Locked On ACC - Daily College Football & Basketball Podcast - MELTDOWN: Did the ACC IMPLODE from Transfer Portal Exits?? | Will Any Team Emerge Unscathed?

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Starting point is 00:00:58 No console needed. Head to Amazon.com slash Fire TV Lockdown to learn more. on this episode. We'll talk about, you know, a certain former Texas quarterback who was allegedly being offered $6 million NIL packages to play one more year in college, opted for the NFL draft where he will be making just over a million dollars for each of the next four years. Was it worth it? And he was linked to at least one ACC school, by the way.

Starting point is 00:01:30 We'll talk about this alleged ACC implosion. Now, you know, Kenton, I got no beef with CBS sports who published this article. There was actually some very useful information in the article for people like you and me and all of our listeners who follow the transfer portal. But the headline here, you know, Penn State and Oklahoma improved ACC teams implode in spring. Now, there was definitely one ACC program that literally imploded in the spring transfer portal. but isn't like the picture that's being painted here, as if the ACC totally struck out in everything transfer portal, they do realize that on 24-7 sports,

Starting point is 00:02:10 which is owned by CBS, three of the top 10 transfer portal classes in the country, three of the top 10, Miami, Florida State, and North Carolina are in the ACC. That's not bad to have three out of the top 10. Have I not told you all this? have I not warned y'all about this the perception of the ACC is so negative that anything dealing with the ACC at a high level will be framed as a negative ACC teams implode who imploded who's under over got significantly worse based on what we saw in this spring I would say cow maybe actually no I'd say cow definitely and UNC maybe that's it

Starting point is 00:02:58 Who else, Dono? Did you see a mass exodus going out of Miami? NC State lost one linebacker on a defense that already was not said to be the new great coming into the season. But I haven't heard of anybody having these big sweeping, oh man, SMU can't hold on to their guys. Oh, man, Boston College and Bill O'Brien, what are they going to do? I have not heard that out of any school in this spring portal. So again, I want to know who outside of the two we mentioned are the teams that are imploding. And here's the worst part.

Starting point is 00:03:36 There are plenty of teams that are there are plenty of conferences that are also having a team or two have a similar situation at the end of spring. So what are we really looking at here in terms of, oh, there are implosions all over the ACC. You know, and I wouldn't even, you know, obviously North Carolina has lost a ton of players. But again, they got a top 10 incoming class. So, you know, when you make a big coaching change like they did and a huge administrative change, they got a new general manager, Bill Belichick is now there. So obviously they're replacing a ton of guys. So I wouldn't call that an implosion because they've done a pretty good job bringing guys in in the transfer portal.

Starting point is 00:04:13 You know, another one, I guess this is fair, but this is a team we don't think about a whole lot because I think they're over under went from like three and a half wins to three and a half wins despite losing a ton of guys. And that's Stanford. So Stanford with, you know, firing their former head coach, Troy Taylor, they had a lot of turnover. And a lot of it happened even before the transfer portal officially opened. I think it was back in that or it was back in March. So before the portal open in April, they made the coaching change. So they lost a lot of guys there. Cal, which makes sense, right?

Starting point is 00:04:42 I mean, Cal lost basically their entire team into the transfer portal. But they also, Kenton, in this article, they consider Syracuse to be one of the losers. and that might be overstating a little bit. They say, you know, besides Trevor Pena, who obviously was their most impactful loss, they say standout defensive tackle, Marad Watson also hopped into the portal this spring. It's a tough one-two punch of losses,

Starting point is 00:05:06 although Fran Brown is confident in his next man-up mentality. But yeah, so Syracuse had a couple big losses, Kenton, but I also think they upgraded their quarterback situation with Steve Angelly, so it's not all bad. Here's what I'm confused about. And this is why, again, sometimes, when you put two and two together, it doesn't make sense. Everybody continues to scream, oh, quarterback is a premium position.

Starting point is 00:05:29 You got to get better a quarterback. Any chance you get to get better a quarterback. You need a better quarterback. You need a better quarterback. Okay, fine. They went and got a better quarterback. And you called them a team that is imploding because they lost a receiver and a defensive tackle.

Starting point is 00:05:45 And don't get me wrong. Those are both very valuable pieces. The quarterback is going to be there for two years. Trevor Payne was guaranteed to be out. the door after this year. I get it. The defensive tackle, he had a lot of eligibility left. For sure.

Starting point is 00:05:59 Not going to deny that. But again, I'm sitting here saying to myself, why are we always, again, the ACC always gets this terrible rap of all, yeah, they're just so bad, so low down, or so lowly and downtrodden. I am looking at the rest of the country saying there are plenty of teams losing guys. We know that it's an exceptional case in the case of a. We know that. Put them to the side. Have we not seen a bunch of teams suffer a big loss or two? Like what are we really doing here in terms of saying teams are imploding?

Starting point is 00:06:33 Imploding? Because to me, imploding knocks you down the room to me. That's what I look at when I say imploding. It's the same way if I was to say, oh, this team got massively better. Okay, so you need to go up a row. If I think that you got a better running back than you had last year, but I think that he's marginally better. And I think, oh, he's good. The guy you had last year was good. What does that do? I look at these teams, and I'm saying, we knew coming into the year,

Starting point is 00:07:04 Syracuse had one of the toughest schedules in the nation. We knew six wins is over the moon for Syracuse this year, because, again, they got a tough schedule. Why are we now looking at them and saying, oh, you're so much worse now. Are they really? Love Trevor Pange. Love what he did.

Starting point is 00:07:25 But I don't think that he's that dynamic of a playmaker to say, you offset not only a new quarterback that people believe is better, but again, you're that good to where we expect you to take this team down around regardless. It's just not that. Well, I want to talk about who I feel should be considered portal winners in the ACC when we come back. And by the way, Kenton, I hope you're not getting too comfortable, because even though like players already had to file their paperwork, that deadline was on Friday the 25th,

Starting point is 00:07:58 some of that paperwork has been a little bit delayed. You're still seeing names into the portal today. And teams can still for the next several weeks can still sign players. So by the way, there are teams out there in the ACC that are not done yet bringing in new talent. And we're certainly not done yet. We're only getting started on this brand new episode of Locked on ECC. You want to keep it locked. We're having so much fun, these NBA playoffs at Fandul.com.

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Starting point is 00:09:25 We're free on YouTube. We're part of the Lockdown Podcast Network. your team every day. So as mentioned, Kenton, the ACC does have three of the top 10 ranked transfer portal classes in the country. I'll give you the top 10 in order. LSU, number one, Texas Tech. That oil money is flowing over there in Lubbock.

Starting point is 00:09:46 They've got the number two, portal class of the country, Ole Miss at number three, Miami at number four. You know, Miami just had a flurry of commits over the weekend, Kent, and they actually one of those guys was Kamal Bonner, who played at NC State linebacker. They added Keelon Marion, who's a wide receiver out of BYU, who's an ace kickoff returner. He returned two kickoffs for touchdowns last year, and they added Texas place kicker, Bert Auburn, who, you know, I've just covered in Miami for as long as I have. I'm a little spoiled because I had five years of Boregallis brothers, and so I'm sure,

Starting point is 00:10:21 sure there's going to be a drop off after that, but it is what it is. So Miami comes in at number four, then Oregon at five, Florida State at number six. They have had some portal losses, but they've had good portal gains, probably back in the January portal. Deuce Robinson wide receiver was one of their biggest ads, but they've had a good portal overall. Missouri at number seven, Auburn at number eight, North Carolina at number nine, Kentucky at 10. Now, Kenton, for UNC, obviously it's been more quantity than quality, but they've gotten a little bit bit of both. Like UNC actually just landed a really good defensive tackle out of Florida,

Starting point is 00:10:59 Deontre Robinson, who just signed there within the last couple of days. And they're getting a visit from Florida safety, Gregory Smith, the third, who might decide to join his former teammate there. So they brought in 30 players between the January and April portals. But again, coaching change. A lot of guys jumped in. They've had to go for volume, but they've gotten kind of a good mix of quality and quantity there.

Starting point is 00:11:22 all three of these teams have done a fantastic job in the portal. And this is exactly why I say that it's a bit of a hit piece to say, oh, these ACC teams are imploding in the portal. Because again, more than not, teams have either gotten better by the portal or been kind of neutral. You look at, again, all of these teams that we're looking at in terms of what happened in spring, I can't really look at anybody and say too much, oh, these teams got worse. Then when you talk about these three top ten classes, like you said, these guys are still adding ballplayers, legit ball players here. So I struggle with this idea that, hey, we have to down these teams, even if North Carolina is adding a lot of quality or quantity as opposed to quality.

Starting point is 00:12:11 That's fine. It's college football. Teams go up pace and fast tempo and all that. You're going to need a lot of guys to say, hey, go on in there, man. This guy's going five snaps straight against hurry up. He's going to need some air. So on and so forth. So again, all of these teams have done a good job in the portal.

Starting point is 00:12:30 They've done a very, very good job of building their teams out, two teams that absolutely needed the rebuilds in terms of UNC and in terms of UNC and help me out. Not Miami, Florida State, a team that to attend last year, definitely needed that rebuild. This is, these are, these are, this is a situation where you're looking at as many teams in the top 10, actually more teams in the top 10 in terms of transfer portal classes, then you're looking at teams who had massive implosions in the spring. So I think that it's, again, the framing is very intentional. And just like I said about basketball, I'll say about football. I'll say again for the ACC because somebody needs to stick up for this damn conference. It is intentionally being put out there.

Starting point is 00:13:18 Oh, look it out terrible. the ACC. Look at how bad they are. You know, Dono, 100% of players who drunk in the ACC have at some point in time going on to pass on the glory. Think about that. Think about that. 100%

Starting point is 00:13:33 Donno. I'm not saying that they're whacking players there, but it could be a possibility. Yep. So the ACC, by the way, on kind of a side note, they had 42 players drafted in the NFL. I'm trying to

Starting point is 00:13:48 compare that to, I'm sure the Big Ten and the SEC had a ton more, but I'm trying to get the comparisons for all of the power four, but 42 players drafted a little bit of a down year. I was actually surprised that Miami had the most in the conference drafted at seven, which, because, you know, Cam Ward, of course, number one, they had Elijah Royo drafted in the second round, and then it was like a big gap into day three, but they ended up with seven guys. Virginia Tech actually had the second most players drafted in five. So it was a little bit of. of a down year, but hopefully there's a whole bounce back for the conference coming up next year. Absolutely.

Starting point is 00:14:24 And again, this is a lot like we talked about during March Madness. It was a down year. If this becomes a trend or a pattern, then it's something to discuss. But again, we knew coming into the year, hey, this may not be a great year for the ACC. And with some of the things that we saw transpire, I mean, what were we expecting in terms of guys getting drafted? multiple guys that were supposed to be drafted out of the ACC either suffered injuries or had their spot taken just because they were not good enough with all due respect. So, you know, there are plenty of guys all over the place that I'm saying to myself, again, the ACC will be back, we'll be fine. This was just a down year.

Starting point is 00:15:07 Hopefully it does not turn into a down decade. And then you're talking about, oh, that's a trend now. Oh, that we have a lot of data to show. this conference is not keeping up and competing with the others in the power four. Then there's a conversation to have. But right now, I'm looking at a down year and saying, hey, it happens from time and time. And here's the comparison. So the SEC had 79 players drafted.

Starting point is 00:15:31 Big 10 had 71, but it was the ACC with 42 and the Big 12 with 31. So third out of the four, Power 4, obviously there's a decent gap, a 29 player gap between the ACC and the top. two conferences, so hopefully we can close that a little bit more. But going back to the transfer portal, most impactful losses for the ACC so far, players who transferred and left the conference. I think we probably agree on the one from the spring here, and then I'll give you the one from the winter window. But who do you think was the most impactful loss for the ACC in the spring? Oh, I think it's Trevor Payne by my all. I don't think that. Ooh, not J. Not? Oh, I'm sorry. I.

Starting point is 00:16:16 You know what? I will say this. I will say this. I will say this. I would say Jaden Ott has the potential to be the most impactful. He has the potential. But based off last year's production of what we saw from him, I'd say it's Trevor. I'd say it's true.

Starting point is 00:16:32 Because Trevor was fantastic. There was no up and down, inconsistent injury thing going on there. Jaden, if healthy, is yes. He's that guy. Yep. No doubt about it. if healthy is a big thing to say in a sport like football, when you play a position like running back.

Starting point is 00:16:52 Yeah. Yeah, he's in Oklahoma now, which I guess, like, you know, their offense was terrible last year. I mean, I guess, like, historically, Oklahoma seems like it could be a good fit for Jay Notts. So we'll see how it works out there. I've always, I've kind of rooted for Brent Venables to fail. Because it, and you know why I root for Brent Venables to fail?

Starting point is 00:17:12 Because I wanted to get to a point where he, ends up reuniting with Dabo just for the story that he gets he gets fired by Oklahoma. He becomes toxic and he has to go work for Dabo's swinging again. Let me tell you something. Tom Allen ain't leaving. He's not getting unhanded from Clemson for quite some time, okay? Isn't Tom Allen, isn't he an older fella? Like, isn't he like he's probably ready to retire pretty soon?

Starting point is 00:17:36 Like, give it a couple, eventually, eventually that reunion between Venables and it's going to happen. I agree, but I don't think it's this time around. I don't think because I think that the way this is timing up, them OU fans are not going to deal with another season like last season. And say, oh, yeah, it's okay that we lost the Navy and won six games. Yes, that's the expectation here. People were ready to run Lincoln Riley out of that place for not winning playoff games.

Starting point is 00:18:01 And now they're like, well, maybe we could get seven wins. Yeah, we could do it. We could totally do it. So, you know, I think he'll be on the market. print much sooner than Dabo will be on the market for a new defense court. By the way, Tom Allen, man, he's only 55 years old. I was trying to move him into Del Bocca Vista, but he's a lot younger than I thought he was.

Starting point is 00:18:24 That brother has moved into Clemson, South Carolina, and he ain't going away. Yeah, I don't know why. I thought Tom Allen was like in his late 60s, he's 55 years old. He does seem like he's been around for forever. He really is one of those guys like, wait a minute. I've been hearing about him on coaching surges for quite sometime now. How was he still in the 50s? But, you know, he might spend 20 years at Clemson. And then, of course, Trevor Payne, Trevor Payne did commit to Penn State over the weekend, which honestly, like, that move makes total sense for him. You know, I know that we had talked about him getting linked a lot to Miami, but I understand the move to Penn State. I mean,

Starting point is 00:19:03 you're talking about a team that was in the national semifinals last year. They retained not all, but a lot of their talent, including their starting quarterback, Drew Aller, who's a lot better than I give him credit for, despite that choke job in the college football playoff that year. And also Clemson, they had a need for slot receiver, like a big need. You're talking about a team that is built to win right now, prestigious program. Like that move made a ton of sense for Trevor Pena. Unfortunately, it meant the ACC losing one of their better players.

Starting point is 00:19:34 If you go back to the winter window, Kenton, the guy who stands out most, to me that the conference lost was another wide receiver, Eric Singleton, who left Georgia Tech for Auburn, who actually still, to this day, every receiver around the country that jumped into the portal, January, December, April, Eric Singleton is the highest ranked 2025 portal receiver. And unfortunately, he left the ACC for the SEC. So that's another player we're going to be sorry to lose. Oh, absolutely. They're, again, is more of an argument for ACC had a ton of great guys leave in the December port and there was for the Springport because Eric Singleton can absolutely get it done.

Starting point is 00:20:19 He is a burner supreme and he's got hands, good at tracking the ball, good at high point. You know, it's, that's tough. That's just a tough loss. I mean, at the end of the day, it was tough to see him leave the conference. And when you talk about moves that make sense or don't make sense, that move had to make dollars and cents because you cannot look at Auburn's quarterback situation and say, oh, yeah, that's definitely better than what we have here at Georgia Tech, where we have not one, but two quarterbacks that have played a good amount of football because of the injury

Starting point is 00:20:51 to Haynes King last year where we saw Pyron have to step in and be the guy for some time there. So, you know, at the end of the day, guys are doing what they think is best for their career and all that. I'll never fault them for it. but sometimes it comes at the expense of the good old ACC, and we got to live with that too. Coming up next, a quarterback who was linked to the ACC for a hot second, who we're talking about Quinn Ewers from Texas,

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Starting point is 00:23:20 And, you know, Kenton, going back to, you know, January after the, even before the Texas college football playoff run came to an end, I was hearing some rumblings that Quinn Ewers could be someone that, you know, Miami could be really interested in, like, you know, making him an offer, trying to get him to, because this was before Miami. ended up landing Carson Beck, of course, that Quinn Ewers could be person of interest, right? We knew Miami wanted to make a big splash at quarterback. We also had reports from On Three Sports that Ewers was getting allegedly up to $6 million offers from programs to, because we knew he wasn't going to stay in Texas because they were

Starting point is 00:24:00 ready to move on to Arch Manning, right? So it's like, you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here type of thing there. So programs were offering Quinn Ewers allegedly $6 million. So this past weekend, KG, Quinn Ewers gets drafted by the Miami Dolphins, ironically. So I wanted Ewers in Miami. He's in Miami. It works out. God works in mysterious ways.

Starting point is 00:24:23 But he gets drafted in the seventh round. And he's going to make an estimated, you know, assuming he gets through the whole life of the contract, would be $4.33 million total over four years. So a little over a million dollars per year. did he, Kenton, did he make a mistake going in a year early for the NFL draft where he could have made $6 million for one year in college? Instead, he's making a little over $1 million per year in the NFL. Did he make a mistake? Absolutely. He made one of the worst type of mistakes you can make.

Starting point is 00:24:55 He didn't bet on himself, even though there's clear evidence that betting on yourself in this situation will get you paid. I remember there was some. unheralded guy out of Washington State last year that was said to be about the same level of prospect that Quinn Ewery. That was in this draft. Oh, yeah, you know, he's a project more than a prospect. He's not necessarily the guy. He's good, but, you know, he doesn't quite have him.

Starting point is 00:25:26 It doesn't quite have this and that. And he came back to college. And he made more than he would have made in the NFL. Because if Kenmore comes out last year, completely less completely reject what cam ward went on to become let's pretend like we that we didn't just watch that young man go to new york as a high finalist donald if he's drafted in the fifth or six round he's set to make that same four million right how much did he make in one year mine um couple mill at least oh okay oh okay so it literally doesn't even make sense

Starting point is 00:26:08 If you're talking short-term game, the short-term play was the big money over reduced money, but in NFL roster spot. If you're talking long-term play, the long-term play make a team fall in love with you. Just make one. You don't have to be Cam Ward and going to have to have one of the greatest seasons ever. Even if your thought is, well, what if I get injured? Even if you get injured, you're a former five-star quarterback that was the highest rated ever coming out of high school. somebody will take a fifth, sixth, seventh round flyer on you.

Starting point is 00:26:42 Somebody's going to say, well, you know what? How many of Sarks' quarterbacks have been good in the NFL because you were rated that highly? So from the short-term play, you left money on the table. For the long-term play, you're in a situation where, again, hey, we know two is injury history, but you're not coming in as the guy to where there's an incentive that you have to work out. And the Dolphins also have Zach Wilson who again, and again, like, it's not like Zach Wilson has lit it up in the NFL, but he's a lot more experience. So probably Zach Wilson is your backup and Quinn Ewers is your third quarterback, which means there's no guarantee he even makes the roster.

Starting point is 00:27:22 And that's what I'm saying. This is a situation where, again, the short money, the long money did not make sense. I remember I wrote an article when I was in high school, I'm sorry, not high school, when I was in college writing for the school newspaper at NC State where I said, players getting paid will stop players from leaving earlier. And this is a moment where common sense and logic, everything dictated. Even if they don't want me at Texas, I'm going to leave, go somewhere else and put on the show for a year. That's what I'm going to do because I can't, my stock cannot get much lower than it is right now. It cannot get much lower than it is in this moment.

Starting point is 00:28:04 So I'm going to take at minimum five, six, million and then I'm going by my merry way. See what I can do with that year and that five, six million as opposed to saying, you know, I got to get to the NFL. Now I got to get to the NFL now. Now you've got a team where like you said, Donald, you're a third quarterback and you're a what, fifth round pick. So nobody is saying like we got to make him work.

Starting point is 00:28:24 Seventh round pick. Seventh round pick. Come on, come on, come on. Yeah. And that's the thing. How many times I've seen with the first rounder? And I'm sorry to go on here, Donna. I'm passionate about it.

Starting point is 00:28:35 How many times have we seen the team? invest way too much into a first rounder and commit to sunken cost fallacy because it's like, hey, this guy has to be good for us. Teams don't do that for seventh rounders. If you're a first rounder, they will force themselves to make it work for you. A seventh rounder, if you sneeze the wrong way. All right, get out our facility, brother. Yeah, exactly.

Starting point is 00:29:00 And the thing about yours, like, you know, I've been doing a lot of reading about his situation since the draft and like, you know, people that are on like the pro-Ewer's side, like pro him making the move will point out. And I have no reason to believe this isn't true. It seems true. Like money like it's not a big driving factor for him. Now I still think he made a mistake here. But they'll talk.

Starting point is 00:29:22 So apparently Ewers when he was at Texas actually did not accept a collective NIL deal. He only did like traditional, hey, I may advertise for certain companies. but he actually did not take money from the Texas collective. So he may have already left millions of dollars off the table at Texas. So people say, hey, his decision is not driven by money, which I can respect it from that point of view. And, you know, about you were as like he, because remember he started his career at Ohio State, transferred to Texas. He really didn't want to play for a third team. I mean, he thought that that may be used against him.

Starting point is 00:29:58 But again, Cam Ward played for three teams and he's the number one overall pick. And so, okay, so even if, even if his decision was clearly not driven by money, still, you bet on yourself, you play one more year in college. I think he could have played his way way up from seventh round pick, maybe could have played his way into third, second round pick. So he should have made that bet on himself. What could the meaning be that's actually meaningful to life? what could the meaning have been what could have mattered to him that much to say like oh if this now makes sense even if we completely take the money out of it if we talk about your NFL if we talk about NFL career success or wins right donald you tell me maybe I'm crazy

Starting point is 00:30:49 did we not just talk about the difference between how teams cater to and build around first rounders as opposed to seventh round yeah yeah when I taught I made a series of TikToks about how I know Shador is not going to work out in Cleveland, because if you look at the team's face, if you look at the owner, I'm sorry, not the owner, the GM and the head coach's face when they draft them, I've seen more excitement at a funeral. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:31:13 Yeah. And Cleveland was drafting drunk. Like they draft Dylan Gabriel before they drafted multiple running backs. Like I don't know who was at the wheel there. But that's exactly what I mean in terms of the situation. matters. The situation that you go into matters. Hear the way that the Titans talk to Cam War. We're excited about you. We can't wait to get you here.

Starting point is 00:31:41 We want to get you in the building. Hear how the Browns talks your door. You've got to earn everything. Hey, you've got to come in and do the work. You've got to come. If we're talking about his legacy was what was most important to him. If you go back to play for a third team, as embarrassing as that may be, whatever the case may be, you prove yourself to be worthy of a again even if we say he's not the talent that cam ward is so he never would have been first overall you can play yourself into a team reaching for you look at jackson dark you can do it you can do it you can play yourself into a team reaching so maybe a late first round pick and now the GM's fate is tied to you in a meaningful way now the GM is saying we got to make me successful we're going to build around we're going to put the tools there what that helps your legacy brother if you want to do it for championships again oh well i guess going to the dolphins that's the

Starting point is 00:32:34 team that's on the the dolphins have been on the brink of a championship recently right right i mean i guess i mean they haven't won a playoff game in 25 years but i was just about to say come on down that nothing from no perspective does this make sense and here's the thing if this is we got to stop with the double down coach at some point in time we got to be able to admit i made a mistake yeah i messed up I flubbed up. And he did. He flubbed up here. He made a terrible decision. Yeah, he did. By the way, I'm thinking my mind was a little off in space there because I'm thinking, how come no one has made this meme yet? Because there's so many Shador haters out there. By the way, I'm not a Shador hater, but I do find some of the humor in the internet memes out there. So I've made a couple days ago, Kenton, Warren Moon surprises Cam Ward because he, he, you know, his number, number one was retired by.

Starting point is 00:33:25 that franchise. So Warren Moon actually gives Cam Ward his number one back, unretires his number. Whereas, yeah, a couple of weeks ago, Shador Sanders' dad retired his number in Colorado after one, two years and what, seven wins? I'm surprised no one's made a meme of that, that, oh, this guy, his dad retired his number. Cam Ward gets his number unretired by Warren freaking Moon. I mean, listen, again, there is a million reasons to say, hey, Cam Ward did his drive process the right way. Shador Sanders and his camp did not do themselves any favors, and you see the results. Because honestly, we don't have time to get into it today, but I think that the Shador slide is a big way that the NFL is pushing back against NIL. But we'll get in that on another day.

Starting point is 00:34:17 I do want to bring up one more thing, though, on Shador before we wrap it up. I felt terrible for him when she was the son of the Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator must have gotten Shador's number out of dad's Rolodex. And he did that awful prank call claiming he was the saints and were about to draft you. And apparently a bunch of other players got prank calls. This is now a thing to prank, which is to me, that is one of the worst things you can do. To call up a guy waiting to get drafted and prank him and say, hey, we're going to call your name next. Like awful.

Starting point is 00:34:50 and then to know it's the son of the Falcons freaking D.C. I don't care if he's a grown-up now, the son. If I'm dad, I am grounding that dude for life. Like, that is an awful look. And you want to talk about, you know, abusing privilege and growing up with a silver spoon in your mouth. That dude should be grounded forever. Take the car keys away from him. I'm going to tell you this, that's a serious data breach.

Starting point is 00:35:14 That's people's personal information that his father let slip. that's in in most places that'll get you fire that'll get you fire but you know i'm sure the falcons the wonderfully ran organization that they are are going to do the right thing especially because this involves the direct descendant i mean one line down in the lineage of one of their ring of honor members yeah that's right yeah great look for the falcons awful just embarrassing i i did not I prank called exactly zero draft prospects over the weekend. Say. I got that going for me.

Starting point is 00:35:52 Absolutely. And I did have the numbers of a couple of them, and I resisted. I didn't make any prank call. You didn't have me calling up anybody say, hey, they're about to take you now. Listen, you and me both, brother. Okay, we are adults and professionals. And, you know, it's, again, it's just a shame that that would happen on what is supposed to be the greatest day on some of these young men's lives. It really is.

Starting point is 00:36:13 And, you know, I think that this should have been taken seriously when people first started doing it. But if Shador is the one that gets this exposed and says, all right, okay, now we've got to take serious these draftees personal information good. Yeah, exactly. Well, we appreciate everyone making Lockdown ACCC your first listen and your first watch. Make sure you check us out, Kent and Gibbs at Lockdown Wolfpack. Follow me at Lockdown Canes. We'll talk to you next time on another episode of LockdowneACC, part of the awesome Lockdown Podcast Network. Your team every day.

Starting point is 00:36:43 Thank you.

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