Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - Colts Live Mock Draft 5.0

Episode Date: April 15, 2021

On today's episode, Evan is joined by Stampede Blue's Stephen Reed are back for another Indianapolis Colts live mock draft! For Live Mock Draft 5.0, how does it fall for Indy?With Jim Irsay's comments... on Wednesday about addressing left tackle, pass rusher and cornerback early, is that a new model to follow? At No. 21 on PFF's mock draft simulator, so many intriguing options are available. However, is this a better chance to trade back?This is a must-listen episode, Colts fans. All of the Colts' picks are covered as Evan and Stephen take the role of Colts GM Chris Ballard and Assistant GM Ed Dodds. What ends up going down for the Colts in the newest live mock draft scenario? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You are Locked On Colts, your daily Indianapolis Colts podcast, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Hello everybody, welcome back to the latest episode of Locked On Colts, part of the Locked On Podcast Network. Today's always your host, Evan Cedric, joined by Stephen Reed of Stampede Blue. As we are back for another live mock draft here, I know our listeners always enjoy when we are doing this. We still have a couple more left, Stephen, leading up to the 2020 NFL Draft, which is now just around two weeks away.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Exciting times ahead for sure. And before we get into our live mock draft, there's a few quick housekeeping notes here. The last time we recorded together, Stephen, on Monday, Jadeveon Clowney was linked to the Colts. We knew he was going to be visiting the Cleveland Browns here soon. The Baltimore Ravens were also the other team that was linked to Clowney. No surprise, though, Clowney signed a one-year deal with Cleveland
Starting point is 00:01:01 after visiting there. The interest from the Browns with Clowney has been there for a couple years now one year deal up to 10 million dollars what's your thoughts on Clowney and Cleveland because I mean we talked about this on Monday but I feel like honestly for both sides this is a very easy deal to make because it seemed like they both wanted to happen yeah it seems like it's it's a good deal for both sides when you look at the money I think Clowney got upwards of a max value of like $10 million on it. And I think it was more closer to like $8 million.
Starting point is 00:01:32 And so Cleveland was not breaking the bank. They had a bunch of money still to spend. Really, they still have about $13 million left in cap space and like that. And Jadavion Clowney really gets an opportunity to not be the center of attention for defenses. Playing, you know, Houston and then playing in Seattle and Tennessee, he kind of, you know, at least in Seattle, he was more so the focus of the defense, or the focus that offense has put on the defense was more towards him. So now he's got Myles Garrett across from him. He's going to be able to take off.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Myles Garrett's going to get that double team or that help. Myles Garrett's going to get that chip by the running back. J.J. Van Clout is really going to have an opportunity here to play opposite a legitimate pass rusher, which he hasn't done since JJ Watt. And so, you know, I'm excited for him. I'm excited for the city of Cleveland and their fans. You know, Cleveland, Cleveland sports fans are some of the best, best in the business. And so I'm excited for them.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I think it makes a lot of sense for both Cleveland and Jadon Clowney. Before we dive in now to our live model draft, Stephen, I actually had the chance, our local media did indeed, to speak to Colts owner Jim Ursae earlier on a Wednesday afternoon. And a couple interesting takeaways from the meeting with Ursae and one I wanted to quote here from Zach Kiefer of The Athletic who said, quote, on a call this afternoon, Colts owner Jim Ursae says confident the team can draft an edge rusher, left tackle, and possibly even a corner who could be impactful
Starting point is 00:03:09 this coming season. I really think we can fill those positions. I think there's a lot of options there, end quote. What's your thoughts on that? Because also Ursa mentioned Justin Houston possibly coming back. I know he visited the Baltimore Ravens today. But it seems like to me, I mean, I know Chris Bowers is good at drafting here, Stephen, but with the lack of inactivity of adding like blue chip guys
Starting point is 00:03:26 and free agency, once again, the Colts are really betting on Chris Bowers and his scouting staff to hit a home run in this year's draft with all those needs on the board. Yeah, and that's the tough part. With the way that the Colts are choosing to build their team is you have to hit in the draft. Now, that said, Chris Bowers has got a pretty good track record. The one position though, he's kind of struggled with is corner.
Starting point is 00:03:50 So it's going to be interesting to see how and where they address it because the corner class itself is pretty deep in terms of guys that can do like very specific things. You don't have that, like, really like elite like shutdown down corner that you know that um daryl revas kind of guy in this class um from what we can tell now it could mean that the colts go a little bit earlier at cornerback than what a lot of us thought um could greg Newsome Jr. or Caleb Farley be an option for them at 21 or if they decide to trade back? I mean, it really opens it up. And Chris Ballard and Jim Irsay, Jim Irsay almost says too much, a lot. I'm sure Chris Ballard would appreciate it if maybe he didn't say as much.
Starting point is 00:04:41 So it looks like those are some of the big positions that the Colts are targeting and it doesn't bode well for Rocky scene in that situation because they brought back Xavier Rhodes because Rocky scene really hasn't shown up to be that that top cornerback he showed it in flashes but the problem with with with Yassin was in those big games in in those big moments, he always seemed to get called for penalties. And those penalties on third down, on times where you've got a chance to get off the field as a defense, really, really hurt the Colts last season. And so you got to hope that he grows this offseason,
Starting point is 00:05:19 gets another year working with Xavier Rhodes in the cornerback room. You hope that they're going to grow, but obviously Colts look like they might be taking a cornerback early, you know, within the first two days. And quite honestly, that wouldn't shock me either. I know I've said before on the podcast that my three positions would be left tackle, edge, and pass catcher. I wouldn't be surprised if they go corner either at this point. I think with all these needs, Stephen, even throwing in pass catcher to that mix and how Ursae mentioned those three off the top there of adding impact guys at left tackle, edge rusher, and cornerback, assuming they also add in a guy at wide receiver
Starting point is 00:05:59 or tight end, I feel like the closer we get to the draft, unless someone really does fall in their lap like before, even if someone does, maybe someone pays a bigger price to move up here. But with all these needs they want to address here in the draft, Stephen, I mentioned this right when the Carson Wentz trade happened, but I feel like I'm kind of flip-flopping back to this position just because of Ursae's comments today. But you have to imagine here, the Colts are going to be trying their best to move back here and try to recoup some capital and maybe try to get like two for two second round picks here I know they have 54 but if they move back and let's say late in the first round or early second round and get
Starting point is 00:06:31 maybe three second round picks total or a late first and two second round picks to add those really top 50 top 60 picks to the board where Chris Bauer really has hit a lot in the last three years I feel like that's probably their preferred route. Absolutely. I mean, I think that Chris Ballard, we've talked about this before. Normally on any draft board, you've got about 15 to 20 first round prospects.
Starting point is 00:06:56 By the time the Colts pick at 21, the likelihood of those top 15 guys being there is pretty slim. And so from that next set of group, that next set of players, next set of players uh chris ballard would rather i would think move back say with with a team like jacksonville you know who could be looking for a pass catcher like a terrence marshall jr for their new quarterback or maybe a left tackle somebody like that um even though they did franchise cam Robinson for some reason, that they've got picks 33 and 45 in the second round. So they would make a lot of sense.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Miami has 36 and 50. They've got just a ton of ability there in the second round. Or you look at, you know, dropping back a little bit further in the first round and say you drop back with Buffalo, Tampa Bay, Green Bay, somewhere like that. And you pick up another pick late in the second round um to go with that that late first rounder and i think that's ideally what the cult would like to do um with their draft picks especially with 21 unless somebody like you know quitty pay is there or christian derrissaw somebody like that
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Starting point is 00:08:51 Host Peter Bukowski updates you on the latest news of every major sport with the help of our local experts. Follow the Locked On Today podcast on the Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's dive in now, Stephen, into our live mock draft here. We've done Pro Football Network in the past. We're going to do PFF just like last week here, Stephen. So I'm going to start the draft right now. Colts obviously pick out 21. We'll see how the board falls there as well as any trade options for them. Very intriguing, the guys on the board here still, Steven. Our last mock draft, we went with Quidipe, the edge rusher out of Michigan. Quidipe, once again, is on the board here for us at 21. We also have really all the
Starting point is 00:09:22 top edge rushers on the board here still. Quidi Pei, Jalen Phillips, Jason Owe. The only guy off the board at this point looks to have been Aziz Ojulari, an edge rusher out of Georgia. You also want to go over, check out edge rushers we just did there by left tackle. We have guys on the board like Tevin Jenkins still. We have Sam Cosme on the board, Alex Leatherwood. So really this has broken well for us once again, Steve, at important positions of need. We can check out cornerback here as well just based off Erse's comments today. Greg Newsome, the second out of Northwestern, which Chris Bauer went to as pro day.
Starting point is 00:09:54 He's on the board for them here as well. Before we even get into the trade options here, Stephen, I feel like this broke pretty well for the Colts where you have guys like Newsome, Pei, even Phillips, Owe, Jenkins, Cosme. I think this opens up the door more, I mean, with all these guys on the board for them to possibly trade back. Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, when you've got a lot of guys that are similarly graded,
Starting point is 00:10:16 it makes a lot more sense to drop back just a few spots if you can. I don't know what trade opportunities we might have right now, if any. But if we've got those trade opportunities, with all the guys they've got in all the positions that it seems like the Colts are going to be looking at, at least early in this draft, I feel like trading back might be the ideal option right now. Yeah, we went over the prospects there, Stephen. Let's go ahead and look at the tradeback options on the board, at least teams that are interesting.
Starting point is 00:10:49 We went up 221. A really intriguing one. This is kind of right in the Colts' wheelhouse, in my opinion. The Cincinnati Bengals want to move back up here from pick 38 in this year's draft. They obviously could be a really bad team again next year, so you could possibly get a 2022 pick in there as well. They took Jamar Chase, wide receiver out of LSU in the simulation with their fifth overall pick and with all these left tackles in the board here steven i imagine that's probably why they're moving up to get a guy like a tevin jenkins or a sam cosme or even another weapon for him if they
Starting point is 00:11:15 want to for joe burrow so they have bingles or interest here as well as the la rams who are at 57 i don't know if i want to move back that far, honestly, but looking at the Bengals here, is there any possibility, Steve, you want to move back here 16 spots, 17 spots, and get a top of the second round pick? I think I'd like to try it out just to see what we get. I know other times, if this was the real draft, we're probably looking at a quiddy pay in this situation, but I think we did that last week.
Starting point is 00:11:44 So let's go ahead and drop back, see what the Bengals are willing to take from us and see, you know, see what we get. Yeah. Let's go ahead and look at that, Steve. And I'm also pulling up the draft tech value board, which is a Jimmy Johnson, the famous one that he's put together over the years and the Colts with the first pick. I'll go ahead.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I'd offer 38 69 in in a round two in 2022. See if we can maybe grab it. Yeah, that would be a really good one there. That's pretty much, I think, fair value on both ends there. Let's try that out. They did not accept that deal. Did you want to maybe try a third round pick next year? Or maybe they're kind of being a little stingy here.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I think they're probably being a little stingy here um but yeah go ahead and try the the third round pick or swap it out into 38 69 and 112 all right let's try the future third i did not accept that either so let's go ahead and try 38 69 111 for 21 they did not accept that one either do you feel comfortable enough steven to drop back for just 38 and 69 for 21. They did not accept that one either. Do you feel comfortable enough, Stephen, to drop back for just 38 and 69 for 21? That means the Colts would have three second round picks, 38, 54, and 69.
Starting point is 00:12:56 I'd feel okay with that and see if they'll take that. Let's see if they do it. Trade is accepted here, Steve. I'm going to go ahead and pull up the value chart, move back here. It's kind of a quintessential Chris Bauer trade right there. Even though they don't get a future second-round pick in this, they move back, get three second-round picks.
Starting point is 00:13:11 We all know Chris Bauer loves those second-round picks. According to the value chart, the Colts' 21st overall pick is 800 points. The Bengals' 38th pick in this year's draft was 520. So I'm going to add that up here for you guys. 520 plus the 69th pick in this year's draft was 520. So I'm going to add that up here for you guys. 520 plus the 69th pick in this year's draft for 245, 765. So the Colts really are in the Bengals, make a pretty fair trade. I know Ballard usually doesn't lose on the draft value chart, but according to this, they did lose negative 35 points in this one.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I think it's fair. I think I'd say this deal is fair. The Colts have all these options on the board to move back a couple of spots here. I imagine maybe one of those left tackles or edge rushers could still be on the board for them. So let's go ahead and accept that trade to do this simulation here, 38 and 69 or 21 at the Cincinnati Bengals. And we are back up on the board for the first time,
Starting point is 00:13:56 Steven at pick 38 in this year's draft, looking at the left tackles here, edge rushers as well. I'm going to pull the boards here on PFF. We do have a lot of good options here still on the board the edge rushers are pretty much gone here Stephen we still do have guys in the 54 range who can make sense there but looking at left tackle here we have Dylan Radins out of North Dakota State, Tevin Jenkins of Oklahoma State and Sam Cosme out of Texas there it kind of feels like to me Stephen I always want to throw this in there because
Starting point is 00:14:21 the with the next pick series dropped this evening here on Wednesday night. And we've known this for a while from listening to the show, that blurred out picture with Frank Reich and Carson Wentz. That was Sam Cosme prototype. I feel like here, with the athletic scores he's had, he's a 9.99 RAS score, one of the best overall in this year's class. One of the most athletic left tackles to come out here in the last few years. It kind of feels like to me after moving back that Sam Cosme could be their guy here, Stephen. Yeah, I tend to agree with you. It's something that you and I talked, we exchanged messages back and forth about it earlier tonight, actually. And I'm mentioning that the image behind Frank Reich in the meeting with Carson Wentz was totally blurred out today.
Starting point is 00:15:07 The first time they showed the video, it wasn't blurred out at all. The second time, it was just kind of blurred out. And then this time, it was totally blurred out. So I would feel really confident at this point going with Sam Cosme. I think that he's somebody that makes a lot of sense for the Colts. I believe he's got experience on both sides of the line. And so he's one of those guys that I think just makes a ton of sense for the Colts. He's got 21 starts at left tackle.
Starting point is 00:15:36 He's got that athletic score that they really like. He's got length in terms of he's very tall. He's got very quick feet. He's very tall. He's got very quick feet. He's able to get out very good in pass protection. He's very athletic, able to get to the second level. And it'd be a lot of fun to see him just kind of go and go after guys in the second level and be able to just see what he does there
Starting point is 00:16:03 for that left tackle position for the Colts. I think he makes a lot of sense. Before we take Cosme here, Steve, we do have some tradeoffers on the board here to move back some more in this year's draft. The 49ers here at 43 after taking a quarterback early on want to move up here. I don't know who it could be for, but they're five spots back here at 43 overall. I don't know if you feel comfortable doing that, but they're one of the team's interests as well as the division rival Tennessee Titans at 53. I feel like if they are targeting Cosme here,
Starting point is 00:16:28 Steven, you're kind of rolling the dice. It's looking at the Tennessee deal, but maybe you could try to finagle some with the 49ers here. Do you feel like at this point you feel comfortable making a trade back five spots and still getting Cosme? Or do you feel like at this point, the Colts might not want to roll the dice or play it safe and get their guy at 38? I think the Colts will play it safe here. The other thing to consider is San Francisco I don't believe has a third round pick until like pick 103. It's in the comp pick range and so if they were to trade back from 38 to 43 the pick that they would get back in that trade scenario would be 103 and I don't know if Chris Ballard really wants to risk that, especially if a guy like Sam Cosme is the one they're targeting.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Yeah, totally agree with you there. Let's go ahead and lock in Sam Cosme, offense tackle out of Texas. He's a blue star prospect as well. I think one of the best fits overall for the Colts and what their needs are here in this year's draft class. We're going to be back on the board here at 54. And like we mentioned, I mean, just to go out based off Jim Mercy's comments today, I mean, it seems like they are content with wide receiver and tight end.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Maybe they wait until day three to address those needs. Maybe if the board falls their way, that could change. But looking here at cornerback and edge rusher on the board here, Peyton Turner out of Houston is there. We also have a couple more guys on the board at edge rusher that can make some sense. Joe Tryon out of Washington. I know Chris McGaha, their West Coast scout, was actually conducting Joe Tryon's drills at Washington's Pro Day.
Starting point is 00:17:51 That could be really intrigued by him. He was an opt-out this past year at Washington. But he has splashed a lot on tape from what I've seen. Going over the cornerback, though, based off of Ursae's comments today, Ifiedu Melifanui was there, force of 54 to Syracuse. Really checks all the boxes for them. Really good in zone. Very long, Melifon, we was there for 54 to Syracuse really checks all the boxes for them. Really good in zone, very long, lanky,
Starting point is 00:18:08 athletic and elite Raskor as well. Team captain, senior bowl really seems like he checks all the box the Colts look for there. What do you think here, Steven? Before we dive in, there's a couple of trippers in the board here, though. But do
Starting point is 00:18:19 you want to stay put and take a guy here at 54? What's available at wide receiver? Let's check that guy here at 54. What's available at wide receiver? Let's check that out here at wide out. Not really a lot. It looks like those guys got pretty much cleaned out here. The top guys in the PFF is Tylan Wallace, Jalen Darden, and Amon Ross St. Brown.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Nah. All right, yeah, I know sometimes the wide receiver will fall, and that's one of those sneaky positions that I think the Colts might look to go after early if they trade back. Just kind of a gut feeling. Somebody like I've mentioned before, Terrence Marshall Jr. makes a ton of sense for what the Colts like to do. I think if Fede Milofanu makes a ton of sense right here at 54,
Starting point is 00:19:06 especially giving Jim Irsay's comments, and then adding on to the fact that in this scenario, we also have 69, pick 69 coming up. So we're probably going to be able to get an edge rusher that we like at 69. And then being able to get a guy like Milifonwu here just makes me feel a little bit better about the cornerback position. I think he's going to be able to come in, work hard, and play right away. So what kind of trade offers do we have?
Starting point is 00:19:37 Yeah, let's go ahead and look at those trades. There's one on the border from the 49ers, but they don't pick until 102, so I'm just going to go ahead and scratch them out. But division rival Jacksonville wants to move up here from 65. So that's 11 spots back. They have picks here at 65, 106. So I'm not really intrigued by maybe adding a fourth-round pick here, but would you want to move back 11 spots and see if they'll give you,
Starting point is 00:19:56 like, a future second-round pick? Let's see if they'll give them the future second, because at that point you know that it's going to be pretty high. So if they're willing to give the future second here to drop back and then I would I would make that gamble because let's be real Jacksonville is going to probably be pretty bad next year it's going to be a top 40 pick yeah let's go ahead and try that real quick and see what happens wow they accepted that deal Steven so it looks like here that's going to give the Colts another top 35 top 40 pick in next year's draft we're keeping some of that Carson Wentz trade value,
Starting point is 00:20:26 that's a home run trade in my opinion. Yeah, absolutely. I didn't think they would take it, to be totally honest with you. But you know what? Sometimes this is one of those things that we have to realize. The chart sometimes doesn't matter to some teams and that they are going to go after their guy. And this is,
Starting point is 00:20:48 seems to be one of those situations where Jacksonville has a certain player in mind and they're willing to give up that future second round pick to get a guy in the building this year. No wonder why Steven, because it looks like here, they stopped the slide of Najee Harris at 54. So I could easily see why with the running back, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. I mean mean that makes perfect sense too let's go ahead now we're at the top of the third round here steven and we still have ifeado melifon on the board for them at pick 65 looking at the edge rushers here on the board as well
Starting point is 00:21:16 still have joe try on there out of washington looks like uh peyton turner did go during that that simulation but we still do have a lot of intriguing options on the board here. We actually have six trade offers too, as well. Like there's a lot of teams that want to trade up here. Uh, Panthers at 73, Washington at 74,
Starting point is 00:21:32 Cowboys 75. Do you feel like you want to move back again here, Steven? Do you just want to take Melifanwin and not risk it? Um, I probably mean I'm looking to just take Melifanwin and just not risk it at this point. Let's go ahead and do that then, Stephen.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I really like the addition of Ifeodu Melifonwu here. Again, in four spots, that picks 69 from the Bengals. Looking at this, Stephen, let's just talk about Melifonwu for a second. He's a long-rangey guy. With Ursae's comments today about wanting to add an impact corner, I can envision a scenario next year, Stephen, where it's Xavier Rhodes and Ifeodu Melafonwu as your boundary corners, Kenny Moore as your slot option, and then maybe after Rhodes' contract ends next season, you could have, if they still trust Rock Yassin, you could have Melafonwu, Yassin, and Moore be your long-term trio there at corner.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Honestly, yeah. I think that he makes a lot of sense in terms of his length for what the colts like in their the corners he's also physical so you don't have to worry about him as a tackler like you mentioned before i believe he's a blue star prospect as well um he was a i believe he was a team captain he went to senior bowl all that um and so i I feel like he is a guy that could, there's rumors that he could sneak into the later end of the first round from certain people. I know Matt Miller over at the draft scout and now at ESPN has said that he's talked to teams that don't, he's talked, none of the teams that he's talked to have around one or two grain on him. But Milofonwu is a perfect fit in his own scheme based on his tackling
Starting point is 00:23:08 and his length. He's a smart player. He's able to be consistent. It's something that he's not a handsy guy, which is kind of the issue that obviously Rakusin had. He's got quick feet. He's able to flip his hips and run if he has to. But his best situation is his own, and that's obviously –
Starting point is 00:23:34 anybody that's listened to this podcast should know at this point that's the system that the Colts play is they play a zone defense. So he makes just a ton of sense there. At 65, we're able to get our guy. So I feel really confident about that. Let's lock in Ifeodum Elifon, the cornerback out of Syracuse here at pick 65. We're back on the board here in a couple spots at pick 69.
Starting point is 00:23:57 At this point, Stephen, we have to imagine they're going to address Ed Rusher. It's a big need for the Colts. Maybe take a swing on some guys here. Top of the board here for them rashad weaver edge out of pittsburgh joe tron edge out of washington are the top two guys on the board here i'm kind of leaning towards joe tron here steve we do have a couple trade offers as well on the board here but joe tron is an intriguing guy to me he has all the
Starting point is 00:24:19 athletic tools he's did very good at washington in his sophomore year opted out this past year due to covid 19 but he's one like if he does hit he has all the physical measurables to really be an He did very good at Washington in his sophomore year, opted out this past year due to COVID-19. But he's one, like, if he does hit, he has all the physical measurables to really be an impact guy as a three-down guy. Yeah, he makes a lot of sense in terms of his ability. And the one thing that I will ding him on is I just – I feel like Chrisris ballard's gonna want guys that played this year um like for whatever reason it just seems like he's gonna need to gain a little weight um i think to be that that consistent edge but i with the colts system and rusty jones there i think the
Starting point is 00:25:02 colts are going to be able to give him a little bit more weight while still keeping his explosiveness. Because that was his big thing, is he was able to get explosive off the edge and he was able to bend and get under. He has, I believe, an elite RAS score as well. So he's pretty solid. And I feel really comfortable taking him here at 69, especially like you mentioned before, Jim Irsay's comments today, along with what we've all kind of predicted the Colts will do for, what, now four months, that they're going to address the edge position at some point pretty early in the draft, and this would qualify.
Starting point is 00:25:43 I think Tryon makes a lot of sense yeah Tryon is 6'5 260 good arm length to 34 inch arms it's actually longer than guys like Ben Banigou, Tyquan Lewis and Kamoko Ture it's that measurable there as well was a very good athlete as far as vertical jump goes as well as 40 yard dash 80th percentile at 40 yard dash a vertical jump in 72nd percentile so he has the explosiveness as well a little bit of a gamble here on tryon but i think it's something that the colts are interested in like i mentioned before chris magaha the west coast scout actually ran all of his drills so there's obviously has to be some interest in trying from the colt to that standpoint his top
Starting point is 00:26:18 actually athletic comparables here on mockdraftable.com they actually updated their edge rushes here earlier today robert quinn out of north Carolina and Clowden Farrell out of Clemson. I know Farrell hasn't done well in the NFL with the Vegas Raiders, but the athletic profile is certainly there for a guy like Joe Tryon. And Robert Quinn, he's a guy who's played for the Rams in the past, Cowboys, also the Chicago Bears recently. If he's sort of like a Robert Quinn type of player here, Stephen, a good run defender, that's one of his calling cards.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I think try-ons is a good run defender. Effortless motor, too, as well. Never takes plays off. Sort of fits the mold there. But if he does hit, he's a three-down guy for them. BetOnline is the fastest and easiest way to bet on all your sports action. Football might be over, but NBA and the NHL are in full swing. BetOnline covers awards, TV shows, and reality TV.
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Starting point is 00:27:48 That's A-U-D-A-C-Y. Yeah, honestly, yeah, he's pretty good at setting the edge. It makes a lot of sense. I think that he's going to – here's the thing. If he would have played this year, I think that he might have been worked his way into the second round, maybe even, you know, later into the first round range. But the problem with a lot of these guys,
Starting point is 00:28:11 unless you were like a Penny Sewell, a Jamar Chase and Mike Parsons, guys with like a huge name to begin with, it really kind of puts you behind the eighth ball and you're going to slide down. If Tryon was able to keep, keep working out and was able to keep working out and was able to keep up with where he left off after his sophomore year, then again, he makes a ton of sense for the Colts here as a guy that could potentially step in and be able to play right away,
Starting point is 00:28:39 which is not something you normally get with third round picks, especially at the edge position, because it's such a position that you need to have guys that are able to come in and start right away at the edge position. Normally you're taking on day one. And if you get one on day two or three, you're looking at like hopefully a projection that within the next year or two, they're going to be able to step in. Tryon would be able to be able to play in the Colts' game
Starting point is 00:29:06 and feel comfortable with it. Yeah, let's go ahead and lock in Joe Tron, edge rusher, out of Washington with the 69th pick in this year's draft on PFF, their live mock draft. Just real quickly, though, I don't know if you saw this, Steve, but in his latest mock draft update, Daniel Jeremiah actually had Joe Tron going 30th overall to the Buffalo Bills. So I think there
Starting point is 00:29:25 might be some oh wow some buzz around Trown in the NFL community where he could be like a late first early second round guy so getting at 69th overall is a steal in my opinion but looking at his strengths here from Lance Zerline on his NFL draft profile here on NFL.com long athletic frame has just about every trait teams look for in edge rushers decent play strength tough enough the point of attack can shed ends quickly when hands are right hand skills flash as well and run defense and he grinds and moves a proper knee base and he's also it says burst the quarterback is no joke and out and it's still comfortable dropping and covering if need be so he definitely does have the traits the Colts look for there so Joe try on out of Washington we're going to lock in here with a 69th pick in this year's draft on PFF.
Starting point is 00:30:06 We're back on the board here, though, Stephen, at 127. We've addressed so far offense tackle with Sam Cosme, EFEDU Malafonu with a cornerback, Joe Tryon with edge rusher. Have to imagine here, Stephen, at the beginning of day three for the Colts, they're going to be trying to add a weapon here for Carson Wentz. Yeah, my guess is you early on day three that they'll be looking at the tight end position, specifically potentially wide receiver. But those are the two that I would kind of focus on, especially after drafting left tackle
Starting point is 00:30:41 corner and edge rusher there with the first three picks. I feel pretty confident that they're going to go add a weapon for Carson Wentz here. Yeah, on the board here at 127, I have the tight ends and wire Sears Pope on PFF's big board. Tommy Tremble, our guy on there, Dame is here at 127. Going to the wider receivers here, Nico Collins out of Michigan tops their board as well. I feel like it's between those two guys here, Stephen. Where would you lean between Tremble and Nico Collins? That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:31:09 I think Tremble makes more sense for the Colts just because he's got more of what they look for in the tight end. And you got to think that Jack Doyle, he's struggled recently. And, you know, Mo Ali Cox is going to be a free agent and unrestricted free agent next year. And so the Colts are going to need to address the tight end position. And plus, obviously Frank Rake loves the tight end position. So he loves to play with multiple tight end sets. The one thing about Nico Collins is I really like him as a prospect. He's got some things to work on.
Starting point is 00:31:51 So for him, it'd be more like taking him to kind of try to stash. And I know the Colts are really high on Desmond Patman. And so I would tend to lean towards taking Tommy Tremble here. And I know we've done it in the past, so it kind of is a bit of a lame pick that we've already talked about. But Tommy Tremble just makes so much sense for the Colts in what he can offer in both the pass game and as a blocker. I tend to agree with you there, Stephen.
Starting point is 00:32:21 I think Nico Collins would be an interesting dice roll here. If he does hit, he'd be a great complement in this offense, but I think more so with these X-type receivers. They have Michael Pittman Jr. We know how high Frank Reich and Chris Bauer and the rest of the Colts organization is on Michael Pittman Jr. This might be a little redundant here to take Nico Collins, so we're going to roll with Tommy Tremble. I think he's stylistically one of the best tight end fits for the Colts in this year's draft. You get him at 127 as well, Stephen. That's a home run pick. Yeah, especially get him here in the fourth round.
Starting point is 00:32:51 I think, honestly, if the Colts are going to be able to get Tommy Trimble, it's probably going to be in the third round after either trading back from 21 or having to trade up from the fourth round to get him. And as we found out last year when Chris Ballard was trying to trade up for Danny Pinter, teams just wouldn't trade with him. And as we found out last year when Chris Ballard was trying to trade up for Danny Pinter, teams just wouldn't trade with him. And so it just seems like they're in the later rounds for whatever reason, unless it's really, really in that team's favor. The Colts just aren't getting those trade offers. Let's go ahead, Stephen, and lock that pick in. Tommy Turnbull at 127
Starting point is 00:33:27 for the Colts, Notre Dame tight end. Back on the board here at 165, our fifth round pick for the Colts, and we're going to look at wide receiver as well as safety because it looks like the Colts are very interested in a lot of safety this year's draft. This could be a sweet spot for them as well. Looking at wide receivers first off here on the board, the only guy that was taken at that time was Nico Collins. So it looks like Simi Fahoku out of Stanford is there. Austin Watkins out of UAB. Trey Walker out of San Jose State is another guy here.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Jonathan Adams Jr. out of Arkansas State are some intriguing options. Going to safety here, Stephen, this is a really intriguing list here as well. Tyree Gillespie out of Missouri. Damar Hanlon out of Pittsburgh. James Wiggins out of Cincinnati, and Jacoby Stevens out of LSU top the list there at safety. So I really like Jacoby Stevens. He's one of those guys that I think is going to be underrated. Now, that said,
Starting point is 00:34:24 I think Simi Fuhoku, it might be a really good sleeper for the Colts. Um, just because of everything he offers, he's big. He's, uh, one of those guys that's going to do anything to help the team win. Um, he's really physical at the point of catch. He can get down the field, be a vertical threat. He's tall, 6'4", 220, right around that range. So he's pretty much what Chris Ballard really likes in a wide receiver. I want to say he's also got an elite RAS score as well. And so he makes a lot of sense. I'll say this, Jacoby Stevens is a guy that if we could grab either player at 207,
Starting point is 00:35:09 I would be just incredibly excited. So I don't know which one might be available there or whether they're both going to go in this time. So yeah, Simi Fuhoku, he's got a RAS score of 9.18, which is elite. His three cone was on sub seven seconds is 6.78. He had okay explosive scores, but was pretty quick on the vertical dash. So it's one of those things where Simifuhoku makes a lot of sense. And again, he's a guy that when I've been playing these mock draft games, he's a guy that I've been trying to sneak in here in this round five,
Starting point is 00:35:49 round six range, because I think that he'd be a really good player to sit there and compete with Desmond Patman. And this is one of those guys where I think that he's probably going to be a little bit more consistent than a guy like Nico Collins was. Yeah. And that's a fair thing to say there. Just for those wondering who Simi Fahoku is, he is a wide receiver out of Stanford, a junior this past year.
Starting point is 00:36:11 6'4", 222, has very big hands as well, 10.25-inch hands. And looking at his profile here from LandZeroLineNFL.com, highly coveted blend of height, weight, and speed. Expected to test well, it's been an explosion, which like you mentioned there, Stephen, he did was a plus-nine RAS score. Football runs throughout branches of, weight, and speed. Expected to test well, it's been an explosion, which like you mentioned there, Stephen, you did was a plus nine RAS score. Football runs throughout branches of family tree, good DNA.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Used outside and from the slot, creates big slot matchup issues for smaller corners, and speed to climb past cornerbacks. Also has leverage opportunities for easy crosshairs to the stem. Footwork and body control for sudden catch adjustments above the rim talent with strong hands for jump ball situations.
Starting point is 00:36:45 And focus on that lesson to bring in acrobatic grabs. So something that has very strong hands and one that, like you mentioned, could push Desmond Patman for that WR four spot long term. Fahoku is just another guy that could be a jump ball weapon for Carson Wentz down the line as well. I do like that pick. I believe he was a team captain at Stanford as well. I'm not sure on that, but I believe from what I read, he was a team captain for them. So that definitely fits the mold for them as well, Steven. So let's go ahead and lock in Simi Fahoku, wide receiver out of
Starting point is 00:37:12 Stanford and mix things up here in our mock draft. Because he's one, I think at this point, the Colts would want to target a weapon and then get one here for Carson Wentz with Simi Fahoku, wide receiver out of Stanford at pick 165. Bring me back up on the board here in just a second here, Steven. At the top of the sixth round at on the board here in just a second here, Stephen. At the top of the sixth round at 207, you lean in towards safety here, like you mentioned? I think so. I'm looking at safety and then probably also edge rusher.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Here just to, again, we've talked about this before. It's one of those positions you can never have too many edge rushers. And so I look at safety, edge rusher, maybe even corner, you know, maybe get a bigger corner that you might feel comfortable dropping into that safety role. But I would probably look at safety first and foremost. All right, let's go ahead and look at all those positions you mentioned there at the top of the board. We have safeties, Ashari Crosswell out of Arizona State. Looks like Trey Norwood out of Oklahoma is the other top one. Greg Isworth out of Iowa State. Leon O'Neill Jr. out of Texas A&M.
Starting point is 00:38:11 And Trey Dean out of Florida. Top of the list here at safety at 206. Looking as well at cornerback, Shamarajin Charles out of Appalachian State is the top corner on the board for them at this point. And Marco Ball at IU is the second one on their list at corner. Dio Medor, Leemore out of Oregon as well, tops the list. And then going to edge rusher here, Jonathan Cooper out of Ohio State and Patrick Jones out of Pittsburgh top the list at edge rusher PFS.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Yeah, not in love with those options. The guy that I think might go a little higher than some people think is Darren Hall. I don't know if he's available as a cornerback out of San Diego State. He's a guy that I think could potentially, you know, kind of sneak into this mid-late round there uh just because he makes a lot a lot of sense um for what he does he's got an elite at um lean razz score um 8.01 so he's not super super great he's a little bit smaller um you know 511 188 so He's not small, but he's not as long as some of the other guys. What do we have at interior
Starting point is 00:39:32 offensive line? Let's check out that list real quick. Looks like here, checking this out while I pull it up, I know there's always intriguing options here at interior offensive line here on day three. Michael Minnette, center out of Penn State. David Moore out of Grambling State. Tristan Hodge out of BYU. And Tommy Kramer out of Notre Dame, top of the list here.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I know we've already done Kramer before, so I'm not going to probably go back to that as of right now. Yeah, this one's, this one's a little bit harder. Cause normally we've got a guy that we feel really comfortable with. Quite honestly, the one that I might feel the most comfortable with kind of this group that we've run off might be Shemarjean Charles. Just because he's got that, that relationship with the coach there from Appalachian State. And so that might be the one where I, I lean
Starting point is 00:40:37 in this situation. But yeah, I'm not, I'll be honest. I'm to this point where I'm looking at these guys and I'm not in love with any of them. What was the edge rushers again? Edge rushers were Jonathan Cooper out of Ohio State and Patrick Jones out of Pitt. Yeah, what do you think, Evan? I mean, honestly, I might lean just towards the connection, like you mentioned, with James Roach, Shamar, Gene Charles. It's because we know that Mike DeRese, their high
Starting point is 00:41:09 East Coast scout, was at his pro day. He ran their drills as well. So there's obviously some interest in the Colts and in Shamar, Gene Charles. I'd either go with him or Demodore Leenwar here out of Oregon. I know the Colts were interested in him as well. Honestly, I mean, I know Gene Charles is at the Shrine Bowl as well as a team captain. So he fits the blue star mold for them as well. So just banking on character here with what we know about how the Colts love that guy. I think I'd just lean here, Shamar, Gene Charles, and you could have him and Isaiah Rogers battled out for that backup nickel spot. Yeah, you know what that you convinced me I feel really confident about it now.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Let's go ahead and lock it in. Then Shamar Jean Charles, corner out of Appalachian State, will be battling it out with Isaiah Rodgers in camp. And he fits the Blue Star mold as well. So let's just go ahead and lock in here at the sixth round. Shamar Jean Charles at Appalachian State. We're back up on the board here now, Stephen, with our seventh round pick. And it looks like here, looking at the list, we have interior offensive line.
Starting point is 00:42:06 We have safety as well. We have at the safety list, we have Trey Nord out of Oklahoma, Leon O'Neill out of Texas A&M, and Marcus Murphy out of Mississippi State top of the list here. And then for interior offensive line, we do have Tommy Kramer on the board here still at 248. Honestly, at this point, I would probably go with Kramer just because he's such a a good
Starting point is 00:42:26 he's a versatile depth lineman um and i think that chris ballard brought in a bunch of linemen obviously this offseason i think he'd be more than happy to bring in tommy kramer um he's a offensive lineman out of notre dame that would just add to that competition and potentially be able to take one of those spots. And if Tommy Kramer can come in and take in one of those spots of the guys that Chris Ballard signed, it might be able to boost back up the compensatory formula because there's a weird caveat to that formula
Starting point is 00:42:58 that if the player that would originally qualify is cut by the fourth week of the season, then that player no longer counts against the compensatory pick formula calculation. So I would probably go with Tommy Kramer here. I think he'd be good, solid, young depth for the offensive line, which is something that Colts need. Yeah, let's go ahead and lock that in. I mean, I'm on board.
Starting point is 00:43:21 That's really if Colts has been listening to our line mock drafts for a while. It's kind of been our guy here in the sixth, seventh round. He just makes a lot of sense. Competition, a leader at Notre Dame. We know Chris Bauer loves to add some offensive line depth, which he does so here at 248. We're going to lock in Tommy Kramer out of Notre Dame to add our second Notre Dame Fighting Irish to our draft board here.
Starting point is 00:43:38 But that's the end of our mock draft here, Steve. Just to go over our mock draft real quick for the listeners again. We moved back from 21 with Cincinnati. We gained 38 and 69. We got Sam Cosme, who was one of our top targets at 21, on the board there at 38 for us still. We take him there. We moved back from 54 with Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:43:55 They give us, surprisingly enough, 65 in a future second-round pick, which is going to be huge for next year. We get Ifeate Melofonwu out of Syracuse at 65. Four picks later, Joe Tron out of Washington as a gamble at edge rusher. If he does, hey, he's going to be a long-term piece for the Colts as well at 69. Tommy Trimble at 127. He's a home run pick. Simi Fahoku, wide receiver out of Stanford, is a jump ball type of guy who could really compete with Desmond Patman long-term for that outside spot. And then Shamar Jean, Charles Appalachian State,
Starting point is 00:44:25 and Tommy Kramer out of Notre Dame finish off our mock here. So we have two tradebacks. I think the Colts do very well with Cincinnati and Jacksonville. And with all of our picks here, Steve, I feel like almost all these guys could contribute next year, especially what Jim Irsay said on Wednesday about adding an edge rusher left tackle and corner. Cosme Melifonu and Tryon easily all could be huge rotational pieces,
Starting point is 00:44:46 especially for Cosme, Melifon, probably day one starters. Yeah, I think you get three or four guys that could be able to start on day one out of that with Cosme, obviously. Melifon could start, Joe Tryon could start, and Tommy Trimble. Don't forget about him. We got him in the fourth round in this one. You know, it's funny because throughout these mock drafts, we have some drafts that we absolutely love top to bottom.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Some that we're just like, eh, okay with for this one. I really liked those first four picks, first five picks, but then you get to like six, seventh round. I'm going, Hey, you know, I don't know how much I love all this. I don know, I don't know how much I love all this. I don't know how much I love these players that I've taken. I know they make sense for what the Colts do. And I imagine a lot of teams go through that, too, is, you know, they're obviously going to come out and put on a brave face and say, we love every guy that we took. They were the top guy on our board at the time and give you all of this.
Starting point is 00:45:43 But realistically, you're not always going to be totally happy with it. Now, I am very happy with the guys we took there in rounds one through five. I feel very confident about that. But, you know, it was six and seven. I was like, eh, all right. But at the same time, round six, round seven, you're just hoping at that point. You're hoping that they're able to develop and make a difference on your team. You don't pick those guys to be your starters because if you are picking round six, round seven guys to be your starters, your team is in dire straits.
Starting point is 00:46:16 You are the Houston Texans. You are the Jacksonville Jaguars. You're just hoping that somebody can come in and play. Thankfully for the Colts, I don't think they're ever going to be in that situation for as long as Chris Ballard is the general manager. Yeah, I think it's fair to say too here, Stephen, we saw it last year with their sixth, seventh round picks like Robert Winster out of Penn State. Like you could stash these guys in the practice squad too, how much depth they have. You could see Shomar Regine Charles and Tommy Kramer be on their practice squad all year as highly protected guys. Even Simi Pahoku as a fifth round pick, like if Devin Patman comes out and performs well in camp, like he could be a and Tommy Kramer be on their practice squad all year as highly protected guys. Even Simi Pahoko is a fifth-round pick.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Like if Devin Patman comes out and performs well in camp, like he could be a practice squad guy even as a fifth-round pick just with how the depth is with this roster, Stephen, which doesn't show you just how well Chris Ballard's built this roster, honestly. PFF actually gave us a grade here in our live mock draft 5.0 of a B+. That's very good for PFF's grading system. But honestly, Stephen, like with the way the Colts have built the roster if they add in a left tackle a corner an edge rusher another weapon or two for
Starting point is 00:47:10 Carson Wentz they're pretty set across the board yeah they really are they like in terms of their frontline starters the Colts are probably one of the better teams in terms of talent in the league with the exception obviously of of left tackle, defensive end, and really their starting cornerbacks are pretty good. I want to say Xavier Rhodes was one of the top three or five corners last year in terms of opponents' passer rating against him. He was crushing it last year. And so the Colts top of the line starters
Starting point is 00:47:46 are all pretty good, um, at every other position. And then you, you add in the left tackle, you're able to plug somebody in and all they have to be is adequate because the rest of the offensive line is so good for the Colts that you can kind of hide that left tackle and give him time to develop while still getting reps, which is kind of crazy to say, because you don't normally see that in the left tackle. But yeah, the Colts would be, they're in really an ideal position.
Starting point is 00:48:16 And again, we've said this over and over. This happens to be a really good draft at the positions that the Colts need. And it's really weird how it's happened now, like two or three years in a row where the Colts have a very specific position that they need to address. And it happens to align with that draft. And it just so happens, this is, the Colts really lucked out that this is the year Anthony Cassanza decided to retire because this is just the deepest left tackle draft we've had.
Starting point is 00:48:47 And as long as I can remember, honestly, you've got like seven or eight guys that can come in and start right away. And that's just amazing to me. Steven, I always enjoy having you on, and I know our listeners enjoy it as well. Colts fans, go ahead and follow him on Twitter if you have not already at NiceReachSteve. Go listen to his podcast as well over on stampedeblue.com. But, Stephen,
Starting point is 00:49:06 appreciate the time. I don't know if we have any back on here. I imagine the next couple weeks here is thankfully, and it's going to be fun here, about two weeks away from the NFL draft. Yep. Thanks, Evan.

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