Locked On Bengals - Daily Podcast On The Cincinnati Bengals - Setting HIGH EXPECTATIONS for Bengals' Free Agency

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

The Cincinnati Bengals have A LOT of work to do in free agency, and we're setting high expectations this year more than ever. Jake Liscow and James Rapien discuss what would constitute a successful fr...ee agency for the Bengals. We get into a plethora of players - especially on the defensive side of the ball - and outline different scenarios on defense that could drastically improve that side of the ball ahead of the 2026 NFL Draft. Everydayer Club If you never miss an episode, it’s time to make it official. Join the Locked On Everydayer Club and get ad-free audio, access to our members-only Discord, and more — all built for our most loyal fans. Click here to learn more and join your team’s community: https://lockedonpodcasts.com/everydayerclub Join the Locked On Bengals Insider Community! https://joinsubtext.com/lockedonbengals Find and follow Locked On Bengals on your favorite podcast platforms: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/locked-on-bengals-daily-podcast-on-the-cincinnati-bengals/id1159723162 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7AObc0lh0WmQl5fJVgtajs Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vbG9ja2Vkb25iZW5nYWxz?sa=X&ved=0CAYQrrcFahcKEwio_sXtj8nuAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAg Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/locked-on-bengals Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! TurboTax This year you’re getting a major upgrade — Intuit TurboTax now has in-person locations nationwide. Visit http://TurboTax.com/local to book your appointment today. Indeed Listeners of this show get a $75 Sponsored Job Credit to help give your job the premium placement it deserves at http://Indeed.com/podcast. Gametime Today's episode is brought to you by Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONfor $20 off your first purchase. Terms and conditions apply. FanDuel FanDuel is giving you a way to turn that energy into even bigger potential wins with a College Basketball Parlay Profit Boost.Visit https://FANDUEL.COMto get started — Play Your Game. Betterhelp This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp.  Sign up and get 10% off at http://BetterHelp.com/LOCKEDON.    FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Bengals have a lot of work to do in free agency, and we are setting expectations high on this podcast for the Bengals to be active in free agency. You are locked on Bengals, your daily Cincinnati Bengals podcast. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. What up, Bengals fans, and welcome to another episode of the Lockdown Bengals podcast. Part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day and the number one sports podcast network in the land. He's James Rep.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Now, Jake Liskow, and we are your host of the lockdown Bengals podcast. We've been doing this thing going all the way back to 2016 between the two of us, bringing you daily coverage of your Cincinnati Bengals. And that is about to ramp up in a big way with free agency right around the corner. This will serve as one of your two free agency preview kind of episodes. We'll have another one for you before free agency opens. And that will be the legal negotiating window, affectionately known as a legal tampering window on Monday next week,
Starting point is 00:01:08 or maybe today, depending on when you're listening to this episode. And today we're going to dive into our lofty expectations for the Cincinnati Bengals in terms of activity level in this year's free agency period. That's the sense that we are going to have from this team going into free agency. Today's episode brought to you by game time. You want to get tickets to an event? You want to get tickets to a future Bengals game? check out the GameTime app, create an account, and use code locked on.
Starting point is 00:01:36 You'll save $20 on your first purchase of tickets. And James, we released to the public the full free agency sheet. So make sure you're looking out on social media for the link to that where you and me and Joe Goodberry and Mike Santagena have gone through, I feel like, hundreds of free agents and put some tierings out there. We've got projected contract information in there, a whole lot of great data in there for you to check out. And there might be something that we refer to in the future here on this podcast,
Starting point is 00:02:07 might see it on this podcast in the future. So keep an eye up for that on social media. But today wanted to dive into what we think the Bengals are going to do and set expectations in terms of what a successful free agency would look like for the Cincinnati Bengals, defining success, getting on the record before this thing open. So we have something that we can refer back to and say, yeah, they check those boxes. Is there no, they came up short. And last year was a year where we felt like they came up short.
Starting point is 00:02:38 We were waiting for the additional moves that never arrived. And I think that there were some coaches on the Bengals staff that felt the same way, James. But we've talked a lot about three levels of the defense. I think that's where it starts. I don't think that's where it ends. But I think that's where it starts. What are your thoughts? Yeah, I think when you envision this free agent period for the Bengals,
Starting point is 00:03:00 there's weaknesses all over, right? And you need to plug those holes. And that's where my, that's where the standard is. Like if you're entering the draft and there's this glaring hole on defense, well, I'm probably going to be frustrated with what they did in free agency.
Starting point is 00:03:21 And I'm going to outline that a little bit more because that doesn't mean that Ruben Bain wouldn't be able to help them at 10 or Caleb Downs wouldn't be able to help them at 10. But they need to put themselves in a position where if they don't get that guy, if they don't get the the day two guy that lines up on their board that they would love. And maybe it's Jacob Rodriguez, right?
Starting point is 00:03:41 Like maybe that's their guy at linebacker at 41. And instead he goes 40, right? And I'm going high on draft projection, but you just never know. Well, if that happens, you should be like, okay, well, we have so-and-so at linebacker plus Demetrius Knight plus Barrett Carter. Oh, man, I can't believe Ruben Bain is a member of the Kansas City Chiefs. Good thing we added this edge after Trey Hendrickson left. And this edge, maybe it's Joseph Osai, but feels like Osai's going to get paid elsewhere.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I don't know. Maybe I'm, my vibes are off on that. But you get my point here. Add his starting safety. And then if you find another one in the draft early, Caleb Downs, well, guess what, he's versatile. You'll find a way to get those three guys on the field. Al Golden can have his guy Jordan battle
Starting point is 00:04:30 riffing all he wants and he can still play. And so like defining what makes the Bengals successful and free agency, I think the Dalton Reisner re-signing was huge because now, and I speak for trench men everywhere, it's all on plugging these holes. It doesn't mean that you're going to have
Starting point is 00:04:53 the fastest boat on the lake, but make sure that that defensive boat isn't shipping. or isn't sinking and is floating nicely because it's it's been sinking like the titanic for three years and gino stone and logan wilson and all these guys that you've been banking on have uh have not helped you need to find some guys that are going to help prop it up and get you back above water yeah and it's multiple guys right it's the three levels of the defense and like i said that's where it starts us where it ends it's not necessarily even just one guy on all three levels but that's kind of the baseline, right, is one guy is the minimum at all three levels. And I would go so far as to say
Starting point is 00:05:34 probably two guys on the defensive line. Minimum. Probably the minimum there. I think if they only add a defensive tackle or only add at an end, they're probably in a pretty bad place heading into the draft, really hoping that they can get an impact player at one of those positions at pick number 10, if that's the way free agency goes. And now you're like, man, Sure hope we can get Ruben Bain to go back to your example or like, boy, do we like Peter Woods or Caleb Banks or any of the potential first round? I think those are the only two potential first round defensive tackles because it's not a seat as a great defensive tackle class. But you don't want to be desperate at any spot. And that's why I say adding to the defense is only where it starts because I was corrected when I called it a sneaky need at tight end and was told that it is not sneaky.
Starting point is 00:06:26 to anyone paying attention. We haven't talked about it a ton is part of why I call it sneaky. The other reason I call it sneaky is because I don't know how dire the Bengals see the position where Drew Sample's still under contract. They brought back Tanner Hudson.
Starting point is 00:06:42 They still have Mike Keseki on the roster. They know more than we do about Eric Hall. So speculating there, have no idea what direction that would go. But it doesn't end with the defense for me. Like I would like to see them try to shore up some things in terms of depth on the offensive side of the ball too. There are a whole lot of tight ends out there this year. I don't know how much you've looked at that, James.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I feel like there's a ton of tight ends out there if they wanted to add a guy that could push that room as the versatile tight end piece. So, you know, in case you can't get a guy in the draft, in case Eric Hall can't come back, you have a piece there. I'd be kicking the tires on wide receiver depth as well and potentially wide receiver competition at the back of that depth chart. So there's some other things, but for sure it starts on defense and it's starting level players on defense. You're looking for starting safety, starting linebacker, starting defensive end and or rotational defense event, high end rotational defensive end, high end rotational defensive
Starting point is 00:07:48 tackle slash starting defensive tackle. Not necessarily that Trey Hedrickson's all. of the world. But if they wanted to go out there and take a swing on a player like that this year, the ascending player, to me that's Jalen Phillips. I've talked about that. If they can get there with the medicals there. But if you wanted to take a swing on the upside guy, finding one upside guy at these positions, which probably takes you to edge, maybe linebacker, I think that's part of it too. It's not just starting level players. I would like to see them try to find a piece that will be a strong starting player on this defense,
Starting point is 00:08:22 a difference maker on this defense, a force multiplier on this defense as well. And so there's not many. That's what's tough. There's not many. And if you look at edge, there's a few guys, right? Jalen Phillips is in the same tier.
Starting point is 00:08:36 As I, you mentioned the free agent sheet. Among the group, he's above Adafioa. I have him in the same tier at one and a half. And I think that both have their flaws. And yet both are really intriguing and mighty, mighty interesting to roll the dice on. And it is very Trey Hendrickson 2021-esque, where if they sign one of those guys, it will be exciting. There will also be yeah, buts.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And there will be questions about it. And so do they go that route? There's going to be questions with a lot of guys that they have to add. Do they make that big splurge, that difference maker type of contract offer? at linebacker versus edge, I think that's really interesting. Do they pivot and go with a guy like John Franklin Myers, who just seems destined to go to Tennessee with everyone in Nashville calling for him? Obviously, Robert Sallow is his coach in New York.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I don't know. But there aren't many when you think like, all right, this is going to be this game-changing player. There aren't many. I do think the Bengals need to get one. Will they? Well, that would go a long way toward making it a successful free agency. We'll continue the conversation.
Starting point is 00:09:48 And yeah, I have more talk about this Bengals defense that needs more playmakers coming up next. Today's show is brought to you by Game Time. Game Time is the app you need because look, we live in a world where we can stream anything, order food in minutes, carry supercomputers in our pockets, and somehow buying tickets to a live game is still complicated. It's still challenging. You have hidden fees, jumping prices, endless steps. Well, there's a better way, ladies and gentlemen. And it's with Game Time.
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Starting point is 00:11:06 to you. First is the Everydayer Club, which you can join free if you join before March 15th with promo code free agency. You can check out the Everydayer Club at LockdownBengles. Supercast.com where you can get an ad-free episode. you can hop into the Discord with the other everydayers and talk about what's going on with the Bengals in free agency. James and I are in that Discord a little bit every day as well.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And the other thing is this is the best time of year for it, I think, is the Lockdown Bengals Insider Group. That's it, join subtext.com slash lockdown Bengals, where James and I will share with you any information that we can around this free agency period. The examples we've alluded to this week were the news that James and I both kind of knew was coming but didn't know exactly when, which was Dalton Reisner and that negotiation trending in the right direction coming out of the combine. Our insiders found out about that over the weekend
Starting point is 00:11:59 right before Dalton Reisner ended up signing his extension or his re-signed one-year deal with the Bengals. And when we have information like that, we do love to share it. You can check that out, like I said, join subtext.com slash lockdown Bengals. A whole bunch of people pop in on board for that during free agency at this time of year, James. Jake, how many, because we both did the same sheet, how many of those force multipliers do you think are there? Like guys that realistically can take that, that next step, because no one's more accomplished than Trey.
Starting point is 00:12:33 And from an availability standpoint, obviously he's not coming back. I get it. You would take the swing on Jalen Phillips. But how many of those guys are there, period, across all positions defensively, at least, here in free agency? Yeah, it's not a whole lot, right? You look at the guys that have a consensus rank better than a tier two kind of free agent this year, and it is a short list.
Starting point is 00:12:55 And that's Devin Lloyd, who were consensus pretty high on Devin Lloyd coming off a good year, 28 years old, though, coming off a great year, though, with the Jaguars. There's Jalen Phillips, who I mentioned, who I personally put as a two, but that was simply to hedge against the injury risk. I see that, you know, you and Joe have him at a one. and a half and i had a matter to and and i bumped i bumped it to a one o a one point five because i look at him at him and oa very similar they have different flaws or different concerns yeah but like the upside is there so i was like why would he be in a tier lower than oa so i that's why it was kind of what and and for me i have o a even even lower i do think that jalen phillips if he's healthy
Starting point is 00:13:40 is clearly a better player than adafay oa but but just a health concern there right but if oh if phillips can be healthy for a few years for you. That's the guy that will be on the Trey Hendrickson-like trajectory when the Bengals signed Trey Hendricks. He's, I think, a little bit older than when the Bengals signed Trey, but the past rush win rate, the ability to be a three-down player. That's Jalen Phillips this year. Jonathan Franklin Myers, I think, gets into the conversation as well. I think Brian Cook gets into the conversation as well as the best available safety out there. But I think once you get beyond that, you're looking for guys that fit and guys that if you get enough of them, you can piece together a defense that has enough pieces. But in terms of like single
Starting point is 00:14:26 guys that could have that kind of impact, I think that's it. I think you're talking about based on what we think going into this free agency. And I want to refer to something with the Bengal side trade Hendrickson in a minute here, Devin Lloyd, Jalen Phillips, John Franklin Myers, and then I think you can make an argument for Brian Cook. And I know you would maybe make an argument for Adafo. way you see him in a brighter light than I do. And I think that's it when you talk about guys that are really going to come in and kind of chalk, the chalk outcome would be that guy could really elevate you at that position.
Starting point is 00:14:57 For sure. And I think the reason I think always in that mix for sure, I think Leo Chanel you can make the argument for. Yeah. And part of that is fit, right? Is all, well, he's going to get here and it's going to be a great fit. and it's going to help unleash and unlock a little bit more for Demetrius Knight. And so that's part of it.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Yeah, the fit and like part of the multiplayer approach is how I see Chanel and not like necessarily the on his own kind of guy. So like you have to draw a line somewhere. But I do think that's a worthy mention by you. Yeah. And so like, but think about that. Think about how many guys we just mentioned. Like you're not even in on OA at that level.
Starting point is 00:15:41 And so it's if you don't. view it that way, then it's like Devin Lloyd. Like I would rather sign Adafioa than Devin Lloyd. And yet there are going to be a lot of people that are weighing on Devin Lloyd and we look at it. And all of us had him as a 1.5. And even though he might be a little bit better of a player, it's a tough balance. I think it's tough to invest that at linebacker in a great linebacker draft too.
Starting point is 00:16:11 It is. and a good linebacker free agency group where there are a lot of options that could get you for either a one-year deal for a guy like to Mario Davis or one of the veterans out there or Leo Chanel is going to be likely a factor cheaper than Devin Lloyd, like considerably cheaper than Devin Lloyd and might be just what you need, you know? Let's talk about a guy just because we're talking about linebacker. By the way, this is something Bengals. your free agent additions need to match the draft. And what I mean by that is last year, the draft sucked at linebacker. We all knew it.
Starting point is 00:16:49 You should have signed a linebacker. Like clearly Al Golden wanted a linebacker. It should match. So like if you really want something and the draft doesn't have it or it's lean at it, get it now, get it next week, get it the week after, whatever it is,
Starting point is 00:17:06 whatever it is. That being said, we were talking about linebacker and Quay Walker. is someone that's going to be exciting for a lot of people. Yeah, I'm not. Other people are going to be mad on, and I know we feel the same way about this. We are in lockstep here. I think he would feel like a splash signing, and I would have, it would be not like
Starting point is 00:17:29 Trey. Like I didn't question the Trey nearly as much as I would a Quay Walker, $14 million per year. And that might be low. Who knows what he gets? But coming to Cincinnati for three for 42, for example. Yeah, that might be a guy that the NFL is much higher on than we are. We have a tier three. And what did I put on, Quay Walker out of curiosity?
Starting point is 00:17:55 Three. I am surprised at myself. I might go adjust that one after we talked about that. I did just go see one that maybe three is okay. I think three is fine. Three is a starter, like in a lot of ways. Like an okay starter? I think I was grading on a harsher curve this year.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Yeah, I don't know. I'm not there on that one. I would be more interested in the one-year deal on the DeMario Davis or like Levanti David or even Bobby Wagner, like the veteran kind of guy who can be a bridge player. That honestly makes a lot of sense to me this year. If you're not going to get a guy that you think is going to be a multi-year good starter for you, maybe that's Devin Bush, right? and Devin Bush is coming off a career revival year behind a great defensive line.
Starting point is 00:18:42 So you got to think about that in Cleveland. Or maybe it's Devin Lloyd, right? One of the two Devin's at linebacker. Unless one of those guys, you're making a big investment there with a veteran, one of these one year, end of career still knows where they need to be. Maybe lost a step, but are still good players in one of these veterans at linebacker. Given the texture of the draft class, man, like you talked about, makes a lot of sense. I have a question.
Starting point is 00:19:08 And it's going to be a juicy one. All right. And will it, would it fill the void at defensive line? Would you be happy with this haul? It's a trio. That's the tease. We will get to that coming up next. Today's show is brought to by TurboTax.
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Starting point is 00:20:19 All right, Jake, would this, would you be happy? Would you be sad if a week from now the Bengals announced a one-year deal with Khalil Mack, a one-year deal with Judevian Clowny, and a one-year deal with D-A-Lowny, and a one-year deal with D. J. Reeder. How would you feel if that trio was just inserted into the Bengals defensive line room, they lose Osai, they bring in two guys in Mack and Clowny, still productive. Obviously, they would rotate with Shamar and Miles, and then they bring back an old friend and DJ Reader, and you have Slayton, Reader, Hill, Chris Jenkins, and that's kind of your,
Starting point is 00:21:09 your core here going into the draft in that defensive line room. Well, they're definitely re- it's old. They're definitely restructuring Joe Burroughs contract in that situation to make cap space because that's not all I'm doing. I'm not only signing one-year deals. And if you're signing one-year deals for veterans who are good players, those are going to eat up your cap space in a hurry.
Starting point is 00:21:30 So that's the first thing that comes to mind for me. Maybe it's a two-for-reader or two for Mac or, you know, whatever. But like, you're investing in those three guys. I agree. I don't want a bunch of one-year deals. I'm getting there. So if it's the, that's why it's hard to do too many of these kinds of deals,
Starting point is 00:21:44 like DeMario Davis and Jadavian Clowny and another one, like that would be a lot of one year deals for, for high level aging veterans who are, you know, probably nearing the end of their careers, but still have some good football left in them. But the players, they're good.
Starting point is 00:22:02 They're still good players. Like DJ Veters still solid player. Khalil Mack's still good. Jadavion Clowny coming off one of his more productive years in recent history. So all those guys still good players, how much would it cost? What's the cap situation? Like that's certainly another conversation.
Starting point is 00:22:21 But the players, not that I think the Bengals would ever do this, but the players, despite their age, still good players. And there's a reason we've talked about Callais Campbell for the last five, four years, he's 40 now. still a solid player still will be good for this team and you know there's a caveat with him that maybe he just doesn't want to play in the north like literally north of i don't know tennessee somewhere somewhere that has seasons i'm asana get your get your butt here yeah uh there's a reason that we're talking about those guys we'll see if this is the year the bengals
Starting point is 00:23:01 do it right but i do kind of we talked about this before we started recording so funny this is going to be the second time i mentioned it i i i kind of reminds me of the Terrell Owens year a little bit. And there isn't a whole lot of history for the Bengals and going after these kinds of players. And T.O. is his own, his own beast. But there's something, something that feels desperate to me about getting a bunch of guys like this.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Like going for three, three, one year, player and like maybe it works out maybe that's a gambit that works but it does feel a little desperate to be like man yeah these these guys we just need one year we just wanted to do it for one year feels very anti-bengals but uh yeah that's my my here's why you could tell me on the idea here's why you could tell me on the idea and you could tell me on a lot of things if it means getting a competent defense on the field so oh yeah preface it with that right none of those guys would block like everything everything you just did you raised the floor but you could still get rubin bain you could still get peter woods you could still get Caleb banks that you could still get an
Starting point is 00:24:15 edge in round two t j parker we mocked him earlier this week like those things all still on the table they could all still play they could all still be part of a rotation but you have like a a standard is just a bit higher with those guys like the floor is higher they they've been there done that type so that that's why i mentioned that I know it's not ideal like I would much rather have multi-year deal the ascending player all of those things but it's just a path that if you added reuben bain
Starting point is 00:24:48 and you had shamar and you have miles on a fifth year option which is probably going to happen like it does fit like jadavian county does fit for this year as those guys are are developing now do you need to go get calil mac too that's where the bengals would be like come on we're not doing that that's what that's why i think you mentioned it is because like yeah it's probably not all three but maybe it's one or maybe it's two and maybe it's a linebacker maybe it's one of those three linebackers i mentioned earlier bobby wagner de mario david
Starting point is 00:25:17 savante david all players i think would help at lineback right maybe it's one of those linebackers and maybe it's one of these guys on the defensive line maybe it's one of calio mac or judevian clownie or even cam jor i don't think joie bosa but you know who knows maybe i'm wrong there and maybe in addition to that they're they're kicking around a boy a mafay or an arnold levicati or a quitty pay or one of these guys that maybe they see his upgrade yeah maybe on the on the interior interior it's i mean on hard grade by the way i'll just throw that out there i mean yeah the only guy that's really exciting as a free agent to us as a collective on the interior outside of john franklin meyers who you almost count as not being realistic logan hall yeah oh that's it
Starting point is 00:26:01 i mean there's really nothing when you said a hall i thought you were going to go come and and squeeze Logan Hall into the do a No, no, I just, Hargrave is interesting as like a, that older guy, like that one year type guy, but no, Logan Hall from a multi-year, man, because maybe he's just a serviceable rotation guy.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Like, maybe that's it. But maybe there's something else there. If I'm them, here, let's play, would you rather? Would you rather Jalen Phillips and Logan Hall or John Franklin Myers and, um, Who's the upside, upside edge that fits that a little bit?
Starting point is 00:26:42 Mboyet Maffey. Probably the second one. Maffey and JFM. Interesting. Okay. All right, let's go down to Epicady. Probably still the second one. Okay, let's see how far we can go here.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Chase on. This is where it's going to change. Yeah, then I'm out. Because there we case. Jason isn't in that group for me. Chase on. Yeah, we've taught, okay. because yeah I think
Starting point is 00:27:06 Anagbari would be similar like once you get out of the Mafé, Ebikati, like those guys are a tier above the fall off for me. Yeah. Yeah. And I think, yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:18 it's just a fun fun would you rather is in different scenarios. Caleb Von Chase. I was interested in him last year, but the Bengals were not interested in free agency last year. They took that.
Starting point is 00:27:30 They took last year off. They should be well rested. Yeah. Ready to go. God. So we're in agreement that we're talking multiple starters. Yeah. A couple defensive linemen would be great.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I get it. It's tough on the defensive interior this year. It might be really hard to find a guy there, especially if they aren't interested in the one-year type of deals for a guy like a DJ reader or even a David O'Me Mettah, a Callais Campbell, go all the way down the list to even Shelby Harris or like you mentioned, Javon Hargrave and those guys potentially having specific roles. People have asked about Christian Wilkins, no idea what's going on with his health.
Starting point is 00:28:04 certainly an edge rusher this is where i think you can see them try to target one of these 27 year olds yeah there's several of them there's jalen phillips adobeye mafei and arnold abacati all those guys you could throw kalev on chase on into the mix as well you could throw quidipa and kingsley and igbari into the mix as well and you could even throw uh joseph o's i returning into that group although you talked about the expectation that he might find other pastures earlier in the show certainly a safety right we've talked at length in the past about how many safeties are out there. We'll talk more
Starting point is 00:28:38 about who some of those targets might be before free agency opens on Sunday and a linebacker and what direction they go at linebacker is going to be interesting. Do they go that veteran stopgap transition player kind of route there knowing what might be
Starting point is 00:28:54 available to them in the draft and hoping for more development from their two draft picks from 2025. I need a real safety too. Not this fake safety. He intercepted Joe Burrow once a on a time. How much do we think they're going to spend this year for safety? Are they going to be like, oh, you know what? Maybe we should have done to Jesse Bates saying we're going to spend Jesse Bates money on a safety. I would, that's what I would. I mean, I would spend more on a safety
Starting point is 00:29:17 than a linebacker. I don't know if that's a take, but that like going in, I would be planning that. Now, if it doesn't work because Brian Cook gets 20 million per year, well, then fine, then we'll pivot. And that's it. And you drop down and you retool and you do that. But yeah, I mean, I would, I would be ready to because you've tried to piece it together. Nick Scott, three years, 12 million, didn't work after a year. Gino Stone, man, he got a reasonable deal, like two years. He had 14 million or whatever it was. Well, that's why it was reasonable because no one wanted him.
Starting point is 00:29:50 And it didn't work. And as I'm talking, if you're watching on YouTube, you saw it. But as I'm talking, Gino Stone just missed another tackle. He tried to tackle Jake in Canada with Jake is in the end zone if you're listening. Come on. Stray's on the way out. So what do you think, Jay? Just another tackle.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Next episode for the people from us. What will get into what will we do? And then free agency opens the next day. And then we're peppering you with hopefully a lot of activity as the Bengals are making us do so, keeping us active next week. That's coming your way next on the Lockdown Bengals podcast. Until then, thanks for listening to this episode. Who did?
Starting point is 00:30:30 And have a good one. Should Gino Stone be in Tier 5?

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