Locked On Cardinals - Daily Podcast On The St. Louis Cardinals - Cardinals Rise From The Ashes To Take Down Milwaukee

Episode Date: August 23, 2024

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What year is this? 1982, the Cardinals, come back to shock the heavily favored Milwaukee Brewers to win the series. Let's get into it. You are locked on Cardinals. Your daily St. Louis Cardinals podcast, part of the Locked on podcast network, your team every day. Hello, I am J.D. Hafford and I'm a national radio sports anchor, born and raised in the Lou, and a Lifetime Cardinals fan. I'm your host for Locktong Cardinals.

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at supplyhouse.com. So a couple of days ago, Chuck and I had a nice conversation about our baseball teams. And then they went out and did kind of the exact opposite of what we thought was going to have. At least I can say that on my side, Chuck. I did not expect the Cardinals to take two of three in this series. They are desperate and they needed to do that. But they went in dramatic fashion on Wednesday night after a super tight game on Tuesday. And then Thursday, shutout win by the Cardinals. Chuck, I did a lot of whining. Okay. I went back. I listened to our episode, did a lot of whining, a lot of crying, a lot of bitching and moaning on behalf of Cardinal Nation as we sit here in sulk after

another tough season. Now, I need you to tell me how the Brewers fans are taking what just happened in this series because me and you were texting back and forth and the Burers fans take things very personal, kind of, hey, into the world after one loss. And now they lost two in a row. How's everybody doing there? I was afraid to go on Twitter. So I didn't after the game.

Sometimes you just want to stay away from Brewers' Twitter. sure Packers Twitter Buck's Twitter in this state because you know we lose a couple of games here in the state and we've been on this road before the Milwaukee Brewers where they've lost three games in a row and it's like people think that the slide is going to happen and I know

after these two in St. Louis it's not like anybody's worried about losing this division because that would take a monumental collapse so much equity but I think fans are always I think there's always that in the back of our minds. Oh boy, because things are going so well. And then, you know, they haven't been hitting.

They scored six runs on Wednesday night. But for the most part, they're scoring two or three runs a game. Didn't score at all on Thursday. So, yeah, I think in the back of our mind as Brewer fans, and as a guy who's covered the team, it's always like, oh, boy, is this on the road for a five or six game skid? And in the terms of the division, okay, they can handle something like that. But not if you're trying to catch the Dodgers and Phillies and avoid that wild card round, which I was telling you the other day, I'm desperately trying to avoid that. Do you guys feel your back in it, or at least the wild card? No, I think we are very realistic about what's going on.

I don't know if you caught any shots of what it looked like in the stands at Bush Stadium over the last three days. they set record lows for attendance, paid attendance, mind you, where they were at like 30,000, and then it was below 30,000 for the first time ever at Bush Stadium 3 when it wasn't like a pandemic-affected game, where they fell under 30,000 tickets sold for the first time in this series. And then it just kind of dipped a little bit each game and was at its lowest, but there was probably half of that maybe. what we were told was there was like around 17.5. We're actually in the stadium for Wednesday night's game.

And I don't even know what the numbers were on Thursday, but day games are kind of tough to figure out. I mean, it's hard to judge that. But still, the fan base has kind of said, we get it. It's over. We're checking out. And they haven't been coming to the games. And so I think as exciting as it was for the Cardinals to specifically Wednesday

night's game was, you know, that was a fun, dramatic walkoff win by Nolan Aronado. You know, that was cool because we haven't had a lot of those moments this year. And then to get the shutout win on Thursday, as nice as they are, I think our fans are smart enough and they understand where they are. I mean, still 10 games back behind Milwaukee in the division as far as the wild card goes. We're still sitting at five, which is not impossible because people are, you know, the positive Cardinal fans have been hitting me up. Remember one of the Braves lost that 10-game lead and the Cardinals snuck in? Oh, yeah. Oh, you know, 11. I was telling you that the other day. Yeah, and I'm like,

I get it. I get it. And I'm going to stay positive, but there's also the realistic side of things. We're like, if that doesn't happen or the Cardals don't go on a 17-game winning streak like they did a couple of years ago, it's really going to be tough to make up enough ground in the wild card to come back and be a part of this playoff conversation. So, we enjoyed it. We thought it was nice. We're not getting overzealous about it. Let's put it but it was fun. We enjoyed it. Walk off Grand Slams by Noah Arnato and seeing some passion in that game. Getting the Lucan Baker home run in that game as well was a big thing. He was somebody they just called up and to face left handers and it just kind of worked perfectly in that game

on Wednesday where he was able to tie it up. But as soon as they did that, boom. the Brewers answer right away. I don't know if it took the wind out of the sales of the Brewers, or they were just tired for the day game on Thursday, but it didn't look like the same team at all on Thursday. The bats were different. It just there didn't seem like it wasn't a lot of energy on the brewer's side of things. Not that there was tons of it on the Cardinals side,

but a little bit more coming off that big victory. Well, I think the offense is somewhat of a concern because it's not consistent enough. And the Brewers go through these things. And I feel like they're going through one now since last Saturday night. They're going through one of these freezes. And I'm hoping and Brewer fans better not think, all, all right, they got Oakland on tap. Because Oakland's going to give them some problems. Oakland's giving a lot of teams problems.

I think people think going into Oakland or replay the A's is just going to be, they're just going to lay down. They got some talent, even though they made some trades, they got some talent over. over there. And they're not, their record isn't flashy, but they're going to play a spoiler and they're going to play hard. They swept the Brewers at three games series. This is not going to be easy. I'm worried about going into those three games with Oakland this series. But pitching was there. It's funny, though, in this series, you said the Brewers heavily favored. In actually two of the three games, the Cardinals were favored in this game. Were they really? The Cardinals were favored on the betting line Tuesday. They were favored

Wednesday, the Brewers were a slight favor today because of Freddie Peralta. Buddy of mine, who I like to talk out of him out of his bad bets, because he likes to go against the Brewers when things are going, when he senses things are going bad. So he calls me up on his way down to make a bet at the casino, and he says, I'm betting against the Brewers today, and I've talked him out of a majority of the time. Wednesday night, he says, you know what, they're not winning seven in a row. And sure enough, they did. And then he calls me back again today.

He goes, I'm going right back. down there. They're not going to beat the Cardinals again. They're going to bounce back. I think the Brewers. So I've been wrong. Usually I'm pretty good at reading these brewers, but I was wrong in the last two days. I thought the Brewers would, you know, keep it rolling a little bit. But again, credit the Cardinals, man. They play baseball too.

One guy on your team, and I kind of took it to Twitter, how does Kittredge get anybody out? J.D., I feel like he, when I see him on the mound, he's like a position player going out there just taking the ball yeah like just trying to throw it i'm like this guy's stuff isn't anything how are how are people just not crushing this guy yeah i always i always said he has the uh the wind up of like a dad throwing wiffle ball to his kids where he looks like he could be holding a beer in the left hand and then the wiffle ball on the right and just kind nonchalantly he just kind of whips it in there and he's got he's got some good movement on that sinker

and that's really his go-to pitch. I mean, you guys were still able to score off him, so I guess he couldn't have been all that good and impressive. But yeah, he's got, he's very relaxed. I remember the first time I saw him and I'm like, oh my gosh, I could see him in like some cutoff jorts. And just like a, like a, you know, a tank top, throwing the, doing the same thing out in the backyard to somebody.

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You get your podcast, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. Jady Haffron from Locktown Cardinals, Chuck Freeman, from Lockedon Brewers. It's time for the Say Nice Thing segment, Chuck. and this is where we tell each other nice things about the other team. All right? And despite the fact that, you know, the Cardinals took two of three, you got to be nice. And you got to say a couple of nice things about either what happened in the game, a certain player.

Maybe it's something that happened during the game outside of actually play on the field. Whatever you want to say that is nice, Chuck, you get to go first. So things that stood out in the series that made you say, you know what, that was good. You're up, buddy. What do you want to say? I like the arch. I think it looks pretty cool back there. I love the arch. It is cool back there. I love John Rudy, Newtpar, I think. I think Newt bar is, even though he's sitting with 2.30 or so, I think Newpar, don't give up on him. He's got still got a lot of talent. Wouldn't quite give up on him just yet. Dylan Carlson's a little bit of mystery. I wouldn't give up on him. He's got the 19 home runs. I still would not give up on him.

Nolan. Nolan. Dylan Garman. Dylan Carlsson got trade. Oh, Nolan. Gorman. Sorry. Gorman's who you're talking about. Yeah, Nolan Gorman, yeah, Nolan Gorman, who struck out the end of the game the other night. Nolan, I wouldn't give up. I'd give up on Dylan Carlson, but not Nolan Gorman. He's in Tampa Bay. We don't care what's happening to him anymore. I don't know why I got, so those are the guy.

I think, you know, it's been a down year for your team, which no one's going to cry for the Cardinals, as you know. Yeah, they sure. You know what? It's the offseason, and I think, you know, you were telling me the other day that maybe this is kind of a wake up call for the front office, they need to get going a little bit. Yeah, seeing the empty stadium is, I mean, when there's no butts in the seats and you're hurting the wallet of the

ownership, then usually that's kind of when change is going to happen. You know, it's, we're tired of mediocrity over the last couple of years and, you know, maybe ownership just needs a kick in the pants. And hopefully seeing all of those empty red seats will be an awakening for them. We'll find out. I don't know if it'll work or not, but at least the voices of the fans are kind of being being heard here about like, hey, we're not interested in watching what you got out there right now. Well, what do you say? Like 17,000 fans were there.

Remember, some of those fans are Brewers fans too. It's true. It's true. I got a text from some people, though, because they had read that. And they were like, you know, how many franchises would kill to have 30,000 sold on a Tuesday? And you guys are crying about it. I'm like, I know, I get it, but at the same time, it's weird for St. Louis to do that. That's not normal.

Nope. You guys have set a standard, a certain bar, and that should be the bar. You shouldn't have to lower the bar. Yeah, I agree. I applaud the fans, man. You know, it's your money. You decide what you want to do with it. You don't like the product on the field.

By all means, don't go. I don't blame you whatsoever. All right. I'm going to say something nice about you guys, because there was a lot of things. and going back and forth with some of the Locktown Cardinals fans on Twitter, where we all kind of recognized a few things that were really nice about the Brewers. One thing, first off, the defense. Defense is so impressive.

And I, you know, they robbed Newbar of a home run in Thursday's game, but it just seems like they are so well positioned, like almost every single time, especially in that game on Tuesday. If there was a line shot that the Cardinals hit and got good wood on the ball, right at somebody. They were right there or within a couple of steps and it's such an athletic team defensively that the brewers are fielding, which is going to make things really, really tough. You guys keep the ball in the ballpark. It's going to make it really,

really tough for other teams to put runs on the board against you guys. So what do you guys feel like is the key to the defense that makes you guys as good as you are at it? Because I came away from that going, gosh, I remember those old Cardinal teams used to look like that. Well, the Brewers are very strong from third to second. Reese Hoskins has been playing well defensively. Made a nice stretch tonight, I think, or this afternoon I was on a play that was, the call was reversed at first base. But second base, Terang, rock solid, A plus defender.

Domus, Rock plus, A plus defender, rock solid at shortstop. Same with Ortiz over third base. So, yeah, the Brewers have got speed, team, speed and athleticism. And Yellich not being out there in left field, I think, I know it sucks losing his bat, but defensively, I mean, you guys are covering a lot of ground

out there. Sure, sure. And Yellich could run. He can. He can. He runs like a deer. I mean, he just takes him two strides and he's halfway across the diamond. So, yeah, they miss, they do miss Yelich in the middle. And like times like this, when the offense is bogged down,

they could use a bat like Yelich in the middle of the lineup. Because I feel like The third place spot in the lineup right now is kind of a big hole with these guys. But they are an athletic team. They're a good team. It's just a matter of are they good enough to win a World Series? Well, you've got about six weeks to figure that out because, you know, they're pretty sure. They're going to the playoffs.

Another thing that stood out to me, I guess this is turning them in. I just want to say nice things about you guys. I am so impressed with the abats you guys take. that was something I could not take my eye away. The amount of foul balls that the brewers, and I don't know if this is normal for every series, but at least in this one, exhausting. I mentioned you said that on the podcast.

I mentioned on yesterday's podcast that you would text me and send that, J.D. I mean, my gosh, dude, it's like they don't chase very often. They don't strike out a lot. And they constantly are battling, just fouling balls off. And, you know, even, and they're not trying to do too much with the pitches where I see like, and a guy that stands out to me that does this a lot. It's just kind of his nature is Wilson Contreras. His first swing normally is just like I'm trying to hit it to the arch.

Like it is as hard as he can to see how far he can hit it. And I don't get that a lot out of the brewer's hitters. Like, you know, if they see a meatball, yeah, they're going to swing hard at it. But it looks like they're always just trying to just hit the ball hard. They don't care where it goes, whether it's down the line and left, opposite field, you're trying to put it in a gap. They don't care. It's not about that. They're just constantly just trying to put it where you aren't.

And it was like wild because in that game on Tuesday, it's not like the Brewers were smashing the ball all over the park, but they were constantly just putting it in where, you know, they were, it was just beautiful hitting. And it was just their approach, all of it, very impressive, like watching them, when the other night on uh on wednesday night they're up six four and back-to-back hitters are threatening to put down bunts they tried to bond a couple of years like the cardals would never do such a thing like this and uh you know in the brewers they're just like no no we're willing to whatever it takes to get on base we'll do it yeah stealing bases bunting guys over this is something they did not do under Craig counsel but they're doing it under pat

Murphy playing that small bar, small ball, getting on, getting him over, getting him in. That's what it takes to win ballgame sometimes. You know, just sitting back and waiting for that three run, home run. I just never liked that way. I list like, you know, producing runs and then lean

on your pitching staff a little bit. But that way of playing hasn't worked here in the last four or five days, but hopefully it always seems to turn around. The Brewers Office, I don't know if you, maybe because I just watch the Brewers every day, but is it with your team, like some days, though, just like, go, through a stretch, J.D. where five or four or five days throw, they're the 27 Yankees.

And then they come back and it's like they're the 62 Mets a couple of days later. No, the Cardals have never. Not this year, not this year. You might have one game where everybody kind of goes crazy, but very, very seldom did that happen this year for the Cardals, which has been kind of the problem where it's been a lot of scoring two runs, two runs, three runs, three runs. And then you get like a six. And you're like, who, here we go.

We're going to heat up right, right back to one, back to two. Like it's just, it's been very inconsistent most of the year. And I feel like it's a, if our team, if the Cardinals approach was more like the Brewers, where we weren't relying on the home run, which has been something the Cardinals have done a lot this year. Like there was a stat about in the second half of the season so far, nobody has relied on the home runs to score their runs. more than the Cardinals who don't have like 40 home run dudes in their lineup. That's a problem.

That's a problem. Like you got to figure out different ways to score runs. They kind of did it on Thursday, which was nice to see where, you know, got a couple of hits from Victor Scott the second. You saw him steal a base here and there, a couple of blue pits here and there. Like it wasn't all about the home run. And they looked like a more rounded baseball team when they looked that way. So I hope they can do more of that.

to be honest with you. Well, you guys looked like a playoff team last two nights. You really did. Thursday afternoon, the terrific pitching. You know, coming from behind battling a couple of times. You were down by two runs and you battle. And that's credit the, you know, we like to as Brewer fans look at, oh, our team blew this lead.

But you got to credit that, you know, you guys battled. And then, you know, you went against, you battle against Devin Williams and you got the job done with great at bats in the eighth inning and not swinging at garbage pitches. and then in the tempting, you know, getting guys out, getting that guy courtesy runner, of course, is free. But the rest of the guys on, and then on a one-two count, Aronado goes Yotsie, and that's the ball game right there. So I'm glad you brought that moment up real quick. I'm going to put a picture up on the screen.

And I don't know if you saw this during the Aronado at bat, this young man. This is another thing that we had that you didn't in this game. What's he, what's this about? this is who cares he's a shirtless fan smashing a bud light still while watching the aronado at that and i took this photo and i put it on twitter i was like this guy's not giving up yeah and two pitches later natto hits it over the wall so we're calling this our rally shirtless guy okay and uh we're hoping he's behind the plate more often in the future needs something to build on but i've seen that picture around a little bit on the on social media

on Wednesday. I thought it was pretty cool. Yeah. Look at him. He's just there having a good time. He's ready for football season. That looks more like a Packers fan or a Battlehawks fan for the same. Yeah. Then it does a baseball fan.

And those are the, you know, the rich people seats behind home plate. Like, you know, those are the guys normally in polos and super white shoes. And he was breaking all the laws. And there he is. There he is. So that was another thing. you guys didn't have for you in the series. So the power of the rally shirtless guy.

So maybe get one of those in Milwaukee. I bet you could find a few. I've seen them before in Milwaukee. I've seen it. He's been at Brewer games before. Sure. I'm not sure we want to go down that road to see that every game. I tell you what road we are going to go down, Chuck.

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All right, we talked about what the fans are thinking. What do you think is the effect that this series will have on the Milwaukee Brewers moving forward? Considering coming into the series, you owned the Cardinals. And now you come away and you've lost two in a row to them. What do you think the team's feeling on this one and how will they react to what just happened? Well, the Brewers have these t-shirts that Pat Murphy made for them a few weeks ago called Undaunted. Undaunted. And that's what these guys are.

These guys seem to take every punch. They might go through a little bit of a slide. They had a three-game skid a week ago. And then they won the final two games against the Dodgers, swept Cleveland, won the first game in St. Louis. So we just got to chill out. I think they'll chill out. They'll move out in the Oakland. There's no off day here.

coming off the getaway day, and I think they'll be just fine. But Oakland is going to give them a battle. It's not going to be easy. San Francisco is going to be here next week. It's a tough August schedule for the Milwaukee Brewers. So no shame. No shame at all losing the St. Louis Cardos. And I was looking at, I did take a look at Twitter,

and some people thought the Brewers were just going to blast through this series. No, even though I said earlier, don't bet against the Brewers, it was not going to be easy. The Cardinals were just not going to lay down and die for the Milwaukee Brewers. So if Brewer fans thought that, they had another thing coming. But that was something that our manager, Ali Marmel said after the game on Tuesday, which was an excellent ball game. You know, there's a tight game the whole time and the Brewers came out on top.

And that was one thing he said. He was like, look, we know, I mean, they had the bases loaded. They had it all set up, man. They had their big guns. and Goldie and Gorman coming up. Base is loaded, one out, and back-to-back strikeouts by Devin Williams. And, you know, they're like, is this it? You know, is this going to devastate the guys to no end where this is where they really fall apart again?

And he's like, no, he's like, it's going to be a tough climb to get to the wild card against the playoffs. We get that. But we are not going to quit. These guys are not quitters. They're working as hard as they can. They know that the results aren't where they need to be, but we're not quitting. nobody here is quitting, so don't expect it. And there was an bet that Aeronado had, I think it was Wednesday night, stretched kind of a single.

He could have taken a lazy single there, but he stretched it into a hustling double. And I don't remember what inning that was. I think it was toward the end of the game. But, you know, one of those things. And here's a guy who's got a guaranteed contract. I thought, man, legging that out on a team that, you know, you might argue is not going anyplace. But legging that out and stretching the double, I thought that said a lot right there to me. It does, especially when you, like you mentioned, Arnado, a veteran like that.

And, you know, and we saw Paul Goldschmidt doesn't do a lot of media, but we, they talk to him after the strikeout on, on Tuesday night and how disappointed. And it's like voice is cracking because he's just, he's so upset about it. And that's one thing, you know, fans get upset. This guy sucks. You know, why is he playing? Blah, blah, blah, blah. They know that they're going through a tough time. It's not like they don't care.

Like these guys really do care. They interview Aronado, we have to walk off Grand Slam on Wednesday night. And they're like, that had to feel good. He's like, I know that I have not done a good job this year. And he's like, and all I can do is keep plugging away. And, you know, today was a good day. You know, and this was nice and this was a great feeling. We needed it.

And that's the one thing about it is like a lot of these guys, we love them as players. And it's unfortunate that the performance has lived up to what we thought it was going to be this year. But, you know, you give them credit for going out there and playing hard. and showing up each and every day and doing the best they can. And maybe they're just not a good team. You know, maybe that is just the way it is. It's not, it's not motivation. It's not the manager's fault.

Maybe the guys, it's just not a good team. And that happens. You said Goldschmidt doesn't do a lot of media. He's not talking to the media after games. He's doing one of those things. He's just a quiet guy. He doesn't do a lot of interviews after any games. And that was the thing is like, oh my gosh,

he's going to talk to us after one of his toughest impacts of the year. And people why wonder why MLB, has got because you never see that in the NFL or the in the NBA, but you see it major league baseball still, some of these guys. They don't want to talk to the media and they don't want to get out there. And they don't want to go hide in the trainer's room. But he's the same too,

even when he won the MVP and he was cream with the ball. He was still not the guy that, you know, to go for the sound bite after a game. Like he's just. He's the franchise, though, right now. I agree with that. Now, well, and then as far as the Cardinals going on into the future, we get to go to play another playoff team.

Chuck, we're off to go see. the Minnesota Twins. Oh, okay. Have you guys faced them this year? Played them a couple of times. One, two games up there right after the All-Star break. Played two games up there and split with them. Twins are actually here on opening day for the Brewers.

So way back in April, split a two-game series here. One, two games out there right after the All-Star break. And I was like, man, here we go. But, you know, the twins play good baseball. They're a good team. And that's not going to be an easy series. It played in an open-air stadium, which I never would have guessed why Minnesota would have a stadium.

It'll be a fun series. But if you have, you know, in August like this, it's okay, a long as you don't have a rainstorm moving in. Right, right. Well, it should be interesting because, you know, it's just another test for the Cardinals. You know, I mean, if you're going to squeeze into this thing, you're going to have to beat the good teams.

because I've got a lot of them lined up here for the rest of August. You will have Andre Palante on the mound on Friday, and then it's Sunny Gray back at his old stomping grounds of Minnesota on Saturday against Pablo Lopez. So that should be a pretty cool pitching matchup. But, you know, the cardals are going to be up there for three games. And you get Eric Fetty on Sunday. And, you know, the same mindset going into this series against the Brewers. These teams on paper are better than you right now.

But if you can catch a streak, which they were able to get two in a row here against Milwaukee, these were big wins, you know, psychologically. I think they were big wins to finally beat the Brewers. I mean, they only had one win against them so far this year. So to get them, to get them twice, you know, maybe that, as when I said earlier, a kick in the pants for ownership, maybe it was a kick in the pants for the players. and they'll kind of come together now that they've gotten a little taste of winning. I think if the Brewers would have swept this series,

if they would have won on Wednesday and somehow won on Thursday, and swept St. Louis, I think that would have really decimated Cardinals. The Cardinal fan base for sure. That would have been, all right, we're benching all the veterans, bring all the kids up time where there's, we don't need to see anymore. We've had enough. It's over, turn the light off when you're done. But now, now, man, that's.

they're feeling a little good. They made some roster moves. And, you know, they were able to beat a very, very good Milwaukee Brewers team twice. So why not keep it going and go take them out Minnesota? That's the idea. So, well, we wish the best of luck to you guys in Oakland because we know we're not going to catch you in the division. But, you know, maybe we'll see in the playoffs at some sort. And we still got to play each other one more time in Milwaukee.

We're not done yet. I do. I do not want to see you guys in the playoffs. I'll tell you that. I did in 2011, Jady, when you guys. beat the Phillies and I was doing sports talk in Milwaukee and we were like oh great they beat the Phillies oh we're going to roll right through St. Louis. Louis. You know how that worked. So I never want to see the St. Louis Cardinals in the postseason. Bad things happen to the Brewers.

Well, we're going to see each other one more time in September in regular season and maybe we'll see maybe the Cardinals will be on a roll at that point and it'll actually mean something. So obviously it'll mean something for the brewers who continue to fight for one of the top seeds in the National League. So we will meet up again then and have some conversations. You bet. All right. Thank you guys for making Lockton Cardles and Lockdown Brewers your first listen every day. If you haven't already, give us a follow on Twitter X, both me and Chuck available there. Of course, the podcast are on there as well. Like, subscribe on YouTube to both of our channels. And we'll see each other in the future. Thank you for being a part of this Lockedon

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