Locked On Broncos - Daily Podcast On The Denver Broncos - BRONCOS SQUAD SHOW: Bo Nix Showing Growth as Broncos Ramp Up for Training Camp
Episode Date: June 19, 2026As the Denver Broncos get closer to training camp, all eyes are on Bo Nix and his development heading into Year 3. Nix looked poised at the podium during minicamp and all indications are that he’s r...eady to go for Broncos Training Camp in July. Join Aniello Piro, Cody Roark, Sayre Bedinger and Nick Ferguson on today’s Locked On Broncos Squad Show as they break down the progress Nix has made this offseason, how he's growing with Davis Webb, and how he’s projecting for the upcoming season. Plus, the fells take a look at what Evan Engram's role will be in 2026. Can Bo Nix take the next step in 2026 and help lead Denver back into Super Bowl contention? Let us know your thoughts in the comments! Everydayer Club If you never miss an episode, it’s time to make it official. Join the Locked On Everydayer Club and get ad-free audio, access to our members-only Discord, and more — all built for our most loyal fans. Click here to learn more and join your team’s community: https://lockedonpodcasts.com/everydayerclub Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! Rugiet Get 15% off your treatment → https://rugiet.com/lockedonnhlRugiet. Performance medicine for men. OdooGreat organizations win because operations matter. And that’s why you should get Odoo. Try for free today at https://Odoo.com/lockedon. FanDuelToday's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. From the opening whistle to the final kick, Let There Be Goals on FanDuel. Visit https://FANDUEL.COM to get started now. SquareIf you’re starting a business, or running one that deserves better tools, Square helps you sell, manage, and grow without slowing down. Right now, you can get up to $200 off Square hardware at https://square.com/go/LockedOnNFL. IndeedListeners of this show get a $75 Sponsored Job Credit to help give your job the premium placement it deserves at http://Indeed.com/podcast. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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I'm a little Piro, and while it was nice to see Bo Nix back in the mix last week,
I'm excited about the mojo he's going to bring to the Broncos on the football field for training camp.
Cody Rorke, a mile high in sports.
Evan Ingram should be used a lot more this upcoming season if Davis Webb has anything to say about it.
Sarah Betteinger, predominantly orange.
What if I told you, Bo Nix has been even better in the playoffs than your favorite quarterback's favorite quarterback.
I'm Nick Ferguson.
What if I told you that the offense need to freaking pick it up?
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But what's up, fellas, happy Friday.
How we doing?
The stages now of the off-season that I think we all really dread
because we had a little bit of taste of football on the field
and now we've got to go five to six weeks without it.
It's the worst time of it.
But if you're going to try to fit in a vacation, folks,
now is the time to do it.
it's like when you're hungry and your wife's like i've got gum in my purse and you're like i don't want
a worm like i'm hungry i want to eat you know what i'm saying like yeah i'm hungry it's time to
eat that's where i'm at with like football you're talking about where you're entering the true
doldrums of the off season right now just six weeks of absolute nothingness that's where i'm like
all i guess if all i can have is gum then you know what i'll have it but
Yeah, I'm with you, Cody.
I'm ready for football to be back one way or the other.
We get football.
I've never heard that before.
Now, as a kid growing up, and I have a kid wants to go to McDonald's,
and we was past McDonald's and say, hey, mom, we're hungry.
My mom would say, eat some air, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, same deal, same deal.
The idea of actually eating air when we think about everything that's flying around is just kind of,
I prefer gum at that point.
But no, my wife's the same way.
Like, you know, she gets, she gets angry.
I get angry.
She goes, well, here, I got a piece of gum in my purse.
I'm like, the chewing on the gum, I guess, is supposed to suppress.
You're like, that thought about I'm hungry, I'm hungry.
But then again, when it's the gum that doesn't last long in terms of flavor, it's like, what's the point?
So I was like, it's going to get a sweet treat.
By chewing gum doesn't activate your salivary glands, right?
I believe it only makes you hungry it, right?
I mean, I think there's something in.
mint. I think there's something specifically in mint that's supposed to suppress hunger temporarily.
Shoot. I ain't about that. Give me the food. Give me the real stuff. Yeah, see, a chick-fil-a sandwich after
chewing a piece of gum doesn't taste as great. So, you know, yeah. You know, my buddy in college,
you know, back in the day when, you know, we were just college kids and all that kind of stuff,
he coined the best, like two years ago. A little bit longer on that. A little bit longer on that. You just got to
eat sleep for dinner, bro. Just go to sleep.
not safe.
Just knock out, you know, you wake up and then it's time for the meal, right?
You know, so.
I don't know about you, man.
The worst thing is going to bed on a hungry stomach because that stuff could wake you up
in the dead middle of the night.
And you're just like, mm, no bueno.
Yeah.
That's how we feel about Broncos football.
We got the, you know, we're going through a hunger pains right now.
Yeah, no doubt.
I mean, good news is the Broncos are not no Bueno.
They're way bueno with how the mini camp period and the OTA's session went.
And obviously good news across the board, the off the off-the-field stuff.
stuff with Sean Payton and George Peyton getting their contract extensions, the return of Boe Nick,
some conversation around Jonah Coleman. We'll talk about Evan Ingram as well as it looks like,
you know, pretty optimistic as you could be for Evan Ingram, given the season that he had last
year as well. So a lot to unpack. I mean, we'll dive into Bo for a segment. I think we'll do a segment
on Evan. But Cody, like just you were there, Nick, you were there as well. Like, does it feel any
different? Because I forget exactly how Bo phrased it in one of his answers on Tuesday. But it was
something along the lines of like we're ahead of schedule like like we're ahead of where we have
been in years past and i think that's for a number of different reasons right like obviously it's year
three for beau him and sean have a good rapport a lot of the same guys are coming back so there's a lot of
continuity but like did you guys pick up on that like obviously there's going to be some install
there's some work to be done but does it feel like a team you know that has that chemistry and
rapport from a season ago i think the approach that they have taken certainly with this has been
modified a little bit compared to last year now obviously with davis web has
Now the play caller, you know, the Broncos, they've been going through the visual part of installation when they were lifting weights, right?
No on field work, but you're in meeting rooms after you're lifting and you're going through installation.
You're in phase one of it.
And phase one entails this, this, this, this and this.
And that's going to be the focus throughout OTAs and minicamp.
That's going to be the focus when you first go into training camp because you've got to refresh on it.
It's almost like a quiz, right?
We learn the material.
Now here's the quiz.
And then now we're going to start getting into phase two of that as things obviously progressed there.
I would say maybe from like what they want or if they want to see like the early things,
maybe they're ahead, you know, in this regard.
You know, one thing I noticed, especially when paying attention to the team periods,
Davis Webb was very adamant about guys getting out of the huddle.
And if guys weren't getting out of the huddle and getting lined up how he wanted to,
get back in the huddle, back in the huddle.
Like just they want a clean, crisp, fast operation on that.
And so, I mean, it was kind of like that with Sean, but I think now with Davis,
I think Davis is going to be more of a stickler.
on that, which is a good thing.
So there is this sense of urgency and they feel like they're ahead.
That's great.
And I also think maybe that continuity factor of them having a lot of the same guys back,
that allows them to be ahead.
Well, as far as I'm feeling like they are ahead,
they are feeling like, hey, listen,
we have a lot of confidence coming into the season based on what we did last season.
And no one expected the Broncos to do exactly what they did.
So in that mind, that puts them ahead of the curve.
but what Cody is saying about the team offensively moving with a little more veracity.
Look, we didn't really see that.
You know, full disclosure, we really didn't see that in games with Sean Payton at the helm.
So Davis Webb had to sit back and watch a lot of this take place.
And he couldn't really say anything because where he was positioned on the total pole.
Now he's in a position where he has more of a say and he knows how much that chemistry between he and Boe actually matters.
so we're going to see maybe a little more up-tempo.
And when you look at the offense and not that I'm giving away trade seekers or whatever,
you can tell right away when you watch formations that Dave is well wants to do something a little
different from what Sean did.
Yeah, the personnel is intact with the exception of one Jalen Wado,
but they want to create a lot of movement.
We really didn't see a lot of movement with Sean at the helm.
Now, we did see Marvin Mims in the backfield running those swing routes.
I wouldn't classify that as movement,
but you're going to see a lot of pre-snap movement with Davis Webb.
And that's why I think, like, to Cody's point about kind of being a stickler,
about being crisp coming out of the huddle last season.
And really the last couple of seasons,
we've seen the Broncos kind of struggle to get up to the line of scrimmage before there's
even a reasonable amount of time left on the play clock.
So you're getting up to the line of scrimmage late in the play clock.
Bo has to quickly diagnose.
There's not even really time to send anybody in.
motion, much less use it as an advantage that you can have.
So that excites me, just hearing that coming out of OTAs, even getting back to those
little things because when you, what Sean Payton talked about kind of going back and looking
at last year's offense and kind of trying to diagnose and figure out what went wrong here,
what went wrong there, how can we better here, you know, how can we change this,
making these all these minuscule changes that will add up in a big way.
Those are the little things that when we saw the Broncos come out of the huddle with pace
and they've got time on the play clock and Bo can take a look at the defense and he can make adjustments
or even call a new play at the line of scrimmage.
It took that Broncos offense to another level.
It was those times when we saw, man, they're putting up points.
He's scoring four touchdowns in the fourth quarter against the Giants.
And I realize that's desperation time.
And I realize that you can't do that every single quarter of every game,
although I believe Bo Nix can put up 16 touchdowns in the game based on that.
I think that it's what's really you can glean from,
the Broncos were good offensively is that, man, they were crisp getting out of the
huddle.
They were decisive getting up to the line of scrimmage.
Everything was straightforward.
Nothing was, man, it feels like they're letting the defense pin their ears back and tie them
up that snap and then just get after it, attack the line of scrimmage.
So that, I think, in itself is one of the most exciting developments out of OTAs
is not just the fact that they're potentially going to be using more of that pre-snap motion,
which they were one of the least, you know, teams in the league that used it last year.
but then getting out of that huddle crisp and you don't have to use motion you can get up to the line of scrimmage you can read the defense you can call your audible really quick and just you know i mean that to me is huge for developing this offense and getting to the next level yeah and like even like just through this conversation i want to say it was in a shone post practice media availability i want to say leading up to the buffalo game like he gave that quote and i remember we dissected it like when he's like you know when you get older and you're driving in the rain and you're driving in the rain and
and like, you know, all that kind of stuff.
Like now that we know where the Broncos are heading with Davis Webb as the play caller,
Bo Nix, another year older and wiser, like, I think there's a lot of validity to, like, what that quote meant.
And it ultimately is trying to catapult this team forward a little bit in their operations offensively.
Like, here's the other thing I'll throw up, fellas, like, is year three for Bo Nix coupled with the relationship that he has with Davis Webb?
Like, is this part of the, and kind of what you were talking about, Sarah, like, is this a time we start to see Bo Nix?
Knicks maybe take a little bit more control of the offense, right?
Like especially if he's able to come out and read the defense and call his audibles,
like by the end, you know, midway through the Drew Bree, Sean Payton era.
Like Drew had like complete control that offense.
Like him and Sean Payton were in sync.
Obviously it's a bit of a different situation here.
But like do we now get to the point where Bo is not only confident in himself,
but as the confidence of his play caller to dissect and improv things kind of on the fly
as he sees fit?
I think there was even a little bit of that last year.
I mean, there was times where Bo,
they would come out in something.
The defense would line up in a certain front.
And they just knew, hey, like, this isn't going to work.
And Bo would check out with something.
And even Sean even said, like, you know, Bo has the autonomy to do that.
You know, you don't want to handcuffed to quarterback from being able to make those decisions on the fly.
If he sees something, right.
And here's the thing.
Bo's going to see a three technique a lot better than Sean Payton's going to see a three technique from the sideline.
And so if he looks at that, where's the other defensive linemen, what type of front are they in?
Where are the safety's lined up.
Hey, this is what they look like.
like, you know, we know it's third down.
We're on the right hash.
We know defensively we scouted these looks that they're going to come out in this look.
This is what we got to check into, right?
And it's a given pool.
But I think with Davis, there is going to be a little bit more like, I don't want to say
collaboration because I don't want to make it seem like Bo, like Sean never collaborated,
Bo.
But a lot of it would be Davis says, hey, like, I trust Ball.
I know what Bo can do.
As long as that's operating within the confines of the offense, then we're good with it.
It's going out there and doing the hero stuff, like the stuff that, hey, we didn't script this.
It's almost like voodoo Taylor going in on Friday night lights.
And Coach Taylor is sitting there calling a call.
And he says, nah, screw that.
We're doing this instead.
And then, you know, they go on there.
He throws an interception.
And then he's getting chewed out.
And he's like, what are you doing out there?
Like, that's not how Bowler operates, thankfully.
He's not like voodoo Taylor and Friday night lights the TV show for those
you that don't get the reference.
If you haven't seen that show, you better go watch it.
That's going to get you through to training camp.
But I think there is going to be a lot more collaborative.
in a sense of Davis saying, hey, like, Bo, what do you see here?
And Bo saying, hey, they're coming out on this.
I want to run this.
He's like, all right, hey, you have the autonomy to do that.
When we heard Bo talk about at mandatory minicamp, how he and Davis thinks similarly,
I was just looking up that quote from him to kind of see what Bo said when, you know,
the relationship between those two guys and Davis kind of acknowledged that he no longer
gets to be the warm, fuzzies type of guy.
But I think the fact that Bo pointed out that he and Davis,
think alike, it speaks volumes, not because Bo doesn't think like Sean Payton, but maybe to a
degree that is true, right? I mean, you have different philosophies and how you would do things.
We saw that manifest on the field at different times when Bo said, you know, get the effing personnel in,
you know, or whatever. Like, he's getting ticked off. So you have somebody who now thinks like you
and who is like, yeah, get the effin personnel in. Like that's, when you think alike in that way,
I think that that makes for a much more cohesive operation overall.
When it's like Davis could tell Bo something or call a play or put out a player
formation or personnel formation that Bo's like, oh, wow, I didn't even think of that.
As opposed to like, ah, why are we doing this?
You know what I'm saying?
So it's those momentary flips of the switch in games where Davis is already thinking
ahead of Bo Nix the way that Bo would think.
and the operation is just that much cleaner as a result.
See, here's what I think.
See, when you think about, well, where does Sean Payton really cut his teeth?
I mean, he's coached a lot of places with Andy Reed in Philadelphia,
but he's mostly tied to what coach, and that's Bill Parcells.
As a guy that played for Bill myself, I mean, as far as bedside manner,
Bill has none.
He's a cutthroat guy.
It's A to B.
and Sean has had his backside chapped based on a couple of things that Bill Parcells had said to him.
And this is where the difference between Sean Payton and Davis Webb are different.
Let me take you guys back just a little.
When Russell Wilson was here and Russell was getting chewed out, right, by Sean Payton because Russell didn't do what Sean thought he should do on a particular play.
Russ did what he saw the defense was giving him and just kind of took advantage of that.
wasn't to the liking of one Sean Payton.
What did we see?
We saw on multiple occasions.
One important we saw in Detroit,
where Sean just kind of lamb-baseded him on the sideline.
The first guy to come to him was who?
Davis Webb.
And the game against the Patriots, same thing.
It just seemed as though Sean and Russell wasn't on the same page.
Who was the guy that came to Russell and say,
look, basically, you know who you are.
I know who you are.
Go out there and be Russell Wilson.
See, that was the beginning.
for Davis Webb. And that's why even Jaylon Wado, when he came, he said, you know what, I like
Davis Webb. This is me paraphrasing because he still has a little bit of that former player in him.
See, that is what's helping Davis Webb in his relationship, not just with the wide receivers and Jalen Wano,
but with Bo Nix. Sean is a long time just removed from the game itself. So it's not that same
pattern. It's not that same approach. It's not that same relationship. So both,
success this year is going to hinge heavily on what Davis Webb allows him to do.
And it is at times where your quarterback is on the field.
You have gone through something in training camp in practice, and it looked a certain way.
But game time is different because in practice, those are your guys.
You're giving them scout team cards for them to follow.
The guys on the field, on the opposite team, oh, no, they're for real.
They want to go out and play.
So you have to live and die with Bo being Bo Nix and saying, look, I know what you wanted me to do.
That wasn't there.
I did something else.
If Davis Webb cannot live with that.
If Sean Payton cannot live with that, that's going to be problems on this offense this season.
Yeah.
And again, like I would just add this.
Like, I'm so curious to see how the first six weeks go just because of how brutal that schedule is.
Like, let's just for conversation's sake, they go.
They start out one and four.
like I don't think that's going to happen, right?
But like let's say it's a couple of bad losses and quality teams.
Like how does Sean kind of deal with that in the face of adversity,
knowing that he's still in the driver's seat as the head coach,
but maybe not in the driver's seat of the offense as he has been years past.
Like I think it's fascinating.
And ultimately, like that's what training campus for is get Jalen Wattle,
acclomee to get Evan Ingram up to speed and get him in the game plan.
You know, you're running back from him.
You got to figure out as well.
So I think it's a fascinating discussion.
But I think the other thing I would add is Bo Nix from a.
makeup perspective can be a system quarterback, but also has what it takes to improv and do things
on the fly. Like he's very versatile in the way that I think he can play the position. So ultimately,
we'll see how that shakes out. But let's hit a quick break. When we come back, Sarah sent us an
interesting chart earlier this week that kind of stacks Bow Nicks up to some other quarterbacks
in some interesting rankings. We'll talk about that when we come back right here on your
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And Sarah, I'm going to let you set this one up, my man.
You sent a pretty interesting graph to us earlier in the week
that kind of stacks Bo Nicks up against the rest of the quarterbacks
in the league, excuse me,
in some interesting kind of categories.
And I think Broncos fans will be interested and excited to see where Bo Nix stacks up here.
Yeah, I really love this chart.
It was posted by Joe Goodberry,
who's a Bengals content creator on Twitter.
And really the agenda, I think, for this post was Joe
Burrow hype because Joe Burroughs at the top of this list, but really what it's comparing
is quarterbacks, I don't know how far back this data goes. It's from pro football focus,
but there's some names that kind of indicate maybe how far back it goes. But this is postseason
quarterback play two categories that they're contrasting, turnover worthy play rate and big time
control rate. And we know that those are pretty subjective figures when it comes to pro football
focus, but at the same time, when pro football focus speaks positively of anything that
Bo Nix does, it piques my interest because they really never speak positively about Bo Nix,
but this is what was so fascinating.
Bo Nix's turnover worthy play rate was one of the lowest on this list.
I think he ranked seventh on this list, 2.5%, which is actually tied for the fourth best
with Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, and Matt Ryan.
So, I mean, turnover worthy play rate, and I know Bose only played two.
two postseason games, but it's just 2.5%.
But the really interesting thing is his big time throw rate is 8.5%, which is the third
highest mark on this list behind Caleb Williams, Russell Wilson, and that's it.
So the differential of O.Ni, time throw rate versus turnover worthy play rate in two
postseason games is up there, like I said, among your favorite quarterbacks,
favorite quarterback, Tom Brady, Matt Ryan.
We're talking about playoff.
Eli Manning. We're talking about this goes way back.
So Peyton Manning, by the way.
So Peyton on this list, 3.0% in terms of turnover worthy play rate and a big throw rate in the postseason of 4.7%.
Of course, massive, massive difference of the amount of games that we're talking about having played.
But the fact that Bo has played that well in the playoffs in two games, we know the Broncos got housed in the first one.
Bo has done his part, right?
And I mean, he is, there's something about him.
He talked about it in the media session that he had.
He loved.
He's like, basically he said, and I'm paraphrasing like Nick earlier,
he basically said, like, I wish we would have blown out the bills essentially in the playoffs.
But he's like, I want the ball late in the game.
I like having the ball late in the game.
When the lights are on and when the pressure is at its highest,
this is just further proof that Bo Nix is the best version of himself that he can possibly be.
He says it all the time, too.
He says pressure is a privilege.
And what have we seen in clutch moments?
I mean, for the example, what is it?
In his first two seasons, he's got 10 game winning drives,
come from behind victories, fourth quarter comebacks.
I mean, he's been clutch when it matters.
He makes the on money throws when it matters.
And I even go back to the Kansas City Chiefs game first off at Empower Field
against Patrick Mahomes, third and 15.
They're backed up.
And it could very much swing to where they don't get this.
They got a punt.
And then Mahomes has a chance with about one minute
and something change left, he finds Cortland Sutton for a 20-yard gain on 3rd and 15.
And then, you know, he finds Troy Franklin for what set up the eventual game-winning
field goal for Will Lutz.
And then you go to the Houston game, his 25-yard scramble, goes through and sets up
Lutz's game-winning field goal.
You go in the Buffalo game.
You're trailing.
It's one minute, 55 seconds left, and you got to get down the field.
And then he just goes down.
He moves them down the field in crunch time situation.
Absolute dime.
An amazing throw.
Marvin Mims that a lot of people are raving about in terms of how it looked just a big time
on my ice in his veins.
Bo Nix is someone I think a lot of people should trust in the early sample size.
The early data is very suggestive of that.
Yeah, with this data, obviously it's early in the process because a lot of these quarterbacks
has to this list.
I mean, with Tom Brady being where he is, I mean, that's important that he is definitely
to go.
And everything you want to measure yourself to be at a quarterback, there's still much.
for, you know, Bo Nix to accomplish in this league.
And the stats itself, it tells you that he's trending in the right direction.
So there's so many things to look at when it comes to this list.
But with Joe Burrow being at the top of this list,
I kind of look at him as an outlier because his defense has been trash
since he's been with the Cincinnati Bingo.
So it speaks to volumes of how great he has been in clutch moments.
But when we talk about Bo and we talk about these fourth quarter comebacks,
I mean, Bo did a great job.
I mean, he took advantage of those plays that was,
that were there for him to take advantage of.
And I remember telling Boe last year during training camp,
I mean, hey, listen, lean on the fact that you are one of the more mobile quarterbacks in
this league and the toughest throws are not the throws that everyone wants you to throw
from the pocket.
As a former defensive player, I am a firm believer, man, is getting on a perimeter,
whether you're forced to or is by design because that gives you so many throws that
quarterbacks who are your typical between the tackle, you know,
quarterbacks, to me, on the move, it opens you up.
And I told him, I said, you are one of the better, younger quarterbacks
at being able to throw on the run.
There's a reason Russell Wilson is on this list.
Hell, there's a reason when you look at far as those big throws down the field
that Caleb Williams, a guy who so many people criticize,
he's on this list too as well.
Why?
because the ability to get outside the pocket,
and it's just mathematics, just when you think about it.
How many players are on the perimeter?
It's very few.
The bulk of the players are between the hashes.
That's where it's so hard to throw the ball.
And I know Russell was criticized for so many years,
and I think the four-letter network,
Mehta Kimes, says something about,
well, he doesn't throw down the middle of the field.
You know freaking why?
It's not just because he is heightened deficient.
That's where more the players are.
So it's swarled to get outside, once again, by design or whether you kind of do it on your own.
But Bow is training in the right direction.
And I hope with whatever happens with the offense, he doesn't stop doing that because, like I said,
he's one of the better young quarterbacks at being able to throw on the run.
Yeah.
And I wouldn't say I was skeptical necessarily of Bow Niggs.
Maybe I put my foot in my mouth when I say this, like when he was first drafted.
But it's just like with the history of the Broncos at the court.
quarterback position post Peyton Manning.
Like I just needed to kind of see it to believe it.
And obviously that first game in Seattle was a bit interesting.
And he's really grown and blossom from that moment on.
But it's like, I'll ask this question to you.
Like, what is the weak point of Bo Nix's game?
Because this is a guy that can sit back in the pocket, can do the dink and dunk stuff,
can move outside of the pocket, improv, find a guy on the run.
And you can also hit the deep ball.
Like I think we've seen a maturation process from Bo in his first two seasons in the league.
and I know one of the knocks on him is like, oh, my gosh,
he played so many games in college and, you know,
he's old and the rookie and all that kind of stuff.
I agree, it's not a knock,
but that's what the four-letter network and people were still.
Like, what is the true weakness in his game?
I mean, I was going to say, like,
it's crazy to think that experience is a bad thing.
But that's like, that's what,
if you believe in the NFL train is what Sean Payton always says,
if you listen to that too much and you stay on that train,
it's going to make you make the wrong decisions, right?
Like you look at how the Broncos have drafted.
You look at some guys that they've signed as undrafted guys.
They're bringing in guys who have experience.
Like that's the number one thing.
Look at Alex Paucheske.
Most college games, I think, ever started by a player in NCAA history.
When you talk about the volume there,
Bo Nix playing as many games as he did.
Like, and I think for the quarterbacks,
I think the more games you play,
the better chance you have to develop and come into the NFL right away
because if you are going to be a hype,
pick more than likely you're going to a terrible team. Can you have the talent that can help you
get out of certain situations? I mean, thankfully, the Broncos were able to get Bo Nix. And I remember,
I'll never, I'll never let anybody ever try to live it down that they're like, oh, the Broncos
settled for the sixth best quarterback. He's got the best numbers out of his entire draft class.
So you don't like that. Go pound sand. How about data for you there? Watch the tape. I think what
he and Caleb Williams have been able to do. Drake May obviously had a, you know, a good year last year,
but we saw what happened to him in the postseason.
The dude was just a sieve in terms of just hitting the turf and going down.
There's things that Bo does that help him win games.
And I think, like for me in 2023, I was even saying it.
I was watching him at Oregon because I'm a Ducks fan.
And I was watching them beat the brakes off of CU.
And I said, man, Bo Nixon side of Sean Payton offense, that would be money.
And certainly we've seen the offense improve.
And there's still so much more room to improve for this unit.
Bo obviously has areas he can continue to improve.
improve, but I just keep saying this, like, what if the Broncos figure out the run game finally?
And now they got the defense that they have.
And they allow Bo, who got them out of so many crazy situations last year, allows him to just
see what you take what's in front of him versus having to do things himself.
That to me, I think, can be the key for the Broncos winning it this year.
I completely agree.
And I think to the point of, you know, what are Bo Nix's weaknesses?
Like, we know what he can do so well.
We know that he's capable of playing at a, you know, let's just call it what it is.
Like there's times when Bo Nix plays at an MVP level, but he doesn't play like that all the time.
So what's the disconnect?
I think it's been sort of the every, if I can say it this way, like the Monday through Friday operation of the offense.
It's like, hey, when it's time to party on the weekends, man, Bo Nix can go out there and do it with the best of them.
You know, he can go out there and get the lawn care stuff done.
He's getting the family time in.
he can crush the weekends.
But when it comes to the Monday through Friday,
are we having a clean operation and everything that we're doing?
And that's not that he's to say that he doesn't want to do it,
but we're getting batted passes at the line of scrimmage.
We don't have necessarily the accuracy on throws to every level of the field
as often as we should, right?
And those are the sort of things like a lapse in footwork here leads to a turnover
there,
leads to a seven and nothing lead for the other team that you have to now come
back from as opposed to playing with a 7-0 lead if the footwork was right. So there's different
aspects of Bo's game that, I mean, we all watch the, I think we all watch the Tim Jenkins
breakdowns. So you guys watch the games yourselves and we see, oh, this is what happened on this
particular play. And you can't necessarily stop the butterfly effect of those mistakes. When it
comes to an NFL game, you can make up for it. Like we saw him do against, remember the Colts game
a couple years ago where he threw three interceptions in that game, but he came back from those
interceptions and needed a little help from his friend Nick Benito to make a game changing play.
But Bo also threw three touchdowns in that game, right? So he's proven to be able to overcome
his mistakes or his shortcomings. But I think that is one thing that can be better is if you
start with the batted passes at the line of scrimmage, because the short area passing game is such
an extension of the Broncos running game, I don't know how much that will be with Davis Webb.
But I think those are areas that he can clean up is, okay, you're a third year.
pro now, those things can't be happening. The lapses in the footwork or maybe maybe every once in a
while instead of a time or two a game, right? That's where you have to limit the frequency of those
mistakes. And because Bo has played so much football, I think he knows inherently I can overcome
whatever happens here. But can you play within the structure of the offense? Like the Monday through
Friday, you're clocking in for your nine to five. Can you play within the structure of that
offense and not just be the hero when, you know, it's time to be the hero.
For Bo, for Bo Nix, here's what he has to do.
He has to go back and watch film for these three quarterbacks,
Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, and Tom Brady.
Why?
All three of those guys that played against, all three of those guys were solid with their footwork.
neither one of those guys have what anyone, you know, who's evaluating talent,
and the NFL would consider to be strong quarterback arms to drive the ball down the field.
They don't have a Jay Cutler type of arm, but everything started with their base.
Everything started with their footwork.
So when it comes to Bo, there's three things he needs to work on.
Sarah hit on him.
I mean, one of those things is his footwork.
I said before, he's one of the better younger quarterbacks getting outside the pocket,
throwing a ball down the field. His problem sometimes when he does that is setting his feet,
getting his feet both set on the ground. Bo likes to throw off of one foot a lot.
When you do that, that is pure arm strength pushing your ball down the field. And what that means,
it takes a little off of your fastball. The accuracy is not there as much as you will like.
And this is where we see Bo get himself in trouble. The other thing is the release point, right?
Sarah's talking about balls battered down, you know, at the line of scrimmage.
And we've seen it last year twice, right, on two deep balls, one to Marvin Mims,
one of Cortland Sutton.
Bo, if he releases it, like right now, that's a big explosive play,
probably a touchdown for either guy.
But he continued to climb the pocket so much.
He was on the back hills of his center.
So it took a little off because he was trying to release the ball and he couldn't really follow through.
If he learns to release the ball,
the ball. So as he see it, let it fly, then you'll see more completions and balls down the field.
The other aspect of his game is playing from under center, right? When you play from under center,
guess what? It forces everything to be faster. And I think if bow is under center more than he is
in the shotgun, it's going to give those dig routes, those routes from 10 to 15 yards
an opportunity to develop because when you're in the shotgun, here's the pro,
and con of it. You can see what the defense is going to do. You can see the guys kind of, you know,
the moving around, the inverted safeties or whatever. So you can know, you know exactly where
you're going to go with the ball before the ball is snapped. When you're on the center, that decision has to be
quick, right? And your footwork speeds you up. And that's the biggest thing, Drew Breeze,
Tom Brady, and Peyton Manning, speeding up the footwork. Because we can say, get the ball out of your
hand, get the ball out of your hand. You know what speeds it up? Footwork, because when you're in a shotgun,
you're already in your five, seven step drop already. And what we see, bow bouncing, he's patting
a ball, he's looking for someone. And then we have to listen to the commentator say, well,
he is indecisive because he's holding on to the ball. No, he's waiting for the route to develop
and come clear. But once he's on the center, the footwork would be there and it's going to be, well,
the route and the throw and his footwork are going to be married together.
So those are the three things I think Bo needs to work on this season.
I would say too for like the under center stuff.
That's also mostly on coaching.
It's not like, hey, Bo, you know, it's like, Bo, go go under center.
And the coach has got to put them under center primarily.
And I would say, maybe there's probably going to be a little more balance of that this year.
I know last year they're really trying to get that outside zone scheme going.
I don't think that's going to be something that's in their forte this year.
So I would like to see that.
And even Mike McGlinchie kind of hinted to it a little bit of, you know, off the play action.
You know, he called it, you know, the play pass.
That's what he called it.
I think that stuff is going to open up a little bit because the best way to do that is under center.
Of course, you could do play action out of shotgun, but it's not as hard of a cell versus when you are,
let's say you run the ball, the first two plays.
Let's say you get like seven yards on first down, right?
But you're handing the ball out from under center and you're hitting the two hole or the four hole or the three hole or the five hole on the right side,
whatever may be or left side.
Well, now all of a sudden you sell that look,
the defense thinks, hey, they got us on this.
They're going to run the ball again.
And that's where you go, and then you do the play action,
and then you unload it downfield,
the Marvin Mims or Troy Franklin or Jalen Waddle.
So it opens up.
It's complimentary.
We need some old school Mike Shanahan naked boots, man.
I mean, we need the naked boot back in the Broncos off.
That was my favorite play.
Those are my favorite plays when Jake Plummer would get outside the pocket
and nobody would know who has the ball.
And then all of a sudden,
and he's just chucking it down to Ashley Lilly or Rod Smith or Ed McCaffrey or you can,
you name it.
Glenn Martinez might still be down there wide open somewhere.
I love those plays so much.
And I think that's what Bo needs.
Like that's the confidence from your,
your head coach and your offensive coordinator to say like,
hey, we,
and that also speaks to the value of your running game.
If your running game is that good,
that defenses are biting that hard on your play action from under center,
that's such an advantage for a quarterback.
for an offense.
And I think for Bo Nix, Chase Daniel recently said something about how it took him
roughly three years to, like, get the marriage of the footwork and the timing of Sean
Peyton's offense down, even just mentally, like the mental physical sink that had to
happen, this physiological effect of Sean Peyton's offense, because there's a lot going on
with that.
And we understand that.
That's part of the reason why Bo was so valuable to Sean is because he started 40-some-odd games
in college.
So there's less you have to teach a guy like that.
He doesn't need as much time on task to be good in the NFL.
However, learning a scheme and marrying footwork to your arm mechanics and to the timing
with your receivers that this year is where the continuity for the Broncos, coaching staff,
playmakers, all of that is going to absolutely bubble over this year because now
Beau is going to have had time to marry the footwork to the feetwork to the football.
to the physiological of knowing the concept, knowing the playbook, knowing the timing, chemistry
with the receivers, all of it.
You know what you're talking about, Sarah?
And I'm glad you brought up all those great guys and talking about those particular plays,
those naked bootlegs, throwback across the field to Ashley the Lee and Rod Smith.
What you're basically talking about, the basic fundamentals of the Shanahan offense.
If you look around the NFL, we see teams who have.
have excelled at it. I mean, you look at Zach Taylor with Cincinnati. He's trying to implement it.
Both Sean McVeigh and Calh Shanahan, they are exquisite at it. You see Matt LaFleur using with the
Green Bay Packers. You're going to see Mike LaFleur try to implement it with the Arizona Cardinals.
You're going to see it twice a year with Mike McDaniel being an officer coordinator for
the Los Angeles Chargers, where he looked at Amarian Hampton and say, well, he is Terrell
Davis-esque, right? We'll find it out.
Crazy. But once again, it is all built off of a couple of concepts. Outside zone,
your quarterback being on the center and running the freaking ball. And this is where Mike
Shanahan and Sean Payton are totally different, right? They both were quarterbacks,
former quarterbacks. They both played at the same college, not at the same time,
but Sean throws a ball to run the ball, right? That's why we saw Bo Nix.
with averaging about 39 passing attempts every game.
But when you look at Mike Shanahan offense,
they run the ball to pass the ball.
And they don't care if they take an L on the run play.
Guess what?
They're going to keep doing it.
Sean doesn't do that, right?
He doesn't.
No.
So that's something that kind of really think about.
Well, we have a few weeks to think about it coming to training camp,
but of course the preseason,
the regular season.
Great conversation there on Bo Nix.
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a guy who I think has a lot to prove
with the Broncos next season.
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with Davis to play caller?
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Okay, I don't think I'm out of pocket what I'm saying.
Evan Ingram and Drake Greenlaw probably tied for just underwhelming seasons relative to expectation last year, right?
Like I think a lot of people had high hopes for Greg Greenlaw.
Obviously, we know he's out in San Francisco now, one and done here in Denver.
And Evan Ingram, I mean, just a guy that never really loved.
lived up to what I think Broncos country thought they were getting.
I mean, last year for Ingram, 50 catches for 4161 yards and only one touchdown.
And I know some early reports, Cody, you were there.
Nick, you were there as well, is that Evan Ingram looks pretty good in minicamp and OTAs.
I mean, I'll kick it to you, Cody, kind of give us a status check, a gut check per se,
on Evan Ingram going into year two with Denver.
Yeah, I mean, I was going to say in terms of the most distance, I don't even think it was
close to a tie.
I think it was Drey Greenlaw by a large mile.
I don't even think Evans in that consideration there.
And the reason is, is not Evans' fault as to what happened.
Sure, Evan did have some drops.
I think that, you know, you can hold him accountable on that.
I'd also say on half of his eight drops there, no, no disrespect to Bo.
Bo did, bow didn't throw him the ball in spots where it should have been on a few of those
drops that we certainly saw him have last year.
But played a career low and overall snaps played for him entering a very, very important
juncture of his career, still showcasing at times.
He can be the guy.
But Sarah and I just went over this on an episode of lockdown that we did earlier this week.
The Broncos primary two routes that they ran Evan on were crossing patterns and the out route.
The out route was by far the largest overall percentage of routes that he ran collectively last season.
I believe it was somewhere along the lines of 360-something total routes last year.
Well, a large portion of those 23, 34 percent were variance between crossing and obviously the out route right there.
So it was almost telegraphed as to where he was.
would be. And also on a down-to-down basis, it even showcased that as well, where,
hey, first down, this is what Evan's running. Third down, this is what Evan's running.
Made it easier for defenses there. And so I think his overall usage, because the Broncos want to live
in 12 and 13 personnel, and they wanted guys like Adam Trotman, Nate Atkins or Mercedes-Louis to be
blockers, it kind of took Evan out of the offense a little bit, and they never could find a rhythm.
So I'm not even putting what happened last year on Evan. I'm putting some of the drops on Evan,
but I think his overall production.
I think that the lack of Denver doing that,
I don't think that's on Evan.
I would agree with you.
Let me ask you this, though, then,
because you bring up a good point about Troutman and Atkins and Mercedes-Louis.
Like, why sign Evan Ingram then?
Like, if you know that he's like not the,
and I understand now it's a new offense with Davis-Web
or at least a new flavor to the offense.
Like, why bring in Evan in the first place
if he doesn't schematically kind of fit what you're trying to run?
Like that's because I agree with,
but I think what Evan's struggles are pretty.
receive struggles. Some of it's on him, of course, but I think a lot of it was on the personnel
and just the way they operate within the offense. Well, it's almost like what Sean Payton writes
on his thing, run the ball and he doesn't run the ball. That's on him, right? I think it's,
we have an idea, but then when you get into the heat of the game, you're so tunnel vision that
you don't realize it. And you're like, you know, we got to, we got to stay in this because
we're going against a pass rusher this week. And we're going to have Troutman, chip the guy.
We're going to come out and have an extra, we're going to go 13 person. We're going to have two
tight ends and a tackle to chip Max Crosby.
Like it's those things right there.
But, you know, you can't rob Paul to pay Peter.
And you got to find a way to put Evan Ingram on the field in those situations because
against inside linebackers that may be slower or not as athletic.
That's the advantage that you want to take a, you know, you want to try to get Evan
Ingram involved.
He did that against Jamie and Sherwood in London.
You know, we saw him come up with some clutch catches.
It's like, man, how do you expect Evan to come in when he's cold and he hasn't been
able to have a chance to get rhythm going there?
And the first time you throw him in is like eight minutes left in the second quarter is when he gets his first target of a game.
It's like, wait, what's going on here?
Evan, in my opinion, is the furthest thing from the problem from what we saw with the Broncos offense.
And I'd say the tight end position.
Barry Kiercy, how it changes though, with Davis Webb.
From what we've seen at OTAs, it seems like Davis has featured Evan quite a bit, has gotten in the ball a lot more during this off season than we even saw from him last off season.
Well, and Evan talked about after the season, right, that he basically.
basically had to disconnect himself from his weekly involvement.
Like he, he essentially said that, right?
He essentially said, like, I kind of had to stop thinking about, you know,
what, what's my role going to be week in and week out and kind of just be ready
when my number was called?
And that's a difficult position to be in any role that you're playing,
no matter what it is, just to always be ready.
I mean, maybe Evan should talk to Pat Sartan about what that's like and, you know,
get his advice on, hey, how are you ready when the ball never,
your way.
But I'll get to decide, I think we saw last year when there was a concerted effort to get
Evan Ingram involved, he was that dynamic weapon that the Broncos wanted him to be.
Cody referenced the Jets game in London when the Broncos in the first half decided
screwing Evan's getting the ball.
Like we're giving him the ball.
Like what we saw against him in the last game, the second half, you know, he scores the touchdown,
which I can't believe it was the only touchdown he scored for the.
team all year. But man, we saw what he did against Philly and the catches that he made against
the Giants. And now all of a sudden, okay, getting Evan the ball against New York. And then that
disappeared in the second half because Evan disappeared in the second half. And then you go against
Washington. You're like, all right, we're getting Evan the ball. The commanders are going to give
us man coverage looks and you, you know, shake off Bobby Wagner and send him into retirement.
And Evan dominates the game. And then he disappears next game. So I think it is just the coaches getting
him involved and making that concerted effort because like I mentioned the last squad show that we did,
how many games did we see? We're getting Pat Bryant the ball. We're getting even Marvin Mims the
ball a time or two. We're getting Troy, like Troy Franklin's going to have his 12 targets in this game.
Cortland Sutton's going to get 12 targets this game. RJ Harvey is going to be featured in the
passing game in this game. Frank Crum getting a target in this game. Gosh, dang it. You know what I'm
saying? Like everybody almost but Evan Ingram, who ended up being third on the team in target.
simply because the Broncos led the NFL in past attempts,
not because they really, oh, he was our third most involved player in the past game.
I think just a byproduct of throwing a lot of passes.
So to me, if you make the concerted effort to get Evan involved,
he's the player that is going to heat up the more that he gets those opportunities.
You know, I listen to both Sarah and Cody list all these things about Evan Ingram.
And then Cody said, well, it's not really Evan Ingram.
It's kind of the coaches.
Here's the way I look at it because I was sitting here, man, jumping at the
I was like, oh, man, I can't wait.
Here's what you guys basically said.
Yeah, is it a little of the coaches?
Yeah.
Is it a little of Evan Ingram?
Because I go back to the fact of Sean was so excited to get Evan Ingram and things
are supposed to be different.
I mean, we heard everyone talking about, well, you know, he's going to be the Joker.
Even Evan Ingram himself put a jiff, gift, whatever the hell you want to call it,
on social media of, you know, the Joker hanging out Heath Ledger outside of the car,
you know, in the Batman movie, right?
So everyone was hype.
Everyone was excited.
But we didn't get it.
And the way that I looked at it, that Joker was locked up in Arkham Asylum because he wasn't
that dude.
And you just said it.
You have a guy that has talent like Evan Ingram.
Inside the Red Zone, you're giving Frank Crumb the ball.
That's utterly disrespectful.
And if Evan Ingram had to figure out every single week, well, am I in the game plan this week?
Am I not?
So what that told me was there was a lack of confidence.
What they thought they were getting, they didn't get.
So they didn't involve him that much in the offense.
And his confidence dropped drastically.
And their confidence dropped drastically because there were several games that Evan
Ingram was up for, right?
He was an active participant, right?
from a uniform standpoint, but he was not involved with the offense.
How can you say that this is a joker and you don't utilize him in that way, right?
It's the same for Marvin Mims, another talented player.
The team lost confidence in him, and then he only goes in the game when Troy Franklin has a hamstring injury
or Pat Bryan is dinged up with a concussion, right?
So it's a combination of both.
So Evan has to come out and he has to truly show what he is as a tight end.
And to give you an example,
a tight-in that I wanted the Broncos to draft,
but they didn't draft it.
Trey McBride, right?
Trey McBride last season had 126 receptions,
1,200 yards and 11 touchdowns.
Tyler Warren, another tight-in I wanted the Broncos to draft.
Well, he had four touchdowns.
He had 76 targets similar to Evan Ingraham.
But guess what?
Ingram only had 486.
yards on the season. Tyler Warren, a rookie, he had almost 900 yards. What's the difference?
It's the confidence level the team has in the player and the player has in himself.
If you are running back, any one of you guys are running backs and every running back wants the
ball. You don't get the ball. And then they give you the ball. You're out of rhythm, right? The same
thing happened, say what you want to say about Jerry Judy. The same thing happened with Jerry Judy, right?
The fact that you're not really giving him the ball for whatever internally was going on.
And then when you finally give it to him, he's not expecting it.
And then guess what?
He drops the damn ball.
So his comp, Giovante Williams confidence wrecked.
Evan Engel confidence wrecked.
Jerry Judy confidence wrecked.
You know why?
They were not being utilized.
So the player confidence goes down and the organizational confidence goes down.
That's what happened with Evan Engel.
Well, I would say Jerry's situation.
Jerry also did it to himself.
Jerry had a terrible attitude and all of that.
It didn't help with a lot of things.
But when you were talking about Trey McBride,
I just couldn't help to smirk a little bit just because like great player.
But in Arizona, that Arizona team is god awful.
They're going to be terrible this year.
This was Trey McBride last year.
He was the Ferrari in a trailer park going through whatever happened last year.
And here's the crazy thing about him.
What was it?
If I'm not mistaken, didn't Trey McBride?
not have a touchdown for the longest time last season, even though he was the most feature guy.
Let me look at it this way.
Okay, well, he or it was two years ago.
He had 147 targets at 2024, only had two touchdowns on 111 catches.
Last year was obviously a huge breakout from 11 touchdowns.
But two years ago, my, like, shiny, Ferrari in a trailer park he is.
And certainly, I think he would be great here in Denver specifically.
I think if he were to be on this team,
Adam Troutman wouldn't even be on the roster.
He would be playing all that role because I think he is one of those unique guys
that can block, can be a pass catcher for you.
Unfortunately, Troutman, his strength is more so as a blocker than it is a pass
catching option.
Though I will say I am very excited to see Dallin Bentley.
I'm excited to see Dallin Bentley what he can do going forward here,
especially in the preseason.
But so much of it, I think, is just like the personnel
know what they were asked to do.
And like Cortland Sutton even went to bat and saying like,
hey, I don't like the disrespect towards our tight end room because here's what
they're being asked to do.
They're doing exactly what they're being asked to do.
And I think you got to find a way to use that in the passing game.
I think Davis Webb, if anything, as a former quarterback, knows the importance of,
hey, you know, sometimes when everything's kind of falling apart, you need a tight end
to throw the football too.
I think obviously his connection with Josh Allen and knowing what that was like.
And let me see it with Josh, even in Buffalo.
How much does he rely on?
on guys like Kincaid and Dawson Knox so much.
There are huge security blankets for them.
And the Broncos need to find those guys that can establish themselves as that here in Denver.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
Let's hit our final break.
When we come back, we put a bow on the show.
What are we looking for in training camp?
A couple of closing thoughts when we come back right here on your Lockdown Broncos squad show.
All right, welcome all back into the program.
It is your Lockdown Bronco squad show winding down here on this Friday.
Friday. And yeah, I mean, like, look, this is the, the true dead period of the off season, right?
You get a little taste with the OTAs. You get a little taste with the mini camp and then it's taken away from you.
But then once we get to the middle to end portion of July, I mean, it is full steam ahead
until hopefully February 14th, right, which is the Super Bowl. So make your thanks, or not Thanksgiving,
make your Valentine's Day plans ahead of time if you've got wives and girlfriends and all that kind of stuff with the big game being on the 14th of February.
but I mean this is going to kind of be like this is the next few weeks right we'll kind of do some forecasting and projecting but just kind of your early expectations for training camp here fellows I mean I know we've got some time between now and then is it simply just get away recharge hit the ground running I mean I think you have an Ingram discussion is interesting I think we watch what happens potentially with Marvin mims and you know there's there's a lot of other stuff at play here but I think for the most part fellas the Broncos are in a really good spot I'd say they're in a very good spot going into it
Sarah, you go first, my friend.
No, sorry, I was just going to say, I mean, Sean Peyton said,
when he canceled the last day of mandatory minicamp,
like they're excited to see these guys in pads.
So now that he's moved into that CEO type of role as the head coach,
he's not calling the plays.
He's not necessarily part of that in as in-depth as he previously was.
His first takeaway or his major takeaway after three weeks of practices is,
I can't wait to get the pads on now because that's the next step in the evolution
of seeing how much this team has.
has grown since that game against the Buffalo Bills.
I also wanted to just quickly put my last little, you know,
nugget into this Davis Webb, Evan Ingram conversation.
Davis Webb, his first year as a starter for Texas Tech, okay?
Do you guys remember the name Jace Amaro?
How big of a prospect that guy was.
That was Davis Webb's favorite target.
I mean, back at Texas Tech in that first year that he had 2013,
when Davis Webb was the full-time starter,
Jace Amarro, that season, 106 catches.
13152 yards, seven touchdowns wasn't all-American.
And obviously, we know Davis has a relationship with Evan.
They played together on the Giants.
So I think just to put my last stamp on that,
kind of an interesting little full circle potential factoid there to keep in mind
that we know Davis Webb loves the tight ends,
the big athletic boys at that position.
I think he's going to get Evan involved this season.
Yeah.
And I think from where Denver is going at in Trent Camp,
there's really nothing.
I don't think that there's like any wide.
spread concern. I don't even think the Marvin Mim stuff is even going to be a concern. I think that
stuff is going to naturally take care of itself. Conversations don't typically have.
And Sarah actually pointed us out in a show we did this week that these conversations don't
typically start until really training camp because you have to go through this whole process.
You have to go through framework. And ideally it's it's seeing like, hey, is there feasibility?
Could we get this done before the regular season? If not, we'll try to focus on it during the season.
Worst case scenario, those talks maybe extend a little bit toward the end of the season going
into free agency, whatever it may be, or hopefully you can get a deal done at the buzzer before
the new league year begins. So I just think the Denver's in a good spot right now. I think the biggest
thing is just guys, a healthy summer here for the Broncos coming out of training camp clean.
They've done a really good job in terms of not really losing a handful of guys. They've lost
Drew Sanders last year. A few years ago, they had the really freak incident with Quinn Bailey
when he broke his leg during practice. That was a gruesome sight to see there. But aside from that,
guys have been coming out of camp for the.
the most part, pretty healthy.
And I would say, too, we're going to see a lot of them in the preseason.
The fact that there's no joint training camp practices, well, hey, we're going to see three
games of the starters getting in on the action on the preseason, which I think is going to be
good because last year we only saw two.
So they're going to get those reps.
And I'm excited two of those games are at home.
One of them is on the road in Atlanta to start off the preseason.
So a lot of moving pieces here.
For me, man, these guys coming back, they have to build off the momentum they've established
going back to that Patriots game.
game even though that was a loss.
And this would be the first start for them, not OTAs, not start of offseason.
But when they come back to training camp, every guy has to be committed.
And remember what they lost, I mean, the opportunity that was before them that was squandered
away, they could have been the team in the Super Bowl.
And that's the first thing I would show them if I'm Sean Payton.
I would show them that Patriots game to kind of fire them up and get that, you know,
stomach rumbling in their bellies to get them ready to go because that's what they're going to need.
Obviously, Cody, you just list a plethora of injuries that the Broncos have sustained.
That's the one thing about football.
It's a physical sport.
You can't put players in bubble wrap.
In order to get good at football, you have to play freaking football.
So I'm hoping that the offensive line comes back with a new attitude, not just every other player,
but just that office of line having that physical.
we're going to grind guys up having that Tom,
Natal and John Runyon type of attitude
because we don't really have any of those
offensive linemen that we can say, man,
you know, if there was a John Madden,
tough guy of the year of war,
you don't really have those guys, right?
And I'm talking about guys who are grimy.
They don't give two nickels about anyone.
All they know is a man in front of me
and I'm about to rip his face off.
If you get that type of attitude across the board
from all five offensive linemen and they'll commit it.
The run game that we haven't seen get on track the past couple of years
and Sean Payton's offense,
we don't have to worry about talking about Bo in his foot and passing the ball.
We don't have to worry about that.
You know why?
Because they're running the ball at 120 yards a clip.
And I think anyone, I don't care who you are as a football fan.
You would love to see the Broncos able to do that
because that keeps Vance Joseph defense fresh.
and the whole idea of Zach Allen saying, hey, yeah, man, we're looking to break the sack record.
That happens if the offensive linemen come back and there are a whole bunch of toughness.
That's the only way that happens.
I agree.
I agree.
Well, good stuff today, as always, fellows, enjoy your weekend for everyone that is listening.
Same to you.
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and we'll get you guys through this dead period.
And once we hit training camp, it's go time, baby.
So for Cody Works, Sarah Beddinger, Nick Ferguson,
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