Locked On ACC - Daily College Football & Basketball Podcast - SHOCK: Big Ten Asks NCAA To Stop Enforcing TAMPERING RULES—Is Chaos Coming for College Football?

Starting point is 00:00:00 The Big Ten wants the NCAA to stop enforcing tampering rules. Crazy as it sounds, I think the Big Ten has a point. You are Locked-on ACC, your daily podcast on the Atlantic Coast Conference. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team, every day. Shout out to the Everydayers, and thank you so much for making Locked-on-ACC your first listen. We're available free. Red View, get your podcast. We're free on YouTube.

Starting point is 00:00:35 We're part of the number one Locked-on podcast. network, your team every day. He is Kenton Gibbs, former NC State defensive lineman and co-host of Locked on Wolfpack. I am Alex Dono, host of Locked on Keynes on Cain's on today's episode. I know KG's Wolfpack did not win today against Virginia. Miami's going to have to play Virginia next round. Good luck. Miami did win against Louisville. So there's, you know, good and bad as far as it's concern for Kenton and I in the ACC tournament. We'll talk ACC football newcomers and which are going to the biggest impact this year. We talked about one of them from North Carolina yesterday, but Kenton, on this Big Ten

Starting point is 00:01:15 versus NCAA, and there is an update on this situation because the NCAA did tell on three sports this afternoon that regardless of what the Big Ten wants, the NCAA, in their words, does plan to keep enforcing their tampering rules. My follow-up question would be, have they ever actually enforced that? I'm not really too aware of much enforcement happening there. But in a letter addressed to NCAA President Charlie Baker, this is Perron 3 Sports, the Big Ten argued the House settlement, which ushered in the revenue sharing era in college athletics, has made current rules unworkable.

Starting point is 00:01:56 As a result, enforcement is still a challenge in the new landscape, and the conference called for an immediate pause on enforcement of NCAA bylaw. law 13.1.1.4. That rule prohibits schools from contacting athletes at another school without permission. But here's the problem the Big Ten points out. And I think they have a point here, Kenton. By prohibiting pre-portal communication, the Big Ten argued, athletes are taking risks by entering the transfer portal in the first place. It's part of issues the conference sees with the current structure in college athletics. So in summary, Kenton. And we obviously know tampering does happen. Of course. Some schools are more careful than

Starting point is 00:02:42 others. Like in some cases, you allegedly have the head coach of Ole Miss directly contacting guys in class. In other cases, contact happens through agents and intermediaries, which is a little bit more careful than in some of the other cases. But tampering absolutely happens. And I see the big tense point because does the NCAA really expect a player to enter the transfer portal without having any idea if another school is interested, that you would take that risk. Because guess what? If other schools aren't interested, you've got to go crawling back to the coach who you told I'm leaving, and your spot on that team is not even guaranteed at that point when you go crawling

Starting point is 00:03:21 back to that coach. So that's the obvious reason why tampering does happen and why it's hypocritical of the NCAA NCAA to expect it not to happen. Here's, I'm going to help the NCAA out. I'm going to give you a freebie. I gave the ACC the freebie of put games on TV every day. They took my advice. They ran with it.

Starting point is 00:03:41 They're going to dominate the weekend of Labor Day. So let me help the NCAA. Friday night belongs to us now. Exactly, exactly. You know, Full House ain't been on TV in a long time. Friday night is your night now, ACC. So now let me help out the NCAA. Here's what you do to prevent this whole argument of these players are going in,

Starting point is 00:04:01 sight unseen, and did it, da, da, d'da, da. out. You create a new position, right? You create a new position called college football or transfer portal intermediaries or something along those lines, right? And here's what their job is. It's to examine your measurables, your ranking coming out of high school, your current college tape. If there is any and your injury history, and they give you a cop based on like the who you are and those measurable in your film. They give you a player that they believe is your closest cop. They give you a player that they believe is like,

Starting point is 00:04:37 hey, this is the ceiling of what you could get, and this is the lower end of what your national perspective may be, right? It sounds like a job for Kent and Gibbs. Hey, listen, listen, okay, it's just like me saying that players need to unionize. I'm not the one that's supposed to be at the front of that. I want y'all to run with the idea. Not me. But if that happens, Dono, then you at least tell

Starting point is 00:05:00 players. Yes, you are taking the risk, but guess what? You also take a risk when you sign to a school. You take a risk of it not working out, of not being developed properly, of being recruited over. It is not, this is not the business of there being no risk in what you do. However, to properly inform these players of the risk, and you say, hey, you know, let's say a guy like Jeremiah Smith were to want to transfer. You tell them, okay, players with your tape, with your size, with your measurables, this is where they're going to. You're going to transfer. You tell them, okay, players with your they go. This is, you can write your ticket wherever. A player that, let's

Starting point is 00:05:34 say, is a much lower regarded player wants to transfer. And they were a no star out of high school and they've found a way to put good things on tape as whatever, you know, like a Victor Snow who transferred into NC State. Before he transferred in the NC State, he transferred from Nevada to Buffalo. Same

Starting point is 00:05:50 type of deal. Hey, this is what you've warranted based on your time at this place, based on what you were out of high school, based on your measurables, this is what you get. And that way, it eliminates the idea because you tell players, these are the odds of you getting a scholarship at another FBS program. And you don't have to tell coaches about it.

Starting point is 00:06:10 Nobody but your agent and the portal intermediaries have to know about this. And it stays in-house right there. And if anybody breaks that, you treat it as seriously as somebody breaking HIPAA. And you say, hey, this is what it is. This is the law. This is the regulations around this. And if anybody leaks your film and leaks your evaluation, they are no longer allowed in this position

Starting point is 00:06:32 and are subject to a very hefty fine. So ultimately, I think the NCAA has a workaround and create a position that is dedicated to telling players their prospects in the portal, which I believe should have been the case when the portal first opened up the way it is now where it was like, transfer as you, please. I knew there will be some of these young men and women

Starting point is 00:06:51 who have bad counsel around them who are saying, oh, my baby, they're Houdini Brown. They're rubbing Muhammad Ali's shoulders. You're the bad. You're the greatest ever was. But in reality, they don't got Muhammad. They just got some random fighter that they're just telling you. You're the greatest they ever was, champ.

Starting point is 00:07:07 Nobody can swing it like you. Nobody can do it like you. And all of a sudden, you got a kid that should have been happy to be at UMAS per se. You got a kid that should have been geeked up to be at FIU. And instead, he's thinking he's going to Bama. Now he's transferring to Independence Junior College. Yeah. Okay.

Starting point is 00:07:25 So here's the ACC tie-in on this, besides the obvious. that tampering happens in every conference. So, of course, there's a natural ACC tight. But the other part of it is, remember, Wisconsin has a very slow-moving active lawsuit against Miami, where they alleged tampering on Miami's part in the transfer of Xavier Lucas, which happened over a year ago. That's still at some point going through the courts. They're arguing over which venue the case should take place in. And here's what, and I'm sure Wisconsin is probably kind of upset to actually see the Big Ten, which is their conference, come out and argue that tampering penalty should not exist because Wisconsin, while suing Miami for alleging tampering, got public support over a year ago in that lawsuit by the Big Ten conference.

Starting point is 00:08:20 So you're telling me the Big Ten, when it was convenient for them, publicly supported Wisconsin's lawsuit against Miami. for tampering. But then the Big Ten is also telling you, tampering should not be enforced and it shouldn't be illegal. It shouldn't exist. Let everybody tamper. A little hypocritical, no? Exactly. Talking out of both sides of your mouth, which makes this case real easy for the NCAA. And let's be honest, again, Donno and I try our hardest to not talk politics on this show, but with the same college sports thing that was going on. And the thing was, question, Donald, how many basketball coaches were at the same college sports get together powwow? I don't know of any.

Starting point is 00:09:02 How many were there any there any? Well, I'm asking you because I didn't hear about any. You know who I did hear about saving. You know who I did hear about urban. You know who I did hear about Bavakwa. You know who I did hear about all these folks that are either football coaches or at universities where football is king by a billion miles. Tim Tebow was invited.

Starting point is 00:09:23 I think he had a scheduling conflict. Huh. Why did they invite Jaila Rose? His work with the with the Fab Five was a big deal. It was a big deal. Christian Leitner wasn't there. Why wasn't he there? What's going on?

Starting point is 00:09:36 No Tyler Ansbrough to be found. You know why? Because this is all about football, right? And the reality is if we're talking about the transfer portal and tampering and the big 10's argument for, well, we're going to sue here, we're going to agree to a lawsuit here, but we want to draw it back here. It all comes down to the fact that this is about football players getting or not getting money. And the idea behind that, this is why I say the NCAA has the surge behind them.

Starting point is 00:10:06 There seems to be a cultural shift that is supporting the NCAA against players getting paid. That's what's going on right now. It's against freedom of movement. I strongly disagree with that, but that's where we are cultural. That's where we are. The highest office in the country is considering writing an executive order and set out of his mouth, well, even if they push back on it, I'll write the executive order. Keep taking it to a court till you win.

Starting point is 00:10:35 I'm paraphrasing, but that's what he said at the same college sports bill. So the reality of this is very simple. NCAA create the position that promises to give players an open and honest, hey, this is where you are. and it gives you a best outcome. Like, hey, this is what you could be at your ceiling. This is what it could be at worst. So you give players everything that there could be

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Starting point is 00:14:13 apparently unsuccessfully to, you know, stop trying to enforce their tampering rules. A lot of people out there feel, and I think I agree with this, that this could be something that the Big Ten and the SEC, they can create more positions like this to kind of use the threat of breaking away from the NCAA. That, hey, if you don't want to enforce the sport the way we want you to enforce it, why do we need you? We'll govern ourselves. I think that this could be part of that. But Donald, that then puts the NCAA in a unwinnable position, right? This is Connect 4 and they've got all the corners mapped out on you. Wherever you go, you're going to be wrong here.

Starting point is 00:14:56 Because let's say that the NCAA does bend the knee and they say, you know what, we will no longer enforce tampering. If the problem and idea is that, oh, the NCAA should not be enforcing things the way we don't want to enforce it, you're forced to say yes, which then gives them what they want in that, hey, I'm enforcing it exactly the way you enforce it. But then let's go to the opposite. you don't give them what they want. And they say, well, this is the reason why we're moving one step closer to breaking up here. It's a catch-22 where you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't if you're the NCAA. And far be it for me to say I feel bad for the NCAA because I don't. For too long, they bought this on themselves by being far too greedy for far too long.

Starting point is 00:15:39 But the reality of this situation is if you're going to go down, the question is which way do you want to go down? Do you want to go down with a limper or do you want to go down fighting? You can go down fighting and saying, hey, we've lost a lot in court, but that's why I say it's important to know where you are as a culture right now, where people are feeling about you as a unit right now. Because that you go back to when the Supreme Court cases were filed that created the NIL and all those things, it was very much so a culture of, hey, these athletes deserve something.

Starting point is 00:16:14 And now all of a sudden you got, what is it, Carson Beck getting his Lambo stolen or his Uris or whatever it is stolen. And he just goes and gets another one like it's nothing. Now all of a sudden people are, whoa, whoa, what the hell is going on with these players getting paid? So ultimately, this is, you know, Donald, you're right in that this is a moment that the Big Ten and SEC may say, well, we don't need the NCAA anymore. But if you give them what they want, now they're saying, oh, the NCAA don't really. exist. Like, they exist, but not really. That's the old catch 22. It's the rock and the hard place. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. All right. So moving on, we talked a little bit about this

Starting point is 00:16:55 yesterday, but I wanted to get into a few others here. ESPN put out an ACC football story, most important newcomer for every ACC football team. And I was very interested in who they went with for Clemson, because you know, Clemson does not take a lot of transfers. That's been very established. So I thought, hey, maybe for Clemson, it's an incoming true freshman, as it is for a couple of the 17 teams on the list. But they actually go with, and I think this makes sense, running back Chris Johnson Jr., who just transferred in from SMU. I covered him at Miami, good, good guy, really good family. So this is definitely somebody that I root for on an individual level, Chris Johnson. And it makes sense, Kenton, because Clemson, these last couple of years,

Starting point is 00:17:43 has really been missing a dynamic running game, right? That aspect has not been there for them. And in the case of Johnson, you know, one of the reasons why it didn't work out for him at Miami was, I don't think he was making enough gains in strength and conditioning. You know, Mario Cristobal likes his backs to be, you know, 225 pounds. Johnson, nowhere near that. It sounds like he's been putting on some size finally the last couple of years.

Starting point is 00:18:09 And DaBow even said that that early on in his career, he didn't think Chris took the strength and conditioning seriously enough. It seems like he's gotten to that point now. And so, yeah, I think that's a big question we'd like to see answered. Can Chris Johnson Jr. create a dynamic rushing attack for Clemson? Absolutely, that's an important question because when's the last time Clemson had a truly dynamic back? When's the last time Clemson had that guy? Shipley.

Starting point is 00:18:35 Oh, Shipley pre-injury, right? And that was a little bit of go. But now, let's go back even further because I believe. that Gideon is supposed to be their guy. They're like, hey, you're going to be, I believe it's Gideon Davis is supposed to be their guys. That's like, hey, you're going to be a superstar. You were a five star.

Starting point is 00:18:52 You were all these things coming out of high school. If you think back to when Clemson started dominating, how did they do it? One two punch out the back of you. Spiller Davis. That's what got them there to begin with. So now I'm expecting Dabell to say, hey, we tried the air raid thing.

Starting point is 00:19:10 We tried to mix it up. We tried to get creative and get jiggied with all of the other terminology. But he specifically said in his press conference, it was like speaking in another language, even poured out a little Spanish home. Right. So, you know, and we as Americans, we only know one Spanish sentence. My surveys I'm por favor. But I know a few being from Miami.

Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah, Miami. It's different. I know more Spanish than English. You know more Spanish than Italian. Okay. you know that that means something Donald in Italy every other day you know he talks about

Starting point is 00:19:47 having Chad Morris back and having that system back and it very much so is dependent on the foundation of it is having a run game that has to be respected and so ultimately if you're looking at a quarterback room where Vizina's probably going to be your guy when you think about Vizina as a quarterback do you think of him as a dynamic rushing threat

Starting point is 00:20:06 no so what do you need to supplement that multiple guys in the backfield that get it done. So it makes sense that Chris Johnson. Yeah. Exactly. It makes sense that Chris Johnson Jr. is their key newcomer because he's going to be the most experienced guy.

Starting point is 00:20:20 Most touches coming in. Most of everything coming in. And he's finally starting to take every part of being great series. All right. So for Miami, obviously, Darien Mensa, you know, I think we've already broken down all the reasons why that one is impactful. It's not a put for Barcate? What?

Starting point is 00:20:39 You know what? Barcate or Damon Wilson, there's some dudes coming into Miami. Do you agree or disagree with who they went with for NC State, by the way? They went with outside linebacker, edge rusher, Harvey Dyson from Tulane. Like is that your guy? Do you co-sign with that or do you think they got it wrong? I co-signed it by a mile because when you look at NC State and who they bought in, they bought in a lot of really good skill position guys offensive.

Starting point is 00:21:06 Here's the thing. Last year was skill position offensively a problem for NC State? say never when you did not have Sloan or harsh in the game where was your edge rushing coming from who was the guy don't worry I'll wait I watched those games I went to those games in person and I saw if harsh and Sloan are off the field quarterbacks if the defensive tackles weren't getting pressure quarterbacks were going to have a good time back there they can make a sandwich do their taxes, go ahead and order some sweat block, eat a built bar, and then throw the ball. Like, that's how much time they have back there.

Starting point is 00:21:45 So ultimately, I think that Dyson is going to be a dude. He's going to be a dude. I loved him at Tulane. I think he's going to be fantastic at NC State. And, you know, I wish we had more of them. I wish we could clone him and get a few more of those. But, yeah, I think he'll be a hell of an impact player for that. By the way, on a side note on NC State, I just saw this story today, which is a really

Starting point is 00:22:07 cool for you guys. You know, obviously everyone knows you're opening up your season in Brazil against Virginia, but I did not know until today that NC State is going to make two plus million dollars for playing that game. Now that I heard that, I'm trying to figure

Starting point is 00:22:25 out where I can send Miami to play a game next year to pop pocket a couple extra mill. Is that, are you guys, is that your home game that you're losing for that or it doesn't even count for a home game? How does that work? It's an away game, Princey State.

Starting point is 00:22:38 It's an away game. You get $2 million for an away game? Yeah. Yeah. It's life over here sure is sweet. It sure is sweet. No, but seriously, it is a good time. And that'll be a heck of a game, man.

Starting point is 00:22:52 Because, you know, last year, that was a game that was decided on a last second interception by one of those edge rushes that I was talking about in Kean Sloan there. So, you know, this is a heck of a game. in general. You know, who could have predicted that Virginia would go on to have the season that they had after that ACC, non-ACC, game last year? And now we're going forward and we're looking at an extremely lucrative opportunity out of the country,

Starting point is 00:23:21 obviously big for exposure, big for those young men, being exposed to different parts of the world, getting traveling and all that type of stuff. It's going to be a great time. Yeah, it should be. All right, coming up next, let's talk some hoops. Jim Beheim weighed in on why Syracuse. fired now former basketball coach, Adrian Autry. And Beheim, he made an interesting choice to throw Syracuse's players under the bus

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Starting point is 00:26:38 I talk all things Miami on locked on canes. You know, Kenton, they say it's hard to beat a team twice, especially twice within four days. Miami got some payback today against Louisville in what was an awesome game. Miami almost made a nine-point lead, disappeared to nothing late, but they were able to clinch it at the free throw line with a couple of big steals. Oh, so they almost pulled an NC State is what you're saying.

Starting point is 00:27:03 They almost pulled an NC State, But the Cains were able to hold on for a 78 to 73 victory. Malik Renew turned it on in the postseason, 24.6 rebounds and three steals in the game. Ernest Uday had a bunch of blocks in the game as well. I think he had how many blocks, three blocks in the game. Not as many blocks as though. What's the big fellow from Virginia? On Senyu, who had like eight blocks, eight blocks?

Starting point is 00:27:30 I mean, that dude, seven foot tall with a seven-five wing span. good luck driving you to the pain against that guy you know Virginia just you know how I was talking about teams can't just go to the CC Malanoa factory and say oh let me get another one well Virginia has a seven foot or factory somewhere they've had it for years and I need to go find out where it is because you know credit to UVN credit to old we talk about all these first year teams and how exciting how good Jay Lucas is there because Oldham is at you UVA, he's flown under the radar of it because UVA is their usual suspect in being good in college basketball. But what Odom has done with that team in a year needs to be talked about. And this isn't just about beating NC State. They beat everybody except Duke. They beat everybody.

Starting point is 00:28:22 You know, this is a team that continues to get better and better as the year goes on. And I'm going to tell you, that is a team that I expect to be out no earlier than the Sweet 16 in terms of, the NCAA tournament because they have so much length. They make it so hard on you at the rim. You know, when you think about they're big that had eight blocks to date, he was a virtual non-factor against NC State the last two times. Yeah, that's right. They've got a, you know, the same way that a lot of people believe

Starting point is 00:28:55 that a lot of those Central American countries have a baddie factory where you just look up every time and there's some new Instagram model from one of those countries that date some famous football or basketball, basketball player. UBA does the same thing just with seven footers with elite time. You know, so credit to UVA, heck of a game, heck of the team. NC State played their hearts out. You cannot doubt their effort. You cannot doubt the way that they showed up.

Starting point is 00:29:17 You cannot doubt their shooting. It was better than it ever had been against UVA this year. But I'm going to tell you something. It's a great game. It was a great game. And UVA just has length four days. Yeah, that Anseigneo, he had eight blocks today, which was the, His second most, I heard this on the broadcast, second most in ACC tournament history in a single game.

Starting point is 00:29:40 His stat line was eight points, six rebounds, eight blocks. He had more. It's a seven footer. He had more blocks than rebounds today. He was going wild. Really good physical game. Miami versus Louisville was really physical. There are probably going to be some bumps and bruises coming out of that one.

Starting point is 00:29:57 And so, you know, Miami has the misfortune of having to go up against UVA in the semifinals tomorrow. And then whoever wins that game has to go up against probably Duke in the finals, which is going to be no cakewalk for anybody. Meanwhile, Kenton, Syracuse fired their head basketball coach yesterday. I don't think Jackson Holzer was too surprised or too upset about Adrian Autry getting let go. But someone who doesn't seem so happy about it is Jim Beheim, former legendary Syracuse coach. And he made the interesting choice, Beheim, and he said it not once but twice, said it in two different interviews with ESPN, and then he doubled down on it with Q's Talk Live, I think was the name of it, QSports Talk was the name of it. He said of Autry, I think he's a good coach.

Starting point is 00:30:49 I think he got at a situation where his best players just didn't play the way they needed to play, and it cost him his job. He also said on QS Sports Talk that he's. was let down by his star players. And then Beheim, as, you know, older former coaches often do, also blamed NIL, saying that, hey, you know, Syracuse isn't spending as much as these other programs, the top four seeds in the ACC are the ones that are the top four in spending. So I don't know, man, I just, I always can't, I think it's an interesting choice and an unfortunate choice. And maybe it's easier for a former coach to say this than a current coach. When you start blaming players on coaches getting fired.

Starting point is 00:31:34 I don't know. I just think it's a bad look, bad optics all the way around. Can I ask you some questions, Donald? Because we need to figure this out together. Okay, let's work our way through this as a unit. Okay. What year was Coach Autry on?

Starting point is 00:31:49 What is it? Is it third, fourth? Or was it? He was on his third year at Syracuse's head coach this year. Okay. Yeah. Let's pretend like we're going into the way back machine and the transfer portal doesn't exist anymore. Let's say that he recruited from that his first year, right? Those guys were freshmen, okay, and they grew up in the program and had a couple years.

Starting point is 00:32:17 What year would those guys be? What, third year? Juniors, correct. Third year guys. Third junior, red shirt, sophomore, however you want to cut it, gray shirt, now they got all these different shirts, you know, whatever. medical red shirt, regular red shirt. Exactly, exactly. So they'd be third year guys, right?

Starting point is 00:32:35 Yeah. If he was responsible for recruiting those guys and those guys let him down, wouldn't that mean that he was responsible for creating his own problems? Thank you. It's a paradox, right? It's the snake eating its own tail. You know, he's the one not only recruiting them, but also coaching them. Hello?

Starting point is 00:32:59 I give Will Wade all of the love and all of the flowers every time NC State does another thing. It's first time since 19 such and so that they've done this. First time since 2000 such and so since they've done this. I give him all the flowers when that happens. But you know what I also do? During this losing street that NC State just was limping into every game and getting the wheels whooped off him by everybody except UNC,

Starting point is 00:33:22 I also gave him lashes because what's good for the gander has to be good for the goose. And this is Will Wade's year one. Some of these guys on this team, objectively speaking, not his guy. Not his guy, right? But the reality is, the guys that are here,

Starting point is 00:33:41 there's only one carryover from last year's team, so this is you. Autry is in year three. At what point does it become, hey, the head coach didn't recruit the guys needed to win. And because he couldn't recruit the guys needed to win, he did the best of what he got, but the best he got wasn't good.

Starting point is 00:33:57 No. And that's on him. I think we got to that point this year, like you said. And that's what I'm saying. We got to it. The administration got to it. But Beehre and all these old coaches, oh, it's the NIA. Oh, it's these kids making money now. Oh, what happened to the love of the game? Hey, shut it, old man.

Starting point is 00:34:16 You and that two three zone can shove it. You're old. You're washed. You're on TV for a reason. And that's okay. The world is different now. The top four spenders are the top four seeds. Well, you know what that sounds like to me to the rest of the teams?

Starting point is 00:34:33 It's a saying where I come from in Detroit. Get your money up, not your funny up. You're here to win ball games, not make people laugh and smile. That's what me and Donna are here for. We're going to make people laugh and smile. But you, the head coach, get them boosters to give you the money to get in that top four spender. If it's just, oh, more dollars in, more wins out,

Starting point is 00:34:52 well, looks like you need some more dollars up in center. Amen to that. All right, so we still have, you know, at the time we're recording this, the next game will be Florida State against Duke in the quarter final round. Duke is favored by 16 and a half points. 930 tonight. You will have Clemson against number 19 North Carolina. Clemson is actually favored by a point in a half in that one. If Clemson wins, they could spoil possible Duke versus UNC tomorrow. We know how fun those always are. So yeah, so we'll see who advances to the other semifinal. One of those is already set, Miami against number 10 UVA, and then it's going to be Duke or Florida State versus UNC or Clemson and the other semifinal spot tomorrow. Thank you so much to the Everydayers for making Lockdown ACC your first list.

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