Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - Colts Live Mock Draft 6.0

Episode Date: April 21, 2021

On today's episode, Evan is joined by Stampede Blue's Stephen Reed for their newest live mock draft! Entering Live Mock Draft 6.0, what happens for the Colts in this go-around?Mixing things up sitting... in the GM seat for Indy, Evan and Stephen decide to make some aggressive decisions on prospects. It's time to risk it all in this version of our live mock drafts. What ends up happening once prospects with injury and/or character concerns are cleared?Turns out, PFF's mock draft simulator loved it because it's the highest grade we've received so far in the end. Who ends up being drafted by Indy?With a week before the 2021 NFL Draft, this is a must-listen episode, Colts fans! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You are Locked On Colts, your daily Indianapolis Colts podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Hello everybody, welcome back into your latest episode of Locked On Colts, part of the Locked On Podcast Network. Today as always, your host Evan Settery, joined by Stephen Reed of Stand Key Blue. Here for our second to final mock draft here, Stephen. We are at Live Mock Draft 6.0, next week will be Live Mock Draft 7.0. So it's been a really fun installment so far for the listeners out there, Stephen. We are now just about a week away from the draft, and it's one of the best times of the year, Stephen. I mean, what's your thoughts now heading up to about looks like
Starting point is 00:00:48 around nine days away from draft? Hey, Evan, I'm super excited about, you know, it's almost here. That's been the big, big thought. Enough is we talk about all these, all these different prospects, all these different positions where we think that the Colts are going to go, where we think other teams are going to go. And at this point, we're all probably tired of talking about it. We really want the big dance to come. And so, you know, I'm excited for it to come here in nine days and, you know, next Thursday it's going to be here
Starting point is 00:01:23 and we're going to get to finally finally see um who the next Colts player and at the very latest next Friday uh we'll find out who the who the next Colts player is um and so yeah I'm super excited for it I really like the the lead up to the draft um you know just trying to to get an idea get a feel for where teams might might decide to go and you hear different rumors rumors and you try to piece through all the smoke screens that come out right now, like all the different players that are linked to the 49ers at the third overall pick. It's just a lot of fun for me. It's one of the reasons why I absolutely love the draft, even though you come down here
Starting point is 00:02:03 to the final stretch and you're like, all right, let's get it going we got all this excitement um but yeah all of it is it's just so much fun for me and I love the draft and so I'm excited for it to come here in about nine days one thing here standpoint diving into the live mock draft is just going over here the prospects the Colts have visited with so far and I at least have been at their pro days and one thing I take away from at least from like the top 65 guys in this draft class, the first two rounds that the Colts have met with a lot of guys at edge rush and offense tackle. I'll go through the list here.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Edge rusher, Aziz Ojolari, Quiddy Paye, Jalen Phillips, Jason Owe, Gregory Rousseau, Boogie Basham, Joe Tryon, Joseph Asai. Those guys are all going to be going in the first second round of the draft at edge rusher and especially guys like Ojolari, Pei Phillips and maybe Owe those three or four guys there probably going to be first round picks and you go to offensive tackle here
Starting point is 00:02:54 Rashawn Slater Christian Derusaw, Tevin Jenkins Sam Cosme, Liam Eikenberg Alex Leatherwood, Dylan Radins and Brady Christensen all those guys will be in the first second round especially guys like Slater, Derrissaw, and Jenkins. Probably guaranteed first-round picks there.
Starting point is 00:03:12 We don't know about those guys. Slater, especially Slater, he won't be there at 21. Derrissaw, very unlikely he's going to be there at 21. Tevin Jenkins, maybe the same way with the way his stock's going up right now. From what I take away from this, Stephen, is that maybe the Colts are leaning more towards edge rusher than we think because with the way the board is right now, I mean there's a good chance that Ojolari, Paye, Phillips, and Owe, all four of those guys, probably a good chance at least three of those guys
Starting point is 00:03:35 will be on the board at 21. Yeah, it's interesting because one of the things that – when you think about it like this, Sewell Slater Derrish and even Jenkins are all gone that's four guys you know you're probably going to have five quarterbacks off the board at that point so you're looking at nine guys there you're going to have three wide receivers at least maybe Rashad Bateman maybe Terrence Marshall somebody in there you're going to have a one tight end so you're now looking at like 15 guys there that are gone not including the cornerbacks so you've got like two or three cornerbacks you expect to go and you haven't really even considered any of the
Starting point is 00:04:15 addressers at this point so when you when you look at it and you kind of break it down by a position the Colts really might have their shot at whatever edge rusher they they prefer um you know you you think um you know you're gonna have like a linebacker maybe a running back with magic harris go um you know you've got a lot of different guys that are potential you're gonna be they're taking that you're almost locked in to take out of like those first 20 picks like 18 of them are not edge rushers and so you feel pretty confident you know we've heard um i don't know if anybody listens to moving the chains but they talk about how christ Christian Barmore, the defensive tackle at Alabama, the NFL likes him a whole lot more than what the Twitter draft community does.
Starting point is 00:05:14 And so don't be surprised if he goes in the top 15, top 18, because quite honestly, after him, the drop-off in defensive tackle is pretty steep. So you've got a bunch of guys that you kind of expect to go a little bit higher. And it's going to push these addressers down. And again, it's one of those situations where this is the one year where you don't have that elite, elite addresser. But you've got a lot of addressers that have elite talent and elite traits and if you can develop those which the Colts with Brian Baker there at the defensive line like they've got to feel confident about developing talent then you could really get a steal at 21 and like you said
Starting point is 00:05:58 the way that this is kind of playing out and with the different guys that the Colts have met with, it makes me think that they're more likely to go with defensive end there in round one than what then they're going to go with left tackle. If, you know, Christian Derrissaw is there, then I kind of feel like that might be a no-brainer pick for the Colts. But outside of Derrissaw, I don't,, or one of the Alabama receivers, for whatever reason, sliding, I just feel like it's going to be an edge rusher there early. Just because of all the depth of the left tackle position in this draft, it just makes a lot of sense for them to address it in that manner.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Yeah, I totally agree with you there, and especially with how the board lines up. And in seeing the pro days, too, I don't know how much stock we should take into it, just because there's no combine this year, but having Ballard at the pro day for Alex Leatherwood, and having Ballard and Reich at the pro day as well for Liam Eikenberg, two guys are probably in the late first, early to mid second round range. It seems like neither of those guys probably would be an option for them at 21 if they were to stay put, probably more so an edge rusher. If they do trade back, I could easily see both those guys being a legit option there.
Starting point is 00:07:08 But just based off what we know so far, I feel like edge rush is probably the leading candidate in the house here right now. If the Colts do stay put at 21, it's probably because a guy like Jim Phillips passes medicals in the cold side or a Quiddie Pay slips at 21. They really want to not let him get through to another team. But, Steve, let's dive in now to live mock draft 6.0 here, our second to the last one here before our final one next week here. And we're on the board at 21, of course, for Indianapolis Colts.
Starting point is 00:07:33 And there is a lot of action on the board right now, Steve, because I've never seen this amount of trades here on the PFF mock draft simulator. The reason why could be it looks like we have a lot of guys who slipped down the board a little bit. Micah Parsons is on the board at 21ayvon Moore the top safety in the draft from TCU and Elijah Vera Tucker the guard out of USC is on the board as well we have eight teams here Steven who want to call about moving up here with the Annapolis Colts at 21 but we have all the address on the board your force has been no address you're taking so far pay is there Phillips Ojulari. And an offense
Starting point is 00:08:06 tackle, we'll go through the list here real quick before we dive into the trade options. What we have here, Elijah Veritaker, if you want to take him and just slide Quentin Nelson to left tackle, or maybe slide Elijah Veritaker to left tackle if you want to. They also have Tevin Jenkins still there, Dylan Radin, Sam Cosme, Alex Leatherwood,
Starting point is 00:08:22 Liam Eikenberg. Really, all the guys I just mentioned the Colts are interested in are on the board there at 21, Stephen. Do you want to stay put here, or do you want to listen to some of these trade offers? I think I want to listen to some of these trade offers because if we can move down a couple spots, like say to 23 or something like that,
Starting point is 00:08:40 where we're still in a good range to possibly get one of these edge rushers, then I'd feel a lot more confident about that because we can swing around with 54 and be able to grab a left tackle totally agree with you there and let's start off here just going through the list of teams we're not going to entertain here the Texans at 67 are trying to call us we're going to scratch them out it's way too far of a drop the Rams at 57 I think it's too far of a drop as well and in two teams in the second round or in the mid-second round trying to call us to move up here in an aggressive fashion. The Cardinals at 49 and the Patriots at 46. But then we have four teams in the first round and within the next 10 picks who want to try to move up here. The Chiefs at 31, the Ravens at 27, the Browns at 26,
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Starting point is 00:11:34 I would probably reach out to the Jags because they've got a couple of second-round picks that are going to be pretty early, I believe. Yeah, they have 33 and 45 as well as 65 at the top of the third round. Yeah, so that's who I would reach out to first and see if I could pick up that early second-round pick along with this one. See, maybe. Yeah, I imagine they're probably trying to move up here to get Trayvon Morig.
Starting point is 00:12:02 They've been linked a lot to him in a lot of mock drafts with people who know the ins and outs of the Jaguars. Micah Parsons, too, makes a lot of sense in Jacksonville, even Barrett Tucker. So that could make it hard for a desperate team like Jacksonville who wants to win pretty soon, I imagine. Urban Meyer there drafting Trevor Lawrence. They want to make a move here for one of those guys, I imagine. So let's go ahead and dial up the Jacksonville Jaguars here. We're going to send an offer out. They have 25, 33, 45. Let's try to get 25 and 33. That's an insane haul on the trade value chart, but let's see if they even bite on that.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Wow. Okay. Well, that was easy. No, they said yes. Nice. So we got 25, 33, and 54 within the next 30 picks. That's fantastic. Because sometimes teams are willing to go up. My guess is they probably went up for Micah Parsons in this scenario. Yeah, they did. And when you get a guy like that, this is where sometimes teams get desperate, and they're willing to give up a little, a lot more than what the next,
Starting point is 00:13:05 the trade value chart would dictate because they want to go up and get their guy. I imagine that the Jaguars probably felt pretty comfortable in. This is something that if you remember back when Chris Ballard traded out of the first round entirely a couple of ago. And they dropped back. I think it was with the Washington football team. He dropped back like 19 spots. But they had the 34th pick in that draft.
Starting point is 00:13:35 And so it makes it a little easier for a team to give up a little bit more or to give up a little bit more, knowing that they've got another pick right around the corner. So for Jacksonville, I believe they probably kept like the 42nd pick or something like that. So they're still going to be able to get a really quality guy in the second round. So it really does make sense for both teams in this scenario. Yeah, and especially the Colts now having two picks in the next eight,
Starting point is 00:14:01 like that's a pretty incredible haul, especially the top of the second round. Now they kind of control their own destiny there like to have the last couple years with rocky ascent and michael pitman jr but we're on the board now here at 25 there is no tradeoff for steven but looking at who went before he had michael parsons greg russo went quitty pay went a couple edges are off the board now sam cosme who's been a link to the colts also went before here at 25 so we have a lot of the guys still from the board here, Stephen, outside of Cosme and Pei, who I think are of interest to us. But who makes sense here for you at left tackle and at edge rusher?
Starting point is 00:14:34 I don't know who's left on the board. Let's go ahead and look at left tackle here. Barrett Tucker's still there, but I think he's more so a guard. I just don't want to risk it with him and Quentin Nelson. I think he's a great prospect, but I'd probably lean toward no on him. Tevin Jenkins is there at left tackle. Leatherwood, Radins, Eichenberg. Going to edge rusher here. Jalen Phillips, medical question is a huge thing with him. Aziz Ojulari, Jason Owe is there as well.
Starting point is 00:15:00 So there's a couple of guys, a lot of question marks at edge rusher, but guys with very high intriguing traits the Colts probably are interested in. Out of those names there, who intrigues you the most? What about corner and wide receiver? Let's go ahead and look at corner and wide out here. Wide out, the top guy on the board here on PFF is, looks like Elijah Moore out of Ole Miss, and we have Rondell Moore and Kadarius Toney at wide out.
Starting point is 00:15:23 And then going over here to corner, let's go ahead and check out who's on the board at corner. Looks like all the corners are pretty much wiped out here. The top guy on the board is Asante Samuel Jr., but he's more so like a second. All right. Well, in that case, I'm probably, since here's my calculus on this, since we're now picking 33rd as well,
Starting point is 00:15:46 I feel a little bit more comfortable going and taking maybe an edge rusher like a Jalen Phillips, a guy who arguably is the top – could be the top defensive end in this class if his medicals all check out. So that's kind of where I'm leaning. Also, I think you said Jason Owe is there as well. I believe you said that he's a blue star prospect. And he would be a guy that would make sense in terms of the athletic profile. production at Penn State this past year. Jalen Phillips at least was able to put something on tape that I can look at and it's tangible and I can see it. I'm like, all right, that's legit. He could do it. Aziz Ojolari is another guy that I think would make a lot of sense for the Colts here. So I think I'd probably narrow it down to Jalen Phillips and Aziz Ojolari in this case.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Yeah, I agree with you there. Ojolari, like I mentioned, does fit the character box there. But if the Colts do pass Jalen Phillips in the medicals, I would run up the card right now for Jalen Phillips because I think he's just a three-down guy who can be opposite to Forrest Buckner and create a lot of havoc there. It's a big question, though, Steve, because, I mean, we saw with the Colts back in 2019, they made that trade with the Redskins,
Starting point is 00:17:04 the Washington football team now, for Montez Sweat, who was on the board there for them, he had a medical question. They trade out because their team doctors did not clear Montez Sweat. You have to wonder if the Colts are one of those teams who doesn't want to take risk on medical guys. I've rarely seen the Colts, especially in the Bowerd era, take a flyer on a guy who's been injured. Yeah, the only one that really comes to mind is Malik Hooker.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Although, you know, I'll throw this out there Julian Blackman was coming off an ACL injury and they they took him there in the third round um you know he'll they'll do it but I think the difference for Montez Sweat in that situation was his was a heart issue yeah um and so that's a that's a much bigger one than say like a knee or something where like they're gonna come back to some level versus Montez Sweat it was really a kind of a coin flip and Mo Hurst recently released from the Raiders um was the same thing he was arguably a top five top ten guy in that draft, but he had a very concerning heart issue where the teams took him off and were really upset with the Raiders for even drafting him. So I think I would probably lean Jalen Phillips just because in terms of
Starting point is 00:18:18 upside, if the medicals check out, and at this point we're assuming that they do, if the medicals check out for Jalen Phillips point, we're assuming that they do. If the medicals check out for Jalen Phillips, I think that he's got the biggest upside and probably the most just raw talent as an edge rusher and would be just a perfect fit there in the Colts defense. Totally agree with you there. Let's go ahead and lock in Jalen Phillips, edge rusher out of Miami, trade back four spots at Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Going to be back on the board here in a couple picks at the top of the second round with a huge trade that they made to go up and get Micah Parsons for the Jaguars to go opposite Miles Jack. But the Colts in this scenario get Jen Phillips to go to Forrest Buckner. I think that's a very exciting thing for Colts fans that are listening to this right now. But let's go ahead, Stephen, and we're back on the board here at 33.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Really, at this point, we've got to target either a playmaker or a left tackle. Going on the board here at wideout. Same guys I mentioned before. Diami Brown is also there out of North Carolina. Left tackle, though, these seem like the guys the Colts are really in on, just from what we've seen at Pro Days and stuff like that. Dylan Radin's out of North Dakota State. I know they've been in contact with him.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Alex Leatherwood is there as well. Ballard was at his Pro Day. Liam Eikenberg, same thing. It feels like these three guys here are probably the guys that are probably at the top of the board for the Colts right now. I agree, Evan. I think that going – this is possibly Chris Fowler's dream right here is to be able to drop back a couple spots, get an edge rusher, and then be at the top of the second round to be able to get their kind of pick
Starting point is 00:19:42 of the left tackle so they're not sitting there trying to scramble. they're at 54 needing to possibly trade up to make sure they get their guy I think in this case Dylan Radins makes a lot of sense for them he's got the athletic profile he's a team leader at North Dakota State North Dakota State runs a pretty solid pro style system up there and so he'd be able to to to step in there. There wasn't, he played great at the senior bowl, which is kind of what the big concern was, was playing at North Dakota state and play at a lower level of competition. He didn't really go up against a lot of the big time pass rushers when he went up against them at the senior bowl, he was able to really shut them down. And so that's where I would lean in this. And quite honestly,
Starting point is 00:20:27 I don't like the options at wide receiver at this point. If you don't get the one of the top five, like the wide receiver class, I think is a little bit more top heavy than last year. But last year had a lot more depth. This year has got a lot more like slot guys. And quite honestly, the Colts, if they think Paris Campbell is going to come back and be the guy that they think he is, then the Colts really don't need a slot guy because they've got a couple guys on the roster that they probably feel pretty comfortable with there.
Starting point is 00:20:58 So I would tend to lean left tackle here and I'd probably go with Dylan Radins in this situation. Let me ask you this though, Steve. We do have one tradeoff on the board here from the Chicago Bears, a team who we know is very desperate. Matt Nagy and Ryan Pacer on the clock this year. They're at 52. Would you enter into the possibility of moving back here about 20 spots and maybe get a future second-round pick? In terms of the left tackles where is radins on the list is he the top one still available he's at the top of pff's board but we still do have leatherwood and eikenberg
Starting point is 00:21:37 though we do since bowden and reichardt their pro days here i'm kind of intrigued to see if maybe those are their top two guys. Yeah, they might be. Here's the thing. If I were going to trade back with Chicago, I would honestly, I would sit there and I would try to get their first round pick next year. And if I can't get that, because you got to think you're dropping 54 spots here or you're dropping 20 something spots here so you got to make it worth it so I would try to get that first round pick next year if not I would go for the second round pick and try to pick up maybe their third round pick in the process so like they're 52 their third round, and then go after – so, what, 52, 83, and then their future second and see if they would take that.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Let's try that real quick, see what happens. They did not accept that. So, are you intrigued by maybe just do 54 in a round two in next year's class? Because if it – there is a chance that all could really hit the fan there in Chicago. Andy Dalton's their starting quarterback. So if that flames out there, like that could be –
Starting point is 00:22:50 It could be a really high second pick. Yeah, that could be like a top ten pick in the second round, another top 40 pick for Ballard next year. Yeah, let's try it and see what they do. I think they'll probably accept it. Yeah, they ended up accepting that 52 and as round two for Chicago in 2022 we dropped back we still got Jalen Phillips and we're gonna still be able to get a really recoup the Carson Wentz trade as well in the process we end
Starting point is 00:23:17 up getting a second round pick in next year's draft we're back on the board though here at 54 and this has been great for us. It looks like here Eichenberg and Leatherwood did go as well as Radins. So we did drop back a little bit and get out of the left tackle market, but there's still Brady Christensen there at 52, and we also have a pick here at 54. So we have two picks in the next three slots here. It seems like to me maybe we could go and focus on corner or a playmaker here because I think Christensen is still going to be there at 54. Yeah, I think Christensen is going to be there at 54.
Starting point is 00:23:51 So I'd feel – because the only team that's going to be in between us is Tennessee and they've got Taylor LeJuan there at left tackle. So I don't feel like they're probably going to go at that spot. So I would honestly – I'd look at corner here. And I would also look at safety. And then I would also try to look at a playmaker, you know, whether it be a tight end, like a Pat Freermuth or, you know, I'm not sure what's going to be there at wide receiver. Again,
Starting point is 00:24:19 I've got a certain style wide receiver. I feel like we could get a guy like a Nico Collins or a Simi Fuhuku or even an Amir Smith-Marset just going to mix things up in link round four. So I'm not as big at spending a high pick on a wide receiver if it's not for one of those top five. So that's kind of where my thought process is, is try to look at corner, safety, and then, you know, maybe tight end here at 52. Yeah, looking at the list here at wide receiver, tight end, and cornerback, the top tight end on the board here is Tommy Tremble. We do know he usually slips on PFF's board, though,
Starting point is 00:24:56 so I think 52 might be a little rich here for Tommy Tremble. Ifeatu Melafon was their top corner on the board, as well as Kelvin Joseph out Kentucky. We know they were at Syracuse's pro day for Melafon. He was a senior bowl guy, a blue star prospect, so he makes a lot of sense there. Diami Brown out of North Carolina, the top wide out on the board. They were at North Carolina's pro day, the Colts were they represented there. So he could be an intriguing guy as a vertical threat to replace T.Y. Hilton after this year.
Starting point is 00:25:21 So you'd have Diami Brown, Paris Campbell, and also Michael Pittman Jr. So really, those are the top guys there. You also can throw in Eric Stokes, corner out of Georgia to that list, a really speedy guy. So there's a lot of intriguing guys here to take flyers on at corner and wide out. Yeah, I kind of want to lean towards either in the cornerback position to either go with Milifonu or Kelvin Joseph. Kelvin Joseph is interesting because I believe he's a former LSU player. So he's got some pretty elite talent because you don't get recruited to LSU if you don't have something special about you. So I kind of lean towards Joseph. But Melifonwu is, I believe, like you mentioned before, he's a blue star guy.
Starting point is 00:26:17 He's a team leader. He's got incredible length, too. So that's the one thing where I look at Melifon when I go, all right, he would also make a lot of sense here. Yeah, it's really an intriguing one here because I would have hoped a guy like Pat Frymuth would be there. He actually went a couple spots here before us. I think I would have ramped the card here for him just because I think a tight end and his fit in this Colts offense is really good. But I mean, looking outside of that, I would lean towards corner like you mentioned there. I think just the way that wideouts stacked up this year, I think the Colts really like Zach Paschal.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I mean, I know we haven't talked about much in the podcast, Stephen, just because he just signed his tender a couple days ago. But Chris Bauer was comfortable enough to let T.Y. Hilton walk forward. Jim Irsay stepped in. Like, I think the Colts internally are a very big fan of Zach Paschal. BetOnline is the fastest and easiest way to bet on all your sports action. Football might be over, but NBA and the NHL are in full swing.
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Starting point is 00:27:57 of zach paschal um and he's he's kind of like that that poor's hindsward. He just kind of makes plays. When you ask him to, he goes in, does the dirty work, he blocks. You love him as a fan just with how hard he works. And the Colts clearly love him too. I think that I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get some kind of contract extension to be able to stay with the Colts. The one question I have is, do we have any trade offers right now? Unfortunately, we don't.
Starting point is 00:28:29 But if you want, maybe we could try to. I mean, we're even looking on the board here. I want to move back a little bit. No, I'm good taking a guy like Kelvin Joseph or if it's you, Melifonu. I'm never going to get that name right. So because of that, I kind of lean Kelvin Joseph no yeah um I kind of lean Kelvin Joseph quite honestly I know that he's kind of all over the
Starting point is 00:28:52 place but he's physically able to do a whole lot and my concern with Malafonu is that he you know he's got all these testing numbers that's going to be good, and he's got great coverage ability. But there's just – I don't know. I kind of want to just take the risk with Calvin Joseph, which inevitably means that's the wrong decision because Chris Ballard doesn't take risks. So, yeah. Yeah, I mean, quite honestly, though, Stephen,
Starting point is 00:29:25 I mean, the Colts are in a position where they can take kind of like a risk here at corner because they still have Xavier Rhodes in a one-year deal. This is a situation where Kelvin Joseph, if his character does check out for the Colts, like this is not like Jacob Eason. Eason didn't have character problems. He did slip down the board because I think a lot of teams thought he just wasn't like really into it.
Starting point is 00:29:43 But Kelvin Joseph is really the same way. he if you have him mentored by Xavier Rhodes for a year you could be in a situation where he does click and he does fit this scheme and he could be your long-term cornerback one and having Xavier Rhodes kind of his mentor for a year and he doesn't really like to play much next year because you have Rocky Sim that's true yeah I I kind of do want to take the risk with Kelvin Joseph here, just because he's got just, I think, a bigger, a higher ceiling than Malafonu does. And so you go ahead and take the risk. The good thing about the Colts with taking Jalen Phillips first in the first round is that if you're able to get,
Starting point is 00:30:25 if the Colts are finally able to really get a consistent pass rush, it's going to mean that the corners don't have to be perfect. And you want a guy like a Calvin Joseph that's going to be able to go up and make a play on a ball and that can be a little bit aggressive. You feel a little bit more comfortable that in this defense. So I say we go ahead and take a swing with Calvin Joseph here. Let's go ahead and lock it in. Kelvin Joseph, corner out Kentucky at 52. Back on the board here at 54, Stephen. Unfortunately, there is no trade offers. If you want to, you can try to maneuver on the board
Starting point is 00:30:53 and move back a little bit and get a third-round pick. But we did, of course, get that second-round pick from Chicago after moving back at the top of the second round. But the left tackle here, I think, is the top knee here for the Colts that they want to stay put. And it's really a debate here between Brady Christensen and BYU. And a guy we haven't talked about much in the podcast because we just haven't heard him been linked to the Colts much,
Starting point is 00:31:11 but he does fit if he does check out medically, which is Walker Little out of Stanford. He has PFFs actually. He's been their top tackle this whole time on their board. He might just be slipping just because of the injury risk the last two years. He opted out this past year. He had a knee injury the year prior, so he hasn't played since his true sophomore year.
Starting point is 00:31:30 But he does check the measurable boxes. At his pro date, he's almost 6'8", 315 pounds, has the arm length at around 33 3⁄4", so he doesn't have small arms. He ran the exact same 40-yard dash as Andy Costanzo did, and he did have really good numbers in the broad jump in the three cone drill. He's a guy that intrigues me. If the Colts do think that Walker Little could be a day one starter,
Starting point is 00:31:49 it's a risk. Of course, he hasn't played in two years, but he's a guy. It's a, it's a really good debate between Walker Little and Brady Christensen as far as athlete goes versus the potential. Yeah. Walker Little is definitely interesting. Like you said, he hasn't really played in two years. So that's, that's obviously the big concern with him. You know, he was the number one guy coming out,
Starting point is 00:32:14 the number one left tackle coming out of high school. He played well. I think he's like one of the first freshmen to start at Stanford at the left tackle spot. And so the big question is the medicals. If he checks out and he can play, he's an absolute steal here at the end of the second round. Now, the question is, will they check out? At this point, we've already taken a risk with Jalen Phillips there.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Um, and so I don't mind taking the, the jump with Walker little here, um, you know, to try to mix things up. I know PFF is very, very high on him. Um, you know, I was hoping to see him play this year after having the knee injury last year. Um, but unfortunately he obviously was didn't. Um, and so that, that's a tough part. We've talked about Brady Christensen before.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I don't know if we've taken him before in mock drafts. Um, I feel like we probably have at this point. Um, so I would, I'd be fine taking a little bit of a risk with Walker Little here at 54. I mean, quite honestly, Stephen, this might be just like the risk at all version of our live mock drafts because we have gone with, like you mentioned, Jalen Phillips. We have Kelvin Joseph on the board at 52 from the Bears trade, who is a character risk.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I mean, Walker Little, I mean, he does check out. He could be your long-term anti-Costanza 2.0. They have very similar athletic measurables. I'm going to go ahead and pull up his profile here on NFL.com from Lance Zerline. He does great work over at NFL.com with all these player profiles. Looking at Walker Little on here, and Zerline mentions here he's a round two guy. His comparison is a Luke Jokel type. He said athletic proportional frame, great in pass sets has great feet good flexibility
Starting point is 00:34:06 in the hips able to pull and be natural at pass protection and pulling as well has feet to sustain against moving targets in space and his weaknesses obviously are the injury history and maybe just being able to be more refined there I think more so with little I mean if he does hit that's a guy that really has the potential there. He's a traits guy too. Like we know Chris Bauer loves the traits. He has the long arms. He has the great height as well.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I mean, why not? Like you mentioned, Steve, why not just take the risk here at Walker Little at 54? If he banks and hits, like that's a top two, top three offense tackle from this draft class. So do you want to lock in Walker Little, PFF's 26th rated player on their board? Yes. yes.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Let's go ahead. Let's risk it all this draft. Let's take some swings, see if we hit some home runs. Let's go ahead and lock it in. And Walker Little, offense tackle out of Stanford. Real quick before we are on the board here at 127, it's about 50 picks away, so the simulators are still going. What's your thoughts on if the Colts were to do something like this
Starting point is 00:35:03 where they take kind of an injury risk with Phillips and Walker Little, but the potential, if those guys both check out medically from Indy and they hit, like those are guys who could be top 20 players both from this draft class. Yeah, and that's the question. If they're injury – if the Colts take these guys, that means their medicals all check out. Because, quite honestly, Chris Ballard's been pretty conservative.
Starting point is 00:35:27 He trusts the doctors and what they're going to say. So if they take these guys and their medicals check out, Jalen Phillips probably, you know, if not for the medicals, is probably a top 10 pick in this draft. And I don't think that that's, you know, hyperbole. I don't think that that's, you know, hyperbole. I don't think that that's just me blowing smoke here. I think that he legitimately has that type of talent to be a top 10 pick. Walker Little, if he played last year and kept progressing, like it's very hard to go
Starting point is 00:35:59 to a program like Stanford and start as a left tackle because there is such a transition between a high school game and a college game, just like there is such a transition between a high school game and a college game, just like there's such a transition between a college game and a pro game. And so for Walker Little to come step in at Stanford and start on day one, that's really, really impressive to just as a person. He's obviously an intelligent guy. You can't start from day one at Stanford without being intelligent. It has nothing to do with going to Stanford and being intelligent. It's the fact that pass protection schemes, everything are so different from high school to college. if Walker Little checked out based on his frame and his athletic profile and what he had on tape from two three years ago he's probably you're looking at a top 20 pick in this draft he's probably the number two arguably the number two or three offensive tackle in this draft total
Starting point is 00:37:01 and so I would feel really really confident in that because the Colts at that point are taking a risk, but the medicals would have checked out. And so they think they're getting two top 20 guys. They're at 25 and 54 respectively. So I'd feel very, very confident about where this, the direction of the team is heading at that point. Let's hit on here a 127, Steve. And this could be a pretty short one because, I mean, I know we take him all the time in our mock drafts, but to have him here at 127, I think – Yeah, just block and tremble.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Yeah, it's time to tremble. We talk about him all the time on the podcast every week, Steve. But the closer we get to the draft here, I mean, it just feels like to me, even Lance Zerlin was actually on with Kevin Bowen today on 107.5, 10-10, the fan is filling in for Dan Dockageage and Zerlin even mentioned what we've been talking about on the podcast for months now with Tommy Trimble like he mentioned like quote like Frank Wright this is like a Frank Wright Chris Bauer tight end he kicks ass and run blocking he's a great guy as a weapon and blocking in and receiving hasn't shown it much in Notre Dame he needs some
Starting point is 00:38:01 refinement there but he mentioned multiple times like we know Lanzarone's pretty tapped on Chris Fowler, too. Like, he seems like a Chris Fowler, Frank Reich type player. And that kind of stood out to me. Yeah. And it's something that in past, like last year, when I first started studying the tape, I looked at Michael Pittman Jr. I said, in January, I go, this is a Colts player. The Colts are going to take this guy in round two.
Starting point is 00:38:28 That's just what they're going to do. I've no doubt in my mind that he's going to be their pick in round two. And sure enough, as it got along, as we started learning more, we started getting to more film, we started hearing about him, and hearing all the rumors, I just felt more confident about it. This is exactly how I feel with Tommy Trimble is he's this year's Michael Pittman Jr. for the Colts.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Guy that from the very beginning, you kind of looked at it and you're like, yeah, this makes sense. Like this is a Chris Ballard guy. This is a Frank Wright guy. This guy makes just perfect sense for this system and what they want to do. So that's, that's honestly why we keep putting him here. And why we keep taking him here in the fourth round. I honestly think that he's probably going to go a little bit higher than this. So I'm not sure the Colts are going to get a shot at him unless they,
Starting point is 00:39:21 they do something kind of a little bit crazy in round two or they or they fall back and they pick up an extra round three pick. But yeah, Tommy Trimble is just, he just fits. Like, you just feel comfortable with him in this offense. We're back on the board here, Steven, at 165, and we have guys on the board here at Whiteout and Safety who are really intriguing to me we have Simi Fahoku out of Stanford who we picked on our last mock draft who really started to rise up boards now just with his height weight speed profile great character guys well out of Stanford looking at safety as well we have a couple guys here Damar Hamlin out of Pittsburgh James Wiggins out of Cincinnati we also have another guy at Whiteout Jacob Harris out of Pittsburgh, James Wiggins out of Cincinnati. We also have another guy at whiteout, Jacob Harris out of UCF.
Starting point is 00:40:06 The guy kind of blew up his pro day. Ran like a 4'2", 40 at 6'4", something like that, like an athletic freak for a guy that size. But what's your thoughts on the board here at 165? We also do have a tradeoff here from Minnesota where we could slide back here to 168, just three spots, and probably gain a 6th or 7th round pick. Run over the safeties.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Was it Hamlin and Wiggins that were left? So Hansay Nasrildine was gone at that point. Yeah. It looks like here I'm looking through. Yeah, he is gone. Okay. So there's a guy at the safety position that I really like that I think possibly could be a, there's a couple of guys at safety that I really like
Starting point is 00:40:50 that made the PFF. I know is like super high on. So like Christian Uphoff out of Illinois state, he's just a straight playmaker. He's able to, to make plays all over the field. He's got that, that height weight speed that you really like from the safety position. He checks out in terms of the relative athletic score, I believe. And the other one I like a lot that, again, PFF doesn't like. He's the 250th ranked player on their board.
Starting point is 00:41:19 It's Jacoby Stevens out of LSU. Those are two guys. You know what? What's an edge rushers look at right here too? Because this is a, this is always an interesting spot to be able to possibly steal a guy like an Ellerson Smith that we've talked about before, or, you know, maybe a Malcolm Coots out of Buffalo, who I don't think we've actually talked about before. Yeah, looking over the positions right now, we have Shaka Toney out of Penn State, a blue star prospect on the board here, still team captain for Penn State, very good athletic
Starting point is 00:41:54 profile too. Like you mentioned, Malcolm Kuntz out of Buffalo, really bendy guy as well. And we also have Janarius Robinson out of Florida State, barely long guy, the longest wingspan in this class. And we have Hamilcar Rashad Jr. out of Oregon State, still there. A more of a 3-4 type guy, but very long athletic profile too as well. So this could be a spot here if you want to double dip at edge where you could stay put here and get a good guy.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Yeah, because I'd really like to get – and you said Ellerson Smith was gone. He's ranked a little bit lower in BFF, I believe. Yeah, he's – I want to say he's – Yeah, he's 181 there. So yeah, I think Malcolm Koontz might actually be available at 206, so I'm probably going to sway away from him. A guy that I really just think fits what the Colts do in defense is Jacoby Stephens. I think he's kind of a sneaky player that really could be a guy that the Colts go and target. His relative athletic score is 7.82, so not elite, but still it's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:42:56 It's just right below elite. Divine Diablo, I think, is probably gone at this point, probably long gone at this point. Yeah, he's gone. And so, yeah, it's a little bit tough. Yeah, I mean, we can move back here, and we can maybe get a guy like Koontz or Stevens later on in a couple of spots. I mean, Minnesota's on the board here. They want to move up here.
Starting point is 00:43:18 They're offering 168, 199 for 165, get an extra late six-round pick. Yeah, let's do that. Yeah, let's see. Yeah, they did accept that. 165 for 165, get an extra late six-round pick. Yeah, let's do that. Yeah, let's see. Yeah, they did accept that, 165 for 168, 199. We're back up on the board here. The only guy that went off the board in that span that could have been a consideration was James Wiggins, a safety out of Cincinnati, who they actually traded up for in Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:43:39 So we still have all the guys you mentioned on the board there here at 168. Yeah, I think I want to go and kind of take a risk and go with a guy like Jacoby Stevens or Christian Upshaw. Or not, Uphoff. And so, like, yeah, I just kind of – I feel like safety – I know there's talk about the safety i know jim i l the other day talked about um the safety position and the colts not necessarily needing one because their safeties are set and talks about you know kairi willis and i don't
Starting point is 00:44:17 think it's a matter of um that i don't think it's a matter of them needing a guy to start immediately i think they based on the defense they run they're going to want to play something that I don't think it's a matter of them needing a guy to start immediately. I think they, based on the defense they run, they're going to want to play something that's a little bit more that they're able to run those three wide receivers or three safety sets and getting a guy that they think can come in and play right away. For me, it just makes a lot of sense for them to go ahead and do that and take a guy,
Starting point is 00:44:47 you know, like a Christian Uphoff. I don't think we've taken him yet. So I kind of want to, you know, just again, go, go a little bit out on a limb and, and try to go with it. The interesting thing with Jacoby Stevens is he's that tweener. So he's not quite big enough to play linebacker. And so, yeah, I feel like the versatility of a pop makes a lot more sense for me here.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I won 68. Yeah. I'm looking over his profile here on mock draftable and what's intriguing to me. We heard that the culture linked to Keanu Neal before he eventually signed the Dallas Cowboys. And what's surprising to me with Keanu Neal is that we heard a lot of teams were interested in him being like a jack linebacker,
Starting point is 00:45:34 a guy who could come in and play safety and linebacker. And it seems like to me, looking at Christian Huffop's profile here, they put him at linebacker. He is very athletic at the linebacker position, 78th percentile 40-yard dash, 73rd percentile, broad jump, 58th percentile, three-cone, good arm and length, hand size for the position as well. So if you want to get a box safety, a jack linebacker type, I'm down for Alpoff. He was a senior bowl guy too.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Yeah, he's a senior bowl guy. The trouble with him is his tackling, but if he's able to just kind of get a feel for the game, I think that he'll be fine. He's 6'2", 209. Like you said, he's a senior-level guy. I want to say he was a team leader. And so I kind of feel like Uphoff makes a lot of sense here. Let's go ahead and lock it in.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Christian Uphoff, safety linebacker hybrid out of Illinois State here at 168. Colter back on the clock here at 199 from the Minnesota Vikings, a trade we just made. And what position intrigues you most here? Maybe take a flyer on another weapon like a wideout? Yeah, I was thinking either wideout or edge. I probably am going to lean wideout here depending on what's available. Yeah, let's go ahead and check it out here.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Wideout, we have Shai Smith out of South Carolina, Austin Watkins out of UAB, and Jonathan Adams Jr. out of Arkansas State that lead the list here, a wide receiver. Going to edge rusher here, Chauncey Golston out of Iowa, Janarius Robinson out of Florida State, Patrick Jones out of Pitt. Looks like Malcolm Koontz did go in the meantime here while we were discussing this, but we still do have a guy like Adedokumbo Ogadenji out of Notre Dame, a long guy who can play inside and outside.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Josh Amirbibi out of Illinois is there as well. So we have a couple guys here. It's a really interesting debate we could have. Janarius Robinson, too, like I mentioned, very long, athletic guy from Florida State. He could be kind of a project address if you want to. So there's a couple names here that really are intriguing. Yeah, what's available at linebacker? Yeah, let's check out linebacker.
Starting point is 00:47:30 That's one position where I think the Colts could address just to replace definitely Anthony Walker. I know they have six on the roster already, but we know Chris Bauer can take seven. I mean, if they draft a guy here and he outperforms like a Matthew Andrews or Zyra Franklin, they could be cut at training camp. Like there could be a training camp battle. But looking at linebacker here, Isaiah McDuffie out of Boston College, Buddy Johnson out of Texas A&M,
Starting point is 00:47:53 and Riley Cole out of South Alabama are top of the list. Our guy Barnes out of Purdue has already been taken. Tony Fields has been taken as well? Yeah, he's gone. Oh, man. Tony Fields is a guy that I could see the Colts taking. I don't know if anybody was able to listen to the Pat McAfee Show the other day but he had Tony Fields On and he just sounds like a
Starting point is 00:48:10 Colts kind of linebacker and even Pat on the show said Made a comment about it So wow I'm not super in love With the options that we have here One thing I'm not super in love with the options that we have here. One thing I want to say.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Here's one guy I'll throw out here that we have not talked about on the show yet. Jonathan Adams out of, out of Arkansas state is a small school guy. We just took another small school guy, Christian Uphall, but Jonathan Adams again has mock draftable profile, 6'2", 210, has an 80-inch wingspan, which is in the 85th percentile for wideouts. He was a 4'5", 940 guy, so not the fastest guy, but he is a jump ball kind of guy, 39-inch vertical jump, 132-inch broad jump, 95th percentile.
Starting point is 00:49:01 He's a guy that's an athlete here. And ironically enough enough looking at his uh profile here on mock draftable his his number three uh or number two most comparable athletic profile for wideouts is Zach Paschal that's that's pretty funny um yeah you know what let's let's go for him we haven't yet to to take him in any of our drafts. We're taking risks this draft. And so let's go ahead and keep with that and see what we get. Yeah, let's go ahead and lock in Jonathan Adams out of Arkansas State.
Starting point is 00:49:39 He's a small school guy, jump ball guy. I'll probably put something out on him later this week since we did pick him here in the mock draft. But a guy on late day three to take a flyer on and maybe have a competition with Desmond Patman for that roster spot. So we're going to take Jonathan Adams Jr., wide receiver out of Arkansas State here in this simulation. Back on the board here in a couple spots. At 206, we have two picks left here.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Took a project wide out on Jonathan Adams just now. Maybe go back to edge rusher here. Maybe we go to defensive line or maybe interior offensive line. What do you think here? Those three positions, that's exactly where I was going to send us is either edge, interior offensive line or defensive line. Yeah, let's go ahead and check that out here.
Starting point is 00:50:19 And yeah, it looks like honestly, pretty cleaned out here at a lot of spots. Yeah, looks looks like, honestly, pretty cleaned out here at a lot of spots. Yeah, looks like here, I mean, maybe a guy that we could take here as an edge rusher, another Notre Dame guy, but really checks the boxes for them. He was a team captain, a blue star guy at Notre Dame. Adeda Kumbu Ogundenji, the edge at Notre Dame, could slide inside and out. A very long athletic guy too like obviously Chris Bauer loves his long athletes but wingspan 84 inches which is a 92nd percentile the second
Starting point is 00:50:50 longest for any edge rusher in this class arm length is 35 and a quarter which is the second longest in his class behind Peyton Turner so he's a guy he ran a 4.840 not the fastest guy but if you kick him inside on pass downs he could be a guy that could really do some damage looking at as an interior defensive lineman, really maxed out here on mock draft as an interior defensive lineman, 90th percentile across the board as a guy, if you kick him inside, who could be maybe a backup to Buckner and a river Stewart.
Starting point is 00:51:18 You know, honestly, like once you started going over those numbers and then you, you've mentioned the, the 40 and then all the other stuff and I'm going you know what with that length that might be a guy who could slide in and would make a lot of sense there so I wouldn't be against that like having him go and be a kind of coach him up to be a defensive tackle um if you go to relative athletic score and you flip him over to defensive tackle um he goes from a defensive end he's he's good you put him at defensive tackle it's elite sport right there and so i kind of would that's a pretty good idea like not not to sound
Starting point is 00:52:10 surprised at all because you have great ideas a lot but it's just something i haven't really thought about and you know it's it's kind of a really yeah it's a really good idea to take a guy as a project to try to drop him inside so you get that rotational piece in there. And if you want to sub out Grover Stewart and toss him Agudanje, you know, as the guy next to DeForest Buckner, you've got two just incredibly long, explosive guys there at the defensive tackle position coming at you. And then you're able to really let the defensive ends go. Yeah, it's a really interesting idea.
Starting point is 00:52:45 And one, he was a senior bowl guy too, so he checks that box. Team captain, like I mentioned. So he's a blue star prospect. Yeah, if he's on the board here like in the fifth, sixth round, I would not be surprised if the Colts take a flyer on him to kick inside because he's like an Autry type where you can put him inside and he could really wreak some havoc there. Have a train camp battle with Robert Winter for one of those final roster spots
Starting point is 00:53:04 in defense tackle, but I think he's a guy with a lot of high upside, very lanky too, one of the longest guys in this class, and he'd easily be the longest arm for any defensive tackle in this class if he were to kick inside. So let's lock in Adedokumbu Ogundenji out of Notre Dame here to be kind of a project at the defensive line on defensive tackle at 206. We're back on the board here, Stephen, at 248 with our final pick in this year's draft at LiveMock Draft 6.0. We kind of covered all the bases here.
Starting point is 00:53:30 We got wide out. We got a project wide out. We got a project tight end – or not a project tight end. I mean, Ty Tremble, I think, is a guy who can step in day one and do a lot of things there. We got corner. We got safety. We have edge rusher, interior defensive line.
Starting point is 00:53:43 So with our last pick here, we still do have a couple guys on the board here. I mean, should we just lock in our usual 248 guy with Tommy Kramer? That would be pretty simple at this point. You know, he's a guy that obviously we really like. Makes a lot of sense for the Colts. It's, you know, in Notre Dame tends to turn out some pretty consistent, pretty steady offensive linemen. And he would be, he's a four-year starter at tackling guard there in Notre Dame.
Starting point is 00:54:17 That's not easy to do. So I wouldn't be surprised if that's the pick. Yeah, let me go ahead and just check out a couple guys here on defensive line before we lock in Kramer. There is one guy who does intrigue me a little bit. It's William Bradley King out of Baylor. If he's drafting on a defensive line, edge rusher, 6'3", 250, another long guy, 80-inch wingspan, kind of a slower 40 time.
Starting point is 00:54:39 But he is an athlete. He looks like a guy you could take a flyer on here in this. And if you were to kick him inside, for example, a game on mock draftable, man, this is like a Marvell Tell one. If you were to kick him inside here, he maxes out everything on 99th percentile for interior defensive line. The only thing he misses is the weight. So he's at 252.
Starting point is 00:54:59 So he's maybe a guy who could be a Danico Autry too. If you want to have a jumbo package up front with a William Bradley King, Ogun Denji, Taekwon Lewis, Buckner like that's on rundown so you throw in Gerber Stewart to that mix as well like play a five-man front on defense like it's hard to run against those lengthy guys up there. Yeah and that's something that Chris Ballard's always talked about is if you've got longer guys it makes the window so much smaller for quarterbacks and it makes their their job a lot more difficult. If we hadn't have taken Edgar Denje like at 206, I probably would say this makes a lot of sense to go with Bradley here.
Starting point is 00:55:41 I totally butchered that name. This has been like the run, William Bradley King. I would say go with him here. But given we just took Ogadenje and we haven't really, you know, upgraded the offensive line depth, I would tend to, yeah, you know what? We've risked it all this draft. Let's just go with Bradley King. We'll just throw it all thanks to the wind and just see what hits.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Okay. Maybe we can sign Kramer as an undrafted creation. Yeah, and more often than not, he usually doesn't go in these. I mean, so maybe you could get him as a UDFA and add another Irish guy on board here. So we could have two or three guys from Notre Dame in the same one. But then that's it. We're going to lock in William Bradley King out of Baylor to be an edge
Starting point is 00:56:27 defensive lineman. Now the Colts are really stacked on defensive line and offensive line for depth there. But let's go over the draft real quick before we end today's show, Stephen. Jalen Phillips at 25, moving back and getting 25 and 33. Kelvin Joseph, the corner out of Kentucky. We move back from 33 to 52. We gain the Bears' 2022 second-round pick pick which could be a top 40 pick in next year's draft take Kelvin Joseph at 52 out of Kentucky Walker Little out of Stanford our future day one left tackle is there as well who could be I mean we could probably sign a guy like Alejandro Vela in a way of the one-year deal if we don't feel like Little is ready yet he's
Starting point is 00:57:00 still a free agent out there but Tommy Tremble out of Notre Dame at 127. Christian Uphoff out of Illinois State at 168. After we traded back with the Vikings to get 199 as well. At 199, take Jonathan Adams Jr., the project wideout, a jump ball threat out of Arkansas State. Adeda Kumbu, Ogun Denji, blue star guy out of Notre Dame as an edge rush interior guy. And then Tommy Kramer, or excuse me, William Bradley King, the edge interior defensive
Starting point is 00:57:25 line out of baylor on that list and we could probably just throw tommy kramer in there as a udfa if we wanted to steven the that pff grade on that is i think the best we've ever done so far that's an a minus grade from pff on that so really strong class there i'm honestly shocked they gave us an a minus pff tends to not like what we do. And so, yeah, I feel really confident about this. I bet we got really, really high marks for Phillips and Little. That probably carried a lot of our grade, probably A or an A- on both of those. And they probably really enjoyed us dropping back 19 spots to get Kelvin Joseph and then also picking up the Chicago second-round pick
Starting point is 00:58:03 in 2022. Yeah, as a whole, I think those first five picks are really rock solid in terms of guys that could come in and be immediate contributors. And Jalen Phillips, Kelvin Joseph, Walker Little, Tommy Trimble, and Christian Uphoff. And then you've got a couple guys that are developmental guys with Jonathan Adams that, you know, out of Arkansas State of Arkansas state and then you've got Ogadenja and Bradley King, there is some more depth along the defensive line. Like we've talked about at nausea at this point, Chris Ballard has said every single press conference, you're going to win in the trenches.
Starting point is 00:58:38 And this just kind of shows again that he's really cognizant of that, that he's going to try to increase the depth along the again that he's really cognizant of that that he's gonna try to increase the the depth along the trenches and he's gonna upgrade that offensive line to try to keep um Carson Wentz upright so as a whole I really like the draft um you know it's not like last time where I felt I was like man there's a couple I just feel like I'm missing something in this draft this one I feel a little bit better even though we took a bunch of risks. Yeah, I totally agree with you there. Just going over like Phillips and Joseph and then also Little.
Starting point is 00:59:15 I mean, I think honestly that's a really good haul for the Colts and one that PFF really loves. I actually love the Adams and Ogadenji picks as well. A-minuses for both those picks. So that helped out a little bit on the grade. But, Stephen, any final thoughts here before really close today's show talking about this draft no I mean we've we've got one more one more mock draft left to go and you know this draft that we did today I've had if the the medicals check out for Phillips and Walker Little like that's those things those two are home run picks right there they've got such just
Starting point is 00:59:45 raw talent and ability that if their medicals check out it's it's an absolute home run to get them where we got them and if they don't check out then it's an absolute bust in terms of the draft because you'll have spent you know a first and a second round around guys that that really don't fit um or that can't play and so it's risk, but I think the reward in this case is worth it because I feel like both of those guys, if the Colts are drafting them, those medicals check out, and I don't think there's that concern. Steven, this is always fun, man. We're going to have you back on again next week for our final live mock draft.
Starting point is 01:00:21 I imagine I'll probably have you on again if they do pick Thursday, Friday, just to go over what's going to be happening here. But we're around a week away from the NFL draft. Always enjoy doing these live mock draft. I imagine I'll probably have you on again if they do pick Thursday, Friday, just to go over what's going to be happening here, but we're around a week away from the NFL draft. Always enjoy doing these live mock drafts for the listeners. Go ahead and follow Steve. If you're not already on Twitter, Colts fans at nice read, Steven,
Starting point is 01:00:33 listen to his podcast as well over on stampede blue. Appreciate the time tonight. All right. Thanks Evan. Have a good one.

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