Locked On ACC - Daily College Football & Basketball Podcast - CHAOS: New RUMOR links Miami To The BIG TEN? | BC Names Their Starting QB

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

MIAMI HURRICANES to BIG TEN? Conference realignment rumors heat upConference realignment takes center stage as speculation swirls around the MIAMI HURRICANES potentially joining the Big Ten. Alex Donno and Kenton Gibbs analyze the pros and cons of such a move, discussing Miami's brand value and the challenges of cross-country travel. The hosts explore broader ACC reshuffling scenarios, including Florida State and Clemson's possible departures. Boston College's quarterback battle between Dylan Lonergan and Grayson James comes under scrutiny, with insights from AJ Black. The conversation shifts to a potential sports betting scandal involving Oklahoma's John Mater, emphasizing the risks for college athletes.Tune in for expert analysis on how these developments could reshape the college football landscape and impact your favorite teams.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!WayfairGet organized, refreshed, and back to routine for way less. Head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home.GametimeToday's episode is brought to you by Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONCOLLEGE for $20 off your first purchase. Terms and conditions apply.Monarch MoneyTake control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKEDONCOLLEGE at www.monarchmoney.com/lockedoncollege for 50% off your first year.FanDuelToday's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. Football season is around the corner, visit the FanDuel App today and start planning your futures bets now.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN)   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Fact or fiction. The Miami Hurricanes are now being heavily linked to the Big Ten. You are Locked on ACC, your daily podcast on the Atlantic Coast Conference. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. Shout out to the everydayers and thank you so much for making Locked on ACC your first listen. We're available free wherever you get your podcast. We're free on YouTube. We're part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. He is Kenton Gibbs, former NC State defensive lineman and co-host of Locked on Wolfpack. I am Alex Dono, host of Locked on Cains, and today's episode is brought to you by Game Time.

Download the GameTime app, create your account, and use code Lockedon College for $20 off your first purchase. There is, thankfully, this is not an ACC quarterback, although there was at least one ACC team interested when he transferred, but there is a betting scandal involving a starting quarterback in major college football. Boston College now has their starting quarterback. So that's one fewer quarterback competition going on in the ACC right now. But Kenton, I want to start with this because I was checking out Locked on Big Ten the other day. And Craig Sheiman is a beast. He does an awesome job hosting that show.

But you know he got my attention when the title of. the episode was Miami begging to join the Big Ten. I'm not saying it's not happening because, you know, obviously I cover Miami very closely, Kenton, but I'm also not having conversations with decision makers like the university president or the athletic director, people who would be involved in big picture stuff like that. I'm usually in the weeds when it comes to talking with players,

staff members football stuff, but I'll say it on the record. I personally haven't heard anything coming from like inside the program about Miami begging to join any conference right now. But I will say they're going to leave the ACC. I think the Big Ten could be a good fit. We'll talk about it. I'm not upset at Big Ten a potential good fit for Miami. I'm not upset at Miami potentially having talks to join the big team.

Begging? begging. So they're on their hands and knees groveling. Please, Big Ten, please. Won't you take, won't you shake a poor sinner's hand and help us out of this destitute situation that we are in? If anything, Miami is one of the few schools with leverage in multiple places. Like I have talked about so often with some of these other schools,

it is not about what you think you're worth. It is about what the market will pay you. Miami has a market to say, we can demand, we can have a bidding war and say, who's going to pay us more? What are you going to do? What's going to do for? You got to make some shake to get me, baby.

I ain't coming cheap. I'm not just going to join you just to join you. Miami has the leverage to do that because they are a blue blood. They are located centrally in terms of a talent hotbed in terms of South Florida. I mean, how many NFL players do you got through there? You know, like Kendrick said, how many stocks you really got? It's too many options.

It's too many NFL players coming from there. And then you go forward from there and you say to yourself, well, what could Miami demand from the SEC because they've already got a footprint in Florida? What's my, what's the SEC's furthest south footprint in in Florida? Gainesville, which is pretty close to the north end, Florida. Okay. I was just about to say, how far is Gainesville from, from the south part of Florida,

what you would define in South Florida. How far? Well, if you drive from Miami, which is like way in the south of Florida, drive to Miami to Gainesville, it's like five and a half hours, something like that. Five and a half hours.

Long ways north, yeah. That's about an entire European country away. Like multiple European countries. Multiple European countries away. And Donald, no, he's been to Italy multiple times. He's traveling. Oh, we were like, again, if you drive.

five minutes in the wrong direction. You're in another country. There you go. There you go. I got off the wrong exit on the highway. I'm in Switzerland all a sudden. But you get my point here. That is a very separate market from where they already have their footprint. That's like saying, oh, the Big Ten has their footprint in California because they have USC and UCLA. Sure, but you still have Northern California as its own market if you wanted to get into that as well. So Miami actually has the leverage. to demand more to say, hey, you have to respect us as a brand. You have to respect us as a individual and separate footprint from what you are getting

in terms of getting Gainesville and whatnot. I think it's foolishness to imply that they're begging, but I get it. Don and I've talked about this a lot with Drake Toler, not other conferences are getting in on it, anything for the clip. But I'll be damned if you take the click at the disrespect of an ACC school. I would defend the dirty foot club the same way. if I had to because I am here for the ACC, and we're going to protect our house,

which is the ACC, for as long as the state. Now, when these teams decide to leave, if Miami decides to leave, more power to them. I wishing the best wherever they go. If Clemson decides leave in Florida State, side, I hope the best to all of them. But while they're here,

you're not going to sit here and say, Florida State begging for SEC invite. Clemson begging for Big Ten invite. Miami begging. We don't beg around here. All of our schools that are the power, have the right and have the ability to demand a little something. Yeah, like I highly doubt there's like any begging going on.

Like I don't think Florida State is begging any conference. I think Clemson or North Carolina are begging anybody. We've all been linked to these schools, I should say, have all been linked to various rumors here and there. But, I mean, I will say Kenton and, you know, Craig Eamon locked on Big Ten is right to bring this up. And Drake Toll talks about the Big 12 angles. They are probably right.

I'll meet them in the middle in that with the long-term uncertainty around the ACC, where we're not sure what the conference is going to look like after 2031, you would say that, you know, people in leadership positions in these universities would be foolish not to send out feelers. Like they would be fooling not to, hey, like maybe I'm going to have a lunch with somebody who's close with the Big Ten commissioner. We can kind of talk, hey, what's your expansion going to look like in five or six years? SEC, same thing.

So you're doing your job. If you are a decision maker, administrator at any of these schools, you know, Louisville has been linked to possibly Big 12, you know, Miami, Big 10, Big 12, Florida State Clemson, you're not doing your job if you're not at least sending out some feelers and taking the temperature of the situation because, yeah, we might be four or five, six years away from another heavy round of conference realignment.

And you don't want to be the last one standing in, musical chairs when that music stops. Like you want to have a good idea where you might be wanted in five or six years time. Donno, we're seeing something for one of the first times ever in college football. And it's been done before, but it's just very rare. When's the last time you heard of a home and home in the same year, Donald? Never.

Okay. Well, Oregon State and Washington State are having a home and home this year. That's how it. That's how. So I understand. And nobody wanting to be the last person left holding the bag with, wait a minute, it's musical chairs and the music stopped and all the chairs are gone. You don't want to be that person. I get that.

But the idea that they're begging is where I take exception. Yeah. NC States athletic director, Boo Corrigan, has similar comments when it asks, how do you feel about ACC and, you know, all of the realignment of whatnot? And he said, and I'm paraphrasing here, we're keeping our options open. we're keeping our options open we're looking we see who's looking at us we're looking at who's looking at us so it's it's a situation where i'm not mad at the potential of anybody leaving i'm not mad at the potential that you know locked on a cc may not be a thing the cc as a whole may not be a thing as we know it in fabio i do believe the acc will persist i just believe it'll be in a

different form than what we currently know but i believe that when that happens the teams that will have gone will have gone with great integrity and pride about themselves. They'll have gone with their chest up and their heads held high saying, hey, I had to do what's best for me. I had to put me first, which I don't mind.

But to say that our teams are coming on their hands and knees and their lowliest dregs of rags and, oh, please, won't one of the power to come and spare us from the destitute situation we are in? and the Atlantic toast is blasphemy to me. Well, we got a lot more to unpack with this.

So the news story that cited this is from a website called Sports Talk, Florida, which I'll admit I hadn't heard of them, or at least not a lot. It's not a place that I go to get Miami Sports News or anything like that. But they do, they raise an interesting point about what the ACC could look like, life after Florida State and Clemson, with Miami potentially still being a part of that and all the other. So I want to get into that a little bit. Plus, when you're talking Miami to the Big Ten, there's a very obvious obstacle,

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Thank you for making Lockdown ACC your first listen. For your next listen, check out our other shows. Kenton Gibbs and Grayson Boone host Locked on Wolfpack, taking you through all things, NC State. I host Locked on Cains, taking you all three, all through things, Miami Hurricanes. All right, so Kenton, like you talk about potential obstacles for Miami to join the Big Ten. I mean, maybe five, six years down the road.

This is water under the bridge. But Miami is currently getting sued by a longstanding member of the Big Ten. Wisconsin is currently suing Miami over alleged tampering for Xavier Lucas. And the Big Ten has publicly, they're not part of the lawsuit, but they have publicly supported Wisconsin's lawsuit against Miami. I mean, listen, I guess you could say, hey, you know, up until five months ago, Florida State and Clemson were suing the ACC. They're still in the ACC. So maybe in a few years, the lawsuit would be under the bridge. But it'd be a little strange, at least as for right now, to say Miami is going to,

to join a conference whose prominent member is currently suing them. Well, we're using the word prominent very loosely there. Unfortunately, Ron Dane ain't walking through that door. Unfortunately, Russell Wilson ain't walking through that door. Unfortunately, Barry Alvarez is no longer the long-term head coach, and we're seeing backfields of Monty Ball and James White and all that. Man, it ain't happening no more, okay? But now, Donnell, I look at this a lot like I look at Texas A&M fans, you know, Aggie fans,

when Texas was considering joining the SEC, when they announced that they weren't going to resign with the Big 12. And Texas A&M fans were like, we're not going to let them in. We're not going to vote them in. We're not going to. And the SEC was like, yeah, okay, cool. Good for you. Yeah.

We'll do a vote. You'll get your little vote. You'll do your little one too. Say why you don't want them here. and then we're going to hear, you're talking about Texas with the Lamborghini line for players walking in? Yeah, we want them. Bring them all. You're talking about Texas with the big oil money.

That Texas is talking about it. It's the same thing with Miami. Sure, Wisconsin may be mad about it. And listen, Madison, Wisconsin is a beautiful city. It's a beautiful place. I love the weather there. I'm a cold weather guy. Love Madison, Wisconsin's weather.

You know, I love Camp Randall, jump around, all that. It's great. Great college atmosphere. Great college town. They do not have the type of pull and stain to deny Miami from joining the Big Ten. It just does not exist at the moment. Yeah, so I guess like, and Craig at Locked on Big Ten was saying this, you know, from the Big Ten's point of view, and you brought this up earlier, Kenton,

South Florida could be a very valuable television market to them because they don't, they don't have a presence in terms of a home team anywhere near that area. You know, they've added Southern California recently, which was huge. huge for them. So the Big Ten, if they were to add Miami, could truly become a coast-to-coast conference. You know, I know we, I know we joke that the big, the ACC is now that having Cal and Stanford, but obviously USC and UCLA are bigger TV draws out west. Miami's a big TV draw down south. Because at least like the SEC could say, and I know, like you mentioned Gainesville is really far north in Florida. There are a lot of Florida alums living in South Florida. So the TV ratings are good down there,

but the Big Ten doesn't have a presence down there from any of their alumni bases. And, you know, something that could be a mutual fit from both sides. Miami takes their academics very seriously, especially over the last couple of university presidents. And it's a designated research institution, which is usually a prerequisite to join the Big Ten. So it would seem academically like they would be aligned. You know me, Kent, and I think you feel the same way. I'm not a fan of the geography, like the travel miles that you rack up. At least like in the ACC, most of the teams Miami plays against are in a somewhat geographic proximity, right?

Instead of if you're in the Big Ten, you're having to go most of your games, road games are in the Midwest. Some of your road games are in California. But, you know, I guess that's no longer an obstacle, it seems, with the way these conferences are aligning themselves. so maybe that's too much of a concern on my part. I strongly disagree. It's always going to be an obstacle. We can pretend like it's not. It's always an obstacle.

We saw Cal won how many conference games last year, Donna. Ooh, I don't recall, actually. It must have been about two or three, two or three, something along those lines, right? Miami played them to a game that required multiple moments where it's like, hey, the entire game hinges. on this moment and a big drastic comeback to win that football game. Objectively speaking, Miami to Cal last year,

if you just look at their results of every other day and you put that into some type of computer and to formulate what the most likely outcome of what this game is, Miami should have dominated that game. But what happened? What happened, Donnell? You were up for a good chunk of that game. I'm pretty sure you went to sleep toward the year.

No, I had to do. You stand up the whole thing. I had to do post game until three hours after the game. So not a happy camper. So now what time did that game in, Donald, in our time, though? Because we're both in EST. What time of that game is? It was probably around 1.30 in the morning Eastern, maybe two.

I think I was up until 5 on post game. It was insane for me. So it ended at 1.30 in the morning. Those players were convinced it's 1.30 in the morning where we are. Right? and they had to go over there and play a football game until then. We can pretend like it's not a problem, but it is. Cal losing all of those close one-score games all over the place.

And everything seemed like, what's going on with Cal? What is up with these small, wacky little disfunctions? They had some of the most travel in the country. Let's go outside of the ACC. West Virginia has been stuck in that mold where everybody keeps losing all these random this game they had locked up. What happened? That travel that we underestimate and say it's nothing,

when is the last time we saw a team that's jumping from coast to coast win a national championship on the regular? I'm not saying did it once or twice. They don't. The teams that generally win national championships and go to the playoffs are teams that, for the most part, stay in their nice little bubble. They travel maybe once or twice a two-hour jump in terms of time zone.

but they're not spending the bulk of their season or half of their season darn near saying, all right, I'm going to go from California over to Syracuse, New York, and then back to California, and then to Miami. And then back, that's not what's conduc to the championship. Georgia doesn't do that. Bama doesn't do it. Michigan doesn't do it. Ohio State doesn't do it.

So, you know, why are we surprised? I mean, the team that's probably closest to finding success in that model would be Oregon. You know, they're like this close to being a true. championship winning team. So we'll see if they can pull it off. Absolutely. But Oregon has a whole other, they have a whole different level of resources than almost every other team.

That's fair. They have their level of resources compared to everybody else. Like they can't not, they don't fly private. They actually teleport. I'm sure like Phil Knight has found the technology to teleport his team. Let me tell you something, Dono. Some teams wear Nike.

They are Nike. Okay. It's a different. It's a different. ball game there. And even with them, they have not broken through. They've gotten there. They've knocked on the door, but even they have not broken through. So if I am talking about what is best for Miami long term, the money is a great draw. I'm not going to deny that. However, if you want to return to where Miami is back, to me, anything less than a national championship, Miami is

not back because that's the standard that Miami has set. And that's a beautiful standard. If you want to uphold that standard, do you want to take on that? type of travel. It's just something to think about. So there is, according to this article at SportsTalk, Florida.com, they do write something about what an ACC could look like if Miami stays in it, you know, assuming Florida State and Clemson leave. They say behind the scenes, discussions are underway in Coral Gables, Palo Alto, Durham, Berkeley, Charlottesville, Pittsburgh, Blacksburg, Boston, Dallas, and Syracuse about a potential quote unquote ACC 2.0, a reimagined version of the conference that could

resemble a power four Ivy League style alliance. I don't know if I would put that on the poster. Like if they're trying to sell that in a meeting, I don't know if like, you know, whoever is championing this idea, probably the president of Stanford is like, guys, Ivy League Power Four Alliance. That's probably not what you want to lead with. Great academics. But when you're talking about athletics, it doesn't get fans that excited. Don't know. Who's the last all-pro from Yale? Actually, from the Ivy League in general, who's the last all-pro?

I think he fought in the first World War, whoever. Oh, okay. Okay. You know, the last time I thought of a player from the Ivy League is like, oh, there's a fun story around them. Ryan Fitzpatrick and Fitzmaid. That's it. That's the last time there's been a really good story around the player from the Ivy League.

I'm sorry to tell you that is not a sale at all. You are going to actively undercut yourself with recruits and with TV market saying, hey, Miami, Virginia, Tech, no, you're watching the Power 4 version of Brown versus Columbia. Who wants that? Who asks for that? Yeah, I don't know if I would lead with that in the meeting. So, you know, if that's ACC 2.0, we need to come up with a new idea. But let's- 2.5. We need to get to 2.5 already if that's 2.0.

Yeah, we need a couple software updates before that happens. But let's shift gears and talk quarterback. So there is a significant update on ACC quarterbacking, plus a now SEC quarterback. It was a little hot water. We'll explain. You want to keep it locked right here. We're not done yet on Llocked on ACC. Thank you.

you for making locked on ACC your first listen. All right. So Kent, we've got one fewer quarterback competition now in the Atlantic Coast Conference. This was, I think, first reported in the media, and then Bill O'Brien confirmed it today. He spoke to the media saying that Alabama transfer quarterback Dylan Lonergan has beaten out Grayson James. He took over after the Thomas Castellanos saga last year. But Dylan Lonergan has beaten out Grace and James. for more on that before we comment on it. Here is our good pal, A.J. Black from Locked on Boston College. Here is his reaction and takeaway on Dylan Lonergan winning that starting job.

Dylan Lonegan named starting quarterback for Boston College, according to Pete Mammell. This has been a battle for the last two weeks, but Dylan Lonigan finally nails it down. He will be the starter, according to the report, against Fordham in week one. Still think we're going to see both of these quarterbacks quite a bit. So I don't think this will be the end for Grayson James. It's been pretty clear from practice from the last couple of weeks that Delam Arnigan looked like the strong quarterback. But I'm a little surprised that Bill O'Brien made the choice now. But, you know, with only a few weeks left, you have to make a choice.

It's going to be interesting to see how he continues to work with the ones and what kind of place he can make. You know, he's a former four star from Alabama. This is a big news drop for BC at practice, and we'll have full recaps of all of it here on Lockdown, B.C., and on our YouTube channel. So make sure you're checking out AJ Black for more on that and great coverage. And so, yeah, a few things I take away from that and also from what Bill O'Brien said, Kenton. It sounds like it is and has been like a close enough competition that nobody seems confident enough to say that Dylan Lonergan is the guy. Everyone's saying he's going to start against Fordham, which is the season opener.

So it sounds to me like Bill O'Brien's going to keep his mind open to what's happening in practice throughout the season, that Grace and James will have an opportunity. O'Brien emphasized, because I was watching his presser today, that it was a real competition. Like he went into it with an open mind and let these guys compete. So there's that out there. And, you know, Lonnergan, obviously, he's a former top 40 recruit, I believe. So this was a big time player coming out of high school. he's only played a total of eight snaps, you know, little relief stints here now and then

with the Crimson Tide. It doesn't have a whole lot of experience, but I guess when it comes to talent level, the cream rise to the top here. Oh, you're muted. It absolutely happened here, and I'm looking at this situation and saying to myself, you know, James had a great season, or not great,

but I'd say he had a good season in relief of Castellanos there. Casalanos for all the things that he could do, could not. operate the offense at the same level that James did. Let's just be very honest and very frank about that. Although he's not the athlete Consolanos is, he was a much better hey, on time, on target, get the ball out kind

of guy. Don't make magic, don't make anything special happen. And I think that that may have ultimately been the Achilles Hill here in terms of Lonnergan winning that battle. But even beyond that, it's the battle one, not the war. If you are into too deep,

for any position, too deep, meaning on the depth chart, you're the second or the first. You are generally one play away from being the guy. You are one play away. Grayson James won the guy coming into the last year. But did he end the year as the guy? Yes. There's a young man in Norman, Oklahoma right now.

I mean, played a snapper football yet, Dominic. Nobody's gotten hurt yet. He thought, oh, they bought in this great transfer quarterback, and I'm going to sit and I'm going to learn, and I'm going to soak up all this information. and it appears that he may be the guy all of a sudden. You know, football happens that way. Not only is it the last of the gladiator sports,

but guys make bad decisions. These are 18 and 22-year-olds. It's going to happen. People are going to make decisions that get them deemed ineligible or something along those lines. So if I was James, I would say just stay ready. And if I'm Lonoggan, good job on winning. Stay at it.

Keep at it. You could hear everybody said, you have you will be the starter but they didn't say he's our guy we're rocking with him he's our guy he's irrevocably our guy if he makes mistakes we'll live with that will will be okay i didn't hear that it sounded like he's our starter for now the way a j black said we're going to see james very likely in this season again he didn't say we're going to see him in mop-up duty maybe he said i know we're going to see him again that tells me something so i think it's a it's a quarterback battle that is decided for who starts game one.

I don't think it's a quarterback ward that's ended quite yet. So let's talk about the young man in Norman, Oklahoma. And listen, I can recall, Kent, and I did at least one Locked-on Cain's episode back in December, January, about the possibility of, you know, pursuing John Mateer to the hurricanes. John Matier, former, had a fantastic season last year at Washington State. It's Cam Ward's former backup at Wazoo. And so, yeah, there seemed to be.

be a little bit of a Miami connection. If nothing else, Ward could certainly vouch for Mateer knowing him very well. But ultimately, Mattier ended up at Oklahoma, presumably their starting quarterback for the upcoming season. seemingly, you know, maybe an upgrade over what Jackson Arnold was there last year. But John Mateer seems to have a little bit of a judgment problem here, unless this whole thing, it was a hack, it was a Photoshop, it was a misunderstanding. So, you know, I, I, um, one of the weird things. Kenton, if I'm, you know, sending and receiving money, I usually prefer to use Zell cash app. Because the thing I don't like about Venmo is, why do people need to see what I'm

sending and receiving money for? Why does this need to be like social media notifications that other people get? Like, it's a weird thing about Venmo. Now, Mateer, this is surface over the last couple of days, there are public Venmo receipts with the former Washington State now Oklahoma starting quarterback where he's sending money to some fella named Richard on Venmo with sports gambling written in the notes. Like he took the time to type in sports gambling. In at least one case, he wrote down the specific name of the game. UCLA versus USC sports gambling are on John Mateer's Venmo receipts.

So he's either got a sports betting problem or had the sports betting problem. And by the way, college athletes are not allowed to do that. So he's either got a gambling problem or a really poor judgment problem if he's making jokes and writing that in his Venmo notes. I want to make one thing and one thing only clear. Now, this is all alleged because when. I saw this. I thought we were being sentel. I thought that this was like a joke.

Like a ha ha, he put in sports betting. And then I start seeing more and more sources reporting this and reputable sources. I'm like, oh, they don't play around. Report it now. I want to say something right now to any college athlete who comes across the sound of my voice. Okay. I'm a Detroit sports fan. You know what that means, Donna?

James and Williams. and now Malik Beasley, two of my favorite players for my teams have gotten taken out because of some bad. And they're multi-millionaires. Both of those guys, you know, neither one of those guys looks at their check

and is saying to themselves, how am I going to buy bread and milk? Okay, neither one. Guys in college, whether you have NIL or not, whether you are crushing it and doing all these ads or not, whether or not teams are paying, you start quarterback money or backup longstopper money, it is not worth it to risk your eligibility and any future proceeds you could possibly get

to do sports betting. I know that Dono and I read these ads for sports betting all that, but I have told you all multiple times it's not something I do and do it responsibly and if you are able to do it with, you know, within reason. this is not within reason throwing away Oklahoma starting quarterback salary. I don't believe there's a bet big enough to make that make sense. I really don't. I really don't.

And again, this is alleged. So I hope that he just has a really corny, cringe sense of human. I hope that's against it. I really do. But if he doesn't, this is the biggest form of idiocacy. And the last thing I'll say specifically to ACC teams, Coach Dave Doran taught me many things during my time in NC State, and one of the most important ones was he said,

whenever we see stories of players doing domestic violence, drunk driving, anything that's very deleterious is going to get them in a lot of trouble. We clip it and put it in our thank you, pal. Do you know what that means, Dono? We look at you for teaching me a lesson. Thank you for teaching me the lesson, because as the old saying goes, it takes the fool to learn from his own mistakes.

the wise man learns from the mistakes of others. You have got to look at this, ACC players, and be the wise man. Say to yourself, I'm good. I actually don't need to put that same game parlay now. I don't need it. Yeah. So, maybe the last we saw, I know that there was a quote from someone within Oklahoma's administration saying that, you know, Mateer has denied any sports gambling.

and I think Oklahoma was going to release a more official statement later on today on Tuesday. So he's definitely going to go with a denial, which, you know, whether you did it or not denying it is probably the right move. If you did do it, you don't want to come out of a minute. So maybe he is innocent. I just wonder if there is an investigation, Kenton, how deep canon will they go? Because it seems like if he was betting on sports while he was at Washington State, he's obviously sending Venmo to somebody else to place wages on his behalf. So, like, he doesn't, he doesn't have an account at the sites, it doesn't seem,

which would be incredibly stupid. So, you know, is there evidence of that person then Venmoing him back winnings? If he wins bets, you are they able to trace the accounts of this person that he's allegedly making bets through? Like, I wonder how deep they can and are willing to go in terms of investigating this. I think that's the next thing we'll find out. That's a great question. and it's a question that I hope dies out very quickly.

I hope it's a question that we look at and the answer ends up being, eh, everything blew over, and it wasn't a big deal. And he is just a little, you know, that air up in Pullman had him a little loopy. And he put in some bad names in the Venmo request. Because again, if what is being alleged of him is true,

it brings me back to my belief that intelligence doesn't exist as we understand it. people just have competencies for different areas because the competency required to run dickert's offense at wazoo the competency required to run that at a high level that's that's something that's like a you know five percent of players ever could do but then the incompetency to not know the rules and say hey um maybe if i am going to do this illegal thing maybe if i if i got the it's that I got to scratch, don't scratch it publicly in front of people where they can say, hey, he's scratching an inch.

That's illegal to scratch. Yep, yeah. Yeah, so we'll leave it at that. Make sure you check out Kenton at Lockedon Wolfpack and at TGIF underscore Kenton on X. Check me out at Lockedon Caines and at Alex Dono on X. We'll talk to you guys again next time on another episode of Lockdown ACC. We are part of the awesome Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day.