Locked On Bengals - Daily Podcast On The Cincinnati Bengals - BATTLE OF OHIO | Can Bengals Keep Myles Garrett OUT of the Record Book?

Starting point is 00:00:01 The Bengals are hoping to win their third straight game to end the season. Miles Garrett is looking to take down Joe Burrow and set the NFL sack record. We break it all down right now on Locked on Bengals and Locked on Browns. You are Locked on NFL crossover. Part of the Locked on podcast network. Your team every day. Hi again, everyone. And welcome in to the Lockdown Bengals and Locked on Browns podcast.

Starting point is 00:00:34 A special Week 18 battle of Ohio. crossover here on the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. Shout out to you for making the Lockdown Podcast Network, the number one sports podcast network on the planet. We appreciate each and every one of you for listening, watching, and supporting us, and this crossover is presented by prize picks. Download the price picks out today. Use code Lockdown NFL and get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. I'm James Rapine of Lockdown Bengals. He's Spencer German of Lockdown Browns and Spencer, well, I think I know the biggest story in Cleveland when it comes to these Browns. Maybe I'm way off right now. Maybe I'm way off. Maybe it's about winning the game or

Starting point is 00:01:18 who knows, maybe it's about coaching searches. But what is the biggest story right now is we are just days away from round two of the Battle of Ohio? Yeah, you know, it's kind of funny because you're alluding to it. I think you're right that it is Miles Garrett's pursuit of the sack record. in most years, you know, if this wasn't a thing that was possible, I think we would be talking more heavily about, hey, what's going to happen to Kevin Siffansky on the other side of this game? Is he fired within four hours of the game or do they wait until Monday morning or is he just coming back?

Starting point is 00:01:48 And, you know, is Shador Sanders the, the for sure quarterback for this team in 2026? And those are still two major storylines for this team as the season kind of concludes here that they're going to have to sort of provide answers to throughout the offseason. But yes, I do think that from a matchup standpoint, from an on-the-field standpoint, the first thing everyone's talking about is Miles Garrett's pursuit of this sack record and trying to get it done in Week 18, which I know is going to come with an asterisk for a lot of people if he does, because there's Michael Strayhan who did it in 16 games. There's T.J. Watt who did it in 15 games, I believe it was, because he was injured for one.

Starting point is 00:02:26 And Miles is now trying to get it done with sort of that extra game on the schedule. I do think, though, on the heels of what the Steelers did last week, which it felt like they were more worried about Miles getting the sack record than trying to run like a competent offense at times, it does feel like a matchup with the Bengals, which has always seemed to go in Miles Garrett's favor. He's got in he's sacked Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson more than any other quarterbacks that he's played.

Starting point is 00:02:52 Thanks for that. Appreciate it. It is a situation where maybe he can actually get this thing done and not only get it done because the only way he can go out now, especially people talking about like does it have an asterisk is getting multiple sacks like he needs to now shatter the record not just get like one and be like all right i got a half sack more than these other guys if he gets like two or three i think that's the ultimate send off that he can sort of finish this season on for the browns yeah i appreciate you painting that picture because it's the picture i've thought of really from the moment the bengals got eliminated and look this this bengal's offense is cooking

Starting point is 00:03:24 i just wrote a story and i'll pull up the numbers as we record here It's wild to look at this offense and in how they've performed over the past. They've outscored opponents 82 to 35 over the past two games. And I get it. It's the Dolphins and the Cardinals. Still NFL teams. Joe Burrow, 4963 for 614 yards. It's a 77% completion percentage, six touchdowns, no interceptions.

Starting point is 00:03:50 And yet I'm going into this game and I'm thinking of one, Miles Garrett, who Zach Taylor calls the best defensive player on the planet. I agree with him. Two, I agree that the Browns have been a thorn. Miles Garrett specifically is obviously a big reason why. Just a thorn in the side of this Bengals offense. And so if there was ever a game one, you could go one side and say, don't play Joe Burrow. And I think there's a real argument there.

Starting point is 00:04:16 That goes out the door because we know that's happening. He's going to play. The other one is, well, you have something to prove Bengals offense after just squeaking by Joe Flacco in the Browns week one. 17 to 16 and one of the ugliest games you'll ever see where it was just ugly on on both sides and really the browns had every chance of winning that game because of their defense it's uh there there is something here where it's like all right well if they are playing everyone i want to see this offense i want to see zach taylor i want to see these guys be able to go up against miles garrett and mason graham

Starting point is 00:04:50 and that defense so front and really that entire defense and have success so that that's where I'm at. I think that's the biggest storyline for me is okay, well, we all know about the sack record. Everybody's going to be thinking about it, talking about it, Joe's going to get asked about it on Wednesday. Like all these things are going to happen. What does this revamped Bengals offensive line that's been pretty good? How did they handle Miles? And then we know he's an alien. Does he wreck the game on record breaking day and get not one, not two, not three, not four? Does that happen? Or on the other side, can this Bengals offense to operate the way it's done over the past few weeks

Starting point is 00:05:33 and put up 30 plus points and find a way for their third straight win. Yeah, you know, it's funny. As you talked through that, I was thinking about the quote from Mike Tomlin on Tuesday this week, where he was reflecting a little bit on the loss of the Browns this past weekend. And he said flatly, like, of any unit, offense or defense in this division, he said the Brown's defense is number one with a bullet. Like that that unit is the best unit that any team in this division boasts on either side of the ball. And what I think it's interesting is at least as far as he said that, he did.

Starting point is 00:06:11 And as far as this year is concerned, what I think is interesting about that line is he's probably right to an extent. Like there's a very valid case we made that the bronze defense is the best unit in this division. But I think the units are going up against this weekend in the Bengals offense. if it's not the if it's not number one across the board for a unit from a unit standpoint, I think the Bengals do have the best offense in the division, which is funny because these are the two teams that are third and fourth in the division overall and they have the two best units arguably in this division. So I find that kind of interesting.

Starting point is 00:06:44 And that's the collision course that we're kind of getting here. It's Joe Burrough versus Kyle's Gary, yes, but it's a really good Brown's defense against an elite, you know, Bengals' offense with so many weapons to account for. and who kind of comes out on top to finish the season with a win. Yeah, it's a really good point. And I want to note now, Mike Tomlin saw Joe Flacco twice. And so he may forget.

Starting point is 00:07:09 He may forget. Like the Browns may have the Bengals number a little bit as far as defensively being able to slow them down. But the Steelers sure is heck no. When it comes to Joe Burrow and company. So, yeah, I think, man, that's an interesting. quote, I agree they're probably the two best units. You combine the Ohio teams and you have the best team in the NFL, right? I think that's what makes this interesting.

Starting point is 00:07:36 Is the sack record itself, I wouldn't put an asterisk by it because Miles Garrett is better. Man, Bengals fans are going to hate this. Better than Michael Strehan. I was there. I remember watching the sack record happen. Watch that. He's better than T.J. Watts. Steelers fans are going to hate it, but guess what?

Starting point is 00:07:52 It's really not close. it's really not close like even before this season it's not like if you asked objective NFL personnel which I cover the Bengals guess who I can ask they don't have a dog in the fight between T.J. Watt and Miles Garrett pretty easy for me to find

Starting point is 00:08:07 objective people when it comes to that NFL people believe that Miles Garrett is just on another level and I do too so yeah I think that go ahead. I was going to say what's funny about that too is like even a few years ago probably before Miles won defensive player of the year I might have said TJ

Starting point is 00:08:23 if you asked me, like, who would you take out of these two? There was a point where I would have taken T.J. And the reason was, James, because it seemed like T.J. was always making, like, the game-changing play in the biggest moments. Like, I think that was very true about him, like, early on his career. And Miles didn't have as many of those moments. But I think probably around, like, 2022. And then obviously, in 2023, Miles wins the, the defensive player of the year award. The last three to four years, I've changed that, that perspective of a,

Starting point is 00:08:53 totally and it is without question like miles is it and the fact that he's also he's gotten older and he's gotten better it seems and tj's kind of had some ups and downs you know there were some stats last year people were throwing out there about like his play decline and then this year he's been sort of in and out of line of some things with the injuries so yeah i think that's very true i we've now turned this into like a uh a stealers and and brown's crossover talking about these two guys but um it is the biggest storyline today other than the things that you laid out like what happens with Kevin Sofansky on Monday. And I actually wonder like on the flip side of things for your,

Starting point is 00:09:25 from your guy's angle and this is something we can get into, what happens with Zach Taylor on Monday? Is he totally safe in all this after the bank was put up another disappointing season? So I think that kind of is another interesting storyline from this one for sure. Yeah, it is. And it's one that we can address. We can also get into some key matchups. How do they slow down Miles Garrett?

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Starting point is 00:10:43 Again, that's Robinhood.com slash your money, your move with Robinhood.com slash your money. All right, Spencer. Let's continue the conversation here. Zach Taylor's safe. he will be back next year. That's happening. I think there are a lot of people we talked about it earlier in the week would want him out and whether or not I would or not. I lean towards yes for sure, but I know he's coming back. And so it's just kind of like, all right, I do think it's more up in the air in Cleveland. What say you? You think Kevin Stefanski's coaching the Browns in a week? Yeah. So I find this

Starting point is 00:11:20 to be a fascinating argument and you obviously spent some, or a conversation and you obviously spent some time in Cleveland so you know how unpredictable, you know, that the Haslums can be as an ownership group in terms of the decisions that they make. And I want to be clear, like, I think Jimmy Haslam has really tried recently to sort of dispel the notion that he makes these gut reaction, emotional decisions, and that one game here or there isn't going to, like, sway his decision one way or another. And, but at the same time, I think he's looking for a reason to keep this thing intact, because we know what he said in the offseason. we know he called the Deshaun thing of swing and a miss and that he talks about very glowingly this regime and that he trusts these guys and he thinks the right people are in place.

Starting point is 00:12:02 So if that's true, like I think he wants a reason to keep them, but I think it's hard to deny that there are significant issues with this roster and there's significant issues with this team right now that probably means somebody or something needs to change here. Now, I subscribe to the idea that if you move on from Kevin Stefansky, I don't think that. it's fair to just stop there. I think it's either you keep them both and you sort of go against what all the fans, not all the fan base, but what a lot of the fan base is saying should happen, which is, you know, get rid of Stafansky, I'm done. You either keep both and sort of digging and say, guys, we're going to see this through. I believe in these guys. And, you know, that might be an unpopular opinion, but it's your opinion and you're the owner of the team. So you get final say. Or I think you have to move on from both. Because to me, yes, there was, there's been issues this

Starting point is 00:12:51 year. And I look around this league and I see teams that are limited in terms of the resources that they have on a roster and they're finding ways to win football games more so than the Browns are. And listen, like, there's other issues. Special teams has been brutal. And week over week, it's like we got to correct these things and then they're not getting corrected. I don't know where you probably start blame there with like the special teams coordinator, Bobaventrown, but it also goes to the top. It's the head coach, right? Like those things just aren't getting better. So there's been issues from that standpoint. But I don't know how it all falls on Kevin Stfansky's lap either when he also has been given sort of bad ingredients here to put this

Starting point is 00:13:26 recipe together and that starts with the GM and the person who's building the roster. So to me it's either all or nothing. There's no like splitting the difference here and getting rid of one and keeping the other. But I honestly think that's what could play out either the hours after Sunday's matchup against the Bengals here or come Monday morning when they decide ultimately to make a change. We'll see. And maybe the thing that saves Andrew Barry is this draft class that he does. just had. But that's my stance on it is like, I think it's probably time to change something.

Starting point is 00:13:55 And if you're going to change one thing, it probably has to be both because I think it's all kind of gotten rotten to this point. Well, the problem is, is if you do one, not the other, than a year from now, if things don't go well. Yeah. And then you know, then you're doing the other. And we've seen that. Brian Cowahan, former Bengals offensive coordinator that happened to him in Tennessee. The GM gets fired one year after he's there. It's over, man. Like the moment that happen. I was like, man, he's on the hot seat right now. And obviously they had the number one pick last year. And that's just how the NFL works. And it can, it is a cold business if you don't win. Look, I, if I'm the Browns, I don't think Kevin Stefansky's earned another quarterback.

Starting point is 00:14:36 Put it that way. And so if you're going and getting number one or number two, like if you're trading that Jacksonville pick and another pick and doing that, I don't know if I'm handing him to Kevin Stefanski. If you are, then you do got to be all in. It can't just be a one-year, thing where because then it's the Baker thing where you have one quarterback coach or one and then it's another and then it's another and suddenly he's in year three and he's had three different systems and all of the things that that happened with with Baker which obviously was a good pick and he's a good quarterback. And this is why this is why James like this game I talked about Jimmy Azam trying to make like

Starting point is 00:15:14 the gut reaction decisions but like if the Browns finished this season with two straight wins over division rivals. He may add a comment during training camp about like it needs to be more than three wins this year. How literally you want to take that? Like, hey, it's four wins enough. It's five wins enough. I get it. But, you know, like that that would be sort of a stronger finish to the season where it's like, hey, these guys are still playing for this coach. And maybe that's enough to sort of convince him to keep everybody around, even if that goes against, you know, the prevailing maybe thoughts here in Cleveland that they should do that and it just means they're all in the hot seat next year. So that's one of the interesting sort of narratives and backdrops to all this this weekend is, you know,

Starting point is 00:15:53 does Kevin Savansky have any chance of saving his job? Because it does sound like at the very least, that's very much on the table after Sunday. Yeah. And by the way, if you beat Joe Burrow after beating the Steelers, when the Steelers got a win to clinch the division and had every reason to win, it's a pretty good couple of weeks if you're going to end things. So yeah, I think that that's it. And the matchups in this one, let's just quickly get to those. I mean, it does start, it starts with Joe Burrow and Miles Garrett,

Starting point is 00:16:21 how the Bengals can try to keep Joe Burrow upright, give Miles Garrett all the attention that he deserves and earns. And can Joe get the ball out quick enough? Can these weapons get open so he's getting the ball out to not let 95 wreck the game? I think that's such a huge factor here in what happens in the outcome. Because if you're painting the path to the Brown's winning, it starts there

Starting point is 00:16:45 and then there's a few other things that happen but it really starts there and if you're painting a path for the Bengals to control this game from the jump while it's putting Joe Burrow in position to do what he's done over the past couple of weeks where he's had time and he's thrown from a clean pocket and even if he's got to get it out a little quicker this week

Starting point is 00:17:02 I think he'd be more than willing to do that if it means staying upright. Yeah and honestly you know I think the Steelers probably provided a little bit of a blueprint of that this past weekend in terms of getting the ball quickly. Now, you got to make better decisions than Air Rogers did. He was trying to throw fourth and one fades to, you know, Scotty Miller in the end zone for whatever reason. And so I don't know that he was necessarily making the right plays.

Starting point is 00:17:25 But his priority was, I'm getting rid of this ball so Miles Garrett doesn't have a chance to wreck it. And we know that that's what Joe Burroughs sort of strives to do. It still has led to a lot of sacks over the years of Miles kind of getting to him. But certainly, like, you know, week over week, I probably sound like a broken record to those who listen to these crossovers. because I do start every single one of these matchup conversations with, it's always about Miles Garrett on the Brown side of things and how the opposing team is going to sort of,

Starting point is 00:17:50 you know, buck against them and try to slow him down. And that's what every week kind of becomes for the Browns anyway because he's obviously their best player. I think on the opposite side of things, I'm fascinated to see, you know, Shador Sanders gets kind of one last hurrah here in 2025 to try to convince the Browns,

Starting point is 00:18:08 hey, I'm the guy you can bank on as, the starting quarterback for this team in 2026. He's had a six game stretch years. This will make seven straight games where he started under center. And against the Bengals defense that, you know, we know has been just really dreadful this year. He's going to have some opportunities to make some plays. Can he do enough of those in out duel maybe a Joe Burrow? That's the big question. I think everybody has. Can he send this thing into the offseason on like a really, really high note where he puts up this great passing game, doesn't turn the ball over at all, and leads the Browns to a win, or at least a competitive game to end the season. I think that's what

Starting point is 00:18:48 he's kind of looking to accomplish here. And it's going to be interesting too, because, you know, this is the Bengals' first time going against Shador Sanders. They obviously face Joe Flacco, who's now on the opposite team this week in week one. They didn't get a chance to play Dylan Gabriel at all. And now they get to see Shudor Sanders for the first time. So how do the Bengals try to maybe confuse him or show him some different things? that he hasn't seen just yet or attack him and how does Shador Sanders come out and perform against a Bengals

Starting point is 00:19:14 defense that certainly is susceptible to some bigger plays. Yeah, it's the Bengals defense has been better, but to your point, they're far from perfect. And if you're the Browns, you want to establish the run, that was a big thing that didn't happen for the Cardinals. The Cardinals couldn't get the run game going.

Starting point is 00:19:33 The Bengals got out to an early lead. They had to throw it and it just kind of snowballed very quickly. This Bengals defense has been opportunistic in recent weeks, and they've forced some turnovers, and they've been able to do that. And so if they can do that early, I think that would be big. But yeah, Shador, has he done, well, we'll get to this on the other side.

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Starting point is 00:21:12 lineup. Let's go locked on NFL to get $50 in lineups. After you play your first $5 lineup prize picks, it's good to be right. All right, Spencer, real quick on Chador Sanders. How realistic do you think it is that he's their starting quarterback week one next season? It's a great question. I don't know if we want to do this in like percentages necessarily, but what I would say is this.

Starting point is 00:21:39 I think right now, especially given what last week's win over the Steelers does for the draft order, for where the bronze kind of fall in the draft order at this point. Right now they'd pick sixth. They can't go any lower or higher, depending on how you look at it than seventh. And they could get as high as two if everybody in front of them, except the Raiders, it doesn't matter, they can't catch the Raiders. But if everybody in front of them wins this weekend, then, yeah, then they would move up. They could still be the number two pick.

Starting point is 00:22:06 still be in position to draft a quarterback. But because of where they are, I'm guessing they probably end up in the top five, but not in position to maybe get a quarterback. And unless they trade up, and so understanding that, like, it does feel like right now plan A is probably,

Starting point is 00:22:22 all right. Well, and there's a lot that kind of goes into this too, because if they do clean house and its GM and coach are gone, that all bets are off then. I think then, like,

Starting point is 00:22:32 a new staff's going to come in and they're going to decide if they think Shador Sanders is worth a damn or not, and more than likely it probably decide we're going to do our own thing. So that's maybe the kicker here. But if it's at least one person from this regime is still here, if Andrew Berry is still here on Monday, I think that plan A probably is.

Starting point is 00:22:50 Yeah, let's roll it. Let's roll Shador Sanders out there and at least haven't been an open competition for the job. I think it's probably him in an open competition against, I don't know, a Mac Jones, Deshaun Watson still is probably going to be here on the roster. Maybe they try that for another time. Or they at least make a thing for a third. time. We'll see. But to me, that feels like probably what they end up doing because I just don't know if it's going to be in their in their purview to want to trade up and try to get one of the

Starting point is 00:23:17 quarterbacks in this class unless they fall in love with one. That's what has to be determined during the pre-draft process, of course. But I think right now I'm inclined to believe as long as somebody from this current regime is still here, that Shador Sanders will still be here with a chance to compete for the starting job. Shador Sanders for Kyla Murray, who says no, don't answer it. That is free content for you to dive into it later. Look, this Bengals team, they're trying to win three straight. And first things first, you've got to stop Miles Garrett and slow him down. I think he's going to get the sack record.

Starting point is 00:23:51 I've kind of already let my mind go there and allow that to happen. So anytime that gets brought up, I'm trying to prepare a lot on Bengals, listeners, and viewers for that. Anytime it gets brought up, it's going to show Miles sacking Joe Bro. If they somehow don't let that happen, good on them. but it's just a tough ask to do. Obviously, this Bengals team, they're going to play their offense. They're going to try to win this game.

Starting point is 00:24:12 There's not going to be questions of, were you more worried about Miles Garrett's sack record than them trying to win? No, they're going to go out there and try to win. And I know Joe Burrow feels that way. Obviously, Zach Taylor feels that way. So they're going to have to slow down Miles Garrett. And then it's get these weapons in space like they have. Jamar Chase continues to have a great year over 1,300 yards, had two touchdowns last week. Higgins for his second straight year. He's just a third Bengals receiver in team history,

Starting point is 00:24:40 joining Carl Pickens and AJ Green to have double-digit touchdowns in back-to-back years. If Jamar had three touchdowns Sunday, he would join him. I'm not sure that's realistic against the Browns. But you never know, not with Jamar Chase. You never know. So this offense, they're going to have to put up points early, get off to a quick start, try to get a lead. I think that's big. And then defensively, be opportunistic. Don't let Chodor Sanders get into a groove like he did against the Titans where he's had his best game is most productive game. And you also don't want him to be, I mean, 17 of 23. I get it. Two of those were interceptions. But that's pretty efficient. And if he's efficient like that,

Starting point is 00:25:19 that's going to go a long way, especially with the Bengals tackling issues that they've had. Yeah. Listen, I think you're right where everything sort of starts up front and with the Bengals ability to contain or limit Miles Garrett's ability to impact this game because we know the Bengals are going to want to throw the football, of course. I think on that defense side of the ball, though, too, for the Browns, how do they best limit the damage from Jamar Chase and T. Higgins in this game? Because both those guys are phenomenal receivers. We know that.

Starting point is 00:25:48 And, you know, we talked about this being the first time Shador Sanders gets to face the Bengals. This is also the Bengals first time facing Tyson Campbell opposite of Denzo Ward. And I actually think, like, that duo has become really, really stout. Like, there's been teams that have said, we're not going to throw Denzo's way. We're going to go to the opposite side. and they've even had a tough time throwing against him. So do the Browns kind of finally have this duo of corners that can maybe slow down both these guys

Starting point is 00:26:12 and make their lives a little bit harder? I'm curious to see that for sure. But on the offensive side of things, this Brown's offense has to be able to do what they did last week, which is play from a place of leverage against the Bengals and actually put up some points. If you fall behind early against this Bengals team, if it's like 14-0, I just don't know how you did.

Starting point is 00:26:32 I shouldn't say I don't know how, because, yes, the Bengals off defense could always give up some chunk plays late, and you could always get back into this thing. But playing from behind is not just something this team really can handle or do. They have to be able to have some success. You know, like if they get the ball early or take the ball early, score on that opening drive, put the Bengals in a spot where they have to throw the football. And then Miles can sort of pin his ear back and ears back and make some plays.

Starting point is 00:26:57 So, yeah, like when you're going up against an offense that can put up points the way the Bengals can, you need your offense to kind of come through and be able to kind of answer that bell. And we'll see what that kind of looks like. But sustaining drives and, you know, playing from a place of being ahead, I think it could be key in this one for sure for the Cleveland Browns. By the way, you brought up Burrow being on the sack record highlight. I kind of wonder like if Burrow, not that he's cool with it, but I think Burroughs like, he's such a different cat.

Starting point is 00:27:26 Like I wonder if he just, if he ends up being the guy on the highlight, if he's just kind of like, it's just, you know, because he's gotten sacked by Miles Garrett's sometimes and there's so much respect there. I almost wonder if he would just call. He would just say good play. Like I don't think it's going to bother him. I think it will bother fans. Because like, Josh Allen, a couple weeks ago was like, I don't want to be in other people's highlights. So no. But I can see Bro just being like, this is going to be, I'm going to get sack by Miles Garrett. I've been sack by him before. I'm going to get sack by him again. It's fine. He was his hundredth sack last year. Yeah. It's true. It's just, yeah, it's wild. It's wild. It's wild.

Starting point is 00:28:00 works but yeah i mean if miles just wants to stay in cincinnati there's there's no problem after sunday's game there's no problem with that uh that's that's that's probably some more interesting more free content yeah yeah you're welcome you are welcome uh no coaching search here you may have a coaching search a quarterback search check out locked on browns for more obviously on sunday's game have a happy new year by the way yes happy to everyone uh whether you're locked on bengles or locked on brown supporter We're going to have you cover. Jake and I are back on Thursday for Lacton Bengals listeners, Thursday evening, into Friday with your Friday show. And then Spencer has you covered as well. It's good to see you, my friend. I appreciate it. And man, the season flew by. I feel like we were just at the combine last year.

Starting point is 00:28:47 The season flew by. Combines right around the corner. It did, yes. I look forward to seeing on Sunday, my friend. And yeah, sooner or later, we'll be seeing each other at the combine, too. It's coming too. I didn't realize you were making the trip down 71. So we'll see it, Spencer, let's go, baby. Let's go. Thank you guys so much for listening and watching. Until next time, this has been a locked-on crossover on the lockdown podcast network.

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