Locked On Bengals - Daily Podcast On The Cincinnati Bengals - Joe Burrow sustains pressure on the Bengals to pay Ja'Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, and Trey Hendrickson

Starting point is 00:00:00 It's been two months since Joe Burrow first brought up. Yeah, T's a neat. That continues and that pressure that Joe Burroughs applying to the Bengals front office continued at the Pro Bowl games. Let's break it down. You are Locked on Bengals, your daily Cincinnati Bengals podcast. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. What up Bengals fans and welcome to another episode of the Locked On Bengals podcast. I'm your host, Jake Liskow.

Starting point is 00:00:34 He's your host, James Rupin. We are Lockdown Bengals, your team, every day on YouTube and everywhere you get your podcast on the Lockdown Podcast Network. And today it's time to analyze some Joe Burrow comments. The Pro Bowl games behind us, Joe Burrow continuing to take every opportunity when asked to exert pressure on the Bengals front office to keep their good players, their great players, their elite players on the team. And not taking for granted his.

Starting point is 00:01:05 platform. And it's so interesting, James, when you think about how Joe Burrow is doing this consistently, it sounds very reasonable every time he talks about it and reflecting on the Carson Palmer example in juxtaposition. That's one of the comparisons we'll make in today's episode. We're going to get to today. Today's episode brought to you by game time where you can create an account and use code a locked on NFL to get $20 off on your first purchase of tickets. And James, let's dive in to this pressure that Joe Burrow has been consistently using his platform speaking with the media to put on the Bengals front office knowing what we know now. The Duke Tobin has met with Joe Burrow to talk about the offseason at this point. Yeah, it's, it's so interesting to me because Joe Burrow is doing

Starting point is 00:01:51 something that he's never done, never done. He's always been the good soldier. He never whined and complained about the offensive line, even though the entire city was whining and complaining about the offensive line. When his knee got shredded, when he came back and had to wear a bulky knee brace that he absolutely hated to wear, when he was playing through an MCL injury during that entire playoff run, all of these times, right, and gets to Super Bowl 56. There's been so many times, other than that, where people have spoke up for him and said, oh, well, this front office needs to do this and that. And so he goes to his first Pro Bowl games and is in attendance because he is healthy and they aren't participating in the Super Bowl.

Starting point is 00:02:33 and all of the things that come with that. And he's asked multiple times, and it started on Thursday night, on ESPN, asked about Jamar Chase's future, which makes sense. Jamar's there. Asked about Jamar Chase's future. And he says a bunch of awesome stuff about Jamar Chase,

Starting point is 00:02:51 including I don't know what more he could show and do to prove himself. But then he makes it about T. Hendricksson and T. Higgins as well. Quote, we have several guys that like that, who have stepped up for us and deserved to be paid and deserve to be paid what they're worth. And then, two days later on Saturday, he's being interviewed by Sirius XM, NFL Radio, and he's asked, hey, how is this team going to keep Jamar and T and Trey?

Starting point is 00:03:17 It's a question that everyone across the league is asking. And Joe made it very clear. And I think that this one's maybe more important than the other because he's asked about Trey as well. And he says, yeah, we can make it happen. We can make it happen. It just has to be right for everybody. involved. I know the players want to make it work. We all want to be together. I don't see it not

Starting point is 00:03:39 working out, but we'll see. And that ability to say, yeah, what we want to be here. I don't see why it wouldn't work out. He isn't treating it like this mountain that I think the 31 other NFL teams are that analysts are across the league. In the past, the Bengals might treat it as. And he's like, yeah, of course we can get it done and we can make it happen. And so pressure's on, Jake, because he does make it sound extremely simple. Even if it is more difficult behind the scenes, Joe Burrell clearly wants the Bengals stars, whether it's T. Hendricks and Jamar Chase or T. Higgins to be in Stripes next season and beyond. Yeah, there is some acknowledgement of that difficulty, even in the quote. It's not the flashy part of the quote, but it's got to make sense for everybody involved.

Starting point is 00:04:28 He does recognize that it's got a still a negotiation. He uses different language around the Duke Tobin, right? Like you read the Duke Tobin quotes compared to the Joe Burrow quote. And there's the player talking about negotiations, and then there's a representative of the team talking about negotiations. So I think that's a big part of the difference in the tenor between a Duke Tobin talking about this and a Joe Burrow talking about this, where Duke is still going to praise a player.

Starting point is 00:04:55 But he's immediately going to be like, God, but I don't want to give up all my negotiating leverage here publicly. I want to maintain my negotiating posture when I'm giving public comments about negotiations that we haven't necessarily started yet. And so I do find that interesting. He does still acknowledge, you know, that there is some difficulty to it, but I know the players want to make it work. We all want to be together.

Starting point is 00:05:17 I don't see it not working out. T. Higgins is a need. T. Higgins is a need. T. Higgins is a need. I mean, how many times did he say that? Not this quote, but previously. And you compare that to the way that he talked about Jesse Bates before Jesse Bates departed the Bengals.

Starting point is 00:05:36 He talked about Jesse Bates with praise. I think you want to reward the work he's done for the last four years through the ups and downs. He's exactly the kind of player. I think you want to reward. But that's a little bit different, maybe a lot different, than the way that he's repeatedly talked about the group of stars they have now that have

Starting point is 00:06:00 major contract decisions coming up. And I do find it interesting that he's continuing to talk about it this way at the poll after we know that he's had that conversation with Duke Tobin, that Duke Tobin told Kelsey Conway about immobile when that interview happened. And maybe he learned from the Jesse part of it. Honestly, maybe it's like, I do need to speak up. like this year during all the struggles on the field, he's like, yeah, I need to be more of a leader.

Starting point is 00:06:26 And so now maybe he's looking around like, all right, we're not, I mean, in that quote at the end of the year where it's like we can't keep letting good players get out of the building. Yeah. And I'm paraphrasing, that's not exactly what he said, but basically. You can't make that a habit. Yeah, you can't make a living on letting great players leave the building, something like that.

Starting point is 00:06:47 Yep. I mean, they start and fix the Jesse void. They still haven't filled that. someone say they still haven't filled the at least through 2022 the Andrew Whitworth or Kevin Zitler voids you know you get at Orlando Brown Jr. I think that's filled but you get my point is it takes a long time to fill or backfill when you lose a T. Higgins or a Jesse Bates or a Marvin Jones or a Kevin Zitler or a it's just hard it's not easy to replace those guys

Starting point is 00:07:17 and so it was like all right let's get it doesn't it doesn't have to be But it is for this team. We know it is for this team. Like there's definitely a contingent out there that looks at this stuff and is like, oh, they can replace a receiver. They can replace an edge. But like, hypothetically, they can, but they just, they haven't been able to do it in all of those examples.

Starting point is 00:07:38 When's the last great edge rusher they drafted? Great. Like, does Carlos Dunlap count? It would probably be Dunlap. Really good. Yeah. Really good edge rusher. Like borderline pro bowler.

Starting point is 00:07:50 It would be Dunlap, right? It's Dunlap and Justin Smith, who was like a tweener and... I was in grade school. You were in high school. You're older than me. I was in freaking grade school when they drafted Justin Smith. Yeah. All right.

Starting point is 00:08:03 I mean, I guess junior high, probably. It was 2004, I believe it was. Or no, it was earlier than that. It wasn't 04. Yeah, I was definitely in grade school. You were in junior high. The point is, is it's been a really long time, Jake. And in the other element of this, in this,

Starting point is 00:08:20 this matters as much as any is you have this elite quarterback that some think is the best in the NFL, some think he's second, some think he's fourth, it doesn't matter. He's one of those dudes. And that's probably the lowest you could put him objectively. It's fourth in the NFL. Like, the window is now. It cannot be, well, let's slow play this and sustain it and all that. All of that is silly talk when you've seen how hard it is to win,

Starting point is 00:08:57 even when he's playing at an elite level. And so I think that's part of it. And there's plenty here. You mentioned the Carson Palmer analogy. And I think that's on the minds of a lot of fans, not analogy, but comparison in the timeline in Burroughs approach versus Palmer. So we'll get into that. We'll get into more of this conversation because the pressure,

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Starting point is 00:10:45 Carson wasn't taking interviews and press conferences and talking about the changes he wanted to see the Bengals make. And eventually he asks for a trade because he's unhappy with the way the Bengals are doing business, because the Bengals have been slow to change after he had been paid and immediately becomes a supervillain in the eyes of Bengals fans, giving up on the city, giving up on the team. Those are the kinds of things people still say. about Carson Palmer and of course Palmer not endearing himself to Bengals fans with his comments over the last few years talking about Joe Burrow and the way they're building the team around Joe Burrow and the risks they're running with Joe Burrow.

Starting point is 00:11:28 And despite what Bengals fans might think of Carson Palmer, there's also definitely a contingent James I've seen of Bengals fans that are concerned that if the Bengals mismanaged a situation, that Burrough is going to approach the levels of disgruntled that Carson Palmer eventually reached with the Bengals. So a lot there in terms of the differences in approach and the risks that the Bengals potentially could be running if they do manage to piss off Joe Burrow, which I mean, it's something that we probably need to talk about,

Starting point is 00:12:02 but I do find it interesting to think about the two different quarterbacks and put them side by side a little bit. For sure. And that's why I think Joe is handling this the right way. Everything is public. It's not going to be shocking if T. Higgins signs elsewhere and then Joe rips the organization for doing that. He already said it would be extremely disappointing already. And then follow that up with saying T. Higgins is a need. And, you know, all of the things that he's commented on. Of course he feels that way about T. Hendrickson. Of course he feels that way about Jammar Chase.

Starting point is 00:12:34 And I don't think we really doubt that Jammar is going to be here long term. But the how you get there matters too, and I think that's part of why Joe is being so vocal now, is if I had to guess, he said that they want to be together. He talked to TET's like, yeah, I would love to be there. Love to stay here and be in Cincinnati. I'm sure that happened. I'm sure that conversation happened. Jamar obviously wants to be in Cincinnati and be with Joe. Tray loves it here and wants to be compensated fairly. From Joe's vantage point, it's like, all right, well, these are our best players. Why wouldn't you do that? especially when, and I get it, this Bengals organization has changed. They're far more aggressive

Starting point is 00:13:17 and free agency than they were in past years in the pre-Joe Burrow era. At the same time, if you're Joe Burrow and you're looking at their free agent haul from last year, Mike Gassiki was a hit. Tren Brown fit well, but it was a bargain, a bargain signing. Zach Moss fit well. I think certainly a better fit than fans and Joe respected him, but it obviously, they didn't work out and he got hurt there in the middle of the year. But it's not like you're looking at a bunch of hits like you saw in 2020 and 2021. And you know what these guys are. So it's really tough.

Starting point is 00:13:55 I think it would be tough to convince Joe, hey, letting T.Walk make sense for this reason. Or doing this makes sense for that. Like that's a tough sell. And good luck doing it. Good luck selling that. when he knows what they have in these guys. And just because the pieces around them weren't good enough to win, because I hear this all the time,

Starting point is 00:14:18 oh, well, they went nine and eight with them. What are they going to be like? It's like, no. It doesn't mean that they shouldn't keep these guys. It means the other pieces around them. The other 48, I'm going to put Orlando Brown Jr. in this, too. The other 48 players around the top five guys on the roster need to be better. And that's their mindset.

Starting point is 00:14:37 And they can do that with, keeping these guys. And I think that's Joe's point the whole time. And so we'll see if it happens. I do like that it's public, though, and not just from a content standpoint, but from a, a holding the organization accountable standpoint, much more easy to do it when it's, when it's out there and you're being as transparent as Joe is. And it never feels unreasonable to me. No. Keep your stars. I mean, it's not, it's not an outlandish thing to say. Whoa. Crazy, right? Keep your best players.

Starting point is 00:15:13 I mean, but there are some people that think it is crazy. There are people that are saying, keeping two wide receivers is crazy. Paying an edge rusher, an extension that would take him into his age 32 and age 33 seasons is crazy. Look at what happens to Eddrusher production when they get on the wrong side of 30. And that's not a crazy reaction either. There's reasonable arguments on both sides of that platform or whatever you want to call it. So I do think that's interesting, but when you look at the Bengals recently and you're talking about, you know, the way that they're changing and being more aggressive in free agency, I kind of question that a little bit. They did early when they had Joe Burr on the rookie contract.

Starting point is 00:15:56 But here again, we're seeing that on the second contract for a quarterback, for the third straight quarterback, they have not been able to sustain success. happened with Carson. It happened with Andy Dalton. And we're only one year in, really, with the Joe Burroughs second contract. But they can't continue to do business that way where they're bargain hunting and free agency and looking to patch pieces together when they're drafting the way they're drafting. If they were drafting great, their free agency approach would work. And I don't think that we would see them necessarily being as aggressive as they've been. So part of me thinks that because they're not drafting as well,

Starting point is 00:16:40 that's why we're seeing this shift in the way that they're running the team. They're still drafting well. Then they have so many players they have to pay to keep because they're good enough players to be starters for this team, that they inevitably lose some, the way they lost someone, they were bringing in cop picks year after year in the Marvin Lewis years. And they would still be following that formula.

Starting point is 00:17:01 And when you're drafting well, the teams that are consistently getting cop picks, you can do that. That also involves bringing in veteran players for one-year deals that then eventually go somewhere else. And this is Baltimore that I'm talking about at this point. Or Callais Campbell, we'll bring up that example again. Still should do it this offseason, by the way. Players like that drafting well, these are things that the Bengals need to be doing in addition to getting back to finding the right fits and free agency that we have not seen them find in the last couple of years.

Starting point is 00:17:34 and we did see them find when Joe Burrow was done as rookie contract. So there is certainly some difference in the way they're doing business now. I'm not saying there's not. But I wonder how different it might look if they were hitting in the draft. Because so much of what they're doing is reacting to trying to fill holes that, like we talked about earlier, it has taken them draft picks and money to replace. Because in risk aversion and not extending players because they're worried about committing money, they're then creating more risk in having to use all these other assets to then eventually replace those players.

Starting point is 00:18:11 Well, I think it's twofold. They started doing that because they stunk after 2019. We knew that. But two, they had to sell Joe a little bit on, hey, we're going to try to win sooner rather than later. This isn't going to be a three-year thing. Like 2020 was hard on Joe as he was learning to lose, essentially. And even in the NFL when you're good, you still lose way more than you. you were used to in high school and college.

Starting point is 00:18:36 So I think that that was part of it, a big part. But you also have to have a plan, and there are going to be less and less high-end players, the Trey Hendricksons, the DJ readers that have worked out that take the structure that they're looking at. And that's the other element here is the structure part of it, There are going to be people that say, don't keep tea, go get this player. And it's like Milton Williams or it's a Trey Smith.

Starting point is 00:19:12 And it's like, okay, will that guy take, be okay with the structure that the Bengals are going to give. And it's a lot of upfront money and no guarantees in your two. Go ahead. The projection for Trey Smith, just because you mentioned that one, PFS second highest rated free agent is 50 million in guarantees on an $82 million deal. There you go. So will they be willing to do that? Does that make them better than keeping T anyway? Because it makes a, and by the way, I think T, that's up for debate, fit-wise.

Starting point is 00:19:44 You know T-fits, and you know he's awesome and he's on the field. And so I think that that's interesting. But would they give $50 million guaranteed to Trey Smith? Let's be real here. Let's be honest. No. The answer is no. That wouldn't happen, especially if they're giving all this guaranteed money to Jammar and possibly Trey.

Starting point is 00:20:00 So there's that. I also have one more point about free agency and kind of the plan, because the plan should involve this paying your stars. Joe thinks that, and I agree with them. And there's probably one more reason why I'll give it coming up next. Today's show is brought to you by Game Time. The big game, well, it is here. And whether you're going to New Orleans or whether you're thinking about opening day with spring training starting later this month, you got to get to all of your favorite events by using Game Time. The GameTime app is going to make it easier.

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Starting point is 00:21:39 But they lucked into Orlando Brown Jr. The big get a few years ago that was from another team, you know, so outside of DJ Reeder and Trey Hendrickson, their big get has been Orlando Brown Jr. And it wasn't like their plan, their free agent plan was, we're going to go get Orlando Brown Jr. Even though they were aware, at least as of the combine, I think it came out publicly that the chiefs weren't franchise tagging him. And so when you throw that in there, it's like, all right, well, they haven't been even close to the big fish hunting in free agency. And if you're not going to hunt big fish in free agency, well, you might as well keep your own. It's just another

Starting point is 00:22:24 point I want to put out there. And not only keep your own, but keep your own aggressively. Because they cost themselves money, they cost themselves picks consistently when they wait until the last minute to get these deals done. We've seen it with Jesse Bates. They've had to go through two, and they cost themselves wins. They had to spend draft picks. They had to spend money on free agents to try to fill that role for cheaper and increasing amounts of money. They tried to go real cheap. Then they went mid-level in consecutive years from Nick Scott to Gino Stone. And neither of those look like the ideal fit, especially if they want to go play a whole bunch of single high and do a bunch of man, if that is how Golden's plan for this defense that we haven't

Starting point is 00:23:04 gotten into in depth. And there will be differences between Notre Dame and what he does in Cincinnati, it sounds like. But they cost themselves money in picks when they try to replace players. Either say they retain T. Higgins, PFF projecting him at $28 million per year. If you're optimistic and you say T-Change agents because he wants to stay in Cincinnati, He's talked about not even get paid as the number one receiver. He wants to save with Joe Burrow and he takes a hometown discount.

Starting point is 00:23:30 If you're real optimistic about that, right? Maybe T takes 27. You save a million dollars a year. Maybe it's a little bit more. Maybe it's a little bit less. How much would it have cost you to extend T when he was first eligible to extend him two years ago? 22 million per. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:23:48 I'm serious. I think that's pretty accurate. I'm pretty sure a four-year $88 million deal. would have got that thing done. You're costing yourself money by waiting. That's how this always works. And not only are you costing yourself money, you're costing yourself goodwill with players,

Starting point is 00:24:05 goodwill with your fans, on the field, and draft picks. And we've seen this over and over with the Bengals. It's one of the biggest criticisms that I consistently levy at this front office is be more proactive. Get out in front of these things.

Starting point is 00:24:20 Because when they do, for extensions? Like when's the last extension they did that it really didn't work out? They've had some guys that they've extended into their 30s where maybe they didn't like the way that that went. But then they let Andrew Whitworth walk and he was in his 30s and that's a unique case, I know.

Starting point is 00:24:37 But that one didn't work out. I think getting in front of these extensions is something that this team is risk-averse when they do. But it's this paradox of like they won't take that risk, but then they expose themselves to more risk. And they end up costing themselves more money and more resources because they won't take those steps when they've got the players on their team.

Starting point is 00:25:04 And when they do, like Trey Hendrickson, they gave an extension and that one they're not upset about. He just gave them an all-pro year as part of the reward for getting that one-year extension done previously. They should have tried two. Yeah. Then we wouldn't be talking about this right now, right? wouldn't have had the trade demand and all that stuff.

Starting point is 00:25:23 He was coming off of an eight-sac. He was coming off of an eight-sac season. Like, I get not wanting to go too far with it at that time. It sounds crazy now, but like it's not as, it's not like he was coming off of a 17-sack season, and they only gave him a year. But sometimes with your own guys, you have to look beyond.

Starting point is 00:25:44 And this is fee, too. Like, you have to get past some of these things. Like the Jesse Basing, he has been a pro bowler. Remember that? or T with the injury stuff or Trey he has a down year for sacks with the pressures are still there he's still the same player you got to get past some of the production with some of these things and take that risk and save yourself some of these assets and I keep coming back to so Jammar better get done everyone knows it Trey you've reached an extension with him twice so it's not like you can't negotiate with his agent right and get something done and find common ground in T why do you think he switched agents? He didn't switch agents

Starting point is 00:26:24 because he really, really wants to go to Tampa, okay? Now, that doesn't mean you don't have to get it done, but there's a reason why he switched agents, and part of that has to do with his desire, his want, and where he wants to be. And that doesn't mean you can offer him $20 million a year. It's not what I'm saying, or 22 or 23. But can you get him for,

Starting point is 00:26:48 a market deal that's slightly less or significantly less. If he hits the market, he might get $35 million per. There might be a bidding where he might get to 37. He might beat Justin Jefferson. You know why? Because the Patriots and the Chargers and all these other teams are going to be competing against each other. It's much different when the guy hits the market. If T. Higgins hits the market, he's 100% gone. There's no scenario where he comes back. I promise you. And you probably agree with this. And it is far more likely that he gets 35 plus million per year if he hits the market then coming back to Cincinnati. So you can't let it happen is my point. And then we have the same question that we've been asking if that does happen, right? For months. Who are they

Starting point is 00:27:33 paying? If they're not paying T and they're not paying Trey Hendrickson? I'm available. I'm available. Five million per. I don't know what I'll be doing. I'm not going to help the team win, but I'll sit there and work out and use the facility. There's all this hand wringing over, there's only so much money. There's only so much cap space. Yeah. And I get it. That is true, especially the way the Bengals managed the cap.

Starting point is 00:28:00 And we would like that to change. But even putting that aside, even putting aside how they manage the cap. Plenty of money. Yep. There's so much money and so much cap space. Because there's no one to pay. Are they just bringing back all of these underperforming better like Sheldon Ranks is coming back all of a sudden because you need to spend money like

Starting point is 00:28:18 that's an extreme example but you get my point right the money has to go somewhere and so if you let if you're letting T walk and you're trading tray and what was it you said before the show you trading tray for a second and third round pick the most recent second and third round picks you're trading tray for Chris Jenkins and McKinley Jackson or Jermaine Burton hey let's do it for all three who would you rather have Yeah. Pretty simple. Not a hard choice. Not to throw any shade of the Bengals Young players here, but no. It's hard to get that right, especially for this team. I just, I just, I don't see the alternative that I trust this team to execute as part of the problem I have with the alternatives being suggested. Like, yeah, if you're a competent team, trading tray could make sense. And you, you would probably have a replacement for T or or or a plan there. And maybe it's not so crazy. But for this team, I have a really hard time seeing the alternative. And they're supposed to be in contention, not a playoff contender.

Starting point is 00:29:25 This isn't 2013 Andy Dalton Bengals. Yeah. It's much different. And that's where I go to. And so Joe Borough public pressure, history, we've laid out everything. I mean, it needs to happen. We'll see if it happens. Obviously, we're going to talk more about this throughout the,

Starting point is 00:29:47 the off-season jacks no this is it yeah right it it would be not done deal yeah we're going to talk about uh we'll just point people to this episode no well we'll continue to talk about it this is going to continue to come up we'll continue to break down the financial aspect of this as well we'll try to find the alternatives at some point because we're probably going to have to examine the alternatives if these deals don't get done in the next couple of weeks and the combine I think is when what we'll start to see this really heat up. If we're talking about when this could happen, the combine is traditionally when a lot of this stuff would really start to pick up

Starting point is 00:30:28 and we'll potentially hear a little bit more about it. And that's pretty close now too. How far away are you from the combine, James? A couple weeks. A few weeks. Jake might take a boat to a plane, to another plane, to another plane to the combine. That is what it takes for me to travel east.

Starting point is 00:30:47 That's going to do it for this episode of the Lockdown Bengals podcast. Until next time, thanks for listening. Hootay and have a good one. Bengals be like, that's what it takes for us to sign our best guys.

Locked On Bengals - Daily Podcast On The Cincinnati Bengals - Joe Burrow sustains pressure on the Bengals to pay Ja'Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, and Trey Hendrickson

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