Locked On Bengals - Daily Podcast On The Cincinnati Bengals - NFL Squad: How Myles Garrett, Cooper Kupp Trades Could Impact The NFL, Super Bowl 59 Predictions

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

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Miles Garrett and Cooper Cup are on the training table, but who really wants them? It's time for NFL squad. You are talking ball with the NFL squad, sponsored by game time. From the chiefs to the Bills, Falcons to the 49ers, and everyone else around the NFL, it's the local experts of the Locked-on Podcast Network bringing you scoops, breakdowns, and the most comprehensive preview of the upcoming weekend for hard-hitting football with our harder-hitting takes. Buckle up, it's the NFL squad.

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NFL to get $20 off your first purchase. Joining us here in this squad episode this week is Cody Rourke of Locked on Broncos, Ross Jackson of Locked on Kellynne Moore, Spencer German of Locked on Browns, Kevin Ostriger, Locked on Ravens, Mike DeBate of Lockedon Patriots, and Aaron Freeman of Locked on Falcons, gentlemen. I appreciate all of you coming through. And obviously the main story this week is, of course, the Super Bowl. But the main story that's being talked about while we wait for the main story

to arrive is Miles Garrett. Spencer German. Let's start with you host of Lockdowne Browns. I, for one, am a fan of your take, but let's, let's, what does this mean for Miles? What does this mean for the Cleveland Browns? Yeah, you know, it's funny. I know a couple of you guys are down in New Orleans for the Super Bowl, but I felt like this was the closest, the Browns fans have probably ever felt to like dominating Super Bowl week, like, oh, the Browns came off about the Super Bowl, but they've never actually come to the course to actually playing in it. So it's really for all the wrong reasons. But yeah, you know, I've kind of been in the camp of as long as Miles Garrett wants to be part of this thing, I think you do sort of try to thread the needle on staying competitive, not ripping

it down to the studs. But as soon as this trade request comes out and it's like, hey, I want out. I don't want to be part of this anymore. I think that kind of provides the clarity that you're looking for if you're the Browns for like you don't have to operate in this limbo of are we a team that's close to contending or are we a team that needs to start all over? I think this kind of just tells you, yeah, rip off the Band-Aid and accumulate as many draft picks as possible and start worrying about the draft in 2025 and 26 and getting this thing back on track as soon as you can. Yeah, and I think, you know, there's some conversations being out about this where some people think this is yet another demand to be traded because I actually just want to be paid a lot of money.

Kevin Ostriker locked on Ravens, I want to get your thoughts on that because, man, when I look at this, not only did Miles come out and say, I want to be traded. He said, I want to go win a championship, which I don't think because, I don't think, There's a lot of people here that think that Cleveland Browns in their current construction are on the cusp of winning a championship. But also he used the Gia's own saying Cleveland to Canton against him in his statement. To me, that that kind of indicates that this is not about money. What are your thoughts? No, I completely agree.

And usually when we do see situations like this, I mean, I went through this a couple of years ago over on Lockdown Ravens with Lamar Jackson, where Lamar ended up putting a trade request on social media. Obviously, that was due to a contract. And we see a lot of these situations where it's like, okay, I'm going to use this as leverage so that I can get more money from a team. This clearly is not the motivation here for Miles Garrett. And with this coming out and everything of that sort, it's almost like with Cleveland, well, now if you don't trade him at this point, is he just going to leave when his contract is up and you get that third round cop pick? I mean, this could be a generational haul for the Cleveland Browns that really, Spencer, as you said, like this forces them to choose a direction, which I don't think is the worst thing in the world for an organization. that's been in limbo about like, okay, we made the Deshaun Watson move.

It was a huge failure on multiple fronts. Now we have to kind of pivot away, but how far do we pivot away? If they move off of Miles Garrett, it gives them a reason to say, right, let's just use this top five pick we have on a player that we know can be good for our future. But it doesn't have to be the situation where we have to rush that guy into a huge situation early. I think that it's not great to lose a franchise defining player like this and have it kind of go the way that it has because, as you mentioned, David, with the whole- That's the Mavericks. Yeah. That's all another situation where it seems to me.

That trade feels like it was like months ago for me. I know, right? I know. I can't even tell you. But I want to, Spencer, it's interesting with that whole Luca thing and now with this Cleveland thing, both sides, Dallas fans and Cleveland fans, you know, the whole trade thing with Luca comes out. out and all these Dallas fans are side of the woka, side in with the, side and with the Lakers, like, okay.

With Cleveland, it feels like Miles Garrett has the straight request, and Cleveland fans are like, yeah, okay, we don't really blame you. Like, it makes sense based off what and the right. Is that kind of the mood right now? Yeah, no, I mean, there was actually a news story done this morning on like a group of people who like gather around the stadium. I think it was yesterday after the request came out, or maybe it was this morning.

Either way. And they were like all wearing Miles Garrett jerseysies, and they were like burning Deshawn Watson jerseysies. because they were like, this is where we're at. Which is funny because, like, Cleveland has a history of burning jerseys of the player that, like, leaves. You know, LeBron James, I think at one point in time. But they were not burning the jersey of the player that's leaving potentially. They were burning the jersey of the guy who came here.

But, yeah, it's none of the fans that I've heard from or, like, any of the reactions I've seen, none of them are, like, blaming Miles Garrett for this. They all kind of understand why he, where he's coming from, and they understand the organization are the ones that kind of dropped the ball here and failed him. and have been wasting obviously his prime years. And I agree with you too, Kevin. Like, you know, I think Miles Garrett, if this was only about the contract dispute,

I think he could have left it at what he said leading in the week 16, where he was basically like, yeah, you know, I want to be a brown, but, you know, I thought about playing somewhere else if our goals don't align at the end of the off season, when we'd have those conversations. And so that was to me kind of like the, okay, you got to get him a new contract and kind of put this to bed.

This is like an escalation. This is like I'm going out with a public statement and saying I want to win. I want to go to a contender. And so that's why I think it's different like you alluded to. Yeah. And Ross Jackson and Lockdown Saints, the last question on this topic really is a two-parter. So one, given everything we talked about and Spencer's idea that you got to strip this thing down, you know, I know at least one fan base in the nation's capital wants to involve a player in a potential trade by the name John Allen.

Send John Allen to Cleveland along with a pick or two or three or whatever is going to take to bring Miles Garrett. But if you're tripping this thing down to the nuts and bolts, I don't think you want to bring on a 30 plus-year-old defense tackle. So what approach do you think the Cleveland Browns need to take when seeking out this, this trade or that they're not apparently going to seek out, but they're going to seek out? And do you have a top team in mind that you think if you're Miles Garrett and your goal is winning a championship that you want to land on?

Yeah, I mean, I think you're about to watch a pair of them this weekend, right? I mean, if there's the opportunity to land on one of the two teams that's been in the Super Bowl, at least twice in the last three years, and those are the ones that you're probably looking to prioritize. But there's going to be a lot of opportunities for him to potentially find places to land on a contender. But we've seen this over and over again in the NFL as well. I mean, we watched Gerald McCoy leave and say he wanted to go to a contender,

and he signed with the Carolina Panthers. Like we see this kind of stuff all the time where people will say, oh, yeah, we want to go to a contender. We want to do this. And then they sign with some middling team somewhere, or they get traded to some middling team somewhere. So the biggest thing is going to be if he ends up getting traded, Miles Garrett.

Are the Cleveland Browns incentivize in any way to do him any favors in terms of saying like, yeah, okay, you push yourself out, we're going to send you somewhere where you're going to be able to win? Do they really want to do that? Unless he has a no trade clause or anything, which Spencer would know. I don't know if he does. No, he does not. No. Yeah.

So the team kind of has all the leverage here. And this is one of the reasons why we see a lot of trade requests never actually come to fruition is because teams are going to take the best value. And I think that to your first question, what is it that the Cleveland Browns need to do? They need to not feel like they owe Miles Garrett anything. And they need to take, if they do decide to move them, take a deal that's going to give them exactly what Spencer said, the draft picks that they want, all those other pieces. They need to be able to land the draft capital, the future, whatever it is that allows them to be able to embrace where they are right now, but have the building blocks to rebuild in the future. So I would do Miles Garrett, no favors.

And I would do myself every favor that I can and take the best trade offer that's out there. And by that, Ross, we'll trade them to the Baltimore Ravens in the division. No. That's the one. I thought I said that. Zero. I forgot to say. Just want to make you clear.

That's all. That's my fault. But like I'm sending them to the, I'm sending them to like a team that feels like they have their quarterback already, but might not. But then is willing to say, you know what? We got the quarterback. And that quarterback's on a rookie contract. And so we have the opportunity to be able to send some stuff. So a Detroit spot or like a New England or something like that.

Like that's where I'm sitting. I'm not worried about sending them. I'm not worried about sending him to a contender. Yeah, absolutely. Right now I'm worried about everybody welcoming Tony Wiggins to the squash show. Speaking of not contending. Yeah, you know what? That's like one elephant telling the other one he stinks.

You know what I'm saying? So it's great time in news. Oh, my God. It was great timing because Whig and I actually just got done recording the Wednesday afternoon episode of Lockedon NFL where we talked a little bit about Miles Garrett, but we also talked about Cooper Cup. And we're going to talk more about Cooper Cup here on this week's episode of NFL Squad, part of the Locktown Podcast Network, your team every day. Today's NFL squad show is brought to you, my friends, over there at the GameTime app. And if you're looking for tickets to your next big event, game time is the place to be. Maybe it's last minute tickets to the big game.

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Our group of squadmates here today mentioned the trade in the NBA from including Dallas and Los Angeles, but there's another trade coming out of Los Angeles or involving Los Angeles where Widertseer Cooper Cup is reportedly going to be shipped off. fairly soon in that report coming from Cooper Cup himself. He took to social media and said the Rams told me they're looking to trade me immediately. I think that's kind of where I want to start here, actually. I want to start Cody Roark, Locked on Broncos. That word, like to me, that word kind of stood out. Is there, I don't know, am I making too much of that word being in that part of that process? And what did you think of the overall statement and some of the, you know,

I love LA and always wanted to be here. I was thinking in the end, but by the way, I'm coming for all of it. bringing all the smoke to you. I love that. I mean, Cooper Cup, when you look at him, this is a guy who's been underestimated his whole story, like, you know, really scrawny in high school, put in a lot of work, you know, goes and plays at Eastern Washington all of a sudden,

you know, writes a historic career for himself here in the National Football League. I mean, just a few years ago, he had 145 catches on a hundred and ninety-seven target. Do you want to talk about volume? Man, I'm sure he was every fancy football player's wet dream a few years ago there, right? For me, I look at it. Brought to you by him's.

I don't know what the hell of y'all got going on there and see, I might leave now. I might get out of here now, man. The next thing somebody's going to pull out a bottle of baby oil, I ain't got time for all that foolishness. That was such a crazy drop. I love it. Honestly, Cody, I love that you really, like, powered through, too. Like, you just said it. You just start going.

You thought we were just going to get away with that? No. Oh, I got something going to ruin here as it pertains to the Broncos and Cooper Cup. Don't, you know, don't worry. I ain't finished yet, but. The number one thing about. about Cooper Cup is that like this is a guy who, okay, yes, he's had, you know, the latest injury he's been really dealing with has been high ankle sprains.

I look at, you know, situational components there. Okay, you play in turf, you play indoors. That factors. And what is your training staff, strength and conditioning staff? Like Cooper Cup can go to another environment and easily thrive. And he's still got a lot to put in the tank. Look, is he going to be a number one receiver for a lot of teams at this point? You know, a team that is looking for another reliable option, that could definitely be the case here.

I think Denver is a team to consider here because of the fact, Gordon Sons on a, you know, the final year of his deal in 2025. But he also just adds another dynamic where Denver, if you watch that playoff game against Buffalo, they had a lot of drops by their receivers. Cooper Cup's a sure-handed guy. He's reliable. He's a chain mover. He could be exactly when it's act like Bo Nixney's or even Jaden Daniels in Washington

could use a guy like him opposite of Terry McLaurin. I mean, there's so many different fits and pieces for Cooper to go. I love the mentality. Cooper Cup has given so much to L.A. I think LA's approaching a rebuild. It kind of feels like that based on where things are heading if they're going to offset one of their top receivers. Yeah.

Aaron Freeman, Locked on Falcons, I want to ask you the part that the biggest hang up for me because there are some commanders fans who are kind of like Cody's rallying for the maybe the Broncos make this move. There are some commanders fans who are curious and interested in the commander is getting in that conversation and adding Cooper Cup to Terry McLaren and Luke McAfrey and seeing where this whole thing goes from there. my hang up there, man, is the $20 million salary cap that you're adding to your roster if you make this trade right now. And then it's like $22 plus million the next year.

And I know that there's ways to tack on more years and void years and all this other stuff and turn bonuses or base salary to bonuses and stretch it out. But at the end of the day, man, you're still looking at a $40 million price tag for Cooper Cup at this stage in this career. If you felt like as a GM, that's a steep price tag to pay, but this dude might help us get over the top. do you think that a GM should take that offer or take that chance if you're talking about a day three pick in exchange? Yeah, I think so. I think if you're a team in that position, you know, I think the big concerns you're talking about is the money that you're paying Cooper Cup, as well as the age and injury history. And, you know, you could probably go into next season thinking, oh, well, we might only get like 12 games at a Cooper Cup based off of the last couple of years.

But the 12 games you're going to get from Cooper Cup are going to be 12 very valuable games, especially if you're a team that's looking for sort of that complimentary number two wide receiver that can do all the kind of dirty work that Cooper Cup has been known to do. And so I think for probably several teams that won't be playing this weekend, but teams that are looking for that last little push over the hump and looking for another playmaker and feeling like, hey, we got a window that is not necessarily the next five years or something like that. and it's really just one or two years, I think it's worthwhile to make that trade and make that investment

and be willing to pay that premium in salary cap dollars when you can sort of undercut that a little bit with draft capital, where if I'm only giving up a fifth round pick for Cooper Cup, I don't mind paying $20 million in salary cap at this stage because, you know, as I all, the salary cap is a lie, baby. It's supposed to be 0.5. The Rams are supposed to eat some of his stuff they said. So there you go.

It's one of those things where like that makes it a little bit easier. That makes it a little bit easier for sure. Yeah. And none of his salary in 2026 is guaranteed either. Guaranteed. It's all non-guaranteed. So yeah, there's a lot of ways to work these numbers. Ross Jackson's very familiar with teams trying to work.

The cap's a lot, baby. Browns too. Browns too. We know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Spencer and I could give you all a master class if you want it. I want to see you wrong. I could talk to you about void years for.

Ed Capp. Look, we're all, all three of us right now, we're in a great. position we all relate to that. I want to Steve Ross and them work that out this year, though. I know he's talking about the cap ain't real. Okay. It's going to be easy. They'll restructure five young guys and then be under the salary cap ready to spend money.

Like we've been down this road already. Like $52 million over the salary cap in New Orleans, a small potatoes when they were $11 million a couple years ago and signed a $40 million a year quarterback in the same offseason. They'll figure it out. That's interesting. Mike DeBate logged on Patriots. have all this conversation about Cooper Cup and it's worth the risk and you can work the numbers

so you shouldn't be scared away by them. Who in the NFL in your mind is the team that needs to take that roll of the dice and bring him in? Well, if you want me to be a home or I'm going to say the New England Patriots, I think right now they are the team that has the cap space available. They don't have to do any kind of creative work to the cap to be able to work those numbers in. 120 million in excess is what they're going to be working with. So they can automatically bring him in. Now, I know there's concerns about his injuries, and I know that he's played 12 games the last couple of seasons and the nine the game before that. But if you also look at the Patriots conditioning staff, the way Cody and Ross may I mention that earlier, bringing him in, allowing him to grow with a young quarterback like Drake May. And also, I think it's worth mentioning that he is perfectly suited to work for Josh McDaniels in that offense.

If he's not going to be working with Sean McVeigh, Josh McDaniels is the ideal offensive coordinator be able to be able to be able to. maximize what Cooper Cup can do well. So the only question is, is Cooper going to want to come to New England? Is he going to want to spend a year or possibly even two helping this team build? Because they're still a long ways away. Patriots are not one player or two players away from automatically contending. Stranger things have always happened. I mean, anything can happen in a year in the NFL.

But Patriots need a lot of work. Is Cooper going to be able to use that time wisely and build with a young quarterback? If he's willing to do it, Patriots absolutely have to make this call and try to make this happen. If he's not, it takes them out of the running before they even get off the ground. Cooper Cup is Julian Edelman, Chris Hogan, and Danny Amadola in a taller body combined. So did he play calls across? Did he play calls across? Ooh, great question.

See, that's a great point, Spencer. This is a really weird position for me to be in. The Patriots leading the league and all this cap space. I'm used to the Belichekian method, you know, pulling, you know, cashiers from Walmart. You know, out of the line. And, you know, you know, the Rutgers lacrosse guys that get chances with Bill Belichick and he turns them into superstars, now the Patriots, if they're going to have to bring in Cooper Cup, they're going to have to pay.

And they're going to have to maybe overpay in that regard. They also have a good amount of draft capital. So that's something to consider. But do the Patriots overinvest in draft capital when they really need a lot of those draft picks to be able to rebuild? That's going to be the big task of the Patriots front office right now. guys like Elliot Wolf and Ryan Cowden coming in, helping out Mike Rable. They got a lot of decisions to make in that front office.

All right. So what I'm hearing is Cooper Cup to New England. And Miles Garrett's either Philadelphia or Kansas City. Oh, no. Either of those teams can make that move. They've got to handle their business on Sunday coming up this weekend and would take home the Lombardi from Super Bowl 59. We'll get into our Super Bowl predictions coming up next on this week's NFL squad, part of the Locks on Podcast Network. team every day. Today's NFL squad show is brought to our friends over there at prize

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The Chiefs are favored by one and a half points to beat the Philadelphia Eagles in the big game. The over under is 48.5 points. And we're going to hit a couple of prop bets and then we're going to hit some predictions. Tony Williams locked on Jags. I want to ask you this. Either team to get seven or more sacks in this game plus 75 100 odds on Fandall. What do you think? No, I don't think anybody's going to get those kind of sacks because both quarterbacks, you might have them and then they run away from you.

So there's no way I'm not, I'm going to bet that somebody's going to get sacks on guys that aren't statutes. I don't believe that's going to happen. I think it's going to be a limited possession game because I think Philadelphia's going to make sure and therefore. And you know what? Kansas City had, they realize their limitations on their. offensive line. They're not going to sit back there all day because they know they can't do it.

They've been getting that ball out of their hands real quick. And Mahalz is like Houdini. So yeah, I'm going to go against that seven and a half. All right. We've got a, it's funny actually because we're in the media workroom here in New Orleans. And this is what the actual, if you can, if you see this, this is what the actual media workroom looks like, Ross Jackson. Yes, this is the actual video of a good view of some guys sitting there waving his hands like an idiot. The game on the Television, though, is the Super Bowl that was dueled out between Nick Foles and Tom Brady. So this is a great prop bet for this moment. Either quarterback to record a catch in this game from another player, plus 1,400.

Since Cody and Spencer are cheating and answering, and now so is Kevin. I'm going to go to Aaron Freeman. Lockdown Falcons. What's your answer on that prop bet? Sure. Let's go for it. You know, let's get a Philly special. Devante Smith to Jalen Hertz.

Let's do it. You know, I like it. Yeah, plus 1,400's like, that's worth those odds to take it to take it to take the yes, to think they over on that one. It's worth it to take it, but isn't the Philly special now just the Tush push? Isn't that just what the Philly question is? That's their signature. You know, all that gimmicky stuff.

They just get behind the center and plow ahead with the corner. You know, does there require much skill, they say these days apparently to do that? The Philly not so special, I guess you could call it. Where's Peter Bukowski when you need him? Come on, Mark Murphy. Always talk about the Philly special, guys. I'm sorry. I'm not familiar with that term. I've completely blocked it.

Yeah, Mike's like, I think I'm breaking up. My internet. Yeah, unfortunate. Sorry, guys. Mike Debates me, we'll stick with you there, buddy. I want to ask you, Patrick Mahomes, Jalen Hertz, two started quarterbacks in this game, combining for six plus passing and receiving touchdowns,

since we're going to throw that in there, plus 320 odds, which I feel like it should be actually a little bit higher. But what do you think? What do you think about that possibility? it's tough to say because both of these teams are coming in here, having, in my opinion, been carried on their defense for a good amount of the year. But, you know, these games always feature an amazing amount of offense. I'm going to say, yeah, I'm going to say that these two quarterbacks come out and they show out.

I think Patrick Mahomes understands the gravity of this game. He's been there before. He's done that. I've seen this so many times before with Tom Brady, where people would say he's going to come in and he's not going to have a game, and he'll go out and he'll give you the game of his life. I think Patrick is ready to do that. And I think Jalen is up to the task too.

So I'm looking forward to seeing some offense on Sunday. Yeah, I'm going to say, yes, I do believe that they'll make that. All right. Cody York, Logs on Broncos, the most anticipated Super Bowl matchup of this weekend. Who do you have winning and who is your MVP prediction? Yeah, I'm going to go with Philadelphia. I have the Eagles winning this one. I think it's going to be a close game.

I think it's really going to come down to the final two minutes here. I got Sequin Barkley winning MVP because you go back to their first matchup they had a couple of years ago. Jalen Hertz played incredible in that game. And I think Jalen's going to be a big part of this game plan. But what they didn't have then that they have now is they have a Sequin Barclay who has just been on an incredible tear. And look, the guy just got engaged. So there's some extra mojo behind what he's got going on has a chance to get two rings here this week. And for him to go from the New York Giants to the Philadelphia Eagles and to see this type of success.

it's a great story for the NFL and it paints a bigger picture as to, hey, maybe if you need to change environments, it's not necessarily a bad thing. We're just talking about Miles Garrett Cooper Cup. It could work out for these guys if they end up elsewhere also. So I've got Sequin winning. I think he's going to have three rushing touchdowns in this game, and he's going to obviously take home the MVP as the Eagles win the Super Bowl.

Locked on Kellyn Moore host Ross Jackson, New Orleans native. Do the New Orleans Saints gets out? to hire a Super Bowl winning offensive coordinator this weekend or well, not this weekend, but Monday morning? No, I think it's going to be the Kansas City Chiefs. They're going to get this. Three Pete, I think it's going to happen. I'll be very excited to see it. I think that's the way that I'm going to go with it. But I will say this, New Orleans should win the Super Bowl at least once every five years because we just do it better than everybody else. That's all. Well, we'll go from that to a franchise and unfortunately doesn't know what that's like. Spencer German. Locked on Browns. I need your prediction in MVP Canada as well.

Yeah, so my heart tells me to go with the Eagles. That's why I want to see win. But I picked against the Chiefs in the ASC championship game, and I don't make the same mistake twice in a row. So for some reason, that team just always, I mean, honestly, like, Mike, you're very familiar with this. Like, everybody tried so hard to write off Brady and the Patriots. They wanted to be the first one of the take of like,

this is the year they fall off and they don't get it done. And I tried to do that with the Chiefs this year, and it backfired. my face. Patrick Mahomes is that version of Tom Brady where it's just like when he's out there when he's on the field two minutes to go, you know he's going to find a way to get it done. So I got to take the Chiefs even though it pains me to say it. And I guess for MVP, I mean, Padrema Holmes is the easy answer because I'm sure it generally goes to a quarterback. But I'll give Cleveland some love and say Kareem Hunt wins it.

Scores a couple touchdowns. There you go. There you go. Kevin Ostracker, Lockdown Ravens, I need your Super Bowl prediction, buddy, but I also need your league MVP award winner. Oh, geez. Oh, I'm glad you picked me for this one. I know why you did it too. I'm going to go Philadelphia. We'll make it a tie two to two.

So maybe, David, you can get a tiebreaker and pick the actual winner for the Lockstone Squad show here today. I'm going to go to Philly just because I think their roster is more balanced out. And for Kansas City, that challenge is stopping Sequan-Barkley, it's daunting for any team. and I just feel like with the way that Jalen Hertz has been talked about this season and what he has done again, this has been like the Seekwon Barkley show across the entire league for Philadelphia. But what Jalen Hertz is done, it's not as impressive as Saquan, but I think that this is like the Jalen Hertz. Hey, I'm still a really good quarterback, by the way, game.

And people are saying, wait a second, is this the Jalen Hurts we saw a couple of years ago showing up for this big moment? I remember after the Eagles lost of Super Bowl to Kansas City a couple of years ago, how devastated he was. And you could tell me in his press conference after he could barely speak, he was so upset about it. And I feel like him and this entire Eagles team, I'm going to use that for motivation. But again,

motivation can't be the only thing they can get you over the Kansas City Chiefs hunt because that team has been there. They've done that. This is just another walk in the park for the Chiefs, just another Sunday for Kansas City going in the Super Bowl. So I'm going to say Eagles win it, but my league MVP candidate, to me it is Lamar Jackson.

It is. And it's nothing against John. Allen. I feel kind of I feel kind of rusty talking about these takes because I've kind of put it in the rearview mirror. But to me, Josh had an incredible year. Lamar had an incredible year. I know the arguments for Josh Allen is that the bills were the two seed, the Ravens were the three seed. The bills had one more win than the Ravens did. And I think that that does carry some weight. I'm not saying it doesn't. But the statistical advantage Lamar had over Josh this season. And both guys had signature moments. Josh obviously had the run again. against Kansas City on fourth and one. Lamar finished out the season, I thought, very strong. Whereas Josh Allen, Mike, you know against the Patriots, that it was not a great game in a moment where he maybe could have wrapped up that award. So this is not going to be unanimous.

Both guys are going to get votes and they deservedly will get votes. But I also don't think the narrative should be we're going to give Josh Allen the award because he doesn't have it. I think that's been what I've seen a couple of times here. Give the award of the guy that deserves it. If it was Josh, I would say, hey, give that award to Josh on. I think Josh will be an MVP in the future. I just think this year I'm going to say a little more.

Hey David, can I give my, can I give my MVP pick real quick? I mean, you are the boss, so yes. Sure. Oh, yeah, I guess that's fair. Hey, David, I'm going to give my MVP perk real quick. I took the Kansas City Chiefs with the Super Bowl. So my Super Bowl MVP is going to be Ron Torbert. That's where I'm going to go with it.

I think it's all officiating. It's all officiating, baby. There's too much, too much officiating talk. Travis Kelsey, stop talking about those officials, you know. Yeah, that's what I was saying. There's too much officiating talk around. the Super Bowl week and Radio Row and all those other stuff so far this week leading up for that not to be an absolutely catastrophic game by the officials.

It's too suspicious. The wildest timeline is the Chiefs to have no penalties. The Eagles get no penalties the entire game until the last two minutes. And it's a game off the call. And that's like, there's nothing for the entire game. Are there any petty odds on that? Can we bet on that? Yeah, right. So I have a locked on.

I have a locked on Camer's Insider. who has a bold prediction for the Super Bowl that second to last play of the game, the Chiefs will be down four. The pass will fall incomplete, which, and then the clock will hit zeros, but there will be a flag on an Eagles defender for hitting Patrick Mahomes that will give the Chiefs

an untimed down. However, Mahomes gets injured, and Carson Wentz comes in and throws a game-winning touchdown. Oh, my God. I'll beat the Eagles. That would be wild. Retire Carson, Winston, Jersey immediately.

You about took Tony out with that one. If that happens, I might retire. So I will be the tiebreaker, actually. I wasn't going to. I will be the tiebreaker since you brought it up. So Ross Jackson knows why. I have a very specific reason I don't want the Kansas Chiefs and win a Super Bowl this weekend.

However, I also know that he will be in attendance and the opportunity to witness the first NFL team in history to winning back-to-back-to-back Super Bowls is a very valuable moment. So out of my loyalty, and no, I'm not sucking up even though you're going to say I am, to Ross Jackson, I hope that he gets to witness it. So I'm going to pick the Kansas City Chiefs.

Yeah, you sucked up. That's what you did. You sucked up. I'm going to pick, I'm going to pick the Chiefs to win the game that gets to bracket a Kendrick Lamar concert here in New Orleans. Good, on Sunday night. Good job. Good job. Good job sucking up, David.

Yes, sir. Thank you. Your bonus check is in the mail. I had to turn around and talk to somebody real quick. Sorry. Thank you for bringing me in the New Orleans, sir. Can I say something? Can I say something?

Of course. Tony, you say anything. Because, Cody, you really could say that. That comment didn't almost take me out. The fact that my meds are kicking in, that almost took me out. We all might lose our job if I stay on here too long. Spencer, I can tell you something.

You knew, man. Don't you let them intimidate you. If you have any problems, you call me. But if you have any technical problems, you better not call me. You might be going to get your pet dog to fix that because I can't help you. All right. I've been taking a lot of notes this first month, so I'm making that note. If I need defending, if I'm in a dark alley, I got Tony on my side.

If it's anything technical, I don't need Tony. That's right. So here we go. I think what we're going to have is a passing of the torch. And that passing of the torch is going to come from Chris Jones to Jalen Carter. Jalen Carter is going to get two stacks and dominate this game, especially if they have to move Joe Tony outside. They're going to have a problem.

I do believe that it's going to be a limited possession game. I think that kid is going to absolutely dominant. dominate in front of a guy who I think is in the gold category for defensive tackles. I'm going to the Philadelphia Eagles to win this game. Now, Vic Fangio, he started out three and O against Andy Reed as a coordinator. He's now three and nine. He's lost like nine in a row or eight in a row. So I think all streets come to an end, and I think he finally has all of these players.

And I just don't see anybody on the Eagles that I can point to and say, I don't think they're going to have a good game. I think the corners are going to have a good game. I think C.J. Gardner Johnson is going to have a good game. I think the tackles are going to have a good game. I think their offensive line is really, really good. Both of their receivers are tight-in, the running back. I just don't see where one of those guys is going to come into this game and not deliver.

I think it's going to be close, but I think you're going to pull it off. Great. So now we're tied and out of time. Yeah, now we're tied again. Real quick, I need you to make a prediction. I'm going chalk. Chiefs, Packard Mahomes, MVP. All right.

Chiefs win. Thank you, everybody for joining. Why does so, wait, might just ask Mike, too, because Mike, Mike, No, you don't even like to tie. You can only make a prediction if it's Chiefs. All right, that's what I thought. Thank you for joining the NFL's quote episode. This week, of course, we are here.

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