Locked On ACC - Daily College Football & Basketball Podcast - Duke Wins Big in Blacksburg; Who Will Step Up in Round 1 of Blue Blood Showdown Between Duke & UNC

Episode Date: January 30, 2024

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Duke's defense helped them win in hostile territory against Virginia Tech, but will it be enough to beat Carolina in the big first round matchup between the two top 10 programs? Kenton and I talk about all of that here on Lockedown ACC. You are Locked on ACC, your daily podcast on the Atlantic Coast Conference, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. What's going on, everybody? Welcome to today's edition of Locked on ACC. I'm your host, Candace Cooper, joined by Kenton Gives,

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Right now, new customers join today and you'll get $200 in bonus bets if your first bet of $5 or more wins. Visit FanDul.com slash locked on to get started. All right, Kitten, I know it's going to be hard for us, but we must do it. Talking about Duke, picked up a good victory against Virginia tech on the men's basketball side of things and went into a place where they were. sitting at one and six when it came to beating the Hokies in Blacksburg. But good defense and just want to certainly put them over the home. You know, good defense, want to, and also some other guys showing up. I mean, you have to have in a game like this where you're going into a tough environment,

where you're going into an environment that regardless of what you say about Blacksburg, those fans are going to show up. And with that being said, you need you need guys to show up in a moment like this like a Ryan Young. Like that's the type of performance that you look at and say, hey, him off the bench means a lot to this team. Obviously, Jeremy Rose doing his thing means a lot to this team. This Duke team coming off of a pretty good win in their last game as well, you really needed to not sleep and not overlook anybody going into. the Battle of the Blues. They took care of business as they need. 100% for those that aren't familiar or have been sleeping on the basketball season so far.

Duke came off a big win, a 7271 victory against Clemson. It was a little controversial. Coach Brown was in his feelings. And maybe two now that we've listened to him and talk about it, it's really he wanted it for the kids. Because whenever you get to go and play in Cameron indoor, it is such a great time. And for whatever, you know, reasons to come up with the Nell, you figure out how to move forward. but Duke certainly could not look past this Virginia Tech team. They gave them all they got.

But I will agree with Ken here that not only was defense certainly strong for the Blue Devils, it was just simply Virginia Tech not being able to make clutch shots, right? You don't hit your free throws in the clutch. Free throws. I can't emphasize enough how frustrating it is to see teams not be able to make free throws in the clutch. You miss your last three shots attempts at the line and then, you know, you missing some wide open threes, missing, you know, smoking some layups, and that'll do it every time, especially against the top 10 team.

Absolutely. There's no offense or bust about it. And I'll tell you this much. For as much as people talk about, you know, Padula, Couture and all that they are, Padula has a little bit of that, what's that guy's name for Syracuse? I want to say, I know it was Naisal from Michigan State, but it was a guy from Syracuse. that if he's on Beehom's ball, there's in a tournament every year.

It's a forever orange girl knows the answer to this question. I know she will. Bloody Bayton? No, I'm just kidding. No, not. It's another dude, but it's a white guy who could shoot the blood out of the ball, but he just, he never knew when enough was enough, you know? He never knew when like, all right. He knows Gerard.

I'm here at Clemson now, but dang, no, I'm just kidding. It's not him either. It's, it's a, I can't remember his name for the life of me, but it's always that moment, that moment where it's like you have teammates, you can pass the ball. Shooting four for 15, you shot your team out the game, brother. And I get it. When you are the guy that he is, you have that green light in perpetuity. It has the confidence in him and it's the other part of it.

Like, can your coach is like, is it giving me a Caleb Love flashback? I don't know, I don't know. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Here we go. Or you can shoot yourself in games. you can certainly shoot yourself out of games. I think Padula just, you know, maybe with the crowd image,

he thought he could get himself going, but it really just wasn't there at Hunter Gator, like I said, smoking layups when we had to make them clutch shots. It just wasn't great for them. But, you know, credit to MJ Collins and Lynn Kidd for trying their best to keep them in the game. Like, there were some people that stepped up a big way. So your point of saying Duke had some really good teams,

some really good guys stepping up as well. Ryan Young, who's had a limited role this season, and you had in the cane stepping up as well. And, you know, we saw a little bit of Roach remnants of Roach of Old in terms of Jeremy Roach being able to make some clutch baskets and really command that team throughout that second half. Yeah, we saw that Jeremy Roach that was considering entering the draft. We saw that guy.

Stop it. What? Oh, okay. God knows. This might be the Shade Room podcast because it's giving. I'm wrong for saying he finally looked like an NBA player. out there? No, but it's the fact that you said he was going to

like consider the draft and like he had no business. So now who's being shaken? Now who's being shaken? I said he looked like an NBA player. And you sat up and said he had no business. Last season. I mean, there's plenty of people that

are really high on themselves that I think are one. It to how do I put this? Elite play. Come on. Elite play is just another level. And so when you talk to me about the elite, the crim de la Crems in the NBA, and then you tell me about guys who are really strong collegiate players, I'm like, cool. But sometimes just you've got to be a cut above.

And there's certain people that just aren't there yet. But might never be there. That's not their testimony. And you know what? And you know what? I think that, again, Jeremy Rose showed up and showed out in this game. And I'll tell you what, if he can show. shoot the jump shot at the level that he did in this one in the NBA, which of course, nobody's

expecting him to be an 80% three-point shooter for his career. Nobody's expecting that. But if he can come anywhere closer, that's where you say, oh, okay, this might be an NBA player. This might be a ball player to get him some run, do him a little some. Because before, like you said, had no business. This game, I can see it. I see the vision. I don't, I'm not saying, whether or not I agree or disagree with the vision, I at least see the vision. He definitely has to get healthy if he wants to continue to make a run, but they'll have plenty of time to do that as they talk through the UNC Duke matchup, which is what we're going to get into next.

We know that that is foul of the blue bloods, which, you know, for a lot for all purposes is back to being relevant to national programs who are in the top 10. And we know that this is only so close. It's not even funny. They're only divided by about four. 45 points out of the 750,000 that they've dropped into this game. But we're going to remind you just why this might be important in round one for both programs. But first, passion, driving patience.

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I'm just a girl. That's what it is. These dealerships see women walk in and they're like, oh, boys, we got an $80 oil change on our hands, fellas. $93. I said, oh, don't play with me. I'm calling my daddy right now. I'm calling my daddy right now.

$93 for a Honda oil change? I said, I'm calling my daddy right now. playing with me. But that's either here nor there. My point in saying this because it ties, right? Sometimes you feel like... I need to get another mechanic business. I need to get them. All you want is a

simple fix. You just want to be quick and easy. It never quite seems to be just that. And that's exactly what I feel like is going to be round one for UNC Duke. It's not going to be quick and easy. It's two teams that have definitely tried to figure themselves out, find their identity. And it's

taken a while, right? UNC is certainly, He's certainly been in the news more prominently than Duke this past season. They're sitting at number three while Duke is at number seven. But Duke did what they needed to do by beating Virginia Tech. I think I would not, if I'm a Carolina person myself, would not have wanted to face a pissed off Duke team that maybe got taken by the Hokie. So I think this one is going to be throughout the record books per usual. It's going to be bucket for bucket. But who is going to step up?

And that's the biggest part for me. It's going to be somebody released expecting. This could be Elliot Kado's breakout game. These two teams hate each other. Yeah. They hate each other. And that's what robbery should be. Robbery should be.

I don't like you. You don't like me. I think you're not as good as I am. You think I'm not as good as you are. We genuinely don't like each other. And I wish that, okay, I'm going to say this. There's some people going to get mad at me. But I'm going to let it ride.

I wish that there were more. more basketball rivalries take on a little different life than football rivalries. And I wish there was a little bit more football to this. You know what I mean? A little bit more violence, a little bit more I really don't like I, like there's like something different. Like with basketballers like this, I don't like it, but there's a mutual respect thing. And football is like, no, I hate everything you stand for.

Well, you know, football, a couple screws loose. You know, you have to have a couple screws loose to like, I don't necessarily want to go out and beat somebody up every. single play. So there's that. But I mean, have we forgot Montrose and the cut eye recipe to my dog, right? Have we got to forgot about Tyler Hansboro and Gerald and the bloody nose? Like it's been intense, right? There's been some, some, I will say in recent years, they all are homies. They do TikTok together. Like, this generation is lost, but fine. Whatever. All I'm saying is, I think it's going to be an Elliott Caddo breakout game.

I'm calling it now. I feel like he needs that little rile up. He's been waiting his waiting patiently, getting guidance from Marcus Page, and here it comes. RJ Davis is going to try and do his big money, but he's going to be well defended by Duke, but Elliot Cadeau is going to really be that for General. I know that Marcus Pages is still a lot, but Elliot Cadole feels like Marcus Page reincarnated, right? Like he feels exactly like Marcus Page did his freshman year. What? Okay, freshman year.

Okay, okay. Yeah, he's a true freshman. Yeah, I'm not going to compare freshman him to senior Marcus Page. That's crazy. Yeah. That's not fair to that. He is exactly that. He can distribute the ball. He knows how to rent everything at the pace. He lets RJ play off the ball and all that. But he just, when they come to finishing the soap, it's a little tough. It's a little tough. And then you look on the Duke side of things. He's finding it. He's finding it. He is. And then you look on the Duke side of things. And you're surprised because this team is, it's, you know, what Katie Perry said. You're hot, then you're cold. You're yes, then you know. You're in. then you're out, you're up, then you're down. You get Kyle Philibowski looking like the second coming,

the dirt, the whiskey. And then there's games where it's like, what's going on? You get Jeremy, and I will give Jeremy Rorsch, this. His three-point shooting this year, phenomenal. He has done something. He's found something in his game that, again, that will get a six-two guard to have a long career in the league,

the ability to hit that three-ball. He has found that, but then you ask yourself, is he going to play a little out of control? You look at Proctor, you say the same thing. He has those games where it's like, that's an NBA guard right there. He's got all the tools. He's got all the things. And then he had those moments where he's just like, who is this?

Who are you, man? And so this game to me is going to, like you said, come down to number one, the guys who are the unheralded heroes showing up. But number two, somebody stars got a star. I think round two could be a war of attrition where it's blow for blow. You don't know who's going to do what. I think in this first round, it's going to be about somebody stars showing up and saying, hey, you're not.

I'm a Maybach. You're a 300 C. You look like me till I pull up, buddy. It's going to be one of those games. And we're going to see. We're going to see if it's Armando showing, Kyle. Hey, if I got to get ready to learn Spanish, you got to get ready to learn to tell you because you ain't going to nobody leave either.

If it's going to be R.J. Davis getting showed up by Jeremy Roch & Project, it's going to be so. Is it going from the second coming to this? You pick a new name for this fan every show. And I'm crying. Harry Harrison. I'm going to call him Harry. I don't know what you offered me. I don't know what you offered me.

I'm going to call him Harrison. It's okay. I'm going to call him Harry. You know what? All right. All right. Here's, I'm a man of my word. If he personally requests that I call him Harrison, I'll give him that.

Now, William is still William. I'm not called that man Mac. But, yeah, Harrison, for sure. Hey, if you want to call him Harry, I don't think he's going to call us up. I could care less. I just found him funny. But speaking of Harrison, Harrison is the type of, you know, he got that dog in him that I think you

talked about a little spice he can bring it yeah yeah and you know what and you know what I love a tough physical ed I don't have a rooting interest in this game okay I really and truly don't I just hope everybody has fun oh my team's loose okay I heard you hey listen hey listen if I'm rooting for the asteroid you don't need to tell the fans that you'll need to tell them our listeners do not need to know that that don't matter no but seriously in this game I want to good basketball because at this point, you know how those people did the video, talking about Lamar Jackson, save us. Please save us.

That's how I'm looking at these two teams right now. Because the rest of the ACC, we are all looking like hot cross buns. This is just not looking good. Oh, my gosh. What is wrong with you today? You're not wrong. Syracuse actually isn't bad if I'm going to be honest. No, okay.

I'm trying to find it. Virginia. Some people are a little high on Virginia saying they might be in the national championship game. Just so you know, that's what our comments said. I'm just letting you know, final four, if not, or bust. Final four or bust. I'm just letting, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, Marcos Russell, because baby, this is the biggest bus you ever go see. Things could change on a dime.

You never know what this Virginia tech team. You said it. Virginia. Virginia. in there. Virginia team, you said it yourself. So we could try, find it. Who knows? It's a different ball game. That pack a lot of defense, you know, I'm going to let you do that read, but you're just saying. Happy Super Bowl to all who celebrate from Fandul America's number one sportsbook. If you're like me, Super Bowl Sunday is all about scoring the best

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As the week progresses, we will give you a great opportunity to tell us who you feel like the matchup is going to be best for head-to-head, as well as give you some, of course, football updates. Portal News, Miami apparently so far is getting a head start on getting things right in the portal. We'll rank who is probably the best of the best when it comes to our ACC school. We don't want to leave you guys out as well as giving some early, way too early, entirely too early predictions. But things are shaking, right?

I don't know if you want to give update on the Miami Portal News, but the people need it. So, you know, Miami got a big time commitment from a community college defensive tackle that is, you know, said to be one of the best in the nation. But all in all, the rankings for the portal out of the ACC so far go as follows in terms of our top five teams because Miami is just barely on the outside of that top five. And they're on the outside of that top five because of a new addition in Cal. You've got FSU at number four. You've got the University of Louisville at number six. You've got NC State at number 10. Syracuse at number 22.

Cal at 26 is the fifth ACC team. And of course, Miami at 30 is just barely, just barely outside of that group. And I think honestly and truly, I don't think people are giving Louisville their proper credit because this is a team that went to the ACC championship. And if they address that quarterback position in granted, your Ms. Thras is going to the NFL now,

that's a hell of a receiver that you're losing. You're losing a lot of talent, but you've got one of the best edge rushers in all of America and Ashton Jolati coming back. You have a ton of talent on that team that is going to be returning. Lots of guys who've experienced being right on the precipice. of winning that, of potentially what would be in this year's season, a playoff, a playoff birth due to winning the ACC.

And it was so close they could taste it. Last year might have been their knock on the door year. They might kick the door down, but nobody's talking about it. Everybody's talking about how great FSU has come on late in the portal. Everybody's talking about how good NC State's been. Everybody's talking about how Fran and company up in New York have gotten things rolling in Syracuse, but I'll tell you, Louisville has not even quietly, they very loudly put together one of the best portal classes that we are seeing. People say you were a little too

hard on Tyler Shuggler. I'm just letting you know what the people said. They said you're a little too hard on a quarterback position. Don't yell in this mic because it's loud in my ear, but all I'm letting you know is people say you need to relax. Quarterback is the only position where you can constantly underperform. And because some website told everyone you were good five years ago, people still believe it. Maybe you just need the right system. You know, everything. It's system.

Brock Purdy is going to Super Bowl. Come on. Mr. Irrelevant is going to the Super Bowl. Let me quote, my good sister, my angel. Oh, my God. When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time. Let me throw a little bit of kitten on it. Or hell, even the second time.

okay because now we're at try number three we're at try number three and you I'm not going to yell

because I know you're insensitive I want you get sensory overload but I'm that boy is the equivalent

of Nikki Minaz's Bigfoot disc oh my God it's mid

that we all saw coming and yet mid that's still here nonetheless Don't do my girl like that.

She's not my queen. She needs some help. Forever going to love the monster track. But, yeah. Listen, she got some classics. The game is faster by a little bit. I think she needs to go tap into Roman. Like, when she goes Roman, she's great.

She is Dion Sanders with the Ravens right now. That's who she is, okay. Honestly, Jim Harbaugh with the Ravens, right? Like, okay. Don't disrespect Jim Harbaugh like that. Don't disrespect him like that. Did you watch the game? I watched?

Don't disrespect them. That point calling was terrible. All this coordinator terrible. That's on time market. You know what? See, we're getting on track. We getting off track. Stay on track.

I've said my piece. I've said my piece. Y'all ain't fit to tell me that Tyler. Again, like I said, if he does that, just give me 25 touchdowns, 25 touchdowns and less than eight interceptions. And I'll get on this show. Okay. And I'll eat my wife.

words literally I will eat Olive Garden I will do it you will and I will cash out and make sure we watch we will have an Olive Garden dinner date here on air but when it doesn't happen

because it won't you want me to buy you McDonald's okay oh no I need you to eat a bacon never on there oh Wendy's is so terrible I need you to get that baconator ready and no you can't have one of those

strawberry lemonade to wash it down either. Nope. Your fat is that for that. I said what I said. You're fat. Do we got a deal or what? Do we got a deal or what? Even swap, no swindle. There we go. All right. Let me pray for my cardio and vascular health. That's fine. It is what it is. All right. Let's just wrap this one up because I can't. I'm trying to be serious, but I'm losing it. Either way it goes, we have a lot of portable conversations.

to have throughout the off season as well as just where our teams we feel like are going to end up based on the improvements, based on spring ball, based on what, you know, the rosters look like. And so we'll have all of that for you. We'll end here because, you know, there's five minutes of people that actually do love this thing, ACC women's basketball. If you miss the weekend, you missed some good ones, okay? Just so, you know, a little up a couple upsets. A couple, hey, where you been? We've been right here. Virginia Tech held it down against Syracuse. So kudos to them for being able to win against arguably the best team on paper, which is Syracuse in the ACC play. But the Hokies reminded them that Elizabeth Kittley is still that girl. Yeah, yeah. Elizabeth Kedley is a Naismith, a Naismith player to your watchless player for a reason. Georgia Amor is, you know, she has the keys and she is the guard that gets the, She is the one with the, she's the person that pours the sugar in the Kool-A,

but Kittley is the one with the ladle stirring the drink. She's the one that, you know, make sure the flavors get in, right. And so that's, they're a good one-two punch and they, you know, got it done to get Syracuse here. One-two punch after the Kool-A. That was good. All right. Virginia and North Carolina. Virginia with the upset, excuse me, 81-66.

North Carolina is just really that hot and cold, like you mentioned, team. They're very inconsistent when they're good. They're great. But when they're bad, they're terrible. But you know what? And this goes to what I was talking about with Duke's men's basketball, not overlooking, not overlooking Virginia Tech, because that's clearly what happened with this North Carolina team. How you let this Virginia team who had one win in conference, one winning conference all year,

upset you before this matchup against NC State is beyond me. But I will say this, Virginia, who are you? Two and seven in conference and their two wins are against Florida State and UNC? What's going on up there in Charlottesville?

They only want to play some ball if they see a number next to your name. If anything else, they just don't got the time to do it. They don't got the time to beat on the Georgia Tech. But when they come to Florida State and UNC, all of a sudden, I feel like Beyonce, the Tar Heels have a problem. When they come to them, them who's coming through, the Tar Hills have a problem. Oh, my gosh. NC State beat Boston College, 8261.

Not much to stay here other than that NC State took care of business, which is what they're supposed to do ahead of that North Carolina matchup, as you mentioned. It was just one of those games that's on the docket, but you got to pull it out, and they did. Absolutely. You got to show up in ACC every single game. And for those of you who don't remember, the same Boston College team beat them last year.

So if you don't, if you sleep, if you sleep in this conference, oh, don't worry. Nobody's going to hit the snooze button for you, baby. They'll let you sleep right on your way to a loss. So good job by Westmore Company, not overlooking this team, headed into a big prime time matchup this week. Louisville beat Pitt 77 to 58. Louisville team, again, taking care of business, flying under the radar to me nationally, but quietly one of the better programs, even despite having that big Haley Van Liff departure,

who is struggling because their team lost against Mississippi State, but what do I know? She's not a point card. That's the problem. They got to play. But that's neither here nor there. That's neither here nor there. Let's talk about who is still in the ACC.

I'll tell you what. This Louisville team can fly as under the radar as they won nationally. In the ACC, you better put some respect on their name. You better put some respect on it. Yeah, sure. They might not have won the more recent. ACC championships due to that NC state run of back to back to back in Virginia Tech last year.

I'm telling you, put some respect on this team's name. It's never a doubt when it comes to Louisville. You're going to have a tough out on your hand. Absolutely. Do get Miami. Talk about putting respect of someone's name. Miami. Taking care of business against the Blue Devil, 64 to 58.

Even though that the Blue Devils, I feel like they are just right there. They are frustrating. They don't have, you know, the A-list names, but they definitely have a A-list coach. who is trying to get the best out of them. They're finding ways to win at sometimes, and they're just really coming up short and others. But I still want to circle that program because they are just there, but credit to Miami for the big win.

The unfortunate thing for Duke, they share in this conference at like one of the worst times to be in the ACC for women's basketball in terms of like, if you want to compete and win. What do I mean by that? You are looking at so many teams that are so many teams that are so, deep, so talented, so good that you can look up any night in nine times out of 10, you're going to be playing somebody rank.

Not 10, you're going to be playing somebody that's very, very good or that's beaten somebody rank. And so with that being said, you know, at the end of the day, I really do feel bad for Duke and all the departures that they've had recently. But credit to Miami, they did what they needed to do. they showed up, got themselves a win here. And I'll tell you, Miami is another one of those teams. They're going to get into the tournament.

They have the resume that argues very hard for, hey, a win over a top 10 team in NC State. They've got a win against Duke here. They've got a couple other wins. I want to say Mississippi State earlier in the year. They've got the case. They've got the argument. Which Miami team are we going to get in the tournament's overquest? 100%.

We'll end here with Florida State beating Georgia Tech 7867 to Nileotson. That's that. We talk about Georgia. Amor, right? We talk about some of the best of the best here in this country. Her name should be on that list always. Lassen got that dog in her. Yeah.

Yeah. And some people go get mad at me for saying this. I'm going to say it. Her and Tempton are a poor man's version of the Walmart version of Amor and Kittley. I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it. The only difference.

The only difference is this is the inverse on importance here. And that Latson is the one that is the stir of the drink. And Chimson is the one that, you know, she brings that big intimidating presence down low. She hits the board's extremely hard. But Latson is the one that if you can't stop her, good luck. Yeah. Good luck. 100% agree.

Clemson beat Wake Forest 73 to 59. It's just been that kind of year for Wake Forest and up and down one for the Tigers. but nevertheless, you know, it's always good to win, you know, in this conference, especially as we get ready for N2A tournament play, ACCC tournament play. I just think it's setting us up for very much. You just don't know who's going to get it because any team that you scroll on this roster is beatable, every single one. That's what makes it exciting.

Absolutely. And every team can beat these folks. I mean, that's the reality. You can't sit up here and play and act like, well, I just told you about Boston college beating NC State last year, but even this year. I just told you about Virginia, beating UNC and Florida State. There are so many teams in this conference that even if you consider them a quote unquote bottom dweller, go to sleep on that bottom dweller if you want to.

Go to sleep and say, oh, yeah, we got ourselves an easy win. Okay. All right. You're going to find out exactly how easy that win is when you're walking out with a loss. Yes. Uh-huh. because at the end of the day, that's why they play the game. We've got more to go over this week.

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