Locked On Bengals - Daily Podcast On The Cincinnati Bengals - Joe Burrow THRIVING with continuity | Catching up on Bengals minicamp takeaways

Starting point is 00:00:00 Joe Burrow has looked pretty good throughout minicamp, but we haven't had a chance to talk about it. Let's catch up on everything that's gone on on the field for the Bengals throughout Minicap. You are Locked on Bengals, your daily Cincinnati Bengals podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. What up, Bengals fans, and welcome to another episode of the Lockdown Bengals podcast on the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. I'm Jake Liskow. he's James Rapine, we've been on this podcast, on Lockdown Bengals. For so many years, I can't count them.

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Starting point is 00:01:07 we're really co-opted by increasing contract drama, focused on Shamar Stewart that will not be a topic of deep conversation, although it might come up in today's episode, making no promises there. But the goal for today is to focus on what happened on the field and revisit the coordinator comments about the players that are standing out and see how that meshes up with what you've observed from being there in person, watching these guys,

Starting point is 00:01:35 in one open practice a week for a while throughout the off-season program into the three open practices throughout mini-camp itself before the summer break. We are now, of course, officially in that summer break for the Cincinnati Bengals, where we won't expect to really hear much from the team until the gear up for training camp. And so we'll have you covered, of course, when breaking news happens here on lockdown Bengals. But until then, we'll continue our regular schedule for this part of the year, which involves episodes going up to you on Sunday, Tuesdays and Thursdays, but James without further deliberation, adieu.

Starting point is 00:02:12 Let's talk offense. Let's start with the offense. Let's start with Joe Burrow, the engine for this team. We haven't talked a lot about what's happened on the field. And Joe Burrow, quietly having a really nice offseason and maybe quietly is why it's so nice, is that we're not wringing hands over Joe Burrow throughout the offseason program here in June. as much drama and discussion as there's been jake about all the non-football stuff in the business side you're right it's been nice because we've just gotten to watch joe burrow and not

Starting point is 00:02:46 wonder is he going to throw today is he not going to throw today how's he going to look oh my goodness did you they have enough velocity on that ball do we how you feel a joe and by the way he's not completely past the wrist still working his way through it and i think it's interesting that that he's just been so upfront about that, certainly better today than he was three months ago, even. And we saw him play at the best year of his career. So he's fine from that perspective. But what I do think is interesting is kind of his evolution.

Starting point is 00:03:17 And I talked to two Bengals veterans on the final day of mini camp after practice. And they were both like, yeah, he's making throws and decisions. not that they're bad decisions, but they're more contested situations and tight windows that he doesn't usually make until training can. And I think that's interesting, that he's doing that and that it's probably a testament to where he is and where he hopes to go. If you're getting from a throw standpoint, I'm not saying he's doing the same routine that he would in training camp, but if you're from a throw standpoint and an accuracy standpoint,

Starting point is 00:03:56 you're seeing him take the chances and risks that he usually does in August, but he's doing it in June. Then I wonder what he's going to be doing over the next five to six weeks when everyone gets back in July in August and they're practicing in camp because he knows that he can take it to another level. And I think we may be seeing that. And that's what's going to be really, really fun is as well as he played last year, he was still dealing with the wrist.

Starting point is 00:04:26 Still is to a lesser degree now. And for as well as he played last year, I think he went back, watched and said, I can do this, this, this, this, and this better. And he hasn't really been specific on exactly what because I think there are a bunch of different areas where he thinks he can improve. And at least to this point,

Starting point is 00:04:45 veterans that have seen him have noticed a bit of a difference. And that's usually the way to, I think the way to gauge it is off-camera. conversation. Is this happening? And sometimes they'll just bring it up to you. And the two guys I talked to initially about it brought it up to me, not the other way. I wasn't like, oh, how's Joe looking?

Starting point is 00:05:08 I was like, man, Joe was the other way. So I think that's pretty noteworthy. Yeah, I think that his ability to get through this continuous, well, we'll go back to that word, this word continuity that sit out when Joe Burrow talked early last week. Paul Dainer followed up and asked Dan Pitcher about that when Dan Pitcher spoke with the media the next day. And pitcher spoke about that advantage. And the idea that you have this group of skill players and this passing offense, passing offense specifically, right?

Starting point is 00:05:43 Because at this time of the year, getting a feel for what's different in the run game, the tweaks they've made in the run game, when pads aren't on, when there isn't live hitting, which you're never going to get live hitting, I don't think. in a Zach Taylor training camp, but when their pads aren't on, especially, you don't really get a good feel for, you know, what's going on with the run get? You can't really figure that out at this time of you.

Starting point is 00:06:06 But in the past game, where we talked about the advantage of not having to catch up a rookie or be like, hey, yeah, you're learning the playbook. This is how we want things to work off script. And catching up how exactly certain routes should be run against certain coverages and certain concepts. Not having to do all that and having guys that Joe Burrow trusts and has that rapport with, that extends to Mike Keseki, that extends to Chase Brown in the passing game.

Starting point is 00:06:35 That extends to Andre Yosevaash in his third year. And we'll see how that emerges with Jermaine Burton, who no longer has that distinct pressure to be a guy that should be competing for starting snaps, at least not right away. At least not any time soon, not in the foreseeable future. a lot of time on task with Charlie Jones at this point, who will see what happens and how much he's able to stay on the field. Every single weapon on this team, even Drew Sample, every single player that is an eligible receiver on this team,

Starting point is 00:07:11 Samajai Piron, has a lot of time on task with Joe Burrow in this offense. So where they are, you're talking about trying to put the ball in different places, making throws that you wouldn't normally make it this time of year. well, when you have that kind of continuity in your passing game, that can accelerate how you're working on things in the off season. And you don't have as much catching up to do. Yeah, there's little tweaks to make here and there. Sure. But when your core offense is what it is and it's successful, when you have the same players, you can be more advanced earlier in the off season.

Starting point is 00:07:45 And hopefully that then pays those dividends, those continuity dividends because they are hopefully ahead of the game right now. Yeah, I think that's something that we can talk about Jermaine Burton and Charlie Jones to a degree and in kind of the supporting cast. When you have Andre Yosevash, and it's easy to see that he's taking a step. Dan pitcher saying, oh, yeah, he's walking around with his chest out now. And that's much different than a year or two ago. Not that he wasn't confident. That's what I think is super unique. I think Andre got in the building.

Starting point is 00:08:24 And early on as a rookie, they were like, oh, he's definitely not a six-round pick. Yeah. Like this guy pretty quick. Can have, yeah, from a mental standpoint, physical standpoint, it didn't need to learn the nuance of the position to the level that they thought he would, being a Princeton wide receiver coming from that league and coming to this league. Obviously, they knew he was smart and athletic. But they didn't know what would happen that quickly.

Starting point is 00:08:50 And so for that to kind of be cemented, and he's cemented as wide receiver three when I'm talking strictly about the wide receivers. And then Mike Gisicki to just be a safety net for Joe. And I saw that in seven on seven throughout the OTAs and certainly mini camp is it's like, all right, well, Joe's holding it, holding it. And like, if first read, second read aren't there, you're like, oh, well, he completed that pass? who was that? And without even looking, you could usually guess when it was going to 88. And Mike Gisicki might have led them in reception, certainly close. I mean, obviously, Jamar is going to be Jamar. And oddly enough, I think Charlie Jones had a bunch of catches from Joe. So who knows who actually led, but I do think that Gisickey is just picking up where he left off when they had to really rely on him in games last year.

Starting point is 00:09:44 And certainly at the end of the year, when he was a big part of what they were doing, it's a great, place to be because then we can say, oh, well, can you imagine how Germain is going to fit or how Charlie's going to fit? And I think there's a bit more there and certainly on offense. We haven't even mentioned a top 10 running back in the league, not my words, but we'll get to it coming up next. Today's show is brought to you by Game Time. Game Time is the app you need for live events all summer long. And maybe it's the NBA finals that are still going. Let's see if the Pacers can handle business. It's the app you need. I've had family members. You've used game time. I've used game time to the Eastern Conference Finals. It was my first NBA playoff game. So whether it's sports, whether it's the

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Starting point is 00:11:32 Before we do, wanted to circle back to a player on offense that Dan Pitcher mentioned. James, you're talking about Mike Gaseki. You're also talking about hilariously to me. I'm just going to take a job

Starting point is 00:11:48 with the Browns here. OTA stats and who leads and receptions. Have you seen the stuff like coming out of Browse camp like the Shepter Sanders staff. Yeah, like I was just observing. I didn't keep track, but there are real stats with their 52 quarterbacks. It's so funny. I hope that they start Kenny picking. But what I was going to say is going back to Mike Gaseki is the damn pitcher comment.

Starting point is 00:12:16 I figured out how to really use Mike Gaseki when they had T. Higgins and Jemar Chase in the second half of the season. And that's what Dan Pitcher talked about. Like early in the season, it was, okay, we don't have T. Mike Kisicki can take some of that. Or, you know, we have a game plan that is a Mike Kisiki. But then later in the year, they talk about, okay, now it's the, they're doubling, they're running double double outside or something.

Starting point is 00:12:40 They got doubles on, they got a bracket on T, they got a bracket on Jammar. Now, now that's where we can really exploit things with Mike. And so that level of continuity, again, to use that. word at the tight end position, which is something that we kind of have not seen with the Joe Burrow offense. They've been doing the rented tight end thing every single year. This first time they have a consistent second year with a receiving tight end, maybe we're making too much of that and it's going to be a similar year.

Starting point is 00:13:08 Wouldn't be surprised if it's somewhat similar from a productivity perspective for Gaseki because he had some big games in lieu of T. Higgins at times. But if it's more of a seamless, not so up and down, like we have a consistent plan for Gosecchi that we know how he can contribute on a week-to-week basis. That, I think, would be interesting considering pitchers' comments. They kind of figured it out, like, as they went last year, now they don't have to figure it out again with a new player at that position. Yeah, I think that is a huge part.

Starting point is 00:13:41 Because Gisiki is a weapon that you need to worry about. And last year, when you're talking one-year deal, you can be like this little complimentary piece that is relevant some weeks and other weeks not. And that'll still be the case when you have weapons like they have. But they paid him to be a dude. And they're like, man, you fit. You're going to be a dude.

Starting point is 00:14:01 Joe loves you. Joe thinks you're reliable. I mentioned the safety net part of it. I think that's a very real thing that we're going to see consistently this year. And that's when they can go to go to the next level because you know that Mike Gisickey not fits, not just fits and has the skill set, but already knows ABCDE. So now you're already starting with that next letter. And in the moment the offseason program started, it wasn't like, oh, well, Joe wants you to stop here, turn here, all the little nuances and intricacies of work.

Starting point is 00:14:33 You don't have to do that. And the fit, like you know it's a great fit. So it makes sense. And it's going to be a big part of it because we've seen both guys. Jamar Chase has been nicked up at times. Obviously, everyone knows about T. Higgins and what's happened. those guys are going to get nicked up. But even if they're healthy for 17 games,

Starting point is 00:14:55 it is great to have a big, long, athletic, tight end that can make plays over the middle of the field, especially if you do run that double-double. Because you can run double-double. And Joe's like, all right, well, I'll throw it to 88. I'll throw it to 88 again. Okay, we'll have 12 catches today. Or, there you go.

Starting point is 00:15:14 Or go ahead. I was going to say Yoshi, but specifically Chase Brown. I thought you were going to Chase Brown. I was going to get there. We were going to get there. But you can't ignore Yoshi. But Chase Brown in the receiving game continues to grow his role. He has a great understanding and awareness that that is what the offense is in Cincinnati.

Starting point is 00:15:36 And while he might be this home run threat as a runner, and he is, if he can find a seam, he's got that speed. The focus that Chase Brown has continually put in over his NFL career so far in, and pass protection in getting as much receiving work as he can possibly get has earned him this praise from Dan pitcher. Yeah, I love, I love it because Dan pitcher without blinking said he's a top 10 back, just without blinking. And it's like, man, like they view. And I think that that would be considered a take in NFL circles right now, but maybe not eight games in.

Starting point is 00:16:18 maybe you feel that way. Like maybe because if he takes another step and what I think is interesting, you mentioned the receiving part of it. As a route runner, he's nasty. I mean, he's gotten really,

Starting point is 00:16:31 really good at that. And when you have that ability and you're working out with Andre Yosevash in Atlanta and in running receiver routes and doing things like that to fit in an offense where they're obviously going to throw the ball all over the field. I'm excited. I'm excited to see what what he can do as the full-time guy for a full season. And the past catching part of it is a huge part of it because it just gives Joe another answer.

Starting point is 00:17:03 And if you give Joe answers, he's going to be able to combat it any which way. And that's the goal. That should be the goal of any offense that has Joe Burrow a quarterback. And a fun nugget that I learned. And some of you may know this, but regardless, Andre Yosevash, Chase Brown, Charlie Jones, all three of them are going to be working out together basically for, I would say four out of the five weeks that they're not in Cincinnati between now and training camp.

Starting point is 00:17:34 And it's huge because I think Charlie's in a different place than those other two guys, but it's going to make him better. And I think all three guys are hoping to take a big step forward and help this team. And there's no reason to think that Andre can't take a step forward, like you mentioned, or Chase. And for Charlie Jones, taking a step forward is going to be healthy, being healthy and contributing on offense when needed and obviously winning that returner job. So we'll see if he does that, but a fun nugget. Only so many targets to go around is part of it.

Starting point is 00:18:05 That's probably keeping a cap on Yoshi. And honestly, Mike Keseki, like, people might be listening to this thinking, oh, I should definitely make sure I'm targeting Gassiki from a fantasy perspective. And I'm not sure I would give that advice, especially with his career touchdown rate. Like he's not a prolific touchdown score in the NFL. He hasn't been. He could be. Hasn't really been his game in the NFL.

Starting point is 00:18:26 And just the structure of the Bengals offense kind of caps a little bit. The non-Jemar Chase D. Higgins productivity on a consistent basis, at least. But really cool to see the trust Joe Burrow has established with these guys. Part of the reason that he wanted Gaseki back, that Gaseki was on the list. Obviously, great connection with T. Higgins and Jemar Chase. That should be the thing that is the bellwether for the offense. That's carrying the offense, right?

Starting point is 00:18:56 And where we have the concern on the offense that we haven't really talked about as much as we otherwise could have, despite mentioning the veteran guard options probably at least once a week for the last couple months, is the right guard spot is shaking out to be a competition between Cody Ford and Lucas Because Patrick, the left guard spot seems like it's going to be Dylan Fairchild's. And I'm not hearing, perceiving a ton of competition there. And James, I'll let you fill us in on what's going on with those guard spots. Those starting spots are a little bit uncertain on the Bengals offense right now.

Starting point is 00:19:30 Then we'll shift gears, talk about the defense and the newcomers on defense. Who stood out to Al Golden and his comments to the media? We'll do that coming up next. I'm not sure, Jake, that the Dylan Fairchild left guard competition is going to be a huge competition. It feels like he's got to earn the job. Like, that's a fact. But I think it's his job to fumble away. And I would give it basically the same thing as second round pick.

Starting point is 00:20:07 And I'm not saying this is strictly from a mindset standpoint from the bank. When the Bengals selected Jackson Carmen, they thought that he was going to start, like that day on draft night. You agree with that? Oh, yeah, 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I'm not saying that Dylan Fairchild is Jackson Carmen from a player standpoint, but strictly from a mindset standpoint.

Starting point is 00:20:27 When they drafted Jackson, they thought he was going to start. I think that's the same thing here with Dylan Fairchild. And so Dylan would have to come in out of shape. That's not going to happen, not improve. I don't think that's going to happen. And you talk to, and I asked Dan Pitcher, like, how is he at handling making mistakes? And he gets really, really frustrated and holds himself accountable and wants to understand the offense and all of those things. And I think that's exactly what you need.

Starting point is 00:20:58 And if he does that, there's no reason why he's not going to be the starting left guard. I think it's his job to lose by far. And I think he's going to win because he's going to win. because he's going to do all of the muck and dirty stuff that you need, the dirty work on the field, and he's going to do everything he needs to do mentally to be ready. It doesn't mean he's going to be good, but he's going to put himself in position because he works hard. And I haven't heard anyone say otherwise. So I think Dylan Fairchild is by far the favorite.

Starting point is 00:21:29 And early in camp, we could see the white flag from a competition standpoint. It would not shock me one bit. Now, is that a good thing? hopefully. Yeah, hopefully he runs away with it because he's awesome. But we don't really know yet. Like it's very likely that Dylan Fairchild is going to win the job. We haven't seen him in pads in a Cincinnati Bengals practiced jersey yet, period.

Starting point is 00:21:53 And then we won't see that until a few days into training camp. They'll do their warm-up period in training camp. Then they'll get the pads on. We'll see him a ton in the preseason, I imagine. And we'll see how he looks there. He's a rookie third-round pick at left card. Those guys can be good. A lot of times it takes him a little bit of time.

Starting point is 00:22:08 time. If he can be okay, if he can survive his rookie year, much like honestly, Amarious Min survived his rookie year while showing those flashes and showing everything that he can be. And then it's just a question of, okay, you just need to do a little bit more consistently. The game just needs to slow down for you a little bit. Normal rookie to second year jump kind of things we're talking about with Dylan Fairchild next year. Great. That's awesome. The right guard, we're going to continue to talk about the veteran options because a competition between Cody Ford and Lucas Patrick is potential Achilles heel. And I think that until proven otherwise, I think that that is my perspective on the right guard spot right now.

Starting point is 00:22:50 Those guys being the guys that are competing, we haven't heard anything about Jalen Rivers getting into that job, into that competition at all. haven't heard cordal volson's name really once since we talked about his renegotiated deal his pay cut and so that's the that's the offensive line that's going to be a story come training camp come preseason not a story that we have a ton to talk about now because of what they do in the off-season program yeah they're one-on-ones they're past walking drills all that stuff but can't get a good feel for that stuff until you're watching real football. Yeah. It's the one-on-ones are big. I will say that I talked to, and I might have said this on last show, but I'll say it anyway. One veteran was like, man, Dylan is getting so many awesome reps now in these one-on-ones. And I don't think they were doing them last year at this time. And Scott Peters and

Starting point is 00:23:49 Jerry Montgomery got together and we're like, and this can be our segue to the defense too, got together and wanted to do them. And the guy, you can guess, probably have an idea of who it is, was like, oh, all you're doing is one-on-one blocking in this offense in a lot of situations. It's like, you've got to be able to win that way. And so he's had so many more reps that he wouldn't have gotten otherwise with these one-on-one. So hopefully that helps him.

Starting point is 00:24:18 Hopefully it does. But I think he's made of the right stuff. And I think Dylan is going to be a good player. it's just will it be this year and how you're right can he survive can he be a little better than that even yeah i wonder that's that that would be the hope as a starter and and so we'll see but i do think he's gotten some valuable reps and part of that is is because the approach in the trenches in general i think has has shifted on the offensive line and and obviously on defense as well maybe he blows away our expectations we would we would all welcome that from a

Starting point is 00:24:54 guard pick for the first time in a decade or longer. I don't know the last time a guard blew expectations away as a rookie. But on the defensive side of the ball, James Demetrius Knight, second round pick this year, talking about former second round picks, looks like a very likely starter. And we've got Al Golden really quite excited about Joseph O'Sai, quite excited about Cam Sample and where Cam Sample. I mean, the fact that Cam Sample has been full go in the offseason program, less than a year removed from an Achilles. And then Al Golden's talking about how much more athletic he is

Starting point is 00:25:29 than he thought he would be at this point in his recovery. Those are potential good signs. Because I thought Camp Sample was a solid, good piece of this defense last year at this time. Yeah. Like Camp Sample to me last year at this time was he could really dig into Sam Hubbard's snaps. Like he could be better than Sam Hubbard this year.

Starting point is 00:25:50 And we didn't get to see that from him because he got hurt. And so what were your takeaways on the defense set up? Those are the three guys that stood out to me the most from comments. Also seeing where guys in the secondary ending up in coverage as the defense tries to disguise man. And I think you ended up with like Cam, Cam Taylor Britt at safety on a clip that we saw just because of the way the defense is rotating. So those are some things that stood out to me, James. What about you? Yeah, I think one, they're, there are.

Starting point is 00:26:23 all in. They believe in Demetrius and I had a ton. I would agree with that. I think Logan Wilson is someone that they, and Outgold mention this, just how well he's moving, how he looks. They're confident that he can be the dude in the middle of their defense. As far as the secondary is concerned, I think that's what really does stand out is how how they're testing things. Doesn't mean it's going to be that way, but they're certainly testing things and they're trying to see what they got where they have it, what they can do with these guys. And that's interesting to me. It's interesting because you do all of it without certainly the most talented guy in your secondary, Dax Hill, who's running, cutting, moving really well,

Starting point is 00:27:06 expects to be cleared for training camp. And if he's not cleared like day one of camp, he could be cleared like day three. Like I think it would be early on. But knowing the Bengals, and they should do this, they're going to take it slow with him. They're going to ease him in. He's the ultimate guy that can do all of these things. We know he's super versatile. So how do they use him? How does he fit into the mix? That's going to be one of those training camp things to monitor, certainly.

Starting point is 00:27:34 And even early in the season as they're feeling their way through it. But the cam sample thing is interesting to me because I thought that was a super underrated injury that got overlooked. Like Miles Murphy got overlooked last year in camp, McKinley Jackson in camp, and they missed the start. of the season. And I think those guys got a ton of attention. But the Cam Sample one probably hurt, not just because he was out for the season, but early on when you were losing those games, I think he hurt even more so than those other guys because Sam Hubbard was necked up and playing through something right away

Starting point is 00:28:08 after getting hurt in camp. And it's like, yeah, that guy could matter. So, yeah, I was hopeful for him and I still am. And hopefully that that optimism that Al Golden is saying and showing is real and can translate. Because I do think Cam Sample can help this team and be honestly a significant part of their rotation in the trenches. Al Golden seems like he would be a no-nonsense kind of guy. We don't know yet how exactly to parse Al-Golden speak. So when Al-Golden's coming out and fired up for Joseph Osai, does that happen?

Starting point is 00:28:48 Does that mean anything or is it Al Golden's pumping up his guys? We don't know yet. That's one of the interesting things about this, right? Is when he's talking about what's going on with his defense, we haven't heard enough from Al Golden or heard enough from Al Golden when we have evidence, video evidence that tells us something, right? So we got to a point, you get to a point of understanding with coach speak where you can watch a game. and then you can hear the way the coach talks about the game.

Starting point is 00:29:20 And then you can figure out, okay, this is how the coach is relaying his perspective. And you know what you've seen at that point. Lou Aniruma wasn't one to mince words. Not really. He had his favorites, and it wasn't always that his perspective was infallible or anything like that. But you kind of got an idea with Lou over his time in Cincinnati. We don't yet have that with Al Golden. So when we're hearing him talk up Joseph Osai, what's your take on Osai?

Starting point is 00:29:49 Because that was the most glowing of the praise, like excited, excitement for Mal Golden about Joseph Osai so far. We'll see. I've, just because we've heard that praise for Osai. Like I feel like that that's something that we've, you know, we've been down this road. Just like a believe it when you see it kind of guy for you, huh? For sure, especially with the injury history. it's a one-year deal. We'll see.

Starting point is 00:30:17 And I think what I think is really interesting is you get the praise for Osai. And Al did say, I didn't mention every guy, you know, all of those things. But then he doesn't praise Miles. And it doesn't mean anything. But maybe it does mean something. Maybe. That makes sense. Like it could be absolutely nothing, but Miles Murphy didn't get brought up until he was asked about Miles Murphy.

Starting point is 00:30:42 And he said, well, now's the time. And I just, I think that's interesting. Doesn't mean he's not going to be a factor. Does it mean it now isn't the time? Hopefully it is the time. Hopefully, and this is no disrespect to Joseph. Hopefully, Miles beats Joseph for the starting job and outperforms Joseph this year and is better. Now everyone's going to say, well, both.

Starting point is 00:31:04 Well, obviously the best answer is both. And both guys just are awesome. But if you're picking one, you'll want the guy that's under contract next year and you rest of the first round pick in and you think has all this talent. So in an ideal world, Miles would break out before Joseph. But I think it's when you hear stuff like that in the first rounder doesn't get brought up and Al doesn't care about that, but it's just interesting. That's all.

Starting point is 00:31:31 You note that because if that's being said in June and then in mid-August, we're like, oh, 58's playing ahead of 99. Well, then it's like, oh, well, remember what Al said? So we'll see. Yeah, something that we'll be keeping tabs on, obviously, throughout training camp. There's also some kind words for Chris Jenkins and I think McKinley Jackson. I think the most of the defensive line, Cedric Johnson, BJ Hill, even though VJ Hill's not practicing. I think most of those guys did get some sort of words of praise from Al Golden, but what did stand out, I think, and wanted to circle back to the, the Osai stuff.

Starting point is 00:32:11 So interesting players to monitor as the pads come on in training camp. We start to see those rotations and we see these guys that are going to play more in the preseason. We've got a new training camp schedule that we didn't even get to talk about today. Janes are going to be practicing in the morning, which is something that we've at the end of now two shows in a row talked about, but we're not going to get to in a ton of depth. Excited to see that lower temperature at 10 a.m. than at whatever time they did in the afternoon that was brutally hot. 330 or whatever it was. Yeah, the heat gets to, the heat gets to Jake.

Starting point is 00:32:45 It sure does. We don't get that here. Not like that. Not like 100 degrees in a heat index of 120 or whatever it was. Where does he live? Is it Canada? A little bit cooler. A little bit more temper.

Starting point is 00:32:56 What is it to live? Canada? Yeah, Canada. From Cincinnati to anyone hearing that for the first time. I follow up with that every time, went to Princeton. I got, yeah. I let him know. For anyone hearing that for the first time at the end of this episode,

Starting point is 00:33:10 from Cincinnati spent my entire childhood there. But that's going to do it for this episode of the Locked-on Bengals podcast. We'll continue to have you covered next episode Tuesday evening, Tuesday afternoon, barring impending news. Until then, thanks for listening. Hoodey and have a good one.

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