Locked On Cardinals - Daily Podcast On The St. Louis Cardinals - Mikolas Makes His 1st Spring Appearance Plus A Recap On How The Cardinals Rebuilt Their Pitching Staff
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How did Miles Michaels look in his spring debut?
Plus, look back at how the Cardinals have rebuilt their pitching staff in one offseason.
All on today's episode of Locked on Cardinals.
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So the Cardinals were in Port St. Lucy again today to face the Mets.
And it was Miles Michaelis, taking the bump for his first start of the spring.
And Miles looked very Miles-esque in his first star.
That's the best way to describe it.
He was quick with the ball.
He was very efficient, gave up a couple of hands.
hits, one that probably should have been caught by Dylan Carlson and Centerfield had some
issues with the sun, but spring training, it's okay. Also got one strikeout. He didn't walk anybody
and did all of that in two winnings of work. The pitch count only reached 27. So in fact,
he actually came up a little short of what he was supposed to do today. So he had to run out to
the bullpen after his start and finish up his work for the day, just kind of part of the whole
spring training experience. And during his post game comments with the media, said he,
felt good today, kept the ball down, and that it was fun to be back out there.
He was charged with a pitch clock of violation and explained it afterwards that they had
switched the buttons around on the pitchcom.
This is according to Miles, and he was looking for curveball on it, hit the wrong
button and instead of forcing something up there, he just took the automatic ball since it was
just a spring training game and all.
John Denton at MLB.com did a story on him and said that in trying to improve from last year's
number where he led the league in hits aloud. We all know about that, that Michaelis was working
especially hard on his slider. Denton wrote, unable to rely on pitching to contact as much with
MLB's restrictions against defensive shifts. Michaelis is trying to make his slider sharper and
tighter so that he can better put away hitters with whiffs. In Tuesday's game against the Mets,
Michaelis threw nine sliders out of 27 pitches. He got swings, but only two misses, both on changeups.
Dinton said one thing that Michaelis might do, as out as this sounds, is not throw as many strikes,
especially when he's ahead in the count.
Dinden wrote, because his command is stellar, his walk rate at 4.5 percent, ranked in MLB's top 4%.
Hitters tend to be more aggressive against him.
One issue in particular was when Michaelis would get two strikes.
He ultimately allowed 89 hits, eight home runs, and a 225 opposing batting average.
both the average and hits were the highest numbers in the major leagues in 2023.
So we know that he was very much a victim of soft contact last year.
I mean, how many times did we hear them talk about soft contact with Miles Michaelis and his start?
So some of the bad luck, some of it, you know, like they're talking about here,
where maybe a little too much of the strike zone when you're ahead in the count, you know,
try to make these guys reach a little bit, you know, don't.
don't make it so easy for them to put the bat on the ball,
then things like soft contact won't happen as often.
As far as the rest of the game went,
Ryan Helsley came in through a shutout inning today,
had one strikeout.
Jojo Romero got tagged by Pete Alonzo for a home run solo shot,
which proved to be the game winner in this one as the Cardinals' bats.
I mean, they couldn't, they didn't muster much of anything today.
Five hits, five hits on the day, get shut out three to nothing.
Now, it wasn't all the starters that were in there, but, you know, you had some big names in there still, Dylan Carlson and Nolan Gorman was in action today.
Alec Burleson had two of the five hits.
One of the guys, Alec Berluson, be one of those guys that now that Brandy Crawford's on the team, is he on the team anymore?
Something we'll end up talking about later this week.
But as far as the offense went today, pretty stagnant, not a lot going on there, not a very exciting game.
Kind of boring, to be honest.
but it was good to see Miles Michaelis pitching well, pitching with confidence, and having some fun while he was out there on the mound as well, which is when Miles is in a good mood and having some fun, that's when you know things are going well.
And he seemed genuinely pleased with everything that happened in today's game. Now, I want to talk more about the pitching staff and how Moe and company were able to rebuild this pitching staff in one off season, something that is not very easy to do. We'll get into it next on Locked on Cardinals.
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Now, when asked his goals about, I should say,
what asked about his goals?
What were the goals this off season?
President of Baseball Operations, John Moseilock, made the statement,
and you've heard this over and over, pitching, pitching, right?
That is all they were focused on.
Gone from the starting rotation last year.
A very good pitcher in Jordan Montgomery, traded to the Texas Rangers.
Jack Flaherty got traded to the Baltimore Orioles.
He's now with Detroit.
Adam Wainwright has retired.
He's now going to play country music for a living.
And he's going to be doing the MLB stuff where he's going to be doing play-by-play and stuff like that, color commentary, whatever his role is going to be.
He's got that going on.
Dakota Hudson, Jake Woodford, they're gone.
They're free agents.
Three-fifths of your rotation.
was gone. So that was the first target for Moe and company, and they didn't waste any time.
They jump on Kyle Gibson from the Orioles and former Cardinal Lancel,
who had been with the White Sox and Dodgers in 2023.
And it left a lot of us shaking our heads, right? Some of us are still shaking our heads.
Like, wait, what? Why do we do this? Because a lot of us thought that the Cardinals were going to make that jump again.
And we do it every year. We think that they're going to go out and spend all this crazy money
and go get the number one star that's available out there like Yoshino, Yamamoto.
an L. Si Young Award winner Blake Snell, who still hasn't signed anywhere.
But that didn't happen.
We've thought about them maybe bringing Jordan Montgomery back.
That hasn't happened.
He hasn't signed anywhere.
And ALSye Young runner-up, Sunny Gray was obviously the target a lot of us wanted.
But at the time, it was just Gibson and Lynn.
And yeah, Gibson won 15 games of the Orioles.
But he also led the AL and hits given up and batting average against.
So you're like, then there was Lance Lynn, fifth in the league and hits given up,
fourth in the league in batting average against led the league at home runs given up with a whopping
44 they're old they're both 36 you know and you're just like what and you're going to add
them to miles michaelis who we just talked about you know he led the league and hits given up
he's 35 years old what is moe doing why is he targeting old guys they get hit a lot that was kind
of the problem here um but it was pointed out that something about them that they like was
the fact that they both wanted to be Cardinals. And that's great and all. But when you're
mapping out a plan to bring the Cardinals back in a World Series contention, most of us
believe they needed at least two pitchers better than Miles Michaelis and maybe one four or five guy.
And instead, Mo goes out and gets two four or five guys to go with Miles and Stephen Mats.
And we're all like, what the hell, man? But something that was brought up that when you first glance
at their stats and stuff, you don't think about.
this, but what kind of men are these guys that are going to be in the clubhouse? Who are they off
the field? This became a very important aspect of the Cardinals' offseason decisions. We found out
that things weren't exactly great in the clubhouse last year, that they needed more leadership.
Paul Goldschmidt and O'Anon Aronado, better leaders by example than being the vocal guys in the
clubhouse. They needed help. They wanted help. They requested help this offseason with that
particular problem. Lance Lynn, we know from his time in St. Louis already, not afraid to speak up.
Kyle Gibson apparently also a very good vocal type of leader with strong work ethic.
These are the things that made these guys attractive to the Cardinals, and they wanted to be in
St. Louis, so they brought him in. I think Gibson is a much better pitcher than people give him
credit for. He's not a superstar, but solid, 15 wins with the O's last year on a very good
Baltimore team.
I was not a huge fan of the lens signing.
I'm hoping for good things.
He seems dedicated. He's in better shape.
I'm just hoping Father Time hasn't caught up with him and he's on the decline that he can't
come back from.
So I hope I'm wrong.
I hope I'm wrong.
But after those signings, panic had set in and then things calmed down because then the
crown jewel of the Cardinals off season was signed a week later when the Cardinals
were able to land one sunny gray.
Right?
And then everybody kind of was like,
we all took a step back and we're like, okay, all right, we got the guy that's going to be the top of the rotation guy.
This was the guy that I wanted the Cardinals to grab the entire time.
I mean, he just screamed Cardinals, right?
Yeah, he's 34, but he's been pretty healthy in recent years,
and he's got that sweeper that's become a dominant pitch over the last few years as well with the Reds and the Twins.
The wind total low, but we know that wind totals don't always paint the whole.
picture. And since he's become a cardinal, Sunny Gray has said and done everything the right way.
There's nothing about anything that he's done that anybody should be complaining about.
From the introductory press conference, when he told us all that he carries a baseball with
him at all times, which what a nerd, right? But how cool is that to be where he is in his life
and his career and still be that guy? He had the great appearance at the winter warm up.
Now it's spring training. He's just been exactly what
this rotation and team needed. Vocal leader, demands excellence, not only when playing in a game,
but also off the field with the mental and physical preparation. He expects a lot of himself.
He expects a lot from his teammates. And he's been quite open about how he and Gibson and Len are going
to hold people in this rotation and on this team accountable for their actions. You know,
his first bullpen session down in Jupiter, everyone stopped to watch because he was just doing it
differently than everybody had ever seen before.
Shouting out the counts,
runner situations,
righty, lefty batter. He and Wilson
Contreras were building
a flow together. They're building
a relationship together.
And it not only impressed the coaches
and the players, but
reporters, the media that
were around there. Like, everybody just
was like, you know, this
this dude is special.
He's wired differently.
He's got laser focus on
almost everything that he does.
One of the great writers for
S.TL Today.com in the post-dispatch,
Derek Gould, talked about how
when he saw
Sunny Gray reading a book, he was doing an
interview with Bernie Miklis, and
it was talking about how he saw Sunday Gray reading a book
in the clubhouse, and how he
was like reading it, but he was reading it
aggressively, like just
focused, and he was just like, you know,
it was just, you just try
not to get in his way.
And that's just,
kind of the way things have been for him and how he's gone about his business since he's become a
cardinal. And we didn't hear a lot about this when he was with the Minnesota twins because he's in
Minnesota. He's in the American League. I don't recall hearing much about this stuff when he's with
the Cincinnati Reds. Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention. But to hear about it and see it
happening with the Cardinals now, I couldn't be more excited to have him as the number one
pitcher on this pitching staff. You know, he, he,
He's got the attitude.
He's got, he's the type of leader that the Cardinals needed and we're looking for.
And he's a hell of a pitcher.
You know, you could be all of those things and be this great guy.
But if you're just kind of mid, not that great.
But he's second in the ALSai Young Award last year.
And people, you know, say that maybe he's not an ace or he's not, he should be a number two, not a number one.
I don't believe in that.
I think he's definitely a top pitcher in all of baseball.
And sure, there are guys that are better than him that, like,
if you were to put a matchup between, say, him and Garrett Cole,
Garrett Cole is going to be favored in that matchup.
A healthy show, Hey, Otani, yeah.
Otani's going to be favored in that matchup.
But there's not a lot of guys where you're like,
oh, he's head and shoulders above Sunny Gray.
There's just not.
I dare you to go find one.
find me one in the NL Central.
You can argue Justin Steele.
We've talked about that before.
He's only done it for a year, really.
Sunny Gray's been doing this for a while.
So I'm excited about it.
Obviously, I'm pro-cardinals,
so I'm hopeful that Lance Lynn is going to be the better Lance Lynn.
The Lance Lynn from 2021, I'm really hoping for that.
So we'll see.
Now, the bullpen is something that,
like I'm excited about Sunny Gray.
The bullpen is something I'm really excited about, though,
because there are so many possibilities.
There are so many possibilities.
We're going to jump into that and how Mo built the bullpen
with a bunch of dudes that most of you don't even know.
So I can understand why you're skeptical.
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This is our bullpen.
But I'm going to, I'm hopefully going to install a little faith into you.
when we talk about the bullpen next.
And I'm going to give you my projected opening day staff.
We'll do that next on Locktown Cardinals.
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So the next thing that needed to be addressed, you've got the rotation,
you got your three guys that are going in with Michaelis and Matt was the bullpen,
which was a disaster last year as well.
Closer Ryan Helsley, stud when he's healthy.
Gets hurt a lot.
It's okay to admit that.
It's just part of it.
But gone were Jordan Hicks.
Off to Toronto now with the San Francisco Giants.
It's going to be a starter.
See how that works out.
The dependable Chris Stratton traded away with the Jordan Montgomery trade to the Rangers.
He's in Kansas City, I believe, now.
The Cardinals wanted more swing and miss stuff in the pen,
and I think my favorite part about this offseason.
and outside of the Sunny Gray signing
was the approach that Mo had
at rebuilding this bullpen.
There were expensive free agents available
out there. You had guys like Josh Hader
that you could have thrown a bazillion
dollars at and maybe signed him.
But the Cardinals
had so many holes. You couldn't just
give the bag to one guy
and expect all your problems to go away.
It would not work that way. So instead,
Mo goes out and he goes
and gets a bunch of guys.
Many of them, you and I have
never heard of, right? And what he does is he gets so many that he's creating competition and giving
Ali and the rest of the organization multiple options to bring up and down, you know, the Memphis
train there coming from AAA. Now you've got a lot of arms to choose from. And that's one thing
the Cardinals learned the hard way last year was that you need depth on your roster and in your
organization. It's key. People get hurt. People have bad seasons and struggle. You didn't want to get
set up to be short-handed again in 2024 like you were last year. So one of the first moves,
which was a very under the radar move, and one of the guys that is all the buzz of camp right now
is the trade they made for Riley O'Brien from the Seattle Mariners. We'll throw up a picture of
Riley right now on YouTube real quick. But yeah, Riley O'Brien, nobody had hardly heard of this guy.
Former eighth round pick by the raised in 2017,
had spent time with the Reds, now Seattle,
has only appeared in two major league games.
Two, he's 29 years old now.
What about that?
Sounds good.
Not much, right?
But last year at AAA, he appears in 51 games.
2.290ERA strikes out 89 hitters in 55 innings,
which is a 14.1 strikeouts per nine average.
Something's going on there.
You don't just roll out of bed and all of a sudden you're striking out 14.1 per nine.
And so far at camp, we've been able to see the impressive arsenal that Riley O'Brien has right now.
He's sitting 98-99 on the fastball.
He's got devastating, breaking stuff, making people look foolish up there.
I mean, this is a guy that you think that just about anybody could have had.
I have no idea why my camera is all blurry right now.
I apologize for this.
I don't know what it's doing on YouTube.
It is not straightening up.
Let's try.
Let me move this.
That is not working either.
Well, sorry for the blurry look.
I have no idea why it's doing that right now.
It's being all goofy.
But anyway, they bring back Wilking Rodriguez,
whose 2023 was a lost year due to injuries,
but he's got strikeout potential.
They grab Ryan Fernandez in the Rule 5 draft from the Red Sox.
They trade Tyler O'Neill to Boston.
grabbed two more arms from them and Nick Anderson and Victor Santos.
Fernandez and Anderson are going to compete for a spot in the pen this spring.
We'll see what happens.
Another move that was made that I was a big fan of was sending Richie Palacios to the
raised for reliever Andrew Kittrich.
Yeah, we love Pelasios.
We love his smile.
We loved his story.
He was fun while he was in St. Louis.
But unfortunately, the Cardinals needed a pitcher more than they needed what he could offer.
And they were able to swap him.
Now Kittridge had returned from Tommy John's surgery in mid-August,
and from all accounts,
look very much like the pitcher who was an all-star in 2021,
when he was 9 and 3 with a 1.88 ERA and an ERA plus of 215 before getting hurt in 2020.
I'm just going to throw this up here for now.
I have no idea why it's so blurry on YouTube.
I apologize for that.
But then in the beginning of February, Mo grabs another veteran and right-hander,
Keenan Middleton.
Now I've got something I want to show you guys as far as Keenan Middleton goes.
I'm going to throw up his baseball savant page.
Now, in Middleton's career, hadn't really done anything all that eye-popping, right?
Angels, Mariners, Diamondbacks, nothing special.
But in 2023, he changed something.
Something clicked while he's with the White Sox and the Yankees.
39 games in Chicago, 3.96 ERA, strikes out 47 and 36 in the third innings,
gets traded to the Yankees, is even better with New York.
12 games, 1.88 ERA, ERA plus of 235.
So combined last year, he finishes 2 and 2 and 2,000,
64 whiffs and 50 and 2 thirds innings,
ERA plus of 133.
So what was the magical change that he made?
What did he learn to do?
The key to his success was he quit throwing his fastball as much
and started using the change-up and slider more.
And it was huge for him.
You're looking at the whiff rate.
you're looking at the K rate, like look at all the red that is in here.
If you're on YouTube, you can see it.
I got it up there for you right now.
I mean, all that, that is beautiful.
Now, the question is, will he be able to do it again in 2024?
That remains to be seen.
That remains to be seen.
You couple all of these additions with guys like Ryan Helsing and Giovanni Gallegos,
Joe Joe Romero, Andre Palante, John King,
although he's had a rough go in the spring so far.
And we've still got Zach Thompson, Matthew Libertor, Drew Rahm.
We don't know exactly how they're going to fit in the mix yet.
We know there's competition for that sixth starter, swing man type of spot with Libyan Thompson
as the top candidates to get it.
There's been that chatter about the Cardinals using a six-man rotation to start the year
because of the amount of games and the travel that is going to take place in the first month of the season for them.
And perhaps later on in the year, you get younger prospects like Teen Kent and Cooper Jerpy,
who have made some noise at spring training right now.
And maybe they make a good enough impression at AA and AAA that they end up making it up to the big leagues this year.
It's a possibility.
I know it's not a lot of well-known guys, but it's a lot of high ceiling arms.
And it's a lot of guys competing for a few spots, which brings the best out of everybody involved.
And I think that's a great way to go about building your bullpen.
The Cardinals weren't just one or two guys away.
They needed multiple arms.
So that's what they went out and did.
Probably got a little help from Kyn Bloom, who was the guy that they brought in from Boston,
who was with the raise.
But Heinbloom is somebody that obviously gave him some input because they were able to get
some guys from Boston and from Tampa Bay.
I love the Kittridge in Middleton moves.
I'm very intrigued by Riley O'Brien.
So for the bullpen, I'm excited about it.
I'm excited about it.
I think they did it the right way, the smart way, and we're just hoping that it all pans out.
Now, as far as the opening day roster goes, we're going to run down this real quick.
I only got a couple of minutes here.
And again, I'm going to try to see if I go, it's still blurry.
I have no idea why it's like this.
I cannot explain it to you.
Like what has made this camera blurry all of a sudden?
Do I have something on it?
Nope.
It's still not going to.
It's still not going to focus, isn't it?
it. All right. Well, we're going to put this photo back out because I don't want to drive you guys nuts with that. But anyway, opening day roster. Gray Gibson, Michaelis, Lynn, and Matt's those are starting five, right?
Zach Thompson, in my opinion, has been better than Matthew Libert's at the major league level. These are facts. So I'm going to give the nod to Thompson over Libby. I think Libby starts at Memphis.
Ryan Helsley is your closer. Jojo Romero, you're top lefty. Then you've got Andrew Ketrich, Giovanni Gallegos, Keena Middleton.
I think they give the benefit of the doubt to Andre Palante, who's been here for a couple of years over the rule five pick Ryan Fernandez.
Not saying that Fernandez can't outperform Palante in camp.
I could see that happening.
And if it does, I could see them sticking around with them.
But as of right now, on February 28, they'll give the nod to Andre Palante, who's actually looked pretty good this spring.
And then I got Riley O'Brien in there.
So there you go.
That's 13 pitchers to start the year, which means you'll have 13 spots.
for position players. Not a lot of wiggle room there. We're going to go over the offseason
for the position players, projected opening day lineups. I'm going to do all of that with you guys
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month to do it. We're on pace to get there. Let's do it together. Let's continue letting our love for
the Cardinals grow nationally. I know there was people in Australia downloading the podcast.
I had some people in China doing it. Love it. I love it. Cardinals Nation, strong worldwide.
You're the best fans in baseball for a reason. I'll see you next time on Locked on Cardinals.
