Locked On Bengals - Daily Podcast On The Cincinnati Bengals - Is it weird that the Bengals do a one-day rookie camp? Plus, Seth McLaughlin heads up the UDFA class

Episode Date: May 11, 2025

The Cincinnati Bengals are the only team in the NFL to use just one day for their rookie minicamp. Jake Liscow and James Rapien discuss why the Bengals take that approach and the standouts from the rookies' first day on the field and in the locker room in Cincinnati. Plus, we get into this year's UDFA class that's led by Rimington Trophy winner, center Seth McLaughlin, who hopes to be in the mix for a roster spot coming off his Achilles injury at Ohio State last November. Join the Locked On Bengals Insider Community! https://joinsubtext.com/lockedonbengalsFind and follow Locked On Bengals on your favorite podcast platforms:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/locked-on-bengals-daily-podcast-on-the-cincinnati-bengals/id1159723162Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7AObc0lh0WmQl5fJVgtajsGoogle Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vbG9ja2Vkb25iZW5nYWxz?sa=X&ved=0CAYQrrcFahcKEwio_sXtj8nuAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAgStitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/locked-on-bengalsSupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!UpworkVisit Upwork.com right now and post your job for free to connect with top talent and grow your business today! Skylight CalendarRight now, Skylight is offering our listeners $30 off their 15 inch Calendars by going to Skylightcal.com/NFL. Amazon Fire TV Stick 4kDid you know your Fire TV is also an Xbox? Turn any TV into your gaming and entertainment hub with Fire TV Stick 4K devices — no console required. Head to Amazon.com/firetvlockedon to get started. Xbox Game Pass Ultimate subscription and compatible controller required.GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNBA for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.Monarch MoneyTake control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKEDONNFL at monarchmoney.com for 50% off your first year.FanDuelRight now, new customers can get TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS in BONUS BETS when your first FIVE DOLLAR BET WINS! Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started. Bet with FanDuel—Official Partner of the NBA.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Cincinnati Bengals are the only team in the National Football League that holds a one-day rookie minicamp. But Zach Taylor thinks it's perfect for the Bengals. Let's get into it. You are Locked-on Bengals, your daily Cincinnati Bengals podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. What up, Bengals fans, and welcome to another episode of the Locked-on Bengals podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. I'm Jake Liskow, he's James Rapine.

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And in addition to that, we have the official list of undrafted free agents for the Cincinnati Bengals, highlighted by Seth McLaughlin, a favorite for Ohio State fans who are also Bengals fans. Let's get started with this idea that the one-day approach is the right way to do it. And I mentioned it. The Bengals are unique in this regard. The only team in the NFL to use only one day, every other team using two or three days for their rookie mini camps. And on the one hand, that's less work on field with rookies than you are allowed to do. There's no making up for that elsewhere.

But, James, you were there. you saw it. What was your opinion of the idea that one day is the right approach? Well, I'll tell you this. All of our listeners, you, me, the reporters that were there, and I said this to those that were there, we could all make it through rookie camp. Rookie camp is a breeze, baby.

I mean, we could all make it through for the Bengals and their approach there. I think if this is their strategy, then, yeah, you only know. need to do one day of it. And it's because it is such a walkthrough is putting it lightly. Like it's a light walk through. It's something that you could walk through after having plenty of cold ones and there are too many cold ones the night before and then you wake up early for like you still would make it through this. So I get why they only have one day of it from their perspective. And in Zach said, Zach Taylor said, quote, we get them on the field briefly. Let them show us some athletic stuff, learn some of the stuff in a walkthrough setting, and then

Monday, they'll dive in with the veterans. And I think that's, that's all well and good. But I do wonder if it would be beneficial to do a bit more, be a bit more intense. I saw, and the Bengals don't have a bunch of rookie quarterbacks like the Cleveland Browns, but the Cleveland Browns are running a little seven-on-seven. It looked like and running some drills and doing some things like it's like, well, maybe it would be beneficial to do a bit more. At the same time, I get, if they're going to be light regardless, and it's going to be about the walk-through portion of it and then just dive into your playbook

and get settled in the hotel, but before Monday and the veterans get there and they integrate. I do understand that strategy. And I also don't think it has anything to do with the slow start. There's been some people that say that. And I'm like, all right, well, let's not pretend rookie camp is going to impact whether or not these guys start fast in September. But it is interesting that they do just one day, no doubt. Here's the argument that it has something to do with the slow start.

And I'm not sure how much I buy this, but I'm just going to lay it out. And we can just talk about it. But individually, I agree with you. adding a half hour to day one of an on-field rookie program where maybe you sprinkle in some skeleton work, then adding a second day in an hour and a half, or maybe it's a little bit more intense on field, in a vacuum, it's hard to make an argument that that is going to have a significant impact in September in the start of the NFL season, the start of the regular season. But we talk about this, I feel, multiple times in the offseason,

where we discuss, oh, maybe they could have done one more thing here or there. But it doesn't really matter if there's a day missed here or there. I guess the argument would be then is that the cumulative effect of, we'll shave a day off a rookie camp, we'll shave a day off of the mandatory mini camp and let the guys, or have a really light last day and let the guys go enjoy their stuff. summer and doing that throughout the off season could eventually add up to lost time on task, right?

And not maximizing all of the offseason availability that is available to the team in working with the players. I don't know if I buy that to be abundantly clear about it, but that will be the argument if you were looking to make an argument. It's very unspecific. that's part of the problem with that argument, I think. Like you don't know what the tangible benefit would be. You also don't know what the tangible loss is of not doing it.

But that would be, I think, what you could say if you were looking to build that argument. I don't buy it. I was muted because that's how much I was selling the idea. I do get what you're saying. And I think there are people that are going to buy it and are going to say, yeah, this approach impacts you it impacts the mindset it impacts all of it and i i'm just not there especially because i i don't think and now this is a different topic but i i don't think that rookie camp if it was two days or three days i don't think they would ramp up the intensity to an eight

or a nine on whatever the rookie camp scale is i think if anything it would be all right well we're going to really slow this thing down and try to get, we'll do individual drills and then we'll work on a few things and then we'll call it a day and then the next day it's a little bit more. Like I just, I think that getting them on the field with the veterans where they can learn and see how it's really done, I think that might be part of it as well, is just building the right habits and all of those things that come with it. I mean, would you rather, and we'll get into some of the undrafted free agents. They didn't take a receiver in this year's draft,

but Rashad Owens, wouldn't you like to watch Jamar run a route before you run a route? I think there's benefits there. At the same time, they're the only team in the league that does it for one day. And it is the lightest thing. I cannot, because we sat in the stands, it was inside Paycor Stadium.

And it was, it started at night in the morning on Friday. And I'm like, all right, this is it. This is this is rookie mini camp because it's just it is as light of a session as as you're going to see. It doesn't mean they don't do things. Of course they do. But think like for those that have been to training camp, think about like the work

that's being done before the work before they stretch. Like that that's kind of what it is. in small groups essentially. There were highlights posted on Twitter of some of the defensive linemen running circles or like running isn't quite the word. Like violently turning circles, somewhat violently turning circles around trash cans. There was a good clip of Scott Peters being very hands-on teaching, certainly hand placement with a couple of the rookie offensive linemen.

So there are a couple things that looked interesting. but without being on the field and hearing exactly what's being taught and what the points of emphasis are, we don't even, we can only extrapolate from what we see what's even being taught there. But seeing the hands-on approach from Scott Peters is something that I will be curious in all off-season long into training camp and seeing if there is that continued emphasis on technical teaching that we've heard Willie Anderson talk about over the years is something

that NFL offensive line coaches generally just don't do. They're so focused on scheme and landmarks and coaching plays instead of technique. So seeing that's kind of cool. But as you mentioned, like all these guys essentially got in last night, or not last night, but the night before rookie camp Thursday night. Yeah, when by the way, they signed for their guys right before, right before signing all the undrafted free agents as well, which we'll get into the undraft. Yeah, we can talk about some of the undrafted and some of the other.

takeaways from the Bengals one day. Rookie camp. James wants to talk about skill players. Shocking. We'll continue the conversation there coming up next. Ever check your bank account and wonder, where did all my money go? Between dining out, online shopping, entertainment,

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Because you were there. I wasn't there. I can only talk about what I saw on the internet and what I observed from my post here in British Columbia. What else stood out to you down at Paycourt today? Yeah, you're posted British Columbia. What, where does Jake? Why does he live in Canada? I get that question a bunch of times a year. People think I'm from here.

I'm from Cincinnati. All the new people. I grew up in Cincinnati just to be clear. That's right. Princeton grad. Princeton grad. Flex on him. Anyways, I'm just going to go down the whole Jake.

Let's go rabbit hole. and I decided to stop. Because I want to talk about skill players, baby. Let's talk about some skill players. You talk about skill players? Skill players. I think Todd Brooks, it was cool watching him. And he is, he's thick, what you'd expect.

But someone that brings the right mindset. I know this clip has been posted in a bunch of different places. We put the entire thing on Cincinnati Bengals talk. But he's talking about how wants to protect his. quarterback loves protecting his quarterback not overwhelmed by the playbook i thought that was interesting i talked to shemar stewart and taj brooks about that and i i don't think either one of them was like oh man now maybe it's a scaled down version like maybe the here's chapter one yeah which i would totally get right but i i think taj brooks is such a he's gonna be because i i just i was talking

with him after the interview. And I brought up how it was such a good landing spot for him. And he instantly brought up the veterans in that running back room. And when you think of a guy that Texas Tech's all time leading rusher, really good pass blocker, caught 20 plus passes each and every year, or over the past, what, three years in each of those seasons, it's like, all right, well, he's well-rounded. What better guys to learn from than a Samadjai, then a Zach. Moss, then guys that are, that have that type of well-rounded skill set. And obviously, Chase Brown

is leading the way. He's not as much of a veteran in year three as those other guys. But I, I think that he's going to fit right in. And it would not shock me at off. He contributes right away. Just watching him do some of those field drills. You can tell, like that's one thing. Like last year in training camp, they had a couple undrafted running backs. And early on, you're like, all right, well, there's no, there's no diamond in the rough here. There's no guy that's going to threaten Trayvian on Williams. And Trivian got nicked up and all those things. Like, you can usually tell right away.

Todd Brooks, you can tell he's got something to his game. And so I'm excited about him. I know the Bengals are too. You talk about the fit. And he talks about the veterans. Great. It sounds like he had a relationship of some sort or some sort of understanding of Samaj Parin. It's talking a lot about Samajé and talking about him back in college.

in Oklahoma and watching him then. But from a scheme perspective as well, you think about one of the big deficiencies for this team last year, wasn't only short yardage, like third and one, although that was a problem too. It was in addition to that four minute drives late in games where they know you're running inside zone. They know you want to run duo.

They know you want to run between the tackles. And they need to get better offensive line play for that. wrong, but Tosh Brooks made the most out of his opportunities doing a lot of that. And that's very unsexy running. That's a lot of four-yard gains. And the experience doing that and bringing that to the NFL, sure, talk about pass blocking, talk about learning from well-rounded guys. That's all great.

But also the scheme fit to me is a reason to believe in Tage Brooks. And it seems like the mentality is exactly where you'd want it to be. Now, like you said, maybe he's a little overconfident right now. But as a 23-year-old entering the league, it's not like he's a particularly young rookie, right? So his ability to grasp what's going on should be expected to be at the point where it's at. And if he can pick those things up and come along quickly in that role, there will very clearly be a role for him. And I agree with you. I found his little locker room scrum interview to be an impressive display of his character,

talking about why he went back for the extra year, Texas Tech, for example, and talking about a big part of that reason was not only team goals, but to grow as a leader as well and to embrace that. And so you bring that to the room, you bring that to this culture, that's something that I can appreciate as well. Will you like his big locker room interview since he liked his little one? when he has a big locker room interview i'll probably love it because that means he's done something to to deserve a big locker room interview of course yeah that's right no i love it all right let's

let's uh let's dive into some of these clearly i i didn't get enough sleep uh let's get into some of these undrafted free agents and uh you mentioned it seth mclaughlin that's a guy that everybody 's going to be talking about i i will say this i did not talk to seth on Friday. And one, I talked to Shamar, Samar Stewart for probably seven, eight minutes after his scrum. But also, he's just so popular among, like, the local media was like, oh, yeah, I want to talk to the Ohio State Center.

Like everyone wanted to talk to the Ohio State Center. So I do think that it is of interest. And I think we should discuss the Ohio State Center because when it comes to these undrafted free agents that were officially signed Friday, I think he's the guy that may have the best shot at pushing for a roster spot, certainly from a pre-draft evaluation standpoint when you look at some of these draft gurus and where they had him in their rankings. Yeah, and Dane Bruegler, not Dane Bruegler, Brandon Thorne,

we were trying to get Dane scheduled here for some time in the future. But Brandon Thorne, who I talked to this week, getting all over our guests confused. mentioned Seth McLaughlin as a guy that was one of his favorites, certainly a guy that he thought was a very draftable player. The Bengals getting him as an undrafted guy, something that he thought was a pretty exciting move for them. So, yeah, let's talk about the undrafted class. The last notes I have on the drafted rookies,

we obviously didn't get to see Shamar Stewart or Demetrius Knight participate on Friday. The rest of those four guys that the Bengals did draft, did sign their contracts, they were full goes. Dylan Fairchild has been in Cincinnati, apparently staying with Ted Caris, working the film clicker with Teddy K, getting some extra mental reps in with the Bengal Center. That's pretty cool. And anything there before we talk about Seth McLaughlin, I know we just teed it up, but I mentioned the Carrey's Fairchild connection. It's a good point.

Ted Caris last year of his deal. Do they give him a plus one there or not? I wonder. Just throwing that. that out there you do you did you thought i was going to talk about fairchild but i did yes just uh i'm just wondering i don't know if i'm him i ask for it i think he had maybe his best season as a bengal last year yeah i think i think i think you should ask yeah uh and there's obviously a strong connection between burrow and keros like breaking in a new center would have a transition period to it and

And we've seen that with the Bengals before, going from solid center to Young Center and asking those guys. Yeah, the Bengals apparently signing, and we'll transition to the undrafted class here, we both start with Seth deLaughlin, but apparently the only draftable graded long snapper according to those who evaluate long snappers, which apparently is not something the Zach Taylor does, judging from his joke about his long snapper rankings before the draft. But let's dive into this undrafted class here as we round out our rookie mini camp takeaways coming up next. All right. Let's dive into these undrafted free agents. And let's start with long snapper. No, let's start with Seth McLaughlin. I think health is a big factor here.

When will he get healthy? Will they be able to compete for a job? What does it mean for Matt Lee? And that's what's interesting for me is Will South. be happy enough or healthy enough excuse me i know he's happy to be in cincinnati but healthy enough to really push for for a job that i think matt lee ran away with in camp last year that backup center job and performed at a really high level and and people are interested in him and and so that that's going to be an interesting a possible interesting battle is how i would phrase that

we'll see when he can get on the field that's that's where i would start and yeah coming off the achilles he mentioned his expectations right was it like late july he's hoping to be able to participate in training camp is that right do you recall yeah oh yeah he's he's he's hoping to be ready to go cleared for camp so he ruptured his achilles in november yeah that's a quick turnaround man feels it feels quick but who knows you know don't know the degree of the injury or anything like that, but it was an Achilles tear at Ohio State that caused him to miss the rest of the season, won the Rimmington trophy, like we mentioned. And you go through the last few years of Rimmington trophy winners, they're pretty good.

You got Jackson Powers Johnson in 2023, Tyler Linderbaum in 2021, Landon Dickerson in 2020, Tyler Biatis in 2019, Garrett Bradbury in 2018, Billy Price in 2017. There we go. There we go. There we go. The Bengals have had a couple of, a couple of, a couple of. of Remington trophy winners, and they haven't really gone great. Jonathan Luegs, remember him, Arkansas 2007, fourth round pick, was he? Your guy, your guy.

Fourth round pick, Jonathan Luegs back. You had his jersey. I did not have his jersey. But I remember that that's someone that actually comes to mind to me for like excitement for a Remington trophy center. Like I remember, people were stoked about Jonathan Weiss. being the Remington trophy guy and getting him when they got him. Pat Elfline, another Ohio State Center that won it.

So three Ohio State Centers in the last nine years or so. But Brandon Thorne had him in the third to fourth round range. Dame Brugler had him in the third to fourth round range. So from an on-field perspective, the tape really impressed those guys from an evaluation perspective. The big question, like you said, is going to be health, is when can you get back on the field? Did the Achilles injury have an impact on his ability to play football, on his athleticism, on his lower body strength, you know, from core to feet, you know, and the anchor connection there with the ground that goes through the Achilles? Yeah, it's a big injury to come back from. It just is.

And I think it's a nice get for the Bengals. I certainly understand why if you're, you're him, he'd want to come here and have a shot to compete for a roster spot. That's what I mean by that. Like, I think Matt Lee probably makes the roster. But if Seth McLaughlin's going to be that guy, he's going to have to beat out someone and show it. And that would be the most obvious candidate there.

But yeah, he's got to get on the field. And Achilles are scary, man. Like, I, that's so much scarier to me than an ACL, like, just in general. Like, not, I don't even mean from an athlete's, like, like, you want to talk about an injury that I would never want? Just, ugh, that one is rough. Not that other injuries aren't bad either. But hopefully he can make a full recovery and have a shot to compete. That's all you can ask for is an undrafted free agent.

Yeah. And so, yeah, he's interesting. And I think fans are interested in him, too. Yeah, Brandon Thorne's summary was that he's an older prospect with solid athletic ability, mental makeup, build, play, strength, and technical savvy to compete for the pivot job, the center job, went healthy and stick as a long-term starter in a multiple-run scheme. Compared to a more athletic, Bradley Bozeman, who's been playing center in the NFL for quite a while, was 88th on the overall Bleacher Report Board, IOL, Interior Offensive Limit number 9 for Brandon Thorne,

high-level backup slash potential starter round three grade, with obviously the big question being around the Achilles injury. So we'll see if he can compete in that room. The Matt Lee thing is interesting. And does he actually get into the rotation competing for a guard spot this year? Does he actually become a versatile interior offensive line backup? Is he still a center-only player? Which is where we thought he would end up when he was drafted mostly because of his size

and some limitations there. So if he continues to work pretty much only a center, then that is an interesting competition, much more interesting than if Matt Lee is also working in a guard because then you're showing that versatility that they really want to see for their backups. And obviously Matt Lee with the pass blocking chops that he's shown in Miami and Cincinnati in preseason games as a rookie

is a guy that I would. would be very hesitant to cut if I was Bengals. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's it would be an uphill battle, put it that way. Uphill battle for Seth McGoughlin, not impossible, but certainly one of those things where, and by the way, every undrafted rookie is a long shot at this point. Doesn't mean they won't make it, but it's going to take them some right position, right time and he's going to have to have a really impressive camp that starts with getting on the field. other guys that stand out.

And yes, there are other undrafted free agents. They signed 13 of them on Friday. To me, I think the best shot to make the roster is William Wagner, the Michigan long snapper. I think that's a very real, I'm going to spend like 30 seconds on this total.

We don't need to break down. But he got the most working out of any other rookies, by the way, at rookie camp. And I'm not kidding. He was putting in time with Darren Simmons. But I think the Bengals are really, really need to see more from Calatomydus if he's going to make the team. And so bringing in William Wagner certainly helps them do that.

Outside of that, though, who stands out to you as a guy that you're like, all right, has a shot here? Is it one of these wide receivers? Probably not a running back. Who stands out to you, Jake? I think the wide receivers have a pretty uphill battle. we just talked about the interest in if you can upgrade wide receiver six great Jordan Moore came out really well on the sheet the Duke wide receiver had good athleticism good production at Duke but I think these wide receivers have a pretty uphill

battle you need to be a strong special teams contributor if you're going to make the team as wide receiver six you mentioned Rashad Owens for his size at 62-218 he's a bigger guy but But the guys that stand out to me are Howard Cross, the Al Golden connection, a little bit undersized to play defensive tackle. But defensive tackle with Notre Dame was a top 300 player in the draft, was probably seen as a late day three guy for those that had him ranked as draftable. But where they have a clear depth need on the roster is defensive tackle. So I think between him and Eric Gregory, who was reported to get a $30,000 signing.

bonus, which is pretty big for the Bengals, not a lot of money for an NFL contract, but big money for the Bengals. Those two guys, interesting. Both of those guys, depending on who you look at, seen as late day three to priority free agent kind of players. Eric Gregory, defensive tackle out of Arkansas 319, more traditionally sized, where Howard crosses 285. We talked about Seth McLaughlin, and then Caleb ETIN, offensive tackle from BYU, getting

the three-year deal, is interesting. It doesn't necessarily mean that he's going to see three years of the deal, but it is interesting to see an undrafted guy go for a three-year deal. And we haven't seen the official deal, but that's what it was reported as initially. So those guys stand out for sure. They, I think, have a roster that suggests that Chiquan Loyal, if he shows up at safety and shows them something could be in the mix, where they could certainly stand to improve in the safety room. Again, think uphill battle there. And I feel the same way about Cole Taylor just because of the room and what they could use at the tight end position, just like they could use at the safety position, something if these guys show them something through the process. Yeah, Cole Taylor, six, seven, six, seven.

So he's maybe a little too tall. I know. And honestly, like I stared at Cole Taylor throughout minicamp. But I did. I watched him run one route. And I was like, how tall is that dude? And I looked and it was six, seven. I'm like, it kind of runs like he's six, seven.

We'll see. You know, like it kind of like, and it is weird when those things line up. It's one route. Mr. and Mrs. Taylor, I'm not talking trash about your son. He has a shot to make the team. I'm not saying that.

It's just one route that I saw at minicamp. You never know, man. Parents watch. Talking about big dudes though, Caleb E. ETN is a giant. Nearly six, seven, six, six and three quarters himself, three 30, 36 inch arms, 86 inch wingspan. That is a large, large man. And Brandon Thorne wrote about him as well, didn't think that he necessarily had, or was it Bruegler?

I'm talking about Brueglars reported at this point now. This was Brueglars right up in the beast. I read a lot of things this morning about these guys. But doesn't know that the NFL processing speed is there for. ETIN coming out of BYU, but with those tools and the size, if he can come along in that respect, then that's an interesting developmental player to me because 36 inch arms at that size is pretty rare specimen to be that big. Yeah, agreed. And two notes on him. One, looks like from a size standpoint, remember how we were talking about Trent Brown?

looks like Trump Brown a little bit. Like it has just massive upper body. And I'm not saying he's as heavy as Trent Brown, but massive upper body in is, just kind of look like him a little bit and certainly has some of those same physical traits. They gave him a three-year deal, which I think is interesting.

I don't really recall them doing that for many undrafted free agents ever. Now, it doesn't mean that he's making a team or it's guaranteed or anything like that. None of that's true. but they clearly like him as a prospect and would not be shocking at all if he takes it to Scott Peters's coaching, if he can be one of those developmental pieces. That doesn't mean he makes the roster.

Yeah. But you really do need, and part of the reason why you draft, you get a Scott Peters, you draft two offensive linemen, and you kind of add multiple intriguing rookies in general to the trenches in an offensive line room, is to see if Scott can get something out of them. So maybe ETN, yeah, maybe ETN can get something out of some of these younger guys that you liked already. And then a guy like, or Peter can get something out of a guy like ETN who has some traits that you like.

So yeah, he's another guy. I test wise, I was like, man, it's a lot like Trent Brown, like looked a lot like him. And I mean that as a compliment, just to be clear. I'm not really. Yeah. From an athleticism perspective, he did everything. The agility testing numbers are not great, but the 40, the straight line athleticism, the 40 was really good, especially for 330, 93rd percentile 40. And the jumps were good, 80th percentile vert, 96 percentile broad.

So some lower body explosion for Caleb E.T.N. And has that length that I think is something that Scott Peters really likes. Technical refinement needed there. And obviously we're talking about an undrafted guy, but if there can be significant importance, improvement to punch timing, hand placement. And I think this is true for multiple guys of Bengals drafted and something they're looking for Scott Peters to teach these guys, then you could have a fun developmental player there in Caleb ETIN, although he is a little bit older.

But I think a prime candidate right now for practice squad guy who they hope can come along and maybe develop into a swing tackle eventually. No doubt. And the other one I wanted to mention, because I I could not think of, let me make sure, where is he? What's the guard last year that got nicked up early? I know they like him internally. Andrew Corker, no, just on banning.

No, no, not that was there today. The guy that got hurt, I don't know why he's not on the R-Lads. You sure he's on the roster? I thought he was. I thought he was still there unless they just let him go. Maybe they let him go. I cannot recall who you're talking about. Yeah, because you suck at names,

and it's definitely rubbing off on me. Anyways, Jackson Kirkland. Oh, he's been around for a couple of years. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, but that's a guy that they like, what I'm saying is, is they liked his makeup,

and you want to be able to develop him. And so I was just trying to think of the name. Like, they're saying that Scott Peters is going to maximize the Jackson Kirkland. I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not that he was there on Friday or anything like that. I thought you meant he was a rookie last year.

That's why I dismissed him. That's why I was confused. Yeah. Yeah. Why is Arlads not happen? He is on. He is on Arlads. Kirkland is.

Oh, right there. What is going on? Anyways. We're past due. We're overwrite for this episode. James Dante Barnett, the other interesting college free agent that I wanted to shout about coming through the international program.

Doesn't count as a roster spot. A lot of athletic tools, hasn't played a whole lot of football. British Jamaican player, going to be interesting to see what they can get out of him. Because I think he has some talent and whether he can put it together and be a developmental player for him and get onto the field at some point. It will be interesting to watch as well. But like I said, this episode is overcooked. That's going to do it for this episode of the Lockdown Bengals podcast.

James is asleep. Until next time, thanks for listening. Hoode and have a good one.