Locked On Cardinals - Daily Podcast On The St. Louis Cardinals - MLB SQUAD SHOW: MLB All-Star Game CHAOS as Swing-Off STUNS Fans | Is This the FUTURE of Baseball?

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

Kyle Schwarber's clutch performance in the first-ever All-Star Game swing-off stuns fans. The Locked On MLB Squad breaks down this historic moment, analyzing player selections and debating potential improvements. From Cal Raleigh's impressive Home Run Derby showing to nostalgic discussions about past events, the hosts dive deep into the evolution of All-Star festivities.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Supply HouseJoin the TradeMaster program today at SupplyHouse.com/TM and start ordering plumbing, HVAC, and electrical supplies with just a few clicks. Plus, use promo code S-H-5 for 5% off your first order. That’s SupplyHouse.com!Monarch MoneyTake control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKEDONMLB at monarchmoney.com/lockedonmlb for 50% off your first year.GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONMLB for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelRight now, new customers can get ONE HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS when your first FIVE DOLLAR BET WINS! Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started. Bet with FanDuel—Official Partner of the NBA.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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We're coming in Spikes Up, no hurt feelings allowed, so squad up. Welcome into the post all-star game Lockdown MLB Squad. We're glad that you're alongside us here today because we are part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team, your Major League Baseball every single day. My name is Jeff Carr. I am one half of Lockdown Reds and the channel manager for Lockdown MLB. Joining me on this squad show is J.D. Haffron from Lockdown Brendan Donovan.

Sorry, Lockdown Cardinals. We've got Harry Ruiz from Lockdown Dodgers. we've got sully from lockdown MLB, Justin Lada from Lockdown Guardians and Brett Chancy from Lockdown Astros. Great, absolutely fantastic All-Star game to get to on this post-all-Star game MLB Squad show because we had something we never seen before. We had an amazing tribute to Hank Aaron. And Joe Tori almost forced another tie.

Okay, he didn't force the tie in 2002, but he was the manager of the American League team. But we're glad that you're alongside us here today on the lockdown Mn Mb squad show that is brought to you by GameTime. Download the GameTime app today. Create an accountant, use the code lockdown MLB for $20 off your first purchase. All right, gosh, a swing off to decide the All-Star game. And as Bob Nightingale tweeted, the National League wins, 6 to 6. I am still buzzing from this. This was an amazing experience.

And Kyle Schwerber gets the MVP because he took three swings. and he hit three bombs. Yeah, he basically went. Jonathan Oronda! Good pick. Seriously, we get down to the end of that excitement.

And he goes, Jonathan Oronda, and he goes 0 for three. Like, that really peaked right after that we got there. And then really bottomed out. But that was fun. You got to see something you've never seen before. What were you going to say, buddy?

Oh, and I was just saying, you know, I guess that could be the homeowner. Derby 2.0 because, you know, we didn't have a ton of home run hitters in the home run derby. What we did. But there were a couple guys you wondered, well, why were they in the home run derby? So Kyle Swarber, he looked good. He looked good.

The Duke can mash. It would have been nice if, and Stacey got sullius of Lockdown Yankees posted this. Like, where are Otani and Judge and Raleigh at this point? You have, you know, I mean, Jonathan Aranda is a fine player. But, I mean, we're playing back home, Sully. They were flying back home already. Yeah, that's true. Like at some point.

But I was able to leave a game early. Yeah. Yeah, not me. But, uh, but you know what? I think this was the best all-star game we've had since that, that extra inning game. We had in New York back in 2000 and 2008 with J.D. Drew, getting a home run. And it was a, I believe it was Michael Young hit the walk off sack fly in that. That was a phenomenal game.

Most All-Star games, I don't remember. Most All-Star games, I remember the introduction of the players and thank the spirit of Buck Weaver and all the other members of the White Sox of 1919 in the Field of Dreams, that they're wearing their uniforms this year and not wearing those crazy like, yeah, like so last year, last year Jared Duran hit a home run. I didn't know it was Jared Durant until he was, you know, going around the bases. but this was a fun. I mean, it looked like it was going to be a clunker for a while.

And then the Giants bullpen does what it does. And that is it gives up leads. And then I didn't know. The Padres. The Padres. I didn't know about the swing. Or a Dave Roberts managed bullpen gives up a big lead. An NLS master class of disaster.

But hey, there was one. guy that had a multi-hit game before we got to the swing off and he might have had a good argument for the MVP had the National League ended up holding onto the lead and not going to extras and that was Brendan Donovan. Yeah. And then he hit like a little bunt that kind of went. It just didn't go as far as Kwan's Infields. And that's how he went out on a whimper. So that was kind of a bummer. But yeah, it was still a very entertaining game, specifically in the later innings. Like things got more exciting. So, uh, oh, no, and we got to see something we never seen before, as you guys mentioned, which was really, really cool to see the, uh, the home runoff at the

end of everything there. And it was, it was a good time. I enjoyed this, uh, this all-star game tremendously. Hey, but earlier, sorry, earlier Tuesday on locked on Dodgers, I was asking which Dodger has the best shot at getting the MVP in the all-star game. And I was like, look, But the reality is they're only going to play the first three to four innings tops, which was Will Smith, Shoahel, Tiny 2-Fats, Freddie Freeman was out in the second. Clayton Kirschoff pitched at two batters. I was like a big moment late in the game is going to earn somebody the All-Star Game MVP. I wasn't expecting it to go that long an hour after a three-hour game.

And then we find out who the MVP was. But look, I love it that when you look over at the NBA All-Star game and the NFL Pro Bowl, those are super boring. Those have no competition at all. You can look at what hockey did this year. You can look at what baseball is doing now. And it's like, all right, we give competition and we give entertainment for the fans that take their time out of their day to watch this game. The next thing they can do is actually have All-Star Weekend.

That's the only thing that's missing to me. The Homeon Derby needs to be like Friday. The futures game needs to be Saturday or vice versa. and then Sunday needs for the All-Star game. That's something they're missing. But LLB owners are never going to give up their weekend, home dates in the summer. It's never going to happen.

Jeff knows my stance on this. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, you start the season with the All-Star game. You start the season with this great celebration of baseball, and you have the star entire season. Now, I love that Mizorowski was an All-Star this year, but I think he has six more starts than me.

And if things don't go right, I mean, you've seen situations where, Like, should we put, like, when Yasil Puig came up and was amazing, his first, I'm going to say, four or five weeks in 2013, I think it was 2013, Harry, if I'm remembering this. I'm just doing this off the top of my head. But there were some people, should Puig be an All-Star? Should Puege be an All-Star? And the same thing with Strasbourg when he made his great start in 2010. Should Strasbourg be an All-Star? Should Strasbourg be an All-Star? And it should be based on the whole season. Because as Harry knows, I am tied with Kirk Gibson in All-Star Game appearances. And for those of you wondering, it's zero.

And you have like Tim Salmon, the second best fish base player in the history of the Angels, never made an all-star team. And Tyler Green, who finished 1995 with an ERA over five, made an all-star team. Because you should base it on the entire season. But, and that's, I think, a great way to start the season. And then have this mid-part B where you go to Japan and they have the Hall of Fame induction. and you can do all that in the midpart. But no one asked me that.

But I will say I'm watching this game. I'm up in the Bay Area right now. It's with my mom watching. She's a big giant fan. And I was saying to her at one point, watch out for Stephen Kwan. He doesn't have the best numbers, but he'll always get a big hit.

And I said he's a lot like Hunter Pence when he played for the Giants. Didn't have the gaudiest numbers. But whenever there was a rally, somehow Hunter Pence was in the middle of it. And whenever Hunter Pence got injured, the Giants went on a huge slump. And I said, that's Stephen Kwan.

Bernie Williams said that quality too, and he was with the Yankees. But as opposed to what other teams sold? And lo and behold, two outs. I turned to my mom and I said, look out for Kwan. And he does what Kwan does, which is get the job done. And this is a concept that Yankee fans won't understand, but he put the ball in play and allowed for things to happen. Yankee fans said, how not score run, if not.

solo Homer and he was able to produce a run. And you saw that the way, when they rallied off of Rodriguez of the Giants, they were hitting it the other way. Yankee fans were going, but launch angle not high enough. How do we understand? Yankee fans are going to love this podcast. I got to say, I got news. A's fans hate me this morning.

So why don't we just go right on and have Yankee fans hate you later? Coast to coast. We're going coast to coast. So, hey, that's for sure. I will say, the Guardians, when the Guardians wins, Stephen Gwan's OPS is like over 900. When they lose, it's below five or so. That's 100 what 100 Pence was.

Steve Gwan, he's the straw that stirs the drink. I'm curious. I can talk about by the way, so it didn't matter. There we go. There we go. This is true. Just prolonged the inevitable is what it was. But I tell you what, with this, with this,

swing off. It's got me thinking a couple of questions. The first one being, did they get this order right? Did they get the swing off right? And does now everyone have to stay to the end of the game? Get the supplies that you need from the site that's made for the skilled trades. Supply House. Whether you're working in plumbing, HVAC, or electrical supply house is the reliable way to order products online. They're easy to use website is packed with helpful resources and the latest product information to help you get the job done right. If you need help with an order, supply house offers expert support and industry leading service, you will always talk to a real person when you call supply house.

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the Yankees or the A's, we've got a team podcast for you. And of course, Sully is hating on them all over on lockdown M-O-B. Never the expose. I never hate on the expost. Never hate on the expos. Never an expose hating podcasts there, locked on MLB. But I know this. The swing off was interesting because it was a little bit hamstrung by the fact that, well, there were some guys that were on their way home. They were on the plane. They were trying to get back, maybe spend a day like just getting a little R&R before the next part of the season takes hold. So with that being said, the decisions were a little bit limited by Dave Roberts and Aaron Dune.

But did they get it right? Because it kind of felt like there were a couple of dudes that were standing there on the sidelines watching that should have been swinging. Well, I think if you have the first ever swing off, I think one of us was saying it's been in there since 22, but they've never used it. wouldn't you want of the guys that are remaining in the dugouts, the top three hitters of home runs that have the launch angle that do all that stuff

on both sides, the first time you do it, you know, you only get a second, you don't get a second chance to make a first impression. And although it was exciting the way it ended because of the way Kyle Schorber did it with the three swings, but I would have loved to seeing Pete Alonzo get up there as well. Yes, yes. You know, John LaRonda couldn't come through. I'm like, yeah, I mean, how does Arunda get the swing and the swing off? But Pete Alonzo gets, gets stiffed, you know?

Stephen Kwan has 10 more career home runs to Jonathan Aranda, by the way. Bobby, what do we learn tonight? Quas is a winner. He should have been doing it. You can't do an inside the park home run in a home run derby, though. That's not how it works. We're not a fielder. There's no fielders.

Apparently, the home run derby participants are predetermined by the managers before the game even starts. I'm calling, you know what on that. Aaron Boone said Jonathan Aronda is my guy if we are down to our last. Come on. That's Aaron Boo. That's the thing that finally gets them fired. That's the thing that finally gets them fired. I didn't like Aaron Boone as a Cleveland Indian for one year.

I don't like him as the Yankees man for now either. As a native New England, Red Sox fan, I have many issues with Aaron Boone. But thankfully, he's lost to the Red Sox twice in the postseason as a manager. So I guess it's almost evened out. So Ruiz, how does David Roberts botched this? Right? No, but how, I mean, how do you go with this guy over Aaron Judge,

Cowellie, Vladdy Jr., Vladig Guerrero Jr.? I guess he assumed he goes these starters because that like you said you watch the starters for the first couple of things and that is the one thing I like about the all-star game is the guys who get voted in the best players you get to see him at 8 o'clock or 820 after all the pageantry and then they come out of a couple of things they get ovations and then the team the guys that aren't starters for teams that aren't as good you get to see them have the impactful moments you get the best of both worlds well I guess the manager just assumed yeah Aaron judge and Joey Otani these guys are going to be on a plane so I guess you know what? I can't lie of them. Say something about this now and be like, actually, we need you guys. Please. What would it have been like to see Judge versus Otani in one of those rounds? How freaking cool. That would that have been.

Yeah. That would be amazing. And maybe it's just you have some good Southern cooking there in the dugout to hang them on like a care package or something. Got some biscuits and gravy, got some shrimp and grits, you know, really keep them nice and warm and toasty. And then all of a sudden they're ready to jump up there and take a few swings at that. I don't like that's maybe maybe you have the fans vote for the ones you want to see in a swing off yes well i mean the players got to agree remember this we're going to i mean this is why we don't have a skills competition because uh you know players aren't going to agree to do anything extra they don't want to do as far as health is concerned but here's a free piece of marketing for major league baseball never leave a game early tonight proved it and that includes the players free piece of marketing run with it please I'll accept all the kickbacks. Even the fans that sit here until the night.

A lot of them left once the last out was pitched. A lot of them left of Pete Alonzo homered. How many of them were sitting in traffic trying to get out of the stadium area there, the battery? Yeah, the batteries. And they were stuck in traffic and they're like, wait, there's a what going? They're hitting the home runs? What?

It's like the people when you see the Kirk Gibson home run. It's out. You see the players that the cars there and a couple of the red lights go on like. Gibson Homer game. And I didn't see the Kirk Gibson Homer. That was too funny. I got to watch the replay, Salie. That was a fantastic time.

Oh, I've watched it like the Zabruder film. What are you kidding me? Back into the last. You froze in the exact moment where you said. There was an internet hiccup right there. That was kind of a lot of time. Everybody's going to claim they were there for it, even though if they weren't.

It's like Len Barker's perfect game for Cleveland. Everyone was there, apparently. Yeah. But like you said, Sally, like you're going to remember this All-Star game because of the swing-up. It's just, it's a little bit funny that like,

okay, I don't buy that the managers pick their, their three guys before the game starts. They're picking based on who's still there, but who was still there. There was L.A. La Cruz was cheering everybody on from the dugout. Bobby Witt was cheering on everybody from the dugout.

That would have been a fun matchup seeing those two guys go. but I think it's, I think it's interesting, like, the different guys. And, of course, we saw Terrick Scoobel and street clothes watching on the sideline. Can I make a suggestion? Make a suggestion. If it's tied after that round, we then go legends. We give Ken Griffey Jr. a bat. We give Chipper Jones a bat.

Let's go. Let's go. We have, you know. So we were behind the scenes waiting for an hour. We have a seance and we bring Hank back. Yeah. Yeah. Casey pulled it, like Torres hamstring, playing for the Savannah banana. We don't need, we don't have to run.

Right. They don't have to. We don't have to play out on junior on national TV tearing his ACL trying to swing off at the end. But I don't know. I'd watch that. I think that would. Yeah, I would say. They'll get ratings.

I would watch it, of course. Or the managers this year. The manager is here. Dave Roberts. Boone wins that one. Yeah. I mean, unfortunately, Tim Wakefield is no longer with us. So he can't pitch Darren, Boone.

Too soon. Too soon. How? Too soon. But I know this. I mean, this was not the only home run derby that happened in the last 48 hours. There was also Monday night, and that was a pretty interesting turn of events as well. We'll get to that coming up next. Ever wish managing your money felt easier? With Monarch money, it can.

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Junior Camerro and Cow Rally. And it was really just all Cow rally. The big dumper was all over the home run derby on Monday night. he was hitting the ball far. I mean, he basically is doing stuff at a record pace. And I wondered, would he act, you know, there's all this talk about, well, it mess up his swing or whatever. And I kind of joked about it on Locked on Astros going, well, I kind of hope he hits a lot of home runs in the home run derby

because we play them right out of the shoot after the All-Star break and maybe get some of that stuff out of his system before we meet him, because he's having one heck of a year when it comes to the long ball. But guys like that, L.D.A. La Cruz, you know, just, I mean, O'Neill, you know, just all these guys out there that have the ability to hit the ball far. It's always been a fun spectacle. I'm not a fan of the format. I know it's a shorter format.

I know they're trying to condense more and it not be long and drawn out. But I do miss the days of, you know, the home run after home run, the McGuire's and the juniors. And for me, my favorite home run derby was Fenway Park. Yeah. Was when they brought Ted Williams out. Then they had, you know, during that all-star, you know, celebration. Also, I had the home run derby, Mark McGuire. Just, it was great seeing that.

So what do you guys think of the format? Well, can I just bring up, Brett, I have up here the 1999 home run derby lineup. Okay. You had Ken Griffey Jr. won it. and this is when he was with Seattle. You had Jeremy Burnitz, Mark McGuire, Jeff Bagwell,

Larry Walker, Nomar Garcia, B.J. Suroff, Sean Green, Sammy Sosa, and John Jaha. That's a home run derby lineup.

And it's not the best one because at 96, the two that were facing off face to face at 96, Bonds and McGuire. And like, I'm just, I have a bunch of,

these home run derbies up in front of me. And they're just sort of, you go to the, you go to the Roids era and look at kids, don't do steroids. But if you do, go to the home run derby. You have Sosa and Griffey, Griffey, he's never

caught for anything. Carl Everett, who was, who hit it so well, he actually believed in dinosaurs. Carlos Delgado, Edgar Martinez, Chipper Jones, Vladdi Guerrero, Pudge, Rodriguez. I mean, you had Bonds, Giambi, Sosa, A-Rod, Todd Hilton, Brett Boone, Troy Gloss, and Luis Gonzalez in the 2001.

Holy Toledo. I mean, these are, I mean, Bonds, A-Rod, Giambi Sosa, Canerco, Sexton, Tori Hunter, and Lance Berkman was the 202. That was the one that was the tie. So imagine if they had a swing off and you had Giambi Sosa, A-Rod, Canerco, Bons, Bons, you know, Tori Hunter, Lance Berkman. I mean, you know what? I mean, just say yes.

I mean, let's go. Let's go. Didn't Sammy Sosa put on a show in the Homearned Derby the last time it was in Atlanta? When it was at Turner Field that was like, oh, 2000 or 2001? 2000. 2000? Yeah, I'm pretty sure Sammy Sosa put on a tremendous show back. He won.

He got 20. He got, he hit 9. He had 11 in the second round. He had 6 in the first round, 11 in the second round. 9. He got 26. Jeffrey Jr. was in second place with 11. I mean, Josh Hamilton, that one year in Yankee Stadium, what absolutely bananas.

That was a lot of fun. I do miss the old format. I like the time format a little bit. I wish there was some way to, like, you know, maybe do that for like the early rounds and then later rounds are back to the 10-out format or something, or maybe an eight-out format. I don't know, but I do miss the old format a little bit. I do miss the back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, gone calls.

The broadcast was not for me. I watched the Stackass broadcast, but I still love the Home Run Derby. My friends and I go out for it every year. It's still a lot of fun. I mean, you also have the same kind of identity crisis sometimes that the NBA has, where the NBA doesn't have the biggest guys in the dunk contest and it's a sham. Home Run Derby is better than that, but like you haven't seen Judge. We haven't seen Otani do it.

Like, I want the big guns out there in the Home Run Derby, too. I want to see those guys. And that's when you want to do the early rounds where, okay, let's time it so we can move this thing along. but when you get your big guns to the end, your Cal Raleys, your hearing judges, let's let's let him go seven outs and let's put on the show to end this thing. By the way,

Josh Hamilton had 28 home runs in the first round. Yeah, that was lost. 28. Yeah, he lost to Justin Mornow five to three in the final round. Yeah, that's a, that's what everybody remembers Hamilton. So, yeah,

Justin Mornow has more MVPs than Derek Jeter. more than Derek Jeter, Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz combined. It's that Minnesota bias. It's like the inviator voters are always biased towards the twins. It's all those lakes. Yeah, it's lake bias. Thank you fans are just really going to love this.

Wow. He's always going to win this protection program for you pretty soon. If you're also, Justin Warner wasn't even the best. Justin Warner wasn't even the MVP of the twins that. They had Joe Maurer. They had Johann Santana. They had Torrey Hunter.

What? Did Joe Maurer have an MVP? What? Doesn't Joe Mower have an MVP to his name? Yes, he does. So we can, we can, and head and shoulders, try to make him a sex symbol in the 2000s, try to make him. They put him a bunch of commercials, had a bunch of women fawning over him because, you know,

you think of. No. Timesworth, you know, Ryan Gosling, Joe Mauer. You think about the people that. the women's hearts of flutter. What was the, you had the MLB, the show commercial. Remember that was the broadcaster?

It was like Maurer. Only the show had him on one time. If you were in the tagline for that now, but he was on a good movie the show commercial. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Not me.

Joe Maurer. Who is baseball's current? No, I'm not going there. Not going there. Oh, by the way. Cow rally, obviously. Yes. You not lie.

Let me just throw one other thing. I kind of like it when they mic the players. on a game like this. I love that. But I love it like, so Terrick Scoobal, what are you doing? I don't know, getting rocked in the first inning. What are you doing? And why did they mic up Jazz Chisle, who's one of the funnier players in baseball?

I would have liked that over Matt Olson, who might be the most boring. Oh, my God, I've never heard speaking. Oh, really? I'm enjoying the time. All good players. How about the Miz throwing? Yeah, he's, he's throwing hard. It looks good from here.

Yeah. It looks good from here. Here. Peacrow Armstrong is hilarious. I want to mic that Pete Crow Armstrong. He's hilarious. Yeah, he's good. He's a good kid.

He's a good kid. He's the best, I think. Kirshaw's Mike. Yeah, that's great. Chrishaw is going to be a broadcaster. Kershaw is going to be a broadcaster somewhere. He is enough sense of humor about himself. And, you know, he certainly is more sense of humor than John Smoltz.

I don't throw a cup. I'm not a big Smoltz fan on the mic. I'm not a big Smoltz fan on the mic. I think we just found his replacement then, right? Kirshaw, once he retires. I thought he was a partner. I thought he didn't wait right until he is running for Congress or something. I wish it was Zach Grinky.

I would love Zach Grinky. I want him in the Hall of Fame just to hear his speech. Speaking of players who were miced up, that would be great in the booth, Joey Votto. Joey Votto was marked in the field of dreams game, and that was awesome. And there's people who don't like it that think it's a big distraction. to the players. I think it just brings in more viewers, more people that will get invested and interested in the game. So I don't see why they hate from people, you know, you get to know them outside of just, you know, the normal everyday interviews. Yeah, it's the personality. It's all

like they're doing it in Game 7 of the World Series in the ninth inning. Like, it's an All-Star game. It's the Homeward Derby. They do it in spring training. They do it during the fun stuff. And sometimes you'll do it like on random, you know, Apple TV games, whatever. Like, you're not doing in Game 7 of the World Series. And they even had, they even had like both Roberts and Boone miced up and they were talking I thought that. I thought that was one coming in. They've gone against each other throughout. They got the rivalry and yeah, no, that's good.

Yeah. You're not going to have like, so Madison Baumgartner, you've been brought in out of the bullpen to face the royals in game seven. What's going through your mind right now? Shut up. I wanted Will Smith locked up because I wanted to hear him what he had to say trying to catch Paul Skeens and then coming out late while I didn't catch Jacob Misarowski later. I want to hear the catchers try to catch that heat and see what they're saying back there. Like that's that, that'd be a lot of fun to me.

This is what would be knuckleballers. I want a catcher miced up trying to catch a knuckleball. Forget the heat. I want, like, oh, where's it going? What is Doug Maribalee up to these days?

Yes. He's a real estate. No, I'm not kidding. He's a realtor. Oh, there you go. You can ask him.

Yeah. There you go. But no, I think that that's the perfect encapsulation of what the All-Star game should be because I feel like they've gotten away from the whole, we're going to make this serious business. It's entertainment. Make it fun. And that really, I think that really accomplishes it. Like, Mike up more players, have them talking smack, pitcher to hit or something like that. Like, that'd be a lot of fun. Yeah, if you got World Series.

If you got World Series home field advantage, then I get it why you've got to be all serious and everything. If it's just an exhibition, let's have fun. Let's pick it entertaining for everybody. and I think Major League Baseball is kind of finding that sweet spot where it's like, hey, it's perfect for the purest, it's perfect for the casual fans, and let's try to make the game bigger. Yeah, Kyle Stowers of Ryan O'Hern were really concerned with homefield advantage, this one. Yeah. Can you imagine that? You got those guys out there with that on the line?

It would be crazy. But you're right. And I'll tell you one thing, I did not know, like the rest of humanity, I did not know we were going to have a swing off to do the thing that we all were yelling at the TV in 2002 when they called it a tie in Milwaukee. So Christ sakes, you got A-Rod and Bonds and Sosa and they're all here. Give them a bat. But because of that, one of my biggest pet peeves in the All-Star game was swept away, which was, I thought we were going to go in extra innings. And I thought, like, are we going to have a situation we run out of pitchers? Why didn't you let that pitcher throw more than one?

I still think your starting pitcher has to face the other team's starting nine. I still want to see Paul Skeves face all nine batters. And I still want to see face all nine batters. And then after that, hit the whirlpool, go get on a plane with Otani. But, you know, I do want to see that matchup because right now it's like, what pitcher will get the honor of facing the first three batters of the game, which is not as dramatic. as, you know, Clemens pitching three perfect innings in the Astrodome in 1986.

And Sully, pulling back the curtain a little bit and just the behind the scenes look, Jeff, J.D., and myself, we were here the final inning because we were like, okay, the game's about to be over. Let's go with this show and keep get it rolling. And we were finding out stuff between all three of us as it was happening. And we are huge baseball fans. We cover baseball. And we were still finding out stuff as it was happening.

So I don't blame you that you were finding out stuff as well as it was going on. We were all of us were. I'm a pretty casual fan. I'm a pretty casual fan of baseball. Ever since the Seattle pilots. Yeah. But that just means the moral of the story is never leave the game. And that is how we will conclude this edition of the Lockdown MOUB Squad Show.

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