Locked On ACC - Daily College Football & Basketball Podcast - REVEALED: The Big 12 JOINS ACC and Big Ten for 24-Team College Football Playoff—Will SEC Cave?

Episode Date: June 1, 2026

ACC football faces a seismic shift as the Big 12 officially backs a 24-team College Football Playoff, joining the ACC and Big Ten in pushing for expansion. Can Greg Sankey and the SEC hold out, or is the end of conference championship games inevitable? Alex Donno and Kenton Gibbs debate revenue concerns, the ideal playoff format, and whether automatic bids or at-large spots should rule the postseason. Florida State’s recruiting struggles reach a new low as blue-chip safety Makai Williams decommits following a visit to Wisconsin, raising questions about Mike Norvell’s job security and the outlook for Seminoles football. Plus, Texas Tech’s Brendan Sorsby fights for eligibility despite a record of 10,000+ sports bets—does privilege trump consequences in NCAA football? The show wraps with the ACC basketball schedule shakeup and whether traditional rivalries can withstand the new era of rotating matchups. Everydayer ClubIf you never miss an episode, it’s time to make it official. Join the Locked On Everydayer Club and get ad-free audio, access to our members-only Discord, and more — all built for our most loyal fans. Click here to learn more and join your team’s community: https://lockedonpodcasts.com/everydayerclub   Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! Indeed Listeners of this show get a $75 Sponsored Job Credit to help give your job the premium placement it deserves at http://Indeed.com/podcast   FanDuel Today's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. Right now new customers can bet just five dollars and get one-hundred and fifty dollars in bonus bets if your first bet wins. Visit https://FANDUEL.COM to get started — Play Your Game.   FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Big 12 has officially joined the ACC and the Big 10 in supporting that 2014 college football playoff. What stands in the way of that happening and what's it going to look like when it ultimately happens? You are Locked on ACC, your daily podcast on the Atlantic Coast Conference. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. He is Kenson Gibbs from Locked on Wolfpack. I am Alex Dono from Locked on Cain. and on this loaded episode of Locked on ACC, we've got all the basketball matchups in the ACC announced

and made official for this upcoming season. It should be a good one. We'll talk about it. I mean, you probably know already who, like, the permanent home-and-away matchups are in the ACC. Everyone has a tag team partner for that, but the variable matchups have been announced. We'll break it all down.

In football, now, Kenton, I think Florida State is starting to figure out that if you expect the top of the time, top high school football players to sign up to play for a lame duck head coach. You're expecting wrong. FSU over the weekend lost their highest ranked and only blue chip commit. Outside of the ACC, we can have a conversation today about Brendan Sorsby because the Texas tech quarterback, he is fighting tooth and nail to be allowed to play for the Red Raiders this upcoming season.

And his defense for his compulsive gambling, it's a little interesting. the argument that he's leaning into. But before we get to that, KG, let's talk about this 2014 college football playoffs. So the Big 12 just had their league meetings. ACC, Big 10, SEC already had theirs. And the Big 12 coaches have voted unanimously in favor of doubling the size of this CFP,

which shouldn't surprise anyone. But Kent, are you feeling like me that this thing is ultimately going to happen? and it's just a matter of time. Oh, absolutely. It's not an if. It's a win at this point. And the win is not even very far away. So really, it's not even a win.

It's a how soon? Are we looking at this thing in next year's playoff? Are we looking at it in two years from our playoff? Here's the thing. The SEC has not won a championship in the last three years. Hasn't even played in one in that time. And their top half seemed to be the holdouts. Yeah. Okay. I don't. What, what does that mean? You no longer move the needle. You no longer control the traffic, as the kids would say. So, because you are not there, because you're not perched at the top, and you have everybody else ganging up and saying, hey, this is how we want it? I don't, I don't know why we're sitting here. Oh, well, what might happen? What's possible to happen? It's just going to be.

this is what it is, and that's pretty much going to be the end of the day for that. So I'm a little bit confused there in terms of what we're looking at here for like, you know, how likely is it? It's going to happen. It's going to happen at this point. Just iron out the details. Try to get what you want out of the details of what it looks like going forward. But at this point, trying to stop it is trying to stop the rain from falling, is trying to stop players from getting paid when they're really good players out of high school. is trying to stop me from from shaving my head on the daily basis.

It's just not going to work. So Greg Sanky, the SEC Commissioner, has basically been the last holdout. But at the end of the day, Kenton, like Greg Sanky, he, he works for his member institutions, that, you know, the schools that he governs is SEC commissioner, they are technically his boss. Like the presidents and chancellors of the 16 SEC schools, it sounds like more than a half. Not every SEC school. You mentioned some of the really top programs don't seem to want it. I don't think George is in favor of it based on Kirby Smart's comments in recent weeks, nor who should he be. His team gets to the playoff every single year. You know, Mike Elko, Texas A&M got in last year.

It looks like they're going to be in a strong position to keep getting in. He seems like he's against it. And Elko said a couple weeks ago that, hey, you can see why coaches most of us want this because it's better for our jobs. but more than half the SEC schools want 24. Greg Sankey works for them. I think really Kenton, to me, the holdup is here. Sanky, before he officially signs off on this, he just needs to find his plan for how to make up the lost revenue of no SEC championship game.

Because if you go to 24 teams, conference championship games die. And most of those don't make nearly as much revenue as the SEC conference championship game makes. So once Sankey figures, out how to, you know, crunch the numbers and make new revenue somewhere else, he's going to sign off on it. There is a thing called Batna that I don't think that Greg Sanky learned. Do you know what Batna means? No, I skipped a few days of whatever class that was. It is your best alternative to a negotiated agreement, right? So what does that mean? If you are in a situation and there is an

imbalance of who wants what and how they want what. You have to understand what is next if I don't get a deal done. What are the next steps? What can I possibly get? What can I possibly work out in these negotiations to get this thing done? And again, if you are not in a position of power and confidence where you can say, hey, I have a definitive point where if it goes here, I'm walking away. I'm walking away from the table. I'm getting up taking my ball home. I don't have to be a part of this deal. If it is a deal that you de facto have to be a part of, you have to find a way to get what is best for you in that deal. And I think it was the hubris of Sanky to not say, wait a minute, everybody else wants this. Everybody else wants it. It's not just a few other people. It's not just

the sunbelt saying, give me more. It's not just a group of five saying give me more. Technically, group of six now with the PAC 12 when you come back. It's not just that. It's every single conference except you. And you cannot

opt out. So even if the belief was, well, the Big Ten might be on the fence about it. And if everybody doesn't want it, or if everybody wants it but us in the Big Ten, we might be able to strike something up. You still have to look down

into the future and say, wait a minute, how likely is it that just enough of the Big Ten rolls over this thing? And he did not say, what is the best alternative here? What is the thing that I can get to say, you know what, we'll find a way to offset the 80? Sure, we'll go with it. But instead of looking up how we can stop it,

how we can delay it, let's look up how we can bridge the 80. Let's look up. Do we need to move it a week up? Do we need to tell Army Navy, hey, go take a hike. playing on this week too now. Because I've said this before. People have called me very unpatriotic about this. That game should not have a week of its own.

I don't think it does anymore. Aren't they going to change that now? Yes. It's going to have a guaranteed broadcast window, but it doesn't have a day to itself anymore. And that's my point, exactly. So that's where we already are. And Sankey's people should have got out in front of this thing.

You said, you know what, Army Navy doesn't have his day anymore. as soon the second. The very, the nanosecond that that game is off. They better be able to click their tails over and see two of the best teams from the Southeastern Conference playing football. But again, the humerus to believe, I still control this.

I still pull the levers, stopped him from saying, there's a path forward for me to protect the 80. There's a path forward. He missed out on that path thinking, well, I don't have to protect this. because I don't want it, so nobody's going to want it. Well, look you here.

It's going to happen, and you may be out of 80 because of it. So I don't know if they have, like, the format set in stone for what the 24 team would look like, but from what I gather, the way that they want to do this, and I actually, I don't like 24 teams. I think it's too many, but I actually kind of like the way they would format it. If that makes sense, like I don't like it, but I like the way they want to do it. So the first 23 spots would be for the top 23 teams in the rankings. Like I don't, unless they negotiate this other part later, I don't see automatic bids. And I don't want automatic bids.

I think, you know, the top team should get in. Now, they do reserve one spot for a guaranteed spot for a G6 team, the highest ranked G. Now, you know, it's possible multiple G6 teams could get in, but they have at least one guaranteed spot. And the other 23 spots are for the top ranked team. So at least like if you're going to do the wrong thing, at least do it the right way and don't have like, oh, six auto bids for the SEC and six for the big 10 and two.

Like just let the best teams get in. So I'm okay with the way they want to implement it. I think that a certain amount of auto bids should be given. I think every group of five or every power four conference should have an automatic your top two. And we should have two guaranteed group of six teams and the rest of the field made up. of at large bids.

I think that that most, I think that most captures what the essence and the spirit of this thing should be because I'm a big believer. And at the end of the day, you should have to line it up and show people who you are. It shouldn't just be, you know,

arbitrary rankings by people sitting on a committee, sitting in a room type of deal. Because the reality is, we saw it last year. The Alabama team that we were told was so good. And they were so dominant. and they won their only playoff game

before facing the national champion, that only playoff game was against Oklahoma who's also in the Southeastern Conference. Yeah, that's right. So we saw that team lose to a Florida State team, and they keep saying, well, it was on the road and we had a new quarterback, we had all this new stuff going on.

Last time I checked, Florida State's quarterback from last year was signed to an unsigned free agent contract as a receiver. That team went on to win how many conference games, I know. Ooh. I don't even remember two? One or two. One or two.

They were nowhere near 500 in conference in the lowly ACC, and yet they beat a playoff team. So to me, I think that there should be just a guarantee each power four, boom, you get two. And then for the group of six, y'all get a guarantee two. So that takes up half your field right there. You've got the four power fours,

your two from the, or you're two from the group of five, and I'm sorry, that doesn't even take up half of your field. I apologize. That takes up less than half your field. You've got 14 spots still left for all of the next highest ranked teams up. If you cannot find your way,

And two, mind you, we're talking the top four power four teams or the top eight power four teams. So if we say, you know, one conference will get in two teams that shouldn't have been there. Okay. Other than that, every other team that is in the playoff will be six of the top 24 to begin with. So now you've got six off the board. you got six off the board and we'll say you got four spots taken away by powerful teams that are undeserving and group of six teams. Other than that, you still got 14 spots to get in. That's 14.

If you can't get in as one of the best 14, sit your tail down and stop complaining because I've never heard of a team ranked 15th, 16, 20th at the end of the year that we were like, oh, they got a shot at this day. I don't mind your plan at all. Maybe you should dial up Greg Sanky and tell him, hey, if we do it this way, Greg. And nobody's conference champion loser is hurt by this. Because if you get your top two teams in, both of your conference championship participants, automatic bid. Boom.

Yeah. Yeah, no, I like that a lot. All right, so my friends, when we come back, Florida State, I kind of wish Brian Smith was here, but you know what? I took it easy on Brian because this would not have been a fun conversation for him. Because FSU lost their only blue chip recruit in the class of 2027. Plus, I think Texas Tech is going to lose their quarterback,

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Go to Lockdownpodcast.com slash Everydayer and become a member of the Everydayer Club today. Thank you so much for making Lockdown ACC your first listen. So Kenton Gibbs, like I know Mike Norvell, you know, now what is he, five years? going into year six at Florida State. Like, you know, he's not, he's not been known as like the best high school recruiter, but I know he's not really this bad. Like right now in the class of 2027 cycle, Norville, according to the 24-7 sports composite,

has the 49th rated class in America with zero five-star commits. There are not a lot of those, to be fair. but zero four-star commits and seven-three-star commits. So it's like my point is a guy who I know has never been known as like Kirby Smart on the recruiting trail. He's not this bad. The problem is Kenton, as Florida State on Sunday just lost their highest ranked former verbal commit, Mackay Williams, four-star safety out of Ruskin, Florida. He decommitted from Florida State after a visit to Wisconsin.

Like, you're down bad if he wants to go to Wisconsin. over you. So it's like Mike Norvell, like how do you expect this man to recruit top classes when every high school player in the country has a pretty good idea that he's not going to be coaching you for very long? Donno, I don't think you realize how dumb bad it is that a visit to Wisconsin was the nail in the call for this young man's commitment. Wisconsin's coach is who, Dono? Luke fickle. How cold is or how cold is or how hot as his seat, Donno. Oh, it's, it's also hot.

It's, that's true. He's got a warm to hot seat as well. Have you ever been to Madison, Wisconsin, Donno? Because I have. Thankfully, no. I have. It's actually a beautiful city. It's a beautiful city.

There were certain things that I will not talk about on there that I saw there. I was like, eh, I'm not sure if this is for me. And that was when Beelma had them rolling as a unit. I mean, And I was like, I'm not sure. 18-year-old me was not sure about that for a coach that was super stable, so much so that his next job was a promotion, in essence, to Arkansas. Yeah.

So you had a recruit. Look at another guy that's on the ESPN top 10 hot seat list and say, this seat looks a little colder. Well, he upgraded from the number one hot seat to like the number six hot seat. Yeah. Yeah. And here's the thing. Norville is in year six going in the year seven.

This is going to be the start of year seven. The reality of this thing is this is the problem with treating college sports like it's a business. Because you're looking out for your bottom line, but you're losing fan support. You're losing cachet amongst recruits. Here's a very interesting fact about Norville. in his six, four seasons as the head coach, they have two times as many seasons of five or less wins than they do double-digit wins.

Yeah, it's not good. At Florida State, when I was in college, Florida State was spanking stuff. It was not good. It was not good, ladies and gentlemen. What years were you at NC State? were you there when James Winston was in Florida State? Yeah, so there you go.

Yeah. James Winston, Nick O'Leary, Freeman, Jernigan, all that crew. That's what they did. Jalen Ramsey, you know, that's the crew. That was the demolition crew that was seen. I can't remember James Wilder Jr. and all that might have been a little later, might have been toward the end of that. But still, that was the crew where you were like, oh, man, this is tough.

There's no easy way around this. There's no Dalvin Cook is in the mix here. There's no easy way around this. There's no easy way around this, right? And now you're coming to a point where you have one blue chipper, not even a five-star, one blue chipper, and that blue chipper is ready to leave to go to Wisconsin. Wisconsin and the old Big Ten,

they were barely clinging on to like we're a top 10 big 10 or not top 10 but we're a top tier big 10 school with the new realignment they're not anywhere near that's bottom feeder now this here should be extremely concerning but again when you're worried about the money when you've paid out all this money when you've treated this thing like oh man you know if we don't give them this super contract he'll leave this is what you get. This is what you get. Imagine a world where Florida State didn't give them a super contract.

You say, you know what? If you want to go to Bamma, take it. If you want to live in Nick Saber, Shadow Forever, go for it. We're going to give you a bonus. We're going to give you a slight raise, but we're not giving you anything colossal where basically you're either going to be a lifer or you're going to be here for a very terrible tenure for the next four to five years.

And yet here we are. And, well, Moving on from that sore subject, this is obviously a big 12 story, but I think, you know, any college football fan can look at this and with, you know, just bewilderment. So Brennan Sorsby, he had his injunction hearing today to be allowed to play college football this year, despite the fact that the NCAA has ruled he cannot. And why can he not play? because over the past four years, electronic data has confirmed that Brennan Sorsby has placed over 10,000 sports bets for over $90,000, several of those bets going to teams that he played for.

Right? What he was at Indiana was betting on Indiana football games, and he was betting for them to win. So it's, you know, nobody's accusing him of a point shaving. Let me be clear on that. But he was so he was betting on Indiana while he was there. betting on Cincinnati while he was there. You know, obviously he hasn't played a down yet at Texas Tech, but he was continuing to wager since he transferred to Texas Tech.

So the NCAA, they have strict rules against that, which seems pretty obvious to me. They ruled against him, but he's filed this injunction. They had a hearing today. No decision was made today, Kenton. They say within the next week, they expect a decision. But in terms of the argument that his lawyer, Jeffrey Kessler, is making, Kessler today in the hearing says this is from red raider sports.com. He takes exception to the NCAA saying that Soresby returning to football would contribute to his gambling disorder.

Kessler says that because of the licensed clinician specifically writing that depriving Sorsby of playing college football would interfere with his recovery. So hold on. So the compulsive gambler, who is historically bet on games for teams he's played for, the best way to treat his illness is to let him keep playing football. It's like, I'm sorry, but like playing college football is a privilege. And no matter how many doctor's notes you have, he has forfeited that privilege because of decisions he made to bet on games. Donald passed around the collection play because you're preaching, brother.

You're preaching. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Have you seen the Netflix documentary to crash, Dono? Have you seen it? Have you heard about it? I couldn't get through the whole thing because that girl just weirded me out. But yeah, I watched that.

When everybody saw that, a lot of people blamed the girl for that, but I blamed her parents. Why? Oh, the parents were awful. They were awful in that they gave her no consequences for the rules that she constantly broke, for constantly acting like a degenerate at no point in time. Did they step in and say, all right, enough is enough? We're putting our foot down. There will be punishment.

I'm not saying you got to wait until she get out the shower and go find her with a extension court. I'm not saying that. That's child abuse. Don't do that. If you just thought that I had a light bulb idea for you as a parent, go seek help. But the reality of this thing is a lot by allowing him to play.

only are you teaching him, hey, there's no consequences to your bad actions. Because basically everything in the NCAA is free game now. Everything is free game, except one thing that's been a constant rule for basically all of sports throughout all of history. Didn't Pete Rose say, I never shave points. I never bet on us to lose. I bet on me to do well. Is he in the hall of life?

Exactly. He's not. He banned. He banned forever. Sorry, Mr. Sorosby. Sorry, Red Raiders. You should have looked into that little gambling degenerate before you went and got them. You should have looked into them because this here is, you know,

Chad Morris tried to use a similar defense for his injunction. Chandler Morris. Chandler, yes, Chandler, not Chad. Sorry, Chad. My bad pops. The son, Chandler, tried to say, hey, it was part of my treatment for my mental health that I go out there and play football again. And how'd that work out for?

How'd that work out? It cost him an extra year of eligibility. And now let Brennan Soresby be a warning to all of you, not just athletes, but all of you in general. If you can do a little bit of delayed gratification, if you can do a little bit of my vices are actually going to hurt me or harm me in a major way, I may need to avoid this thing or at least suppress it in a meaningful way. He could have bet on anything else. He could have bet on all the basketball he wanted. He could have bet on the NHL. He could have said the Keynes are going to beat the Knights in four.

He could have bet on the, you know, whatever UFC, the fight that's going to be on the White House law, he could have bet on anything. He could have bet who was going to make what jokes at Kevin Hartzrose. He could have bet on all of it. He could have, you know, but the prediction market is like caution. You could bet whether or not it's going to rain in a particular area at a particular time. You could have bet on anything.

Put your bet on the one thing. You were in the Garden of Eden and you ate from the one tree that you were told to not eat from. Brother, punishment has to be swift and has to be decisive. Because if the one rule that's sacred is broken, we have then opened up an entirely different can of worms

beyond the hundreds of cans we've already opened in college football that I don't think we'll ever be able to recover from. Yeah. I think we're both preaching today. We'll be back on Sunday for the sermon. But let's talk about ACC basketball matchups here on this brand new episode of Locked on ACC. You want to keep it locked. Thank you for making Locked on ACC your first listen.

All right. So the ACC, Kenton released their 2026, 27 men's basketball conference schedule with the matchup. So the primary partners will review this just in case anyone's fuzzy on these. these are the teams to play each other twice every year, every ACC team as a primary partner. For Boston College, it's Notre Dame. Clemson and Georgia Tech play annually home and away. Cal and Stanford, that one makes sense. Duke in North Carolina, that makes a lot of sense.

Miami, Florida State, rivalry, Louisville, SMU, NC State, Wake Forest. I know you all would have like to have Carolina, but Duke obviously gets dibs on that one. Pitt and Syracuse and Virginia Tech in Virginia. So here, Kenton, are the variable partners. These are the teams that will play each other twice this year, and these ones rotate. Boston College and Virginia Tech. Cal and NC State. That one's for you, Kenton.

Clemson and Florida State, Duke and Virginia. That's good matchups there, Duke and UVA. Virginia Tech, SMU, Louisville, North Carolina, Miami versus Pitt, Notre Dame, Wake Forest and Stanford and Syracuse. Anything stand out to you from that list? Well, the biggest thing that stands out to me is the ACC once again got something wrong. The easiest way to do this would have been you have 18 teams, break them up into six pods of three.

Inside your six pods of three, these teams are on a constant rotating schedule of playing each other. Bada bing, bada boom, you get to keep a lot of matchups that should be happening, happening. You can keep Cal, Stanford, and you throw in SMU and that, and you say, all right, we're going to reduce your travel as much as possible during the conference play. And you get those three playing each other.

Boom, boom, boom. You're real good there. But it's too much like right, isn't it, Donald? Too much like right. You know, they're used to. But with that being said, all of these matchups, they look very intriguing. A lot of them are very much so interesting in ways that

these teams are very evenly matched, you know, for lack of a better term and kind of seeing how these things play out next year is going to be a great time. What I would say is I want to see who's interested in playing each other in a non-conference form, in a non-conference way.

Because some of these, the way that this one-in-one has done things, you're breaking up certain rivalry so certain schools don't play. And this ain't just about NC State and I have an opportunity to play North Carolina Duke multiple times. There are multiple teams in the conference that are sitting up here looking around like, wait a minute, that's

kind of our rival. Why are we not getting to play them? You know, I'd love to see some of these teams bring back some of the older regional tournaments that will give you the opportunity to play teams that are in your cohort that are in your area. And I think it'll be a great time. I think it'll really and truly be a great time for some of these teams to have that opportunity because again, this one and one thing where you get one guaranteed opponent and then you rotate the other, It's kind of nonsensical for me, especially when again, you break down the numbers, 18 is divisible by three. You set your pod of three and everybody gets to play everybody, you rock out from there unless one or both teams decide, hey, we would like a new partner, which they could submit to the ACC, and then boom, you get switched with another team who wants a new partner, so on and so forth. You've done a lot of math today.

You're doing math, the 2014 format. You're doing math for the ACC scheduling. What was your major at NC State? Were you in mathematics at all? I was a communications major, but actually my family considers me the math. Wizz, they still call me this day. If a shirt is $70 and it's 15% off, how much is that off? And I always try to tell them, just move the decimal one place and then divide that by two.

And then half of that plus the full number, that's the percent off. Just tell me how much it is. Okay. All right. All right, Mom. It's, it's $10.50 and $50 off. Just letting you know. So it'll be, you know, $59.50, boom, there you go. Or, you know, whatever the case may be for whatever the price is. Yeah, I can only do math. Or $64.50 in that case. Yeah, $64.50 if it was $75. I can only do math in two different contexts. I can do math in terms of, you know, very quick with like tipping, you know, because anything that involves frugality. And I'm a good. tipper, by the way. I just, you know, I want to make sure I'm not like grossly over tipping. You know what I mean? I made myself sound battery. But in that context, I'm good. And then anything that pertains to, to betting. Yeah. I do it. Like, in those two contexts, I am Pythagoras. But in any other context, like, I can't, I can't function. Don't ask Donald what 12 times 12 is. But if you tell him what happens if I put

$1,200 down on a minus $1,200 bet. Oh. He will turn into Alex Sorsby real quick. He will tell you what the odds. I know the numbers right away. Yeah. And I am a good, well, what would you consider a good tip percentage, like 20, 20% plus? I think anything over 20, you're in good money there. You know what I mean?

If the service is excellent, maybe do a little 30% there. But yeah, 20%, I think you're good. Yeah. So I'm in that neighborhood. So I don't want anyone to come after me. I just want to make sure I get the numbers right. All I'm saying, I'm very good in that context. Anywhere between 20% and 50% is how much I'm tipping,

based on how I'm feeling, based on, you know, if the service is amazing, I'll tip you 50% of the bill, no problem. I love it. Well, we learned something today. A huge thank you to Kenton Gibbs. Awesome job, as always. Make sure to follow him at TGIF underscore Kenton and on Lockdown Wolfpack. You can follow me at Alex Dono.

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