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Episode Date: June 11, 2025

ACC Football Shakeup: Miami Hurricanes Outrank Clemson in ESPN's FPI? Rivalry Showdowns Explored!Alex Donno and Kenton Gibbs dissect ESPN's controversial Football Power Index ratings for ACC teams, questioning Miami's surprising edge over Clemson. The duo analyzes fierce rivalries like Florida State vs. Miami and Georgia Tech vs. Georgia, debating what truly makes a college football matchup legendary. From the electrifying atmosphere of Virginia Tech's Lane Stadium to the historic "wide right" moments, this discussion covers it all.Tune in for an insider's look at the ACC's most intense rivalries and the factors that elevate them to greatness!Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!GametimeToday's episode is brought to you by Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONCOLLEGEfor $20 off your first purchase. Terms and conditions apply. Monarch MoneyTake control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKEDONCOLLEGE at monarchmoney.com for 50% off your first year.FanDuelRight now, new customers can get TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS in BONUS BETS when your first FIVE DOLLAR BET WINS! Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started. Bet with FanDuel—Official Partner of the NBA.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

ESPN's FPI has Clemson winning the ACC, but Miami as the strongest team in the ACC, we'll get into it. You are Locked on ACC, your daily podcast on the Atlantic Coast Conference. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. We are less than three months away from football season, by the way, prepare accordingly. Thank you so much to the everydayers for making Locked on ECC. your first listen and your first watch. We're available free wherever you get your podcast. We're free on YouTube.

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we're going to dive in to the top football rivalries in the ACC and are any of the inner ACC rivalries better than some of the crossovers we have in football? Let's dive in though, Kent, into ESPN has updated their FPA ratings, which is the one for the computer nerds. Okay, this is the one that goes by the data. They define the football power index as a measure of team strength that is meant to be the best predictor of a team's performance going forward for the rest of the season.

FPI represents how many points above or below average a team is. Projected results are based on 20,000 simulations of the rest of the season using FPI, results to date, and the remaining schedule. Ratings and projections update daily. So at this moment, Kenton, let's make sense of this. They've got Miami at the top of their FBI with Clemson at number two, yet they give Clemson a higher chance of winning the ACC with a third. 34% probability to Miami at just 30 and a half.

Does that check out to you? Not at all, but this is why I say that the computers should be allowed to do this, but let's strip it of all preseason thoughts, analysis, all that type of stuff. Because my question will be, what is this information based off of? And when I say, what is this information based off of? How can you predict a team to win the conference outright, given the highest win-out percentage in terms of going undefeated. And that is the same team that of all power five or power four, rather, teams now,

of all power four teams has the highest amount of returning production. That team you're going to say is worse than a team that loses a number one overall draft pick? I don't think so. And they also don't think so. So, you know, you end up with a very, very interesting situation or scenario here where, again, the win-out percentage is higher for Clemson, but somehow the hurricanes have the edge in terms of overall FPI.

I'm very confused by that. Yeah, I'm actually going to say that this does, in a way, make sense to me because I think last year was the perfect example of how this scenario can play out. Because Ken, in the regular season last year, Miami went to Clinton. went nine and three. Yet Clemson got to and won the ACC championship game and Miami because they lost an extra game in conference versus Clemson losing an extra game out of conference in that season ender to South Carolina. Despite Miami having a better record, Clemson won the conference, got to the college football playoff. Miami didn't. So that to me is the illustrator on how they can

project Miami to have, and this is a fraction, right, this is a decimal point on how they can project Miami to have a slightly better, I guess, regular season, but Clemson having a better chance to win the conference, because that exact scenario played out last year. We did see that scenario, and this year's out-of-conference schedule can do a similar thing for Clemson. It's actually setting up in a very similar way in terms of you can lose to LSU and you can lose to South Carolina and you can still end up in the ACC championship game. I do agree there. My only problem is what I are we basing the idea that these teams are good or bad on?

Are the computers taking into account, you know, what a shocker with all due respect, Don't know, what a shocker that the Miami guy is saying, it makes sense that Miami's on top. No, but in all seriousness, we're looking at this thing and I'm asking myself here, what are we doing for a situation where how did the computers account for the fact that you, I, congratulations. If you're listening to this show right now, you have thrown as many passes. to Miami Y receiver so far as Carson Beck has. How do we properly quantify that as opposed to Kay Clubnik, who's coming back for another

year with his guys, as opposed to Brian Westgo Jr., who's going to get exponentially better with another year under his belt? And honestly, even the guys that are, even the teams that are slated below them, which we'll talk about a little bit later, but even the teams in terms of your Georgia text of the work, how do you put them behind, how do you put them in Louisville behind? I'm Virginia Tech. What has Virginia Tech shown to say, hey, we're going to be this team and these other teams are not.

If you are a big detractor in Miller-Malt, guess what? Miller-Moss still has two absolute stallions in that backfield to hand the ball off to. So where are we getting this idea that, hey, we know Kyron Drone, who lost his leading restroom, Bichauden, a guy that made that read option with him and those two, so deadly because he was an even-leaving guy. By Shaw 2 was a guy, you blink wrong. He's gone out the door. So we're looking at these situations.

And we're saying to ourselves, the computers have created these rankings based on 20,000 simulations. What are the 20,000 simulations based off on? With all due respect, you're only as fucking as your last cut. What have you done for me lately? And as of lately, nobody's played a damn snap. I mean, I think to be, this is just a reminder that no matter how good your data is, there's a reason why you play the games, right?

I mean, what do you think when Miami was leading 21-0 at Syracuse last year in a game they ended up blowing, which cost them a conference championship appearance. If you went by like the lot, because another thing ESPN does is when you're watching their live game trackers, they'll tell you the percentage of victory. At the moment, Miami was up 21-0-th, their percentage of victory is probably in the 90s. And so, you know, if you just go by, and I think the ESPNFPI is probably a really good formula. And it's a good way to sort of study up. But it doesn't, Matt, it doesn't, it can't predict some of the actual wacky circumstances that can happen on a game day.

It also, it can't predict who's going to get injured, which is going to be a factor. I mean, they're, Kenton, they're going to be certain teams, you know, knock on wood, everybody stays healthy. But injuries are, you know this better than anybody. injury is a reality in football. So certain teams are going to probably lose a game or more than they should based on injuries happening this year. And another thing, I think this is actually part of the formula, but maybe not measured properly enough, is continuity. And to me, continuity, as you talked about all the returning players for Clemson, that's the primary reason why I think Clemson are going to repeat his conference champions this year because they return their star quarter. back. They've got at least a trio of receivers who should be really good this year. It's going to be

having the third year for Garrett Riley coaching that offense. Dabo's been there forever now. So continuity to me is a big reason why I think Clemson's going to win the ACC again. Yes. And to talk about to go back to some of those teams that are in that kind of next bubble, continuity is why I'm a little bit worried about Duke. Duke's defense, they're going to be fine. They've got talent. They've got depth. They've got it all on the defensive side of the ball. Offensively, I like Minson. I think that he can grow into one of the best quarterbacks in the conference. He is walking into a situation where you are replacing a lot.

You're replacing a lot on the offensive line. You're replacing a lot in terms of your receiver room. And this is not to disrespect. I think that they're, again, I think that they're going to be good next year. I think that they're going to be much better than Duke's football has historically been. But that's why I would leave a team like them out and include a team and include some of these other teams. and ask myself, you know what? I think that Kevin Jennings can do it.

I'm not sure because he's going to have a new supporting cast around. I love me some Kevin Jennings. I think he is dynamic. I think he's dynamite. I think once he learns to get rid of the ball a little bit quicker, a little bit more of the rhythm, he'll be fantastic. I'm not sure if he can do it with an entirely new supporting cast. And that new supporting cast that he has,

he's been able to throw the ball to. Like you said, that continuity, and the ability to even play with that new continuity needs to be taken into account, which is what worries me so much about Miami. I know that everybody thinks I'm the world's biggest Carson Beck Hater, which I'm not. I think he's good. I think healthy him is good to borderline really good. That's where I think he falls in terms of college quarterback.

I'm not worried about him as a quarterback in terms of if he's at his best and he's healthy. I'm worried about knowing the passing game is mostly timing and rhythm. And even when you look at a Cam Ward, even when you look at a Cam Newton, even when you look at a Justin Fields, even when you look at guys who transferred one year succeeded in that year, you still saw those guys by and large have entire off seasons with their receiving court. That is the part that worries me more than Carson Beck's help. It really and truly is. So I'm very intrigued to see what these systems come out with or not what these systems come out with, how the games play out against what the system. have come out with because I think that Miami is in that space where they could be a 10-win team. They could also be a 7-win team. I'm just not sure right now.

And if I look at the FBI from a Miami point of view, I think it's flattering, covering that program and knowing where the talent level was four years ago compared to where the talent level is today. Now, people will bring up issues, you know, as Mario Cristobal, is he going to get his game day chops together? is he going to make the right decision so you're not blowing 21-0-0 leads and taking knees and all that. By the way, they had a 95.8% chance of winning that Syracuse game when they would have 21-Zet. So just let's do it. 95.8. I'm not even necessarily going to blame that completely on him,

although he's the one who hired the defensive coordinator who failed in that spot. But all this to say, the fact that like the analytics say Miami is at worst, like the second most-town team or the second best team in the ACC, it's pretty flattering knowing where that roster was because I've covered that team for a long time. And where that roster was three, four years ago compared to where that roster is today, they have come a long way. And, you know, Miami is involved in one of the best rivalries in college football, certainly one of the best in the ACC, but which ones are the best? And are any of the rivalries between ACC versus ACC better than some of the

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So KG, I'm thinking about some of the best football rivalry games that involve ACC teams. You and I both love the backyard brawl. And they used to be in the same conference in the Big East back of the day. But Pittsburgh, West Virginia, it's historic. It's hateful. It's great. You know, Clemson versus South Carolina is. an annual affair. Georgia Tech versus Georgia.

Like even when Georgia is way better than Georgia Tech, those games are often really good. They went to eight overtimes last year. You know, Florida versus Florida. State is really good. Are any of the rivalries like ACC versus ACC, do you think are better than some of those that are kind of crossed over non-ACC rivalry games, in your opinion? First off, let me start off with this. The backyard broad.

the way that they turn Sweet Caroline into a song to tell your opponent who, as Mr. Milchick would say, devour feculence. Wow. Wow. What a rivalry. What a rivalry. That's what I like to see. But in terms of are there any in-conference rivalries that are to that level, I'm going to tell you for years in my introduction to the ACC at a very high level, I came in when Florida State and Clemson, that was the game.

That was whether or not it's acknowledged as an official rivalry or not, that game was the fact, though, the class of the conference bowl. That was, who's going to go win the ACC championship? Yeah, we're both in the Atlantic, but we all know nobody from the coastals got a shot. It's me versus you, Mano Amoff. Now, with Florida States fall from grace, it's died down a lot. It's very different than what it used to be. And it doesn't quite have a story of a history because for the majority of it,

Florida State was up and Clemson was not there. But in terms of those that are officially recognized as robberies, I probably have to say Florida State, Miami would be the biggest and worst one because those are two schools that really, really do not like each other. And that's the type of robbery I enjoy. That's the reason that I don't really care for the Duke, North Carolina robbery in basketball. They're too buddy, buddy with one another. It's too much. We respect you guys. We like you guys.

I'm a Detroiter. I grew up with Ohio State Michigan. and Michigan, Michigan State, and the Little Brown Jug, Michigan and Minnesota, those are the rivalries I grew up with. And the most cordial of those three is Michigan, Minnesota. And do you realize that the Little Brown Jug became a thing because one team stole the other team's jug after a win and was like, if you want it back, come beat us for it. That's the type of rivalry I like.

And Miami, Florida State brings the closest energy to that in our conference. And I know I'm saying that as somebody that played in NC State. UNC. It is a mid-off every year. We hate each other. We do bring the hatred, but it's a mid-off every year. I've got to be honest about our two football programs, very middling, not really much a state for most of it. Miami, Florida State, those used to be one versus two games. Those used to be games where it was like, hey, this ain't just ACC because they weren't even in ACC back then. This is national relevance. So that would have to be the one that I would say competes with the outside. But if I am being honest in my heart of hearts, we don't, if we're talking

about schools inside the ACC, the rivalries with teams outside the ACC is much better. Virginia Virginia Tech is another one that comes to mind. I like the Commonwealth Cup. I like that they don't like each other. As it's still tough because Virginia Tech dominated that for so long. So I'd probably say, you know, the mixture of robberies where it's a team and the team that's outside the ACC, they have the edge right now. Yeah, I mean, obviously I co-sign on Miami versus Florida State. I've probably been to, I'm going to estimate at least 15 of those in person in my lifetime. And yeah, I mean, you go back to, I'm a little older than Kenton. Go back to the early 90s when you had that run of every time Florida State was lining up

for a game winning or a game tying kick, it was going wide right. I was there for the wide left in 2002. Although the wide rights and wide lefts all happened like four or five of them within like an eight-year span. It was like anytime Florida State lined up for a kick, but then on the flip side, there was one where Miami had, I think it was either a game winning or a game tying, a game-tying extra point that got blocked. That was at Hard Rock Stadium.

So they called that the block at the rock. And yeah, for many years, obviously the timing over the recent years has been weird. Because like Miami was pretty good last year. Florida State was like historically bad. A couple years prior, you know, Florida State was really good. Miami was terrible. Florida State blew out Miami. You've had a lot of those in recent years, but like you said, I can remember 90s, early 2000s, every time Miami versus Florida State took place, usually the winner of that game was probably going to go to the national championship game that

year. It was those sort of stakes. It was just unreal. And also, you know, Kent and I, you know, I can handle myself pretty well, but there are a few situations where I've been like leaving the stadium after a Miami versus Florida State game. And like, I don't feel safe, like walking to my car. There was one year, circa, I don't know, like 2013, 2014. I'm leaving Hard Rock Stadium. And it was after, like, one of those really close games. Like, I think Florida State won the game, but it was close.

And I see this huge crowd of people around this Miami fan and this Florida state fan getting into a fist fight. And one of those dudes got knocked out cold. they had to bring in the ambulance and the stretcher. It's like, I don't know if I'm going to make it out of here in one piece. It's like those sort of situation. There is definitely hatred abound there. Let me tell you something.

There is a similar thing that it happens with a lot of robberies around this conference. The hatred is there for multiple robberies in the conference. I think it's a combination of that hatred and the stakes. That's what makes the robbery to me. Because Georgia, Georgia Tech, you know what their robbery is named, Donno? Clean, old-fashioned. in hate. It's clean old fashioned hate. That's what their rivalry is called. I love that. I love that. That is what gets me excited. That's what gets me geeked up. U.N.C. fans made like a pamphlet that was

like a How to Survive and Carter Finley thing. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, you shouldn't feel safe coming into my house. You shouldn't feel good here. You should feel uncomfortable. Traveling groups. Don't make eye contact. Good. Don't. Don't know what's going on here. The hatred is there for multiple rivalry. So I don't want anybody to listen to this to say, oh, how do you not include our rivalry? We don't like these guys either. I'm not saying y'all don't. I'm not saying y'all don't. All I'm saying is there are some teams don't play each other enough, Penn State and Pitt, get back in that bag. You know, some teams, it just, it just has died down over the years for whatever reason. But when I combine, when I think about what makes a rivalry great, when I think about what makes the game great,

It's not just Woody Hayes getting kicked out for punching the player. It's also that those were multiple national championship team. That that game, the game, decided the national champion who was going for multiple years. There were multiple seasons. I remember when there was Mike Hart, Chad, and all of them and regaling all of those times when there were top 10, top five matchups. That is the type of stuff that makes a robbery. If you look at 15 to 20 years of infutility from either team, it lessens the rivalry.

It cheapens it. It makes it worth less than it was before. I don't think that we have had two teams consistently good enough that played each other enough to say we are permanently displacing the South Carolina, the Clemson, the Palmetto. We're permanently displacing that. No, I don't think that we've seen anything. And Pitt in West Virginia is so dependent on the hate because both of them have had decades

where it's like, are they good? What's going on? but the hatred is there to such an extreme level. You're talking about fistfights. Oh, my God. If you look that up on TikTok or Twitter, I'll tell you what, you will see some 12-round championship bouts.

I ain't hear no bail yet coming out of West Virginia and Pittsburgh. So, you know, those are absolutely wonderful robberies. And I hope that the ACC does get there. As much as I hate the Dirty Foot Club, I would love for NC State and them to get good at the same time. And then all of a sudden it's like, Are we looking at a top 10 matchup with NC State UNC and football of all sports? This is crazy.

I've never seen anything like this. I would love to see Miami, Florida State to be a national championship, a playoff game, in essence again. I would love to see that. We're just not there right. Well, I want to get into something. Kenton brought up, I think a fair criticism about the alleged top basketball rivalry. I want to dive into that. plus just how scary it is to go into Morgan Town, West Virginia.

You want to keep it locked right here. We're not done yet on this brand new episode of Locked on ACC. Now, I've never had the privilege of catching a WVU West Virginia game on the road. But, you know, Miami and Boston College and Virginia Tech, the teams that used to be in the Big East, like obviously used to play them every year, Syracuse, same thing. So every other year you'd go to Morgantown. And even like at the times Kenton, when like West Virginia had a run like late 90s early 2000s where they were always pretty good. Like they weren't, you know, national title level, but they were always like, you know, eight, nine wins.

Like you do not want to go in and play at Morgantown. And so, you know, anytime like Miami was on the cusp of making the national championship game, you would always worry. You have to go into Morgantown and wins could be really tough. You're going to spread this out. And then I remember hearing players from like, you know, Circa, 2000. 2001, 2002, you know, Miami players would talk about having to have it to hear those crowds in Morgantown. And also, like, they were throwing batteries at you somehow. Like, they're throwing like double A's at you from the stands.

It's like projectiles. Like, that is the type of environment you do not want to go. I mean, I don't advocate for throwing stuff at players. No. You know, I certainly give them their props for being a tough place to play. Oh, absolutely. There are multiple places like that. I don't know what it is about the Virginians, but they all have their.

things. Have you ever been to Lane Stadium, Donno? You ever been there? I have. Lane Stadium I have been to. And it's crazy. The other sandman, oh my God. Even before them, even before, do you know how they start working into your psyche? And I don't know if they built it like this on purpose. Their campus isn't like close by in a way. No. That like when you're driving in, you see like civilization and humanity around the stadium. You don't. There's nothing. There is nothing. And all of a sudden you see the stadium out of all these woods and all this. And then you see fans after you see the stadium. You're just like, what are, what is happening right now?

And when I played it was a night game and it was, it was so like nobody told me, which I didn't like because we should tell players about this type of stuff. They're saying, man, they cut off everything. Like there's nothing. It goes from the fans booing you and your team and like, you know, all that good stuff, and you running out of the field to dead silence and pitch black. And then you start seeing the phones light up. And then you hear, don't, no, no, no, no.

And you're like, oh, oh, what's going on here? So, you know, those types of things, they definitely help out with robbery atmospheres. But again, you just, it's a, what makes a great robbery, it's a lot like what makes the perfect part. If everybody is a little different, but more importantly than those things being a little different, You also, you know, you also have to have a certain Genesee qua that you can't really quantify what the it factor is. There just has to be that it factor, that balance of how competitive is it. If one team is winning for 15, 20 years straight, that cheapens the rivalry.

If there are never any states, it cheapens the rivalry. If you're too buddy-buddy with one another, you're, oh, you know, we like Miami. We like Florida State. They're a great school. You know, I think they'd be a great option. if I didn't go to Miami. I would love to go to Florida State. You know, that type of stuff, it cheapens a robbery. I don't care how many great players are on the other side.

Yeah, the players can respect them and say, oh, yeah, I had tackling Ward done was a time. That was difficult. That was no easy time. Sure, the players can say that. You as a fan, they're bums. They're all bums over there. I've never liked any of them. That war and sapsed guy is a strange dude.

Why isn't he coaching that Miami if he loves it so much? that's what what makes a robbery great to me. And again, I think that there are multiple aspects that go into it. And I think that there are very few robberies that we have left that captures multiple aspects of that. But like you said, Georgia Tech and Georgia, one of them that's really good, that's kind of sneaky underrated. I just wish we had more that were big time as like an Iron Bowl or as the game. Like I would love to have that in ACC. We just don't have our version of it.

And let's go back to what you said about the Duke versus UNC basketball rivalry. You feel it's too respectful. And I noticed that. Like I didn't really even start thinking about that until this past season. Because when we would come together for the squad, like you were always ragging on J.J. Jackson, who is locked on Duke and Isaac Shea locked on Tar Heels. Like, you guys are too darn respectful of one another. I hadn't really thought of it that way. It does take something away, I think.

I, to me, that basketball rivalry has just become so commercialized and like so, so hyped to the point where I think it gets a little bit overhyped where somehow the game, Michigan versus Ohio State and college football, even though that gets overhyped by the media, it still lives up to the hype. And I think it's because of the hatred, planning the flag fights on the field where you don't get that in Carolina versus Duke. When's the last time the Carolina coach got kicked off or Duke coach got kicked off the program for fighting a player? And I'm not saying that it should happen. Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong and say, Coach K, get out there

and start throwing blows. You, Royal Williams, me to center court and duke it up. I'm not saying that. And I know people are going to clip this and say, oh, there's those classless NC State folks again. I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. You know why?

Because, again, it adds to the rivalries that NC State are the part of, saying, oh, Ken's Glass lives and they go to, you know, oh, move you and all that. But there is a serious aspect of not just physical violence. I know Dono and I have referenced that multiple times. So I want everybody to hear us clearly. We are not advocating for physical violence and saying that's what makes a robbery good. No, but a disdain for one another, a healthy level of disdain for one another,

absolutely, absolutely. You need that. You need that. And I feel bad for a team like Syracuse, that. doesn't truly happen with anyone, you know. Syracuse doesn't have that type of thing with anybody. Louisville and Kentucky, oh, they got it. They got it.

Let me tell you, one of my young boys from Kaz Tech, D.I. Walker. I love you, baby, boy. I'm proud of you, man. You're doing your thing. He's a Kentucky grad. When I tell you, anytime he talked about Louisville, it was like it. It was like that. It was like, oh, I don't like those guys.

They're soft. They're, you know, not mentally tough. They're not a good school. If they could have went to Louis, they could have came to Kentucky, this is where they would have played, but instead they had to settle below you. That's it. That's it.

And they don't put hands on nobody outside of the lines, outside on the field, but he made it clear with his word. We don't like you. You're a little brother. We cannot stand you. You are not, you're not us. We're not you. You know, I just think right now we've got too many buddy buddy rivalries going on. You know, it's fine.

They're a good school. I hope they finish second in the ACC. No, give me that SMUTC. you. Give me that. I don't like you. We share the same space. Give me here now. We got to like, you know, obviously SMU has their, their non-conference ride. Like, we got to get SMU and Syracuse maybe hating each other. Like, we got to manufacture a new rivalry. We got, we got to do something here. You know what's funny. Syracuse or SMU's famous booster who was suspended and banned from the program, Sherwood Blunt. His daughter is a UVA grant.

So the blood bowl, you know what I mean? Stop it. I know what y'all are doing. I know what y'all are doing. Not like that. It's B.L.O.U.N.T. Okay. So, again, we are not advocating for physical violence or hashish on this show.

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