Locked On Bengals - Daily Podcast On The Cincinnati Bengals - Another Bengals blowout loss with UGLY film for Browning - but signs of life for Al Golden's defense?

Starting point is 00:00:00 Even in the blowouts, we're still grinding the tape, and it was another week where Jake Browning left opportunities on the field. But maybe there are signs of life on defense. Let's break it down. You are Locked on Bengals, your daily Cincinnati Bengals podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. What up Bengals fans and welcome to another episode of the Lockdown Bengals podcast. Part of the Locked On podcast network, your team every day. I'm Jake. Let's go. he is Mike Santagana joining me today as we get through our weekly film review that would have

Starting point is 00:00:40 been a whole lot more fun if week two had never happened. You can find Mike on Twitter at Bengals underscore Sands or maybe he'll be grinding those coaches clinics. Mike, have you started the coaches clinic of the week yet? Have you started posting that as we've joked about for the last few weeks on these episodes? No, but I probably should. It's more exciting. It's more exciting than what we're watching on the field. Got to get on that. We've got to do our part here to spread the coach's clinic loves, and that's why we're doing our weekly film analysis, film takeaways that continues to suggest the Bengals should strongly consider a move at quarterback the way that Jake Browning is playing.

Starting point is 00:01:20 But this week, against a really good offense in the Detroit Lions that, yeah, they eventually end up putting 36 plus on the board. If you take away the turnovers in the safety, the Bengals defense only gives up 21 points to the Detroit Lions, who have been to be. over 30. Well, now for four straight weeks in terms of total points. But we're going to start today with Jake Browning because Jake Browning is playing the most important position in sports quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals and wasn't good enough. Welcome back, by the way, to all of you who make Lockdown Bengals part of your everyday routine and all of you who make Lockdown Bengals your first listen. Mike, let's dive into another week of disappointing Jake Browning film where

Starting point is 00:02:01 Before we started recording, I described his pocket presence as schizophrenic, not really knowing what to do, where his eyes should be, when they should be there, breaking down at the first sign of something going wrong in terms of posture, the processing are really not there, the ball often coming out late, the ball often coming out woefully, inaccurately. But it's another week where to me when I look at the design of the offense and what they're trying to do, especially in the passing game this week, where the passing game was much bigger emphasis against the Lions than it had been in the previous

Starting point is 00:02:34 couple of weeks. There are guys open. It looks like there are opportunities there. And Jake Browning just isn't finding them or isn't delivering the ball on time inaccurately. Yeah, he's right now late on a lot of stuff. He's never early. So the timing isn't that he's hitting his checkdown before things have a chance to develop. It feels like he's a guy that needs to see it open to throw it, at least at the moment.

Starting point is 00:02:58 and the inaccuracy and being late leads to interceptions, which is what we saw when you don't have some type of rocket, Josh Allen type of arm where you could be late and still fit it in there or be a little inaccurate and nobody could catch it. These are, well, for better or worse, for both defense and offense, Jake Browning throws a catchable ball because it's pretty soft. He's not on the second pick, hangs up there.

Starting point is 00:03:24 The second pick, the guy could have called a fair catch, late and underthrown two of the picks there are two guys that were in position to catch the ball and they were not bangles so it's it's tough you put yourself down in such a big hole from those three turnovers that yeah he he kind of strings some stuff together in that second half and that fourth quarter especially but at that point i mean you're the game's essentially over you're playing against the lions you're down three scores you're putting up some points but and make it look a little respectable have give the fan something to watch but but when the game mattered, he was late, he was inaccurate, the ball wasn't getting to the right spot, he was misreading things. And like you said, the schizophrenic in the pocket, yeah, he's even seeing people back there when they're not back there, too. So it's a good description. He's running away from nobody's. It's tough to watch. And you see it. Like, they've scored three points in the first half in all three of their last three games, the games Jake Browning starts. That you don't win an NFL game scoring three and a half.

Starting point is 00:04:26 It's really shocking to me that they didn't actually make a move at quarterback this week. Not that I think Brett Rippin is going to be better per se, but the way Browning was playing, the way he was processing, the way he left the ball inside or short or whatever it was often. And not even on just interceptions, even on one of the early plays of the game, I like some of their design early in the game. Some of the naked bootleg stuff they were doing early in this game was getting guys open, that the play action game was affecting the linebackers because of the way

Starting point is 00:04:58 they were running it this week, at least again early in the game. Think of the Jamar Chase catch early in the game in space, picks up a first down, and then think of the throw to T. Higgins. Very similar concept. This time Aidan Hutchinson bearing down, so a little bit of pressure, but you're going to have that on naked bootlegs. There's time for Browning to get the ball off. There's time for him to lead T toward the sidelines so he can make an easy catch for, you know, 15 yards or so, but instead, fall behind. T tries to high point it and good play from the Lions' defensive back to get a hand between T's hands and break it up as T's going to the ground.

Starting point is 00:05:35 But that's just another example of a play that doesn't necessarily lead to an interception, but it's just, man, if the accuracy is a little bit better, if the timing is a little bit better, if there's any anticipation to Jake Browning's game, when you're saying he has to see the guy open, to me, one of the big criticisms with Browning watching live this week on film review this week, watching last week is there's just no anticipation

Starting point is 00:05:57 to his game. There are a number of plays where he hits his back foot and if he can throw with anticipation, he's going to have a guy open in the window that is designed for the guy to be open in, but instead it's not exactly perfect. It's not exactly

Starting point is 00:06:13 how he wants it to look. So he kind of comes off that play or breaks down in the pocket, becomes a runner, drops his eyes, drops his posture. And when you have that combined with some of the predetermined reads, which is still a problem in this game, you get a totally ineffective pass. And you mentioned that played a T later on,

Starting point is 00:06:34 and the broadcast point this went out too. I mean, the Lions run will look like some version of cover two. And T is on the safety, and the safety is outside. And if Jake Browning, all the room in the world, if you think about what cover two would be, one safety on the other side of the field, nobody else is deep over there. It's T one-on-one with this guy,

Starting point is 00:06:53 and Jake Browding throws it towards the defensive backs leverage instead of away from the leverage, giving T a chance to make the play. It's like T didn't come down with it. But the thing about 50-50 balls, isn't like every ball that's in the air is a true 50-50? Can the quarterback put it at the right leverage? Can you hit it at the right time where they have a chance?

Starting point is 00:07:12 You see us all the time on those back-shoulder fades. That back-shoulder fade works so well because the defensive backs on top of them. If the defense back's under, you got to throw it over the top. And I think Brown is misreading some leverage quite a bit because on that fourth down, that the Bengals kind of got bailed out a little bit by a DPI call. They run a play called Raven, and that's a pick and a wheel route, basically, a rail route from the number two. Number two here is Keseki.

Starting point is 00:07:34 And the defensive back goes underneath of it. So throw it over the top, throw it over the top and give him space to run. This could have been an explosive. And instead, Browning threw it behind him. And if the DB was in phase, like, he, could have made a play on that ball, but instead he's chasing Gaseki and ends up not making any play on the ball, head face in the wrong way. And a weird DPI call. That was a play where also there was pre-snap communication

Starting point is 00:08:00 where Jake Browning's trying to communicate something to Gosecchi. Gaseki kind of shrugs back at him like, what? And then they look like they're miscommunicating when the ball goes to Gosecchi on that play. But it looks to me, at least from the play, like it looks like Gaseki ran the right route. It looks like Browning made the mistake, if anybody did. Right, maybe because Browning is trying to tell Gaseki like, hey, this is what, like, same route, but we're going to approach a different level's my thought. Like maybe, maybe. This is me telling you I'm going to go back shoulder here and Gaseki is like, what?

Starting point is 00:08:30 At one point, Browning also, he points at his own helmet and calls a quarterback draw and it goes for three yards. I thought that was a funny communication. Let's say on this offense, Mike, the offensive line I think is going to be a hot topic again this week. It wasn't so great in the second half, but I thought they were adequate at least early on, and this is dealing with a couple really good end pass rushers for the Detroit Lions. So we'll discuss a little bit more on this offense before we transition. And talk about the defense where it wasn't perfect. And I have serious qualms with the way they came out on the first drive, two drives of the game or so.

Starting point is 00:09:09 But there are reasons to feel like there were some signs of progress. And it's a really good offense, like I said, for the Lions. well eventually get to some positives, some nitpicks as well on the defensive side of the ball, some adjustments she would like to see them make a little bit faster. But some size of life from that defense, we'll get to that topic after we finish the offense coming up next. We're brought to you today here on Lockdown Bengals by prize picks. Every day we make decisions, but on prize picks, being right can actually get you paid. Don't miss the excitement of this football season with prize picks where it's good to be right and it's daily fantasy done right.

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Starting point is 00:10:55 especially with the way they're passing the ball. Samajai P. Ryan, I think a guy they trust a little bit more in that third down back, pass-protecting back role, even though I think Chase Brown was really good at it last year and took strides in that area. Samaj also may be a little bit more effective as a runner in this particular game, but the run blocking, I think, still leaves a lot to be desired in general. I don't think we're going to talk much about that this week. It really wasn't a point of emphasis, like I said. But I thought that early on, the pass protection was adequate. There are a number of opportunities, like I said, where Jake Browning hits his back foot, he's got a pocket. If you can throw with anticipation or even just throw on time, the concepts that they're calling in the passing game seem to have guys open, seem to have guys open when they should be open, where they should be open.

Starting point is 00:11:44 What did you think of the pass pro on rewatch? there are a lot of people picking on, you know, Orlando Brown for the flea flicker sack or Dylan Fairchild for the safety, neither of which were good plays. But outside of that, there's a whole game to talk about. What were your thoughts on the offensive line? I was pretty encouraged by that first half when they were able to play in a true like mixed down approach. First down could be run or pass versus the second half. It's all passing. I mean, they've run it once in a while. But at that point, Detroit's selling out to stop the pass. I thought Detroit actually, surprisingly, through the first four weeks, they were kind of a defense I wanted to stop the run and force third and longs.

Starting point is 00:12:23 And against the Bengals, they kind of took the approach of, we're going to try to slow down this passing attack and keep safeties back versus trying to put a safety into the fit and force them to beat them over the top. So they kind of played the offense, not the quarterback. And I was pretty encouraged by the first half. I think it was good pass protection. I don't even just say like adequate. I thought that was pretty good. Like there are moments, of course. But you're facing Aidan Hutchinson, which is a really good rusher.

Starting point is 00:12:52 And maybe I'm just a Stockholm syndrome from watching this particular team. But this is whether better pass. Like I think if Joe Burrow was back there, I don't know if we would, if people would have the same complaints about the offensive line. Because the ball would be out, the ball. And if he did extend the play, he would extend hopefully, at least to the right way or would get the ball. out or would do things to protect this offensive line as well. But considering the situation, the opponent, I thought it was pretty good past protection. I thought they handled stunts.

Starting point is 00:13:24 That was impressive on the island, the two-man island that Paul Alexander in one of his clinics calls the Gilligan. There's your clinic drop. The Gilligan, when the center slides the opposite way, and you're two on two, and they're running a stunt, you have no help. Jalen Rivers and Amarius Mims passed that stunt multiple times. And I could think just last week they weren't doing that. Like I think I was on here saying like, damn,

Starting point is 00:13:47 the communication wasn't very good between those two. This week it was. So I was a little bit impressed by this offense flying early. And it wasn't so good late. You go look at PFF right now as you're listening to this. You're probably already seeing PFF grades as you're listening to this. If you're a hardcore Bengals fan who's here for the Monday film takes from a third straight blowout loss, respect to you checking us out here today.

Starting point is 00:14:10 But you look at that. You see, oh, they gave up. 20 pressures, all of them were the offensive line. Dylan Fairchild gave up five pressures. Cairas gave up three pressures from center. Orlando Brown gave up six pressures in the sack. Obviously, I talked about the Dylan Fairchild safety as well. Jalen Rivers gave up four pressures,

Starting point is 00:14:24 and Marty Swins only gave up two. But he had a clean loss against an Aidan Hutchinson spin move, negated by a neutral zone infraction by Aidan Hutchinson. So, you know, if you want to be nitpicky, if you want to look at it through a negative lens, you can certainly find all those things. But as I was watching, the box score live in this game, Jake Browning ends up pressure according to PFF on 40% of his dropback.

Starting point is 00:14:48 That number was much, much lower in the first half. And it did devolve when they became a no mixdowns were dropping back 100% of the time, blah, blah, blah. But it was, like you said, whether it's adequate or good, whatever your perception is of how this offensive line played early, it gave them a chance on offense. And I think the most frustrating thing about it is the, yeah, Joe Burroughs playing in this game, I think they cut the lines up.

Starting point is 00:15:20 The Lions probably have a different approach. They probably go for a lot of those fourth downs that they punt on. They probably have an entirely different game plan to deal with Joe Burrow versus Jake Browning. But I think the way the offensive line played, the way they called the game, the way there were guys getting open against the suspect secondary, Joe Burrow sees it, plays with anticipation, plays with accuracy, plays with timing, plays with processing. And obviously there's a golf between Burrow and Browning,

Starting point is 00:15:47 but Browning just not even close, not close to good enough in this game. The defense gave them chances, though, early, Mike. They were frustrating to start the game. Even though the driver, Trey Hendrickson eventually gets the strip sack, I was still very frustrated as I was re-watching that one on tape in terms of the way they're calling it early. So let's get this out of the way.

Starting point is 00:16:09 We'll finish the show on a positive note. We'll finish the show with the good things from the defense. But, man, I know everyone's talking about it this week, maybe because it was more blatant early, maybe because they're not coming on replacement pressures, maybe because they're putting five defensive linemen on the field. But they approach at the start of this game. As I pointed out on social media,

Starting point is 00:16:27 I think we talked about it on yesterday's show as well, was they started the game with five defensive linemen. They're answering Detroit's 12 personnel by putting an extra defensive tackle on the field, or in Berks on the field of linebacker. an interesting rotation at linebacker in this game. Logan Wilson played one of his worst games. I think as a Bengal, especially early when the game was in the balance,

Starting point is 00:16:45 missing tackles. I don't want to see him manned up on an athletic, good receiving tight end. That's a tough ask for Logan, but the tackling issues in the run game, tackling issues on the perimeter. But a lot of it was Joseph Osai dropping into coverage, KFSAB will drop it into coverage, and the Lions finding it every time the Bengals dropped and ended into coverage. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:08 that's how you're playing when you have five defensive linemen. Most coverages, cover two, cover three, cover four, whatever. They're going to have seven defenders in coverage. You only have so many resources. You've got five defensive line to stop the run, two linebackers, four defensive backs. Okay. You have six guys that are used to playing coverage. You have to figure out who that seventh one is going to be.

Starting point is 00:17:28 And I would personally hope that you don't make it the guy off the Achilles stare in Camp Sample. Like I just feel bad for it. My time they drop him specifically. But the other side, it's also their drop in Joseph Osseye. and he's covering Sam LaPorta. So it's not like it's really better when you get the more athletic guy doing it. They don't really have the horses to be trying to do that.

Starting point is 00:17:46 And they didn't really with Lou either. He liked to run these five defensive line fronts because they're both on one hand, they want the big defensive end for their nickel so that they get a guy that can reduce down and take on double teams and defend the run. But on the other hand, they also want to drop that guy in coverage. Now there's a very few, very small group of athletes that would be pretty good. good in coverage and also be 270 pounds as a defensive end. So the overlap isn't really working out for what they want to do on the first couple drives. And I think that's why they also

Starting point is 00:18:18 stop doing it after the first couple of drives. They moved back into the four-down world and they just reduced a guy down when they got 12 like a wing look. But yeah, early, they tried to change that and they got picked on. They also had a great matchup with the Lions left tackle. Taylor Decker didn't play Giovanni Manu out there, left tackle in the game. And the Lions, to their credit, did what they could to dictate, you know, on film, Trey Hendrickson is not reducing. He's not playing to the strong side of the offensive formation. So by putting the strong side of the formation on the backup left tackle side,

Starting point is 00:18:51 they're getting Trey in the matchup with Pena Sewell, who was really good in this game, I thought. And so you end up with Trey going against your strength in pass protection. You have a lot of help for your left tackle who's not very good. David Montgomery was generally awesome in pass protection. this game for the Lions as well. So despite the early drive issues and despite the overall points allowed, 14 points that had drive starting at the 17 and 28-yard line for the Lions didn't have

Starting point is 00:19:21 very far to go. Two points on the safety. Only 21 points allowed by this defense against a really good offense, like I said. And maybe a lot of this is Dan Campbell punting on some fourth downs where normally he wouldn't punt. But there's a lot of potential positives and maybe we're grasped. thing here. But glimmers of hope, signs of progress, whatever you want

Starting point is 00:19:42 to call it on this defensive side of the ball. We'll finish the show on a high note on this defense coming up next. Today we're brought to you by Mazda here on Locked on Bengals. And those of you who have been watching this show for the last few weeks know that I, in fact, drive a Mazda car. I like to hold up my Mazda keys

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Starting point is 00:21:11 of times, keeping the game to 14 offensive points for the Detroit Lions in that first half before Jake Browning through interceptions early in drives deep in his own territory, and the defense just couldn't hold up and the wheels started to come off in the second half. But we had a stunt work and get Miles Murphy freed up for a sack in this game. We had Trey Hendrickson productive against bad tackles and pressuring Jared Gough. We only had 23 dropbacks, but was pressured on roughly 30 percent of them. according to PFF charting. We had some good run defense,

Starting point is 00:21:45 especially early from T.J. Slayton. We had some really good run plays early from B.J. Hill as well, a number of players on this defense. DJ Turner pass break up on Amin Rae St. Brown. Creating plays, getting off the field early, giving the offense a chance, which is why we kept saying, like, man, yeah, if they had a quarterback that could do something early in this game,

Starting point is 00:22:06 they had opportunities. They were getting the ball back without being in this massive hole early. The first couple of drives aside, what were the things you'd like? What were the adjustments you'd like from Al Golden's defense this week? The adjustment of moving back into their four-down type of personnel groupings for defensive linemen. And then when they went basically, go three linebackers. And at times, they still play the same fronts. They would still bring in maybe even bigger bodies and play some of those odd fronts that they wanted to play

Starting point is 00:22:37 when they had the five defensive linemen in there. But they just moved Orenberg's, Demetrius, N, and they just moved. Orrin-Berkes, Dmitrius, Knight, Barrett Carter, like one of the linebackers up to the end position. And so, and now, yes, it's a tell on who's probably going to drop if they play coverage, but you're dropping a guy who plays coverage in practices. Like the amount of practice that Cam Sample probably does in coverage is probably not much more than the amount of practice that you and I do dropping into zones on our daily, we daily routine. So it's not going to be very high.

Starting point is 00:23:11 I like that change, obviously. I like that they did just reduce tray down against the left side and just like, okay, this is how we're going to get the situation where we get him over Manu. Because otherwise, when they just go tight end to that side, they know the Bengals will move tray over the right side and they like that matchup. Penae Sewell did a good job in this game, excellent job, really, overall. I think third downs were interesting. It's a little inflated because it includes a third down, you know, kneel and a run on like third and 14 late in the game because the lines just, you know, fourth quarter, they weren't, at least on offense.

Starting point is 00:23:52 They were not, you know, calling up some big beaters and trying to pick up these third downs. But early in the game, in the first half, I'd say through the first three quarters, they were trying to pick up first downs on third down. And the Bengals played it pretty well. I thought that's when they kind of emptied the Rolodex. So they got some stops in those situations. You had an invert cover two. It seemed like they tried to mess with Jared Gough a bit,

Starting point is 00:24:21 where twice they ran an invert cover two. They ran a bizarre two roll where they ran a cat blitz, the corner blitz off of the end. That one got picked up. But then they also, from the same pre-snap looks, looked into just playing three buzz, just having the safety stay there and just play a buzz, the hook zone, and the backer played the support of them flat.

Starting point is 00:24:48 And they also played this hot coverage, which I haven't seen them run, which is a six-man pressure with zone behind it. So you had five zone defenders and six guys rushing the pass. This is a ball that gets broken up by Demetrius Knight. They brought everybody it looked like, but it wasn't zero. They played three deep, two under hot coverage, which is a zone of, sorts where they just get guys into windows common windows that he's going to hit and trying to play off his eyes the ball and the routes in front of them and that worked really well and i hadn't

Starting point is 00:25:20 seen him do that in for the bengals so far but i did see out golden run that a couple of times as like a funky third down look in college so finally kind of bringing that out there and it worked i wonder if you'll see it again i think one of the things that i liked in this game and again that the Bengals were behind the entire game is that they found a pass rush against the lions in a way that we haven't seen the lions get got like that in the past rush. They had gone since Green Bay in week one, which was a really ugly game for Detroit. And Green Bay looks like a real contender. And everyone's like, ah, they lost their coaches.

Starting point is 00:25:56 Maybe Detroit is just washed from the brain drain. Gave up four sacks in that game. Three straight weeks against Chicago, against Baltimore, against Cleveland. Cleveland is pretty impressive to me to give up zero sacks. against Cleveland. And there were pressures in that game for sure. He was pressure Jared Gough was on 12 of his 27 dropbacks against the Bengals. He was pressured on just nine of his 27 dropbacks, but got home for four sacks, did the Bengals in this game. And we've been complaining about the pass rush all year. It's been a problem. And I don't think it was great

Starting point is 00:26:32 or anything in this game. But when you get pressure on 33-ish percent of Jared Gough's dropbacks in a play action heavy scheme that slows you down. And Detroit's play action was very effective, I think, in slowing down the pass rush on a couple of plays in this game, with a great pass protecting back in David Montgomery, who was great in pass protection in this game. I think you chalked that up as a win for the Bengals in some capacity. You know, you get pressure home, you get the sacks.

Starting point is 00:26:59 And that's a positive as well. I think DJ Turner's play of late has been a positive as well. And so now it's, okay, how do we find those adjustments earlier in the game? How do we get out of these things? Like, they come into the game with these ideas, and it feels like they're outsmarting themselves a little bit on some of the scripted drives at times. And some of the stuff where they're dropping ends into coverage, some of the replacement pressures that we've talked about don't seem to be fooling everyone, anyone.

Starting point is 00:27:25 So it's nice to hear also you're talking about them finding ways to get some deception that is actually causing the quarterback to take that extra beat this week. Yeah, there was one that one to roll. is a replacing pressure. But other than that one, we're all good. No replacement pressures, really. And they picked up the first down on that one. But one is instead of it being your primary pressure package, it's different.

Starting point is 00:27:49 The thing about simulated pressures and replacement pressures is you also have to send the house once in a while, because otherwise, offense isn't going to respect it. If you line up and you look like you're going to blitz everybody, but you only ever send four, why as an offense would we like move to like some max protect or a situation where like you see the bangles do all the time move the running back up okay we got to account for absolutely everybody right here and instead like a lot of teams will just go like yeah you're dropping like you have to send it you have to send it once in a while so it was nice to see them finally send it and the lions were not ready they were not ready for that for that three deep two under hot coverage

Starting point is 00:28:27 like two guys came free because i think actually ratledge might have messed up a little bit. BJ Hill, right down the middle, and then Demetrius Knight off the edge, neither one got picked up. And I think it was kind of one of those, you've seen it the whole game too, or they get in these looks, but they're not common. We've seen it on film. They're not going to come out of these looks.

Starting point is 00:28:46 They're going to find a way to send four. So let's just pick up the four they send. Then when they send everybody, like, oh, oh, no, the alarms are going off. We've trained for this, but we weren't really prepared for it in this week. Yeah, some tendency beaters. But a lot of what this seems, I don't know, I keep skewing negative just because it was such a bad loss. And I think that like that is the overall tenor that we need to come away from that game with, despite there being some signs of encouragement and some good adjustments from the defense,

Starting point is 00:29:16 the deception needs to be more consistent. I forget what the point I was going to make when I started this tangent. But it was nice to see some progress from a number of players, some guys playing all in the front. interesting linebacker rotation in this game. Demetrius Knight, 36 snaps, Barrett Carter, 33 snaps. Logan Wilson played the entire game, and Orrin Berks played a handful of snaps as well, most of which were on the first couple drives, 13 snaps for Orrin Berks in this game. So some interesting stuff as they shake up linebacker,

Starting point is 00:29:48 try to get Barrett Carter on the field a little bit more. And it's coming, I guess, this week at the expense of Demetrius Knight. And we'll see next week as they continue really to try to find the personnel packages is that they like best on that side of the ball and continue to rotate guys throughout the game. The other guy that was barely active, active for the first time this year, McKinley Jackson, McInley Jackson,

Starting point is 00:30:14 three snaps for Josh Newton in this game, 13 snaps from Miles Murphy, just some of the lower snap count numbers that I find interesting on the defensive side of the ball is they're trying to find a way forward, and it doesn't get too much easier. Green Bay, week six coming up. and dealing with all those problems.

Starting point is 00:30:32 Mike, appreciate the time and insight into this week's Bengals blowout film. Hopefully, we don't have to talk about blowouts all season. It would be nice to talk about a real competitive football game. We'll see what moves the Bengals make or don't make. This week we'll have you covered right here on Lockdown Bengals for the rest of the week leading into the trip to Green Bay. Until then, find Mike on Twitter at Bengals underscore Sands. find his writing over at bengels talk.com.

Starting point is 00:31:01 I appreciate you listening to this episode of the Lockdown Bengals podcast. Until next time, thanks for listening and have a good one.

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