Locked On ACC - Daily College Football & Basketball Podcast - UNCERTAIN FUTURE: How Will the Protect College Sports Act IMPACT the ACC’s Top Brands?
Episode Date: August 3, 2026ACC powerhouses face major uncertainty as the Protect College Sports Act threatens to lock Clemson, Florida State, North Carolina, Miami, and Georgia Tech into the conference, forcing defectors to ope...rate as independents for five years. Is this new NCAA and federal legislation a safeguard for tradition or a roadblock for the league’s biggest brands? Julian Council and Kenton Gibbs explore the impact of revenue-sharing caps, revamped transfer rules, and agent regulations on ACC programs struggling to keep pace with the SEC and Big Ten’s deep pockets. Debate heats up over which ACC schools can afford the $48 million athlete payout and whether the new rules level the playing field or widen the gap. The hosts break down recent court rulings affecting eligibility, roster chaos caused by last-minute NCAA reversals, and the tough decisions schools face in prioritizing football vs. basketball. Can the ACC survive the financial squeeze, or will new legal battles reshape college sports forever? Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! KALSHI For a limited time, Download the Kalshi app and use code [LOCKEDON] to get up to $500 in bonus credits when you trade $25. The Game Don't miss this chance to celebrate 40 years of The Game with 40% off your entire order. Visit https://TheGameCaps.com and use promo code LOCKEDON at checkout. Indeed Listeners of this show get a $75 Sponsored Job Credit to help give your job the premium placement it deserves at http://Indeed.com/podcast Gametime Today's episode is brought to you by Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDON for $20 off your first purchase. Terms and conditions apply. FanDuel Today's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. Join all the action at https://FANDUEL.COM to play Daily Dingers and make your free pick on who’s hitting a homer this MLB season. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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The SEC and Big Ten are finally on board the Protect College Sports Act,
but it might not be the best thing for certain ACC schools.
We'll talk about it right here on Locked on ACC.
You are Locked on ACC, your daily podcast on the Atlantic Coast Conference.
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Welcome in to another edition of the Locked on ACC podcast.
I am Julian Counsel, and he is former NC State Football Letterman, Kenton, Gives.
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As y'all can see, if you're watching on YouTube, I am not Alex Dono. And I do not sound like Alex Donnell. I am Julianne. I'm a different dude. I'm here to break down to ACC with my boy, Kenton Gibbs. I'm excited to do what's going on, Kenton.
Oh, I'm excited to have you here, man. I'm excited to have you here. And by the way, I know that Tar Hill, I'm sorry, Dirty Foot Clubbers, we're
telling me for quite some time, for quite some time.
This guy just talks bad about one of the biggest brands in the A-C.
And so, you know, I just don't understand.
Well, guess what?
Mr. Council has not one, but two parents who are alums of the very prestigious dirty foot.
I mean, University of North Carolina.
Stop.
Stop that.
With that being said, you know, when you talk about Tar Hill Board, Tar Hill Bread, Mr. Counsel is that.
He is that.
That is me.
team. So he will be pushing back when I'm wrong, which is rare, but he'll be pushing back when I am.
I'm sure you're putting it wrong, man. I'm sure you're putting it wrong. You're wrong. What you said there, man, the dirty foot club. Don't be saying stuff like that.
Like my mom's the pops listen to this. Don't do that. Don't disrespect my family. Well, listen, Julia, Julie, they got a dirty foot on the side of helmet. That's all I'm saying. You remember the chrome helmets with the foot on the side. I said, what type of nonsense? This is a children's show. This is a family event.
Ken, that's a piece of state history right there, man. We're all.
tar heels. You live in the state of North Carolina, you're a tar here whether you want to be
or not, but yes, I am Julian Council. I host Lockdown Panthers coming to the NFL as well.
I've been here for about five and a half years of locked on, been phoned at the mouth, literally
and figuratively to be back here talking college sports, talk about my home conference, the
ACC grew up in North Carolina fan, went to Elon University. Don't tell me I can't
rule for Carolina because I didn't go to Carolina. I don't want to hear none of that because
my parents grew me up in that stadium. I've been in the Dean East Smith Center and the King of Stadium more
than any of y'all. So don't even talk to me about all that. So happy to be here.
Happy to talk about all this. And, man, Friday news dump, Kenton, two different things.
We got more court rulings. We got the SEC Big Ten finally being online and potentially
going to have even more stuff when it comes to all that going on. The big news from Friday
night was that the SEC and Big Ten struck a deal with federal lawmakers,
regulate college sports industry with the Protect College Sports Act, which the ACC has been about.
the Big 12 has been about.
Everybody else has been about SEC Big Ten been like, no, this is not good enough.
You need to bend to our will and give us what we want.
And eventually, sounds like the Senate did that in the league's president and
chancellors voted on Friday to support this bill that could transform college athletics.
Now, there's five things I want to point out to y'all before getting your thoughts on
this, Kenton, that are key components of the bill.
Number one, this would potentially grant the NCAA and conferences a limited antitrust
exemption to re-implement the one-time transfer exception.
It would standardize a five-year eligibility policy ban, which is a good thing.
Professional athletes from returning to college establish an agent registry and maximum fee
of 5%.
And what I think is probably the biggest thing is create a more strict athlete revenue share cap,
which is what's all about here as far as trying to regulate college sports and end the chaos.
How do you think, how do you feel about this?
Are you on board with this?
You happy that seeing Big Ten are finally ready to kind of get this legislation
across the finish line.
Here's the thing.
I want to be clear about this.
I want to talk about what I like first.
The agent part of it, okay?
The agent registry and the cap on their percentage.
I'm glad that that's happening.
Some of the stories that I've heard from some of these players with NIL and all that,
listen, y'all know, I talk about cast tech all the time here.
On average, we put out nine guys a year to, you know, FBS programs around the country.
Here's the deal.
I've heard the stories.
I've heard them.
I've heard it from NC State guys.
I've heard from guys around the ACC.
I've heard that, you know,
agents have collected as much as 15%.
15.
Now, mind you, that's 15 off the gross.
So Uncle Sam gets their, his cut.
And then after Uncle Sam take his gram out of the pie,
you're also looking at the agent coming in,
getting the slice off that pie.
15% is egregious, number one.
That's great.
Number two.
not having any type of registry to show like, hey, I've done the right things to be certified.
I think that that is a little bit problematic.
So I do like that they're setting up that infrastructure.
I absolutely love those things.
Preventing professional athletes from coming back.
Oh, oh, I have been telling these 25-year-olds for years, go get on Indeed.
Go get on LinkedIn.
Go get on ZipRecruiter.
I know that all of those are not sponsored this show.
I apologize to the folks who do, do that.
But go get on.
I'm a recruiter by trade.
I know all the job boards.
You tell me, I'll tell you about it.
Dice, Y, Combinator, you name it.
I'll tell you about the job board.
The reality is, go get on one of them.
Go do a job.
If you're closer to 30, then you are to being okay to date one of the people on your campus.
You might need to go get a job.
But with that being said, I still don't like.
like the idea of a cap because you're limiting the people who make the money, you're limiting
their ability to get paid. Here's the thing. I know everybody loves to say, oh, it's an arms race.
It's becoming a race to the bottom. It's an arms race. And if all of a sudden, everybody forgot
how to make burgers and now fry cooks became in demand and all of a sudden, everybody was having
to pay $30, $40, $50 an hour to get somebody to flip patties, would the government feel the need to
come step in and say, all right now, that's enough. We enjoy McDonald's too much. We got to cut
these fried cooks pay. We would all look at them and say, wait, why are you doing that? If that's
what the company wants to pay them, if that's what their value is to them, if my value to
NC State is $3 million a year according to them, if it's $5 million of year according to them,
that's their choice. There's always an option to not pay it. There's always an option to say,
well, you know what?
They do want 10 million or they're going to Ohio State.
Go to Ohio State.
Have fun.
Do your thing up there.
You know, I don't like that.
And this is the biggest thing I've been renting and raving about since this thing started.
No college athletes were at the table while the Protect College Sports Act was being drafted.
Yeah, and that's the problem.
Yeah, that's the problem I would have with that as well.
Like, I agree with you.
The agent registry is the right thing to do.
I don't understand how that was not already implemented with the current structure that we have right now.
I see Jeff Goodman constantly calling Darren Heitner, who's one of these lawyers who's really profited off of the chaos in college athletics, calling him 15% Heitner, because that's the kind of money that he's allegedly taking from these student athletes to go out there to try to get them eligible or try to move them at other spaces within college athletics.
It's just crazy amount of money those guys are taking.
Professional athletes should not be playing college.
I'm sorry.
If you left, to go to the NBA and you didn't get drafted.
It's too bad. Too bad. That's on you. If you have more eligibility and you decided to take bad advice, not get drafted, R.J. Luis down there at LSU. Failed professional athlete. That's on you, man. Don't come back to college. So I like that. Five-year eligibility policy. Look, I think college is four years. I was fine with the four. You know, you got five to play four, all that. But whatever, just have to be five. And that's created even more issues, which we'll talk about later on the show. I'm cool with those three things. I mean, the one-time transfer exception. I'm cool with that.
Because look, man, most people, such as yourself, are going to play college football, but are not going to be a pro athlete.
Having somewhere to call home is important.
I talk to former guys all the time.
We talk about all the crazy things they did outside of playing ball at their respective schools and how they can go back, take their families to all those spots and have somewhere to call home.
Like, if something happens, state you, NC State's going to help you out because you went to state.
You have that on your resume.
You weren't there just for a year picking up a paycheck.
But yeah, the revenue share cap is what this.
all about, man. It's not about restricting
transfer. It's not really about the agents.
It's all about the amount of money that's
being spent right now.
And do I think that a lot of these guys are
worth $3 million? No.
If your name's Arch Manning, certainly
with the Manning last name, if you're
Jeremiah Smith with what you've been able to do
and how people actually know you? Because
how many common people know who's
the starting linebacker for NC State
this year? And how much is he going
to make this upcoming season? It's
Popo Aguire, by the way.
or Gerey, but close.
And AJ Richardson.
Those are the two starting linebackers, by the way.
But you guys didn't know that.
We knew that, but they're going to be making a lot more money than you probably think they should
based off of the whole NIL.
So that's what it's all about, it's trying to restrict the money.
And they have the new cap.
Apparently, it's going to be $48.8 million.
Five of that is going to be spent on women sports and non-revenue sports.
21.3 was the original cap they already had set.
And then about $22.5 million is going to be on retaining players,
which we'll see if that retention pull is going to really just,
be a retention pool or being a recruitment pool.
It's sketchy to me.
I felt like when they should have gone from the beginning is just bring the athletes to the table,
have an actual union, actually have a CBA, make them employees, and figure that all out.
And you don't even need to have a cap because you know how you can restrict the money
from going up is restricting them from moving all the time.
Because if you transfer in and you're stuck after that one time transfer, you can't be like,
oh, I want a million dollars.
And they're saying, we're not going to give you that.
Because right now you can say I want a mill and they won't give you a mill.
You'll just leave.
And you go the next spot, do the same thing.
So we'll see how it works out.
I'm not really the biggest fan of this.
I like the idea of having some stability in college athletics.
I just feel like this was not the right way to go about it if you're the schools and you're the instability.
I 100% agree.
And also the five and five is another thing I love.
I tried to hold it off on that because we're going to talk about that a little bit later.
But again, this is just one of those things that there are many parts of this.
that are good.
It's just a problem of the poison pill
that comes on the back end of it is like,
that's a really big deal for me.
Because this is America.
If you want to pay somebody to do a thing,
when have we ever stopped that?
When have we ever said, hey, doctors make too much.
So we're going to, as the government,
make sure that we lower the cost of med school
so that more people can get
in and it's not as restrictive or prohibitive of a practice. Oh, law school, you know, the L-SAT,
it's just too few people who are not already law legacies that can do that successfully. So we're
going to lower the bar so that more people, we don't do that. We say, hey, lawyers get paid what
they get paid. If you can't afford a good lawyer, we got a big pants lawyer with the
manila folder coming. By the way, if you ever do find yourself in the court case and you see a lawyer
who look like they'll know what a tailor is and they come here with that manila folder,
you're going to jail.
I don't care if it's for jaywalking.
You're going to jail.
You're going, okay?
He's going to walk in and tell you,
just take the 40 years.
For littering, yeah, just take them.
But in all seriousness,
this is a moment where I'm looking at this saying,
this is one of the most un-American things you can do
in a country that is the land of the free
and where we say, only in America,
and capitalism is king here,
I don't see how you can then say,
oh, it's going off the rails.
These players are making too much
and we can't sustain it.
Oh, well,
so sad too bad
figure out how to budget better
I don't what do you want from us
and that's not what colleges do
because you look at the way they've spent money
in any other industry in America
these people would not have a job so
look if they want to spend $6 million
on a roster that's on them it's an option
that they have and they are taking
that option right now to try to be competitive
I understand eventually the bubble
was going to burst and probably has burst for a lot
of schools out there so I understand
trying to rein in the dollars
this is probably not the right way to go about it,
but it is at least the way they're going about it.
It appears that the Senate will pass this at some point in the coming weeks
and it'll go to Congress and then President Trump,
who did intervene in all this,
certainly would sign it.
And then we'll see what the fallout is because there's been,
with every change of college athletics over the last five years,
really since the pandemic,
there's always been these unintended consequences.
What will those be when we this,
if this actually comes to pass to protect college sports act,
SEC and Big Ten finally on board?
AC's already been on board.
But not every team,
Not every school in the ACC is actually happy about this.
A few of them out there by name are a little leery about this.
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Back here on a locked on ACC Julian counsel, Kent and Gibbs, talking about the protect college
sports act that appears to be passing through the Senate by the end of this upcoming week,
probably on Friday, maybe Saturday. They'll stay around long enough to try to get this through.
then goes Congress and potentially to the president's desk and could be just a college landscape changing type of congressional act, which they've been begging for for seven years.
Maybe not the best way to have gone about it, but this is the way they're going about it.
Now, SEC, Big Ten's on board.
ACC at large is on board.
Big 12, everybody else below them, D1, D2, D3, all want to see this happen.
But there was a piece of the Ross Dllinger article from Yahoo Sports on Friday night that I want to read right now that makes it interesting as far as the impact for the.
the ACC in general.
The bill is the opposite of the narrow version that college leaders wanted.
It is incredibly specific touching on several concepts, including conference expansion
and coaching movement.
The legislation caps power conference membership at 19 schools and requires those programs
moving from one power league to another to operate as an independent for five years.
The expansion provision may impact decisions from schools that are in position to move
the ACC to the Big Ten or the SEC officials like Clemson, Miami, Florida, State, North
Carolina and Georgia Tech and others have expressed some privately and other publicly in meetings their opposition to the concept.
So sounds like to me, some of these schools worry about they're about to be stuck and not have the kind of money that the Big Ten and SEC are going to have with these TV contracts.
Your thoughts on all of this.
Five years and independent is crazy.
Yeah.
You got to have some type of advantage or some type of niche thing that you can work with to where like,
That works out for you.
A lot of people think of Notre Dame as like the only independent,
but they're really the last of the Mohicans type of situation.
People forget Penn State was independent for many, many years.
But again, very unique.
Who in that area outside of Penn State was playing very big time football?
The Northeast, although it has a massive population, is not a hotbed for football fandom at the college level like you would expect it to be.
Right?
So it makes sense for them.
Nebraska.
They were one of the first schools to have a specific TV deal.
I believe theirs was with ABC.
I want to say I could be wrong there,
but they were one of the first schools that had the independent sweetheart deal
where it was like, y'all get us, we get y'all, y'all give us the money.
You know, we work out like that.
And Coach Osborne and company were dominant for years with that.
The thing is, how can a lot of these teams survive?
With all due respect, how can the Clemson survive independent five years?
before you can go somewhere else.
Yeah, and that's like scheduling is a big thing, too,
because you look at Notre Dame,
they have the ACC scheduling agreement that gets them five games.
Of course, they will play, you know,
other teams like Navy every single year.
They'll get Army in there.
And Yukon, they're the only other FBS independent right now.
We've seen UMass join a conference.
We've seen a lot of these other schools like South Carolina.
When they left the ACC, they toiled as an independent for a long time
until they joined the SEC back in 92.
Virginia Tech was an independent for a period of time.
In today's landscape,
especially with these nine conference games at the SEC and the ACC have gone to.
We've already seen all these cancellations.
We've seen Georgia try to move games of Clemson and with Florida State.
We've seen South Carolina.
They've canceled the series of North Carolina.
We've seen that happen in C.S.
We've seen that happen in C.S.A.
where I don't know how you leave the ACC and you find enough games on your conference slate to be able to play a 12 game schedule.
We already saw how difficult it was for Washington State and for Oregon State.
And they only had to do that for one season before now they're going to have.
have things figured out the new PAC 12.
It's interesting to me because the deadline to leave the ACC or at least to announce you're
going to leave was back on June 1.
That was 60 days ago.
So that's coming past.
That's the leave after this upcoming school year.
And my assumption is if this does pass college sports act, the protect college sports act,
that's going to be immediate.
So that means that you would immediately have to be an independent for five years before joining a
conference.
And you look at just the amount of teams already in these other leagues, SEC only has three
spots.
The Big Ten has one spot.
guessing that big 10 spots for Notre Dame,
who's already an independent name for Clemson.
It's not for Florida State. It's not for Miami.
It's not for North Carolina. Damn sure ain't for Georgia Tech,
which I'm, why are they in this?
You always hear about North Carolina
because we know the three schools that don't want to be here
are Carolina, Florida State, and Clemson.
Because they're the three schools they didn't want to vote for SMU,
Cal and Stanford.
Now, NC State, y'all,
your old president said, yeah, why not?
Well, let them in. Let them in.
And you know what? And you know what? Look at
what SMU and Cal have bought us.
Glad to have.
What about SMU?
Glad to have.
SMU bought us a playoff appearance.
What does North Carolina football bought us?
We're not talking with North Carolina.
We're talking about the expansion schools.
But that's the thing.
That's the thing.
An expansion school has already bought us a playoff appearance as a conference.
We got to be excited about that.
I'm going to tell you, I love, I love, I love the fact that these conferences are panicking.
And if you thought that it was bad when the players were going to court,
wait until you see some of these schools,
go to court and figure out what they want and how they want to get it. Because do you really think,
do you really think Florida State is going to be independent for five years before they
find a new conference? Do you really think that the mighty tigers of Clemson, South Carolina,
are going to wait until 2032 to join the new conference? If you believe that, I have oceanfront property
to sell you in Raleigh. Yes, it's landlocked, but don't worry about that. There's still oceanfront
property here to sell you. Just, just,
give me the money first because you'll believe anything.
You'll buy anything, I tell you.
The reality is this is a situation where these teams should be scared.
But I'm interested in seeing the antitrust that applies to players,
which means players won't be able to sue.
Will it also apply these teams?
Will these people have to go through the same thing and, hey, you can't move?
Sorry, too bad, so sad.
You're part of this thing that has an antitrust exemption.
Therefore, it just is what it is.
I'm intrigued to see how that goes.
Yeah, and my thing, it's not just the universities, it's the states,
because it's not going to just, because we saw with the ACC and the lawsuit that
Florida State and Clemson put out there, it was a state of Florida that was helping out
Florida State.
It was a state of South Carolina that was helping out Clemson.
I can't imagine the millions of dollars that are at stake here that the state of Florida
is going to just allow Florida State Miami to be stuck.
Say North Carolina is going to allow North Carolina to be stock, save of South Carolina and
all that.
And I guess, saved to Georgia as well with Georgia Tech, who they were in the SEC.
they left. So that's on y'all boys. We'll see how it plays out. My big question, too, is how many schools in the ACC can afford this new cap of $48.8 million?
And let's just throw away the five-mill that's going to go to women sports and non-revenue sports.
Like, let's look at the $41 million other dollar, $43 million out there.
Because you look at the way that typically teams have used it over the last year.
It's been like 75% football. It's been 25% I guess it would be other sports, like probably 15% basketball.
So we just break it down 75% football, 25% basketball.
That's $33 million for a football roster.
That's $11 million for a basketball roster.
I mean, how many schools out there in the ACC can afford that?
Because we know right now schools like Boston College were not full repshare.
Pitt was not full rep share.
Syracuse was not full rep share.
I know Clemson was.
I know North Carolina was.
I know NC State was planning on not being until Bill was told, buddy, we need to be for
revshare.
And then they got on board.
How many schools can afford that?
Like that's the thing about like being.
being potentially stuck in this league.
And I want to see the ACC survive.
I want the ACC to have.
I want North Carolina to be in a league.
I want to continue to play state and play Virginia,
play Clems.
And I want to see that.
But also you have to think about the financials,
like how feasible is it?
I mean, I 100% understand where you're coming from.
That is an argument that needs to be made and had about,
hey, how feasible is it to make that 48 or to pay out that 48 while you're making what
you're making?
I have a thousand percent agree.
Here's the thing about it.
It is the situation.
that you are in, period.
And you ask how many teams can afford it?
Maybe eight, maybe, maybe 10 if I'm being really aggressive, 10.
So who's that?
Who's that?
Because, I mean, that's probably North Carolina.
That's Miami.
Of course.
North Carolina, Miami, Florida State.
North Carolina, Miami, Florida State, Clemson.
Are we sure about FSU though?
Are we sure?
Oh, yeah.
Because they cry that they're broke all the time.
So I'm a little worried about him.
Miami is like, you know you got that one family member.
I'm sorry, Florida State.
You know you got that one family member that, like, they always cry and broke,
but every time you go to their story, they out the country somewhere just on a random Tuesday.
It's like, are you actually broke or are you just spending your money poorly?
Like, are you broke or why did you, sir, you didn't need that Durhamax truck.
You don't even work in construction.
Why do you need that?
It's a doly.
Why are you driving that truck?
You know, it's that type of thing.
Where Florida State, every time you look up, they've got a new facility popping up or a stadium.
renovation is popping up.
That costs nine figures,
by the way,
nine figures worth of stadium renovations.
Of course you're broke.
It's like NFL players
and they're like a hundred million dollars
ain't a lot of money
after I spent it all.
Yeah, no, no crap, Sherlock.
After you spend the money,
there's no money left.
But I think that, again,
aggressively half the conference
could come up with that,
very aggressively.
And that's all I could give you.
Because like you said,
there's going to be that bottom half.
There's going to be Wake Forest
that can't spend that money.
There's going to be Boston College.
There's going to be Syracuse.
There's going to be
There's going to be all these teams that just cannot get there.
And so the challenge to them is to find ways to do it in spite of.
The reality is it's not fair.
It's not equitable.
It's not equal.
This is America.
People do not care.
Like, I'm so sorry to tell you.
As unfortunate as it is, I grew up on the west side of Detroit, 482-2-8 is a zip code, to be exact.
the average salary there
about $33,000 a year
today.
Now I want you to think, how do those people
how do the folks from there,
the folks that I love, I still have a hard
I still go back, give back all that type of stuff,
how are they functioning and surviving
and doing what they need to do day to day?
They find ways.
They have to make it happen
in spite of a lack of resources.
That's the same thing to this team.
Is it fair? No.
Look at baseball.
You know, Terrick Schoolville just got traded
for three.
bags of peanuts.
Okay,
my tigers have
disappointed me once again.
Mr.
Illich is looking down
from heaven, very
disapprovingly of his children.
First y'all made the hot and ready
more than five dollars.
You know,
when he got to get in all those rights.
Yeah.
He's looking down disapprovingly again,
but the reality is,
baseball is what it is.
They still don't have a salary cap.
And it's still the old American classic.
It's still America's sport.
Why?
Because, again,
it's very okay with inequality.
It's very okay with
if you don't got the money, you don't got the money.
The teams that will, they'll get the players.
They'll have a bullpen of Sy Young after Cy Young after Cy Young,
and then a line up of one through eight of all current All-Stars,
and the non-spot is a future All-Star.
It's just the nature of the business, you know.
And again, it is unfortunate, but you can find ways to do it.
Dicker talked about the ACC Media Days.
He said, I can't recruit like Oregon.
We can't do it Ohio State's way.
We have to do it to Wake Forest Way.
And what did Dicker doing his first year at Wake Forest?
wins.
Nine wins because he knew I've got to do it my way.
And the transfer rule being one time could also help schools like that be able to
pretend their players and stick around for a lot longer than right now where they could
immediately leave after having Trump coming in, having a great season, then going elsewhere,
which we've seen.
So it'll be interesting.
And schools have to decide how much they want to invest in certain sports because
there will be schools that want to go all in in football.
There will be others don't want to go all in basketball.
And you have to find out what your niche is going to be if you can afford to do that
$48 million.
and if you can, how much you're going to spend on each?
You'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
I know Gino, I'm a crying shaking and throwing up.
I know he, what do you mean?
Only how much for women's sports?
I think Gino will be all right.
I think Dan Hurley will be as well as far as the money goes.
I don't think the football program of Yukon's taking too much of that rev share that they
got up there in Connecticut.
But another thing happened on Friday, we had to have known with the June 5 for 5 going through
and not allowed in class 2022 that there were going to be a lot.
lawsuits and a judge decided that everybody can play.
So we'll talk about that here in just a moment on locked on ACC.
The NCAA just continues to make just boneheaded decisions, which leads to things like
to protect college sports act and then begging Congress for help.
And it also leads what happened on Friday afternoon where a federal judge in Colorado
granted a class-wide preliminary injunction on Friday requiring the NCAA to restore
eligibility to all Division I athletes from the high school class of 2022, who,
graduated this past spring. As many of you recall back in June, the insubilee did what we knew was
going to happen for a while. They allowed the five for five, five years of play five. And now this
has led to a lot of lawsuits where class 22 was a senior class this past year. They didn't get
grandfathered in. They're like, why aren't we getting an opportunity? It's not fair and all that.
And now a judge said, yes, I agree with you. It's not fair. So for the time being, a lot of those
players can come back.
Now, of course, Charlie Baker, the president of the NCAA, took a shot saying
failed professional athletes will continue to use college sports as a fallback option,
robbing the next class of young athletes of college scholarships,
which is probably not the best wordage to have from the president of the NCAA.
But yet, he's a part of the decision makers who decided to even allow this to be the case
where the class 2022 would fight back.
So here we go again, Kenton, another lawsuit, more guys, not going on indeed.
dot com. And now real questions about
rosters even heading into this fall with football season
like 27 days away.
Julian, I'm right there with you.
This is anarchy. This is chaos.
This is foolishness for everybody.
Because had this been passed earlier,
and this is why I tell people in life all the time,
if you're going to screw up, screw up royally.
If you're going to make the bad decision,
make the bad decision, and go with it, run with it and do what it,
it takes from there.
Because serious questions.
right? When you think about, I'll use an example from NC State.
You think about a Van Allen Louvre.
You think about a Darien Williams.
You think about a Trey Holloman, three players whose eligibility would be impacted by this.
Where can those guys go that still have the money that they would have commanded had this decision been made at the start of the portal?
Where can they go?
I don't know.
Maybe back to state because I did see Roger, what was a howl?
What was his name last name, first name?
Which one?
Former, he played at State.
I saw Howell was talking about, hey, come back to State, Van Allen Lubin.
Oh, Richard, Howard. Ridgel.
There we go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey, listen, let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something, okay.
I'm not above being shameless here.
Not above being shameless.
Obviously, you want your guys back and all that.
But in all seriousness, not only this just puts everybody in a position where the rosters were set.
The roster was set already.
Everybody had their guys already.
And now it's like, well, who's going?
Well, you know, I know you were making $2 million last year, but can you?
You kind of end the bargain being at this point, brother.
You might have been getting paid more in La Liga-Balensaste, though, in Puerto Rico at this point.
I'm sorry to tell you, but it is such a no clue at all thing to have this once again pop out.
The NCAA gets shoved in the locker and court.
And once again, everybody else is left holding the bag saying,
well, how do we do this?
How do we adjust to this new reality?
How do we adjust to the reality of guys?
You know, again, I talked about NC State's need for quality bids
and Van Allen Lut was back on the money, you know what I mean?
But how much can you afford to give them?
How much can you afford to give them?
A team who did it the right way,
who built out their roster properly,
is now in a position where you're like,
I'm kind of stuck.
And a team that was hoping and banking on,
please courts, do something.
And then I'm going to go scoop up all this talent.
of pennies on the dollar.
They're now in a position to eat, looking at you,
well, Wade, but they're now in a position to eat.
And it's like, I can't blame them.
I can't blame Coach Wade for being in a position
and getting all these players that are coming out.
Because, again, this ruling should have come out sooner,
but instead we're sitting here.
Oh, campus started, but you know what?
We do need a nose tackle.
Let's go get us one.
Come on.
Yeah.
And my thing is, like, look, we have players out there,
Tyler Nicol who played at North Carolina, Virginia Tech, and then recently at Vanderbilt.
He got drafted in the NBA draft.
And he was talking about how unfair it was.
Like, buddy, you're playing in the association now.
Why are you trying to stay down at Vanderbilt?
Why? Because you can make more money.
And that goes back to the whole, there's going to be guys making more money in LeBron and Philly.
I understand LeBron's got a two-year, $8 million contract.
So the money that he's not really getting this time around is allowing for that to be the case,
but just shows you the ludicrousy in all of this and kind of why they want the cap.
But again, look, there's another way to do this.
and they didn't want to do it that way with collectively bargaining.
And I get why they don't want to do it.
But understanding as well, you made this mess.
And I wanted them to just tell these guys to shove it.
Now they did.
And it's led to this, which led to moral lawsuits.
So probably hindsight being 2020,
which I don't think anybody ever has had,
2020 vision, even in hindsight,
they would have said, okay, fine, you guys can come back.
Now I saw Michael McCann, who's a sports business,
attorney attorney has actually thinks that this is probably not going to last.
And their schools are going to be in a waiting pattern right now.
but not all of them because it's kind of affect basketball more than football.
I saw that Tommy Castellanos is trying to go back out there and play.
Buddy, you play quarterback and you've missed all the offseason.
I don't know how you think you're going somewhere and going to be able to find a spot.
Now, somebody could get hurt as camps are opening up wide and large this week.
So maybe Pitts, Desmond Reed wants back in.
Duke's Todd Polino.
We've got Virginia's Kazim Moore or four ACC guys I've seen.
But basketball is where the impact is Clemsons-R-Jard-free on Sunday.
he's signed of Arizona.
So he's already somebody who's already capitalized on this.
I know North Carolina, I've seen reporting for Inside Carolina about them looking at Florida's Michael Handloat.
And apparently that now opens door for him to come to Chapel Hill.
You already mentioned Williams and Holloman and Van Allen Lubin.
And I mean, Darren Williams, you know how much money he made last year.
I can't imagine he's wanted to go back for anything less than what he got a year ago.
And that money's probably not out there.
He's going to Texas Tech.
They got that oil money.
Oh, well, yeah.
Okay, fine.
Cody Campbell, talking about both sides of his mouth.
He's on one side saying, oh, these players.
has got too much power on the other side.
Come to Texas Tech, you get all the power you won't.
You get all the money you want, and the reason they're even allowed to be as good as they are
is because of the chaos and the brokenness of college athletics that he continues to work towards
having.
So it's crazy.
We'll see.
I mean, Pitts, Cam Corrin, Barry Dunning, Jr., Stanford, Chisholmachapar, and then Nate Cal Mason,
McKay Mason, also from Wake and Dylan Hunter from Clemson or other ACC guys who are also trying
to come back to college.
We'll see.
Where are the spots?
Where's the money?
football, I just don't see how it's realistic
to add somebody at this point in time.
And you're also kind of screwing over guys
who've been with the team all off season long,
especially basketball-wise,
where there's international trips happening right now.
Like, Clemson, I think they've been in Italy.
And you're going to bring back somebody
who has not been with the all off-season.
You've already paid guys or he told them what role they're going to be in.
I just have a hard time seeing that work out
the way that a lot of these kids are hoping it's going to work out for them.
I know we got to wrap up here,
but the ever-so talented business council,
you think it's bad for basketball?
somebody is already hearing
ones, come on, one's
defense, and that guy
runs out with the ones. And he's
excited. And now he's hearing,
oh, actually,
they just allowed us to get a
new three techniques. So
you go back with the
twos.
You take it easy. You be safe
though. You have fun. But
keep trying hard for us. We're just going to
add in this new guy. You know,
it's foolishness. It's nonsense.
And again, this type of chaos on this scale at this very moment,
you could have done this immediately after March Madness.
And it would have saved everybody some time.
Teams were just getting done with Spring Ball.
They would have had a complete summer lift going into camp,
PRPs, player run practices to go through this with these new guys.
But instead, we get it right here in the middle of the summer.
Foolishness.
And right as camps are opening and when we want to talk ball.
Because we talked about on Friday,
Hey, we're going to talk about day one.
And of course, this happens.
I love college sports.
Glad to be back talking about them.
This is the stuff I'm so sick and tired of.
And we'll get back to talking ball tomorrow.
We'll talk about what's going on with some of these schools.
Miami, they're going to find one of the ACC.
SMU, Louisville, you're going to rise up?
Clemson last year, what was going on last year?
Are y'all going to figure it out this year, Davo?
I mean, because I can see a gut check game coming out in Berkeley on a late night
on Friday on Friday.
So we'll see how that plays out.
But I appreciate being with you now here, Kenton.
But that's going to wrap up this edition of the Lockdown
ACC podcast network. Again, I'm Julian Council.
He's getting Gibbs. Follow us over on the social at Julian Council.
Follow him at TGIF underscore Kenton.
Again, we'll be back on Thursday, breaking more about what's going on here in ACC.
Talk about some balls about what's going on this season.
I was going to prepare for this college football season, all that.
More coming up here on Tuesday on lockdown ACC.
