Locked On ACC - Daily College Football & Basketball Podcast - Offseason LIES Were Told About Florida State | Massive Upset Win For Georgia Tech | SMU Escape

Starting point is 00:00:00 Best defensive line in America, they said. DJ O'Yungalai. We got him. We don't need Cam Ward, they said. Man, some Florida state lies were told during the offseason. You are locked on ACCC, your daily podcast on the Atlantic Coast Conference. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. Safe to say week zero was lit because not every underdog won, but they all covered the big spread.

Starting point is 00:00:35 And it was a crazy week zero. Thank you so much to the everydayers for making Locked on ACC, your first listen and your first watch today. We're available free wherever you get your podcast. We're free on YouTube. We're part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. Today's episode is brought to you by Ultimate College Football HC, a brand new mobile game that's completely free, has no ads,

Starting point is 00:00:55 and 100% playable offline. Use promo code Locked on CFB, all caps, inside the game store, to receive a free boost to your program, begin your coaching legacy today. Before we bring on our special guests, let me introduce, of course, Kenton Gibbs. So over there, I am Alex Dono from Locked on Cainz. He is Kenton Gibbs from Locked on Wolfpack. So, you know, Kenton, Florida State's opening drive, I thought we were set for a comfortable FSU win, and then Georgia Tech, they kept fighting.

Starting point is 00:01:24 We'll talk about how it played out. But the yellow jackets end up pulling off a huge upset 2421 over Florida State in Ireland. How are you, sir? I'm going to tell you this was this is a wow I'm struggling to come up with the words to quantify how bad this was I'm feeling great because we get to talk about these things and I don't have a dog in this fight but man if I'm part of an old faithful right now down horrendous ladies and yeah we're going to talk on this episode we'll also talk about SMU nearly catching the upset bug and They were almost four touchdown favorites at Nevada.

Starting point is 00:02:05 SMU did escape. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about what Georgia Tech did right, but we have to start off with what went wrong for the Semitals. And we bring in our very good friend, Brian Smith from Lockedon Seminoles. And, you know, Brian, so Florida State comes in with the most vaunted defensive line in the country. I kept seeing Pete Thamel posts on X about how every NFL scout is telling him best E-line in the country. Not off to a very good start.

Starting point is 00:02:34 They produced zero sacks and only three tackles for loss against Georgia Tech. What happened? I think as well in tune with what's going on with the NFL draft as Pete is, he needs to expand his scouting measurements because whoever he's talking to, they need to change their boards after what I watched. And I host locked on symbols. Look, they got punched in the mouth, as Kenton likes to say, correct me if I'm wrong, 198.

Starting point is 00:03:00 Something like that is what it was, 192. whatever. If you give up that many yards, it's one thing. But here was the determining factor. Because when they tied the game, I said, okay, you know Georgia Tech's going to try to run the ball, eat the clock, and kick the field goal, which obviously they did. They did generic stuff that had been doing all game long. And, you know, they had some shifts and stuff.

Starting point is 00:03:19 But you'd seen everything by that point. This was a mono, a mono, and they nickel and dined them to death down the field in four minute offense. At the end of a game, that, that. That is my biggest concern about Florida States D-Line. Like, you had a chance for redemption and got punched in the mouth. I was pretty angry about that. It's, if they had hit a big play or receiver moss somebody, those plays happen.

Starting point is 00:03:46 That's not the way it went down. I don't, I don't have any remote idea of what the problem is. I know O-line, you know, they have a good O-Line attack. They got a lot experience and all that. But, I mean, they were definitively better for 90% of the snaps. I mean, it was just, and they had no passive. passing game. None. Here's a stat that I believe it was Stamwell even brought up. Fifteen passes, or excuse me, rushes for Haines King. He only threw it 16 times and they won. That is borderline

Starting point is 00:04:15 a stat that you would see with the old Georgia Tech and the triple option. Like, come all, man. That's Florida State shot itself in the foot with their effort. They didn't take Georgia Tech seriously, but this is still on them. Everybody is culpable, coaches, players, everybody. But if they don't figure it out real quick, any chance to go into the playoff or any major bowl, it's going to be in question. With all due respect, I think playoff talk needs to go out the window. This team and this loss, I say playoff talk needs to go out the window because it's not just that they lost. It's how. Oh, I agree. I agree. Donald and I talked about this. We talked about a path to an upset for Georgia Tech.

Starting point is 00:05:01 And I have been around ball for, I mean, combined our knowledge here, you probably got 30 some odd years, if not more, worth of like in-depth football knowledge, not just watching. And he and I both agree. Georgia Tech's path to success is Haynes King flinging it around the yard, making excellent decisions with the ball. We didn't know him tucking it under the right arm was the excellent decision. then it is mind boggling to see that number one, this game was a race to 24. That should have worked in Florida State's favor. They're the bigger team, literally.

Starting point is 00:05:39 They're just bigger than Georgia Tech. We didn't know that this team, that this game was going to be won in the trenches by rushing game. I don't understand how Tofili can't get it going against the defense that was terrible last year. But Santucci, shout out to him. What a defensive player. Second year in a row where he takes down a top 10 team in week one,

Starting point is 00:06:02 Elko might be having some second thoughts about taking Jay Bateman down it. And the third thing about this that's so confusing. We all knew that the passing game wasn't going to be what it was last year. But DJ you look completely out of sorts. He looked unworldly bad at times. Other than those two fourth down conversions on the game time drive, I did not see one big time throw from them all game. it's hard to even comprehend what this game means for the Nodes.

Starting point is 00:06:32 It was something I just did on my own Locked-on Seminoles podcast. Even early, because they were catching the ball. The receivers and running backs, everybody deserved credit. There was a pass early in the game where Tofili caught it. It was behind him. I had to wait. In the NFL, that ball was going the other direction. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:06:48 I mean, ended up being a 27-yard play. Against Miami, against Louisville or NC State, some other teams, that ball is probably going on the way. but text defense is solid, but they don't have a number one draft pick in their secondaries. And Florida State's receivers weren't gaining much separation. Running backs were the key guys. That's not a good sign. That's not a good sign.

Starting point is 00:07:08 Tightens didn't get a whole lot of play for Florida State in terms of catching the ball. The ball was weighed a lot. That throw out there to Cam where he dropped it had to turn all the way around. You lead that dude? I mean, I've watched him play for four years in high school. He's going to truck somebody, throw it way behind him. They end up punting. Like, they just shun.

Starting point is 00:07:26 shot themselves in the foot over and over. It's not accurate enough. Yeah. There's no substitute for lack of accuracy. I mean, Kenton's a de lineman by trading. He knows that there's no way around this. If he doesn't get more accurate, and I know we're going to talk about this in some capacity, the confidence for DJs, what I've been talking about on the last couple

Starting point is 00:07:44 shows, I think it showed in how the play calling was. Because until that last drive, and kudos to him, Kenton mentioned it, those were money shots on Fort Down. Those were great throws. But as Kenton also pointed out, name another one. Now, there were a couple that were at least pretty good, but those two were the ones you're like, okay, that's an NFL throw. And they were at the right time, but why did take to the four quarter?

Starting point is 00:08:08 So a lot of question marks. Well, yeah, and to what you're saying, it really didn't look like Mike Norvell as a play caller has a lot of faith in his quarterback. I mean, everything was behind the sticks, Brian, and until they desperately, you know, needed to drive final drive the game when DJ did have a couple of good throws, really the only good throws he threw all day. But it didn't really look like Norvel had a plan B when the power running game wasn't working.

Starting point is 00:08:34 That is the biggest concern. Forget which writer it was. I just did a pod where I went through all the different writers, like things they brought up. And somebody said that like, hey, they just thought they were just going to punch them in the mouth and run play action as they saw fit. Now, we all probably thought that too. Well, I think that was my guy, Max Chadwick from PFF. That's right. Max brought that up.

Starting point is 00:08:55 I commented on that on X. It's like, oh, add to it. You know, I mean, there's some other things here. Accuracy, talking about the receivers. But then the offensive line, like, your line. I don't know what was going on in the second quarter. Kent. And if you had been up there, how many sacks?

Starting point is 00:09:08 What do you got, man? Right tackle was spinning, bro. He was spinning. Hey, listen. I, and this is why this game is so concerning for me if I'm Florida State. Because it's not just that you lost. And it was a moment where Georgia Tech played their best game. And they fired on all cylinders and everything.

Starting point is 00:09:25 thing they did. It was just like your DBs were in position and he tipped it and the guy catches it and goes on. It wasn't that type of game. Like that, the fact that their offensive line and defensive line were supposed to be where Florida State eats this year.

Starting point is 00:09:41 Those were supposed to be the positions where it's like, hey, if I don't know, nothing else about this team, top five defensive line nation, offensive line that they got, everybody said they stole Florida's best linemen. Everybody said, hey, they ran through the transfer portal and put together a lot of great guys when they ravaged Bama after

Starting point is 00:10:01 Saban left. And lo and behold, they didn't just get beat up front. They got dominated. They looked at times completely out of sorts. And it wasn't like Georgia Tech is bringing a million exotic blitzes. They were saying, man for man, let's see what's going on. Let's see who's the better man. And more often than not, it was the folks with the GT on their helmet.

Starting point is 00:10:22 The rambling wreck was getting it done. I don't have anything to add to that because it's just true. It's time to circle the wagons or it's going to be a long season. They got, by the way, don't take it lightly. They probably won't now. A week from Monday, they got B.C. Remember last year when Boston College almost beat Florida State? That same guy, Thomas Castellano, still plays quarterback for the Eagles,

Starting point is 00:10:47 and he ran for over 1,000 yards. After seeing Haines King, if that doesn't prepare you for him, then, you know, I can't help you. they better have a great week of practice. Because if they, if they screw around and losing dope, go 0 and 2, you all need to tune into my podcast. Well, you should do that anyway. And let me ask you this, Brian, because you talk to Seminole fans every day.

Starting point is 00:11:09 And we all know college football fans can be prisoners of the moment, right? Florida State had won that game. They'd be, you know, getting ready for a national championship. They lose that game. How are the fans reacting now, Brian? and how have some of the season record predictions maybe changed before and after that Georgia Tech game? On my X handle that I have for the pod, locked on Seminoles, I put up a prediction. There's only four options you can use on X.

Starting point is 00:11:36 I did eight and four, nine and three, ten, and two, and eleven and one. Running away with it is eight and four. Running away with it. Now, this is a Florida state handle. It's not my personal handle. The Locked on Seminoles, Bob. I was like, okay, I was surprised by that. I thought it'd be 10 and 2 or 9 and 3.

Starting point is 00:11:56 I was, yeah, yeah, wrong. So there's been an about face because before the season, any fan that came on to like the Lockthons Seminoles YouTube channel, if they said, I don't care if they said, you know, the sky was blue. They hammered them. They have, I mean, I'll give them credit for, you know, pointing it out like, hey, we got problems,

Starting point is 00:12:17 but I didn't think they'd go 8 and 4. Wow. Well, fascinating stuff. and you guys should check out Lockdown Seminels. And also, Brian Smith is the, I call him the recruiting overlord on the Lockdown Network. He does awesome recruiting segments with me on Locked on Cains, with us here on Lockdown ACC. So make sure you check him out all over the network. Brian, thank you so much.

Starting point is 00:12:36 And I'm sure you have an interesting week of shows coming up. So enjoy that. Thank you very much, sir. I appreciate it. Oh, great stuff there by Brian Smith. You got to love it. Got to love the recruiting overlord. All right, my friends, we have a lot more to talk about on this episode of a

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Starting point is 00:15:09 Kenton Gibbs. So, you know, Kenton, you called it. We were having a text conversation during the game when it was starting to get really close. And I'm thinking, man, if Georgia Tech can pull this off, they're going to get a lot more national respect. And then you responded to me, or are people just going to be dogging Florida State and not giving Georgia Tech the credit? I feel like it's playing out that way. And I get it. You've got a top 10 team that was favored by almost two touchdowns that goes down to open the season.

Starting point is 00:15:39 More of the focus is going to be on what went wrong for Florida State versus what went right for Georgia Tech. but I'd like to think that Brent Key and defensive coordinator, Tyler Santucci, they deserve respect here. Absolutely. But it's, again, the way that this thing happened, Georgia Tech's thing is supposed to be Haynes King flinging it around the yard. It's supposed to be him throwing for 300 some odd yards. It's supposed to be him getting everybody involved. It's supposed to be Haynes next to him doing a couple special things in the passing game and the running game, being this dual threat running back.

Starting point is 00:16:14 That's how it's supposed to be. That was the alleged script for Georgia Tech coming in. And lo and behold, Brent Key said, not so fast, my friend. In the words of a guy who got pretty famous down there in the Sunshine State. So I'm understanding of why people are not giving Georgia Tech their credit as much as Blame in Florida State. But I'll be dead if we don't give them their credit on this show. Because the complete 180.

Starting point is 00:16:43 the complete 180 that that run defense has done needs to be. Listen, that is not only Santucci. He put up a hell of a scheme, absolutely. They drew up the run blitzes at the right time and all that, absolutely. But those players are the ones that got to put on their big boy britches and stop the run. And they showed up and showed out across the board. And I'll tell you what, this performance by George, Georgia Tech. I don't care what Florida State season ends up being. This performance by Georgia Tech

Starting point is 00:17:18 should be seen as an absolutely amazing one because, again, you look at this thing and I always say that the fighters don't make fights, the styles make fights. And you're looking at two teams where one wants to power run, one struggle to stop an inside zone by the island of MissFit Toys Community College last year. And the team that was the one that struggled, stop the power run, did not allow for any play action type of deals to come off of it. And I'm sorry, I'm stuttering so much today, but it's hard to even get out. It's hard to process what I just saw fully. So Georgia Tech, hats off to the guys in Atlanta.

Starting point is 00:17:59 Hell of a game. Way to do what they do. I mean, I'm sure they partying on Peastry right now because those gentlemen did what they were supposed to do, plus so. McKenzie, Florida State averaged just over five yards per play. five point two yards per play, which was crazy. And you talked about the two running games. You know, Florida State gave up 190 rushing yards to Georgia Tech. Florida State only rushed for 98 team yards.

Starting point is 00:18:27 Like what prior to the game, wouldn't we have thought it would probably be three times that, that Florida State would probably be closer to 300 rushing yards than 100. And that's why, and again, that's why Georgia Tech needs their credit and needs their low. because it is no first thing first the the offensive line that we talk about at Florida State they were touted as a very good group but the backfield even when you go past to field we all know that DJU is going to struggle at times throwing a ball we all know that however with his legs that man is six four and some change two hundred and fifty

Starting point is 00:19:07 pounds. And he couldn't do anything on the ground. I'm telling you right now, that team did some special things. They deserve all the love because, again, you talk about how we expected it to be flipped and all that, but how flipped did we expect the actual players to look on the field? Because we all knew Georgia Tech was going to have more juice and more energy to start. But it wasn't about the start because in my mind, I'm like, Georgia Tech has more to prove

Starting point is 00:19:37 they'll come out with more of that hunter's edge of this is the champ. We got to take them down. The energy part wasn't what concerned me. It was just the fact that even after that initial, you know, weathering the storm, tied 14, 14 at half, Georgia Tech came out and was still the better team. They still, the score was zero zero at halftime, brand new bargain. And Georgia Tech still found a way to win, still found. the way to physically move Florida State against their will,

Starting point is 00:20:11 still find ways to make DJ Lundy look. The young man was in the blender. And I don't like calling out players, but objectively speaking, you're paying, you're showing up and paying all the respect and all the due diligence to Florida State. And Georgia Tech says, we got some ballplayers too. We got some big guys too.

Starting point is 00:20:30 We got some big uglys too that can get it done. Man, what a game. And the significance of this being, conference game where so not only is Florida State oh and one and obviously like theoretically all their goals are still in front of them right you know one loss doesn't eliminate you from the playoff especially a 12 team or one loss doesn't eliminate you from ACC championship game but it is significant as Florida State not only are they oh and one they're oh and one in the ACC and Georgia Tech is now one and oh in the conference so how much does this shift your expectation on how the

Starting point is 00:21:04 ACC might play out. You remember a couple of the things that we were talking about on the show last week, Kenton. You remember there was that one, one of the writers from CBS sports said that one, one of his hot takes was that Georgia Tech was overrated heading into the season. I think he's probably going to walk that one back. And then the other thing, I want to give some credit here. You know, you and I, you and I weren't really buying. Admittedly, we were both wrong. We thought Florida State would cover what ended up being a 10.5 point spread. Like we were, we were wrong about that. However, we did bring up the fact that the sharps were actually putting in all the money, all the big money they were putting in on Georgia Tech. They actually moved the line from Florida

Starting point is 00:21:44 State minus 13 to Florida State minus 10 and a half. So maybe it's time to give credit to the wise guys as well, because they knew what they were doing. Absolutely. But also, let's give a little bit of credit back to ourselves because we were wrong about this game in particular. But I want anybody who has watched this show who's going to call us everything, but children of God. I want y'all to go back and tell me what me and Dono both said about the ACC and how wide open it is this year. We both said that. Neither one of us said, hey, Florida, is Florida State and everybody else? It's Florida State and Clemson and everybody else. It's Louisville and ever. We both agreed this is a wide open ACC. We just didn't know how wide the floodgates

Starting point is 00:22:26 would be because Georgia Tech, as of now, is the front runner in the ACC and everybody's trying to catch them. You know, and The next time they'll be an underdog is most likely against Louisville in about a month. And they got four games between now and then. So, you know, this is, I'll tell you, this is quite the development, quite the game. And this could have not only ACC relevance, but national relevance in terms of the things that happened in Dublin, Ireland, on Saturday night. Now, coming up next, concerns over SMU. Is it too much of a prisoner of the moment thing?

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Starting point is 00:24:31 every day. He's Kenton Gibbs from Locked on Wolfpack. I am Alex Dono from Locked on Caines. So the SMU Mustangs, now a member of the ACC, they are one and oh, Kenton. That's the good news. They needed the late game heroics from Preston Stone, their quarterback, and R.J. Merrill and their top receiver who had a big game, eight receptions for 162 yards and a touchdown to beat the Nevada Wolfpack on the road. Nevada were nearly four touchdown underdogs in this game Kenton and they almost put it off. SMU looked very shaky, but they got the job done. Am I overacting, overreacting when I say, I'm not so sure they're ready for ACC play this year? Not at all, because this is the exact antithesis of the Florida State game.

Starting point is 00:25:17 The things that were supposed to be SMU's Achilles Hill were their Achilles Hill. Everybody said, in the trenches, are they good enough to hold up in the ACC? That was the question. How would they look in terms of being physical with the teams in the ACC as opposed to the American conference? Domney, just off the top of your head, how many yards per rush do you think that's a new average? Well, I already know. So if I tell you, am I cheating? Like three, three yards per rush.

Starting point is 00:25:49 You're technically wrong, 2.9. Oh, you got me. Okay. Two point nine yards per rush. This is insanity. I am, listen, I have told people, and I stick consistent on this with SMU, I think that they're good enough to play spoiler to certain teams in the ACC, 1,000%.

Starting point is 00:26:13 I don't disagree. At the end of the season, teams will sleep on them, and they will catch them slipping. Do I think this team is good enough to contend? Not right now. Not right. Love me some reds. Lashley, love me some Preston Stone, love me some RJ America. I don't think that they are at the level right now.

Starting point is 00:26:31 And that's not, that's not me saying, oh, I was all in on them. And then this game, no, if anything, this is more of a confirmation bias moment for me, because I suspected that they weren't there. And this game would just say, yeah, they're not. They're not. So safe to say stock considerably down on Florida State, stock considerably up on Georgia Tech and stock way down on SMU right now, despite the fact that they are one and oh.

Starting point is 00:27:02 And I saw a couple people like on social media saying, well, you know, you should know that SMU, they're going to struggle a little bit now that they're in a power four conference. But what does that have to do with Nevada? I mean, Nevada has nothing to do with the ACC. A two and ten Mountain West team should never, should never have you out here like that. That's just, again, shout out to the late game heroics from Preston and RJM. Shout. All the love in the world.

Starting point is 00:27:32 This is no disrespect. This is not to say, hey, they're a terrible unit, anything like that. If anything, you know, you say stock way down on SMU, my stock, my SMU stock, in my estimation, my valuation of them would be exactly the same leaving that game as it was coming in. Because to me, if you played a role of spoiler, just the same that you have games, where you'll be fantastic and you'll be the team that you shouldn't, there will be one or two,

Starting point is 00:28:00 where you look terrible and you either lose to a team that you shouldn't or it's going to be way too close for comfort when it shouldn't be, which is what we saw Saturday night. That's what I felt like it was here. So me personally, yes, Georgia Tech Stock, through the roof from me. Florida State stock is taking the nose dot. And some you stock holding steady right where I thought it would be. Y'all are going to be spoilers at best, at worst.

Starting point is 00:28:24 It's a tough year. You got to just take your lumps, just like with relegation and promotion. Teams who get promoted are most likely to be relegated because that's just what it is. Well, week zero was nuts. I wonder how many twists and turns week one where there's going to be a lot more games, week one, how crazy that's going to be. We'll continue to preview that all week long. We're also Kenton going to have on our next episode, the season debut of he said,

Starting point is 00:28:50 she said, the fan said. and I don't know how many people were on top of that Georgia Tech upset, but I would imagine most of us and most of the fans are going to be eating some crow this week. Yes, sir. Everybody starts off 0 and 1, but don't worry. We'll be back next week. All of the games will be uploaded by the time you hear this. Every single game for a week two.

Starting point is 00:29:15 If an ACC team is involved, it will be up. So we're going to talk about the next episode, but get in there and get your vote. boat's in. Your boat matters here on Lockdown, ACC, baby. Yeah, follow at Lockdown, ACC on X. Huge shout out to Kenton. Gipps. Huge shout out to Brian Smith for joining us. I'm sure, I'm sure his shows are going to be, are going to be doing very well this week,

Starting point is 00:29:38 but it's going to be wild after that upset loss for Florida State. And we'll talk to you guys again next time on another episode of Lockdown ACC, part of the awesome Lockdown Podcast Network. Your team, every day.

Locked On ACC - Daily College Football & Basketball Podcast - Offseason LIES Were Told About Florida State | Massive Upset Win For Georgia Tech | SMU Escape

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