Locked On Cardinals - Daily Podcast On The St. Louis Cardinals - Jim Edmonds Doesn't Hold Back In Interview About The Cardinals

Episode Date: February 3, 2025

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Cardinals All of Famer Jim Edmins was quite candid in an interview on Monday discussing him not returning to the broadcast booth in 2025 and how the vibes have changed around the Cardinals organization and not in a good way. This is Locked on Cardinals. You are Locked on Cardinals, your daily St. Louis Cardinals podcast, part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. Hey there, Cardinals. I'm Jody Hafford and I'm your host for Locked on Cardinals. part of the Lockdown Podcast Network covering your team every day. You can follow me on Twitter X at JD Sports Radio. And you can follow the podcast at L0 underscore Cardinals.

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personally with the Cardinals. You can find a link to the interview at 101.1 ESPN.com. It's under their podcast area. You can find them on YouTube as well. I put a link in there for you if you want to go check it out. But if you haven't heard over the weekend, Jimmy is not going to be returning to the broadcast booth during this upcoming season. That word came down. I don't know if Saturday or Sunday. It was this weekend, but in my initial thoughts on that happening was that that it kind of stinks because I'm one of the people who actually enjoyed Jimmy in the booth. And I know there's a lot of people who aren't big fans of his demeanor and how he did things on the air. He's not everybody's cup of tea. Some people think he talks about himself too much. But,

you know, he even brought up house people were, you know, giving him grief about talking about him getting texts from former players and people when he's doing a broadcast, which I had no problems with. I've never had an issue with that whatsoever. I love hearing his stories about his time in St. Louis's interactions with players and coaches. I kind of appreciated his peek behind the curtain type of demeanor on certain things. And of course, I just enjoy hearing him talk about the game of baseball, you know, what his mindset was as a hitter. You know, this is a guy who came up who wasn't a great hitter. when he first started, when he was with the Angels, certainly not,

and developed into one of the better hitters of his era. You know, when he was with the Cardinals, you know, there was that stretch there where he was unbelievable. But he would talk about his mindset in the box, what he's thinking about during certain at bats, what he thinks the pitcher might come with, things like that. I appreciate that stuff. You know, when it comes to, like, the NFL game to hear Tony Romo

and Tom Brady talk about these types of things. of things. You know, that's what I like to hear. I like to hear the inside of what they're feeling as a former quarterback, just like I like hearing about Jim Edmonds as a former all star and a slugger there in a silver slugger winner in the box. His thoughts on defense, obviously, one of the great defensive center fielders of all time in the game of baseball and why he did things a certain way and why he would always play shallow and how he could relate what he would be doing to what the Cardinals were doing on the field that day. Why is Jordan Walker taking that particular round? Or what is he liking about what Michael Siani is doing out there in center or Victor Scott? I dig that stuff. That's a, that's a perspective that you can't get from a lot of color analysts because they didn't do it at the level that Jim Edmonds did it. You know, there's people that, you know, they were their former players and they can give you their opinions and stuff, but didn't do it at the level. Jimmy Edmonds used to do it at. And, you know, he's a guy who's borderline Hall of Fame worthy. They talked about that in the

interview. You know, four-time All-Star, eight-time gold glove winner, won the World Series with the Birds in 06, almost 400 career home runs. Will he get in? Will they vote him in at some point? I don't know, but the dude was, he was awesome for like a four or five-year stretch with the Cardinals and really took off what he got to St. Louis when they acquired him from the Angels, just a highway robbery type of deal. And I got nothing respect but respect for what Jimmy does. And I appreciate it. what he did in the booth. And I'm sad that he won't be back because I liked hearing his insight. And he explained that before his bosses even called him about coming back for this year, he had already decided that he probably wasn't going to return. So in a way, you can say it

was an amicable split. They were like, you know, I think we're going to go in a different direction. He's like, yeah, I didn't really want to come back anyway. He explained this. You know, I'm going to paraphrase here because I'm going to give you exact quotes. but, you know, he explained that he was just tired of listening to the critics. He was tired of guessing if he, he's doing the right thing or not. And he had just had enough. And, you know, you would hear it like, you know, you see it on Twitter X and stuff where people would be like, oh, Jimmy's saying this, do you mean, he just, you know,

he got tired of hearing the noise. He's like at this point in his life, he doesn't really need that, you know. He wants to be a dad and he's living in Tennessee with his family and he's, you know, he's trying, he's enjoying that. rather than having to, you know, do broadcast stuff. You know, we talked about how the broadcasting side of things were total chaos. You know, people didn't know where they were supposed to be. The mics didn't work.

Replay wouldn't work. TVs didn't work. It's stuff that all of us who are in media or if you've ever been in media at all, get annoyed with each and every day. It's the same stuff. Trust me. We all have gone through it. if you've been in radio, TV, broadcasting of any sorts.

I've been in it for two decades. This stuff happens no matter what company you're with. It doesn't matter. All of this crap happens all the time. Constantly issues on the technical side of things. And it becomes really frustrating as the person who is behind the mic or on the camera because the fingers always get pointed at you. You know, the listeners and fans, they don't know who the engineers and the producers and stuff

are that are doing the behind the scenes work. which is extremely important stuff that I have no idea how they make certain things work. But those are the guys who are taking care of that stuff. And when things go bad and when things sound funny or they look funny or they sound and look weird, they just kind of point the finger at the air talent as if we're the ones who are controlling it and screwed up. We're the ones who hit a certain button and messed it all up. And it's not the case normally.

So it's a little frustrating. So I understand his aggravation with that side of things and how that can get. old real quick. I get it. Plus, with baseball, you know, you've got to travel the way it is, him being away from his family and stuff. It's not an easy gig. It's not an easy gig. So that was part of it. Then he continued saying that it's just not the same anymore and how it took a toll on the, on the fun part of it, which led the morning show to ask him, you know, why? Why isn't it fun to be at the ballpark these days? And again, I'm going to paraphrase here. And you can, can find the whole interview in its fullness at 101 ESPN.

But he just said it's not fun anymore, that they don't make you feel like you're wanted being around the stadium. And before you start blaming people, he immediately says that I love Ali, respect for the DeWitts and Mo and that everybody is great. But somehow, and he says indoors and the inner circle, it's just not the same. it's not the same organization and it's not fun to be around. And if you're an everydayer of locked on cardinals, have you been with me the last couple of years? You've heard me kind of bring stuff like this up before where outside of like the random walk off home run or hit,

the emotion of the guys in the dugout is almost robotic. It's like they're not playing a game and having fun. Like it's just like, it's just got to be business. and there's just nothing. You know, it looks like there's no joy in the dugout on certain games. And I know that there are different personalities for different people. You know, Goldie superstar, right? MVP in the National League, but he's a very quiet guy.

You know, he does interviews here and there, but that's not him. That's not his personality to be boisterous and outgoing. Where Lars Neubar is clearly a more outgoing type of personality, Wilson Contreras. He shows fire and emotion during games. Strikeouts when he's behind the play. We'll see what he does at first base now. But when he's getting hits or whatever, you know, he shows that emotion a lot where Nolan Gorman is more of a laidback guy. You know, it's one of the reasons why that I brought up, you know, seeing Jordan Walker be more outgoing at winter warm up was a really nice surprise.

And I'm so glad that he's starting to kind of break out of that shell because I feel like he's got personality, but that he's held it back the first couple of years because, you know, he is a kid amongst a lot of adults, you know, as young as he was when he first got here into St. Louis. So he's probably like, you know, I'm going to just kind of stay out of the way and kind of take care of myself. And, you know, I wonder if that has an effect on how things go on the field. When you can't be yourself, I'm sure it affects you in different ways. Back to the Edmund's interview, once again, on 101 ESPN, the morning after, TMA. is what they call themselves.

If you haven't listened to them, be sure to check them out. But in this interview, we talked about the atmosphere being different with the Cardinals. He said you can feel the tension. The players are different. The guys are different. The clubhouse guys are too busy to talk to you. They're too busy running around doing stuff. And we talked about how the sport has changed and how sports in general has changed.

And it's just not the way it was, the way things operate. rated when Jimmy and the guys were here. And my thoughts on that when he started mentioning it and how, you know, guys are different and there's attention that's in their locker room. And my thoughts go to like winning helps with that, right? You know, the lack thereof winning has probably a lot to do with what's going on with that feeling that you get in a clubhouse with the Cardinals right now. I'm sure you've seen Moneyball, you know, if you're a baseball fan and you're listening to

baseball podcast. I'm sure you've seen the movie Moneyball. And you've got that one scene where the A's lost again. And Jason Gianbi is dancing on the table. Is it Jason or Jeremy? It's Jason. Whichever one. You're a good ball player. Maybe it's Jeremy. Anyway, Jeremy's the one that's on the table. I'm pretty sure. Anyway, point being, you know, it's the little brother, not the superstar version. And he's dancing on the table. After another loss, Billy walks in, he hears the music. And he's like, what the comes in, smashes the radio with the baseball bat and asks, is losing fun? Then what are you having fun for? And when you're not winning, the game isn't fun. Like, it's kind of miserable. Most games aren't fun when you're losing. It doesn't

matter what you're playing, whether it's video games, whether it's a board game, whatever game it is when you keep losing, it becomes not fun anymore, especially when you're ultra competitive, which most people at the major league level are. That's how they got there. And leadership has something to do with that. You know, the biggest names in the room for the Cardinals last couple of years have been Paul Goldsmith and Eleanoranato. Sonny Gray was added to that mix last year. And just those three people, if you just think about them, they are well known to be very meticulous, very hard on themselves, take everything very, very seriously.

they put a lot of pressure on themselves. And nobody has to tell them when they've had a bad game. Like they feel bad. They're mad at themselves that they've let their team down, let their teammates down, let the fans down, the city down. Like you hear it in their voices. And you've heard it over the last couple of years where it wears on these guys, you know, that their numbers aren't where they want them to be.

And they know that that's a big reason why the cardos aren't winning more baseball games. So their body language. You can just, you can tell. You can just tell. And perhaps that kind of vibe spreads and, you know, has an effect on the clubhouse mood as well. When your leaders are all mad at themselves, it's going to put kind of a tense mood in that clubhouse. And losing does that. You know, I'm not trying to sit here and point fingers that it's their fault.

I'm just saying that losing or not. losing overall has that effect. It affects those guys, which affects these guys. And, you know, it's that domino effect. So that's where some of that, in my opinion, probably comes from. Now, where things got a little more interesting in this interview is what Jimmy had to say about how the alumni is being treated and how they feel about things these days. And this was a bit shocking to me. So we'll delve into that portion of the interview next on Lockdown Cardinals. Super Bowl 59 is here, one game, two teams, endless possibilities, and there's no better way to make every play more exciting than with Fandall's

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Anytime you want your feedback is always welcome and encourage. Of course, I'm sure we're going to get a lot of voices on their feelings towards what Jim Edmund said in this interview. Again, he was on the morning show on Monday morning, on 101 ESPN with the morning after. The guys obviously have a good relationship with Jimmy because he was called in. He even talked about how he's got some issues with the post dispatch and this and that. And there's like a 45 minute interview and it was really good. And I enjoyed every second of it.

But there was some things in there that you're like, man, is this really happening? This is what's going on. You know, I was curious about, I just thought he was going to talk about why he wasn't coming back to the booth in 2025, which he addressed. and we talked about already. But he opened up even more about clearly the discontent intention that's going on in the locker room, how he wasn't having fun as a broadcaster anymore,

and how things have changed around the Cardinals organization in recent years, not only in the clubhouse with what's going on with the current players, but what's going on with the alumni as well. And this part caught me off guard a bit because, you know, we've always been told how much this organization appreciates, former players, their alumni, former coaches, former managers, former players. They want them around, you know. They want them coming down to spring training and helping and teaching the current players

and being a part of all of this and continuing the tradition and blah, blah, blah, blah. And apparently, at least in Jimmy's eyes, that is not the case. That is not the case anymore. He specifically said that since COVID, that things are just weird and that they are aware as a group, He's talking about the alumni that they aren't really wanted around there anymore. And I was like, what? Since when? I thought that was the whole thing.

And it's like this open door policy with the Cardinals. You played for us. You won with us. You're always welcome. You know, come on in. Bring your red jacket. You know, come on down. We want to see you guys at the ball games and stuff.

And I always took pride in that as a Cardinals fan that that was something that I thought they had. And he said in this interview, and again, paraphrasing here, There's going to be exact quotes, but he said the Cardinals don't invite them down there anymore, which I'm talking, I think he's talking about just the ballpark in general. He says it's a totally different atmosphere and make him feel that they aren't appreciated, not wanted. We don't need your help. He reiterated that he has respect once again for the people.

And he continuously said, you know, Ali, the DeWitts and Mo never said anything negative about them personally. He's like, the people are great. but he said that something is different as a whole, that the players feel it, the alumni feel it, and that it's just different and not as much fun. And he brought that up, although he didn't name his name,

but they played this little game. He's like, I'll say you this story. The guy that plays third base for the card, he's not going to say his name, but he's from California and they all had a big laugh about it, but obviously he's talking about Nolan Aronado. And he said that Nolan Aronado asked for permission to see if Mark McGuire could come down to spring training to help out with hitting.

And the Cardinals said, no, we have everything we need. And to hear stuff like that, it's just, it's very disheartening as a fan. You know, if there was something that, you know, in this point of their, the, where we are with the, with the team and the winning and stuff, where we're in a low point at the moment, if there was something that we thought the Cardinals could hang their hat on is that they embraced the tradition. of the organization. They're always doing bobbleheads and giveaways about past stuff. Like, hey, remember on this day when this happened

and this and that? And they're always bringing up the past and how great it was and trying to get you those feelings from back then. And they make it seem like that they would be bending over backwards to make the alumni feel comfortable and feel like family, especially at a time like this where they're not winning like we're used to to see the familiar

faces of the guys that were here when they were winning in L. Central Championships and National League Penance and taking home a lot of hardware and all that. You would think you would want those people around more often. And according to Jimmy in this interview, that's not really the case. And we've heard it all before, you know, opening day, oh, it's so special, with all the stars from yesteryear, returning each year and how magical it seems. And here's Jimmy, one of the great cardinals of all time. He's in your Hall of Fame saying that from his point of view, it's not like that anymore. And he again, he said since COVID, he's noticed it and he even said that, you know, maybe COVID was that chance for them to kind of pull the plug on doing

as much stuff as they used to. He made references to how cool it was that, you know, when he was a player and he would have, you know, Bob Gibson and Lou Brock and Nausee Smith around. And, you know, now that some of them are gone, you know, Bob and Lou have passed away and, you know, Stan Musial is gone. Red Chene East is gone. And now that these guys aren't around anymore, that things are just not the same. And again, this is Jimmy's personal perspective on things. And maybe not everyone will feel the same, you know, as far as other alumni, maybe they're, they're like, well, you know, he's kind of all face. They may feel differently.

But if Jimmy feels this way and he's around the club more than anybody, you know, because he was working in the broadcast booth. I mean, I'm guessing that some other people feel that way as well. He talked about Chris Carpenter, one of my favorite cardinals of all time, about how, you know, he's doing work with the angels. He's not doing it with the Cardinals. It was just kind of enlightening to hear him saying. these things. And then you start to think back about, you know, Matt Holiday was going to be the bench

coach. And then he stepped away, decided, you know, he wasn't ready to do that yet. You know, he still had, you know, he wanted to see his other son continue to go and, you know, develop and, you know, that was, seemed like it was more of a family thing. But maybe something, part of this had something to do with that. That he was just kind of like, I don't know. I don't feel the same about it. You know, last year. Yaddy and Molina. So it was supposed to show up and be a part of things. And that never came to fruition. And it makes me question, you know, if these guys are staying away, whether or not this organization is rotting from the inside out and have been for a while. And it's just that some of us, and I'm talking about myself personally, maybe I've just been a little bit blind to it.

You know, I always see the Cardinals in a good light and think of them that way. You know, this is my team. This is my squad. I do this for a living. I talk about them and love them. But, and I, you know, you don't want to see the ugliness that's going on. Sometimes you can be blind to that. And maybe that's something that has happened to me. And maybe it's happened to you if you're listening to this. And now this kind of opens our eyes a little bit to think about the deeper problems that may be going on within this organization. And I don't know how they're going to turn things around. but it was a little shocking to hear that. You know, this is not the Cardinals I grew up on.

This is not what I used to hear about them. This is a shell of the organization I've been around my entire life, you know, and this is something that has been going on at different levels. You know, the minor leagues and their development, we know that has been a problem that they fell behind the rest of the league and how they do things down there. and they're finally putting some attention towards that this year. Good.

Beyond field since, you know, I mean, that year, it took a magical run for Albert Poolels to get him into the playoffs in his final year in 2023. The year before that, they had that crazy winning streak when they went 17 in a row. That's how they were able to get in. So, you know, it's been trending in the wrong way for a while. And now we're here and now we're hearing that they're treating guys who used to be here when, you know, the best of times for some of us who, you know, weren't around in the in the 70s and 80s, you know, the years of Albert and Roland and Edmonds and with Larry Walker being on the team and Chris Carpenter and yadi and all them together. You know, those are my golden years of thinking about the Cardinals.

I'm like, those were the greatest times. and to hear that they're not treating them well now for whatever reason, that's messed up. And I can't say I agree with such things like that. And it's very disappointing, very disappointing. And again, before we start pointing fingers, because I know people are going to say, well, it's because of Olly, get rid of them. It's because of Mo. You've got to get rid of him.

The DeWitt should sell the team. Jim Edmonds made it a point in this interview. a couple of different times where he's like, I love Ali and I respect the duets and Mo and he was making it. Like, I'm not saying it's their fault. I'm not pointing the finger of them that they're doing it and it's their fall. He wasn't blaming them individually. Not in the slightest.

But he just kept saying that there's like this aura around the stadium, the team of the organization that's just really, really weird right now. And we're all feeling it. We all know something's off. He's like, there's something off, and I don't know how to put my finger on it, what's going on. We know what his fans. Fans are telling you, we know it because they're not showing up at games. We know something's up.

So, again, winning usually cures any sort of problems like this, but it seems like it's much worse than what we thought on just on the surface where, oh, no, we're not winning 90 games a season. It appears there's a deeper issue going on right now. And I hope they get it figured out. I hope they get it figured out. Maybe we'll hear more about this as time moves on. But just a crazy interview. Again, 101 ESPN is where you can go to listen to it in its entirety. News and notes from around the league, including a former Cardinal Ace,

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Find locked on MLB on YouTube or wherever you listen to your podcasts. All right. Jack Flaherty, Captain Jack or Joker Jack, whatever you want to call him these days. He's back. He's going to be pitching for the Detroit Tigers, where he began the turnaround last season. He and the Tigers have agreed to terms on a two-year, $35 million contract that includes an opt-out after this coming season. The deal will pay Flaherty $25 million this year.

And then that includes a $10 million player option for 20-26. They would increase to $20 million if he makes at least 15 starts this season. So a big raise for Jack. Teams clearly were not sold completely on what Jack did last year. They were like, well, that's one year where you stayed healthy and things got better. Can you do it again? I'm pretty sure Jack was hoping he was going to get a three to five year deal and really cash in, but it didn't work out. The Dodgers made it known that they were going to move on as soon as they got Blake Snell and Roki Sasaki.

The writing was kind of on the wall there. They got Shohei coming back to be able to pitch this year. Yamamoto's back. Kirsch. They got 150 different pitchers to choose from. So you kind of knew that was it going to happen. And the market, I guess it just didn't form the way he hoped. And now he gets to return.

to a spot where, you know, he was quite comfortable and quite good in 2024. He went 7 to 5 and that 2.95 ERA and 18 starts. One of those against the Cardinals where he absolutely shoved and made the Cardinals hitters look so foolish in Detroit. It was embarrassing. It was the ultimate revenge game for Jack. Although the Cardinals ended up winning that game later on, but it wasn't because Flaherty did anything wrong.

But he and the Cy Young Award winner, it's Eric Scoobel, going to be quite a tandem in duo. again in Detroit. The other player that the Tigers are still hoping will come to Detroit is Alex Bregman, who has still, as of right now, let me check the phone. No, nothing. Still has not made a decision on his future. Five teams apparently in the mix, according to reports, you've got the Tigers, the Astros, although over the weekend there's more talk that like the Astros, I don't know if that's going to work or whatever, but Astros apparently still have an offer on the table according to reports, Cubs, Red Sox, and a fifth team that they didn't bring up, but I'm going to assume it's the Yankees who could use some help over at third base as well.

If and when something happens, then maybe something will happen with Nolan Aronado. Still two weeks until camp starts officially for position players. But we'll see. Also, so just in our own division, the Cubs, showing interest and might be a dark horse team and possibly trading for the Padres, Dylan C. which would be like, whoa. Per John Morosi, the Padres are continuing to gauge interest in cease and fellow pitcher Michael King with the idea of adding younger, less expensive talent,

and also creating more payroll flexibility to perhaps add via free agency. The NL Central's been busy. The Cubs have made big moves acquiring Kyle Tucker. They also got Presley from the Astros as well. They traded, that's my dog's ears right there. Sorry about that. But they've made some move. They trading Cody Bellinger away to the Yankees

and landing somebody like Dylan C's would be a monster move for them. The Reds have added a few nice pieces. Brady Singer, Gavin Lux, Jose Trevino. They got Terry Francona. Firing David Bellin have Terry Francona there now. The Brewers traded away. Devin Williams from Esther Cortez. They lost Willie Adamas to free agency.

So you think they might take a step back. But they've been able to keep that thing afloat the last couple of years. So you can't really rule that. out as something's not being good. The Pirates haven't done much. They got Spencer Horwitz. That was their big move from Cleveland. But they still got some nice young pitchers.

Obviously, Paul Skeens is a monster. They bring him back Andrew McCutcheon again. But the Cardinals have done nothing. It's done nothing but watch people walk out the door. And now we're hearing people talking bad about what's going on around the organization itself. So, yeah, that's where we're at right now. Thank you for making locks on Cardinals.

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