Locked On Bengals - Daily Podcast On The Cincinnati Bengals - Al Golden talks development, philosophy in Bengals introductory presser
Episode Date: January 27, 2025Al Golden's introductory press conference with Cincinnati Bengals media focused on player development and hit on topics that seemed to plague the Bengals' defense in 2024. Jake Liscow and James Rapien... break down the biggest takeaways from Golden's comments, including an emphasis on adaptability in both scheme and teaching methods to maximize individual player strengths. The Bengals also added a defensive "run game coordinator" title for Jerry Montgomery and hired linebackers coach Mike Hodges as the defensive staff takes shape.Join the Locked On Bengals Insider Community! https://joinsubtext.com/lockedonbengalsFind and follow Locked On Bengals on your favorite podcast platforms:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/locked-on-bengals-daily-podcast-on-the-cincinnati-bengals/id1159723162Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7AObc0lh0WmQl5fJVgtajsGoogle Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vbG9ja2Vkb25iZW5nYWxz?sa=X&ved=0CAYQrrcFahcKEwio_sXtj8nuAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAgStitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/locked-on-bengalsSupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!LinkedInLinkedIn Jobs helps you find the qualified candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/LOCKEDONNFL. Terms and conditions apply.Turbo TaxReady for stress-free taxes and the most money back, guaranteed? Head over to TurboTax.com today and get matched with your Expert. Only available with TurboTax Live Full Service. Real-time updates only in the iOS mobile app. See guarantee details at TurboTax.com/guarantees.PrizePicksDownload the app and use code lockedonnfl to win $50 instantly when you play $5. You don't even need to win to receive your $50 bonus, it's guaranteed! Prizepicks. Run Your Game.Click Here: https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/LOCKEDONNFLGametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNFL for $20 off your first purchase. Terms Apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelSuper Bowl 59 is here, And there’s no better way to make every play more exciting than with FanDuel Sportsbook. New customers can bet just FIVE DOLLARS, and if you win, you’ll score TWO HUNDRED BUCKS in Bonus Bets. Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started. Bet with FanDuel—Official Partner of Super Bowl Fifty-Nine. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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We've heard from Al Golden.
Let's break down his biggest priorities for this Bengals defense that we learned on Monday.
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And we will get to the linebackers coach, the Bengals hired or announced that they hired on Monday as well.
But we're going to start, Jace, with the Man of the Hour Al Golden meeting with the media sitting probably roughly where you're sitting right now as you're chatting.
with me from Paycor Stadium.
What was your big takeaway as you sat a few feet away from where you're sitting right now,
listening to what Al Golden had to say?
Same chair, by the way.
Same chair that Al was in.
This is the Al chair that I'm sitting in now.
So there you go.
But no, I mean, the biggest takeaway, if you go highest, highest level,
when we have time to discuss each thing.
But all of the things that the Bengals want to be better at,
player development, being flexible,
scheme-wise, adjusting to opponent, doing the little things like tackling, it felt like they were
emphasized at one point or another during this 30-plus minute news conference, where Zach Taylor talked
and Al-Golden talked, and they talked about the process and all of those things.
I mean, what do the Bengals want moving forward?
Well, they want the good stuff that came with Luana Rumo, of being able to adjust and scheme
at a high level at times in certainly big games.
We saw that.
but they want to develop.
They want to carry out the plan for the young guys from the moment they're drafted
and get the draft call throughout.
And anything and everything in between, including the fundamentals and the basics.
And they want the guys to play fast.
All of these things that we've talked about when it came to the defense,
Al hit on.
And I don't think it was by design.
I think it's because, one, we were asking questions about those things.
And two, I do think that it is a good fit.
And last week, when people were frustrated with the search, I said, oh, well, the Bengals are getting a really good coach.
I don't know if it's going to work, but he's a really good coach.
Notre Dame, there's a reason why Notre Dame was sad out Golden Left.
And that doesn't mean, again, that it will work.
But it does feel like from a fit standpoint, from an audiology standpoint, things should mesh well.
And when you get good coaches that mesh well, usually you get pretty darn good results.
So hopefully that's the case.
But yet that's my biggest takeaway.
All those things, all those concerns, all those thoughts that we've had over the past three weeks.
And before that, but past three weeks since Luan Arumo was fired, I think he addressed them in one way or another today.
And it doesn't really matter until we see what he actually does on the field, right?
But he said and addressed all of those concerns.
And whether that was because those were the Bengals' Park.
as well, and they are aware of the things that need to be better, or because of the questions
that were asked, or because Al Golden was either doing his homework on the narratives around
the Cincinnati Bengals defense or got a little rundown from the Bengals media department,
he talked about the right things. And I think you can start with perhaps the most important
thing, or maybe one of the more interesting things to me, because there was a lot. And you mentioned
talking about the way he does install was interesting.
to me. The way that he referenced a few times, no shades of gray, the way he talks about
empowering his defensive players on the field to make adjustments, and he's repeated this on
a number of platforms at this point, he can't make the right call every time, but the players
on the field can make adjustments from those calls and empowering the players to do so.
And having a plan for guys immediately and talking about how proud he was at Notre Dame of the
contributions they got from freshmen on that defense, including some key players on that
defense. So everything from freshman to graduate players, the veterans of the college game,
the six-year players on that defense were contributing to that Notre Dame defense.
But to focus on development for a second, because that's obviously something that has been
a big buzzword for Bengals fans around what they need.
to do with this defense going forward.
Golden's philosophy there was interesting to me,
and he talked about it in detail saying,
you have to have a plan for those guys,
and it starts from the time you make that phone call to draft a player,
and that obviously brings several players to mind in recent history
for this team, primarily Dax Hill, is the one.
But the idea of getting those guys ready to go right away
and having a plan that makes their jobs as,
easy as possible so they can, as he said, essentially see and react.
What was it?
Stimian response?
Defense is the words that he used there.
So hopefully he can enact those philosophies in an effective way, obviously.
But it was encouraging, I think, to hear him talk about that.
No doubt.
I think that's the number one thing that they needed to find, someone that is going to be able to develop the young guys.
because I think it's easy to take Miles Murphy because of all the
measurables and everything around him, right?
But you have to get something out of him.
You have to know, all right, well, we've got to get him refined as a pass rusher,
give him multiple moves, multiple things that he can be confident in to win with consistently.
And he wasn't that guy at Clemson.
He's got it in him.
We've got to get it out of him.
And that hasn't been the case through two years.
It's called it like it is.
It hasn't.
Hopefully it is in year three.
But that's the job.
And there are going to be other players.
like that. Maybe not a first rounder. Maybe in the first round this year, they get a guy that's
ready to go right away. But Al seems to understand the situation he's going to be in, because
in an ideal world, the Bengals will pay T. Higgins and Jamar Chase this offseason and
Trey Hendrickson, which means you're going to have a lot of money tied up at the top of your
roster, which makes development and getting the most out of role players. You guys, that not
necessarily stars, but guys that are going to contribute in their role, that much more crucial.
And so it's, it was the number one thing coming into today that I wanted to hear, just logic-wise,
how he views young players.
And he was talking about the development part of it with young guys.
And then I asked him about the draft.
And you're right.
It was that phone call, right from the phone call.
And that's how it should be.
That's how it should be, especially because when you tie it to early in the news conference,
he brought up the character part of it.
And I think that's huge too, because if you think back to Al Golden in 2020 and 2021,
it was, we were talking about the captains draft, how they were finding these captains,
and it was a big theme, and they go to the senior bowl in 2020,
and they get Logan Wilson, Akim Davis, Gaiter, Marcus Bailey.
And guess what?
All three of those are hits.
And all three of those picks worked out much better than a lot of their third, fourth,
and seventh round picks have worked out in the past.
So I think that that's a big takeaway from today is his logic,
how he's going to approach developing these guys.
I think along those same lines, along the development lines,
hearing him talk about learning methods and finding ways to deliver information
to players that they would understand, I think,
just even referencing that shows that he has some understanding of,
we're going to need to provide multiple different media,
like multiple ways for players.
to learn depending on how they learn best.
And I'm going to, he's talking about trying to understand how each player learns best
and making sure that they have methodologies available for those guys to learn
that will suit their learning styles, right?
And just having the awareness that that exists, not to say that the previous staff didn't, right?
But emphasizing that in your introductory presser, it's a small comment,
but I find that to be encouraging that, you know, he's aware of those things in the first place.
and talking about getting guys' eyes on the right things at the right times
and having clearly a very detailed philosophy about how to get the installation done,
I think those were fascinating elements of his introductory presser as well,
talking about wanting to do 10 installs.
And he said, of course, we'll adapt it to how we're going to do it here in Cincinnati,
but a very clear idea of getting the menu set in the spring so he can pull from it for the rest of the season
and have those answers ready to go.
and getting that installed from the beginning so players can play fast.
And that was a big key part of his development philosophy,
is everything that he's trying to do is enabling players to play fast on the field
and doing whatever he can to get them prepared.
So it can be a, as he says, stimulus response for these players on defense
instead of thinking a whole lot when they're on the field.
No doubt.
And that, you know what that does?
That gets young players on the field faster.
It empowers them.
And that's going to be a theme, I think, as we continue, we'll continue our conversation about Al Golden coming up next.
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All right, Jake.
Let's keep things rolling when it comes to Al Golden.
Other things that stood out to me
and something that I've mentioned a few times,
and I was able to talk with them after as well.
I said, hey, how much does it help that you're in college
for three years?
You're playing against all these ranked teams.
I think it was 19 total.
Ohio State multiple times,
the Georgia's, teams like that.
evaluating this draft, next year's draft.
And he brought up a good point.
He was like the unique thing is his players will tell you.
Your players will tell you like, oh, 17 on the other team is just, he's different.
And so he's going to have a unique perspective because he's coached against a lot of these guys that are going to be in the draft over the next year or two.
And Zach Taylor embraced that as well, saying, yeah, he's going to help offense defense special teams in evaluation.
and he might help the offense.
I mean, if you're guarding and going up against a really good receiver
and you have to deal with him,
he certainly tells Zach that,
and that's going to be a guy that's on the Bengals radar.
So I do think that that's going to help them as they evaluate this year's class
and probably the next year or two.
They are coming off a game against Ohio State in the national championship game
that's going to have like 37 players drafted from that Ohio State team.
At least.
Probably all in the first round.
And so he's going to be familiar with those guys.
He's going to know how he prepared for those guys, what his players thought about those guys, to your point.
That doesn't mean that that's like a silver bullet.
It's not like the silver bullet to drafting in the NFL is, maybe it is.
Maybe that's it.
Maybe it's like, go ask college players.
I'm sure it helps.
I'm not saying it doesn't help.
I'm just saying that like if it was foolproof, probably every NFL team would do it, right?
Sure.
I know.
I think obviously he sees what everyone else sees and can watch the tape.
But one of the edges is, oh, well, this guy's different.
Here's why, because the players went up against them.
Like, I just, if that helps you get the right fifth round receiver, tight end, guard, corner, whatever, like, it could be, it could be the difference.
It could be the difference between picking, not going to name names, but a guy in the third round that you might not have the highest character grade on versus insert whoever else.
I wonder who I was referring to there.
Well, obviously not Xavier Watts, who will be in every Bengals mock draft from now.
Second round.
Every second round mock draft ever.
I mean, if he gets there in those second round mocks, it's just drilled into my mind.
I don't know how many times I'm going to say that between now and April.
Maybe he becomes a clear first round pick at some point or first second round pick,
and we think there's little hope that he makes it to the Bengals in the middle of the second round,
and then I'll stop talking about it.
But until then, I mean, that's the guy that was making those adjustments for Golden on the field,
talking about empowering players to make adjustments to his defense on the field.
And it was something that you could see in the national championship game.
He was one of those guys, a key part of doing that for that secondary.
And so that's why that connection is so significant in my head, even though it is.
And maybe this pushes him down to the Bengals in the second round.
He's a 23-year-old.
He was a graduate player in that defense.
It didn't really have his big breakout until his most recent.
year but last year he had seven picks didn't he or am i my way off on that i don't know we're early
in the evaluation process i thought you are i don't know i don't know what his stat line was but he
he was like significantly better this year from what i could tell in his is what's but but again
we don't need to make this a savior watts episode it's a it's a tangent uh back to owl golden
i want to talk a little bit about the the installation that he's talking about i find that to be quite
interesting.
Ten installations.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the emphasis that he put on getting as much in in the spring as he could.
And he talked about being aggressive, doing a lot early in the process and getting
those, the menu of defense in as early as possible.
And I think that that approach, not to say that again is necessarily different from what they
did before, I'm sure that Al Golden is drawing some inspiration from his time working for Lou
and Removo from working in Cincinnati in the past. And he also referenced that, knowing what
Zach Taylor wants and how he runs things, should enable him to hit the ground running a little bit.
I like this idea of being more aggressive with your time early in the offseason program and helping
to use that to simplify things in the minds of the defensive players.
Yeah, I think.
it's such a key i don't want to hear in december oh we're playing way faster now i need that
you want to talk about starting fast you need to be playing fast in september you need to be flying
around in september you can't be questioning things in september regardless and i i don't care
like i that's even the most simple defense if you're playing fast in direct and you understand
that to me sounds better than all we're confused and the ball's being snobes.
mapped. And I know that's not a blanket statement and you got to confuse the
defense or the confusing opposing offense and all those things. But you get my point here.
You want this team to be flying around and being disruptive and creating those opportunities
for Joe. And that should be the identity is a fast, physical, hard hitting team that's going
to be opportunistic and enforce turnovers and have a center fielder like Xavier Watts on the
back end who does have 13 interceptions over the past two years.
I know I didn't read that wrong.
Seven and 23 and 6 and 24.
But that's the reason he's going to be mentioned so much is because that would make a lot of
sense, right?
Because there was a guy that wore number 30 that patrolled the back end and was clearly a
difference maker.
And so, yeah, the only way you can play like that is if you're, or getting back to that
level is if you're playing fast.
and hopefully his approach is going to fit.
And I do think that that's a big part of it.
Like a lot of people talk about the search, Zach Taylor, all of those things.
Zach knows what's on the line.
Like, Zach's no dummy.
He knows he's not going to be able to hire four more different defensive coordinators
to search up for the right one.
If he didn't think Al Golden was going to be awesome at this job, he wouldn't have hired,
he would have went and got someone else.
but I think the approach, the technique, the way he teaches,
I think all of those things were appealing to Zach,
and he thinks that it's going to fit.
It felt like he talked about the right things.
And it's easy to sit there and talk about the right things.
It isn't the hardest thing in the world to take a day on your weekend
to catch up on what the narratives were about the Bengals defense last year
and as a defensive coach who's been a head coach multiple times in college.
who is just a defensive coordinator for one of the largest programs in college football.
It wouldn't be hard for him to come up with.
Here are the things that I want to make sure I say so that I'm saying the right things.
But the way that he talked about them, it seemed clear to me that he had considered all of these things,
and it is a core part of his plan.
And that's part of the reason that he's the hire is I'm sure when they're sitting in interviews talking about these topics,
Zach also felt that Al Golden's approach to these discussions,
or dilemmas or problems the Bengals have to solve
or opportunities the Bengals have to take advantage of
was in line with the way that he wanted to see those things tackled.
And so when you hear him talk about it,
yeah, maybe it's easy to say the right things,
but it's better to say the right things
and sound like you know what's going on
and are aware of these things
and have a plan to deal with them
than to not say those things.
You still have to go and execute them.
But from an introduction,
repressor perspective, while there's very little you can take away from that in terms of
predictive value, it's still encouraging to hear him talk about these topics that have been
on the minds of Bengals fans for the last year of watching this defense.
Maybe longer.
You can't fix them today, but you can give us the impression that you're trying to fix them
today.
And I would much rather that than the alternative.
We'll continue.
We also have a linebackers coach to discuss.
But I'm sure there's at least a few more thoughts on Algold.
We'll do that coming up next.
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My only closing thought on Al Golden Jays before we discussed the Bengals linebacker coach and the other tidbits that we learned about this defensive staff, he kind of talks like a head coach.
I don't know if you had that impression as well.
Like you can kind of tell that he's been a head coach before the way that he handled himself in that press conference.
It felt pretty polished.
He felt like he knew what he was doing up there.
And I got the head coach vibe from the,
the way he talked. Does that make sense? Yeah, absolutely. No doubt. I mean, no doubt. And I think
that's, if you're him, that's probably part of the appeal in general, making the leap to the NFL,
obviously family being here, all of those things. But the thing that stood out to me,
and he probably is deep down somewhere in there. We all do that professionally, right? You're like,
well, if I do a good job here, what could happen, right? At the same time,
I do think that this was a really attractive job, and he mentioned the borough factor.
And I do think that that is a factor when you mentioned sounds like a head coach.
Well, what's the quickest way if you're making the leap from Notre Dame to the NFL to make another leap?
Let's have a quarterback that can win a Super Bowl, or a couple of Super Bowls,
and go a really long way in January and into February.
And so, no, I agree.
I think he's really polished.
I think the communication element with him and Zach should be exactly where it needs to be and him in the front office.
And that's what they're going to have to iron out now.
It's not like they've gone up and down this roster.
I think they know.
I think they have a good idea.
I'm sure he's not going to be stomping his feet saying, hey, I need 98 back in stripes next year, Sheldon Rankins.
I don't think he's going to be doing that.
But they'll evaluate this roster in the coming.
days and yeah it's it's going to be one I think it's going to be different and unique because we
kind of understood what what lou was doing and all of those things now we're talking about a whole
new defensive stuff we're going to talk about my codges in a second and I'm sure we'll hear from him
at the combine maybe sooner but certainly at the combine and so that could lead to new evaluations
new perspectives and who knows from a draft predictability standpoint it may change a little bit
Could it lead to DeMario Davis?
Is DeMario Davis a free agent?
I don't know.
Hey, is that going to be this year's Colias Campbell?
If so, come on, baby.
He's got to be in his 30s, right?
DeMario Davis is, he's 36.
Yeah, okay.
I mean, he's still playing well.
No, that was, that's like.
Is he a free agent?
I don't think so.
I'm trying to find it.
I can't find it.
There he is.
DeMario Davis.
He is under contract for the Saints in 2025.
Boo, cut him.
Yeah.
Get him out of here.
That was supposed to be some fun for us this soft season.
Come on, Saints.
What are you doing?
Jerry Montgomery, we talked about him a lot yesterday.
There was an additional title tacked on.
Since we last chatted with you, he will also be the defensive run game coordinator.
And I wonder if this is a complete defensive staff.
Because at this point, we also know that Jordan Kovacs is back.
Al Golden describing him as his right-hand man,
when they were working together in Cincinnati.
So Covax will be on the staff.
He was assistant linebackers coach.
Yeah.
So that checks out.
We know that Chuck Berks is back.
And we know that the linebacker's coach now is Mike Hodges,
who was previously the linebackers coach with the Saints from 2019 until present,
until present being 2024,
DeMario Davis,
the crown jewel of that linebacker unit for all of those years.
And Davis broke out, really, in 2019.
for the Saints. He was good for the Saints his entire time there, and he joined the Saints in
2018 and has been there ever since and has been the leader of that linebacker unit ever
since, but certainly could easily make the argument that Mike Hodges got the most out
of DiMario Davis in New Orleans. It's kind of a rotation, a rotating door for the other
linebacker in New Orleans beside DeMario Davis. Caden Ellis is probably the biggest success story
for Mike Hodges, but a guy that has another Zach Taylor tie,
which I think some Bengals fans are probably rolling their eyes at.
I know that whenever the Bengals make a hire,
there's at least some contingent of hardcore Bengals fans.
It's like, oh, how does Zach know this guy?
And I would say on the other hand,
you go read the Bengals.com introduction for Jerry Montgomery.
And Montgomery said the only other person he knows on the Bengals staff
Jordan Kovacs because he coached him in Michigan.
So there wasn't familiarity there for that one.
And Zach mentioned that when he pegged Jerry Montgomery in 2018 when he was on the Rams staff
and went up against the Packers from that, which I think is interesting.
And by the way, peg, they're put on the list or whatever.
It's probably, oh, man, he's a really good coach.
You keep it in mind, right?
And that's great.
I think that this, so I think he probably reached out to Jerry Montgomery pretty early on during this process after the New England thing went down.
And the New England ties, whether it's Scott Peters, Jerry Montgomery, I think that was coincidence, just to be clear.
But it is kind of funny how it works.
The Colts hiring Lou Anerumo and James Betcher, they tried to hire Charles Berks, who obviously stays in town.
and then you have the Bengals hiring multiple Patriots coaches from last year's staff.
It's part of the NFL.
It is what it is, but hopefully they found the right staff and the right pieces.
Yeah.
The Jerry Montgomery piece on Bengals.com also includes a quote from Mike Daniels,
which I found interesting.
And obviously, yeah, like you said, you have to hope that all these guys fit.
Mike, message me back, by the way.
I messaged Mike and he did not message me back.
Someone tell Mike Daniels to message me back.
Come on, Mike.
I'm trying to get, I'm trying to get him on Jerry.
He's talking to Jeff Butch-Hopson.
Who?
Come on, Mike.
Maybe you got to...
I'm just kidding.
Maybe you got to call him, you know?
Yeah.
Maybe he's a phone call guy.
I guess.
Come on, Mike.
Come on, Mike.
Daniel told Butch that the emphasis for Jerry Montgomery's scheme is having guys doing their jobs,
not going rogue and
staying
gap sound and
making sure that they're doing exactly what
they're supposed to be doing, which
not to say that again, this wasn't an emphasis
of the previous regime,
but it's something that
speaks to us
when we're talking about what we need this
Bengals defense to do.
I'm so curious,
do you think this is it? Do you think there's
another hire coming on the defensive staff?
I still think that that pass rush
Is that actually happening or is that just my fantasy?
No, I think
Because if you're making Montgomery your defensive line coach
And run game coordinator,
wouldn't you want like assistant defensive line coach
slash pass rush specialist?
I don't know.
Wouldn't you?
I would.
Yeah.
Do they?
You talking about the funds?
Yeah, don't they have one?
Because they didn't bring back,
they haven't replaced Duffner yet.
So they still have one.
They still have one slot.
If they choose to structure the staff the same way, which.
Get one more.
One more.
It's like you're at, honestly, let's be honest.
It's like you're at the bar.
It's like midnight.
You do one more.
Oh, that one's never a good idea.
I mean, it is when you're you.
When you're probably not a good idea, Jay.
That one is the one that always makes you pay the next day.
So not loving that analogy for coaching.
exactly.
But yeah, one more.
Does it make you pay?
Makes you pay.
Not me pay.
You're paying for it one way or another.
I have one other.
Take my card and let's have a drink.
I have one other idea and I don't remember what it was.
So let's wrap up on that.
You got me distracted there.
We'll see if there's another defensive coach coming.
Oh yeah.
He was talking about the fronts.
that they were going to play this year.
Talked about being a 4-3, 4-2,
and talking about not wanting to pigeonhole himself there,
and he said he wanted to get in a room and talk with Mike Hodges,
talk with Montgomery about the things that they like to do
that have given other teams' problems for their auxiliary fronts,
for the wrinkles that they were going to put in there.
Yeah, he also talked about being really proud of some of the changeups
that they put in in in Notre Dame despite being such a man-heavy team.
So the discussion around having changeups and having wrinkles is where I was thinking about that.
And so my thought there and why that came up specifically was from a pass rush perspective,
the Bengals did some different things from just like a four-two on nickel downs, on passing downs.
It wasn't just four defensive linemen under Luana Ruma.
They had a lot of different fronts that they would use from time to time, a lot of three-man surfaces,
and the whole viper position where you have an edge rusher who's going to move around a little bit that they did at Notre Dame.
I didn't hear that come up,
but you wonder if that would come up
as the course of the offseason goes along.
And if you're talking about those fronts,
wouldn't you also want a pass rush coordinator
or a pass rush specialist to be part of those conversations?
That's where the connection was.
That's why I started thinking about that.
I wonder if there's someone in South Bend that could come to Sengi.
Is there?
I'm just wondering.
I'm openly asking a question.
That's all I'm doing, Jay.
That's all I'm asking.
That's going to do it for this episode of the Lockdown Bengals.
podcast. Until next time, thanks for listening. Ho day and have a good.
