Locked On Bengals - Daily Podcast On The Cincinnati Bengals - Joe Burrow Stars in Netflix's Quarterback | What makes the Bengals' QB UNIQUE

Episode Date: July 10, 2025

Cincinnati Bengals star Joe Burrow starred in Netflix's Quarterback. James Rapien and Jake Liscow give their top takeaways from the series, discuss the viral clips, including Burrow's process, mindset, what sets him apart from Jared Goff and Kirk Cousins and so much more!Join the Locked On Bengals Insider Community! https://joinsubtext.com/lockedonbengalsFind and follow Locked On Bengals on your favorite podcast platforms:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/locked-on-bengals-daily-podcast-on-the-cincinnati-bengals/id1159723162Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7AObc0lh0WmQl5fJVgtajsGoogle Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vbG9ja2Vkb25iZW5nYWxz?sa=X&ved=0CAYQrrcFahcKEwio_sXtj8nuAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAgStitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/locked-on-bengalsSupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNFL for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelRight now, new customers can get $150 in BONUS BETS when your first $5 BET WINS! Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started.Monarch MoneyTake control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKEDONNFL at monarchmoney.com/lockedonnfl for 50% off your first year.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Joe Burrow stands out for many reasons, but Netflix's quarterback gave us insight into what makes him unique. Let's break it down. You are locked on Bengals, your daily Cincinnati Bengals podcast. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. What up, Bengals fans, and welcome to another episode of the Locked on Bengals podcast. Part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. I'm Jake Liskow, he's James Rupin. And we've been doing this thing on Locked on Bengals since 2016,

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Use code locked on NFL at monarchmoney.com for 50% off your first. year. And James, I don't know about you. My approach to watching quarterback on Netflix was much like my approach to watching quarterback the last time this show came out, which was to find the part relevant to the Bengals, watch that part, and don't watch the rest. But I do think that there's some interesting bits that come up when you see the juxtaposition of Joe Burrow with Kurt cousins and Jared Goff on this year's show. What were your initial? your big takeaways when you watched Netflix. One on Netflix.

Sure. Well, Netflix knew who the star was. I mean, Joe was shown more than anyone highlighting him, highlighting his season. What makes him tick, especially early on. Spoiler, I watched the whole series last week. And so it's funny seeing what people, like what people are taking away versus what I was taking away. And I think my biggest takeaway now. a bit removed from it.

You get time to reflect on it, see some of the public attention that things have gotten, like the fossil clip, right? I knew right away when I saw, I'm like, oh, that's going to go viral. Like, you just knew,

like little things like that are going to get picked up and get attention. And it doesn't mean that, you know, these other guys don't get attention, but Joe Burroughs the star of the show. And what I think is unique about him

as you explore, as much as he's willing to let you explore, I would say. I think it's very clear why Joe is in a different class, a different tier when compared to Jared Goff, when compared to Kurt Cousins. Doesn't mean those guys aren't likable, by the way. I think they're pretty likable. I also think they're pretty normal. I don't think Joe's normal. Just watching it, him discussing things, it's it's there's just so many little things that I noticed whether it's sideline whether it's and I watched the whole thing so I watched all of the Jared golf parts all of the Kirk cousins parts great clips loves Kirk cousins now Jared golf what I thought was interesting is how much he

talked about his ankle I don't think Joe would do that I think Joe would not talk about he would say hey you need to tape it up tape it up and then that's it he wouldn't keep talking about his ankle that was tweaked and it wouldn't be such a topic I And so that's just one of the many little differences I noticed. And I think you combine all of that with the family stuff that they showed, how he was raised, his relationship with his mom, everything. You roll it all together. And it's why Joe Burroughs great at what he does is because he works super hard.

He's able to separate his personal life from the star life and the football side of things. and it works. And it's really, really hard to do that. But he's one of what? Like if I'm just completely worst case, the fourth best quarterback on the planet, and I mean, that's the complete worst case, I would say. And I would have him higher than that. I think you find out why he is where he is in this doc, at least a little bit.

So that was my main takeaway. You can see a clear difference between Joe Burrow, why Joe Burrow is Joe Burrow versus a Jared Gough, who's still really, really good, obviously. Kurt Cousins, really good. They both made a ton of money. Jared Gough may win the Super Bowl this year. But Joe Burroughs in a different class, and I think you see why when you watch this. The differences were pretty obvious.

The other, you mentioned the ankle with golf, and that brings to mind a few scenes where Burroughs talking about a few bumps and bruises in the show. One, where he thought he broke his neck. Yes. And then he's like, yeah, I was just feeling my jaw getting crunched. And then I was fine. And that's it. And another where he shows up in the training room,

he's like, yeah, my neck's a little sore, but other than that, I feel good. Or the conversation where Joey Bouset is saying, yeah, I thought you were going to be way worse. You're feeling way better than I thought you'd be feeling after. And that is a bit of a difference in the way those guys were depicted and who knows what conversations weren't shown or why they focused in certain ways to manufacture drama or show off that Joe's tough, but Joe's tough. And I think that that is a calling card trait for him that's been obvious since his time in college and impressed his teammates early on in the NFL and impress his opponents.

The toughness that the Joe Burrow brings is, I guess, not underappreciated by Bengals fans. I wouldn't say it's underappreciated, but maybe it's like slightly underdiscust because he takes so many hits. The amount of times the guy is getting crushed and watching touchdowns from his back in this show, the highlights that end up with Joe Burrow being buried. Way too many. way too many and so the the toughness in comparison especially really stands out but when you say you get an idea of why if you had to isolate a thing that that you saw in this documentary that made you think like yeah that's that's what it is like there's the thing there's the it is there something that stands out to you is like that's what makes burrow go this is kind of an

odd thing, but do you have stations in your house? This dude, and I get it, he lives in a mansion, fine, but has stations where he's like, oh, I'm going to do this, then I'm going to go here and do this and do this. And I think like, all right, well, if you're that, that organized, imagine what his study habits are. Imagine how he, his film habits are and everything that goes into that. And I think that that is it. And you can combine it with a bunch of other things. But even though he's easily the biggest star in the show and clearly the draw and Peyton Manning probably maybe not begged him, but really pushed to get him on the show

for a reason because they needed the main guy to lead quarterback season two, I think it's that he's so organized, buttoned up and you know he's going to get his stuff done regardless of what's going on around and regardless of the chaos. And I think that was put to the test last year, by the way. And I also, I'm not sure that the, at least for me watching it,

because I know how painful last season was for Bengals fans, and I'm sure it brought up some of that. But did you feel, were you reliving that pain? I didn't think it was as bad. I thought it was a unique look. And even though it brought back some of that stuff, and I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot about that moment. It was mostly like, this is cool to see how Joe is handling the best season of his career,

but also the most challenge. Yeah, I do have thoughts. I will talk about some of what I felt when I was watching in terms of reliving last season and watching how Joe experienced. those things because that was interesting. You did get to see like you get camera shots to draw on the sideline, but you get to see very specifically the way he reacts to certain moments like the Bow Nix touchdown at the end of that Broncos game that pushes that game

into overtime, the DPI call in week two. Definitely relive some of those things, I would say. And let's talk a little bit more about the bringing up the memories of 2024 that this show managed to do coming up next. Ever wish managing your money felt easier? Well, with Monarch money, it can't. Whether you're growing your savings or planning a big purchase, Monarch puts you in the driver's seat. It's like having your own personal CFO, giving you full visibility and control over your finances. Monarch money is more than a budgeting app. It's a complete financial command center.

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I guess five episodes where the Bengals are losing, they're dropping to four and eight. I think it was Mike Tariko who said at some point, well, if you think the Chiefs and the Ravens are the best teams in the AFC, the Bengals were that close to beating both of them. And instead they're one in four going into week six. And hearing Burrow talk about, you know, play great.

lost to Washington anyway. It's kind of Jayden's coming out party. Yep. That's a frustration, I think, and learning, I think, in a way for Joe Burrow as well, did stand out. I was frustrated. I honestly, I forgot they gave up that touchdown, that Bow-Nicks touchdown at the end of regulation in that game.

You forgot that? Oh, dude. I was like, oh, yeah, they won this game. It was fine. It wasn't fine. No. No, it was not fine. That was the, I mean,

It ended fine, but that was the biggest roller coaster of the season. Well, like Joe said, like, we finally got one. Like, we've had games like that all year, and we haven't gotten those breaks. And Evan missing the kick against Baltimore after Lamar dropped the ball. Like, I obviously remember those things, but they don't get easier the second time. Like, the Bengals were so close so many times last year. And it is still very frustrating to watch again. But when you combine that,

with what you take away from a borough perspective here. Yeah. There's a couple things. One, there's that viral clip of Burrow talking to the quarterbacks. Like sometimes in the beginning of the season, I just try to not turn the ball over. I don't necessarily let it rip the way that I would later in the season. And I think that if I don't turn the ball over, we'll win.

That's not always a case. I think that was a really interesting bit. Everyone's seen that one. That one went viral on social media. and that combined with kind of his reactions throughout the season, the continual lesson learning and internalization of these ideas that you see from Burrow that's going to lead to continued growth for him, even at this point his career going into what, year six, right?

Seven? Six? Yeah. I think that you get those insights. And that was pretty cool that you don't always get to see. Yeah. I think the one clip that didn't go viral yet, maybe it will by the time people are watching or listening, Jake Browning telling Joe, regardless if we win this game or not at Arrowhead, I think you're back. Yeah.

And clearly he wasn't himself against New England or they would have beat the crap out of the crappy Patriots. Let's be honest. Even if he wasn't trying to force it into certain windows and things like that, they would have if he was just normal Joe. and a lot of things went against them. But then he goes into Kansas City. He plays much better. You have the fumble, the fourth and 16, all the things that go into that. But that clip was like, all right, well, I wonder how much of a discussion that was.

Like, because Jake is around the whole time. And so for him to, whether it's on the bench, whether it's not, whether it's in the locker room, it doesn't matter. Jake's there, what they're warming up. So he's very aware of what Joe, at least some of what Joe's thinking, feeling, how he's looking, all of those things. So for him to say that, and then they do play the way they did against Washington, where Joe was awesome.

They take the lead early. Jane Daniels is amazing and just torches the Bengals defense. And that was the beginning of the end for Luana Rumo. But yeah, I think that to me was really interesting because it was like, Man, not that there was doubt, but like all of the things we were questioning and wondering at training camp, like that was pretty darn real. And then after that week one where it was like, can you hold a water bottle or remember that? Like it was all this weird stuff. That was ridiculous.

But yes, I do remember. Yeah, obviously he was throwing. So the water bottle thing was dumb. But the point is, is there was questions. And I think there was questions internally as well. And that clip proves it for sure. Well, I think that's part of what leads to this conclusion. to play in the preseason.

And I know this doesn't come up in the show, but we've said, pretty repeatedly, that Burrow gets significantly better with on-field live reps. And you get a little bit of insight into that with that bit that did go viral with the quarterbacks at, I think it's training

camp, I think. Maybe it's a practice in the season where he's talking, I think it was before their first game, where he's talking about not turning the ball over, being a little bit more conservative early. And that I think has to do with comfort level. I think that was after the first game. Was it after the first game? Yeah, because he said

sometimes, because I think we're still going to win, sometimes that's not the case. Yeah. Then it goes to Kansas City. Yeah. Okay. I couldn't remember the chronology. But either way, I think that his comfort with exactly how things are playing out does come from direct experience in live

situations. He's obviously awesome, but he gets much better as the season goes on. And we've seen that every year where there are times throughout a season where it looks like he's playing perfect quarterback. Usually those aren't the first couple games of the season. I don't think they ever have been in his NFL career, at least. And so it does bring me back to this decision to play in the preseason and get experience and exposure to something closer to regular season game speed. And, you know, we've talked about that before. We spent entire episodes talking about their decision to play starters in the preseason.

And we'll see how that exactly looks in a few weeks. But it did bring that to mind for me, no doubt, that that could be related to a lot of what we're talking about here. And what we're going to talk about when we get into training camp conversations about their need to not deal with another slow start and how much of that does come down on Joe Burrow. Sure. Yeah. I mean, if Joe Burrow is playing at a high level, he's going to hide a lot of flaws. And so if he can start the season playing at a high level, then they're going to win games.

They might not be undefeated, but they're going to be two and two in September instead of one and three. They're not going to start 0 and 2. They may start 2 and 0. I think if Joe Burroughs playing at a high level those first two weeks, they have a really darn good chance of winning both of those games. And we know how much if you drop a game that you should win early in the season, how much that can bite you. And this team is mentally tough.

They're really, really tough and resilient and all of those things. And I think a lot of that comes from Joe, but it would be nice to not have to dig out of a hole and nice to not have him saying, man, sometimes I, because he was clearly reflecting on the Patriots game. And I'm sure he watched that film and he did it. I mean, he was bad that game. If you want to make the Joe Burrough shouldn't be MVP last year case outside of the record, you would pull up that game. That would be the game you'd say, see.

And a lot of it had to do with the injury. He had a ton of reps in practice, but can they get it out of him with playing in the preseason? How much does he play in the preseason? Like, that is all super interesting. And I do wonder, and Netflix didn't cover this. how was the conversation between Joe and Zach about all the joint practice reps, but him only appearing in that first preseason game? Did Joe ask for more?

That would have been interesting. And obviously they weren't going to put that up there. But that's one of the many questions that would have been nice to be answered. Because maybe if you play him in the first two preseason games, he's able to hit the ground running a bit faster. Joe's been asking for more in the preseason. seems like every year he wants. He wants more in the preseason than he's gotten. The other bit of this is that even if Joe plays really well,

the defense needs to be better. And that is obvious from the Washington game or the end of the Kansas City game or the Baltimore games when they have multiple 14-point leads late in the game and all those close calls, that's where the rest of the team is obviously very, relevant but we'll wrap up with the remaining thoughts on other standout moments from quarterback featuring Joe Burrow to finish this show coming up next when before I had seen

the the show Jake the one thing I was really hoping to see was the behind the scenes look at Joe's process from a like a film and study I like I that's what I want and the like of course I I would love to watch the lifting and the training and all that. I knew that wouldn't be a ton. But I was hoping to get some of that. And I think that's the biggest disappointment. We didn't see him in the film room once. And he's this coach's son that understands the game and has a higher football IQ than any quarterback, any quarterback on the planet right now.

He does. Tom Brady's retired. Peyton's retired. I don't think Mahomes is on Burroughs level and no one else is really that close. So what is his process? I was really curious about that. And hopefully we see that at some point. Hopefully he does something else.

Maybe it's in year 12 after he has a couple of rings and a couple MVPs, whatever. But that was the big thing that coming into it I really wanted to see. And we saw a lot of good stuff. But that's the thing I'm still like, I want to know. And I'm going to, Joe, if you're watching or listening, I'm going to ask you. Maybe it's in the locker room. Maybe it's not during a news conference. But I kind of want to figure out his process a little bit.

Just to see, because he's not this early riser, go to bed super late. Like, it's not like that. Like, he gets his sleep. He has his process. It obviously works. So what is it? And that to me is really interesting. Yeah.

What is Joe Burrow, the film analyst, the self-analyst, the scouting, the opponent analysis process? What does that look like? What have been interesting? See, I understand why it wasn't. on TV. Sure. I understand why. I understand the, yeah.

It would have been cool to get some snippet into that process. I mean, you get to see them watch the week 18 games. Week 18? How many weeks are there in an NFL season? No, week 18. But it was that just absolute bloodbath Kansas City.

Aaron Rogers helped them out and then Kansas City's playing their backups and a quarter in. It's tough to win when you're not playing your starters. Yeah. That's what he said. I think, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think that would have been pretty cool to see. I agree with you there.

I thought it was cool to see the prioritization Joe Burrow has on maintaining his early friendships, like the OG friendships. The, what was it? The weekends playing video games with his high school friends. The guys in the suite with his family, the people, I guess it wasn't all guys. I guess it wasn't all guys. It was mostly guys. The people in his suite with his family after the game

where he goes up and he's hanging out without wearing a shirt under his jacket. You get an idea of what is important to Joe Burrow in life. And I think there's a nice moral of the story there that doesn't have anything to do with football that is maintaining friendships. And that's hard to do. I don't know about you. I haven't done a great job of, of maintaining my friendships from high school at this point.

I'm a little bit older than Joe, obviously. But to maintain those friendships all those years later, not the easiest thing to do. And obviously a priority for Joe Burrow, keeping that connection to his upbringing and his roots. Yeah, really tough to do. And I think especially someone like him, not that you don't make new friends,

but it's pretty darn hard. And he's talking about how much you'd like to Met Gallo because it was like a normal, normal dinner party. Yeah. Like, for who? For who is that normal for you?

But he can't go to eat, like down the street and not, like he's got to go like in a back door and like in a room that's hidden. Like that like that's, that's how Joe goes out to eat. Spoiler. I know. And so that would be unique.

That would be unique. Like I'm, I'm at home at this stage of my life. I'm at home more now than ever. And yeah. that it's still nice to get out and do the things that, you know, everyone likes to do. And so when you don't have that, you have to adjust. I also think it makes you value the relationships and friendships that you know.

And so I think that is important, especially because we're talking about a guy who, it's Patrick Mahomes. And then it's Joe Burrow when it comes to NFL stars. I'm trying to think of who else is there. Like, he's ahead of Lamar from a star. standpoint. I had a well ahead of Josh Allen from a star standpoint. I'm not talking about football for those that, but it's probably Mahomes and then Burrow

when it comes to you think about NFL stars across the league. And so yeah, I agree. I think that's pretty cool. I also know like they rotate games. It's not like they just play, I'll just throw out a game, call of duty. Like they'll play super random games that you would never think of. It's not just playing the hits. And I think that's cool too, because that's,

That's what we all did in college and in high school, is you're picking up random games and seeing what games are fun as a group and playing those. And so it's not just like Halo Knights. It's whatever's floating their boat at that moment. Pretty cool. Pretty cool to maintain those friendships. Also the window into all of his little quirky interests from the fossil stuff that everyone's seen, the Batmobile stories that everybody has seen.

I'm bummed. I wanted him to keep a Batmobile. Yeah, I mean, that whole situation was unfortunate. The treatment for Netflix, though, of keeping the things private that Burrow wanted to keep private, you can see why he trusted Peyton Manning in the process and said that he trusted this team in the process. And the willingness to do it was rewarded, I think, with the way that he was depicted on the show. Yeah, I was wondering how the robbery would be covered. and just brutal.

Brutal. I mean, he's like, it's all insured. And I think some of it's been recovered. I don't know if he's gotten. I think a lot of it was recovered. Yeah. There's images of it, which, by the way, like, it's super unique stuff that's obviously Joe Burroughs. Like, what are you going to do?

Like, there's no like, anyways, idiots. But to think, like, this puts it in perspective of how much, one, he values his privacy, too, where his level of stardom is. you get robbed and then you're like, man, should I move? Like he has this awesome secluded house that's really hard to find and get to, to be clear. And like the next day after, you know, or two days later, whenever he was talking with Lou, it would have probably been that Wednesday they played Sunday or Monday night. And then so that Wednesday kind of rallying and getting back to it.

And he's like, I don't know if I'm going to move. Like that is wild. Like the last thing Joe wanted to do was move. He had just moved. Like reasonably close to that that date. So hopefully he didn't. I haven't asked him. Not going to ask him, not my business.

But hopefully he feels content with how things played out. I think on that note, that just makes you think about how much didn't go the Bengals way last year or Joe Burroughs way last year. And he was feeling it, man. The way he talked about it like, man, we haven't had things going away all year. we finally got one in Dallas. And I guess Dallas was the game he said where they finally got one to go their way. And then they did again with the way that they finished in Denver. But they kind of did that themselves.

Joe and T individually were like, let's stop screwing around here. Scoring the touchdown win in overtime, which was the Beggles first overtime touchdown ever. Is that right? It is right. Which is crazy to think about. But when he's, when he's talking about the way he felt like we finally get one to go our way in Dallas finally get that break and then this happens it's just been that kind of year

let's not have that kind of year again well that Dallas was an overtime yeah but it was like the blocked punt that they recovered and yeah yeah on the first down and and then he gets into the locker room and it's like and it's that yeah it's always like last year it was just always the other foot dropping for Joe no doubt no doubt and uh can't imagine can't imagine that but uh the good news covered it man it was brutal i mean i'm sure worse much worse for him but man it sucked to watch too for sure for sure that's uh i think the last thing i do think that last season in the look back and maybe this is why i didn't have negatives the wrong word but when i saw all that stuff i think you can it should make joe better

like the tennessee blow up like i think I think that is needed sometimes. And like Pete Manning certainly had those moments. Tom Brady certainly had those moments. And that's what Joe needs to be. Like if the Bengals are going to win a Super Bowl, he's got to be that. He's got to be that leader. He's got to be that player.

He's got to be that guy stats-wise. Like that's it. There's a lot on him. That's how he wants it. And I do think last year the one thing that I'm sure, and he was already a good leader, but he might have taken that next step from a leadership standpoint. And again, it was already the intangibles were there, setting the tone was there, all of those things. But maybe he entered a different realm and is entering a different realm when it comes to that.

And we'll see this year. But if so, then we're not just talking about the most accurate quarterback in the NFL. We might be talking about the best leader in the NFL. And I think that's very much in the realm of conversation if he did grow from last year like I think he did. That's honestly a big question for this year and a training camp topic. As we transition, we're going to get into training camp previews next week. Training camp starts the following week. Where's the leadership coming from for the Beggles in 2025?

With a lot of leaders recently departed, identifying that next generation of leadership on the scene. And Joe Burroughs part in that. That's a big question, I think, that we're going to be talking about for training camp in early in the season and that the Bengals are going to have to sort through. We'll get into a training camp preview. We're going to stay on the topic of Joe Burrow here to start next week, again, barring pressing news

that will divert our plan. But we're getting to training camp preview season here, James. Back to five days a week next week here on lockdown Bengals. The off season for the podcast is over. Until next time, thanks for listening to this episode to the lockdown Bengals podcast. Ho day. And have a good one.