions last year.

They got through for 1,822 yards, 12 touchdowns, 9 interceptions. Like, doesn't have this rich, he's got some signature wins, but doesn't have the resume you think he has at this point. Here's the thing, Dono. You're going to make me say the thing that I don't want to say that we got to say. We all know that lists like this are meant to get clicks, okay? We all know that DJ Laguer and arts fanny are going to get the clicks. that saying,

hmm, John Mateer, may I interest you in some Mateer? He should be on this list, Mateer. I agree. John Mateer should be

on this top 10. And here's the thing. I don't disagree with that at all. The only problem is going into next year Mateer is going to be in a new office,

which people greatly downplay how much that impacts guys. I think that he's a phenomenal quarterback. If you ask me, Ken, will he be one of the top 10 next year?

I have said repeatedly and I stand by, well, it's always tough to have one-year rentals at quarterback. The position that has to have timing with everybody, he has the time to pitch right, he has the time to push pass right, he has to time the dig right,

he has the time to bang eight the correct way. It's very different going from the wide receivers I was familiar with, the past catch I was familiar with, and the playbook I was familiar with, to something totally different to where, yes, an end is an end, but they may call it a different thing. They may call that, oh, this is the Ohio scheme here. Well, over there, they call it the Lancet.

What, wait, what? It's, what do you mean? It's the same thing. So, you know, I, again, I can interest you in some job tier. You can interest me in some job tier. I like it. I like to see him be good next year. I just think the situation is a little different based on the fact that Oklahoma's got who coming back

a receiver and a new quarterback and the new offensive coordinator. Yeah, well, okay, the point you just brought up, I think, weighs very large because I've got something to say about the placement of the ACC quarterbacks on this list. Plus, are they leaving anybody out, Kenton? Should anybody else from the ACC be on here? Because the conference of quarterbacks only has three out of the 10. You want to keep it locked. We're only getting started on this brand new episode of Lockdown ACC. Guys, I'm only getting started with TurboTax. Folks, it is tax season. I know we're all working on them, but don't work too hard, guys. because taxes was dealing with piles of paperwork and frustrating forms. And then waiting and wondering and worrying if you're going to get any money back. Now, taxes is easily uploading your forms to a turbo tax expert who's matched to your unique tax situation, an expert who's backed by the latest technology, which cross-checks millions of data points for 100% accuracy. While they work on your taxes, you get real-time updates on their progress.

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Depending on when you guys watch this, the game may already be over or the game is about to start, depending on when you guys listen to this episode. So I'm definitely, I'm rooting for the pack. That's like my adopted second team, thanks to Kenton's influence. And Kenton, Miami's got Florida State in basketball tonight. I don't know these aren't the best versions of Miami versus FSU, but it always means something in this rivalry. And I know Matthew Cleveland on Miami who, you know, transferred. from Florida State a couple seasons ago,

has been putting up big numbers leading Miami and scoring this year. He always has something extra to play for. Usually doesn't play that well against his former team, but maybe tonight is the night that he lets this loose. But sticking with this conversation on top 10 quarterbacks, so you've got, let me run through the whole list for everybody, top 10 quarterbacks for the 2025 season, according to pro football focus.

So this is very analytics-based, which is PFF's thing. They got Cade Clubnik at Clemson at number one. Sam Levitt, Arizona State at two. Carson Beck at Miami three. Drew Aller, Penn State, four. Garrett Nussmeier, LSU 5. Arch Manning, six. And you talked about Arch Manning's resume, Kenton.

Arch Manning is also second in preseason Heisman odds. So there's a lot of hype. I'm sure that has a lot to do with the oil money over there in Austin. They're all throwing their money on Arch to win the Heisman. DJ Lagway at Florida, number seven. Diego Pavia Vanderbilt number. By the way, Diego Pavia, I understand that there's Mystique there because Vanderbilt had

like a nice Cinderella season. They beat Alabama. They were bowl eligible, which is big for Vanderbilt. And they beat Alabama last year. Pavia played great, of course, in that game. Diego Pavia was 81st in passing last year, Kent. Like 81st in past, though, you know, the mystia. But he said, baby, we're turk. He said it.

Yeah. It went viral. He said, Vandy, we're effing turd, you know. But again, this went viral. The aura is exceeding the actual play in this way. And Nico as well in Tennessee. Like, you know, it's not as if he was the driving force in Tennessee's college football playoff appearance last year.

But Nico I always struggle. I think everyone struggles. Everybody struggles. Yeah, everybody struggles with Nico. But I will say, 19 touchdown passes to five. not great not exactly worth that eight mill a year or whatever the number is that they said he's getting that not exactly cut the mustard there then you got kevin jennings lSU at number 10 he's the third acc now the acc only has three but they do have two in the top three now when you were when you were talking about like kate klubnick a big reason why he's there because i don't necessarily think kate klubnick is the best quarterback in the country but i do value

the continuity and the fact that he's going into his super senior season and that he builds off a good year from last year. Clemson brings most of their supporting cast back. You've got the continuity from the same head coach, the same offensive coordinator, the same quarterback. So while I don't think Cade Clefink is the most talented quarterback, I can, I can, you know, I can go with you on on ranking him at the top. And you know, it's interesting, Kenton. And hopefully, hopefully Carson Beck proves me right because I think he can have a really good season behind Miami's offensive line and all that. But out of these 10, Carson Beck is the only transfer on the list. You notice that? So when you talk about the value of continuity, there's only one transfer in

this top 10 list, and that's Carson Beck. But you know what? A lot of the quarterbacks who performed well last season, including Cam Ward, including Dylan Gabriel, they were transfers. So it's not like there's any reason a transfer can't necessarily go and catch lightning in a bottle at their new spot. I don't think that there's reason to believe they can't be very good at their new spot. But I think it's a little, I think we're misleading the people a bit by not giving the full context. Cam Ward was a one-year rental. The one up in Oregon, he was there for multiple years before he fully got to be the guy. he was in this final year.

I'm not saying that, hey, you know, everybody needs to be three years at their new spot to figure it out. But look at Joe Burrow, year one to year two. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's plenty of guys like that that. Hey, Gabriel was only there one year. He was at Oklahoma before that. He was at Oklahoma and just the one year at Oregon.

Oh, okay. I thought he was at Oregon the year before. Apologies. That's on me. That's on me, fans. Hey, y'all are right. I don't know anything like I'll always tell me. But in all seriousness, in all seriousness.

I think that those two are much more of the outliers than the norms, because you look at quarterbacks who were really good at their last stops, and then they transferred, and it was like, who is this young man that we are watching? What is this? Or it took him multiple years to come along. If we want to stick with the ACC, Jordan Travis at Florida State, look at who he was later in his time as opposed to the first year he was there. If you want to talk about a one year guy that floundered in his new spot,

Devin Leary going from being a. an ACC preseason player at a year to complete obscurity virtually at Kentucky. And I'm not just, I'm not taking a shot at that young man and said, oh, he's, he's terrible, he's a bus, he's whatever. But statistically speaking, it does not go well for one year rentals more often than now. So that's not necessarily like a, it's impossible to do. But if you look at the guys who have had success in their one year in a new spot, those guys, Dylan Gabriel made me the first one.

that's not talked about in like a top five draft pick kind of way. Everybody else, you look at Cam Newton years ago. He was the number one draft pick. You look at Justin Fields, who was great in his first year. He's a guy that ended up being a number two overall pick behind Trevor Lawrence.

You look at Cam Ward, a guy that we all know, he's going to be somewhere in that top five. He's not making it out of top five. Although I have heard that there are character concerns there. They should let him slide to about 28. I just think that nobody in the first 27 picks. I think everybody in the first 27th,

he's a bad guy that can't. Have you seen his hair? He just looks very unprofessional. He doesn't look quarterbacking enough to me. So let him slide down with 28. Oh, hold on. Let me guess who has that 28 pick. Is it your Detroit Lions?

Are they picking 28? What? Don, no, that's not important. That's not important at all. I don't know why. It reminds me of, I know that this was before, certainly before your time, even like two years before my time, but as a lifelong Miami Dolphin fan, I know all the stories.

You know, Dan Marino was drafted. I think he was the very last pick of the first round. And there were like some, you know, drug rumors, like, oh, he might have been too much on the wacky tobacco. And a lot of people think Don Shula started that rumor to make sure that Dan fell to the final pick of the first round. All I was saying is GMs need to do their due diligence on that. young man. You know, I'm joking. He's a fantastic young man by all accounts. I'm sure he's going to be happy with wherever he goes in that top five. But in all seriousness, being a transfer guy that plays well in your first year, instantly, instantly, instantly puts you at a level where it's like,

oh my God, he's a man amongst boys for a reason, because it's not an easy ordeal. It's just not. The latest, by the way, on this sidebar we're on, the latest report that I saw about Cam Ward, you know, and like you said, I've seen him most of the mock drafts at this moment have him going number one to the Titans. I've seen a few mock drafts that have him fall in a few spots. But the latest rumor that I heard today was that the New York Jets might actually be trying to put together a trade package to trade into number one to get Tennessee's pick and draft Ward number one. And obviously the Jets and, well, both teams in New York need quarterbacks. The Jets and the Giants are quarterback hungry. So again, you don't believe anything this time. When you start hearing reports about trades, smoke screens, fake news, who knows what to believe.

But that's the latest thing I saw out there on Ward. I mean, Donald, what type of guy do you want, right? You can have a Heisman winner that plays both sides of the ball. You could have a quarterback that comes from NFL Hall of Fame stock, or you can have a guy that put in half time on his team and a bowl game. Here you go again. Leave a lot. Let it fall.

Let him take a long, long slide. Don't worry, Brad Holmes. I got you. Let him take a long slide to think about it in the green room. Think about his mistakes. He needs time to do. Absolutely shameless. So going back to this top 10 quarterbacks list for next year.

So again, you've got Cade Klubnick of the ACC at 1, Cam Ward at 3, Kevin Jennings of SMU at 10. If you could put Kenton one more ACC quarterback onto this list, if you could slide one more into that top 10, who would it be? Hayes King, easy. Hayes King has got to be. Yeah, you're right. I mean, that to me is the biggest indicator that this list,

you know, what are we kind of doing here? Because Hayes King has been not just a driving force, he has been the engine to almost every Georgia Tech win over the past couple of years. Like, don't get me wrong. Love some Jamal Haynes. He and that offensive line deserve a ton of respect. Singleton, I've talked about him that knows him in terms of that man is a burner supreme. He is Lightning McQueen in his prime.

You see him? You don't see him. He's gone. But there has to be a straw that stirs the drink. and he does it in such a unique way. He is a guy that will do whatever it takes. He couldn't throw the ball because his right arm was jacked up. So what did he do?

Ran the ball 20 times. What the hell type of logic is that? Oh, I'm so hurt. I can't throw it. But I'm going to throw my body at 300-pounders. What? That young man deserved to be on that list. He reminded me of different styles of quarterbacks,

but I don't know if you were old enough to watch like the Byron left, which broken leg game where he basically like he was he was hopping on one leg and he's the offensive line was carrying him around and marshall and all that yeah i remember i remember watching that game live but like this dude is not human when my riah leftwood who's at marshal like 20 years ago but i remember that game like it was last year yeah i've been a football junkie from out the womb and that was one of those things i was just like wait the offensive line always carried a guy like that did they win the game what oh he's hurt he's hurt yeah great they had to carry him to the line of straight. Unbelievable stuff. We'll shift our focus to hoops when we come back.

So, all right, the experts are pretty much at a consensus as to how many ACC teams will make the NCAA tournament. And actually, they're at a consensus on exactly who they are. You want to keep it locked right here on this brand new episode of Locked on ACC. Thanks for making us your first listen and your first watch today. I'm Alex Dono from Locked on Caines. He is Kenton Gibbs from Locked on Wolfpack. We are locked on ACC. If you're an next to you're next to you're next to your first listen. You're a lot of your first watch. listen, make sure you check out Lockdown College Basketball, Isaac Shade and Andy Patton, like this is their time to shine, folks, as we get closer to the conference tournaments, the big dance coming up next month. Isaac Shade, Andy Patton, will have you covered on everything college basketball. So Kenton, Bracketology and the experts out there, like Joe Lenardi from ESPN,

who's Mr. Bracketology, Andy Katz, from NCAA.com, USA Today. They're pretty much all in agreement at the moment that there are going to be four teams from the ACCC who make the NCAA tournament and they're all in agreement as to who they are. I think there maybe could be wiggle room as to who gets that final spot. I'm not completely ruling out SMU forgetting, although SMU lost a big head-to-head to Wake Forest over the weekend, which could be a deciding factor on which one of those gets in. But Lennardi from ESPN has Duke getting in as a number,

number one seed, not surprise anyone. Clemson getting in as a number six seed, Louisville getting in as a number seven seed, and then they have pretty much all the experts have Wake Forest getting in as a number 11 seed, which would be having them have to play a in game. Last at large team would play in a play in game. So those are the four that they've got, and you actually did the research before the show on how many teams the ACC has gotten in the tournament for the last several years. It's been on kind of a downward tumble, but if we only get four in Kenton, that would be a low and I don't know how long. It would be a low since COVID canceled the NCAA tournament. Maybe longer before then, but I know at least then 2021, we had seven,

2020, 5, 2023, 5, and 24 was 5 as well. So, you know, to now sit here and see potentially expanding the conference, adding more teams and still getting less in. That's, you know, it's, I will say this in the ACC's defense, as much as the SEC

gets love for cannibalizing itself, the ACC never gets in football. The ACC never gets that same type of love in basketball. When historically, even as of recently, we see time and time again, all of these schools from the ACC,

Last year, a 10 seed from the ACC, you know, some group of jerks from Riley or something like that, got into the final four. Who did they play in the elite eight? A Duke team that everybody said, oh, that Filipowski kids are a little soft. The McCain kids always doing TikToks. They don't know who they are. They don't have the toughness. And yet they got beat by another ACC team in the elite eight, you know. And Hubert Davis has been to a final four with that, that.

tar hills team so you know the reality is simple to me i look at this and i say i get it the computers are the computers and we don't have that bias that that oh it's a committee that kind of gets to pick arbitrarily but it it does seem like the acc always outperforms the amount of teams that gets in almost every year to a to a high degree to where it's like all right maybe this should be consider it a little bit. Who would you say in the ACC this year have been the biggest underachievers? I mean, would it be, I know even last year, the expectations weren't that high, but they had that Cinderella to the final four. Is it, is it NC State? Is it UNC would be a more obvious choice? Syracuse has been shockingly bad this year. Like,

that's probably the list, right, of the biggest underachievers this year? Virginia, I mean, Here's the thing, right? Virginia has the excuse of our coach quit right before the season started. Like that is a very valid reason to say, hey, we knew that things were going to be tough. When I look at teams and I say, all right, who has underachieve the most of all the teams that were expected to be something good? I'd have to say it's a unit. You have to go there. Because you're returning a conference player of the year. Like, yes, losing Armando Baycott, he was a walking double-double and all like good stuff.

But you're returning R.J. Davis. You're returning Elliott Coddough. You're returning all of these parts that people are like, hey, they're going to be better this year. Yeah, there are some questions in the front court. But the ACC's having a down year anyway. They'll have their way. And then to not to be a team that's looking like your NIT bound when, you know, people predicted you to be, hey, after Duke, who's next? UNC has to be in that conversation.

Have they been in that conversation? Not at all. You know, you could say NC State is disappointing. NC State lost its top three scores from last year, or everybody outside of Jaden Taylor in terms of top scores from last year, what did you expect? You look at Mo Diara, who was referred to as Ramadan Mo for the way that he was, he ate nothing but glass.

He fasted properly, but he ate the glass. And he's gone playing in Paris now. in France now. So, you know, if you expected that team to return to that form, you were deluding yourself a little bit. Obviously, you didn't expect to be this bad, but you would be lying yourself, as opposed to a USC team that was widely picked as one of the teams that Duke is probably going to be the winner, but they can challenge. They could be a team that upsets the apple cart and that is not happening. We'll see what happens. We have three games tonight. SMU, a very important game for them against Notre Dame tonight at seven.

NC State against North Carolina at seven. I got my popcorn ready for that one. I'm going to be rooting for the pack there. And then a late-nighter tonight in Tallahassee, Miami taken on Florida State, which doesn't have tournament implications, maybe ACC tournament implications, you should say. Not everybody gets in this year. Three teams are going to be left out of that dance.

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