Locked On Broncos - Daily Podcast On The Denver Broncos - BRONCOS SQUAD SHOW: What Does Marvin Mims' Agent Change Mean for His Future With the Broncos?

Episode Date: June 9, 2026

Marvin Mims’ future with the Denver Broncos became a bit more intriguing with the news that he switched agents. Mims is now represented by Athletes First, an agency known for repressing high-profile players across the NFL. What does this move mean for the future of Mims with the Denver Broncos? Does it have any impact at all? Plus, Garett Bolles says Jaylen Waddle is the missing piece for the Denver Broncos. Join Aniello Piro, Cody Roark, Sayre Bedinger and Nick Ferguson as the break down all the news and notes in the world of Broncos football on today’s Locked On Broncos Squad Show. Everydayer Club If you never miss an episode, it’s time to make it official. Join the Locked On Everydayer Club and get ad-free audio, access to our members-only Discord, and more — all built for our most loyal fans. Click here to learn more and join your team’s community: https://lockedonpodcasts.com/everydayerclub Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! FanDuel Today's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. From the opening whistle to the final kick, Let There Be Goals on FanDuel. Visit https://FANDUEL.COM to get started now. Square If you’re starting a business, or running one that deserves better tools, Square helps you sell, manage, and grow without slowing down. Right now, you can get up to $200 off Square hardware at https://square.com/go/LockedOnNFL. Indeed Listeners of this show get a $75 Sponsored Job Credit to help give your job the premium placement it deserves at http://Indeed.com/podcast. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

I'm an I'm Nilo Piro, and OTA's role on this week, and Garrett Bulls had plenty to say about Jalen Waddell. Cody Rourke, a mile high sports here. Marvin Mims changing agents is a great sign for his ability to maybe stay in the mile high city. Sarah Bedinger, predominantly orange, and the Broncos, they won a lot of one-score games last year, but instead of wondering if they're going to flip those one-score games into losses, I'm wondering how much more can they win by? I'm Nick Ferguson, and Marvin Mims has not been used as much.

much as he should over the past three years. And guess what? He is armed and ready for fight. All right. Let's break it all down on today's Lockdown Broncos Squad show. Let's get into a gentleman. From the South stands, it's the Broncos squad. Everything dead for Broncos every week. Covering all the big hits and game changing plays from the Mile High City. The way only the Lockdown podcast network can. Gear up and squad up. The Broncos squad show starts now. It is your Lockedon Broncos squad show right here on your Lockdown Broncos YouTube channel and audio feed. Hope everyone is doing well out there in and around Broncos country on this Tuesday, June the 9th.

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As we mentioned, OTAs will continue this week. We've got an update on Marvin Mims and a new agent. Garrett Bowles had high praise as well for Jalen Waddle. And I thought Sean Peyton gave one of his most fascinating and inciting answers to a question this offseason. We'll break that down on the show today. But Cody, what's good, brother? How we live in? Okay, OTAs week two, it rolls on.

I'm excited about it. You know, like I said, it's hard to gauge really how to measure some of these things because we see one practice without seeing the previous two. We'll see one practice this week without seeing the previous two. So I wonder if we'll see a little bit of the same as what we saw last week or if we'll see new faces emerge. But next week, mandatory mini camp is going to be fun. So we've got three straight days of full on access to practice. So it's going to be fun. I'm excited.

So for the listener, like what did you see at OTAs last week? Was it just like individual drills, like kind of give the, the, listener and the viewer are the little behind the scenes. No, I mean, you see individual drills, you see stretch, you see seven on seven. You see all the team drills. Like, we get access to practice in its full entirety, but, you know, when we get one day instead of three days that they're actually on the field. So next week, we actually get all three days that they will be on the field.

And I already know there's some people out there like, they're going to cancel mandatory minicamp because Kyle's sharing the hand of the 49ers. I think the 40-9 should be figuring out the electromagnetic station next door. You know, field day canceling mandatory minicamp. I think there's a time and a place and that's not going to be in the Mile High City ever, which I agree with. Yeah, I would expect.

Bill Day, Ferd. Come on, man. Well, listen, I know I worked at, in San Francisco. And I have to say, I don't know anything about electric magnetic stuff contributing to injuries. We didn't have a lot of injuries. Now, we did have one before, a couple days before we played in Minnesota.

and that was Jet McKinnon. So I don't want to talk about that because I don't have a scientific degree to go into it. But what I will say, Cody, though, it all depends on who you are as a head coach and how you feel that the off-season conditioning program is going and how well your guys are connecting with the offense. And with Kyle, a lot of those guys have been in that offense

for a while. You've got a couple of new faces. But with the Denver Broncos, one, remember, they started late. And Davis Webb is trying to implement his version of this offense, and we still don't know what that looks like. Every day at practice or at times when we get a chance to go, for me, I'm trying to see, okay, well, where's the change, where are the nuances, what is this defense going to do as far as looking different?

And I have to think with the mindset, they're not really going to show us exactly in practice, right? They're going to show us what they want to show us because those plays and the practices are scripted. So we're not going to truly find out until we get to week one of preseason. Can I throw on my tinfoil hat really quickly? Please do. Go ahead.

Because the 49ers canceled their mandatory minicamp, right? And it was not a day or two after that that Brandon Ayuk posted on his Instagram page, pictures of him wearing a Washington commander's hat. So I can't help but wonder if that's the reason why they cancel that they don't want to answer questions about that whole fiasco. I mean, I don't want to answer no Brandon. questions, you know, hey, I could see it. Mike Evans ain't never played in the 49ers offense before. I mean, they got a lot of new defenders out there. Rahim Morris is their decontator.

No Robert Sala anymore. They've got every reason to get out there on the field. So other than, you know, avoiding injuries, I suppose, like Cody was alluding to. But I don't think there's any coincidence. Now, why would he do that? Wait a minute. And then Iyuk goes on Instagram. I'm just saying.

Come on, man. Your tin foil hat has expanded as you were saying all of that. I mean, listen, both Kyle Shadyinand and John Litch are not going to cancel practice or practices because they're afraid to have any conversation of dialogue and answering your questions about what the hell is going on with Brennan Ayuk, who, by the way, is turning into Antonio Brown, right? Very much so. What has happened to Brendan Ayuk and who is he talking to? I don't know if you guys have seen

Antonio Brown's always doing these TikTok lives, right? And there's former Bronco DeVante Harris, so I'm very like close with like, I see a live, you know, I'm scrolling and a live pops up. I see Antonio Brown. They're doing this thing where it's just his face and he's got like this,

he's playing this game where it's like, there's like these, he's running from something, bro. And it's just like, it's the weirdest thing I've ever seen. It's like, get this dude off of TikTok live, man. Like what the heck is going on? where that was one of the wildest things ever seen like his exit from a football field never seen anything like it.

Hey, am I like that. That was the craziest thing. But I mean, I guess if you're going to quit your job, you're going to go out the bang. He certainly did just that. Not even Tom Brady could save Antonio Brown.

So. Yeah. Yeah. Antonio Brown, like just pure talent alone is one of the best that I've seen, obviously, in modern football history. Iuke is not in the Antonio Brown category from the skills.

No. I think I used a very good Not even close But yeah His antics are Antonio Browne- Yes very much so We thought T.O. and Ocho Cinco were bad back in the day man

I mean these guys have set a new bar See I appreciate those guys even more now I do I really love Those guys man Those guys combined like the diva Personality of a wide receiver with like Comedy as opposed to like Hey I'm just like

You don't even know what's going to happen next with me. I might walk off the field with my pads and shirt off. I don't know what's going to happen. You guys should have seen some of this coming. First of all, he plays a wide receiver position. And Sarah, just like you mentioned, there was a bunch of prima donnas that you just, you know, brought up. But also, we now living in the culture of chaos, not cancel culture, culture of chaos. And individuals and people in this business who work on this side, they relish an idea of chaos. Right. It's like if I am not in a dysfunctional chaotic environment, then I'm not doing my job, right? That's what people are thinking. I need people watching me. Yeah, I like to sleep peacefully at night. That's my thing. I hate chaos. Chaos disrupts my whole rhythm of my life. I hate it. I try to avoid chaos as much as I can because I love my sleep, man. And I like not having to worry. But some of these guys, that's the thing about this media game, though, man. We were just before we went on air, we were talking about this.

There are people that just like to create fake narratives just to do it, bro. I get fired up about this because I'm passionate about it because like now it's like anybody with the microphone can say the most craziest thing ever and it's going to get traction. It's like, no, like here's the substance. Like you should tune into us because guess what we're around the team. We try to do things the right way. We try to bring you as close to the actions again. That stuff I think to the true fans, I think that matters.

I think a lot of people hate the first take, the Skip Bayliss, the. Stephen A. Smith approach that we used to like watch. Like it wasn't as bad like when we were watching. Now it has become everyone's trying to replicate it. Everyone's trying to tear down players, organizations to create the most clicks. And I think it's just like if you have to do that, your content sucks. Heath Ledger said it best. And away we go.

I could go on a two hour tangent about this. But you know what? I'm going to save the ears of everybody listening. I got a microphone. Should I say some crazy stuff about Bo Nix just for the clicks? Yeah, why not? Go ahead. Everyone in the comments will be beating you up, bro.

They'll find you. No. Hey, Sarah, have your wife seen any more photos of Bo Nix foot? Not recently. No, I was, the last thing that I heard was that there was a vlog posted by Jared Stidham's wife. And so she was watching through some of that. I don't know if she saw anything. But, you know, that was the last update.

I received was, you know, and she keeps asking me, who's, who's the other guy in these videos? Who's the other quarterback on the team? And I keep having to remind her that it's Sam Ellinger, because she's not familiar with Sam Ellinger, but she's following all the wives now. All three of the quarterback's wives will get updates as they come in. Actually, my wife just deleted Instagram. So I, I don't know if I'm going to get those updates anymore. I actually don't know. TikTok. If she's got TikTok, she'll be all right. We're going to find a way. I might have to.

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Yeah, I really wanted to watch it in black and white. I will say after seeing it now, I appreciate the fact that I watched it in color because there's a lot of stuff that they did costume-wise to show that it's, yeah, you wouldn't get to see some of it without the color. So I think, hey, maybe give it a shot in both. Let's start with the color. Okay. I love that.

On the Broncos front, Cody, you'll be there. Thursday, correct? That's the expectation for OTA. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm trying to play a little forecast here. I don't think we'll get anything crazy from Sean. I mean, there's that Caleb Loner stuff. I know that's just like an interesting conversation separately

from everything just because of where they drafted them and all that kind of stuff. But I think I would imagine that a majority of the emphasis on OTAs, there'll be a bow question. I think Jonah Coleman will continue to get a lot of attention. Obviously, Jalen Waddle, but like it's seen, like we're talking about divas and star players at receiver. Like, they're

really is no drama for the most part with the Broncos. Obviously, we know what's going on off the field to a certain extent, but it's a pretty drama-free organization for the most part under the command of Sean Payton. Yeah, and look, the wide receiver room to Cortland Sutton said it best last week. He said, you know, for us, we have a selfless offense. And to our point of us wanting to achieve our goals, we have to be a selfless offense. So once again, I don't think you got a lot of me guys.

When it comes to, you know, Denver's offense, I think collectively it's nice to have the wide receiver room that they do have. And I do think that Jalen's going to add a complete chip to it. I think he's going to be the chippy guy. I think Troy's going to be a chippy guy. Pat Bryant, I think has the opportunity to be a chippy guy, but like in good ways, not necessarily bad ways. But to the point, it's like, Nick, you mentioned wide receivers are prima donnas and

divas. Why is it that they are the only ones? Aren't there other positions? Are there defensive positions in your opinion that are also prima donnas or divas? I just feel like it just depends on the personality and the make of a player. And not necessarily the position. Though I'd say Chad Ocho Cinco, Terrell Owens, those guys did a really great job of mastering that. And I would say that that's the type of guy that I would actually want on my team is how they went about certain things.

Well, on defense, you're going to have more of your masculine guys, your alpha males. But the reason I think it's more on the opposite side of the ball is because everyone loves someone who scored in touchdowns. Like defensively, like, you know, we are put in position to stop guys. Even if you get a pick sits, there's a celebration, but not a celebration equivalent to a guy catching a 30-yard pass for a touchdown or a game-winning catch. That's why the offensive guys are celebrating. Just think about it.

It's one of the biggest reasons why in the NFL, everyone talks about the quarterback position no matter what. So because you have the quarterback, it makes everyone on the offense that much smarter, even though he may be the smart. this guy on that side of the ball. And then also it's about catching touchdowns. It's about putting butts in the seats.

This is why we have the competition committee getting together, changing the rules to favor the offense because they want more scoring. I mean, I've never seen, I mean, like, okay, to full of transparency, I love a baseball type of score, right, where the score is really low. I love those types of scores, right? But some fans don't. And to get more butts in the seats, you want to score more. points. So the rules favor the offense. And this is why the office of guys, the wide receivers,

guess what? They are thrown the ball several times. Oh, there's my alarm. They're thrown the ball several times. And that's why they want to celebrate themselves, right? Receivers catch the ball. Everyone loves someone who's catching touchdowns. And that's why some of the Y receivers are divas. And yes, scoring a lot of touchdowns, having people talk about. about you sign this, sign that. It just blows their head up. And it's one of the reasons why when guys retire, it feels different. There's no crowds.

There's no one asking you for autographs. But there's a lot of divas more so on the offensive side than there is on the defensive side. We need a quarterback diva in the NFL. We just need a quarterback just become the absolute just villain. Like, who would that guy be? It was Tom Brady. He just got the cover of Madden. He just got the cover of Madden.

of the new Madden video game, maybe. That's the diva right there. Yep. He's the diva at the position. I mean, he's the, he's like the example of a diva, right? I mean, he's not like, it's not like a jerk about it,

but he's, he's got that like chip on his shoulder type mentality. You can tell. And he's, yeah, I think he's that guy. I think he's the one. I know we're going on a lot of tangents on today's episode of show. Did you guys ever see those in-season TikTok videos of, they're like there's a song it's just like a broncos players doing like

dances people are going through and still like some of their tic talks that they posted and they're like you guys just got beat by these divas and then it's just all the broncos one of the best videos i feel like i've ever seen like if broncos country you don't believe me go try to find it it's uh it's incredible i'm gonna check it out that's what people do when the they get beat by the thunder or that yeah the jared mccane jeremy you know they post all his old ticot videos and like You just got beat by this guy. It's always funny.

I like those videos. I like that content. That's good stuff. Sometimes social media is a fun place. Most of the time it's pretty toxic, but sometimes it gives you some gems like that. Divas. Let's hit our first break when we come back.

Speaking of divas, Marvin Mims, I would say, is definitely not a diva. But he did make an interesting move that could result in maybe something happening this offseason with the Broncos or without. We'll talk about that next. when we come back right here on your Lockdown Broncos squad show. All right, you guys, real quick. Let me tell you about our friends over at Fandual

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We know that Marvin's in a pretty interesting spot in his career, right, arguably the most explosive offensive player for the Broncos last handful of seasons. I know there's been some frustration, at least from the fan base, about the utilization of Marvin. And I know that Sean Payton himself has also talked about how they want to get him more involved in this offense. And this news doesn't necessarily have to deal with Marvin on the field. that's a lot more about Marvin off the field. As we learned yesterday, he has switched representations. He's going to be with athletes first, which I believe is the same. That's David Moologeta, if I remember correctly.

As his representation, I believe he represents Michael Parsons, a big-name agent in the world of NFL football. So Marvin been switching agents to athletes first. How do we think this impacts him this season and beyond, fellas? Well, I think, from your perspective as a player who's had an agent, like, can you go through and tell the fans, band base here. Like when you're changing agents right before the season begins, is that a good thing? Is that a bad thing? What does it mean from a player perspective? Well, it's a bad thing for your previous agent. It's a good thing for your new agent because you're moving in a different direction.

You know how like some women, it is said when they break up with a guy, they cut their hair, they change something. This is kind of the same thing. Marvin Mims is feeling as though, hey, listen, I've gone to two pro bowls. I'm not getting a certain level of notoriety and respect that I feel. And then the Broncos add, you know what I'm in the first question is, hey, how do you feel about Wado possibly replacing you in the offense? And that's kind of awkward, known as though Marvin Mims, when he's put on the field from a wide receiver position, he's excelled a lot. I mean, think about the game against Buffalo, that slot fade that he caught in the corner of the end zone.

Great catch by him, great throw by Bo Nix. These are all things that Marvin Mims feels as though he can do. And then, oh, by the way, you throw in his ability as a special team's player, that's a lot of value. And then you think about some of the athlete's first clients that they represent. I mean, these are like the who's who of players. And when you think about the Y receiver group, you got Michael Pittman Jr. You got D.K. Medcaf. You have C.D. Lamb.

I think Drake London is on their roster, too. and he's just got this massive deal from the Atlanta Falcons. So Marvin Mims has looked like, hey, man, I'm not mints meat. I can play in this game. So I'm eager to see how these changes with his agents are really going to affect Marvin Mims of how he plays, but also the interaction from the organization because Marvin's thrown down the gloves. He's like, look, man, I'm a top wide receiver in this market and in the league,

but I'm not getting that recognition. So this is going to be a fight. And whether Marvin is here or not, you know, that that's going to be something for conversations. But I do know there's 31 other teams that will love to have a guy like Marvin Mims on their squad. Yeah, the representation list is deep here. Sorry, go ahead, sir. No, I was just going to say we heard him not too long ago. I mean, not even a month ago, I don't think, talking about the fact that there had been no contract negotiations between him and the Broncos, essentially.

And I think, I don't know if he had already planned on. making this change at that time or if being asked that question and having to answer it with like, yeah, I haven't heard anything, made him think to himself like, well, shoot, like there's been no negotiations. That's actually a great point. Why haven't there been negotiations? Like, I want my agency to get to the freaking negotiating table and find out, give me an answer one way or the other because even if Marvin doesn't get a contract from the Broncos before the season, I think he deserves to know from the organization standpoint of like where do we stand like are are you guys wanting to keep me around or are you not because i need to go into this season with the peace of mind knowing one way or the other whether or not like i don't want to be focusing on this i

don't want to be wondering all year whether or not the broncos want me because that will whether or not they will say it the players i i believe it affects the way that they play and i believe that it affects so much about the way that you go about your business when you don't know if the company that you're part of truly values what you bring to the table in that way or at least just have you know have a conversation and say hey we want to negotiate with you but we're not going to do it until the buy week or we're not going to do it until next off season type of situation and you know give Marvin the peace of mind of knowing the timeline at the very least but i can't help think it happened when he was asked that question of like, hey, have you had any contract talks?

It's your contract year. You know, like Nick said, you've been to multiple pro bowls, multiple all pro teams. You've brought a lot to this organization. And he's like, no, nothing from my end. You know, that, that's tough. Like, that sucks. Honestly, I just, I feel for Marvin, but SpotRack, we, Cody and I did an episode about this for tomorrow's episode of the show.

But Spotrack has his value at three years, 19 million. Like, to me, if I'm the Broncos, like, I'd go do that deal yesterday. 19 million total? Yeah, three years, 19 million. Like, if that's the case, like, I mean, shoot, like that's a, that's a, that's shopping in the clearance section right there. So I would definitely, if I'm Marvin, I'm like, hey, let's at least get to the table and figure something out.

And Marvin's not looking to break the bank, I don't think. Like, when you look at it comparatively to other players, like Cavante Turpin of your cowboys, like, think. about what his role is. Like he's a speedy electric returner, but he's also a guy that has made some plays for the offense. He's not the number one option. But look, I think Marvin has more than proven himself over the last three years. He can be one of the most clutch players that this team can throw the football to. And his utilization, the overall amount of snaps that he has played or how he's being used. Like, for example, he'll be heavily targeted in the first half, won't see a single

target in the second half. Like that has been a problematic theme. But when the Broncos needed him most against the Buffalo Bills after Pat Bryant, Troy Franklin, go down with injuries? Marvin Mims, he answers the call. And then you go through the next week in the AFC championship game. He beats Christian Gonzalez, who's about to earn a big time contract for a deep ball down the right sideline. Like that stuff right there, Marvin's like, oh, and don't forget, I also set things up in the return game.

The hidden yards factor, the punt return touchdown against the Raiders, the punt return that he had, I think, a 60-something yards against the Chiefs in Denver, specifically when he made his return from having, I think it was a concussion at that point. Marvin is valuable to this team. And I don't think he's looking to break the bank, but to what Sarah said as well, like, when you're a player and you haven't heard anything, you're wondering like, okay, like, what does this mean for me? Like, aren't we generally as human beings concerned about our future, like not knowing what our financial situation, what our employment situation is going to be like a year, two years down the line? Think of it from a player. Not only does it put a chip on

the player's shoulder, but it also at the same time, too, from a performance psychology standpoint, you think about it, and it may also impact how you play because it's like, wait, I'm putting my body on the line, and I don't know where I'm going to ultimately end up being. Marvin has been very valuable. And I look, and I said it as well on the show we have coming out tomorrow. If the Broncos don't value Marvin, Marvin is going to go to a team that has an explosive offense, and he's going to be a game changer for them, and the Broncos ultimately are going to have to see that take place. However, knowing George and knowing Sean, Sarah made a great point on our show. Marvin is Sean Payton and George Payton's first ever draft pick together as a Bronco.

And they've valued him. Like they've talked so much about him. And Sean last week answered my question when I brought up Troy and I bought up Pat. He went out of his way to mention Marvin specifically. So I do think that there is something. And my question is, how is Davis Webb going to involve Marvin a lot more? These are great questions I think that we should definitely have coming into this week. And it's to that that I want to ask another question because Marvin changed his agency after the first week the Broncos had their on field activities. So if I'm putting the tinfoil hat back on again, I'm now starting to wonder, okay, Marvin just got his first glimpse of this new look offense with Davis Webb calling the shots, right? This was his first time out there on the field with all the veterans, all the rookies, all that stuff.

immediately after the first week of OTAs is over. He fires his agent and he gets a new one in there. So why would he do that? You know what I'm saying? Again, this could have been in the works since he made the comment about not having any negotiations. And maybe from that point, he's saying, okay, I need to get a new agency in here. They're not getting to the table for me. So he gets athletes first in, but also the timing of it being right after the first week of OTAs

with Jalen Waddle drawing a lot of attention. Sean Peyton saying to Trey Wingo, I wish you could have been out there at practice to see. This guy, he's something else, right? Like, he was good. Like, he was exactly what we hoped for. Everybody's talking about Jalen Waddle, Jalen Waddle, Jalen Waddle. So, I mean, if we want to throw some other stuff into this melding pot of, like, thoughts and opinions, the timing of it being right after the first week of practices, that probably not a coincidence or an accident.

No, Sarah, go ahead, Sennel. I was just going to say, like, when you bring in athletes first, too, like, it's one thing to get a new age, but, like, when you bring in athletes first, like, that's like the Scott Boris, at least from my perspective of football agents, right? Like, these are guys, and look, Marvin's not a Micah Parsons type of player or a Jordan Love or a Derek Henry type of player. Like, he's not going to be resetting a market necessarily. But he, in my opinion, is with the most notorious agency now. When I use notorious, I don't mean that in a bad way, but, like, when you hear athletes first, you think maybe, I don't want to say hardball, but they go about their business at a very specific type of way.

So that they get it done. Yeah, they get it done. I think the decision to go with athletes first is more interesting to me than switching agents in general. Yeah. Here's what I think with Marvin is thinking. All of this stuff is kind of coincidental. I think he started on this process a while back.

He doesn't feel appreciated. And sometimes teams can devalue a player. Let's just think about how Marvin Mims has been used. He's been used as a running back in the backfield. That is not his forte. His skill set is going vertical, making explosive plays. So by you putting him in the backfield, those are a bunch of negative plays,

and that decreases his amount of stats and his productivity. If you look at the number of yards that Marvin Mim has amassed over a couple of years, he had about 377 his first year, 500 and two his second year. Last year, I think it was 322 yards from a receiving standpoint. Your stats are going down. Your contract is expiring. You're not viewed as a valuable player because they bring in Troy Franklin and Pat

Bryant. And just like you said, Cody, which most fans should pay a lot of attention to, Marvin didn't go into the game into something happened to Troy and something happened to Pat. And you are veteran wide receiver. And it throws two young wide. receivers over you. They had to get banged up for you to go in the game and then show what you are as a wide receiver. That's a level of disrespect. And I'm sure if any of us were in Marvin's shoes,

we will look at it the same way. I love my boys. They're my locker room. They're my dogs. But guess what? I want to eat too. And I can't eat in this offense if you are not using me. So, Sarah, there may be a little something to what you're saying. Marvin was reading the writing on the wall. He's watching what's going on. Everyone's talking about Jalen Wadon. He's like, I'm not damn minced me. I've gone to two pro bows. Look around this

wide receiver room and tell me, which one of these guys have done that consecutively? I'll wait. So this is going to be a move where he's going to have, he hired more aggressive agency to actually negotiate on his behalf. And sometimes you want that.

You want someone else to be the bad guy, why you can be the good guy and you just go out there and you handle your business and let your agent handle the nonsense that's going to take place with negotiations. But if things don't go well, I see Marvin Mims on another team. And it would be crazy if he ended up in Kansas City. That would be terrible. I mean, that would be awful. But here's a thing, though. That microphone take. Yeah, exactly. This is what, this is what gets really interesting now to me is that let's say, let's say he hires a new agency, right? And they go to the negotiator.

negotiating table and the Broncos are like, oh, finally, somebody came to talk to us, right? We want to get a deal done for Marvin. We want to keep him around. He was the first draft pick, you know, Sean and I made together. We want to keep him around. We believe he's one of the best return men in the league. He's been valuable depth for us at receiver. So they offer a contract that's really competitive and really good. And we'll put a lot of guaranteed cash in Marvin's pocket. is, is that the motivation here is to get that financial security or does he want the bigger role in the offense? Because in Denver, can he actually have both? Can he have both of those things? Can he have the guaranteed cash and the bigger role? Or is it one or the other, right? Is that,

I mean, if he gets a bit, obviously, if you get a bigger role in free agency, he's probably still going to get quite a bit of cash. But is he hiring a new agency to stay in Denver or is hiring a new agency to start prepping to shop around his services as soon as possible because he doesn't believe he's going to have that role ever in Denver, even if they do offer him a contract because that's where I don't know. Like I don't know where he's at with like, is he okay being that guy in Denver who's the elite return specialist? He's going to come in and provide a spark for the offense, but he may never have more than five, six hundred receiving yards in a season. And that's if players get hurt. Like, is he okay with that? And if he's,

not at what point do the Broncos say, all right, we get it. Like, it's not long term. It's not going to work out. At what point do they, just like with the cornerback position right now with Riley, Jadae Barron, Chris Abrams, Drain, even, Jekwon Macmillan needs a new contract. Like, these are the tensions of winning in the NFL is that at some point you can't keep everybody. So what is the motivation for Marvin? Does he want to get that deal? Is he going to be fine in Denver? Like, if they give him they say here's your money this is this is what you wanted right and he's like well no not really i mean yeah i want the money but i want to play more i want more of a role how does that play out what do you guys see with that yeah i don't think you hire athletes first unless

you're willing to explore all your options right because but that's why i made the comparison of scott boris and baseball like i don't know if you guys are the listener like know who scott boris is like he's the one who's like basically runs majorly baseball when it comes to contracts and he's willing to play hardball in every single sense of the word. And I'm not saying that's what's going to happen with Marvin Min, but you also have to look at it realistically, right? Like he's a smaller wide receiver, right? He's a kick returner.

Like this might be his one opportunity to seriously cash in in his NFL career. So I would think all options are on the table. And I mean, I go back to was at a Nuggets game or an avalanche game he was at when he, like, the Jalen Waddle trade was brought up, right? And like, I was going to be honest. Yeah, it was like a little like, Yeah. Awkward, I guess, is the word that I would use kind of the response to that.

So I would think all options are on the table. And I think there's also something to be said, fellas, like the Broncos have been pretty proactive with getting an extension done with the Quinn Miners, the Sertans, the Nick Benito's, the Jonathan Cooper's, right? Like, all of these, Zach Allen, like, all these other guys haven't had to, like, necessarily wait the same way that Marvin has. So just food for thought. But again, I don't think you hire athletes first if you're not, you know, willing to explore your options. Well, and on top of it, too. No, I said, go ahead. I was just going to say, then they've also surprisingly, like, swooped in and stole Justin

Sternad back from the Carolina Panthers. And they let DJ Jones almost hit free agency. And they surprisingly brought him back. So, yeah, I mean, they've operated both ways. But it's definitely one of those things where you feel like, okay, he's the first pick of the Sean and George Payton era. They should want to bring him back. There's no, there's nobody on the team who even comes close.

to what he brings to the table as a return man. There might not be anybody in the league. There's maybe two or three guys in the entire NFL who can change a game in the return game the way that Marvin can. So you're telling me that that's just going to be, hey, we'll bring in the next guy. You know, I don't know. I don't know how that works out. Sorry, Cody, go ahead. No, you're good.

And I was going to say, too, like, we see far too often in this business, teams always do what's best for them, you know, so I don't have an issue at all, like for Marvin saying, you know what? Like, I'm going to do what's best for me. At the end of the day, Marvin's got to look out for himself because this game will not look out for him. He's got to take care of that himself. So I think fans got to come around to that a little bit because so often we, and I understand there's frustration. Like you like a player and let's say that there's like an impasse or there's a stall in contract negotiations. People are like, well, the players being stubborn. Like no, at the end of the day, the player is doing what they should because this business takes so much advantage of these players. They got to look at. look out for their best interest at the end of the day. So for Marvin, if that's financial security in the long term for putting his body on the line, then absolutely. Take care of yourself because we've seen stories. Nick, you know this as well as being part of the NFL alumni, NFLPA.

There are certain things where a lot of players who have played three or four years, once they're done, they don't feel they ain't reaching out to them anymore. They're not checking on them. Like so at the end of the day, players got to take care of themselves. I'm always for it. Here's the thing with Marvin really quickly. See, Marvin wants both of those things. He knows he has value.

He knows he's better than just being a return guy, even though both George Payton and Sean Peyton, he was their first draft. And during that time, they talked heavily about how great of a returner he is. Marvin Mems is not in a Devin Hester category. And he doesn't want to be in Devin Hester's category because Devin Hester was just a returner.

That's it. And it's almost like being in the movies. You don't want to be tight cast. And right now, Marvin is tightcast. He's trying to get outside the box. And he feels as though the way that the Broncos have been using him over the past couple of years, it is someone stifling his athleticism. It is elevating other receivers over him.

So he's like, yeah, you know, I want to get paid. Everyone should want to get paid. Also, too, I don't want to be a guy just on a team collecting a check. I mean, Tom Brady talked about something like this earlier this week or even last week. about practice squad players. And Kurt Benkirk and Ben Danucci was just like, well, no, Tom Brady is not being, you know, he's not telling the truth. Yes, he is.

There are some guys who want to sit in the background. They don't want to be the front man because when you're the front man of a band, guess what, you get all the chicks, but there's a lot of pressure on you too, right? Marvin Mim said, man, I'm trying to go from being a drummer to being the front guy. And I can understand that. Do the Broncos have to trade him? Like to control the narrative, to prevent the thing that you talked about, I mean, one of the many disastrous scenarios here of him and ending up on the chiefs potentially

at some point down the line or him ending up on the Buffalo Bills, some point down the line, or, you know, do the Broncos have to prevent that from happening by taking matters into their own hands and getting into that negotiating table and you got to play the game both ways, right? So do you have to be sick? I would be sick as well, but I mean, what do we want? Do we want Marvin on like the Titans or, you know, do we want him on the Chiefs? Like, do we want him on the Eagles or do we want him on the Chiefs? Would you rather have him on the Packers or the Chiefs?

Like, I'm just saying, like there are preferable outcomes to this as opposed to Marvin hitting free agency and becoming like we talked about on tomorrow's episode of the show, the Broncos version of Emmanuel Sanders, where the Steelers let him go. and he goes to play with Peyton Manning and becomes one of the best receivers in Broncos history. Like the Steelers didn't have him for those years and they could have probably used him. So I just think, yeah, that's the thing that, okay, if you can see that disaster on the horizon, do you take the control of that situation and say,

we're going to decide where you go and it's not going to necessarily hurt us in the immediate? Man, that would make me sick just because I would hope Just knowing what they have done in the past, I would hope that if they were ever thinking about trading Marvin or any receiver for the matter that they would do right by them, right? And sending them to like,

I mean, you mentioned Tennessee. You actually had a pretty good point when we did like ranking it. Tennessee might be an underrated team here going forward. They, you know, but like if you were to send them to the Browns, I'd be sick.

I'd be like, man, that's not doing right by Marvin. You know, there's a reason. They said Jerry Judy to the Browns. Don't do that to Marvin. San Francisco 49ers.

would be a perfect place for him. See? Trust me. Yeah. Kyle Schendingann will find a way to get him, the freaking ball, just like they did, Debo Samu's, CMC, and so many other guys. And right now, what the Broncos are saying, they're in the wait and see. That's why Clutch Sports, they didn't have a lot of dialogue because the Broncos said,

well, we have Pat Bryan, we have Troy Franklin. We're trying to wait to see how those guys develop. And we know Bo Nick's contract is coming up. There's several guys on that defense of. line who have massive deals. The Broncos are going to have to make some tough decisions and they're weighing their options. So those other two guys, Brian and Troy Franklin, step it up this year under Davis Webb. Guess what that means for Marvin Mims? Way freaking goodbye. Look, Marvin Mims is certainly one of those compelling players for the Broncos. I mean,

that's one of the more engaging conversations I think we've had. We've had some really good ones, but like you could go a number of different ways when it comes to Marvin Mims' future with this organization. And I think, look, I think I speak for all of you. We're, you know, and Sean as well, like just underutilized. Like, I think we all believe in the talent and the prospect of Margaret Bims. It just hasn't always come to fruition on a game by game season by season basis. Why? Ask yourself, why? Yeah. He's being, he's being surprised. You can't really show the full gamut of what you need to do. So everyone else around the league, they just see you as being just a one-stop shop guy. This is it. You're a one-trick

pony that's that would help excuse me hurt his ability to be traded and hurt his ability on the market so that this is one of the reasons you know athletes first were hired I need more people to talk about me I need more people to see me yeah all right well great conversation let us know your thoughts in the common section about Marvin mims and what do you think happens now that he has new representation with athletes first all right let's set a quick break when we come back we'll continue along with the conversation Garrett Bowles singing the praise of Jalen Waddle as the missing piece for the Denver Broncos. We'll break that down when we come back right here on your Lockdown Broncos Squad Show.

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All right, we'll come on back into the program. AP, Sarah, and Nick. Cody has to go do his big boy job and cover the Broncos and all that good stuff as well. So we'll hold it down the rest of the way. Great conversation on Marvin Mitten's. I'm very, very fascinated to see how that shakes out. But Garrett Bowles yesterday kind of singing the praises of Jalen Waddle. And I think kind of saying what a lot of Broncos country has felt,

that Jalen Waddle is the missing piece for this Broncos team. I'm not sure having Jailen Waddle last year would have made a difference with Bo Nix. hurt, but you look at this offense. And what I've continued to say on the radio station and amongst my friends is the number one goal for the Broncos offense this year is to raise their floor, right? Because you think the defense is going to be about as good, if not better, hopefully, than it was last year. But if the offense can kind of close the gap between an elite defense and become a very good, if not an elite offense by bringing in Jalen Waddle, they're going to be in a really good shape this year, fellas. And obviously, Garrett Bulls feels like that's the case. How do you make this defense better?

well, give them a lead early in the game, right? I mean, that's, that allows them to do what they do best. And I think that's one of the reasons why everybody's so enamored by the idea of like Miles Garrett joining the L.A. Rams because Miles Garrett has spent his entire career playing from behind. And he's still been one of the best past rushers we've ever seen. Now he's playing on an offense that ranked number, or playing with an offense that ranked number one in just about every category last year.

So you figure, I mean, it's like, it's like an elite offense in baseball to go back to your baseball analogies before. Now you've added an ultimate closer. And so I think from the Broncos perspective, it is finding a way to raise that floor offensively and start being more efficient from the start of games as opposed to when you have to have it. And the Broncos could come through in clutch situations.

But this is why I keep discussing the idea of this Broncos offense, finding ways to extend the gap in these one score games as opposed to people thinking, well, you're not going to be able to win 11, one score games. And in my mind, I'm like, sure, yeah, maybe you win four or five one score games. But instead of, you know, seven or six or seven of those, you know, one score games being one score games again, maybe now they're nine plus point wins as opposed to one score games. And this is the way that you do it as you get somebody. And I know we just spent a ton of time talking about Marvin Mims, but there's nobody in the offensive weaponry arsenal right, you know, before Jalen Waddle that can create separation.

that can create after the catch. That is as reliable on an every down basis. That is dictating what defenses do other than Cortland Sutton, who when they took Cortland Sutton off the board, the Broncos didn't really have many answers for that. On occasion, it was Troy Franklin. And on other occasions, it wasn't anybody. So it's just really this Jalen Wattle edition does feel,

as I put it to Cody, like the missing stone in the infinity stone of the gauntlet, right? This is the one thing that's going to take it from, okay, we feel like we have pretty much everything else, but this is the one guy that was missing, the one piece that was missing. This is a two-prong approach and listening to Garibault say, hey, he was a missing piece. First is validating, acknowledging the skill set of one Jalen Waddle. And the Broncos had a guy similar to Jalen Waddle and Jerry Judy, but there were some other issues associated with Jerry Judy that stifled his development within the offense. The other part of this process that exposes so that they say, you hit on it just a little,

is the Broncos wide receiver room, right? So you uplift Jalen Wado on one end, but you also look at the facts for what they are. When you look at that wide receiver room, it wasn't currently, as it's currently constructed, wasn't what most fans or most people outside of this. market actually hoped they would be. Because when you are opposing defensive player and you're looking at the Broncos roster and you're going through and say, well, what's one of these guys are going to have me up at night?

And you said, well, not many of those guys. And you brought up Cortland Sutton. You know, Cortland Sutton was underutilized like Marvin Mims as well because you got a big body wide receiver. He doesn't run like he used to, but that happens to all of us. But he still is a big body guy and the 50-50 ball was one of his specialties. there wasn't a lot of back shoulder the fades for him. And when teams decided to take him out of the equation,

where else were you going if you were Bo Nick? So what Bo would do? Bo would say, you know what? I'm not standing in his pocket getting sat. I'm getting on the perimeter. And then guess who would get open? Freaking Cortland Sutton, right? So those are the two-prong approach.

Validate Jailen Wadu, but also acknowledge Wado was here for a reason because what they felt they had in that Y receiver room wasn't good enough. stuff. Yeah, no, I'm with you. And ultimately, like, I think I need to maybe caution Broncos fans a little bit. Like, it might take a couple of weeks for Jaylen Waddle get caught up to speed. Like, I'm expecting Jailen Waddle to be hitting his stride, like, maybe closer to the middle point of the season. Like, I guess what I'm trying to say is, like, don't be surprised if, like, maybe there isn't an instant impact in week one or we two. Maybe this is, like, the most freezing cold take of all time. Like, maybe Jailen Waddle just come out like he shot out of a cannon for this Broncos team.

but I think it's about the long-term building, right, and just adding that offensive firepower, really just adding to an offense that, you know, I think was a little frustrating at times last year, but we were still able to hold their own. And ultimately, like, we've talked about it extensively throughout the course of the offseason since the trade. Like, I think Jalen Waddle is obviously a massive addition, but I think what Jalen Waddle does for the Cortland Sutton's, the Marvin Mims, the Pat Bryant's, right? Like, that to me is actually what I think I'm a little bit more excited about is not only are you getting an impact player a wide receiver, but this is a guy that should make your wide receiver a bit more robust because

now defense they're going to have to hone in on that. Yeah, that's where I've kind of brought up this idea of the supporting actor role for the Broncos wide receiver position being a big deal this year because they'll be able to kind of pick and choose which one of those backup receivers or rotational receivers is going to be the best matchup for whatever third corner they're going up against or, you know, if they're going up against more zone heavy defense, do they rely on Pat Bryant and his ability to sit down against his own and create after the catch or whatever the case may be. But I think for Waddle, in terms of him hitting the ground running, I think even more so than the Broncos needing that from him, I can't help but wonder if Waddle is seeing all these contracts getting thrown out to wide receivers and thinking to himself,

hey, like there's 30 plus million per year, 35 million plus per year being thrown out to these wide receivers around the league. If I can become, Waddle's never made the Pro Bowl, by the way. I don't know if everybody knows that. I didn't know that. But if Waddle can come out this season and be that guy over 1,000 yards or over 1,100 yards, whatever it ends up being and be that featured piece from week one, he's going to get 30 to 35 million a year from the Denver Broncos on a new contract. And so I think that's what makes this such an exciting move is it's the Broncos needed that missing piece.

Jalen Waddle has an opportunity to prove he can be that missing piece and cash in in the biggest way pot in the craziest wide receiver market that we've ever seen from the richest owners in American pro sports. So to me, you have this marriage of two things happening. The Broncos desperately need Jailen Waddle. Jailin Waddle has what the Broncos need. And when that comes together, that is going to result in victory for everybody. Money and extra zeros in Waddle's account, the Broncos winning games, the offense, taking that step forward. This is the perfect scenario for everybody involved.

And I think Waddle's going to rise to the occasion. I don't know that he's necessarily on the level of like, you know, the Justin Jefferson's of the league, right? The Jemar Chase type of players. But I do think Jalen Wattles, that type of wide receiver that you can say, hey, man, like, go get open at the word hut and he's going to find a way to do it and make a play. That's just the type of player that he was at Alabama. That's a type of player that he was in Miami.

he just feels like that type of difference maker for the offense. See, Sarah, what you just described was the perfect sandwich, peanut butter and jelly. They go perfect together, right? But here's one thing about peanut butter and jelly. If everyone in the room starts to love peanut butter and jelly, guess what happens to ham and cheese? No one likes to eat the ham and cheese. It's sitting over there in the corner and the cheese is starting to melt. So as Jalen Water wants to be here, like you said, he hasn't been to a pro bowl.

guess who has. Corley Sutton, Marvin Mims. They've been to a pro bow. So to feed peanut butter and jelly, ham and cheese got to suffer. So someone's not going to be here, right? Because you're not just going to pay everyone all this amount of money and then suffer dead cap issues and suffer salary cap issues. The Broncos just got from under those salary cap issues with their contract with Russell Wilson. They're not trying to put themselves in that same situation again. Now, unless you're telling me that George Payton and Sean Payton is going to take a Sean McVey and less needs approach, F them picks and push all their chips to the center of the table and say, well, we want to win a Super Bowl now.

We don't care about five years ago. Okay, then, hey, that is their scenario. Then let's rock with it. But I see an issue here because someone's going to be in and one or two players are going to be out. Yeah, man, look, it's going to be, you hope they win this year, right? Because then when these questions have to start being answered, then maybe you can try to adjust your thought process here and how they want to be actionable about it as well.

But ultimately, we shall see, but I do think we all agree here that Jalen Waddle is a massive addition and could very well be the missing piece for this Denver Broncos team. Let's hit our final break. We'll come back, put a bell in the show, locked on the show. We'll explore a fun theme. Of course, it is your lockdown Bronco squad show.

on Friday show or whenever we do the second show this week. I thought Sean Payton had a really interesting quote with Trey Wingo about just one score wins and all that kind of stuff. Let's save that for later this week because I think that's worthy of kind of a much longer in-depth conversation. And then we'll obviously recap OTAs on either Thursday evening or Friday. We'll figure out what we want to do it as well. We'll have you covered here throughout the course of the week no matter what.

But I think ultimately today, guys, like, wide receiver heavy show. I mean, think about where we start, right? with like the diva conversation and Brandon Iuk and Antonio Brown and all that kind of stuff and that feeds us into Marvin Mims and ultimately they're talking about Jalen Waddle like I think to kind of summarize it all like bringing back to Marvin a little bit too is the wide receiver room to me is still a bit unknown beyond Cortland Sutton right like I'm looking at it I mean you can even make the argument that it's a bit unknown with Jalen Waddle just because we haven't seen him play with the Broncos quite yet like how is he going to fit here I think we all expect them to fit in nicely but like let's just take it at face value of Sutton Wattell model. And then it's like a very, we haven't even talking about Troy Franklin today. Like that to me is one of the biggest takeaways. And I think what I'll be watching in training camp preseason and of course the regular season is ultimately how does this wide receiver room kind of round into four because there's a lot of question marks across the board here, fellows. Yeah. And there's nothing wrong with having depth. But to Nick's point, I mean,

eventually you do have to kind of make some decisions on players one way or the other. And that's where I think, you know, just like with the Devon Valet trade last year, the Broncos kind of get blown away with an offer. And then they may have regretted that during the course of the season when they could have used Devon Veilet as the injuries sort of piled up at receiver. I think that's the tension right now is that do you put one eye on the future in terms of team building and understanding the reality that, hey, if we lose Marvin and free agency, there's a, there's a distinct possibility that he could try to stick it to us by going somewhere

else or do you take take that risk and just come what may because with valet you know last year that was i mean top three or four in targets on it in his rookie season i can't remember what it was the overall numbers i don't have them sitting in front of me but that was one of bow nicks's more trusted guys in his rookie season you trade him away because you get an offer you feel you can't refuse and it does impact the offense like i'm not saying valet was the team MVP or anything like that but having him as a role player and a secondary option throughout the 2024 season. We saw the vertical passing game was more explosive. They moved the chains more on third downs.

They converted more times in the red zone. I'm not saying, again, he was the reason for that. But having that extra player available, do the Broncos go back to that scenario and think to themselves, hey, we could trade away somebody during training camp or during the offseason program? But at the same time, we're trying to win this thing right now. So like do we sacrifice the now because we know what's inevitably coming down the road? Or do we just say, you know what?

Screw it. Like we're going to have to deal with whatever happens. We're going to have to let it happen. And that's the tension that this offseason is really bringing that maybe not everybody in the fan base is really seeing right now. Yeah, that's going to be the most interesting thing. This is why these OTAs and these mini camps are going to be so important. And we're not going to get a chance as being part of the media to see a lot of what's going on behind the scenes. But that is what the team is thinking.

If someone steps up into a role that they didn't anticipate, then that changes everything. Just remember, you talked about Devon Valet. I mean, he was the dagger for Tim Patrick, who's now with the New York Jets. And even though we didn't see a lot of valet, he was a lot in practice, everyone was ooh and I. And I remember being at training camp practice, and they were just talking about, did you see the paths that bowed through the valet and all of this? And we were still trying to figure out,

well, why receivers are going to make this team? Because we knew for sure that was a conversation. Oh, Baylay is making the team. And then what happened? Guess what? He's on his way to New Orleans. So that's where Marvin Mims feels he's in that position. He saw what happened.

He's thinking that could be me. So if that's going to be me, I need the proper representation that's going to get me the best deal and put me in a right place to be successful. So that's what we should start thinking. And when we go out to practice, what we should start watching is, you know what? Who's emerging as the next punt return or kickoff returner that could replace Marvin Mims? That is going to tell us a lot about how this team truly sees Marvin Mims. And we know what this is.

This is a business at the end of the day. It's about value. I feel as though Marvin as a wide receiver has been devalued, but because of those two pro bowls, he has value. And don't be surprised, Sean's going to keep talking him up, like he was talking about Caleb Loner.

Right, and we're thinking, oh, you know what? Since he's talking about that guy, that means he's going to stay. No. What that also means is that you're trying to build him up. You're trying to build an anticipation, and you're trying to validate him so other teams can go, well, you know, Sean is talking about, you know,

talking about, you know, this type of player, Caleb Loner, and he's talking about Marvin Mims. So that means though they want to keep him. So, hey, hey, if we called you guys and we say, well, what would you be willing to part ways of Marvin Mims for? And now, guess what? The trap has now been sprung. Yeah. I mean, is there a chance real quick?

Marvin Mims is the next to Vaughn Bailey? Like, I know you kind of floated it out there, Sarah. Like, is there a chance that they just trade him during training camp? because they really fall in love with Pat Bryant and Troy Frankum, they got wallowed and Sutton already? Yeah, I think the only thing that prevents me from being like, yes, absolutely, is the fact that he is an elite return specialist. And Sean Payton talks about the hidden yardage,

and we've seen in, I mean, a variety of occasions, Marvin coming through on punt return and kickoff return and really setting this team up with those hidden yardage, that helps the offense in starting field position, and that in turn helps your defense because, you know, we all know the reason why. So I think that's the only thing that's preventing me is that we talked about how underrated the need for a backup

or a second kickoff returner was this off season, and we saw the problems, you know, of what the Broncos didn't have in the depth department there last year, when Bandy comes in as a punt returner against Houston, immediately muffs a punt nearly cost the team the game. Then you have a kickoff return situation where Marvin is called upon for the offense. We need Marvin on offense.

We need to have him because Troy's down, Pat's down. And so he has to play offense. We can't have him returning kicks. Then all of a sudden, you've got guys like Bade and RJ and McLaughlin out there that they're not doing anything in the return game. They're not helping your field position at all.

In fact, almost the opposite. It felt like it would have just been better if they let it bounce into the end zone. So I think that there's that conversation right there. is the one that's like, wow, unlike Vele, who doesn't really play special teams, like Marvin is a core guy. Like he's a elite level return man. And therefore, the offer would have to be really good.

And your solution to trading him would have to be even better. I agree. I agree. Ultimately, we shall see again. We got OTAs coming up again later this week. Cody and Nick, I believe will be down there. They'll have you covered with all of your insights and information. mini camp after that training camp preseason regular season.

We are getting closer and closer to Broncos football officially being back. But that's going to do it for us on today's Lockdown Broncos Squad Show. For Nick Ferguson, Sarah Bedinger, I am and Elo Piro. Thank you guys so, so much for tuning in. Hit that like button, smash that subscribe button on your way out the door. And we'll talk to you guys later this week. Peace out, y'all.