Locked On ACC - Daily College Football & Basketball Podcast - SCATHING: Why Florida State’s Mike Norvell FACES the ACC’s Most BRUTAL Coach Criticism"

Episode Date: May 21, 2026

Florida State Seminoles face scathing criticism from anonymous ACC coaches as speculation swirls around Mike Norvell's "lame duck" status. Can FSU overcome doubts about booster support and alleged pro...gram complacency, or are sweeping changes inevitable? Quotes reveal internal skepticism about Norvell’s consistency despite an ACC championship and undefeated season, raising big questions about the Seminoles’ future in ACC football. Kenton Gibbs and Alex Donno break down the buzziest Athlon quotes targeting top contenders like Miami Hurricanes and Clemson Tigers. Mario Cristobal receives newfound respect following offseason growth, while Dabo Swinney’s Clemson faces scrutiny over quarterback depth and “over-coaching” on defense. Key segments highlight Fran Brown’s leadership at Syracuse amid talent concerns and the dramatic partnership between Bill Belichick and Bobby Petrino at North Carolina. Which programs are poised to rise, and who risks falling behind in this high-stakes ACC football landscape? Everydayer ClubIf you never miss an episode, it’s time to make it official. Join the Locked On Everydayer Club and get ad-free audio, access to our members-only Discord, and more — all built for our most loyal fans. Click here to learn more and join your team’s community: https://lockedonpodcasts.com/everydayerclub   Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! Indeed Listeners of this show get a $75 Sponsored Job Credit to help give your job the premium placement it deserves at http://Indeed.com/podcast   FanDuel Today's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. Right now new customers can bet just five dollars and get one-hundred and fifty dollars in bonus bets if your first bet wins. Visit https://FANDUEL.COM to get started — Play Your Game.   FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's that time of year again. When ACC coaches anonymously talk about the other teams in their conference, you want to get your popcorn ready for these Florida State quotes. You are Locked on ACC, your daily podcast on the Atlantic Coast Conference. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. He's Kenton Gibbs from Lockdown Wolfpack. I'm Alex Dono from Lockdown Canes. and on this loaded episode of Locked on ACC,
Starting point is 00:00:35 oh, we got your quotes from Athlon. I love it. This is one of my, I know sometimes we rag on these anonymous quotes and stuff, but I do enjoy this piece that Athon does every year, because obviously if the coaches put their name on it, they're not going to be honest about their ACC peers. So there's definitely an evolution in the quotes about Mario Cristobal from the past few years compared to this year.
Starting point is 00:00:58 We'll talk about the Florida State criticism. There's some criticism for Clemson as well. Kent and Gibbs, should we start with Florida State where they're essentially heading into a lame duck year with Mike Norville? Everybody knows he's going to get fired at some point this year. You know, Dono, I've seen some nasty quotes from these anonymous things. I've seen some bad ones. These Florida State ones may be the most scathing I have ever seen.
Starting point is 00:01:24 And I'm not joke. Like, Donno, you tell me if you come up with a year of any that are more, I wouldn't even say incriminate, just more denigrating than what we get out of these. But go ahead, Donald. Take the folks to the article. I don't think you oversold it. I think this takes the cake. So there are three different anonymous quotes from other ACC coaches about the Seminels,
Starting point is 00:01:46 the first of which is short and to the point, quote, they don't have the booster support that people might think that they do, which, okay, Kenton, it's not surprising for one simple reason. And like, it's hard to get the boosters excited about investing in a Mike Norvell project when you feel that project is about to come to an end. So, I mean, from that, like, I know that there's money in Florida States, very rich, enthusiastic alumni base and booster group. But it's like, why would they pony up that money for a guy that they're, if any money is getting ponied up, it's to pay his buyout, not to invest in his roster? Absolutely. And even beyond that, you've got to look at the level of which you've,
Starting point is 00:02:28 excel compared to the expectations, right? When you talk about what he has done since he has been at Florida State, you cannot ignore one ACCC championship, one undefeated regular season through the conference championship game. You can't ignore that. Here's the problem. Donald, has there been another Florida State team in recent memory that has gone to the ACC championship or further? That you can remember as like, I was a grown adult when it's a.
Starting point is 00:02:58 happened multiple times the expectations are what gauge like what's allowed and what's not if michael had the exact same record at one of the schools we're going to talk about later in boston college people would they build them a statue they build them a statue it'd be the eagle and it'd be norvel petting the eagle right that's what it would be but that's not the reality at florida state they have different expectations than a boston college so you get you know you get oh when they ACC championship. Big whoop. Bowden did that how many times? Jimbo did that how many times? And you want me to get excited that you beat out. Who was the last guy? Taggart? You want me to be excited? You'd be better than tag. And mind you, here's the worst part about it. His record at the
Starting point is 00:03:45 point at which Taggart was fired through the exact same amount of games was worse than Taggart. Yep. That's right. It was worse. But the next year, he got it going in the right direction. And now the winning percentages back worse again. So, you know, it's just one of those things where it's like the expectations of your school combined with the lack of achievement. That's what equals this lack of support from the boosters. Yeah. And on that booster support, you know, you've probably seen this video clip because it went viral. So Pete NACOS from On Three Sports who's like, I guess he's probably the best or at least the most prolific reporter about NIL, right? He's the one who's pocket watching everybody's budget and what all these players are making. So Pete Nacos was on War Chant on one of their YouTube shows,
Starting point is 00:04:33 and the War Chant host asked him basically to go through the entire ACC and asked him if these programs spend more money or less money on their rosters than Florida State. And I think the rosters that he had comparable to Florida States were NC State and Pittsburgh. those were the ones in terms of like roster spending that you know they weren't they weren't up there with the miami's or the north carolinas who do spend quite a bit of money or clemson they they were there with nc states rie kenton and with pittsburgh you know donno that made me a little bit sad until i thought about the fact that hell even nc state as i performed this team oh yeah they they do more they do a lot more with the same budget they'd be getting whooped though they had two all side punts
Starting point is 00:05:22 against Florida State. That's how bad this team has been. You ain't never seen the all-side pump before. But if you watch Florida State, NC State last year, you know exactly what I'm talking about. So, you know, Dono, I do think that that is a shame. That's a shame. And here's the thing. It's the nature of the new world. I work at early stage startups as a recruiter. And one thing I tell founders all the time because every founder thinks that their company is the most special thing in the world. And you're going to want to come here because of our mission. sell our mission can be an evangelist for our mission here's the thing gas is almost four dollars and some change a gallon almost everywhere in america who the hell is signing up for mission bucks
Starting point is 00:06:02 it's the same thing for these young men these young men are not no longer signing up to buy into programs where it's like man that spear is really good man war done was great there man james weston was great there man we we had a lot of great players here it doesn't matter It doesn't matter. Carson Beck didn't go to Miami because the Rock played there. He wasn't, you know, Ruben Bain wasn't sitting there thinking, huh, they did have Warren Sapp here. I think I can play here. It doesn't work like that in today's game.
Starting point is 00:06:37 And granted, I know Ruben got there before NIL was in full swing, but you get the point. It's no longer about sell the mission, sell the evangelize what we do and how we do it to Florida State Way. It's about can you meet, can you build that relationship? Can you sell the way you do it and come in at a price point that makes sense for these young. That's right. So let me give you the other two Florida State quotes. Tell me your thought. Again, these are anonymous ACC coaches talking about their peers in ACC football.
Starting point is 00:07:06 The next one, the volatility with Mike Norville is something that I've never seen. Norvelle is a really good coach, but one of the hardest things in football is fighting complacency. I think once things started going well, they, gave in an inch here and there, and you look back in a year and you see that you gave up a mile. I thought that's a very profound quote. Let me give you one more. They can reinvent themselves and be who they set out to be, but can they do it consistently and not just a flash in the pan?
Starting point is 00:07:38 With a new group of people and some new coaches, I think it can be reversed. The players have to take charge of that. So that third quote is a little more positive. But what do you think about that volatility, quote, Kenton, that once they found some success, they allowed complacency to set in. And that's the part that I say is scathing. That's the part that I say skating for this reason, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:58 If you don't think a guy has the aptitude as a coach, if you don't think, hey, this guy can scheme it up throughout it. He's just not that. To me, it's not an indictment of a man to say, God didn't give you enough to succeed in this realm. That's not a deep indictment of a man. You know what is an indictment of a man? I would never be embarrassed to hear somebody say,
Starting point is 00:08:16 Ken, you can't recruit at this level. This is just a different. game again i'm talking about recruiting in terms of hiring engineers and whatnot which is my job outside of this i wouldn't be upset at that i would be upset at somebody saying can you are the best recruiter i've seen you just keep getting away you keep giving away the little things and now your company can't find any talent that would piss me off because now you're telling me that i had the ability to do more that i showed you the ability to be better and where did i land somewhere in the in the in the you know, in the gulag, basically,
Starting point is 00:08:52 because I've let one thing slip and the other thing slip, and I got complacent as a coach. That ain't won Jack. That ain't one Jack. With all due respect, I get it. Winning an ACCC championship is a massive deal.
Starting point is 00:09:06 It's a massive deal. But again, Dono, when's the last time Florida State had two back-to-back coaches that did not win an ACC championship? When's the last time? Before Bowden? Literally, 1960s?
Starting point is 00:09:23 You got to go back to when me and you couldn't use the same restroom, Dono. That's how far you have to go back to find a moment where they did not have that level of success. So again, that to me is like if you believe, for example, when people believe Mario was just born on third base and had success via people giving them great jobs, guess what? I'll take that. I'll fail forward and y'all gave me jobs I did deserve all day low. Because that way, if it don't work out, hey, I didn't deserve this job anyway, man.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Y'all just got to put me in the spot I didn't belong in. But if you tell me, we know you can do it, you're choosing not to. You have made choices from a man to a man to settle for mediocrity. That would embarrass me. That would hurt me. Well, I want to get to the quotes on Mario Cristobald next because I will admit, Kenton, when this story came out, courtesy of Athlon, I've been tracking these every year. And I was really bored with this year's quotes about Miami because the past few years,
Starting point is 00:10:26 there have been some serious jabs at Mario, right? It took them a couple years for people to stop talking about the not taking a knee against Georgia Tech or about, you know, the amount of money, Miami spending on the roster, not equaling success on the field. Like there was a lot of venom the last few years. And it's like, I wanted to devote an episode of Locked on Cains to this topic, but I can't do it this year. The quotes are boring. So we'll talk about those. And the quotes on Clemson, though, those are pretty good.
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Starting point is 00:12:40 That's Lockedonpodcast.com slash Everydayer and join the Everydayer Club today. Thank you for making Lockdown ACC your first listen. All right, so Kenton, here are the anonymous ACC CECCOQA quotes about Miami and Mario Cristobal. The first quote, simple as it can be, they're absolutely the favorite in the ACC. End of the quote. So again, the host of Lockdown Cain's, there's not much I can do with that. It's pretty boring vanilla, but, you know, it is flattering. Then the second quote, a little longer, I guess it reads a little bit like a backhanded compliment, but still a compliment.
Starting point is 00:13:20 So the anonymous ACC coach says Mario Cristobal has enough scars from losing heartbreaking games the last couple of years that he's not going to let that happen again. The people there that he's finally surrounded himself with are going to be in a position to give him guidance, especially on game day, management of the game, all of those kinds of things with just making decisions to win the game. He's phenomenal around recruits, they say. When it comes to getting big time players to come there, he's special. It's great to see his growth as a head coach. I truly think that the painful losses that he's had the last couple of years will be the reason why he makes sure that he wins the ACC this year. So again, it's a little backhanded, but it's still, they stuck the landing,
Starting point is 00:14:02 and it's flattering and constructive. But you know what? Like I just said about the Norville quotes, right? If you say I don't have something, like I legitimately don't have it, I live with that, right? Like, hey, you doesn't have the ability to manage the game is one thing. Like it's a difference to say he's lost heartbreaking games in fashions that like he knows better than he knew better and he did it anyway. If you think that he's a village idiot that's really good at recruiting, that's how you feel about him. That's how you did.
Starting point is 00:14:30 You know, and that's what the quotes looked like in previous years, if we're being honest, but they've come around. But I'm going to tell you, but I'm going to tell you, you know what makes people come around? You know what makes people talk about Chicanoly? Winning. That's all. Yeah. That's all. You know, everybody's a critic.
Starting point is 00:14:45 everybody's rude when you're eight and four with Miami's budget. But once you go about 12 and 2, 13 and 2, you know, 13 and 3, 13, you know, 12 and 4, that's when people start saying, well, hold on, no. Maybe that Cristobar guy, maybe he's cracked the code. He's figured it out, I know, who knows. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and, you know, having covered, you know, Christobal for his entire time at Miami as head coach, there's constant evolution.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I mean, it's no secret. He's made some brutal. in-game mistakes, but he has really made an effort to learn from it. I think it's a testament to how much he loves Miami. He doesn't want to let his alma mater down. So, you know, since the knee that wasn't taken, he's had a different protocol with people that he delegates to in late game situations. So, I mean, he desperately wants to make sure that that stuff doesn't happen again.
Starting point is 00:15:37 And I think even in this quote, right, it talks about the evolution and the low ego approach of saying, you know what, I don't know it all. You know what? I do need somebody to come in and help me and say, hey, this is how this needs to be done. And that, to me, that's one of the biggest characters you can give somebody or one of the biggest credits to someone's characters you can give them, that they understand where they lack and they surround themselves,
Starting point is 00:16:01 not with sycophants who will say, oh, you know, that's Houdini Brown right there, rubbing Ali's shoulders. You're the champ. You're the greatest there ever was. There's no hole in your game, man. Nobody throws a jab. Nobody throws a straight like you. but people who will tell you what it is,
Starting point is 00:16:17 what it could be, what it can't, that's what makes you great. That's what makes you better. Yeah, that's well said. All right, so let's get on to Clemson. And I definitely, I want your take on this first quote being that you're, you know, former ACC defensive linemen at NC State.
Starting point is 00:16:32 This is a really interesting quote here on Clemson's defense. It's almost like they overcoach their defensive players instead of letting them cut it loose and play. There were some schematic things where you felt, like you could get them out of position. Usually teams that are really talented do a little less and try to just let those guys cut it loose. That seems spot on to me, Kenton.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Do you agree? Dono, I want to bring the mic in close when I say this, because I want everybody to hear this extra loud. Yeah. Putting Peter Woods at defensive end last year, making him your primary looper instead of the penetrator on stunts. What were they doing? Stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Stuff like that is why I say Brent Venables should have been the Bud Foster of the 2010s beyond because this type of stuff when Brent was there, he wouldn't stand for that. You got a defensive lineman that's hellified at being a defensive line.
Starting point is 00:17:35 You got a big fella that's really good at moving offensive linemen against their will. Why would you decide to, put him out wide against tackles who specialize in saying, hey, I like this amount of space as opposed to keeping them in there in tight
Starting point is 00:17:52 with those guards that like to reach and lunge and do all that. It's foolishness. There's foolishness. And if you watch their run fits, I a thousand percent agree with this coach, or with this anonymous quote, there was too much analysis. There was paralysis by analysis. That's the, to
Starting point is 00:18:08 simplify it, if you play football before, you've heard the phrase, if you're out there thinking, out there stinking. You're just supposed to be react and go. Sammy Brown is a freak athlete. He's a freak athlete. And yet so many times you saw him get reached because it's like he's, he's almost frozen there.
Starting point is 00:18:25 One thing about those Tony Gibson-led defenses at NC State, watch his linebackers. They don't hesitate at all. Right, wrong, indifferent. They're going to go where they're going and they're getting to where they got to get to. And that's the end of story. Clemson's linebacker showed much too much hesitation last year. And that's what greatly cost them.
Starting point is 00:18:44 That's what greatly cost those run fits to be drastically changed from what they should have been otherwise because you needed a massive disruptor like Peter Woods, like Peter Woods to kind of clear things up in there because the linebacks are sitting there thinking, thinking, where's the ball going? Dude, be a ball player. You didn't get here by thinking for forever before you pulled that trigger. Go, go, see the hole, go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:09 So these other two Clemson quotes are both about. their offense. I'll give them to you back to back because their similar theme. First of those is their backup quarterbacks didn't play much last year, and I don't think that they were very good. I'd be shocked if they were better on offense, even if they're coached better. When Clemson is good, their quarterback is really good. Then the other quote, the same concepts that they ran in 2025. You can go back to the beginning when Davos Sweeney got there and see the same thing. I don't think it was offensive coordinator Garrett Riley's offense. He's been fired since.
Starting point is 00:19:46 It was essentially Chad Morris's offense being called by Garrett Riley. And I guess now Kenton, Chad Morris's offense will be called by Chad Morris again because he's back. What do you make of the... I thought the thing about the quarterbacks, I agree wholeheartedly, right? That, you know, if they don't have a great quarterback this year,
Starting point is 00:20:02 they're not going very far. So now, now folks who watch Locked on ACC, folks who are fans of Locked on Podcast Network, you know, I know some of y'all like to get like to dig into me and Dono verbally and talk about what we don't know and we don't know ball and all that. Is that what the comments are saying? Geez.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Well, you've seen it. You've seen the comments, Dono. And the reality is this, right? As much as we don't know ball, these guys that are getting paid six or seven figures to no ball are saying the exact same things we are. Yeah, right. You just don't like the messenger. There's something funny going on in that quarterback room. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Yeah. Why does everybody think that? Why does everybody think that there's a problem with Clemson's quarterbacks? Here's the thing. Do they have one of the best wide receiver rooms in the nation? I would still argue it's up there. I would still argue if you did a top 25 to 30, they would be in there, no doubt about it. But last year, there were a lot of injuries.
Starting point is 00:21:00 So you kind of gave them a year and all that good stuff. Even still, I think the quarterback play has to pick up there. They have to figure something out. Clemson being good when their quarterback is good. That's obvious. Everybody's good. Who's been good without a really good quarterback? Who?
Starting point is 00:21:18 Maybe Notre Dame? That's the only team I can think of that. They've had some quarterbacks that are questionable and they've still been a really good team. You've got to go back to like the early Sabin, Alabama years, but the game has changed since then. And now it's usually if you're a great team, you've got a great quarterback. Exactly. And so if this Clemson team wants to get it together,
Starting point is 00:21:38 Vecina doesn't have to take a, leap. He has to take a hop, a skip, and a jump. You understand? A, you know, Combine-style broad jump into being a new quarterback because, again, a guy who was backing up Clubnik last year and is still in competition going into Fall Camp, that should give every Clemson's and Tiger fan reason to be a little bit worried, be a little bit nervous going into the season. You know, I'll say I want to talk Syracuse and UNC when we come back. You know, two teams that come off of really rough seasons. But I will say the quotes about Syracuse really show Fran Brown is respected by his peers.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Like despite coming off a really tough year, he is respected by his fellow ACC coaches. You want to keep it locked right here. We're not done yet on this brand new episode of Locked on ACC. Thank you so much for making Locked on ACC your first listen. So Kenton, when I was looking at the quotes about Syracuse, I didn't know what to expect because, you know, Fran Brown is very polarizing. You and I are both fans, but he does take a lot of criticism. You know, you think about the way people were dissecting, you know, when Calvin Russell was injured and he was like in practice the next day on the cart with the thing over his light. Like people seem to criticize everything Fran Brown does, but it doesn't seem to be coming from within, like at least not his coaching peers.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Let me give you a couple Syracuse quotes here. Now this one, listen, this goes back to what you were saying about the quarterback thing. If Steve Angelli is healthy, it will be fixed, they say. It's really what it comes down to. I don't know if the other guys in that room are any good, but Angelly is really good. Here's a quote that's very positive on Fran. Fran Brown is a good leader. If he sticks to his strengths, he'll do fine.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Does a good job running that program. He does a good job evaluating. Hopefully the overhaul of the staff will help him tremendously. especially on the defensive side. Then on the offensive side, I don't really know the receivers they brought in, but there's some talent still there. I take that as pretty positive for a program that went two and ten last year.
Starting point is 00:23:57 I am worried. And here's why. Even though I'm a fan of Fran Brown, too. I don't think that losing any one player, including your starting quarterback, especially in a situation in which his starting quarterback came. makes you a two-win team or three-win team, whatever they were. And your next quarterback up should not be somebody on a lacrosse scholarship.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Like, where is your depth? My problem is it's okay to lose games competitively. It's okay. You know, you miss your start quarterback, you lose games competitively. I'm okay with that. They did not look competitive at all coming down the stretch. They did not look like a serious operation coming up. down the stretch. I like Fran Brown. I'm a believer in Fran Brown. I believe that Fran Brown was, you know, I talk, I joke a lot about Mario Cristball and some other coaches being born on third base, being given these great jobs as like their first job or their second job rather and all that good stuff. But here's the deal with Fran Brown. I really do think given more NIL support being in a place where there was a little bit more funding for football, I think he'd do great. I'm concerned about him.
Starting point is 00:25:12 at Syracuse because I think he's getting too much of a pass for how bad they were last season based upon the fact that, well, your starting quarterback was hurt so we didn't expect anything. I'm not saying I expected you to be the same football team. I'm not saying I expected you to be great. But again, I do not, I cannot in good conscience say, oh yeah, I, you know, if NC State would have lost CJ Bailey, three and nine would have been acceptable.
Starting point is 00:25:38 The hell it would have. Nope. The hell it would have. And the other quarterback, on NC State was a freshman who would have been a walk-on, most likely, if not for him being basically NC State Ro Roach. He's a Thomas brother, if you know, you know, in terms of the NC State World. And Will Wilson, who he's really great at running the ball, but as a pastor last year,
Starting point is 00:26:02 it just was not there. I still wouldn't have said three wins is acceptable, even though, you know, you lost your starting quarterback. So I'm a little bit concerned about that, but I do love the fact that everybody is, that there's belief around him, even from his opponents, even from people who are not within the Syracuse program, there's belief that he will get it together. Because I think that he can. I think that he can, but I think that he needs to change a lot from a three and nine year. I don't think you're just one quarterback away from being a really good team after three and nine. Yeah, that's well said.
Starting point is 00:26:38 But here are the quotes on North Carolina. I felt like they went a little easy on Belichick. Maybe not this one. So here's a quote, Kenton. This one didn't go so easy on him. I don't think there's a sense that they've improved their evaluation abilities for this day and age of college football to bring in the right guys. I mean, that's pretty harsh.
Starting point is 00:27:00 And you know what? They deserve every word in that quote. Because when he, when Belichick and his GM Michael Lombardi, come in. It was mostly Lombardi being the loud mouth about we're the 33rd NFL team we're going to be evaluating and developing players as if this was an NFL operation. I mean, so hokey. You put the cart before the horse and all that. So yeah, the evaluation Kenton to this point clearly has not been there and they deserve every word of that quote. I mean, I'm still worried about the evaluation standpoint of it because last time Lombardi was a
Starting point is 00:27:37 GM it didn't go great. Last time Bill Belichick was a head coach, it didn't go great. So what is the belief that these two are all of a sudden going to get their act together and be a totally different outfit than what we saw last time we saw? I think that what we saw last season was just the part two of everything that we'd seen from them in terms of the downhill slide for both of them. All right. So next quote on North Carolina,
Starting point is 00:28:06 they were pretty bad on offense, but the guy they hired Bobby Petrino is phenomenal. He's as good of a coach as there is with offense and college football. I can't imagine how that dynamic with Belichick is going to go, though. So I guess that's what I call a backhanded compliment, Kenton, where it's like they hired a great offensive coordinator, but is he going to get along with the head coach there? Is the head coach going to let him do his thing there?
Starting point is 00:28:31 I think is what that means. Well, no, they worried about both of them fighting over 24-year-olds. Okay, no, I'm just joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. Did you see my guy, Coach O, just joined Lane Kiffin's staff as well, so that's... I'm going to tell you something. Boy, them backyard brawls in frat houses over or sorority houses over those young women. They're going to be legendary in Baton Rouge and Chapel Hill.
Starting point is 00:28:57 But in all seriousness, I do think that Petrino is one of the best offensive minds in the game. I don't think if he wasn't, he wouldn't be. able to get away with some of the stuff that he's done. Like, that's just the fact. If he was a lesser offensive mind, that brother would be selling insurance right now. You understand? He would be somewhere telling you why you do the-
Starting point is 00:29:18 motorcycle insurance. Hello? He would be telling you, invest in fidelity. You never know what tomorrow holds. One minute, you're on a motorcycle with an intern. Next minute you're in a next minute. Make sure your family's protected. So that when you go out with the co-ed,
Starting point is 00:29:32 you can do so with the piece that the home is taken care of in mind. You know, that's what he would be doing. But seriously, I think Petrino is a heck of an offensive mind. Everywhere he's going, the offenses have been stellar. They've been super. He's been really good as a head coach as well. And look at Arkansas's offense last year. If you look at the games that they lost, they're allowing 50-some-odd points.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Yeah, and they were scoring like 52 and giving up 57 every week. And that's what it was, every single week. And by the way, just in case, because we know everybody here, us and says, oh, you guys are being hyperbolic and whatnot. I'm going to read you some actual scores from Arkansas Razorback football from last year, okay? These are real scores that actually happened. 4135, 3231, 3431, 45, 45, 42, 38, 35, 57.
Starting point is 00:30:30 They lost each and every one of those games. Wow. But they put up enough points to win every one of those games. They put up enough points every time, but they could not win a ball game. So, again, I think the Patrino is a heck of an offensive coordinator, but in all seriousness, he has an ego, Belichick has an ego. How's it going to work out? Who is it?
Starting point is 00:30:50 It's like how they say you can't have two silverbacks in captivity together because they're used to being the lead male in the pride or whatever they call a troop of guerrillas or whatever the case may be. The alpha. Yeah, you can't have two. You can't have two normally. So I'm intrigued to see how that's going to work out, even though Bill Belichick is a defensive mind,
Starting point is 00:31:11 Petrino is an offensive mind. I'm interested to see how that marriage works. Well, if you guys, no matter what team you support, if you saw these comments from anonymous coaches, let us know how you felt about them. Did they go too hard on your team? Were they complimentary? Let us know in the comments below.
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