Locked On Broncos - Daily Podcast On The Denver Broncos - BRONCOS SQUAD SHOW: How does Sean Payton's Contract Extension IMPACT the Denver Broncos
Episode Date: June 12, 2026The Broncos and Sean Payton agreed to terms on a five-year contract extension. How does that impact the future of the organization? How will the Broncos perform now that Payton is extended? Plus, OTAs... roll on as the ramp up to training camp continues. Also, Davis Webb met with the media as the Broncos evolution on offense continues. Join Aniello Piro, Cody Roark, Sayre Bedinger and Nick Ferguson on today's Locked On Broncos Squad Show! Everydayer Club If you never miss an episode, it’s time to make it official. Join the Locked On Everydayer Club and get ad-free audio, access to our members-only Discord, and more — all built for our most loyal fans. Click here to learn more and join your team’s community: https://lockedonpodcasts.com/everydayerclub Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! FanDuel Today's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. From the opening whistle to the final kick, Let There Be Goals on FanDuel. Visit https://FANDUEL.COM to get started now. Square If you’re starting a business, or running one that deserves better tools, Square helps you sell, manage, and grow without slowing down. Right now, you can get up to $200 off Square hardware at https://square.com/go/LockedOnNFL. Indeed Listeners of this show get a $75 Sponsored Job Credit to help give your job the premium placement it deserves at http://Indeed.com/podcast. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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I'm a Lopiro, and to be honest with you guys out there, I did not have a Sean Payton contract extension on my bingo card for this week.
Cody, your work, a mile high sports here while Sean Payton got a brand new lucrative deal.
The one thing he's going to miss about the Broncos old team facility is the kitchen.
Sarah Bedinger, predominantly orange Broncos OTAs are back and Davis Webb, man, excited to finally hear from him and what he had to say about the new weapon.
that he's got in his offense.
I'm Nick Ferguson, and are the Broncos turning to a different edge rusher?
Hmm, very interesting.
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A lot to unpack in the world of Broncos football.
We'll talk plenty of OTAs, but the big news that came down yesterday that I feel like
we got to start with on the program here today is a five-year contract extension for Broncos
head coach Sean Payton. And as I said in my cold open, I didn't necessarily have that on my bingo
card. This Davis Webb head coach of the future theory that I had might be dead, at least for a few
years. And ultimately, Sean gets paid him and George Payton running concurrently for another five
years. Gentlemen, what's good? Well, you know, I know you didn't have it on your bingo card,
But to the point, I still think now it even expands things further.
You know, while Davis Webb could get opportunities elsewhere,
especially at the Broncos offense booms this upcoming season,
I think we have a situation where Davis Webb will likely stay with the Broncos for a long time.
Kind of how Josh McDaniels did with Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots,
seems like Davis is very invested.
If he's attached at the hip of a franchise quarterback,
then I think that makes it a little more appealing.
But I'm excited to see what the Webb Slinger can do here for the Broncos offense.
Yeah, I'm with you for sure.
Sayre, Nick, you're just initial thoughts here on the Sean Payne extension.
I love it.
I told you guys last time I just got done watching Spider-Noar, so it's the perfect
time to talk about the web slinger.
I love it.
It's great stuff.
And yeah, I agree with Cody.
I feel like Davis having had the opportunity to go work in Baltimore with Lamar Jackson,
to potentially go work in Buffalo with Josh Allen, to potentially go to Vegas and have
the number one overall pick at the quarterback position, the fact that he's,
he stuck around with Bo Nix and the Denver Broncos does speak volumes and maybe to his longevity
with the organization because what Sean Peyton says is very true, you know, he's been blessed
to work for some really great owners. I mean, with the Saints, obviously, and now in Denver,
in the Mile High City where the Walton Penner family ownership group, just proving that
they had no experience in football. They only had their business experience. And I mean, it was a
wealth of business experience. So I say only. But look, when they came in, they realized like the
culture has to be changed. And I just think it's funny to think back to all the different receipts
that are out there about people who said that Sean would be lucky to make it to the end of his first
contract with the Denver Broncos. People who felt like the Broncos were, you know, five years
away from even competing for anything at all when they cut Russell Wilson in 2024. They're the
laughing stock of the NFL, you know, after the 2022 season, you get blown out on Christmas Day
by Baker Mayfield and the Rams. And you fire Nathaniel Hackett the very next day and just tough
decisions made by this ownership group that ultimately led to an extremely divisive decision
to trade for Sean Payton, that it wasn't just hire him. It was trade a first and a second
round pick for a coach, which that does not happen very often. So I love the fact that he got this
five-year extension because it.
it really just gives the middle finger to so many different people who said that this stuff couldn't work,
that Sean was past his prime or that Sean was riding the coattails of Drew Breeze or that it was all just, you know, this, that or the other.
People hate Sean Payton. We get it. We get it. This like that stick is old. So I love that he's got this extension.
And I think it speaks volumes to what he's been able to accomplish in a short amount of time.
while everything saying is absolutely true,
the one thing I look at is that before,
there seemed to be overt or outside the building,
a similar to power struggle between Sean Payton and George Payton.
Both of these guys signing five-year deals,
and you're looking at the fact that George signed first
and then Sean, to me, whatever was an issue before,
it's not an issue anymore.
And sometimes that happens in a relationship,
everyone wants to do what they want to do,
but you have to do was in the best interest of the organization.
And I'm glad to see that both of these men are still together.
Now, the question is, when you look at it,
you got George Payton first, got Sean Payton.
The next guy with the massive deal would be Bo Nix.
Now, someone was trying to tell me,
based on the fact of what Patrick Mahomes received with the Kansas City Chiefs,
that's only going to elevate the price for Bo Nix.
It's going to take it up,
but it's not going to take it up today.
that particular numbers because those two guys have different resumes.
Bo has not,
has yet to even clips a fraction or a third of what Patrick Mahomes has done in his career.
But we do know Bo is going to get a new deal.
But I want to touch on the Davis Webb situation for just a second because I don't
think just because Sean has a five-year deal and Davis Webb has been here for a while
that he wants to stay because if he is a competitor, which I think that he is,
that he is, he's going to want to establish his own team.
He wants to do his own thing.
So I think the idea of just saying that Davis Webb is just going to stick around here
for the next five years, waiting for Sean to retire because he just loves it here.
I don't think that's the case, man.
I just think that if it's not next year, it could be two years from now.
If there's an opportunity, which it will be if Bo Nix does what we expect him to do,
we can wave bye-bye to Davis Webb.
should be something that's on his mind.
Maybe.
I think the jury or go ahead, I'm sorry.
No, as you can say, maybe.
I mean, just the vibe I get initially,
and this could always change, right?
I always think things are contingent, like it can change.
But the vibe is for Davis and for so many other guys who had opportunities,
like even Sam Ellinger, Jared Stiddlem, like they want to stay here in Denver.
There's something about Denver.
And so for Davis, he wants to be part of that.
And I think that for Davis, he had plenty of opportunities to go and do something for
himself. But I think for this experience, working and learning under Sean, I mean, it doesn't make
sense that, you know, Davis will be ready to just jump at the next opportunity. I think if Davis
were to leave, it would have to be the rod opportunity, not a opportunity. And I think those
situations don't always open up necessarily. So I will be very curious to see like what happens
a year from now, two years from now, how Davis, I think himself just grows as a play caller. I, you know,
because I do think when you get into that territory, let's say,
first year play caller and then you jump to being head coach.
The chances of that necessarily working out, it's hard.
It's hard at times.
Even if you have good leadership traits,
I think there's going to be more experience to be had here for Davis,
I think ultimately before he becomes a head coach.
And I think that's maybe a personal preference of his as well.
But Cody, I think that's why he came back.
Even though he got those two interviews,
we all knew that it was a little too premature.
He wasn't ready because he wasn't calling plays.
But it was because he was on the champagne.
He was a bow nix.
The team went from 8 and 9, right?
And then they did well the next year, 10 and 7, and then 14 to 3.
So it was like, yeah, I mean, everyone's looking for that young, flashy offensive coordinator.
That's why Declan Doyle went to Detroit, I mean, to Chicago, excuse me, to learn under Ben Johnson.
Now he's an OC for the Baltimore Ravens, and the Ravens do well.
And Lamar numbers go up.
Guess what happens to Declan Doyle.
door. He's now in that conversation for an O.C. And we see that mostly on the offensive side of the
ball because the clear path to becoming a head coach in the NFL is working on the offensive side
of the ball. You go from being a quarterback coach to officer coordinator, whether you're calling plays
or not, and then now you fast track to become a head coach. That's the path that Davis Webb is on,
and by Sean Payton relinquishing, whether he did it on his own or he was forced to give up those
play calling duties. Now is an opportunity for Davis Webb. And once again, his future as a head coach
is not just only tied to Sean. It's tied to Bo. So Bo does well in 2027. I mean, now we're going
to see Davis Webb with multiple opportunities. And I would say, man, he would be a fool to stay
with Denver. And unless I get it. I love Denver. But to be a head coach in the NFL, even if it's
short-lived, man, you got to jump all over that.
I think there's something to be said.
And ultimately, guys, like the jury's still out on this.
Like, Sean McVeigh obviously kind of broke the system when he was hired as the Rams coach at the age of 30, right?
Davis Webb is currently 31 years old.
But the other part of this, too, is I think there's a legitimate argument in conversation that the Broncos have the best ownership group in football.
And yeah, maybe you don't have that head coaching status.
But the, I don't know if comfort is the right word, but the access to resources in the facility.
like you're living so good here in Denver knowing the ownership group that you have and you're
going to be well paid and well compensated like to Cody's point like if you're Davis Webb and I hear
what you're saying as well Nick about like there's only so many head coaching opportunities you've got to get that on your
resume right but I think one of the luxuries that Davis Webb has right now is the ability to pick and choose
and it's like do you want and I'm just spitball in here like do you want to take a Carolina job or one of these
organizations that has a history of being dysfunctional or would you like to wait and see for a Green Bay Packer
type of job to open with like a marquee franchisor.
You know, none of these coaches are necessarily in jeopardy, right?
But like to me, there's one thing about being a head coach in the NFL.
There's another thing of having the flexibility to continue to grow with the Broncos,
kind of hone in your craft and potentially have one of these marquee franchises open up
and call it two or three years.
So I think Davis Webb has the ability to be pretty selective with where he wants to go.
And here's the other thing.
I'll put my tinfoil hat on for Sare.
Like let's say the Broncos win the Super Bowl in the next two to three.
years. At that point, I don't think Sean's going to give up the 20 plus million dollars that he's
making, but like maybe Sean has climbed that mountaintop, right? Maybe he doesn't live out the entirety
of the five-year contract if they were to win the Super Bowl. Yeah, I think that the optimistic
view that I have in terms of Davis potentially staying and to the points that are being made,
which are all valid points. Like, if you get an opportunity to get an NFL head coaching job,
like take it, that's typically the approach, right? I wonder how much George Payton can
speak into this situation because for a decade, George turned down general manager positions in the
NFL to work under Rick Spielman in Minnesota because he loved his life there. Like just he built a life
in Minneapolis and he, you know, he was, he had a good gig. Like they were building a pretty special
team at certain points in Minnesota. And, you know, I think a lot of times as well, when you start
something like you really want to see it through. I do think there's an element to
the NFL coaching world that is kind of like the Wild West that we see in college football
and every year you know things can change right Davis could do a bad job this year and and you
know I don't expect that but we don't know what the ramifications of that would be but I do think
that there's something to be said for not just being where your feet are at but being rooted for
a time if it if the time calls for it and he has no years of experience with calling plays in the NFL and
getting a shot to do that. I think another example is Joe Brady, right? Joe Brady was supposed to be
the next great head coach candidate. He came up to the NFL out of LSU. Sean Peyton hired him,
no coincidence. And then he's supposed to be this next head coaching candidate and he got a shot to,
I think, call plays and it didn't go well. And so then all of a second, where was it at? Carolina.
Carolina? I think it was Carolina. Yeah. So then he was out of that cycle and now all of a sudden,
well, the shine has worn off Joe Brady.
Nobody wants to hire him again.
And then he waits, you know, he gets his opportunity now with Buffalo, where he was,
you know, I don't think anybody was really saying, hey, he's the Arab.
I mean, maybe they were.
I don't know exactly what Buffalo fans are saying.
But I do think that there's something to the idea of Davis being very selective, like maybe not just saying.
I mean, like I said, he turned, I think we know he turned down the Raiders to be their head coach.
and they have the number one pick.
Like he could have worked with Fernando Mendoza
in a state with no income tax
and a ownership group
and a general manager that's willing to be aggressive.
John SpyTech, we know from Tampa Bay.
They spare no expense to build a Super Bowl caliber roster.
So, I mean, that's the situation that he turned down.
And so what going forward will he accept to leave Denver,
to leave that, you know,
and I think George Payton could be a great resource for him.
But I'll say this too as we talk about Davis Webb because let's just say if Cody,
you know, what Cody was saying, Davis Webb decides to, I want to stay here in Denver.
I love it here.
You know, my family's great.
I've settled in.
The organization, they're doing a great job of ownership.
And in order to keep him, they're going to have to pay him.
They're going to have to take his salary up.
So do we get to a point where Davis Webb is being covered by so many different teams?
I'm to stay here in Denver.
and you're paying him more than you're paying, you know, Vance Joseph.
I don't see a situation like that taking place because if I'm Vance, I'll be pissed.
Well, here's the thing.
I think you could pay both.
I think the Broncos could do something unprecedented in NFL history because of the Walton
Penner family ownership group.
Let's say the opportunities for Vance don't present itself even though that they should.
I think we can all agree that Vance.
There's no reason why Vance shouldn't have gotten a head coaching job last year,
especially with some of these other chuckleheads that got jobs,
including the flur over there.
in Arizona. Vance would have been great in Arizona, but it wouldn't surprise me at the Broncos
gave both Vance and let's say Davis and the offense has success. The same amount of money per
year, both as the highest paid coordinators in the league. I could see it. I'm with you 100%.
I mean, there's no salary cap on coaches. I mean, you're talking about the wealthiest ownership
group in football by more than a country mile, right? I mean, these guys got more money to
it's crazy. It's crazy, right? It's crazy. It's crazy. Right.
And I just, I don't know.
Like it's an interesting conversation.
And like I try to apply it to like myself.
Like obviously I'll never be in that situation to be a head coach or a coach in general in the NFL.
But it's like if you're comfortable where you're at and you're taking care of financially, right?
Like obviously like there's the allure of the competitive nature to want to be a head coach.
But I think Davis Webb has such a long runway being only 31 years old that you can sit pretty here and have Bo Nix and have Sean Payton.
And again, like just to put the tinfoil hat on, like let's say, you know, they win the Super Bowl.
moving into the new stadium.
Like, ultimately, like, would you rather wait a few years to potentially become a Broncos head coach or go to another franchise, right?
That maybe has an interesting track record, like Tennessee.
I know that he's hired Solomon, but there's a lot of conversation about their ownership group and meddling and all that kind of stuff.
So I think it's a fascinating conversation.
I really do think it is.
But ultimately, and Sean, I think it was Luca Evans question yesterday.
You know, five more years of Sean Payton is what the Broncos got, Bella's.
And I do not think that's a bad thing whatsoever.
ever. Let's set a quick break. When we come back, let's dive into what this extension means for the Broncos in particular,
the continuity of retaining Sean Payton and George Payton and maybe a little forecast of what the next few years look like with them continuing to be at the helm.
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Okay, guys.
So good conversation about Davis Webb.
Let's talk about just kind of like in the moment.
moment here. Sean Peyton getting the extension. Like I said, kind of in the open,
like to me it was a surprise, right? Like I less about the extension itself, but I guess when it
came because he still had two years left on his deal. And I know there was a lot of conversation,
you know, in the off season about like is Sean Payton, the Walton-Penner ownership groups kind
of cup of tea, right? There was the speculation that he was their third choice. I know they
interviewed Harbaugh and I think it was Damiko Ryan's was the other candidate at the time that was
highly, you know, connected to the Denver Broncos.
Obviously, we can put those rumors to bed here because the extension essentially confirms
that they are A-OK with Sean Payton continuing to lead this organization.
I mean, kind of your initial thoughts here about the extension as a whole, guys,
and what it means for the Broncos organization in the short term over the next few years.
Yeah, it just means that they got their guy.
They got a guy that obviously, you know, on the football side is dedicated to winning football
games and the turnaround.
I mean, we've seen the tangible results since Sean has.
come over. And of course, there's been moments where it hasn't been pretty. That's the game of
football. Obviously, they got off to a rough start in his first year. They climbed their way out
of it, showcasing resiliency, saying, okay, hey, we have to change everything that we're doing.
And then the next year, you get to 10 wins. Then the next year, you get to 14 wins. Like,
there is tangible proof right there that says, hey, the way that Sean's doing it is working.
And he and the partnership between he and George Payton certainly aligned at the hip. They've proven
to be a very dynamic duo together. And now that you got these guys tied at the hip through 2030 together,
Bo Nix, you have a franchise quarterback in place here.
Well, now that means that the Broncos are going to be relevant at least through 2030 here.
This is going to be a tandem.
It's going to do whatever they can to make sure that this Broncos team is winning football games,
competing for Super Bowls.
It's maintaining the standard that Pat Bowlin initially set as this team.
The Broncos and Walton Penner family ownership group, they've restored that,
which I think that's the biggest thing.
So to me, I wasn't surprised an extension to happen.
I mean, I think we all kind of knew all along that, hey,
like both of these guys are going to be taking care of.
We knew that George was on the last year of his deal.
So I think there's a little more pressing urgency to get his done.
I just think Sean having an extra year on his deal allowed them the flexibility to say,
hey, let's take care of George and Sean's next.
And then we've seen that play out.
So I mean, I'm not, I'm not surprised at all.
And look, Broncos country should be happy.
Your team is about to be relevant.
As long as these guys are here as part of the Denver Broncos.
I'm excited.
Yeah, I think you put a financial amount, whatever that is.
I kind of wish we could know, you know, the coaching realm what was going on in that area.
But you put a financial amount on that success that they've had and the success that you believe
that they're going to have, right? You say, hey, what Sean talked about it earlier this off
season. He felt that George Payton's contract was overdue, right? So if that's the case,
then maybe this was Sean's perfect timing is to have two years left on the deal and to get the
deal done at that point in time. So I don't mind it at all. I think it proves that the
Broncos from the top down, believe that they're in a Super Bowl window of time, that there's
urgency, obviously, now to capitalize on the timing, but that there's also patience to believe
that this is not just a blip on the radar or this wasn't just a flash in the pan or anything
like that.
The ownership truly believes that the brain trust that they have in place can set this team up
to win now and into the future, and you put money behind that.
And you also reward what you want repeated, right?
You improved your win totals all three years of Sean Payton's head coaching tenure so far.
So what do you do?
You reward that because you want that improvement to be repeated.
And they know that they can build off that.
This ownership group said that in the statement they released, they want to build on that success.
Does that mean winning 15 games this year?
16 games this year?
No, it means getting further in the playoffs.
So that's what I think that they're investing in with both Sean and George is they're impressive.
That was their word that they used, the impressive turnaround.
the ownership itself has been impressed by the guy they hired to turn around the culture.
I think you reward what you want repeated.
It's all about having a successful formula.
I had a chance to see it when I coached in San Francisco.
I mean, both John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan came in, you know, tied to one another.
And the team started doing well after not performing well in my first couple of years there.
And then all of a sudden, they got six-year deals, right?
an idea is stability. That's what you want. And it goes back to what brings about success in the NFL.
I say it's a five-pillar approach. It starts with having quality ownership, having a great GM, a head coach that the GM and the head coach are on the same page, then having a quarterback.
And then the most important part, the fifth one is roster development. The Broncos have done all.
of those things and they did it in dire situations with Russell Wilson money being on the books.
And it's like, how do you do that?
Right?
You're still paying a guy and an exorbitant amount of money and he's playing for someone else,
but you still have to find a way to take the money and reserves that you have and build a
quality team.
And the ownership is saying, listen, we walked into a tight situation, not in understanding
anything about football, and we understand where we were with the money situation.
But we got it done.
Just imagine if we straighten out the books,
we get a quarterback that we believe in,
and we start to build out the roster.
I mean, the Broncos have surpassed any thoughts of ideas
of what anyone thought they were capable of doing under Sean,
under George, under the penners,
and hell, along with Bo Nix.
So the idea is that to be successful,
you don't break things up.
You tweak things here, here and there, right?
I mean, I have kids.
So, you know, Fix It Felix was one of those kids or one of those guys in a cartoon that I saw all the time.
That's exactly what you're doing with the Broncos.
It's Fixit Felix.
We just tweak here and there, add a little oil and grease here.
And then now the team is going to be off and running.
And what this means is for the next couple of years, this team should be competitive.
And I don't know which one of you guys said it, but it goes back to taking this organization back to what it was,
under Pat Bowlin. There was a certain culture, right? And I think it's Cody,
Neelow was saying it was Cody, but there was a certain culture that was established.
It hadn't been that way for a while, even when John Elway was here, right? You had the
Peyton Manning era and then it just died off. All of that now comes back. So there's a sense of
hope for the Denver Broncos. And I ask you guys, there's 32 organizations, right? Which
organizations do you think has had the most turnover at the head coach and GM positions?
Which teams do you think?
Cleveland.
Jet.
Oh, gosh.
Cleveland is one.
There's another one.
Not the Jets?
Nope.
It'd be the Raiders.
Right?
Those two teams have had the most turnover.
Imagine those two fan bases, right?
Being one of those member of those fan bases.
But you know what?
We're spoiled.
We got the luxury.
of living here and rooting 14 that has historically had great culture.
I think it's also important to say that the twilight years are kind of the trust,
the family trust years of the Bolin situation.
Like that's the outlier as opposed to the standard, right?
Like, and obviously, like it's a very tumultuous time.
Like, like, you know, the Bolin kids are not Pat Bolin himself.
And, you know, that was essentially a decade of just kind of a little bit of turmoil and
questioning and all that kind of stuff.
but ultimately the Broncos organization ends up in the hands of the Walton-Penner ownership group.
And just to bring it back to Sean for a minute, I'm not sure if there's a coach out there
that could have navigated the Russell Wilson situation better.
Like, I mean, you talk about if you bring in a rookie head coach, like let's say it was Damiko Rai.
It's like maybe Harbaugh could have done a decent job with it.
But I mean, like, look, hindsight is always 2020.
And Sean's ultimately the guy that ended up, you know, doing that job.
But like, I think you're going to be hard pressed to find a coach that, you know,
that frankly could have done a better job.
I mean, they almost made the playoffs with Russell Wilson in one of those years as well.
And ultimately to take that dead cap hit.
And I think that speaks to the relationship that Sean and George have and the trust they have at each other.
And kind of on that point, too, like, look, I'm not breaking any news here.
Like, Sean and George have different personalities, right?
And sometimes opposites attract and can work well together because maybe what Sean does, you know,
maybe not as good, George does better and all that kind of stuff ultimately.
Like, obviously they have a very good working relationship.
but I'm pretty sure they have different perspectives on how to build a football team,
how to run a football organization.
And you put two great minds together.
And that's how you get this Broncos squad that we have right now.
You know, 14 wins, AFC championship game, all that kind of stuff too.
So look, that 10 year or so period of turmoil for the Broncos is ultimately yield what is likely to be a decade of prosperity with Sean Payton, George Payton, and Bo Nix at the help.
And it's like the great Nicholas Cage says in.
National Treasure, right?
He quotes, I think it's, I can't remember who he's quoting,
but he's like, I didn't fail a thousand times to invent the light ball,
but I found a thousand ways how not to do it.
You know, it's like when you're going through that decade,
it's like you have to learn from those mistakes.
And as an organization, that's hard to do when the right people aren't in place.
So you have the ownership trust and kind of that battle that was ongoing at the top,
that bled down into the back end of John Elway's career as General
manager of the team that bled down into the front end of George Payton's time as general
manager of the team to the point at which I almost thought that like George was basically
taking the big swings that he did in that 2022 off season as a way to sort of like entice the next
potential owners like do you want to purchase a franchise that has no quarterback you want to purchase
a franchise that you know doesn't have anything to really like when they unveiled their
jerseys in 2024 there's nobody to model them like they had offensive linemen modeling like and it was
you know it was embarrassing to be in that point of not having not that you don't want to have good
offensive linemen but you get what i'm saying there's no stars on the team there's no star power
there's nobody that's putting butts in the seats like russell wilson was a total flop more people
talking about his high knees and the fact that he was injured that season and you know patrick star
calling him out for stinking on the field right i mean that's
what everyone's talking about. The Broncos became a laughing stock and that was the result of
the top down, trickle down effect of people in high places not caring about the culture that
Pat Bowlin established and caring more about how much money am I going to have when this is all done.
How much money am I going to be getting when this is all done? Joe Ellis, in my opinion,
didn't care about the Broncos at the end. I mean, they could have had Kyle Shanahan in 2017.
And he said no because of his beef with the with the Shanahan family.
So that's bull crap.
Like we if you care about the fans,
if you care about the product on the field,
you do what's necessary.
That's why those top three coaches that you mentioned that that's funny,
that they were the finalists kind of for this job in Denver.
Sean Payton, Jim Harbaugh,
Beko Ryan.
Because what does that show?
That shows that this ownership group did its research to find out who are the
freaking three best candidates that will absolutely,
out of the park because all three of those guys are top head coaches right now in the NFL.
And that was who was really, that's, that's who it was down to for the Denver Broncos.
Also, from my understanding, I was going to say, like, when they were doing this head coaching
search, it wasn't just them flying by the seat of their pants.
They obviously had people who have been in the football role.
They consulted.
And I'm pretty sure they also consulted with Peyton Manning, if I'm not mistaken, on this whole
process as well.
And so it's like, hey, we know we know at the.
the time, but we don't know everything. So we're going to bring in people that can help us
make the best informed decision. And ultimately, it boiled down to Sean Payton, Harbaugh, and
Domingo Rines. And I still do wonder to this day, like, had Sean Payton not come to Denver,
would they still be in the same position that they're in right now? I don't know. I think you
can make arguments for, arguments against, but it's, it's unknown. And thankfully, we don't have
to sit here and ask that question because we could easily have that Marvel or that Disney,
what if series come to fruition here in the football world on that.
side of things. I don't think Harbaugh or D'Amico Ryans is drafting Bo Nix.
Like, Sean Payton was the steward of that ship of wanting to draft Bo Nix and playing
at Koi and Jay Glazer and, you know, throwing them off the Viking scent and all that kind
of stuff that came up throughout the draft process. And look, hindsight's always 2020.
And I think, you know, one final point just on the head coaching search, like, I think the
Broncos would be in decent shape with if it was D'Amico Ryans or John Harbaugh. I mean, those three
coaches, I believe I'll crack the top five of our top five teams in the AFC list that we did.
I want to say last week or maybe two weeks ago, right?
So like, I think they'd be in fine shape, but ultimately the Broncos are in the position that
they're in largely because of the belief in Bo Nix that Sean Payton has and the ability to come in here
and kind of flip this organization around essentially overnight.
So we'll see how the next five years kind of play out here for Sean Payton.
And I think it's all good news, right?
I know he's not everybody's, you know, maybe not the most likable guy, according to some
people, but he's done an excellent job when it comes to turning this organization around and just
getting them back to the glory days as they were with Peyton Manning and John Elway and the stewardship
of Pat Bowlin. So I think the extension obviously confirms that it was the right hire and it also
just confirms that the Broncos have some of the best owners in football right now. All right,
let's hit a quick break when we come back. Cody, you were at OTAs yesterday. Nick,
I believe you were there as well. We'll kind of unpack what you guys learned at OTAs. I know
Davis Webb met with the media.
A couple of players met with the media as well.
So a little current Broncos conversation as it pertains to what we learned at OTAs this week.
All that more when we come back right here on your locked on Bronco squad show.
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Okay, OTAs, gentlemen, I'll give you, Cody,
wherever you want to start.
I mean, you were there in the flesh.
We could start with Davis Webb.
We could start.
I saw Zach Allen talked.
Obviously, we know Sean and Vance Joseph also talked.
What was kind of your big takeaway from OTAs this week?
Yeah, just once again, another crisp practice.
We always talk about like the no pads.
That's always has to be kind of factored into the equation here.
But just, I would say a good practice that featured one seven on seven period,
two team periods and then one and move the ball team period at the end of practice.
Sam Ellinger continued his hot streak.
You know, obviously on the day, wasn't afraid to throw the ball downfield to various guys,
including Dane Key, Devin Key's brother stepping up and make plays.
Highly competitive, but really the stage is kind of set for next week's mandatory minicamp
with Bow Nix, set to take the field and do something at least on a limited capacity,
which is obviously a great sign.
Several players were not spotted.
J.K. Dobbins was hosting a kids camp.
in New Mexico on behalf of the Broncos and his agency.
And then Jonah Coleman was graduating from the University of Washington
and Brandon Jones missed because he just had a baby with his wife.
And so some good reasons.
But, you know, aside from that, good vibes of practice.
I know Ferg was there watching as well.
Yeah, for me, I'm going to lean on my side of the ball,
which is defense because I think that's the best side of any football team is the defense.
But we saw a couple of young guys actually.
of standing up. Chris Abrams drains in my, I'm not mistaken, he had an interception. And when you look
at Dondrey Tillman, I mean, showing a lot of speed. I know the guys don't have on pads,
but, you know, you want to see guys really showing a level of quickness, being around a corner.
Obviously, you can't impact the quarterback because that guy is on your team. But Dondry Tillman got
around the edge a couple of times. And I said to myself, hmm, if this was a live game, that quarterback
was be missing action.
Yes.
So Tilo Onietam, I mean, he had a penetration on the run play as well.
So it was great to see some of these young guys actually step up to really showcase their ability
because like Cody said, come next week, that's kind of the last step before you get
the training camp.
That's the last opportunity to really show the coaches what you can do.
So when they start to put the depth chart together, even though it's in pencil, they can pencil you
in in the very competitive spot.
practice was competitive.
The guys were engaged. It was a lot of cheering.
The competition was there, you know, allowing the offense and the defense to go at it.
And for the first time, I saw Sean Payton just kind of playing, you know, backwards.
And what I mean by that is just he just stayed away.
He allowed Davis Webb to orchestrate the offense with a little walkie-talkie headset.
And we hadn't seen that around here in a while.
So that was a good sign for me to see that Sean is actually giving.
the reins to Davis Webb and allowing him to run the show.
Did you see that one play?
There was a completion to Jalen Waddle, but Davis Webb was excited.
Like they scheme something up for Waddle and he was fist popping.
The offense was hooting and holl and I was like, okay, I wish we could go back and
have access to like the practice footage to see, okay, hey, they got the defense in this
one look.
They scheme the Waddle open on this one play and it worked.
So it's like that stuff has me giddy and excited because it's like,
right. Like what was the rhyme and the reason? What did they see? How did they plan this? What was the
installed period like for them? So that also I think should have me a little more excited.
And Broncos fans excited about like, okay, Davis Webb, he's got some sprinkles here and there.
And he did say to us after practice, this is a Sean Payton coach team. This is a Sean
Peyton offensive philosophy. We're going to have some tweaks here and there. But the idea is
for the Broncos to play clean, to play fast and to obviously have the supporting cast that they
have around Bow Nix and to utilize the strengths of, you know, their team. And it seems like the
focus really is, I would say somewhere along lines of, hey, we went through and we did a study
at things that didn't work well for us. It seems like those things probably won't be in the
mix as much this year. And they're going to focus on what has worked, what is our identity.
And it seems like the focus is going to be on that, which I'm excited. So part of me is wondering,
do they take the outside's own scheme out because that did not work for them last season.
So we'll see where things are at. Cody, I'll say this really quickly. I know the play that
you're talking about. And the defensive player and coach,
in me can help but think I could be wrong. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am because
the offense and the defense, they get the script and practice. And I've seen it done before,
even with Mike Shanahan, you know what the defense is going to be in from a country standpoint.
And you say, you know what, let's stress them out a little bit and put a player in a particular
position and showcase him. But that's the way I feel is though that particular play worked out
for Jalen Wado because we were standing out there watching. They wanted to showcase. They
wanted to show against the Broncos defense, here's what Wado is capable of doing, but to give
somewhat of an example of what Davis Webb could potentially do with Jalen Waddle as a weapon.
Amen.
I can't wait, dude. I can't wait. I know. I see. I know he's compared him there, sir.
But sorry, yeah, I'm really excited for the Jalen Waddle. Obviously, Davis kind of poured gasoline on
that fire after practice when he was talking about, you know, he was in Buffalo when in Josh Allen's
third NFL season.
They traded for Stefan Diggs.
They made that blockbuster with the Vikings, and it helped take Josh Allen to the next
level.
So I can't help but wonder, you know, whatever Davis learned from that experience,
being around that and seeing like four straight years of the Pro Bowl for Stefan Diggs.
I know he wasn't there for all of them, but you know what I mean?
I mean, it, 1100 years or 1100 yards every year for four straight years and
eight touchdowns at a minimum for four straight years from Stefan Diggs.
just an absolute target machine.
And just like Jalen Waddle, interestingly enough,
Stefan Diggs had never made a Pro Bowl prior to coming to Buffalo.
So that was the move that really took Josh Allen from being like,
okay, yeah, this guy is interesting.
We're seeing much better things from him in the NFL than we did at Wyoming,
but there's still another level that he can get to.
Stefan Diggs was the player who took him to that next level.
And I know Josh did his part,
but having Diggs, having that reliability at the,
the receiver position unlocked something in Josh Allen to be able to play on a different plane
from other quarterbacks.
And that's what I believe Jalen Waddle can do for the Denver Broncos.
And we know they like to feature different guys.
They like to spread the ball around to different guys.
But Davis Webb can sit there and say, I've seen what can happen when, you know, the
guy like Diggs comes in and he just upgrades Josh Allen.
So like we're going to do that same thing for Bo Nix by giving him this player.
that we can put him in any position,
we can put him in any situation,
and we can dictate what defenses now do.
This is why I love that whole discussion that we were,
you know,
the last squad show,
we've tabled it for the time being,
but that whole discussion about one score games
and the Broncos doing all the research of how, you know,
35% or whatever it was,
teams were better than next year or were the same.
I just think there's so many different ways the Broncos can be better
that I'm not thinking in terms of,
are they going to flip those one score games into losses?
I'm thinking how many of those one score games are not going to become blowout victories?
It's the hope.
You got to find a way to do it.
And I think the number one formula for that is kind of what Davis talked about yesterday.
He said, you know, leaning on the run game, we have a really good defense.
We need to reward them.
We need to take care of that.
Like, we need to also control time of possession.
It's those things right there, getting the offense to play more efficiently,
not leading the NFL in three and outs, not leading the NFL in passing attempts because they can't run the ball.
But it's having balance in those areas that are.
are, I think, ultimately can, Sarah, unlock those things that you just mentioned.
Cody, I thought the idea was when the team is throwing the ball a lot in passing
attempts, that meant that they had a very formidable passing attack.
Are you telling me they're doing it because they can't run the ball?
I mean, that's been the theme for a couple of years now, Ferg, you know, narratives.
Narratives out there.
I'm glad you get it.
I'm glad you get also. I will say this to what you guys were also talking about in terms of just like what Jalen does as well.
I also do think that has opened up things for Evan Ingram, who once again saw more opportunities catching the ball in yesterday's practice.
And even Marvin Mims, like the way they use Marvin a little bit yesterday and Evan, it's like, hey, there's ways that they're going to get these guys involved.
Evan probably more than anybody else, but Marvin, a weapon.
There was one formation that I can't talk about because we're not allowed to disclose the information.
But let's just say that, like, if they use this in a game, if you're a defense, good luck trying to figure that out.
I'll tell you guys off the air here.
Unfortunately, I can't save it for Broncos country.
But I'll tell Sarah and Nilo and Fergillow and Ferg even though he was there, he saw it.
But we'll have to say that for off the air, unfortunately.
I'll tell you this really quick about Marvin Mims.
Like when you meet Marvin as though you've met him, Cody, he's a down-to-earth guy.
He's seen as though he's grounded and he doesn't have a mean street.
Let me tell you, big misconception.
There's a mean streak in Marvin Mims that most people don't know about.
And I got a chance to see it personally early this week at practice.
I'm loving it.
Love to see that.
Real quick before we hit our final break, I saw the 49ers also canceled mini-camp.
I think that came out yesterday.
So I believe it's the 49ers and the Rams that are doing that.
I don't think the Broncos are going to do that just because like Bo NIC's coming off the injury.
Like I know it's more general NFL.
Like, why do you think they're doing that?
They're trying to get the Cabo, man.
Yeah, you know.
That's valuable time.
You know what?
They're trying to get the Cabo.
With the CBA, though, like, I mean, you have so, like, it's not like two at a,
it's, like, all that stuff is gone.
You would think you take the maximum opportunity to get ready for the season.
I would.
Well, the 49ers have some new play, like play calling guys on defense.
They have some new personnel guys.
The Rams, I think, are probably in a good spot.
They're okay.
But once again,
it's like I don't think these practices hurt though like that's the thing like I I think it can be
useful I think it's more helpful than it is harmful you know I know I understand like some guys like
we don't want to do too much because the last thing we want to do before trending camp is have a guy
I understand all of that I understand the premise of it but these practices just going through like
what the Broncos are doing right now to give people kind of a peek behind the curtain offensively
defensively they're in installation phase one of like small elements of their offense and defense and
special teams, they're going through a phase one installation period here.
That stuff is always valuable. The more reps you can get, the more you can master certain
things. And that, I think, gives you an advantage ultimately, like, to get off to a hot
start. Now, of course, like when the season comes around, you're getting a different defensive
look. You're going to have to counteract, like, what you want to run versus what they're doing
and kind of adjust on the fly. But I think these are valuable here for minicamp.
And I understand everyone likes field day, this and that. But you know what? You get five,
six weeks off after this. Go to Cabo, have as many field
days on the beach as you want, but not right now.
It's football time.
Yeah.
How do you feel about that?
Herg as a former player, are you, are you one, two, three, Cabo or are you,
oh, let's get the dang working?
Well, I feel a little different because during my time of the different Broncos,
they kept us here for most of, of the offseason.
And the reason they did it is because of, one, the altitude, two,
ensuring that guys don't get in trouble.
but the conditioning part was a major part of it
because why spent all this time here
getting yourself acclimated and prepared for the season
to the altitude, then go down to sea level and below sea level
and lose every single thing that you work for
because once again, other players from other teams,
I mean, they were on their vacation.
We were still doing off-season workouts
and they kind of spreaded them out
just to make sure that we were at,
actually here. And we always had 100 participation. It was only one year where we didn't. And that was
because John Lynch decided that he wanted to kind of train a little different back in San Diego.
And hell, he was John Lynch. He had the resume. So Mike Shanningance said to hell with it. But that was
one of the reasons. And, you know, now they don't do that anymore. Some of the rules have changed so much
that I feel as though it's made the game a little soft. That's just me. I'm not calling the player soft.
but I'm just saying some of the changes have kind of made the game soft in a little way.
But we'll see how players handle this.
And that's the biggest thing, man, when you let players go in the offseason and they're at their own demise,
hey, listen, a lot of things can happen.
Players get in a lot of trouble.
And we've seen that over the years.
But that was one of the reasons they kept us here in town.
That's one thing I heard from Mike Shanahan is he just, he was always stressed or just worried
about like idle time right what do they say what's the saying like idle time is the devil's
playground i don't like that devil's playground my grandmother something like that yeah and it's true
wrong absolutely not yeah how many players that we've seen get in trouble during the offseason
happens a lot you know it's true uh all right let's hit our final break when we come back we'll put a bow
on the show a couple of news and notes in the world of denver broncos football when we come
back right here on your lockdown Broncos squad show all right we'll come on back into the program
winding down here on your lockdown Broncos squad show appreciate each and every one of you that
tune in to this show and the standard lockdown Broncos podcast you guys are the absolute best in
broncos country and let's talk about this fellas obviously a disappointing story that we learned
about here on Friday morning a development and I do want to preface this is still very much a
developing story. But we touched on it briefly last week regarding the situation involving
Broncos linebacker Jonathan Cooper, a new wrinkle in the story as we found out that Coop was once
again arrested here last night. So that would be Thursday. So that's two arrests for Jonathan Cooper.
I know he was, you know, said to meet with a judge on Friday morning. And this is stemming from a
violation of his agreement last week with the situation. Again, very very, very, very.
very, very raw developing story.
You don't have all the details or all the facts here quite yet,
but we do know that Jonathan Cooper was arrested again this week.
That is two arrests in two weeks.
And that's kind of where we're at here, fellas.
Yeah, and the Broncos, once again,
I mean, they obviously released a statement,
official statement saying they're disappointed to hear in that matter,
especially after Sean Payton even said that they just had a long,
extensive talk with Coop about the situation.
And we're not going to dive into the personal matters of that.
If you want to find it, obviously you could find it out on,
you know, Denver Post,
mile high sports.com. We have factual reporting on all that stuff there. But I think from the
football side of things, I think we need to get into the conversation now of that, okay, with
the circumstances with what has happened and the NFL obviously investigated and this as
falls under the league's personal conduct policy, let's focus on the football side here for the
Bronco. And I think very much so. We need to look at what the Broncos will look like.
Under the premise, let's say Cooper is not on this football team. And I think it goes to show now
the guys like Jonah Ellis, staying at outside linebacker, which,
that was obviously known before any of these incidents with Cooper have taken place.
That was going to be his home.
Sean Payton said the emergence of Q Robinson and Dandre Tillman,
who both guys we saw emerge and have some flashes in yesterday's practice,
obviously for the team.
And at this point, like from the football standpoint, Denver,
this is a reason like this, if he's not on this football team,
which was always a possibility is the time we're sitting down and recording this,
there is a chance that those guys get those opportunities to play.
And I think that's going to be the Broncos focus right now.
And I think that's exciting for those young players to get more opportunities with or without Jonathan Cooper on the roster or on the team or on the field.
I mean, you want to see those young guys play.
You want to see the guys that you've drafted in recent years.
Jonah Ellis, who's shown so much all rookie team in 2024.
You want to see Q Robinson, get more time on task.
Dondray Tillman, pretty much one of the more underrated players on the team at this point, I would say.
And even with all of that, my personal thought on this is that the Broncos,
do need to figure out and put the brain trust together,
who's now got extensions, Sean and George,
they need to figure out who they need to bring in
because you lose John Franklin Myers,
okay, you can convince me that Savion Jones,
Niyomo Wazerike, and now Tyler Oneedem are part of the plan,
but you're still losing John Franklin Myers.
And now, if you're talking about Jonathan Cooper not being on the team,
that's a total of 15 and a half sacks from last year's 68,
that is no longer on the team, plus the amount of snaps that those guys played.
I think the Broncos need a veteran fallback option.
I know that the fan base is obviously many in the fan base are clamoring for Vaughn.
At this point, I don't really even care who it is.
I think it has to be somebody who's established, who has played,
who can help this team win a Super Bowl,
because the reality is, is that Jonathan Cooper was in this team's plans for this year
to play a starting role and to be a leader on this team.
And now you've lost him, even if you planned on letting John Franklin Myers go,
that's two guys from your best unit on the team,
the defensive front that you now have to replace.
And I think there's merit to the idea of replacing in-house.
But I think if you go into the season saying,
hey, we're going to, we're going to just rely on the young guys to fill these gaps.
That to me is not an acceptable way of building out a roster that's competing for a Super Bowl.
I feel like they need to bring somebody in, whether it's Kim Jordan, Von Miller, Joey Bosa.
I don't care who it is.
I think it has to be somebody.
Yeah, you definitely do.
And this puts the House of Cards in jeopardy.
Because what the Broncos are banking on is though they had depth.
And that's the one thing that makes them one of the better teams in NFL that they draft and develop.
And they have a bunch of young guys.
But here's what I do know.
I know it's great when a guy is in reserve.
He comes in.
We see flashes of brilliance.
But when that guy sometimes is thrown into a situation where now he becomes a starter,
there's an immense amount of pressure on it.
And sometimes they can't live up to that pressure.
But the Broncos know that they have one guy who's shown a lot of versatility.
And that's Jonah Ellis.
So a lot of this hangs in the balance with Jonah Ellis.
And if you are George Payton and Sean Payton, you say,
listen, it would be, it would hurt us to move away from Jonathan Cooper because, you know,
from what they've seen, he's a good player, he's a decent, you know, man.
I'll say that.
But these transgressions have now put him in the organization in the crosshairs and they've
established a certain culture that they're trying to move forward.
They're not trying to move backwards.
And I don't know what's going to happen.
I'm not saying that the team is going to release him.
But if that was a thought, the next thing is, okay, well, the next man,
mentality. Let's put Jonah Ellis in that spot because here's what we know.
No matter whether you're the Denver Broncos or anyone else, you need book-in pass rushes.
And Jonah Ellis has shown so much so versatility, hell, they wanted to move them the linebacker, right?
And then they moved him back to his natural position.
But this is going to put a lot of stress and strain on the roster.
But I'm sure the scouts and George Payton, they're right now looking at their boards.
Who can we bring in? Which other teams around the NFL?
They're heavy at the particular edge of usher position and trying to see, well, do we need to make a trade?
Is there a guy on the street that we can sign to bring in?
And Sarah, you said a lot of fans have been rooting for Vaughn Miller.
I don't think that that is somewhat of an answer right now.
It is nostalgic.
Fans love it.
But now you're talking about production.
Where this team is trying to go.
You need guys to move the team forward.
And if you want to bring in Vaughn later, you can to help with.
the nostalgia, but right now you need to bring in a guy that can add depth and a guy who can
actually be an instant impact right away. Yeah, and again, we have to know, like, it's a developing
story. We don't know what's going to happen with the situation. And this is like real life stuff,
right? Like, this is football aside, like, we have to see how the situation ultimately play out.
So we'll keep you guys updated here on the show. But I think you guys are spot on about from the
football side of things, right? Like, you're going to have some of these young cats, like maybe you
bring in a Cam Jordan or somewhat of that kind of pedigree to kind of shore up
maybe a hole that might be needing to be filled, depending on how the situation
ultimately plays out. But yeah, I mean, look, it's unfortunate and not the kind of news
you want to have to talk about, but that's kind of where we're at. And look, we'll see what
happens with the X's and O's. But the Broncos, you would think guys will have, at this point,
given that this is now the second time he's gone, been arrested, you would think even after
the first time there's some thought of contingency plan from the Broncos organization about
football related activities.
So ultimately we'll see how it shakes out.
But I would think the Broncos will try to put themselves in as good of a position as possible
from an X and O's perspective.
Anilo,
regardless of how it plays out.
Can I add one more thing?
You just touched upon it.
See, this goes far beyond the realm of football.
And here's what I know as a former player.
See, there are players who get into situations,
whether they put themselves in it themselves by making poor decisions or someone else.
My biggest thing is I'm thinking about Cooper from.
a mental standpoint.
You had all,
you accomplished all these things.
I mean, you can from Ohio State.
You had the heart issue.
You were drafted in the seventh round.
Then all of a sudden you played well.
Then you made a substantial amount of money.
Now, this is a detriment on your career
from the personal standpoint and a professional standpoint.
So I'm wondering about him from a human standpoint.
If the Broncos were to move away from him,
and I know how this happens,
you're away from your team,
you're dealing with legal issues, now you become essentially toxic, right?
No one wants to touch you.
Guys who are friends with you, they need to stay away from you because their wives are telling
them, listen, if anyone is involved or alleged to be involved in any domestic violence,
I don't want you to be associated with it because of your brand.
So now you off on your own.
You know how many things can happen as you start to deal with this situation and try to process
it mentally.
So I'm worried about him from that standpoint.
If the Broncos were to move away from him that people don't detach themselves from him,
they need to go to him because he's going to need to lean on them more now.
Yeah.
I mean, again, it's a very complex situation.
And I know he was at the facility, like, between the first situation and the second situation.
And again, like, we don't want to speculate or do anything like that necessarily.
But it's just a developing story.
I mean, that's really all we could say about the future of Jonathan Cooper with the Denver Broncos.
we'll ultimately see how it impacts them on the field.
And we'll kind of go from there.
So, again, we'll keep you guys updated here on the Lockdown Broncos Squad Show.
Cody and Sarah will keep you updated on their regular podcast as well.
But ultimately, we'll see how that situation shakes out.
Before we get out of here, fellas, any closing thoughts?
Sean Payton, Davis, Webb, Vance Joseph, you're back at OTAs next week, correct, Cody?
Well, not OTAs.
It's a mandatory mini-calf.
We get three straight days.
of practice. So maybe the squad show schedule will be a little different next week, too,
because we will be a Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday for practice, three straight days.
It's going to be a lot of excitement about it because ultimately that's going to set the stage for
training camp. So I'm just looking forward to getting back out there next week as well.
Yeah, it'll be fun. It'll be fun. Football's on the mind. We're in the dead period.
I'll be watching my World Cup. You know, I'll be keeping tabs on my baseball,
but I'm definitely itching for getting closer and closer to the start of football season.
So good stuff today, as always, gentlemen, for everyone on YouTube.
I appreciate you guys.
Make sure to hit that like button and subscribe button on your way out the door.
As Cody said with minicamp next week,
we might have to adjust the schedule a little bit,
but we'll be back as soon as we can here on the lockdown Broncos squad show,
talking all things, Denver Broncos.
So appreciate you guys.
Enjoy your weekend.
It's absolutely gorgeous here in the Mile High City.
Summer is here.
Go touch some grass.
Go to Cabo if you can.
And don't worry.
football is on the horizon. So for Cody Rourke, for Sarah Bedinger, Nick Ferguson, I am
Anilo Piro. Thank you guys so, so much for tuning in and we'll talk to you guys next week.
Have a good weekend, y'all. Peace.
