Locked On ACC - Daily College Football & Basketball Podcast - Texas' Setback: How the SEC Lost the CFP Championship Bid

Starting point is 00:00:00 The SEC has zero teams in the national championship game. What happened to that narrative? You are Locked-on ACC, your daily podcast on the Atlantic Coast Conference. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. The big SEC lobby is not going to like Kenton and I today. Thank you so much for making Locked-on ACC your first listen and your first watch today. We're available free wherever you get your podcast. We're free on YouTube.

Starting point is 00:00:35 We're part of the Lockedon Podcast Network, your team every day. Today's episode is brought to you by GameTime. Download the GameTime app, create an account and use code, Locked on College for $20 off your first purchase. I am Alex Dono from Locked on Keynes. He is Kenton Gibbs from Locked on Wolfpack. On this loaded episode, we will talk about the way too early Heisman trophy odds. Because you know, I've got an eye for degeneracy.

Starting point is 00:01:00 And if there are odds available, you know Donno's going to find them. so we can already place our bets for next year's Heisman Trophy. Miami has hired their defensive coordinator. So I'm actually really surprised that they got that done before a lot of other programs, including Clemson because Mario Cristobald doesn't usually make hires quickly. And let's talk some college football playoff, Kent. And I know, I know the ACC hasn't had a team in since the opening round of 12. But we have the same number of teams playing for the championship on January 20th as the SEC

Starting point is 00:01:33 has Kenton. So I know Kirk Herb Street, who claims he doesn't even go on X, he claims his son runs his social media accounts now. He better run and hide now that this has happened. First of all, a lot of care who tell it. Second of all, we do have a team in there. I'm sorry. I don't care what nobody's saying. I count no today. I count them. If you's got to show up for every single media day except one, you know, like for all intents and purposes, you are one of us. But with that in mind, you know, it's not a surprise that this 12-team playoff produces more teams for a few reasons. Number one, everybody said, oh, it's just going to be the same thing as Division II. And, you know, in Division II, it's North Dakota State almost every single year.

Starting point is 00:02:19 North Dakota State is not the same. The gap between them and all of the D2 schools is immensely different than any one school at the FBS level. Like that's just, I'm sorry, FCS, not Divisets to a POTUS. The difference between them and every other FCS school, very different than the difference between whoever you feel like is the best FBS and the next best team. Now, moving forward from there, you know what happened to the narrative, Donnell? They had to hop out a hypothetical land. And you know, they say that you've got to stay away from two things before a big game. Women and hypotheticals, because both of them will take your legs from, you know.

Starting point is 00:02:58 if you're not paying attention, both of them, you'll be worn out before the game. And so, again, we must both sympathize and empathize with the SEC teams because if they did not have to play a million hypotheticals, you know, I saw somebody that was a Georgia fan tweeting about, oh, my God, this looks like a JV game between Pitt and, I'm sorry, Penn State and Notre Dame. And all I could think was, well, damn, if you get beat by JV, what are you? The freshman team? In DPS, we didn't even have freshman teams. It was either JV, varsity, and your ass wasn't planned. That's neither here nor there. What happened to having SEC teams in championship is you took them out, you know.

Starting point is 00:03:43 And I find it interesting that so many people quote the, of the last 20 years, we have X amount of national championships. Well, I'm sorry to tell you, Cam Newton, they worked through that door, nor is Tim Tebow, nor is any other saving coach quarterback. But also, there were years. Remember when LSU and Alabama played the game of the century? And it was nine six? I do. And what was it? Yeah, nine six. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:04:04 And then they got a rematch in the national championship. Of course there's going to be a damn SEC national champion. And last thing before I pass back to you, like I always say, ain't it interesting that not that everybody else can pay their players? All of a sudden, the field looks a lot more even. And the words of Haley Williams of Paramour, Ain't it fun, ain't it fun, ain't it fun, you're one of us, because you're just paying everybody else, just like every other team. What a time to be alive.

Starting point is 00:04:33 Well, you're passing it back to me. I'm going to pass it to an all-time bad take. I sent this to Kenton from social media. Let me bring this up for the people who see this. On social media, I can never tell these days who's being sincere and who's trolling, but it seems like this dude, John Ziegler, is being sincere when he set out on his ex account. Congratulations, everyone who wanted this 12-team playoff. You somehow managed to make the two biggest upset losses of the regular season completely

Starting point is 00:05:05 meaningless and probably helpful to the teams which got beat. He's talking about, you know, Ohio State losing to Michigan and, of course, Notre Dame losing to NIU. And he says, oh, and neither finalist even played a conference title game. So it's like, we found the one guy who thinks that the drama of, you know, two teams getting to the championship game who wouldn't have been in a four-team playoff. For most people that would say, this is why you needed to expand the playoff because now you've got two teams that wouldn't have been in a four-team are going to play for a championship. Normal human beings would say this is really awesome.

Starting point is 00:05:41 See, you expanded the playoff and you don't just go chalk, you've got team. But we found the one guy who thinks that because two teams who wouldn't have been in the 14 playoff are playing the championship. Kenton, this has apparently ruined the college football playoff. Again, when you don't let the narratives cook and you got to play a game on a real field, strange things happen sometimes. Strange things happen. You know, people talk about the upset Michigan, Ohio State.

Starting point is 00:06:08 That was a situation where Michigan was quite literally designed to beat Ohio State. Ohio State's offensive line is excellent, not excellent enough to handle two first rounders in the middle. that's just what you get there. You know, the NIU and Notre Dame game. Hey, it happens. Counting on 18 and 22 year olds to get it right every time. Unrealistic expectation. But guess what?

Starting point is 00:06:34 When you lined it up, when Notre Dame had to play Indiana, when Notre Dame had to play Georgia, which, by the way, you can say what you want about that Indiana game. But Georgia is the SEC conference chef, right? Right. they're the team that won the conference championship and edge. I was told, I was told, based on the Indiana Notre Dame game,

Starting point is 00:06:59 Georgia was going to win by 30. That's what I was told. Why even play the game? Hypothetical, they win every time. I was told that the dogs was going to run our beloved Notre Dame fighting hours. And yes, they're our, because when we talk about basketball, who's turning to do they play in?

Starting point is 00:07:16 Who's turning to do they play in, Donald? So who's that? I'm sorry to say, but when you taught, when you use the word like hour with Notre Dame, Alex Dono has left the chat. It's like I can't. I have so much historical hatred for that program. Like I, I hate them so much. I'm probably rooting for Ohio State in the championship game because even though I wish he'd gone to Miami, I'm a big fan of Jeremiah Smith, Shamanad High School. I supported in high school. I'm probably rude. I can't. I can't. even say these words out loud, but I'm, I'm probably rooting for that team from Columbus. Let me tell you something. As a Detroit, you couldn't pay me enough to rule for Ohio State. Okay, until Ohio gives that land back. You know what you did. Andrew Jackson's been dead for a while. Give the land back. Nobody likes Toledo anyways, what y'all always say, give it back. But with that in mind, yeah, no, I understand your hatred. You know, I get it. I get the Catholics versus convicts thing. I dealt with it myself in terms of cash tech and Detroit Catholic, etc.

Starting point is 00:08:17 where they called us the convicts and then the Catholics. I get it. I understand the history behind it. But Donald, you got to soften your heart because, again, when we go to ACC media tip off the basketball, who's there? When we go to the ACC tournament of a basketball, women's basketball, especially this year with Hidalgo and Coach Ivy are cooking up over there, who's going to beat it, you know?

Starting point is 00:08:38 So we got to let know the day, man. We got to accept them, you know. And at the end of the day, I'll tell you this. I am excited about that game. I think it's going to be a hell of a game. Because, again, this is another one of those where this matchup is better for the Irish to people think. I completely agree. And I want to, when we come back, I still want to talk about the road that got us to these final two teams because Steve Sarkisian, for the past 48 hours, has been getting roasted left and right.

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Starting point is 00:10:32 So it's been certainly a busy couple of days for me, Kenton, with Miami landing Carson Beck in the transfer portal. We'll talk about where he and other ACC players sit in the way too early Heismid trophy odds a little bit. Miami just hired a defensive coordinator. Before we get to that, KG, so Texas is within striking range to tie up the football game at 21 points under four minutes to go. They're at the one yard line, second and one.

Starting point is 00:11:00 They call a toss sweep and lose seven yards on the play and it comes down to eight. They end up turning it over for a score, which was huge, the turning point of that football game. And Steve Sarkees at Sark is getting absolutely blasted. You played defensive line in North Carolina State. What were your thoughts on Steve Sarkesian's play call there? You know, they've got a back over there in Jaden Blue that normally when rosters talk about weights, they greatly oversell it for skill position guys.

Starting point is 00:11:35 They normally are like. Jaden Blue is about two Boatberry biscuits away from 215 looks like. That's a big guy. That's a big back there, 6.3, 215. Why the hell would you not say, let me give it at least one crack? Let me give it one shot. And if they stop us, they stop us. Low risk, but the reward is still pretty high,

Starting point is 00:11:58 given the fact that you're on the one. It was a first and goal on the one. Two back-to-back pass interference calls put you on the one. At that point in time, okay, we can't do too much more passing. We've run out of real estate. We got to put on our big boy britches, and we got to say, go get me a little. Go get me a year.

Starting point is 00:12:19 If I'm sorry, I'm calling everybody in. I'll call the timeout, and I'm looking at all of my guys, and I'm saying, ain't this is what we live for? Ain't this is it? This is longhorn football. This is what it's about. We're going to go get us a yard the old-fashioned way, a lairle-a-earle-a-erle-campbell, a lairky William, a la Cedriced Benz. We're going to get us one yard right here on behind our best back. Several downs left to get one yard.

Starting point is 00:12:48 If the songs, you don't move back seven yards, you got several. Several. But you know what you shouldn't do? Ohio State has two players that were ranked as five stars on the edge. Two, that Jack Sawyer kid, one of the highest rated out of his class. That JT kid, another one of them. Best JT says the one from the city girls. And yet, you know, best day team for Justin Timberlake, for those of us who are less coached.

Starting point is 00:13:12 But you get the point. You know, he's a hell of an edge rusher himself. And your call. And Caleb Downs was the one who blew up that play, too. I mean, he read it like a first grade reader. But even more important than that, Donald, you look at this Ohio State defense and has anybody ever thought, they can't run? I'm going to outflank them.

Starting point is 00:13:33 Yeah. What? Listen, Sark, I'm glad that you have had the role back from some of the struggles you had earlier in your career. But play calling like that is going to make people think you're on the bottom. Okay. Yeah. And I'm saying that very seriously because that was as moronic of a call as you can go with.

Starting point is 00:13:57 On an early down in that situation, if you just run the football up the middle, even if it doesn't work, people can at least say, I understand the rationale. I see where you were getting at there. I get it. I get it. Don't we all. If you were to do a push push and it doesn't work out, oh, well, you know, hey, we have. four chances to get three feet, you know. And if we couldn't do that in four chances, I need some better players. I need something different. If we can't get one yard and four chances

Starting point is 00:14:30 that way, but to see that you sit here and try to run a sweep in that situation and lose, what, seven, six or seven, you deserve what you got there, man, because that was just foolishness. To me, it's overreliance on analytics and outsmarting yourself is what Sark did, because like the analytics would say it's very difficult to run into the teeth of the Ohio State defense. So Sark thought they'll never expect me to do something this stupid. I think that's what happened there. I thought he overthought. And also with Sark, we talked about this.

Starting point is 00:15:04 You and I were both on the post game back when Texas beat Clemson. And, you know, obviously Texas won that game. But there have always been these complaints about how unintuitive his play calling it. It's just it doesn't really read the situation all that well. this was probably the best example of that. Yeah, and the craziest part about it is his play calling up to this point was damn good. You get into multiple situations where you're isolating your receivers and they're winning their matchups. And even if they didn't, even if you don't get that second pass and a offense that puts you at first and goal at the one, you were still at, what, the two?

Starting point is 00:15:44 Because of a passion interference in the end zone where was there safety up against one of your better receivers? that's a great job. That's the matchup you want. You have done something right. Why would you go away from that? Why would you say, I'm going to run the ball, but like you said, Donald, not to the teeth of the defense. If anything, what I would do is I would say, hey, listen,

Starting point is 00:16:08 we're going to go, this first down, we're going to run it up the middle. We're going to see what we can do there, okay, whatever we can get. But we're going to get under center and try it. We're going to see what we can do. new. Second play, I would do something like one of those low, hey, we're trying to figure out the play call. Whoopty, woo, woo, woo, you go up there and we're going to see what we can get

Starting point is 00:16:28 done in terms of a QB sneak. Okay. My third play call, if neither one of those work, okay, maybe we got to put the ball back in there. But one thing that I'm not doing, put the ball back in there for the last two-downs. But one thing that I know I'm not doing or give point you as a two-way goal on the outside to where, hey, we've got something to the flash where you can either get rid of it quickly or if they got to shut off, hold it, and run. But one thing I'm not going to do, one thing I'm not going to do is that pitch in that moment. That's just fools. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:16:59 Well, moving on back to the ACC, the Miami Hurricanes have filled their defensive coordinator vacancy. You know, the Hurricanes had the 69th ranked total defense last year. And I bring that up because, ironically enough, the man that they hired Corey Heatherman, who was the D.C. and Minnesota this past season, linebackers coach at Rutgers. Prior to that, has had some D.C. jobs in smaller schools prior. Corey Heatherman, last year, took over the 69th rated Golden Gophers defense. Same situation he's walking into now. And Minnesota in 2024 were ranked ninth nationally in points allowed at 16.9 per game.

Starting point is 00:17:40 Fifth, in total defense, that's yards allowed at 285.7 yards per game. 12th in rushing defense, and they tied for ninth in passing defense, 22 interceptions last year, which was tied for seventh nationally, and a plus nine turnover margin, which was tied for 17th. And my understanding is Mario Cristobal and his evaluations of Corey Heatherman sees a guy whose defenses are always well prepared, and they don't miss their assignments. So Miami's defense, and we can all debate how much of that was on the personnel

Starting point is 00:18:11 versus on former defensive coordinator Lance Guidry. But Miami's defense was pretty rough in conference play this last year, Kenton. And this hire Corey Heatherman is someone who I'm sure Mario Cristobal got a recommendation for him from Greg Shiano at Rutgers because Christobal and Heatherman both come from the Shiano coaching tree. And, you know, Miami is going to have to spend on the buyout for Heatherman about $600,000 because he just signed an extension. But they only have to pay a 25% buyout. So my understanding, Kenton, is that Shiano was actually interested in bringing Heatherman back to Rutgers as defensive coordinator. But there's a clause in Heatherman's contract with Minnesota that said if he goes to another Big Ten school, it's 100% buyout, which would have been $2.4 million. So that's just, you know, it's not cost feasible for a D.C.

Starting point is 00:19:03 Miami was able to get him for 25% of the buyout. And I just hope. And Miami's been adding talent, the transfer portal to bolster that defense. I hope that the coaching can make that much of a difference for the hurricane's sake because a lot of times they were playing the social distancing defense this year. Social distancing defense is crazy, first of all. That's an insane take there. But more importantly, Donnell was absolutely the coaching and not the personnel.

Starting point is 00:19:30 And let me tell you how I know that. It's personnel when you see one or two guys getting it wrong on a consistent basis. When it looks like the entire defense is lagging behind, when you see persistent problems throughout the entire defense, you can't convince me, hey, everybody has this exact same problem. You can't convince me, hey, all of our safeties do not know how to properly, you know, yo, yo back and forth in terms of a, in terms of handling motion across the formation.

Starting point is 00:20:00 You can't tell me. You can't tell me, you know, nobody was prepared. And granted, Miami Secondary was a bit young last year, but you still can't tell me. Not a single one of those guys was able to properly pick up on what you were putting down in terms of, hey, these are the adjustments, these are the motions and the formations

Starting point is 00:20:18 that you will most likely see. This is what we need to be prepared for. When we see this, we will already know this is where you need to be aligned. This is what you are assigned to do. Go handle. There were many too many moments where Miami looked flatly, you know, misaligned

Starting point is 00:20:36 because guys were the, slightest bit of motion just sent that entire team into a frizzy into a tizzy and you can say you can speak to this firsthand now it was one of the more embarrassing things i'd seen and lord no we don't even want to get into the tackle we don't even want to get into the i mean you know maybe maybe all of them believed it was too hand touch or something because when they came to wrapping up and taking guys to the ground it just seemed like the world's toughest deal for them so all and all when i look at this situation I say to myself, Gidri may be good, he may be talented. He may learn from this, grow from this, become better going forward.

Starting point is 00:21:12 But I have no doubt that that was more on the coaching than the personnel. Yeah, no, I feel that way as well. There was just no adaptation whatsoever. When we come back, let's talk about the way too early Heisman trophy odds for next year. The favorite may surprise you. We'll find out who's in the mix from the ACC and those way too early Heisman Trophy odds. you want to keep it locked right here.

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Starting point is 00:23:25 Make sure you check out Locked on college football like this show. It's available free wherever you get your podcast and available free on YouTube. All right. So Kent, I think I may have already spoiled this for you in our little pre-show chat. but so I'll reveal I won't quiz you on this, but I will reveal it because I'm looking at the Heisman trophy odds for next year. And Arch Manning leads the field with plus 500 odds.

Starting point is 00:23:54 He is presumably taking over the starting job at Texas. They're going to tell Quinn Ewers, you don't have to go to the NFL, but you can't stay here. You're getting off this roster. We're not going to have Arch, you know, is our backup for three straight seasons. So Arch Manning is already getting that preseason Heisman hype at plus 500. Are you surprised by the three-way tie for second place

Starting point is 00:24:16 because you got Florida's DJ Lagway tied with Oklahoma's John Mateer and now Miami's Carson Beck at plus 900 odds in a three-way tie for second? I think you're muted. The big SEC lobby. The big SEC lobby came from me again. But I would say, no, Not too much. The only thing that surprises me most night, I hate to say this, Dono, I hate to do it. Carson Beck being up there, a little surprising. A little surprising.

Starting point is 00:24:49 You see what happened with Cam Ward. Cam Ward came in, Heisman finalist. And here's the deal. Here's the deal. If somebody were to tell me Fletcher was a husband finalist, I believe it. I think he's that good. I really do. I think the world of that kid, and I'm like, hey, that offensive line that y'all have built over there, I'm not. With crystal ball style of football, I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be. Beck hasn't really shown me the ability to be a Heisman finalist type of guy. And by Heisman finalists, I mean, there are Heisman finalists that are not Heisman finalist type of guys.

Starting point is 00:25:22 They're just a quarterback on the best team. And that's a very different thing. Dylan Gabriel. Exactly. Exactly. Dylan Gabriel was like, what are you doing here? What are you there? One of these things is not like the other.

Starting point is 00:25:35 You don't belong here. But if you're not looking at Miami and saying, hey, this is a team whose floor is 10 wins. I don't think Carson Beck is the type of player that is going to end up in New York based on that information and who he is. Now, who I do look at and say, who I do look at and say they belong there. DJ Lagway had Florida absolutely humming. I know that you didn't want to hear that either, Dono. Sorry to all the Florida State and Miami fans listening right now, but he had them rolling. at the end of the season, getting multiple ranked wins as well.

Starting point is 00:26:10 So that one makes a lot more sense. And who was the third person in that time? John Mateer, who's now at Oklahoma, former Wazoo quarterback. Donnell, I need to get in under degeneracy. Tell me, how do I bet against something? How do I place a bet against the thing? Because that is a bet that I would put my mortgage on the fact that not only does he not win it. He doesn't go to New York.

Starting point is 00:26:34 He's not up for any post. season awards outside of Norman Oklahoma. Yeah. I mean, I just said there's not enough around him. And it's not like I think if Mathier was in certain different situations, but I mean, yeah, that offense,

Starting point is 00:26:51 regardless of who's playing. I mean, they made Jackson Arnold look so bad. It's a former five-star recruit. They made him look awful. Is that, how much of that was on him? We'll find out this year. Let me tell you something. If you put Jeff Gordon behind the wheel of a Honda cord and told him go race to Indy 500,

Starting point is 00:27:06 he's still driving a Honda, of course. You know? That's just, Mater is a wonderful quarterback. If he was in a different situation, if he decided to be like Michigan's Bridge quarterback or something, I would have a very different outlook on his hiding out. Going to Oklahoma, brother, you just put a Lambo in the middle of the projects.

Starting point is 00:27:29 That's, you know, it may not work out well for you, but best of luck. Let's take a look at a few more in these early Hizman odds. he can find a couple more ACC players in here. So after, after lagway, Mateer and Beck in that three-way tie for second, you've got, I guess Kenton will claim him, Jeremiah Love at, uh, at plus 1100, Garrett Nussmeyer at plus 1,200,

Starting point is 00:27:52 Jeremiah Smith at plus 1,200. I feel like there's a little, I'm just such a big Jeremiah Smith fan, although I will say it was pretty, they held him to one catch for three yards. The Longhorns did. So maybe, maybe I overhyped the young man just a little bit,

Starting point is 00:28:03 but he had an awesome year. Nico I. Malayava at plus 1,400 odds. How about Drew Aller at plus 1,600 odds, the Penn State quarterback? Let me get a third mortgage. Let me get a second and third mortgage. I got another bet I need to place. I got another slip, not top eight in the final.

Starting point is 00:28:22 That man stinks. I don't know what everybody see. Donno, I feel like I'm in a bizarre world. I really do. Because when I watched the film, one of them, everybody was screaming. Oh, Riley Leonard's the worst quarterback left in the CFP. oh, Will Howard's the worst quarterback. I said, what am I missing?

Starting point is 00:28:40 What am I? This Drew kid, he doesn't have the goods in any game of any consequence. He looks like the moment is too big. The lights are too bright every time. And yet we're going to sit here again and pretend like he's a thing. Donald, you got to help me out. I'm itching to make some money off that. And time back.

Starting point is 00:29:00 We could probably, I don't know if we could like build like a parlay of like the players we don't think are going to win the Heisman, and then we just put our mortgages into that barlay on play. We'll not win or will not go to the finals. Let me tell you something. Me and you would be living like kings. We'd be living next to Tom Brady down in Florida, messing around betting against these guys.

Starting point is 00:29:21 Because I'm telling you, I feel very comfortable that Mathier and Aller will be nowhere near New York at the end of the year, unless they're, you know, just deciding to go up there to support one of their old friends. So then you got to, You got a couple more ACC quarterbacks who are both at plus

Starting point is 00:29:37 1,800. So maybe there's some value there. Cade Clubnick and Kate Clubbick, of course, of Clemson and Kevin Jennings of SMU. So you think maybe they might be undervalued a little bit, plus 18. So if you bet $100, you would win $1,800 if either of them win the Heisman.

Starting point is 00:29:54 I like the value on both of those. I like the value on both. I really think with the weapons Clemson has coming back and the step forward that Kaye Kleblinick took it end of the year. Even in the big moments, he made the right decisions. Was he perfect? No, but he was damn good in big moments when it mattered most. Clemson fans, he's won me over. Y'all can stop calling me everything by the child of God in the comments now. He's won me over. He's proven me wrong. He shut me up. I truly believe that he and another thing about why I believe in him to to be

Starting point is 00:30:24 high in this race. We all know that the Heisman is a very narrative-driven award. Now, the only thing that can overcome the Manning Legacy Award because it's like how Eli's up for the Hall of Fame and people are like, oh yeah, he's a guy, he's a contender when it's like, let's come on, right? But the only thing that can overcome that is Clemson's resurgence led by Kay Clubman, led by he and Westcoe and Williams and company being phenomenal, which I think is very possible. I think that's extremely possible. Kevin's in the same thing. I think he's amazing.

Starting point is 00:31:01 I think he's wonderful. And I think nothing less than great things about him. So if he is to take SMU to a special place, to an undefeated place next year toward the end of the season, even one loss, but he's doing great things. But I see him easily. So I see on the big board, I see just one more ACC player who's got preseason odds.

Starting point is 00:31:24 And you want to talk about value. If you bet, if you bet $100 on this player, if he wins the Heisman, you get $8,000. on your $100 bet. And that's Isaac Brown, the running back at Louisville, who just had an awesome. I mean, it wasn't a Heisman candidate, per se, but had an awesome true freshman year at running back.

Starting point is 00:31:42 You think Isaac Brown is there, is there some value there? Absolutely, there's value there. Remember the last time a guy from Louisville won the Heism? He was some ungeralded dude that came out of nowhere as well, you know. And everybody's- Carried my fantasy team this year. I didn't win the championship that he carried me.

Starting point is 00:31:58 You and me both. My fantasy team stunked to the high head. I had one win, but thank God he threw five touchdowns on that day. But with that being said, Isaac Brown is phenomenal. And I don't think Louisville ever gets to respect nationally if they deserve. But there are moments where a guy is undeniable. And the freshman season that Isaac Brown put on, think about him with a year extra in the weight room, in the film room, seeing what he did wrong, seeing what he did right. And Louisville, you say what you want about the Browns being quarterback.

Starting point is 00:32:31 I think their offense whispers overall because by and large, their offenses are always humming. You know, they may make the big mistake here and there, but by and they know how to move forward, okay. And so if Isaac Brown is the centerpiece of that offense and he's doing very special things or they're having a special season, don't, don't be shocked if he's there, you know, a lot like if Drew Aller leads Penn State to undefeated season, which are highly down. Yeah. Because of the two running backs leaving and whatnot. If that were to be the case, I'm sure he'd get there. But you and I both know he doesn't have the goods to win it. He doesn't have a good to overtake Arch Manning and win that thing.

Starting point is 00:33:10 He doesn't have a goodst overtake a K. Club, Nickville and win it outright. By the way, before the Louisville fans are like, they're typing really angry at me in the comments. Because I looked over this one. I apologize. I didn't realize Miller Moss is also on the list. He's the Louisville quarterback now USC transfer. And he's got plus 3,300 odds. So I forgive me.

Starting point is 00:33:32 You mentioned Brom being the quarterback whisper. You think he can whisper loud enough in Miller Moss's ear that that he can take those plus 3,300 odds this year. So of all the quarterbacks and the transfer reporter that I thought highly up, I think Miller Moss may be walking into the best situation. I really do. I think he's walking into a situation where you're bringing back a ton of talent, a ton of production, a ton of guys that meant a lot to this team. I'm looking at him saying, hey, man, you may be the secret ingredient.

Starting point is 00:33:59 You may be, in the terms of the PowerPoker, as you may be the chemical X to make this thing all go how it should. So I'm very intrigued and interested to see what happens with Miller Moss. But he's another guy. Again, when these Louis guys come, they're not the favorites. They're not guys that are screened about and shot about from the mountain top. But I'll tell you, they can play some damn good ball down in Kentucky. Well said.

Starting point is 00:34:24 He's Kenton Gibbs from Lockedon Wolfpack. Make sure you check out everything Wolfpack on that show. check out everything. Miami Hurricanes on Lockdown Cains. I'm Alex Donnell. We'll talk to you guys next time on another episode of Lockdown ACC. We are part of the awesome Lockdown Podcast Network. Your team, every day.

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