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Episode Date: February 21, 2025

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The St. Louis Cardinals are preparing for their first spring training game and we'll have a guy on the mound that is a massive wild card for this team going into the season. This is Locked on Cardinals. You are Locked on Cardinals. Your daily St. Louis Cardinals podcast podcast, part of the Locked on Podcasts. Part of the Lockedon Cardinals. Part of the Lockdown Podcasts Network. You can follow me on ACTS at JD Sports Radio. You can also follow. I'm J.D. Hafford. And I'm your host for Locked on Cardinals. Part of the Lockdown Podcast Network covering your team every day. You can follow me on Axe at JD Sports Radio. You could also follow. follow the podcast at L1 underscore Cardinals. We're on YouTube, of course. Please like, subscribe, comment, and hit that notification button so you know when the new episode's coming out. Also available now on TikTok at Locked on Cardinals and on Instagram as well. We're all over the place.

This is a show serving Cardinal Nation and giving the best fans in baseball, all of the info about the birds on the bat. Today's episode being brought to you by Fandall right now. New Fandall customers can get $150 in bonus bets if your first $5 bet wins, just download the app or head to Fandul.com to get started. So the St. Louis Cardinals will be playing their first spring training game on Saturday against the Miami Marlins. Very exciting. Good to see baseball back. Last couple of days, you've been able to, you know, watch some other teams play. Finally, the Cardinals will be back on the field.

And it's been announced that Eric Fetty is going to be starting this particular game, followed by Matthew Libertor. Fetty is a guy that we have discussed a little bit, but not a ton this spring. to be honest because, you know, and it's only week two, and I get that. But he's kind of like kind of the forgotten man in this rotation. And, you know, it's a rotation that's once again going to be very veteran heavy. If everybody stays healthy, obviously you're number one on the staff in your ace, although some people get their feathers quite ruffled when you throw the A word around. But your number one is going to be Sunny Gray, who had a solid season last year.

The long ball ended up biting him a couple of times. I shouldn't say, come about a lot more than it did the previous year with the twins, which was a little disheartening and a bit of a bummer. We're hoping for better results there, but still a solid year for Sunny Gray. I think the big complaint that a lot of people had going into the season last year was, yay, Sunny Gray, awesome. Who's your number two guy right behind him? Who's that going to be?

You know, the team goes out and they get coffee. Gibson and Lance Lynn. And we all kind of felt the same way about it. I don't know anybody who was like, yeah, World Series. Here we go. Kyle Gibson and Lance Lynn are on the roster. It was met with a lot of, I mean, those are okay guys, but are they going to push you over the top and make you that much better of a team?

Not really. And they both had okay seasons. Lance Lynn dealt with some injuries. That knee issue obviously held him back a bit, but he was better than I thought he was going to be. Kyle Gibson was what Kyle Gibson usually is. Just kind of your middle of the road. Decent pitcher, you know, he's not going to kill you most days, but, you know, he's not somebody who is going to go out and dominate usually. So, um, you had Miles Michaelis coming off a down year. He had another down year last year. Uh, Matt's was injured again. Andre Palante, clearly a pleasant

surprise. And the hope is that he continued to progress as a starter this year and continue to do what he did in the second half of last season. You know, we're hoping that what we saw for Michael McGreevy, we're hoping that that was real and not just a mirage because the numbers tell you when he was in the minor leagues before getting the call up was that there wasn't anything that really stood out about Michael McGreevy, but they made some changes and did some different things with him last year. And you saw the results of that because after he came up to the major leagues,

looked really good with the Cardinals. then when he went back down to Memphis was very good with Memphis again. So we're hoping that we get more of that out of Michael McGreevy. But a major wildcar for this team, in my opinion, for this rotation is, what are they going to get from Eric Fetty this year? What should we expect? Now, for those of you who are not familiar with Eric Fetty's journey, he grew up in Vegas, actually played with Bryce Harper in high school,

went to UNLV, was a former first round pick of the Washington Nationals back in 2014. He won 18th overall for those keeping track at home. The Cardinals took Luke Weaver at number 27 that year. They also got Jack Flaherty in that draft at number 34. It was a compensatory pick for the Yankee signing Carlos Beltron. Fetty goes on to win a ring with the Nationals in 2019, but the numbers never really panned out for him at the major league level. He never quite figured things out when he finally did become a full-time starter in 2021.

Over a two-year period, he appeared at 56 games. started 54 of them, goes 13 and 22, the ERA 5.64, the RA plus just 71. It was a minus 1.7 war. It was just not good, basically. So things were bad. And following that season, 2020 season, it only got minor league offers from team. So instead, he decided to take an offer that he got one year, $1 million to pitch in Korea, where he ends up redoing.

everything for himself. Like he just rejuvenates the career and becomes somebody people won again. He gets the pitching triple crown in Korea, 20 and 6, the IRA of two. He had 209 strikeouts and 180 in a third innings pitched, which is outstanding, specifically, compared to the numbers that, you know, that he was throwing in the major leagues. He wasn't getting strikeouts like that at all. Now, sure, Korea is a lower level than the major leagues. But to be able to do that at a professional level. It says something. And, you know, he took home their version of the Cy Young.

He got the MVP award that year. Not too shabby. And the big change that really turned things around for him was the sweeper that he added, a pitch that has become more and more popular among major leaguers in the last couple of seasons. Sunny Gray, that's a pitch that has taken him to a different level as well. He's surely benefited from it. Thetty said, in a sense, I had always thrown a horizontal breaking ball, but didn't really have any true intent with it, just trying to throw a breaking pitch,

and then kind of changed the grip, added four miles an hour to it, and it became over there at least a devastating pitch. He also gained his confidence back, which I will continue to harp on, which is such a huge thing for players, is having confidence that you are one of the best players in the league, and that you were one of the best players around the world and that you belong where you're playing and that you believe in yourself, really. So we got that confidence back with the success in Korea,

ends up turning that into a two-year, $15 million deal with the White Sox, who, as you know, flipped him to the Cardinals along with Tommy Fam at the trade deadline as part of the three-team involving the Dodgers getting Tommy Edmund. And we all, you know, know how that worked out for L.A. not too shabby. But Fetty didn't find, you know, when he got to St. Louis, he didn't find as much success as he had when he was with Chicago, right? You know, despite the White Sox being a far less competitive team,

that took him a little while to get going with the Cardinals. With Chicago, he was 7 and 4. He had a 3.11 ERA, the ERA plus of 132. The war, 4.7 after the trade with the Cardinals, ends up going 2 and 5. The ERA still respectable, but not quite where it was at 3.72. The ERA plus drops down to 113, and his war is at 0.9, which, you know, for those of you who know about war, you know, it's a cumulative thing. So 0.9, you know, it's whatever. He wasn't with the Cardinals long enough to really, to really grow on.

But I feel like a lot of fans were underwhelmed from what they saw from Eric Fetty. And you're at the end of the year when they were finally on of things and not as many people are paying as much attention. to some of the good games that Fetty had near the end of the year. Now, he's not a big strikeout guy. He never has been until he got to Korea. That's just not been really his thing. At a strikeouts per nine of eight with the socks last year, that dipped to 7.4 with the Cardinals for 7.8 per 9 last season.

Now, for reference, NL.Sai Young Award winner Chris Sale, led the league at 11.4Ks per nine. Sunny Gray, actually second at 10.98. but Fetty's ability to avoid hard contact was the key for him last season. And I know people are sick of the Cardinals having those pitch to contact type of guys. But that's kind of what Eric Fetty is. He's going to get you some case. But being able to avoid the barrels is really his type of game.

The sweeper, the biggest weapon opponents at just 165 against it last year with a width percentage of 25.1, which gives him a run value of seven. Now, run value is based on the outcome of the pitch that you throw, whether it's a ball, whether it's a strike, they get a hit, they get a home run. You know, whatever it is, it'll fluctuate up and down. And among those who qualified Fetty's run value with that sweeper was tied for fifth in the league. So one of the best ones around, Sunny Gray, who was considered to have one of the best sweepers in the game, had a run value of five.

Just throwing it out there. To me, what Eric Fetty looks and feels like is a younger, better, cheaper version of Kyle Gibson. He's half the cost of what Kyle Gibson cost you last year, much younger, obviously, and is just starting to, hopefully, just starting to blossom into becoming the pitcher he's going to be, at least for this season for the Cardinals, because I don't know if he's going to be around in St. Louis, because this is the final year of his contract. But if he has a good first half or second half, you know,

first half of the season and become something of a trade value with the trade deadline, great. Hopefully the Cardinals are winning and they don't want to trade him. But can Fetty replicate what he found last season with the White Sox in 2025? And what we saw little glimpses of when he became a St. Louis Cardinal, at the end of the year. We'll find out. We'll find out.

I don't have an answer for you on that yet. But he knows his game, the pitcher, the pitching staff and the coaches and everybody, they know what he is. Okay. And they're hopefully going to make the best of what he has to offer. He's got a lot of movement on his pitches. It doesn't really, doesn't throw like a straight four scene fast for anything like that. It's sinker, it's cutter, it's sweeper, you know, a lot of movement going there.

which keeps people off balance. He's got a pitch. He's not a thrower. He's a pitcher. And we're going to get our first glance at him at least in 2025 on Saturday against the Marlins where he's scheduled to throw one, maybe two innings. And then you'll have Matthew Libertor following up behind him,

which, you know, obviously we're excited to see him as well and see what he has to offer if he's gotten any better in the offseason as he heads into another year with the Cardinal. So another name that's getting a lot of buzz around camp has been top prospect J.J. Weatherhole, who got a chance to face Ryan Housley on Thursday, so we'll discuss some stuff about him coming up next on Locked on Cardinals. When the game tips off, the NBA action is just getting started and there's no better place to get in on it than Fandall, America's number one sports book. Now with Fandall, you can play slide vets throughout the game,

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Thank you again for making a lot on Cardinals, your first list in every day. You can leave your comments on YouTube as well as on Twitter X anytime you want that feedback. Always welcome and encouraged. The Cardinals consensus top prospect is infielder J.J. Weatherholt. He's considered by many to be one of the top young prospects in all of baseball. They'd say it's not just with the Cardinals. Like he's up there. And considering he just got drafted last year,

It says something about what the expectations for a JJ Weatherholt are going to be. It was taken number seven overall by the Cardinals and the 2024 MLB draft. And again, there was some chatter that he could go as high as number one. Like there was some chatter about that. So expectations are sky high about this kid as he enters his first spring training camp with the team. And so far, he has not disappointed. People have been very, very happy with what they've seen from J.J. Weatherhol. so far had a chance to face raining in out closer of the year. Ryan Helsley on Thursday,

which, you know, that's, that's a cool matchup. I'm sure it's, it's fun for Housley on one side of things because, hey, I'm going to show this kid what's up. On the other side, you've got Weatherholt, who's coming from A ball in college just before that, now getting to face one of the best closers in all of baseball, had to be a lot of fun for him. He did not strike out, by the way. He actually pulled the ground ball to the first base side. against him. And in an article by Derek Gould at shtel today.com, he got a quote from JJ about this experience saying that, you know, talking about Helsley here, his stuff is top of the league. You're not going to be hitting 100 like he is in the season, but he's building up just like we are,

but still his building up is nasty. That's cool to see. When you get any chance to face a big ring arm, it's special. You just got to make the most of it. Weatherholt also faced veteran reliever Nick Anderson on Thursday. It went off the bottom of the fence in left field. So a little opposite field, a little apo taco power there. Also connected on a couple of deep flies against minor league relievers, Andre Grinio and Edwin Nunez, Nunez, one of those guys that's got a very lively arm.

Grinio's had a lot of success in the minors so far as a back of the end bullpen guy. Maybe we see one or both of them in the major leagues at some point. we don't know where Weatherholt's going to start the season. You know, it's not going to be at the major league level. So don't worry about that. My guess is he could start as high as double A. I'd be shocked if they put him all the way up to AAA Memphis. But after playing A ball last year, pretty darn good numbers down there.

You know, I could see them starting in a AA Springfield. But if he has to start an A ball again, so be it. But it's cool to see him getting, getting his feet wet with the big leaguers at camp. Some takeaways about JJ from video and stuff I've seen and, you know, the different interviews that I've heard with J.J. Weatherholt. There's a few of them that are floating around there. He seems very, very mature for his age. He's 22 years old, which, by the way, is still Jordan Walker's age, which is something

because everybody feels like Jordan Walker is older than he really is. He's only 22 as well. So you got him at 22. You've got Sejacy age 22. So Walker, Weatherholt, Sejacy, you know, big pieces of this puzzle moving forward, very, very young. But Weatherholt, like Jordan, you know, carries himself as a much older guy in interviews. So Jacey, too. Sejacy's a pretty mature guy in his interviews. But Weatherholt, something that I grabbed from him is that, you know, he seems, you know, laser focused about everything. You know, every aspect. You know, of this game. It's, it's business, man. It's business. And even though this game is a game and he has fun playing it clearly and loves it, it's very much you can see it. And it's a job. It's a job for him. He wants to be great. He wants to be the best. He's got a lot of drive, takes things very seriously. And that's going to go a long way for him as he continues to climb that ladder and make his way through the minors up to the major leagues.

I also enjoyed the story about bench coach Daniel DeScalso, handing out some homework assignments to JJ and to another former first round pick and outfielder Chase Davis. According to reports, Weatherholt was supposed to do research on Ozzy Smith. Davis was doing one about David Freeze, which is cool because, you know, both of those guys are in camp, you know, helping them out as special instructors at spring camp this year working with the club. and I just think it's really cool that the Cardinals, at least,

at least Daniel DeScalso decided. I don't know who else decided this, but they're making it a point to get to know the organization. This is a way to make this organization feel much more like a family. You know, when you're sitting around the dinner table and you're talking about your uncles and you're talking about your grandparents and things they, you learn about things that they used to do as you got older. You learn more about their history and things they did.

And, you know, it's cool to get that kind of knowledge. And knowing that the club and its players to get to know about the history of this organization, you know, one of the most historic teams in the league, I think it's important. I think it's an important thing to teach, teach these guys how special the St. Louis Cardinals are, you know, learning about how the organization was built from those early days as the Browns. And when they became the Cardinals and, you know, learning about names like, you know, a branch Ricky and a Rogers Hornsby, the gas house gains. We're talking about things that happened a hundred years ago now.

That, you know, that's a long time ago. These guys don't know anything about that stuff. And to have to, you know, do a little research and learn a little bit about them and Dizzy Dean and, you know, Joe Medwig, Red Chaney's, Ineslaughter, Marty Marion, of course, Stan the Man, Lou Brock, Bob Gibson, Kurt Flood, Kim Boyer. It sucks that these guys are gone. that they're no longer with us. It sucks that they can't hear those stories firsthand from these legends.

And, you know, but we've still got some guys. Now we're moving on to stars from the 80s and the 90s, you know, like Ozzie and Willie McGee, Tommy Hur, John Tudor, you know, some of those guys from those era, obviously the 2000s are a big deal. Poo-holes, Yadi, Karp, Wainwright, Scott Rowland, David Freeze, you know. Those are the guys that paved the way for what these kids are a part of now. And I think it's important to learn about that. And right now the Cardinals, you know, they're not thought all that highly of around the game.

You know, the shine has dimmed on the St. Louis Cardinals organization. People aren't talking about them anymore. And these guys, the weather holds, the walkers, the Gormons, the Sue Jasees, the Quinn Matthews, the Tink Hents. these are the guys that are going to have to bring the Cardinals back to greatness. And, you know, learning more about the people who came ahead of you, I think that's important of what you're trying to build moving forward, the Cardinal way. Be great again.

Be great again. That's what they want to do for the St. Louis Cardinals, showing them that, like, you're getting the keys to the car now. This is your chance. to become a part of history and make your mark with an organization that's been so important to the game of baseball for so very long. I dig it. I think it's a great idea. I hope it's something that continues into the future. Speaking of greatness, the Cardinals announced the Hall of Fame ballot nominees for this year. We'll discuss those guys next on Locked on Cardinals.

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Cardinals, your first listen today for your second listen. Find Lockdown MLB, baseball guru Sully brings you a daily blend of humor and of course baseball, keeping you updated on all the teams during spring training. And you can find Lockdown MLB on YouTube or wherever you listen to podcasts. So the Cardinals officially revealed the nominees for induction into the Teams Hall of Fame this year. They include Steve Carlton, who's already a Hall of Famer, George Hendrick, Brian Jordan, and Edgar Rinterea. Now, when you look at bad trades throughout the Cardinals history, there's not a ton of them, you know, more times than not, they've come out on the right side of things, but Steve Garleton won pretty bad, pretty bad. It's either

at or near the top of the list for bad Cardinal trades for sure. 77 and 62 while wearing the Cardinals uniform with a 3.10 ERA in 190 games. 172 starts with the Cardinals over parts of seven seasons. 66 complete games, man, it was a different time when those guys pitch, wasn't it? 16 shutouts, World Series champion in 1967 and a three-time All-Star while with the Cardinals, of course, after the trade. It gets traded in 1972 to the Philadelphia Phillies, and that's when Carlton's game just goes to another level.

financial reasons were why he got he got shipped out goes on to win the triple crown and the scy young in that first year with philly and ends up winning four si young awards total with the philly's already in the national baseball hall of fame has his jersey retired in philly as well but it all started with the st louis cardinals uh george hendrick with the scene from 1978 to nineteen eighty four top the team at home runs and rbis and received n lmvp award votes in four consecutive years between 1980 in 1983. Bad at 300 or better, three times. It was a two-time All-Star Silver Slugger Award recipient with the Cardinals.

He drove in the winning run in game seven of the 1982 World Series against the Milwaukee Brewers, known as Silent George, ranks ninth in franchise history with 62 game-winning RBI since 1980, served as the Cardinals hitting coach in 1996 and 1997. Obviously, he's been a big part of Cardinal history. Brian Jordan. Brian Jordan. There's Bo Jackson, Dionne Sanders, and then there's Brian Jordan, right? Who was super underrated during his time with the Cardinals, at least in my opinion.

It was a football player first, defensive back with the Atlanta Falcons was very good with them. Cardinals said, hey, we would like you to play baseball full time after they had drafted him. I think it was in 1988. And he finished eighth in the NL most valuable player award voting in 1996 after batting 310, 36 doubles, 17, Dangers, 104 RBI. guys and 22 stolen bases just a little bit of everything from Brian Jordan there. Led the Cardinals to the NL Central Division Championship in their first postseason appearance since 1987 and 1980 he set career highs with a 316 batting average,

25 dingers before leaving in free agency to join the Atlanta Braves where he continued to have a very solid career. But he was fun. He was cool to watch when he was in a Cardinals uniform. So you love you some Brian. Jordan. And then, of course, Edgar Rinterea, who never, in my opinion, gets the credit he deserves and how good he was at the shortstop position throughout his career. But, man, he was awesome with the Cardinals. And because you didn't hear him talk or do much about,

just people kind of glossed over Edgar Renteria on how big he was. You know, among shortstops, he ranked second in Cardinals history in home runs and stolen bases in third and batting average with 1,500 plate appearances minimum. Hits, extra base hits, RBIs. You know, he's third in all of those. He won three Silver Slugger Awards and two gold gloves in six seasons, including both in 2002 and 03, set franchise records for a shortstop with a 330 average and 47 doubles in 2003 to go along with those 13 home runs and 100 RBIs and 34 steals.

Again, one of those guys who've done a little bit of everything, three-time All-Star with the Cardinals, played on four NL Central Division Championship teams. That at 333 in the 04 World Series against the Red Sox, which we all know how that ended, but it was an editor's fault. So those are your nominees. Fans can view the 25 Cardinals Hall of Fame ballot and cast their selections online starting on Saturday,

the 22nd at cardinals.com slash HOF. Now, the modern player votes after fan voting concludes on Friday, April 18th will be selected into the Cardinals Hall of Fame during a ceremony on September the 6th, the full 2025 Cardinals Hall of Fame induction class, which will also include a veteran player chosen by the Red Ribbon Committee and a Cardinals organization selection will be announced in May. Carlton was awesome.

I get it, but most of his best years are with Philly. I love me some Brian Jordan. I love me some silent George, key Cogs, and some very successful teams. but I'm going Red Edgar Rineria again. That's who I wanted last year. I'm going with him again. I think he's highly underrated,

and I think he belongs in a red jacket. But who are you voting for? Let me know your thoughts on Eric Fetty. What are your thoughts on him moving into the season? Are you high on him? Are you low on them? What are your thoughts there? What are your impressions with JJ Weatherhole so far at camp?

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