Locked On ACC - Daily College Football & Basketball Podcast - FIRE SALE: Florida State Shakes Up Leadership, Mike Norvell Future HANGS in Balance After Michael Alford Exit

Episode Date: September 14, 2026

Florida State shakes up college football by firing Athletic Director Michael Alford—could Mike Norvell be next? Julian Council and Kenton Gibbs debate the fallout at FSU, examining whether keeping Norvell could set the Seminoles back five years or whether a rapid turnaround is still possible in today's transfer portal-driven landscape. With Norvell's recruiting struggles and booster issues in the spotlight, the hosts question the program's leadership and its future as a national contender.The episode recaps ACC Week 2 action, including NC State’s dominant win over Richmond, Louisville’s ongoing discipline issues despite offensive firepower, and standout performances by SMU’s Kevin Jennings and North Carolina’s Xavier Lewis. The discussion covers key injuries, running back battles, and high-stakes upcoming matchups against Alabama, SMU, and Clemson. Will Florida State reclaim its status, or are rivals like Miami poised to seize ACC supremacy? Don’t miss this sharp, opinionated breakdown of conference chaos and rising stars.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!KALSHIFor a limited time, Download Kalshi and use code Locked On to get $25 when you trade $25. Kalshi. Trade what’s next.SupplyHouseVisit https://SupplyHouse.com/TM to learn more about becoming a Trade Master.  Use promo code S H 5 College for five percent off your first order.  SupplyHouse. Real people. Real service.Omaha SteaksShop proteins you can trust at https://www.Omaha Steaks.com. And right now, get 2 pounds of premium ground beef FREE with orders over $129 using code COLLEGE at checkout. Terms apply. See site for details.Aura CybersecurityStart your free trial today at https://aura.com/aware.  Protect yourself now.WayfairTransform your space with pieces that hold up to real life.  Join Wayfair Rewards today and get five percent back on every purchase.  Head to https://Wayfair.com or shop the Wayfair app for all things home. Every style. Every home.IndeedListeners of this show get a $75 Sponsored Job Credit to help give your job the premium placement it deserves at http://Indeed.com/podcast.SquareGet up to $200 off Square hardware when you sign up at https://square.com/go/COLLEGE ! #squarepodLARINECOGive Larine a try. Right now, Larine Co is offering our listeners up to 50% off at https://BUYLARINE.com/LOCKEDONCOLLEGE.5-Hour ENERGYBring on the sweetness with Cotton Candy 5-hour ENERGY®️ shots—available online now at https:/5hourENERGY.com or on Amazon.GametimeToday's episode is brought to you by Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDON for $20 off your first purchase. Terms and conditions apply.FanDuelMake this Your Most Rewarding Season Ever with FanDuel. Get $350 in Bonus Bets — GUARANTEED — when you bet five dollars every day for seven days.  Join all the action at https://FANDUEL.COMFANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Florida State has fired their AD is Mike Norvell next. We'll talk about it right here on Locked on ACC. You are Locked on ACC, your daily podcast on the Atlantic Coast Conference. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. Welcome in to another edition of the Locked on ACC podcast. I am Julian Counsel, and he is former NC State Football Letterman, Kenton Gibbs. And today's episode of Lockdown ACC is. brought to you by FanDul. Get $350 in bonus bets.

Guaranteed when you bet $5 every day for seven days. Join all the action at FanDul.com. We will continue to wrap up all of our takeaways from week two in the ACC. Focus in on the teams who played by games against a bunch of FCS opponents, but there are still things takeaway from those games. But the big story in the ACC on Monday is that Florida State has moved on from their athletic director Michael Alford after he came in to run the Seminole Booster Club was elevated to AD.

And of course, we know things have not gone well with the football program. And there was a statement put out there by Florida State Board of Trustees Chairman Peter Collins saying changes like this are never easy, but sometimes necessary. We have made significant investments in structural changes in our athletics program and some boosters over the past few years, but more are needed. This step begins the next phase of restructuring the university, that university, must commit to in order to compete in the new era of college athletics. The president and the board are in lockstep on the mission and what the results must be.

Your takeaway from Michael Alford, no longer being the AD there at Florida State. Them saxophone's getting loud, ain't it? Them saxophones getting mighty loud if you are Mike Norville. Boy, this is, you know, this is the old saying from the last of the Nolan Batman movies. they're expecting one of us in the records, brother. This is what this is. Okay, somebody was expected in the records because Norville wasn't going down by itself

with as much money that was invested into him. And it's not even, the unfortunate part, I don't think outside of this situation, their AD has been bad. But let me take it a step further. I don't think that giving Norville that big extension when he got it was a bad idea at the time. I don't think it was.

I don't think it was. When you look at what was going on, speculation swirling that Sabin was going to retire. You just came off a 13 and 0 year. You were looking at a situation where ACC champs undefeated, looks like we're back on track to be in Florida State football. You were left with two options, right? And the reality of this situation, based on what we have seen happen, this was a lose-lose for Alfred. because let's imagine the alternate worlds, shall we, Julie.

They let them walk. They let them walk. Saban retires. He takes over at Bama, and Bama continues to be Bama. Or like they just, they go through the Norville cycle that he had at Florida State, where it's like a bad year or two,

and then he gets it going, and then their national champ level. Do you think Florida State fans would have been okay with that? Do you think they would have been okay, unless that new hire was, crushing it out the gates. Yeah. So it wasn't a bad hire.

And hindsight is always 20-20. If you knew your ex was going to cheat on, you wouldn't have talked to her that night in the bar. But things happened the way they do. Yeah, I don't think anyone's looking at the decision to extend Mike Norvell now and thinking back at the time that they made the wrong choice. Now, eventually, one of these AEDs is just going to have to say, go ahead, just go. we're not going to give you this extension. We're not going to give you this big buyout,

which, of course, is working in favor of Mike Norville and a lot of these coaches, as he is still employed, even though he should have been fired after last season. Hell, going two and ten is grounds for being terminated at a university like Florida State, considering their tradition and the investment that's put into the program. So look, man, Michael Alford is one of those guys who believes that the cap is real, believes that with the new legislation that came out last year, that teams are going to follow that. And that is a big reason why Florida State made this decision,

that he does not fit the modern era of college athletics, and that he, of course, is connected to Mike Norvell, not just the extension, but he is in lockstep, as was said by the Board of Trustees chairman with Mike Norvel, and they both apparently got wrong how much they thought it was going to cost to build a roster after going 13-0 back in 2023. and we have seen what it's cost Florida State over the last two seasons. So Michael Offord needed to move on.

He was never even brought in to Florida State to be the AD. He was brought in to be the chairman of the Seminole Booster Club, which is invariably very tied to the university and fundraising and how they go out spending money and running the athletic department, but he had to move on. And now I just wonder, when is it going to be Mike Norville's turn? Because they're going to lose in Tuscaloosa this Saturday. They're going to get embarrassed.

Are they just going to go ahead and move on Sunday? Because I think they should. you look at last year, Virginia Tech fired Brent Pry after three games and they had an FCS opponent afterwards and they went out and played an ACC game against NC State. That's basically the same setup up here for FSU. They go get embarrassed by Alabama. They have an FCS opponent in central Arkansas.

Then have Virginia after that. You don't need a buy week. You have an FCFC. Move on. Alford's gone. We know that's never going to work out Mike Norvelle. And had he gone to Alabama, he probably would have failed there too because he can't recruit.

And I understand that the portal is important, If you can't recruit and develop out of high school, which he's yet to do at Florida State, you can't have one of these jobs at any major program in college football nowadays. He's better off than the G5. If you can ever even rehab his image to get another head coaching opportunity in FBS football again. But it's time to move on. All for it's gone, Norville's got to go. I'm tired of watching it.

Let's all be done with this on Sunday morning at the latest. For the sake of the conference, you're absolutely right. For the sake of the conference, I'm with you when you're right, and you are not wrong here, brother. The reality is you needed, this was a firing that should have already happened. And you know what? I absolutely agree in terms of Alfred's sin wasn't the extension.

It was being too loyal to the soil. At some point in time, yeah, this is my guy. Yeah, I'm rocked with him. You got to let him go. Well, the buyout's going to be massive. Do you not? I've said this multiple times on this show.

And I hope that I am wrong. the damage of keeping Norville will last you for half a decade, maybe more. And I think that that's what we're in right now. I disagree. Today in college football, you can go, if you get the right coach who actually knows how to recruit high school and develop players, they get, and like the big issue from everything my understanding is, is just his inability to get the boosters,

not just Norville, but also Alford's inability to get the boosters on board to go above the spending. There's no real cap in college football, but go above Rebshare. He wouldn't do that. He doesn't understand the landscape. So it has nothing to do with loyalty. It has everything to do with he doesn't know what the hell he's doing. And he and Norville are why Florida State football is in this position.

So they can hire somebody else tomorrow. They can go actually get high school players, go out and get players in a portal, coach them up and be right back to next year looking like FSU. There's no such thing as, oh, they're set up by five to 10 years. That's not the case anymore. You have to wait three, four recruiting classes. Look at Oklahoma State this past weekend. They have been asked the last two years,

and they just beat the hell out of Oregon. They didn't need. They weren't set back by my Gondy. What did Oklahoma State do in week one? They lost and they bounced back, but they're not set back by five years because Gundy was bad the last two years. Like I think that's not, that's not reality. That's also a very different situation.

You're talking about a coach in Stillwater, Oklahoma. You are not talking about a coach in a hotbed of recruiting in central Florida in Dallas. But how are they set back by five? years, how they've been set back? Because here's how they're set back. Because when they get, so it's not just about where you are, it's where your competition is relative to you. So it's not just that they got set back because he was bad. Every time one team gets bad, somebody else gets good. This is not a

zero-sum game where it's like, oh, a bunch of teams can be bad all at once. Somebody moves into that void of power. What happened to the void of power in the state of Florida while Florida State was getting bad. Their biggest rival became the guys on the block. And so Florida State can never catch up because they had like North Carolina. I'm not saying never. It's going to take a decade to catch up. I'm saying I believe that it will very likely take them half a decade, if not more, to catch up. Because again, your biggest rival right down the street is saying we are proven winners now. We have gone this way up into the right every time. Where has the team that you're looking at going here?

They're stinking. They need to replace their AD. They've got to replace their head coach. Who do you think is easier to recruit a player to? That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying that it's irrevocable. I'm not saying the right coach, get the right AD, get your finances together. It does not take that long. It will not take that long.

In theory, it doesn't because everybody keeps looking at Indiana saying, oh, look at what Sig did, look at what Sig did. Look at what Sig did. But in reality, look at the greater picture than, just them. Everybody else has taken a minute to get that thing going in the way that they should. I'm not talking about a one-off game here and there. I'm saying to be where your program believes it should be. If you're going to tell me, I believe the Oklahoma State will be back to the height of where Mike Gundy took him next year or this year, I'll bet you a million dollars it don't happen. I'll bet you a million dollars that don't happen. I'm not saying that this is a situation where Florida

state is irredeemable, but I'm saying that their biggest rival has moved into their void of power is going to take a minute to come back from that. That's what I'm saying. Sure. Not that they can't ever come back here. Yeah. I mean, I totally disagree in today's landscape that it takes that long to bounce back. There's plenty of examples, not just Indiana or you can turn things around. But like, sure, we'll see what plays out. A Florida State need to make this decision.

And they finally made it. Go fire Norville. And let's move on and get FSU football to being FSU football again. And Lord knows it should not take five plus years. You tell me what P4 teams did it besides Indiana. What P4 teams in a year or two just went from being two and ten, trash had to fire my coach to just in a year. Oh, we back now.

All right. Well, we'll have to wait see how Oklahoma State goes. They already have gone from being pretty bad the last two years to turn around, winning a game. We've seen Texas Tech be pretty mid-programmed to going to playoff last year. Texas Tech has been a perennial power in the Big 12. They've never been a perennial power. What?

I encourage you to look at Texas Tech football reference and go see all the 10-win seasons that they do not have. They've never been a perennial power in the Big 12. And the fact that Texas and Oklahoma and hell, Nebraska, A&M are no longer the Big 12 is why Texas Tech is even in the position. Like perennial power, they haven't had a 10-1 season until since 2008 with Mike Leach and with Graham Horell, Michael Crabtree. And before that, they didn't have a 10-1 season in the Southwest Conference. They've not been a perennial power. Brother, okay. Perennial power may have been an exaggeration,

but Cliff Kingsbury was their worst coach by a mile, by a mile. He was the aberration in terms of his winning percentage against every other Texas coach. And that's something you could look up that that is a thousand percent true. There is not a single Texas that coach in the past, what, 20 years or so that's had as bad of a winning percentage as them. Okay.

Whatever, it doesn't matter. I disagree. I don't think it should take too long, but FSU's made a decision. and let's look back at the weekend in ACC football. NC State got back on track. Lincoln Keynes, his development continues there at Louisville. We'll talk about all that here in just a moment on locked on ACC.

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All right, back here on Locked on ACC, let's take a look at the rest of the ACC slate from week two. looking at the opponents or teams that played a bunch of FCS opponents. Let's start off in Raleigh on Friday night beating Richmond by 73 to zero. What was your takeaway from the pack

on Friday night and what was, of course, a beatdown in a game that was never in doubt for state? I mean, when you look at a game like this, this was supposed to be their bounce back or get right game after being physically mauled and dominated. You got to take that out on the lesser opponent. You got to, you know, you got to do all those things. And that's what they did, right?

Set a bunch of rushing records and did what they needed to do in terms of just completely and utterly dominating Richmond. At the end of the day, yes, they're an FCS team, but that was a ranked FCS team. That was an FCS team that you expected to put up some fight, some type of resistance, and to completely roll over them in a way that they did. Good job there. Not going to say that, you know, oh, we're back. This is 10-win season.

Back on everybody. Not going to say that. I think that more of a test of that is going to come on the road at Nashville this weekend. But, you know, this is. is definitely a step in the right direction. Yeah, Duke Scott had three carries for 111 yards, and it touched on his first two drives. So good to see him get involved in this game

and for state to just go out there and take care of business, even though it was an FCC opponent, certainly dominating them and be able to get back as a big game, 1245 PM Eastern Time, SEC Network against Vanderbilt there in Nashville. Louisville also on Friday night, 59, Villanova 13. We can't quite a rough start on the opening drive

I missed a couple of passes, especially targeting Jalilalil's Skinner, but then I was able to connect with him. More mistakes for Louisville, coverage bus running into the kicker on sportsmanlike. Things that we've seen from Jeff, or, yeah, Jeff Brum. Yeah, Jeff Brom's teams over the last couple of years. I want to say Brian Brom, he's on staff too. But so I guess he can be part of the problem coaching-wise get these guys to be more disciplined. But things we've seen from them cannot continue on Saturday one day, host SMU. Any takeaways you have from Louisville, Villanova from Friday?

I'm starting to think that that's not a glitch. It's a feature of the Brom error. Like, don't get me wrong. They did what they were supposed to do. Obviously, Cleve Lubin and company dominated up front, all that good stuff. But it's starting to become a feature of Brom teams that you're going to get those boneheaded penalties in absolutely crushing moments. They have to get that cleaned up. They have to get it cleaned up because I like Louisville a lot, man.

I love the city. I love that team. I hope that they do well for the sake of the conference. boy, you can't do that if in these moments you're either going to be playing like way above your heads or the regular you is going to give, you know, first downs and free points to ACC teams. They're a very good ACC team. I don't think they're good enough to allow that against, you know, more staunch competition. But again, another dominant win here. Yeah, we even saw against Ole Miss, a few of the mistakes that they made hurt them in that game.

I think that would happen in game of SMU. now SMU is also a team that is prone to make a few mistakes. So we'll see who makes the fewest mistakes may win that game. And I'll say too, Isaac Brown has not really gotten going so far this season. 29 carries, 97 yards, only 3.3 yards for carry. Kiwan Brown is actually injured in this game. So that will be an injury and injury to monitor throughout the week. We'll have an ACC available report because Louisville does play.

And I see ACC opponent, if I can talk today, which I can't at SMU. Virginia, Norfolk, State, Virginia winning 59 to 3 against Mike Vicks outfit. Cam Robinson was back making his season debut after suffering an ACL tear last year. Corey Costner, the safety, who did not start in that game, did not playoff. So in that game against NC State back in Week 0, he was out there. Wide receivers, Rico Flores and Dylan Newton Short still missing. The hope is that they'll have Flores out there on Saturday night against West Virginia here in my hometown of Charlotte, North Carolina.

Looking at the game against state, it was 18 of the first 19 plays. We're all rushing attempts. game, it was five of seven that were all passing attempts. Bo Perbuella, first three drives, eight for eight, 120 yards, three touchdowns. He had a day. And it was very clear that they were looking to throw the ball and come a lie with that passing attack after being able to dominate up front against state a couple of weeks ago. You still cannot sell me on this team's passing game, but they bludgeon people in the running

game, point blank period. There's no way around it. There is only one way to beat them and that's to go through them. That's it. that's it. I mean, you're not going to convince me their passing game is high level because you threw the ball around the yard against Norfolk State. But again, but again, they are so physical. I think that they can end up eight, nine. I don't know about 10, but I think they'll end up with an eight, nine win season just by bludgeoning people and just by playing

great defense. Yeah, and it's an interesting matchup against the West Virginia who has, what is his name, Michael, whatever. He came from Oklahoma. Can't throw the ball, but good runner. And then they brought over a running back who was at Jacksonville State prior with Rich Rod came over this year. He's looked good so far. So that will test how good they are up front against what is going to be a team that certainly wants to run the ball, which is what Rich Rod's been doing since his first at West Virginia. I tried to do a little bit at Michigan didn't really work out. And now he's doing back there as he's home in West Virginia.

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SMU 56 to 10 against UC Davis. Kevin Jennings did break the school record for total yardage there at SMU that was set by Ben Hicks. Had been around for a decade. He now has 9,073 yards total, and he's on pace to break Hicks' passing record, which would occur in week four. So maybe not this weekend, but if he does it this weekend, SMU probably won. wins that game against Louisville, but certainly the weekend afterwards. He should set that record.

He's been great so far, 767 yards passing, eight touchdowns, did have the bad pick against FSU, the other one not on him. But Kevin Jennings and Mustangs looking pretty good heading into Louisville this weekend. That's what you needed to see. You needed to see a sharp, clean game. I call FCS games to It's About Us game because there are some games where like legitimately your opponent and who they are to some extent it makes. matters because there's NFL guys over there.

And what that NFL guy does can make a difference in the game. When you're playing a lot of these FCS teams, it's just about you and how you come into this game. And it's very clear. SMU prepared for this game in a way that's like, I need to see this game be clean. I need to see us dominate first nap to the last, starters, backups, young guys, everybody gets it. We're making it clear. We're making it easy. We don't want to make this complicated to do too much.

no, no, no, we are who we are, and we're going to show up and show out, which they did. Yeah, and look, I think they're very clearly a team that's going to contend to get the show. We all knew that the way that they played against FSU, I was hoping would be their worst game with the four turnovers that should not have happened, but FSU is so bad. It did not matter, even though that game was close in the score alone. You look at the total yardage. You just watch the game in itself, which, of course, we both did, and everybody else who watched it, knows. Yeah, that was not a close game.

That was the closest game you've ever seen. That was really a blowout just because of all the turnovers that they had against FSU. And then finally, North Carolina 35 East Tennessee State 3, big one for Carolina at Clemson this weekend. They have not won in Death Valley since 2001. They have not been Clemson since 2010, which is kind of crazy that season. That was when Bush Davis was last year in Chapel Hill and had all the issues that then led to the academic fraud investigation. They beat FSU Clemson. even Miami, all that years, kind of crazy that Carolina, that season was able to do that.

So that's the last time maybe Clemson, period. Great opportunity this weekend. I was looking to see some other guys at quarterback. We saw a little bit of Miles O'Neill, none of Travis Burgess, which I think is a little disappointing. But East Tennessee State did a good job of holding out of the football in this game to kind of keep Carolina off the field. Still not running the ball all that well, even though DeMond June did have three rushing touchdowns. That's all well and good, but need to see more out of him, Jalen McGill, and then Ben Hall,

who's continued to be there starting running back in this game, despite a fumble that was pretty costly against TCU up in Ireland. And Xavier Lewis, Brit mentioned this yesterday, big performance again, two sacks, two tackles for loss, up to six and a half tackles for loss, and now four sacks on the season. So clearly having a better years for a defensive tackle

through week zero to week two so far in the country. Any takeaways you had from the Taurils against ETSU? Four sacks is an entire year's worth of work for most defensive tackles in a year. Like, actually more than most. That puts you in the upper echelon. So Xavier Lewis has definitely got to watch out for it. That defensive line, all in all, is coming on pretty strong here. The only thing that I can, you know, say is a definitive takeaway from this game.

The offense looked a lot better. They looked a lot cleaner. You can say, well, it's against East Tennessee. It doesn't really matter. Here's the deal. If you saw what we saw in Ireland, you would know that was not TCU flying around making plays and every window was this big. to hit passes.

It was literally just an offense that looked like they were flailing a little bit out there. So for them to be much cleaner in this game, that means something. For them to be operating at a higher capacity and able to put up 35 points in this game, means something. Yeah. Weather conditions probably had an effect too more on TCU than it felt like for Carolina in that game, looking to take that next step after the buy week and to be able to go out there, function the way they did.

Not a ton of explosive plays in the passing game. Opportunities down to feel that Billy Edwards was I will connect on. We'll need to likely do that. Maybe not against Clemson on Saturday. Their offense, the Tigers offense, definitely going to be a big question. And we'll talk about that game later on this week as we look at some of the bigger games in the ACC. Also look at the rest of the slate heading into week three.

That's going to wrap up with this edition of the Lockdown ACC podcast for the Lockdown Podcast Network. We're your host, as always, Julian Council and Kenton Gibbs. Again, y'all subscribe and follow the show free over on YouTube. And wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. And be sure to follow us over on Twitter at Julian Council and at TGIF. Kitten underscore Kitten. And in the meantime, we say, be happy, and we'll talk to you all on Wednesday.

Well, we will look at who stock up, stock down in the ACC and maybe even just certain players, certain positions, certain coaches, all that. And look at some ACC news and notes as we prepare for week three of football here in the ACC.