Locked On ACC - Daily College Football & Basketball Podcast - MELTDOWN: UNC Football Program in CHAOS as Belichick Era IMPLODES | NCAA Violations EXPOSED?

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Starting point is 00:00:51 We're free on YouTube. We're part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. He is Kenton Gibbs, former NC State defensive linemen and co-host of Lockdown Wolfpack. I am Alex Dono, host of Lockdown Caines, and on this loaded episode, we'll take a look ahead at week seven in college football, although a lot of these other stories are feeling less significant given what's happening in Chapel Hill right now. We have a new batch of ACC football power rankings for you. But Kenton Gibbs, this situation in Chapel Hill, North Carolina might be literally the worst FBS football team in the entire country. despite the second winningest NFL head coach of all time, the guy with the most Super Bowls,

Starting point is 00:01:39 Bill Belichick and his staff, including that Bozo GM Michael Lombardi, promising North Carolina would become the 33rd NFL team. After getting blown out by Clemson this past week, all the fans left the stadium by halftime, Kenton. A report from 24-7 sports today, Andrew Jones of 24-7 sports writes that a potential, potential exit strategy discussions occurred this morning, Wednesday morning at North Carolina.

Starting point is 00:02:09 And while it doesn't mean Belichick will be fired, preliminary conversations about the possibility have occurred. And some folks think he might not be on the sidelines for their game against Cal, which is nine days away, Kenton. So this thing could come to, and we'll talk about why it could come to an end very soon, but this could have been, that Clemson game might have been the last game Belichick coaches in Chapel Hill. Wow. Wow, Dono. You know, I truly hate this for Chapel Bill. You know, everybody's saying that they broke the rules and they were selling tickets and all that. Hey, hey, NCAA, let's take a beat. Okay. I know many, many years ago before I was born, The NCAA bought the absolute hammer down on NC State because players were selling tickets

Starting point is 00:03:02 and selling their own paraphernalia all those years ago. It's a new age. Bill Belichick is old. He's old. Give him a chance. Work this thing out, guys. Give him a chance. Give him a second chance, everybody.

Starting point is 00:03:18 Give him a few scholarship reductions. I don't know. Something like that. But give him a chance. He's just an old guy. He's just an old fella. that needs help with these new rules, Dono. If you're in the NFL and you sell your gear.

Starting point is 00:03:32 If you're in NFL and you sell your tickets, that's legal, ain't it? You know? It is, yeah. How much experience did Bill Belichick come into this season with as a college football head coach? I think he was like, didn't he work on his staff like 40 years ago? I don't remember that, but sure. You know, he just thought the rules were different.

Starting point is 00:03:56 I think the Bill Belichick needs a long, healthy stay in North Carolina. These things take time. They take time, you know. And so I think that the Board of Trustees should take it easy on them. The NCAA should go easy on North Carolina for alleged violations that have been uncovered by WRL, great work by great people, know the folks over there, great folks. You know, Dono, I just think we're all being unfair to bill. And now with my non, I wish that he stays there because there are terrible team glasses on.

Starting point is 00:04:30 What a train wreck. What a debacle. I mean, Dono, we're not even halfway through the first season. We're not even halfway through the first. Have they played six games yet? I don't think they have, have they? No, I think they played five games. They played five.

Starting point is 00:04:45 They beat the two cupcakes and they lost to the three actual opponents by 25 or more points each. Donald, this is really concerning because. this isn't even getting through half of a season and they're discussing potential exit strategies. Oh my God. I've seen Love is blind couples last longer in the pods and in the real world than this. Wow.

Starting point is 00:05:09 What an embarrassment for Chapel Hill. And again, from the ACC perspective of this, this makes us look bad as a conference because no other conference has as big of a clown show in terms of the power four, definitely not in the big two, has as big of a clown show as what we have here in Chapel Hill. This is embarrassing all the way around, man.

Starting point is 00:05:30 I mean, the product on the field, embarrassing. Not one, but two, two failed documentaries, Donald, before your six days. Yeah. Please, how much worse can it get? I am, in the words of Stephen A. Smith, Board of Trustees, I am begging you as a father. Stop this.

Starting point is 00:05:52 Stop this. Guess what? That actually applies to Bill Belichick because the units that his kids coach are stinking. So I'm asking you, too, as a father, stop this. Go get you a qualified defensive coordinator and defensive back coach. This is the foolish. You talk about the failed documentaries. So the latest one was they were going to have a documentary about their season and about the amazing job that Bill Belichick is doing or was supposed to do coaching the 33rd NFL team.

Starting point is 00:06:22 they were filming a documentary for Hulu, but North Carolina is so embarrassingly bad. They canceled it. They backed out of the documentary. So I guess was it really going to be a documentary or was it going to be a commercial? Because I don't know. Kenton, I've seen plenty of documentaries about train wrecks, things that have gone wrong,

Starting point is 00:06:41 but apparently this one was only going to happen if North Carolina was good. But signing up for that documentary, canceling it was another distraction. Bill Belichick's book tour, attention that his girlfriend Jordan Hudson brought to the table before the season even started, felt like this coaching regime was doomed before they ever actually played a game, which is a real pity for a lot of young men who signed up to play there. And of course, you know, the ones that did carry over from Mack Brown's, North Carolina from last year, but they brought in 70 new freaking players in the portal. I don't think those 70 players were expecting that they were signing up

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Starting point is 00:09:25 Use code locked on college at monarchmoney.com in your browser for half off your first year. That's 50% off your first year at monarchmoney.com with code locked on college. Thank you for making locked on ACC your first listen. He is Kenton Gibbs from Locked on Wolfpack. Make sure you check out Locked on Wolfpack. Make sure you check out Locked on Cain's. That's the other show that I host. So, you know, you referenced earlier, Kenton, these these allegations of NCAA violations. Now, a lot of rules have changed in recent years. One rule that has not changed is student athletes cannot sell the free tickets that they receive,

Starting point is 00:10:10 presumably for family and friends. Like, you can't go and turn a profit from those. That is strictly forbidden. UNC players were allegedly doing that en masse, right? You have an assistant coach who's been suspended. for impermissible benefits giving, you know, sideline passes, accused of that, giving that to players, families and stuff. So here is from pro football talk.com. So for North Carolina, the administration, Kenton, it sounds like they're trying to find an exit ramp from Bill Belichick that would involve eliminating or minimizing his contract buyout, which I believe is 10 million.

Starting point is 00:10:48 It's not a huge number because he's only on, what, a two-year deal. they say the fast rolling snowball seems to be related to accounts of potential rules violations. This week reports emerge that an assistant coach was suspended for providing extra benefits to player families and that players were selling free tickets that they had received for games. Jones of 24-7 reports citing an unnamed source. There are many other violations that have occurred, many of them on the recruiting front. Yeah, I heard some stories because one of the problems, Kenton is, Bill Belichick let go a bunch of people from the support staff, you know, that we're already on staff in North Carolina, and replace them with a bunch of people who don't know the rules of recruiting in college football.

Starting point is 00:11:35 And guess what? Ignorance is not a reason to commit violations. What? Ignorance is not an excuse for breaking the law, Dono? Oh, my God. Who could have figured this out, Dono? Who could have did this? Who could have? Wow, I'm so shocked by this, Donald.

Starting point is 00:11:55 I'm so shocked that Bill Belichick, of all people, would be so crass and so reckless in wanting to do it his way. Hmm. A real American patriot like Bill Belichick wanting to do it his way. A patriot wanting to do, never mind, we're not going to go there. Anyway, the reality is, again, I have told you all this a billion times and nobody seems to the one to listen, the Patriot way does not work. But even beyond that, even beyond that, Bill Belichick's way in particular of I do it, how I want to do it. And I will play fast and loose with the rules, which is documented. This is, this was the other part of why this hire was insane.

Starting point is 00:12:36 It's documented that Bill Belichick plays fast and loose with the rules. It was documented for years. Whenever teams went to visit Foxborough, all of a sudden their communications got kind of finicky and nobody's headsets were working properly anymore in Foxborough. Deflakegate was documented. All of the phones destroyed. SpyGate was documented, Donnell. These are things that were on paper. And here's my whole thing about it. Even if your idea is, well, he hadn't been officially punished by the NFL yet.

Starting point is 00:13:05 Sure. You think the NFL and the NCAA have the same level of scrutiny in terms of who they punish and win? You think a school that is looking to get out of your eight-figure buyout has the same level of scrutiny as the National Football League. Okay, all right. I mean, if that's what you want to say, I'll believe you, but again, this was a hire that was egregiously bad for a multitude of reasons,

Starting point is 00:13:33 and it's becoming bad for reasons that even I, a person who knew from the jump, this is going to be a train wreck, could not have seen. I could not have predicted by six games in, we would be talking about, has he coached his last game at UNC after game five? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:13:50 Oh, my God. P.U. brother. This stinks. So Andrew Jones of 24-7 sports said, I don't think it's a lock that Belichick coaches the Cal game, which is going to be played in Berkeley nine days from now, or I guess 10 days from now maybe. Oh, no, it's a Friday night. So, yeah, nine days from now. Okay, so here's the thing I would ask you, though. So when you fire a coach midseason, you typically, you typically. typically replace them with somebody on the staff, interim coach. It happens every year, a number of different teams fired their coach in the season. But like the entire staff are people that Bill brought in that are part of this train wreck. And like half of the assistant coaches are related to him. So if you fire Bill Belichick, Stephen Belichick, does he become the interim head coach? Like I would assume UNC is probably still paying Mac Brown.

Starting point is 00:14:46 Do they bring Mac back? Like, hey, we're still paying you. back and coach the team for the rest of the year. Like I, this is, I mean, even like firing bill, obviously could is the right move long term. Like I believe, I believe moving on from the circus, the right move long term. But short term, it's going to, you know, make, it's going to have to get worse before it gets better there. You know what I think. And let me help you all up.

Starting point is 00:15:12 I'm an NC State grad. I'm going to do my good deed for the day. I'm going to do my good deed to get right with the big man upstairs because I'll probably laugh, than I should on a lot of these Saturdays now. I probably enjoyed and feasted upon the tears of my enemies a little too much in talking about the Tar Heels.

Starting point is 00:15:30 But I'm going to help you all out. Board of Trustees, when you get your next hire, they should fall under two criteria. Their first four names should not be William and they should not be over the age of 68. That's it.

Starting point is 00:15:45 That's all we're asking. That's all we should ask here. Because you're hired William Brown and then you hired William Belichet. Both of whom were over the retirement age in the U.S., Donald. The retirement age in the U.S. is 65. Both of them were over that when you hired them. They're literally over the hill. They've got much more life behind them than in front of them. That's life in general. We're not even talking about coaching success. So, you know, this is a very nasty time for the Tar Heels.

Starting point is 00:16:20 And I think that this will go down as one of the darkest chapters in program history. Because if the NCAA is consistent, this will be a bloodbath for UNC that may spread beyond Bill Belichick, to be honest. And that's the most unfortunate part. You may see a situation where, you know, a new coach comes in under sanctions or whatever the case may be having to deal with these things because of this Belichick high. when when you could have had that guy from Tulane that's shown that he has the ability to be Duke and John Summer. And it could have had it.

Starting point is 00:17:00 It's too late now because he's going to end up probably getting an SEC job or something. Like the ship already sailed there. Well, I would I'll tell you this much. From what I'm hearing, it would be one of the biggest surprises to Vegas if he did not end up in Lexington, Kentucky next. year head coaching at his alma mater. That would be a shock to many. So, you know, it's, if that is basically a done deal, if that's basically a foregoing conclusion, I mean, you're really in trouble because who's your next hire?

Starting point is 00:17:33 Who's your next hire? Who wants to come in behind this train wreck and be the head coach? And I get it. From one instance, it's a basketball school. Nobody really cares about football. And you can kind of slide under the radar, win six games a year against the island of misfit toys, community college, and you know, you'll be okay. But with the new rules that the ACC has for how many power four teams you got to play,

Starting point is 00:17:57 with the new rules about how many conference games you're going to play, and with, I'm going to tell you this much. I don't know about their boosters and what all that looks like, but if anybody decides to get skittish about giving money after money poured in behind Chapparville, what do you do then? What do you do with the spurred fan base, man? This is a tough situation. all the way around. By the way, speaking of boosters, let's turn the page on North Carolina for a minute.

Starting point is 00:18:23 How about this? Stanford, the Stanford football program today has received a $50 million gift from a former player. They don't say who. The gift is the biggest individual gift for the program in Stanford football history, and it is tied directly to football and not to a building or facility project. So it sounds to me like the Stanford alumni base, one person in particular, but I'm sure that this is going to inspire other donations, want to go out there and nail their next head coaching hire, because they've got an interim coach right now in Frank Reich, and they want to actually start investing in NIL,

Starting point is 00:19:05 which is something Stanford has not done. And they've had some football success in the past, not in this modern era, So sounds to me like Stanford. I'll give them their flowers. Like they're trying to at least financially do what is necessary to compete as a legitimate football program again. Hey, Andrew Luck, man. Why are you playing like it wasn't you?

Starting point is 00:19:25 Why are you playing like it wasn't you? What Stanford football alum has made enough money in his lifetime to where 50 mil is a drop in the bucket? And for those of you saying, it could be John Elway. John Elway's career earnings before taxes were about $47 million. there's only one guy that it could possibly be. Andrew, you're a great GM, brother. You're a great GM.

Starting point is 00:19:49 Hey, imagine a GM that gets to pay his old salary and boost the money. No, no. Hey, great job, Andrew. I'm joking. I'm joking. There are plenty of Stanford grads in terms of football that have had successes outside of football. There are plenty who I'm sure have gone on to hit big with whatever startup or business venture. it could have been a multitude of people.

Starting point is 00:20:11 But in all seriousness, I'm glad to Stanford has that. I like when the ACC is good. I like when ACC teams do right by themselves. And that is part of the reason that I, you know, to turn the page back to Bill Belichick before we go back to Stanford. That's why I hated that Bill Belichick higher so much because you did wrong by yourself. Stanford is doing right by themselves here

Starting point is 00:20:30 and giving themselves an opportunity that can beat. Nobody's expecting them to be a national champion next year. But we are expecting them to go to Clarence, T-Chang Stadium in Hawaii and win yourself a football game. That's what we are expecting. You know, by the way, I only know the name of that complex because they were my one-star school that I developed on that college football 25.

Starting point is 00:20:51 Oh. Love that place. Love that place. Turn to a powerhouse. Yeah, for sure. Well, so I guess if Stanford is getting a $50 million donation, we need the algorithm to step up and give $51 million to their football program, right? Aaron Rogers.

Starting point is 00:21:07 You got some money, Aaron, step up. Step up to the plate. Stop purchasing all that ayahuasca and purchase cows and players, brother. Come on, come on, come on. Stop purchasing them dark rooms and get Kyle out of a dark time. Come on, Karen Rogers. Come on, Deshawn Jackson. Go ahead and give some scurlick.

Starting point is 00:21:25 Give some ducats. Marshawn Lynch. You go ahead and whip that cart around the field and whip out the checkbook too. Well, when we come back, we got a new batch of ACC football power rankings. Stanford is not at the bottom. One of the other programs we talked about might be. You want to keep it locked right here. We're not done yet on this brand new episode of Locked on ACCC.

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Starting point is 00:23:11 Locked on can do. Catch college football kickoff every Thursday throughout the season, only on Fire TV. Thank you for making Locked on ACC, your first listen. All right, so Kenton, obviously there's been movement in the ACC power rankings here for Lockdown ACC. Not at the top. Miami stays at number one, okay? I and you tried to talk me out of it last week. I had Florida State at number two last week. Maybe I was trying to hype up that Miami FSU matchup. Florida State has obviously fallen a little bit. All right, Kenton, so behind Miami, I've got Georgia Tech at number two, Virginia at number three. Are you with me on this? The yellow jackets were off last week, but they're undefeated.

Starting point is 00:23:59 They're back on this week. So I've got the yellow jackets at number two, UVA, the overtime kings, I've got them at number three. I think you got it right. I think you got it right. I call that correct. I think that those two belong at the top. I haven't seen anybody perform better than them at a consistent level all season.

Starting point is 00:24:16 I like two and three. I like it. Georgia Tech. Hell of a job this season, man. What great ball they've been playing so far. But the real test are still ahead for them. All right. So I've got number four gets a little trickier for me because based on their last couple of weeks of conference play, I'm bullish on the blue devils.

Starting point is 00:24:34 I do understand, though, they've got a couple of non-con losses. but they're 3 and 0 in the ACC, and Duke, believe it or not, is actually given the second highest odds now behind Miami to win the ACC this year. So I've got the Blue Devils at number four. I dropped Florida State down to number five, so I still have them in my top five,

Starting point is 00:24:58 and I've got Louisville number six who would obviously be higher had they not just lost to pit. So that's what I'm looking at now. Hold on, wait. You got Louisville. in front of UVA? No, no, I got a little behind. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:25:13 I'm sorry. It was UVA they lost, too. I'm sorry. Pitt, Pitt just beat Boston College. Yeah, but no, I do have Louisville at number six, Florida State 5,

Starting point is 00:25:22 Duke four, UVA 3. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, you're good. Yeah, and this is why Alex Donno's power ring is like the undisputed power ring. It's because they're always right.

Starting point is 00:25:32 They're always right. He always gets it right on, right on the head here. I think that this is a good bunch here. you know, Louisville, when they, when everything is clicking for them, they always look good. But I told you, there's always that one game a year where you walk away saying, who was that team? Who was that?

Starting point is 00:25:51 What did they do with the Louisville Cardinals? I watched them all year. They've never done that before. And this might have been that game for them. Hopefully it was at least. But with that in mind, I'm fine with these rankings so far. I'm fine with everybody that's got right where they are. All right.

Starting point is 00:26:05 So a team, they just won their conference opener against Syracuse, a diminished Syracuse. SMU number seven. I've got pit number eight. They just blew out Boston College after making a quarterback change. We'll see how Mason Henshaw, their new starting quarterback, a freshman, how he looks against Florida State this week. I got pit number eight. I don't know. I might have Syracuse too high Kentonet number nine.

Starting point is 00:26:33 They've looked like a shell the last couple of weeks. the Steve Angelly injury, but I don't know, for whatever reason, I still have them right around that meaty part of the bell curve. Let me tell you something. Rick Collins is, he's out there staking to join up. He's out there stinking to join up.

Starting point is 00:26:52 I'm fine with this team dropping as low as about 11 or 12, because this team, it's hard to see where do your wins come with the offense playing like they have been with Ricky out to hell? Like that, and that's just, with all due respect, We can only comment on what we've seen you do on the field. I don't care how close they said the QB competition was. What I'm seeing right now, brother, they could swap you out with Arch Manning

Starting point is 00:27:16 and they get the same results. And that's saying something. That's saying something. That's a great line. All right. So next on the list, so Syracuse at 9. I've got, you know, Clemson moves up a little bit. They did what they were supposed to do against an awful North Carolina team.

Starting point is 00:27:34 But Clemson moves up to number 10. And I got NC State at number 11. I still hold the Virginia Tech thing against you, Kenton. I'm sorry. They deserve it. I've got Wake Forest at number 12. So Clemson 10, NC State, Wake Forest 12 are my next three. Yep.

Starting point is 00:27:53 I think that that makes sense. I mean, out of those three teams, Clemson is clearly the most superior in terms of talent. And when they're rolling at their highest clip, NC State may have the most prolific offense out of the three. but boy, that defense leaves something to be desired. You know, there's a reason that I placed a bet on if, and mind you, this is not a degenerate gambling bet, so don't you put that on my jacket. But I did place a bet saying, you know, somebody said that NC State was going to win 27, 24 in overtime in Notre Dame.

Starting point is 00:28:25 And I said, if NC State holds Notre Dame's office to 24 points in a four game of football and overtime, and they win that game, I will get a, I will foster a dog for at least a month and I will name it DJ for Dave Jr., for Dave Dore, and DJ as in DJ Elliot, our defensive court. I will foster a dog, and I've never had an animal in my life before, but I will foster a dog for at least a month,

Starting point is 00:28:52 and little DJ will be with me if our defense can do that. I'll tell you, you would fall in love with that dog, and he'd be with you for years. I could already tell you that. But I'm not expecting that to happen, though. All right, so here's the bottom five. Cal at 13, Stanford at 14, although they're $50 million richer now. Virginia Tech, I move them up a little bit to 15, Kenton, because Boston College, Boston

Starting point is 00:29:19 colleges look pretty awful. I'm not going to sugarcoat it. So I dropped BC to 16, but I've got the North Carolina tar heels. I think number 17 on your programs, rightfully so. are at the they're in the cellar now unc now 17th out of 17 in the ac c donno i got an idea you know how you were just talking about hey we need more documentaries of teams when they're bad what if you know how they had the two bills for bill parcels and bill bellichick on that giant's team what if we do the two bills part two and we do how catastrophically bad both bill belichick and bill o'brien have been

Starting point is 00:30:01 this year. A documentary, we've already got half the film. We're already following UNC around with Hulu and HBO. Let's go over up there to Chestnut Hill, follow them around for a little bit and have the two bills, part two. It'll be the perfect thing. Sequels are always terrible. The actors always care less. It's always a much worse product, which we're seeing out of both of the bills. Come on. Come on. Come on. This is perfect. I think that's a great idea. So here's your top 17 again Miami number one Georgia Tech Virginia Duke Florida State rounds out the top five Louisville SMU Pittsburgh Syracuse Clemson at number 10 NC State Wake Forest Cal Stanford Virginia Tech at 15 and then the two bills bill ha ha ha Bill and bill 16th ranked Boston College 17th ranked

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