Locked On ACC - Daily College Football & Basketball Podcast - CFP Chair’s Contradictions Leave ACC Football Fans OUTRAGED

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

ACC teams call out the College Football Playoff committee for ranking chaos—can Miami’s victory over Notre Dame really mean less than a quality loss? Alex Donno and Kenton Gibbs expose the inconsi...stencies in Hunter Yuricheck’s CFP explanations, questioning the logic behind Utah’s high spot and the shifting value of head-to-head wins. With top programs like Miami, Notre Dame, Utah, and Louisville in the spotlight, the hosts ask: Are powerful brands getting a free pass while ACC teams get shortchanged?James Franklin’s arrival at Virginia Tech marks a major shakeup, while heavy-hitter coaches like Jeff Brohm and Rhett Lashlee commit their futures to the ACC. Key debates include Florida State’s coaching search—could Lane Kiffin make a jump, or is the SEC still king? The team breaks down pivotal Week 13 matchups and the playoff implications for Georgia Tech, Pitt, and Virginia. Don’t miss this candid analysis of ACC football’s biggest controversies and coaching moves.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!GametimeToday's episode is brought to you by Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONCOLLEGE for $20 off your first purchase. Terms and conditions apply.FanDuelToday's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. Football season is around the corner, visit the FanDuel App today and start planning your futures bets now.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The chair of the CFP committee can't speak for one minute without contradicting himself. You are locked on ACCC, your daily podcast on the Atlantic Coast Conference. Part of the Locked on podcast network, your team every day. Shout out to the everydayers and thank you so much for making Locked on ACC your first listen. We're free on YouTube. We're free wherever you get your podcast. We're part of the Locked on podcast network. now the number one sports podcast network, your team every day.
Starting point is 00:00:39 He is Kenton Gibbs from Lockdown Wolfpack and former NC State defensive linemen. I am Alex Dono from Locked on Cainz, and thank you so much. This episode today is proudly brought to you by Fandul. Right now, new customers can bet just $5. And if your bet wins, you'll get $300 in bonus bets to use a cross Fandul. Download the app today. We'll talk week 13 matchups because at least one team can clinch their ACC, championship game appearance with a victory this week.
Starting point is 00:01:07 We'll talk about the ACC football coaching situation because, yeah, James Franklin coming in is a big deal, but also other coaches who are staying in the ACC is a big deal. But Kenton, let's talk about the new college football playoff rankings. And before I pull those up for everybody, and, you know, obviously the big topic of conversation ACC related has been Miami's ranking relative to Notre Dame. But before we even get to that, when CFP chair Hunter Eurecheck, who is the AD at Arkansas, he's the new chair because they're going through chair people. It's a bit of revolving door with the Baylor AD having to resign in disgrace last week, unrelated to the CFP. He's got other stuff going on.
Starting point is 00:01:54 But, you know, Nicole Auerbach was interviewing the CFP chair. and he said these two quotes apparently within 60 seconds of one another. Hunter Eurocheck says that it hurts Virginia, that Louisville fell out of the rankings, and that was one of their best wins. So, okay, if that's your line of thinking, at least be consistent about that. Then he also said Oregon is still getting credit for beating Penn State,
Starting point is 00:02:24 even though the Nittany Lions fell off after that game. So because Penn State was such a high preseason ranking, Oregon still gets credit for that one, but Virginia doesn't get credit for beating Louisville. No consistency whatsoever. I'm very serious when I say this. This makes no sense. This makes quite literally no sense, Donald. I, okay, so beating Penn State means beating a good team.
Starting point is 00:02:51 A Penn State team that went on a six game losing. Street. Losing to the mighty powerhouses of UCLA, who I believe that was their first or second win all year. It was their first win all year. Losing to the mighty northwestern wildcats. Quick question, Dono. Do you know what city northwesterns is? It's in Chicago, right? Correct. You're a college sports maniac. Many people in ACC country have no clue where that place is. You know why? They've never Pista drop at any sport that's relevant to the people down here. Right, right. And then you go forward and say, you lose to Iowa, you get your doors blown up by Ohio State,
Starting point is 00:03:39 you play Indiana close. And that's a quality win. That's a quality win. With all due respect, Louisville has a better resume than Penn State. By a mile. It's not particularly close. Oh, I'm sorry. beating Nevada, FIU, Villanova, and Michigan State means something.
Starting point is 00:04:01 This ain't basketball. I'm sorry. Beating those schools means jack diddley. I was about to say something to make us lose our cleaning rate, but I got to mess up the money. This here is the type of stuff that I'm talking about when I say that the committee doesn't even try to hide their bias. They don't even attempt to hide their bias.
Starting point is 00:04:25 And then, Dono, you let me in on something very interesting about the head-to-head match-up thing that I want you to get into since your team is the one hurt by it. Explain it to the people. All right. So, I mean, everybody knows Miami and Notre Dame right now. They're both eight and two. But Miami's got a head-to-head win against Notre Dame. But the committee is clear to point out, you know, Notre Dame's been a lot better since then. And Miami had their struggles. They lost two. out of three games late October, early November. So, you know, the vibes haven't been as good for Miami. But then, of course, people and not just me, and, you know, I'm a little bit of a Miami Homer, I admit. But, you know, now even Paul Feinbaum is now saying this, which is crazy that he and I now agree on something, which never usually happens.
Starting point is 00:05:13 You know, Ari Wasserman from on three, a lot of national columnists are like, why, why is Notre Dame at eight and two ranked four spots above Miami? and Notre Dame's losses are great. The only significant win that they have to this point is USC, but their losses to Miami and Texas A&M are fantastic, but they have a head-to-head loss to Miami. Miami's ranked three spots behind them with the same record. So, Kenton, here's how the committee goes through their rankings,
Starting point is 00:05:42 all right, and this is how they actually rigged their own system so that they don't have to have a situation where they need to make difficult and profound decisions, right? They don't look at the entire field and say, okay, who's got a head-to-head against who? Should this team be ranked higher? They compare teams in three-team comparative pools. They'll take a cluster of three teams and say, okay, how does, you know, Ohio State compared to Indiana compared to Texas A&M?
Starting point is 00:06:12 How does Georgia compare to Texas Tech compared to Ole Miss and so on? And so since they've had Miami and Notre Dame separated by more than two spots consistently, they haven't had to rank them in the same comparative pool. And this is what the committee said. Well, I mean, we haven't been able to compare the head-to-head because they're not in the same comparative pool. Who makes the comparative pool? I'm pretty sure you guys are the ones who decide that.
Starting point is 00:06:40 It's okay. Since Notre Dame is number nine and Miami is number 13, and they have always been separated by four or five, even eight spots the first week, the committee by the logic that they created has not had to weigh the head to head. But it's interesting how the committee has Utah as part of that buffer between Miami and Notre Dame. So Utah, two losses, same record as Miami.
Starting point is 00:07:05 You know, you could say Utah's losses were to ranked teams, right? But one of their losses against Texas Tech, they got blown out. They didn't belong on the same field as Texas Tech. They lost that game by 24 points. Miami's last five losses going back to last year are a combined fewer than the 24 points that Utah lost that one game against Texas Tech 2. And they have the head-to-head loss to BYU, who's ranked a spot in front of them. It's weird how, you know, Notre Dame moved in front of Alabama. And I guess for Alabama, you know, the opening week loss to Florida State was bad.
Starting point is 00:07:41 But Bama has better wins than Notre Dame. So it's like the wins matter conveniently in some situations or then the losses matter. So they made sure Alabama, BYU, Utah are in that buffer between Miami and Notre Dame so that the committee, well, we can't compare the head to head because they're not in the same, they're not in the same cluster. How can we compare them? This is the environment that they created so they don't have to use logic. You know, Donnell, I want to know, and this is, I'm not joking when I say this. What metrics were used to rank Utah at 12? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:19 I want to know. Because according to ESPN, by their own metrics that they create, Utah is not only behind Georgia, Utah is not only behind Miami. They're also behind Georgia Tech in terms of strength of record. Right. Well, well, of course, it's got to be the FPI then. The FPI is what's given it. But how is the FPI created? It is based on your rankings.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Your rankings factor in to the football power index. The football power index is not completely, you know, detached from a team's rankings. It just isn't. That's just the way it goes. Well, then we say they must have a strength of schedule. That's what it is. Right. It's got to be something.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Their strength of schedule is clearly wrong, wrong answer forehead. they're behind Miami and that as well. So they're behind them a straight of record. They're behind them in strength of schedule. They have the exact same record. And yet somehow, somehow, we are sitting here saying to ourselves, well, you know, we're looking at this Utah team and they've got so much going on. Oh, you know, Utah's so good because they've beaten so many good teams, Dono.
Starting point is 00:09:39 their only win, their only win over 18 that is currently in this here top 25 is over number 25. And guess who was playing quarterback? Jeff Sims. Jeff damn Sims, ACC legend. Really, if we're being honest, ACC castaway. Oh, my God, yeah, he's terrible. He's been playing college ball for like 10 years. years and he's been bad for all of them.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Let me tell you something. That's the only man that looked at McCormick and said, I could teach you how to game his sister, buddy. You're going to learn your ways on how to get extra years from me. This is a sin, a shame, and a travesty. And I'm not joking when I say that because I'm so confused as to if the metrics say one thing and the eye test says a thing, why are we still sitting here pretending? yeah, this is something other than what we know.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Well, you know, Donald, it's about game control and style points. I'm sorry. You don't think that Miami earned some game control and game control and style points in this last game. What the wheels off of NC State? Sorry about that, by the way. Hey, don't apologize. Don't apologize. You did what you had to do.
Starting point is 00:11:03 And yet, we're still sitting here playing this game of, well, you know, Utah's really good. They're good for goodness sake. I need it explained to me like I'm a fifth grader. The only time they were on the field with another currently ranked team, the two times, they lost by 24, lost by three. That's it. That's it. So I think it's really a travesty that this happens. And Donno, this feels like when you ask your parents a question when you were a kid, you were like, wait, why can I do this?
Starting point is 00:11:37 or why is it this way? And it's because I said so. This is just because I said so with extra words in between. Oh, well, we can't count their head to head because they're four teams apart. Well, who put them four teams or two teams apart? Well, who put them two teams apart? Well, we did. So wait, you don't have to weigh the head-to-head matchup because of something you created.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Right. And because of that, I'm supposed to feel what? I'm supposed to say what? But it's foolishness. Yeah. And also, you know, an explanation that the CFP chair gave about, you know, why they're not in that same cluster. You know, he went out of his way to say, well, you know, Miami lost to two teams that are currently unranked. And by the way, that's because they chose not to rank them.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Like Louisville could be ranked if they wanted to, right? Like Louisville could be ranked, but they chose to have Arizona State in that last spot. So Miami's lost to two teams that we don't currently have ranked. But Notre Dame, Notre Dame. Notre Dame's two losses are to teams that are currently in our top 13. Do you know what he neglected to mention that one of those losses was to Miami? So now, and this is my point exactly. So before it was, well, we don't weigh losses.
Starting point is 00:12:55 It's about who wins. It's about who wins. And now we're saying, well, the quality of their losses is better than these other team's losses. And they got two. Well, okay, at what point do we talk about whose best win is what? Oh, well, we'll talk about that when it matters for the SEC. When it matters to put Bama in the position to where you could say, oh, they got two losses, including one to an Oklahoma team where John Mateer is playing on half a damn leg.
Starting point is 00:13:20 When it matters for them, we could say, well, that Oklahoma loss ain't that bad because they'd be Georgia. They'd be Vanderbilt. They'd be Texas. They'd be this team. They'd be that team. But then when it comes to Miami for whatever reason, now all of a sudden, losing to Miami means more than Miami beating the team that lost to them. Exactly. I couldn't have said it better myself. I don't, you know, again, I wish that they would just be more paternalistic and say,
Starting point is 00:13:47 these are the rankings because we said so. Yeah. Or these are the big brands we want to make sure get in and, you know, it's best for TV. You notice when you come on this show and you say these are the undisputed ACC power rankings, I like that, Donald. I like that because you're making a definitive statement. It's this way because I said it, damn it, and we're going to rock out with that. As opposed to the committee that keep lying to people and throwing in all these extra words of,
Starting point is 00:14:13 oh, well, we couldn't figure out. And they're two teams apart, but we put them two teams apart. And we just can't compare. And, you know, losing is better than winning now and up is down and left is right because the committee says so. Oh, man. Well, there's some conversations we need to have. First of all, James Franklin now being in the ACC, not only, that but keeping certain coaches in the conference. What does that do for the profile of the ACC,
Starting point is 00:14:40 but also kind of sticking with this Notre Dame theme, is there a problem with this ACC Notre Dame scheduling agreement? You want to keep it locked right here. It's Kenton Gibbs from Lockdown, Wolfpack. I'm Alex Dono from Lockdowne Canes, and we're only getting started on this brand new episode of Lockdown ACC. Guys, the NBA is back, and there's no better place to get in on all the action than Fandual, the official sports betting partner of the NBA. Even if you're not, you know, you miss the start of the game or you just want to ride the hot hand. Fanduel has live betting on everything from who will score next to fourth quarter comebacks.
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Starting point is 00:15:47 check out our other shows. Kenton, Gibbs, and Grayson Boone do an awesome job on Locked on Wolfpack. I host Locked on Canes. So a conversation, not only are Miami fans starting to have this, but I think other ACC fans are starting to have this. And okay, so playing Notre Dame in your football schedule, there is
Starting point is 00:16:05 an obvious benefit. And I'm not going to ignore that. There's going to be a lot of eyes on your game, right? It's, you know, Notre Dame is one of the most viewed teams in the country. It's going to help you put up ratings and all that. But there are clearly negatives to playing against a team that is a member of the conference in every sport but football. So, you know, obviously beating them does nothing for your conference ranking. And I think Pat Narduzzi figured that out, right?
Starting point is 00:16:30 It's why Pat Narduzzi said, hey, we should lose this game by 100. They didn't quite get there, but they did lose convincingly to Notre Dame. Because it doesn't matter for our conference schedule. But then in the case of Miami, and I've noticed other ACC, fans taking notice, if beating that team doesn't help you and that if losing to them clearly would have hurt you and them actually losing to you somehow help them, like a lot of Miami fans, now listen, Miami versus Notre Dame historically means something to me that used to be an annual rivalry when I was, you know, a little little toddler and all that and there's history there.
Starting point is 00:17:08 but if scheduling that team does nothing for you and even hurts you if you beat them doesn't help you by beating them, then I don't have a lot of motivation to ever put them on my schedule again. Well, here's the problem, Donno. It's not supposed to be that way. It's not supposed to be that way. If we had just a shred and by a shred, I mean just the thinnest of amount of objectivity in these rankings. There is not a world where that game does not benefit you.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Like you said, Dono, the thought is, well, their losses are the two top 13 teams. Well, so, so Miami's really good. We agree. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. So, oh, well, no, they're really good when it comes to who, who Notre Dame lost to. It's, they're not really good in terms of just them on their own merit. What? What? Oh, we're such a quality loss. But we're not a quality enough loss to be within a couple teams here.
Starting point is 00:18:19 It's, Dono, I get where Miami fans are coming from. However, I'll say this two shot pass because there's going to reach a, there's going to be an impasse in these next couple years. Because you can't, you cannot keep doing this. thing that ESPN is doing right now where if you have watched an ACC game on ESPN, what conference is all the commercials for? SEC. And they do segments and not just commercials. They do segments during ACC games where they're like, let's break down the SEC standings. Why during an ACC broadcast? And mind you, during one of the most competitive ACC races in recent history.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Yeah. We have four. Four one-lost teams in terms of conference losses going into the last two weeks of the season. This is unheralded. This is unheard of in the ACC. We've got guaranteed elimination games coming up between Georgia Tech and Pid. Guarantee. Somebody's going to walk out of there like, okay, we just eliminated that other team. Somebody's going to walk out of there saying, we just put ourselves in a driver's seat.
Starting point is 00:19:35 to where all we got to do is win and you're in. Somebody's going to say that, or if it's Georgia Tech and they beat Pitt, they can say, we're in. We did our big one. And yet, instead of breaking that down, we're breaking down another conference standing. So you look at that,
Starting point is 00:19:49 and then you look at how this committee, at every turn, has twisted and turned and molded themselves and found ways to say, oh, this team should be open this team, and this team is under this team. And we're asking ourselves, why does this logic not apply to this team? Well, because it's a slightly different situation and this is what's going on with this.
Starting point is 00:20:13 There are a bunch of teams that I look at in a very similar vein where I'm saying, what have they done to deserve where they're at? And none of those teams are in the ACC, not a single one of them. You look at Texas, your best win is Vanderbilt? That's it. Oh, I'm sorry, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Your best win is Oklahoma. Oklahoma. Okay. Your best one is Oklahoma. Okay. And then you would say, well, Oklahoma's best one is Bama. Who lost to Florida Street. A Florida state team that's have to fight and scrap and claw
Starting point is 00:20:49 to get ACC wins over first year ACC head coaches. Losing two interim ACC head coaches. And we're sitting up here and saying, oh, yeah, you know, these teams, the SEC, oh, you know, they were breaking in all that new stuff at Alabama.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Oh, yeah, because because Consolanos was the quarterback and Mileson was there. And they didn't strip it down to the studs everywhere except head coach at Florida State. No, no, no, no. They bought back everything. But they have one of the highest roster retentions in America. Did they not? Oh, no. But again, that's how this committee works.
Starting point is 00:21:22 This committee is working more like fans than an actual objective committee. Because if you're an objective committee, then what is good for the gander should be good for the geese. Yeah. And also like if you're going to have a truly objective committee, maybe having athletic directors from schools that are involved in the playoff race on the committee, it's not the best idea. I mean, the optics of having the Utah AD on the committee, while Utah has a somewhat controversial ranking to me doesn't seem great. And like people have claimed that, oh, well, you know what? When Utah is being discussed, he recuses himself. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:00 the optics still aren't great. Like you can't, you can't find a collection of people who do not have their checks signed by programs that are in the playoff chase. Like you can't find people who are unaffiliated with these universities to actually form the committee. It doesn't make any sense to me. Hey, Dono, in this hypothetical word, I'm going to have a son named Kid and Jr. We're going to call them KJ, okay? Okay. There are 25 kids, and we've got to discuss who the best 25 kids in the class are.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I have to recuse myself when I'm discussing KJ. However, I may happen to know the kids that are ranked near KJ. And I can tell you why KJ is a chip off the old block. Oh, I'm sorry, I can't talk about KJ. You know, Dono's son, he's a soccer kid. Who likes soccer? I mean, come on. Come on.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And then you want to look at, you know, Dalton Pence's kids. His kids don't got good Wi-Fi. Why would we put his kids in this space? Again, I'm not talking about KJ. Who's talking about KJ? I'm just saying Donno's kid play soccer and Dalton's kid has bad Wi-Fi. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, if you put them in charge of something for the class, Dono, they may muck it up. I just say it.
Starting point is 00:23:23 So, again, I don't like this idea. and it's foolish to think, oh, because you recruit yourself when talking about one team, everything else doesn't matter, as if you don't have a direct influence over where the teams that are near your team go. This ranking is an amalgamation of thoughts. It's not singleized individual thoughts
Starting point is 00:23:45 about what are your thoughts on just this one team. And then we'll compile that against your thoughts on just this one team. And then we'll compile that with all of these teams get ranked together. Get rid of the humans. bring back the computers. And I don't want to see no more preseason rankings.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I don't want to see no more rankings that factor in until at least week five. And those week five rankings should not be based on preseason. Because I don't care who puts the most guys into the lead. I don't give it down. Who puts more players in the league than Clemson in the ACC? Who? And yet, where are they ranked in the ACC this year? Bottom half.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Oh, okay. Who puts more players? players in the league in the ACC to Florida State. And yet, where are they ranked? It's only two, three teams that put in more than that. And they're going to do it again this year with Deuce and the big fella in the middle on the defense. They've got guys that are going to the league.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Earl Jr. over there as well. He's fantastic. Fantastic that guy. But guess what? A few fantastic players, a great team does not make. And now we're getting guys like Kippen saying, well, you should let Vegas decide. Yes, because.
Starting point is 00:24:56 We know how well Vegas picked the Heisman odds. We know how well Vegas picks preseason teams. You know, Penn State and Clemson were odds-on favorites for the national championship. They were odds-on favorites. But we should let them have it. Man, get out of here. It should be decided on the field. Who is winning when you line it up?
Starting point is 00:25:15 Yeah. But you mentioned the name Lane Kiffin, and it reminds me. I wanted to talk a little bit about coaching. You know, James Franklin arriving at Virginia Tech to me is very significant. I mean, you think about the state of that football program since the Frank Beamer glory days, right? To be able to get, and I get it, like James Franklin hasn't been perfect. People will bring up his record against top 10 teams. But I can't imagine where Virginia Tech's program is right now, them being able to hire someone better than James Franklin or as good as Franklin if he hadn't taken that job.
Starting point is 00:25:51 This is a home run hire for them. and the opportunity for Virginia Tech to have a program builder like him, right? Because even if Franklin has had trouble getting from point B to point C, but I can't think of many people better than getting you from point A to point B in terms of upgrading your recruiting, building your roster, building your program, all those kids in the DMV area that Virginia Tech has missed out on in recent years, you're not going to miss out on nearly as many with James Franklin, who's already proven he can recruit that area.
Starting point is 00:26:25 And by the way, if you haven't noticed the majority of Penn State's 2026 recruiting class, some of them have already landed at other places, but the majority of them have either decommitted or reopened their recruitment. I would expect Franklin is going to be landing some of those players, taking them with him to Blacksburg, which could be big for Virginia Tech. And Kenton, it's not only the addition of Franklin, you think about other coaches like Jeff Brom at Louisville, like Rhett Lashley at SMU, Brent Key at Georgia Tech, who have been linked to other jobs. You know, two out of the three have already signed extensions to stay where they are in Brom and Lashley,
Starting point is 00:27:06 and it doesn't seem like Key is going anywhere either. So the ACC is not only gaining a very good coach, and maybe I hesitate to say the word great, but he's, you know, great for Virginia Tech situation, and the ACC also seems to be keeping their top football coaches, which is massive. Absolutely. And I really and truly think that we're over, we're overstating how bad James Franklin is against top 10 teams,
Starting point is 00:27:33 because how many coaches have great records against top 10 teams? I'm fair. Like how many? Jeff Brom has a better, he has a better record against top 10 than he does. And watch this one, Donna. Watch this one. So James Franklin is 16% in top 10 matchup, 16% winning percentage.
Starting point is 00:27:54 What do you think Mario Cristobal's record is against top 25 teams? I recuse myself from answering that question. He recuses himself, ladies and gentlemen. Well, it's 30%. It's 30%. When you play good teams, it gets harder. And mind you, that's Chris Ball's record as a head coach. So that's not just that Miami when they were talentless and didn't, you know, the covers were very barren.
Starting point is 00:28:20 But this is his career overall. So this is not a knock on Cristobal, by the way. I want to make that clear. I think Chris Ball is a really good coach. But what I'm saying is the thought that like, oh, 16% against top 10 teams, if your name ain't Jeff Brown, how many guys are doing it better? If your name ain't Kirby Smart, how many guys are doing it better? Your name ain't dabble Sweeney. How many guys are doing it better?
Starting point is 00:28:42 How many? Point them out. Point them out. Jeff Kinney is beating a bunch of top 10 teams? No, I don't think so. Is Narduze doing it? No. Is Dore doing it?
Starting point is 00:28:51 No. Oh, well, they have different resources than Penn State. Yeah, sure. Look at the guys who do have similar resources. Is Jerome Moore doing a lot better? Harbaugh, was his record a lot better? You know, he was almost run out of town until some changes happened in that program. Some signals were stolen.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Hey, Donna, I don't want to give anybody big signals about what's happening here, and somebody may steal them. But the reality of this thing is, James Franklin is a fantastic coach, and I think he's going to get a lot better. And I want to throw another coach a question at you that maybe we could finish this thing off with. Lane Kiffin is a name that's up for a bunch of jobs right now,
Starting point is 00:29:31 and most of them being in the SEC. But when we come back, is there a chance that Lane Kiffin looks at Florida State? And does it make sense for any party involved? Because I just want to know, because Lane Kiffen gets linked to every job. So we've got to ask about our top job available in that ACC or that will probably be available coming up very shortly.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Well, I've got some thoughts on Lane. So let's answer that when we come back. You want to keep it locked right here. We're not done yet on this brand new episode of Locked on ACC. Folks, you know we're not done with game time. This is the only ticket app that Kent and Gibbs and I use. College football's back, tailgates, rivalries, the energy in the stands, there's nothing like it.
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Starting point is 00:31:32 he sent family members on Sunday to scout out Gainesville. Then he sent family members on Monday to scout out Baton Rouge. I don't know if he didn't think people would realize that like his ex-wife and kids were out there. I feel like Lane enjoys trolling even more than he enjoys. winning. He really seems to enjoy his name being in the news constantly, but there is a real chance that Lane is going to take another job and possibly not even coach his team who's going to
Starting point is 00:32:02 be in the college football playoff. Like he might, if he decides he's leaving, Ole Miss might nudge him out before the Egg Bowl to get a jump on their coaching starter right after the Egg Bowl, which is the end of the regular season. So it's like, it's crazy to me how Lane, like every coach at this level, you're trying to build towards the point where you get into the college football playoff and you have a chance to win a national championship. And what has he been? Six years now at Ole Miss has finally reached that point where they are, you know, barring a complete collapse, they're going to be a college football playoff team. And you're about to give yourself that opportunity to be a national championship head coach.
Starting point is 00:32:46 a program you have built, and he might walk away from that to go coach another program who's not currently CFP level. And I get like, I get it. The long term stuff comes into the conversation, but short term or long term, Lane is in a really, really good place right now. And if he decides another spot is better, he might just cost himself a chance to coach a national championship winner right now. I want to give Lane Kiffin a reminder from T-Bahs, chili, and left eye, don't go chasing waterfalls. Just stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to.
Starting point is 00:33:25 And what do I mean by that? You are taking your team to the playoffs and you're leaving saying, oh, Florida's got greener pastures, they got more money. Hey, hey, this is going to be great for me. Brother, how much money do you need? How much? And I'm going to also look at it this way. A bird in a hand is better than two in the bush,
Starting point is 00:33:45 because when's the last time Florida kept the damn coach? When's the last time? Yeah. Urban. You are a god down there in Oxford. You're a god down there. And you want to basically go looking around. Oh, yeah, I'm going to LSU.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Hey, quick question, Dono. How long after Coach O won a national championship did they fire him at LSU? A year later? A year. A year. Now, granted, there were some other things outside of regular football stuff going on with coaching those guys, sure, but it was not egregious to the point where the NCAA was going to step in and say, hey, y'all are cooked. I'm cooking y'all boys. Look, that wasn't the case.
Starting point is 00:34:29 It just was, he doesn't look as good as he did with Joe Burrow or whatnot, and that other stuff. You're going. Florida ain't kept a head coach since Urban Meyer. Ain't kept one for at least four to five years. you're in Oxford in year six everybody's geeked up about you everybody's saying this may be the team to win it all and I'm going to tell you something
Starting point is 00:34:52 you're one or two if you get to the dance you never know what can happen I give you a prime example and I know this ain't football but the Toronto Raptors a couple years ago there was no chance against those warriors with KD and Clay and stuff
Starting point is 00:35:09 and all them and then what happened strange thing happened. A couple of key injuries, boom, they end up winning that series. If you look at this situation for Lane Kiffin, you are a couple. And mind you, I wouldn't even say a couple of injuries because I think that if they make the playoff, they probably be one of the best five to six teams there. Yeah, I mean, they're number six right now. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:35:33 I think they'd be one of the better teams there. And so you would essentially be a couple of good draws, a couple of good luck of the draws, maybe a guy or two gets hurt on some opponents away from all of a sudden holding up that national championship trophy. And you're going to leave based on what? Based on what? And I do find it interesting that Florida State is the only job that he hasn't been linked to in any significant way whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:36:03 It's like, damn, you think that little of Florida State? Oh, man, that's tough. Yeah, we're like his agent Jimmy Sexton is not even like, I won't even bother using them for leverage, which is weird. But it's like, and Jimmy used anything for leverage. If you know Jimmy Sexton, that man will use, you know, a black cat walked by him today. We might be thinking, Missouri. What?
Starting point is 00:36:24 What? Where did that? Well, I mean, why do you think that is? And like, I don't want anyone to say, well, you know, Florida State doesn't currently have a vacancy. That doesn't usually stop Jimmy Sexton, right? Because we all know, like, Mike Norvell is every week. He's one loss away from possibly getting fired.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Like he just, he's living on that edge right now. So like, why do you think, why do you think Lane is not getting linked to Florida State? I don't know. That's a very interesting question. I think it's legitimately he has no interest. And I think beyond that, it may be a situation where financially they can't compete with what LSU and Florida are putting down, which is, which is confusing to me. Because if I'm at Lane's point in my career, like if I'm a young coach, right, if I'm some role per se, that. is a guy that's like, this is my first big payday.
Starting point is 00:37:13 I don't know if I have another one coming if this goes wrong. For Lane, this is going to be your third, fourth big payday. I get it. Alamone is a mother. I get it. Child support is a mother. I understand it. I mean, I'm not paying it personally because I have no wife, no ex-wife, no kids.
Starting point is 00:37:33 But I know many men who do. I understand how bad it can be. And in certain states, they don't put a cap on it. So whatever you earn, they get a cut. I understand it. But how much do you need? Again, this is going to be your third payday, brother. And if you do it well enough, because let's be real, let's be honest,
Starting point is 00:37:53 if you stay at Ole Miss, you're due for another payday. You're going to get another one after that. So it's a little bit confusing for me in terms of why he's not linked to Florida State because I think that's a quality job. I really do. Yeah, absolutely. And Florida State has shown a propensity. to be the opposite of Florida.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Florida gets rid of guys way too quick. Florida State will hang on even when you give them no reason to, well, there was that one time where we were really close to beating that one good team. Well, we did have that one year to work really well. I think we may need to hold on to us for one more year. We may need to give him another chance. After Norville beat Bamma this year, we all thought the town is saved, everybody, the job is saved. He's safe.
Starting point is 00:38:38 And then they went on to piss down their leg for basically. the rest of the season against any team with the post. So if I'm a head coach and I'm looking at my third, fourth, fifth payday, Florida State is a great location. Now, if I'm looking for my first payday and I'm like, hey, if something goes wrong, care, I may not get another. I get it. Go for all the money you can get.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Go for all the money you can make. But, you know, we'll get back into the week 13 matchups on our next episode. Now, the most important thing, the only team that can technically control their own destiny to clinch an ACC ACC championship spot this week is Georgia Tech if they beat Pittsburgh. Now, Virginia is the next team
Starting point is 00:39:18 that is closest to clinching, but they would need a couple of other things to happen to get it this week. So we'll break that all down on our Thursday episode. He's Kenton Gibbs from Lockdown Wolfpack. I'm Alex Dono from Lockdown Canes. We'll have a squad episode coming out this week as well.
Starting point is 00:39:33 We'll talk to you next time right here on the number one Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. day.

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