Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - COLTS SQUAD SHOW: BEST 2026 Game | A Look Ahead at Colts' 2026 Slate Before Thursday Schedule Reveal

Episode Date: May 13, 2026

With the 2026 schedule reveal just a few days away, what is your most anticipated game/opponent on this year's Colts slate? The guys discuss, plus jump into the latest in the Leonard and Richardson debate at QB, focus on other position battles across the roster, and Zach opines on the two Day 3 EDGE rushers that Indy took a flier on. Find and follow Locked On Colts on your favorite podcast platforms:  🎧 https://lockedonpodcasts.com/podcasts/locked-on-colts/  📺YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLdpxJspi1hMh5HL7ExpWOQ  Give the squad a follow on X/Twitter @Schultz975, @JakeArthurNFL, @ZachHicks2, @allenpinkett, @LockedOnColts, and @ColtsOn_SI, as well on TikTok and Instagram!  Locked On NFL League-Wide: Every Team, Fantasy, Draft & More  🎧 https://lockedonpodcasts.com/podcasts/lockedoncolts  Everydayer Club  If you never miss an episode, it’s time to make it official. Join the Locked On Everydayer Club and get ad-free audio, access to our members-only Discord, and more — all built for our most loyal fans. Click here to learn more and join your team’s community: https://lockedonpodcasts.com/everydayerclub  Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! Square If you’re starting a business, or running one that deserves better tools, Square helps you sell, manage, and grow without slowing down. Right now, you can get up to $200 off Square hardware at https://square.com/go/LockedOnNFL. FanDuel Today's episode is brought to you by FanDuel.Right now new customers can bet just five dollars and get one-hundred and fifty dollars in bonus bets if your first bet wins. Visit https://FANDUEL.COMto get started — Play Your Game. Indeed Listeners of this show get a $75 Sponsored Job Credit to help give your job the premium placement it deserves at http://Indeed.com/podcast. Rocket MoneyLet Rocket Money help you reach your financial goals faster. Join athttp://RocketMoney.com/LOCKEDON Gametime Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONfor $20 off your first purchase. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) #colts #coltsnews #indianapoliscolts #coltsnation #fortheshoe Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome to the Colts Squad Show. I'm your host, Derek Shultz, and oops, I just leaked my kids' little league schedule. And I'm Zach Hicks, back in the full this week after missing last week due to illness. I'm Alan Pinkett, former Oiler, and as Jay Z says, don't call it a comeback. Colts Nation, rise up. It's the Colts Squad, everything Indianapolis Colts every week. Covering all the big hits and game-changing plays from the Circle City, the way only the lock. on podcast network can. It's time to squad up. The Colt Squad Joe starts now.

Welcome to the Colts Squad Show. Thanks so much for joining us. I'm Derek Schultz, long-time indie sports talker and columnist for the Indianapolis Business Journal. I'm joined, as always, by a Notre Dame legend and longtime NFL running back out Pinkett, along with one half of the locked-on Colts duo. We're going to get these guys back to full strength here pretty soon. Everyone's favorite film buff.

He's back from an illness last week at Zach Hicks. Jake Arthur will return soon, of course, for a future show. We're previewing a Thursday's schedule release, which is right around the corner, about 48 hours away, a little less than that from where we sit right now. Among other things on tonight's show, obviously we'll get to the team itself as well. But I thought it'd be fun to just kind of preview the preview, right? Pre-talk about what's going to happen on Thursday. We already know the opponents is just about figuring out where and when,

well, not even where, but when these games are going. going to be and on what day and prime time and things like that. So most anticipated 2026 Colts game and opponent. We'll talk about that to lead off today's show. Richardson and Leonard both getting reps and the latest in, you know, as the world turns, I know, Alan, you're old enough at least to remember that, right? I don't know if Zach's like, what are you? What's a soap opera?

What are you talking about? That's how it feels right now, right? With the backup quarterback spot and social media and everybody, even national folks chiming in. I'm like, really, are we interested? I guess it's May, right? So we're interested in the Colts potential backup quarterback battle, but that's where we are with that. So we'll get to the latest there.

Speaking of position battles, we'll talk more about position battles in segment number three. Jake, who, you know, is not here tonight, but had a great write-up for Colts Roundtable about some of the potential position battles, which we've sort of briefly touched on here and there during the off-season. Let's talk about that at segment number three. And then I was interested, as I always am, with Zach on social media. That's why I follow at Zach Hicks, too. but seems to really like George Gumbs Jr.

So we'll pick Zach's brain a little bit about one of the Colts edge guys that they took very late in the draft. And he had some thoughts on Caden Curry as well. We may flip that in as well just because he's a greenwood kid, a local product from center growth. But guys, let's talk about the Colts opponent's slate. We know that, you know, whenever you play the NFC East, the schedule leaks always help because we know the Cowboys are going to have,

you know, what, 14 primetime games? games around there, 14 and a half, you know, it's usually the over, under for that. The Eagles, the Giants, God, those teams are just constantly on prime time. So you can kind of start to figure out what the Colts opponents are going to be. But we know, obviously, you know, the home schedule besides the three division games will be Baltimore, Cincinnati, Miami, Dallas, and then the New York Giants, while the away games will be Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Minnesota, Philadelphia, and Washington.

Anything jump out to you, Zach, is. far as most anticipated either opponent or even location. Sometimes, you know, some of these road trips, especially with the NFC teams, are very rare. And you get a chance to see the Colts on the road in a venue that you're not used to. But what jumps out to you before we kind of get to that schedule reveal coming up here in about 48 hours? Yeah, I think outside of just the divisional games, which we always know we're going to get those six games every single year. Those are always the six that I circle every year. So regardless of where they are, what games, where they come in the schedule and all that, like those are.

like those are always the most important games for me, but narrative-wise, there are two really intriguing games for the Colts this year, right? We got Luana Rumo versus his old team in the Cincinnati Bengals coming at some point this season. And also Daniel Jones against the New York Giants at some point this season as well. So if you're just speaking purely to the narrative of those two games, I think those will be really fun and just seeing that those guys with like kind of that story about them, especially Daniel Jones against New York Giants.

Like if he gets off to another good start this year, I'm not saying it has to be as great as it was last year. But if he gets off to another good start and the Giants are like this young upcoming team with Jackson Dart or even if they are struggling, like either one. I do think that just that whole narrative of that face off would be really fun to look at. But selfishly, I'm also looking at that Washington Commander's game because it's a pretty close by game. It's going to be up there in D.C. and I'm hoping to potentially get credentialed for that game and get up there and watch that game live with Jake in the box. So yeah, a lot of really fun ones.

I always love when they come out to my neck of the woods on the East Coast and play some games out here. But certainly, like, narrative-wise, I'm looking at that Giants and that Bengals game because I'm sure that's what Luanna Rumo and Daniel Jones have circled on the calendar as well. Well, I can tell you when I was a player, We would always, and just to let you know how old I am, the conference I played in was the

AFC Central, which no longer exists. But it was always a thrill to be able to play a different conference, and you almost could, I guess, tell your longevity in the league because, you know, you wanted to get a chance to play each division and hopefully get to play. them twice. And so I was able to play each division twice and was always, always excited when we got to play the NFC East. Because I grew up as a Washington fan. I'll stay politically correct. But, you know, I thought this was the case and I had to look it up. Can you tell me which division is one of the most Super Bowls, the NFC East.

I was to say it has to be the NNC East, right? Because Washington's at three, Giants are at four. Cowboys are at two. Cowboys are at five. So, yeah, I mean, makes sense when you think about it. They're the only division where every single team has won a Super Bowl. Multiple Super Bowls, too, for every single team. Yes. Now, you know, when we speak of current times,

the Giants probably aren't winning a Super Bowl anytime soon. But there was always this, I guess, respect for the NFC East because of the players they had on the team, because of the athletes that they had. Because they played a brand of ball that was just a little higher than everybody else. So I was always excited when we got a chance. And I especially loved the fact that finally in my, I guess, my sixth year, it may have been my fifth year. that got to go home to play in RFK, which was always a dream, which ironically,

my dad took me to a game one time. We got to miss church, and ironically, it was against the Houston Oilers. And then so many years later, I guess when the Oilers make a return to RFK, I'm playing for him. So I watched Earl Campbell play, And then I get to run on the field.

So it's always so. But I've mentioned the NFC East because, of course, I'm going to be all caught up in that Colts Cowboys game. Because Cowboys is such a show. And, you know, they don't necessarily have a great team all the time. But they're going to have a handful of stars. And this league is driven on stars. So I'm looking forward to see how DAC will navigate through this hopefully new and improved secondary that the Colts have. It promises to be an exciting game.

And, of course, I do find myself cheering for Washington every now and then. So to see that game, especially since it's going to be over there in, what is that? Anacostia? No, I'm just, I'm kidding. No, I know they play in Maryland. But the fact that they're playing the NFC East, I think just adds a little more juice to that schedule. And even though those teams may not be the powerhouses that they were, they're still going to have great players on those teams. And it's just going to make those games that much more exciting. Yeah, we'll see. Oh, sorry, I was going to say, we'll see if we actually get more primetime games this year. I know a lot of Colts fans love when you get primetime games.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the prime time games because we're working, right? I love to get in there at 1 o'clock, be done by 430, done recording by 6. And I can have a night with the wife, right, instead of being up until 2 a.m. watching the game. But I understand why you want to see time, see everybody watching their team. And like Alan said, when you're playing against the NFC East, heck, when you're playing against the NFC East, Heck, when you're playing against the AFC North as well, right? Like those are the prime to Pittsburgh, Baltimore, go over to NFC East, you got Dallas, you have Philly, you have New York Giants, like those are your primetime teams.

So even if Vegas and the NFL doesn't see the Colts as like this high market team and they never give the Colth primetime games, they might get a couple more this year just because of the fact of who they're playing. Yeah, the NFC East really dominates that area. And, you know, Alan, you'd mentioned kind of from the player's standpoint, or the team standpoint, I look forward to the NFCE standpoint because of the fan atmosphere standpoint of it. There's just something fun about,

even if half of them are from Avon, it's fun about having the Cowboys fans in the building, right? That shutout in 2018 was great because everybody's pointed to the exits. It's like, you know, you're doing your Hoosier hospitality and helping out these Cowboys fans and letting them know, hey, that's where your car is. Yeah, they didn't score any points. And there's just something that's really kind of electric and fun about that.

But I think even though those teams, you know, obviously outside of Philly, you know, Dallas has kind of fallen on hard times here. The Giants have been bad for a while now. Washington just recently sort of came back into relevance, but even then they kind of shrunk back a little bit. You're talking legacy fan bases. And it's just, you know, going to play the Giants, going to play Washington, going to play Dallas is just, you know, no offense. I'm not trying to be mean to the teams of the NFC. South, it's not like going to Nashville. It's not like going to

Houston. It's not like going to Jackson. It's just not. It's not the same sort of thing where literally grandfathers are with their grandsons watching those games, you know, wearing the jerseys of the team. So I think that that element is fun. The home schedule

really outside of the Dallas game doesn't do a heck of a lot for me. Miami was just here. Cincinnati seemingly as always here. Ditto for Baltimore. And then, you know, Zach, I'm a little bummed about the road schedule just because they were just at Arrowhead. Minnesota is really cool. It's a great stadium, but that's been a house of horrors for the Colts. And they've played there now twice in the last, what do we talk about, four years?

Because they had obviously the epic collapse in 22 and then the Joe Flacco second start game before they realized, hey, this isn't going to work out here. So I'm glad that the NFC East is on here because I don't see a lot of other, you know, they were just in Pittsburgh. Cleveland doesn't do anything for me. There's nothing. else it really jumps out to me about opponent and venue next year. Yeah, I mean, I just like not having to play Josh Allen this year would be, is really fun. But they do have a tough gauntlet of quarterbacks that they face this season.

Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow, obviously a big part of that. Now, with the NFC East, it does make it a little bit easier that, you know, your best quarterback in there is probably DAC at this point. Jaden Daniels, depending on health, you know, if he takes another step this year. So it's not the craziest quarterback schedule they're facing this season. season. But there are a couple big names in there that give you some worry. But yeah, like you said, Derek, it's not like there's not much variety this season outside of NFC East, which it feels like every time the Colts play at NFC East, there's always like, there's some kind of big thing. It's either like

a big blowout or it's like a crazy thing happens in the game. Like you mentioned the shutout with Dallas back in 2018. We had the Taylor Heineke comeback against them in what, 2022, I believe is what it was? It was Taylor Heineke versus Sam Ellinger in that game of that one. We have the, when, was it, was it Daniel Jones? I mean, pretty much anytime they play the Giants was just disasters in recent years, recent memories. Yeah. The Nick Foll's, uh, Tibito, um, um, Snow Angel where nobody kind of came. Right.

It was just laying there and the culture just checked out. Right, right. And then, uh, and there's even, uh, what, the Philly one where Siriani saying that's for Frank Reich or whatever after they beat. Yeah, that was weird. That was just weird. He's a weird guy. We always get really funny, like, things like that with Nisi.

I think that's just the nature of the NFC East as well. So that's just, you know, it's always fun when you get to play against them. And I hope the Colts can sweep the NFC East. That'd be the dream, obviously. Oh, my God. It'll be some really fun games for sure. Just remember there's no bad teams in the NFL. There's only teams with bad records.

Yeah. I want to say 2018, though, when the Colts went to the playoffs that year with that 10-win season, I think they swept the NFC East that season. I could be wrong there, but they had the comeback win against the Giants late in the season. Shut out the Cowboys. No, I think they lost to Philly that season. But they'd be a Monday night football. They played Philly, right?

Yeah. Is that right? Was that that that season? Yeah, that was during their losing streak early in the year. But they generally, again, the generally the games are fun with the NFC East. I know we've been talking so much about the NFC East here, but that is the most exciting part of, I guess, the season, the new part of the schedule, I guess. The biggest part is obviously divisional games, but the NNC East is probably the more fun part of like the newness on the schedule this year.

And I do think there's something to it. The reason why the reveal is important to me is that see what games are clustered together, right? Because like we saw last year and maybe we didn't know it at the time, that schedule was certainly backloaded. Oh, that gone loaded at the end of the season. Yeah, it was just really brutal. And, you know, kind of seeing, okay, where's the prime time games? Where do they fall in and all of that?

So I think, and we can talk about that on Thursday show. That'll be our squad show will be essentially a schedule or reveal show coming up here in two days. But I thought it would be fun to just kind of take an early look at some of those opponents and refresh everybody's memory because I hadn't really thought about the 2020 schedule until this week. We come back on the show. We'll talk about, as I mentioned, as the quarterback turns, right? The latest in the Riley Leonard to Anthony Richardson situation, even national talking heads getting in on that. We'll tell you what they had to say, what Zach had to say back in front. forth on social media and we'll continue to talk about it when the cold squad show returns next.

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Mum's still sort of the word with Shane Steichen as well. You know, Anthony Richardson is going to get reps, how many reps, how many reps compared to Leonard. The Colts aren't revealing that at this moment. But, you know, as much as this is a bit of an awkward situation, I think one positive is that, you know, there's going to be a lot of attention on this. And you don't really want a lot of attention on your backup quarterback battle, I don't think. It did feel a little more like business as usual this week.

I don't know, at least compared to last week. I felt like Jim Bob Cooter faced the firing squad a lot more than Shane Stike and ended up doing. But this is just a storyline that's just, I know some folks in the comments are like, God, this again, this is just not going to go away. And so we have some sort of a resolution on the Richardson situation, the conversation is just going to continue. Yeah, no, for sure. And one thing I do want to just clarify real quick for anyone listening. There's been a lot of AI summaries and short reports written up on Shane Steichen saying that this is a battle for the QB2, that they're going to split reps at QB2. We're all Shane Steikin said is Richardson is going to get reps just like Leonard is going to get reps. And then when he was asked to clarify on the nature of that battle for QB2, he said,

it's May. Like, we'll see what it looks like. So he did not want to commit whatsoever to Richardson even splitting, like splitting those reps at QB2 or I guess the QB1 throughout the off season. So just a little bit of a clarification. They're a little bit of semantics, but there's nothing guarantee that this is actually a battle between these two for the backup quarterback job. I know Derek, you and I are of the opinion that.

it's not really going to be a battle. It's going to be Riley Leonard's job unless he just can't hit a target whatsoever in the entire offseason. Or Shane Steichen resigns, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I don't think this is going to be a battle for the second quarterback job. But, I mean, like you mentioned, Derek, I mean, every second that Richardson is in the building and every second that Shane Steichen has to go to a podium while Richardson is at the building,

there's going to have your beat reporters like James Boyd and Joel Erickson, who it's their job to do this, right? It's part of what they need to be doing is asking, like, what's the status here? Are these guys splitting? Because the quarterback position is the most important position on the team. Backup quarterback, especially when your starter is dealing with an Achilles recovery, is the second most important position on the team as of right now. So you're going to get these questions until we get some solidified answers. But this is kind of the nature of, like, what you're bringing to yourself by still having Richardson around, right?

You're going to get these questions. You're going to get these debates. you're going to get first take weighing in on your backup quarterback spot and stuff like that, right? It's just the nature of what you have invited into your locker room. So again, competition is good. We'll see ultimately if, you know, if Richardson has the camp of his life and he's really pushing Riley Leonard for that backup spot. We'll see. But I don't think it's really going to be much for competition.

Much like, I mean, look, by and large, I think in Shane Steichen's mind last year, it wasn't really a competition for QB1. I don't think this is really a competition for QB2. but we'll see ultimately how many snaps Richardson actually gets with the starters. But I would expect Leonard to get the vast majority of them. Well, like I said in the opening segment, don't call it a comeback. Anthony Richardson back in the fold. I think some of the Colts Brass are remembering, wait a minute, wasn't he the fourth picking the draft?

And maybe he will be reawakened because now he has. as competition. And even though it might be to be the backup, there's competition there. And maybe just maybe the light bulb goes off in his head. And he can remember where the pressure is coming from on scat protection, Zach. But it kind of feels like they're trying to prop them up so they can increase the trade value that they can potentially get back. Yeah, if they can send reports out of camp saying that, oh, he looks really sharp, you know, oh, he's making all the good reads.

If you can have some good news coming out of camp about how good he looks, that might be the difference between a fourth round and a six round. If they can get a six-round pick at this point, Helen, if they can get a six-round pick, we'll take it. So I look forward to the competition that does keep it interesting. And even though, even though I'm sure a lot of people that listen are saying that they are tired of hearing this talk about Anthony Richardson, no, you're not. No, you're not. It's one of the most intriguing things about this particular team. But I guess if Shane Steichen had a vote, he would probably trade them yesterday. But he's going to get every opportunity to show that he is potentially back and in the fold to be a starter. Yeah, and that's just the big thing with this is like every time Chris Ballard talks about Anthony Richardson, and again, maybe this is just playing the media up to try to get the value that you want to move him. Maybe they are both done with him.

Maybe it's a foregone conclusion that there will be some move at some point. But every time Chris Ballard talks about Anthony Richardson, it's about how good of a kid he is, how hard of a worker he is, how he still has a bright future in this league and how he could have a future here in Indy and all that. And like, oh, we're not convinced fully on trading him and stuff. Like, we'll reassess later, but like, let's get him in here. Where every time Shane Steichen talks about him, it's like, yeah, he's here. He's in the building. He exists. Yeah, he's here.

Like, I know that's just Shane Steichen's a very blunt way, blunt speaker with media. like he just doesn't give anything to media on the record. And I know that's just part of his, his, uh, MO. But again, like, if they're trying to play the whole media thing to pump him up, Shane Snyck is not getting the memo with that because he's not very enthused with that there. So I don't know. We'll see ultimately what comes of having him on the roster still. But I just don't, I don't know if there's much of a future here with this unless

Leonard and Jones are unable to play this season, which. I mean, I guess could happen with their injury histories, but like even then, how long would Richardson stay on the field? So it's tough to really even say any of this stuff. But it is the intriguing storyline. I get why people are talking about it. It's just I don't really know if it really amounts to much when training camp rolls around. Yeah. And, you know, Chris Bowerd, and I'm not saying he's doing anything nefarious here because I think he genuinely cares about his players.

I think that comes from an authentic place. But let's face it, he benefits from the. other guys like Steichen being negative about Richardson because there is this thought out there that, oh, well, Jim Ursaid demanded that he'd take a quarterback. No. Chris's, Chris's hands were tied. So there was nothing that he could do about that. So it's not really, it's not Chris's fault that they took Richardson because this was

Ursa's guy or this was, this was Stuyken's guy. He's the quarterback whisper, right? Wasn't Bauer. I mean, come on. Like, Bauer wouldn't have done something. So I honestly think, you know, obviously I'm. amming it up a little bit here. But I do think that he benefits from that,

at least from a perception standpoint, because look, there just aren't a lot of general managers that would get a free pass for blowing a top four pick like this. And essentially, he has gotten a free pass for it. And, you know, we can talk about it,

and we've done that on this show, whether that's right or wrong or, you know, the whole deal with Bauerda, I'm not going to, I don't want to go back down that rabbit hole again. But I do think that it's interesting in how both parties kind of talk about him because how the,

the perception is of that. But there are lots of, I think, just wrong perceptions about this. Like, does Richardson have more athleticism and skill than Riley Leonard? Yeah, of course, he better, right? He was a former top four pick. But does any of that really matter when he has shown that the floor is so low, you can't even see it. It's like down into the abyss.

It's like Star Wars, that pit that, you know, Darth Vader falls into. You know what I mean? Like, it just keeps going. And so Leonard's floor is considerably higher. and it doesn't matter where their ceilings are because the Colts need a high floor player to perform the offense in a way that Shane Stuy can once. Jack, I thought you made a great example.

Trey Lance and Brock Purdy, right? That's like the exact same thing that the Niners went through where they're like, look, we can't bet on this guy. We have to take kind of the sure thing right now because we just can't risk it. Yeah. How about this perspective right here? Anthony Richardson being in camp

is going to be so much better for Riley Leonard. it can potentially bring out the best in Riley Leonard because he's going to have some true competition. And yes, the guy is more athletic in every single way. But I think in some instances it's going to make Riley Leonard that much more sharp, that much more able to make the read, the right read right away, get the ball out quick, be sharp on all his passes. You know, I just think about myself, you know, because I remember going into my third year.

They drafted running back in the first round. And at first you're thinking, oh, Lord, I'm done playing here. But it was the best thing that ever happened to me because it made me raise my level of play. And I'm thinking, you know, just a little bit, it might raise Riley Leonard's level of play so that he becomes the unquestionable number two, QB2 on this team. Yeah, I mean, that certainly could be the case. And I don't want to downplay that too much, but to kind of respond to what you were saying there, Derek,

about just why the Colts, like, I feel like there's this perception with the Colts with Anthony Richardson, where it's like, it's all this, like, everything's against him. Like, he did nothing wrong and he's benched. And I just think that's too much the one way. Because, like, let's look at this way, right? after the first two seasons, Richardson's development had gone backwards, right? The first season was positive.

Second season was a big step back, right? More turnover than touchdowns, just the 47% completion percentage, only scoring 19 points per game in the games that he was out there. And this is with Shane Steichen, who had just nearly had Gardner-Minch who lead them to the playoffs the year before, right? So, like, it was a big step back. Multiple injuries. He was benched once as well for performance.

So going from year two to year three, would I have personally given him another chance? Sure. Yeah, you spend a top five pick on him. Would a lot of Colts fans giving him another chance? Sure. Absolutely, right? But it's not crazy to think that Shane Stuyken wouldn't give him another chance after that. After two years in the NFL, he had missed more games than he had started.

He had been benched. He had had multiple injuries. He was coming off a season where he completed 47% of his passes and led the team to 19 points per game. River's coming off his couch for three games last year was scoring more than 19 points a game, you know, against the Seahawks defense, against the 49ers in prime time. He put up nearly 30. I think he put up like 30 in that game. So yeah, it's like it's crazy thing that he moved on from Richardson.

And it's kind of like that Purdy and Lance thing where it's like, look, we took a shot. We thought we could mold this guy into being everything we needed and more. But ultimately there comes a time where you have to try to play for your job, right? you can't just sit and wait for a guy forever. There's no minor league in football. These guys have to perform quickly, even if they are projects, and you give some grace with a top five pick. They gave them two years of grace,

and they decided to move on. Do I completely agree with the decision when it was made? Probably not. But I understand moving on to a more proven thing, especially when you have a coach like Stuyken, who nearly got to the playoffs with Gardner-Minchu at starting quarterback, had a great first half of the year last year with Daniel Jones, this bust who was a 10th,

It was a terrible quarterback. They were playing some good football last year with him. Philip Rivers coming off his couch, scoring over 20 points per game. Like, I understand the move, even if it's not the perfect one. Like, you can't wait forever in the NFL. It's the not for long league for a reason. So it's tough, man. It's tough.

It is what it is. We'll see if Richardson gets a shot somewhere else, but it's not crazy to think that they moved on. There's no big conspiracy. It's not, oh, Jim Ursa, forced this on him, and the Colts organization hates him. he was a raw player who got a little bit of leeway injuries derailed a lot of the lot of the projection and a lot of the development he made mistakes colts made mistakes and it

didn't work out and the colts moved on that's the end of the story it's nothing some big crazy conspiracy it's just the nature of the league guys don't get many chances in the NFL so then you move on tray lands got like three games with the with the 49ers and he hasn't been able to start anywhere else it's just the nature of the sport so yeah it's just what it is it's not some big conspiracy. They just had to move on. Yeah. And I think what you said there too is that it's always been painted as a, do you blame the Colts or do you blame Richardson when the answer is, well, the reason this didn't work out, they both didn't exactly cloak themselves in glory here, right?

I think the Colts mishandled some things. I think Richardson mishandled some things. And the combination of that turns into, you know, what we have here, where a quarterback's whose careers is on life support, at least here in Indianapolis. I guess the machine's still beeping, but you're just kind of waiting for the plug to be pulled. When we come back, believe it or not, there are other position battles to discuss. Wow, besides backup quarterback, we'll tell you what those are when the Colts Squad Show returns next. This portion of the Colt Squad Show brought you by Indeed, workplace chaos, deadline stacking up, in blocks overflowing,

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sponsored jobs. And we're back on the Locked on Cold Squad show. Alan Pinkett, Zach Hicks, Derek Stoltz. Thanks so much for joining. be fully squatted up for Thursday's show and we have our big NFL schedule reveal. Talking about position battles, obviously you've spent a ton of time on quarterback so far, but there are some other ones that are very intriguing and very interesting. I think we can kind of go to some. There's some backup one, Zach, that I'm really interested in. But as of right now, I think really that will linebacker and the second edge,

because those are kind of the two, you know, sort of open starting, spots that are still TBD, if you will. Yeah, I think the will linebacker one's really intriguing because you have this veteran player in Akeem Davis Gather, who he's a veteran in terms of age and he's been around the league for a while, but he's only started one full season in his NFL career, right? Which was last year with the Arizona Cardinals. And that was away from Luana Rumo. He was mostly a special teamer with Luana Rumo.

But now he comes here with a chance to start and his only competition being a player in Bryce Betcher. but Betcher isn't really like this project type player, right? You draft him as a 24-year-old guy who had just been the starting linebacker at Oregon for the last like three seasons or, you know, starting snaps the last three seasons at Oregon. So I think that's going to be a good competition in camp. I do think Akeem Davis Gaither is the guy they want starting there to start the season. But as we saw last year in camp at linebacker, Louana Rumo is not afraid to just mix and match.

And if something is not pleasing him one day, he'll throw in other guys there the next day, right? So we might see other guys rotate there as well. But ultimately, yeah, I think Davis Gaither gets it early on. But we'll see if Betcher is able to make some leeway in camp and make some leeway throughout the season and practice as well to potentially take that spot. But then, yeah, that second edge rusher position is the most intriguing one to me, Derek, because it's one we've talked about all offseason, right? What are they going to do? How they're going to upgrade the edge room? they added some depth pieces but right now because they struck out on trey hendrickson because they

didn't take an edge rusher in round two or round three of the draft you're in a spot where you're relying on jalen two at molo to have this massive year to leap uh when he barely played last year and he really didn't like they wanted him to get stronger and bigger uh in the off season so you're putting a lot of faith in a young guy coming into camp looking the way that you want him to look you know looking uh the you know, basically taking the things from the exit interviews and applying them in the offseason and coming into camp being the guy that you drafted into B. So that's a big leap of faith for a team that needs to win this season. So we'll see if that ultimately plays out the way they want to.

But yeah, if Tuma Loa doesn't take that job, then you're looking at like a career rotational guy in Arden Key potentially being a starter when he was a starter on a really bad Titans team last year and he wasn't like a very good starter. he's definitely more of a rotational guy in this league. And then Michael Clemens, who I think there are some traits there, but the awareness is not really fully there with him and the consistency's never been there with him. So hopefully this isn't a situation like last year at linebacker

or a couple years ago with Corner where it's like, oh, there is no solution to this problem on the team because the Colts dug themselves at their own grave at this position. Hopefully somebody emerges, but if you're going to pick any position where, you know, their moves come back to bite them. It could be that second edge rush your position because there is a very realistic scenario where Tumelowah is still not ready.

You know, Arden Key is not a starter. And Michael Clemens is certainly not a starter. And the Colts are scratching their head halfway through the season trying to find some veteran to come in here and start because they struck out with all these other guys. So hopefully that's a competition that breeds, you know, competition breeds like a strength or whatever. Somebody emerges from that group. but we'll see how they look in camp.

This is certainly not a, oh, one of these good players going to emerge. It's like we hope one of these players emerges as a good starter for us next year. So who is going to be this year's Joe Bachi? Yeah. There's always a Joe Bachi every year, Alan. There's always one. It's usually a white linebacker, but there's always one on this roster. I remember years ago there was this dude at safety back in like 2019.

I want to say. He made the first cuts, and we were all so excited because he had a great preseason and offseason. And all Colts fans were pumped about him. And then they claimed two guys, and they cut him for those claims. So the camp, and then he went over to be like a decent, like, depth safety for the Eagles. But yeah, there's always a preseason darling that we fall in love with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'm going to have to agree with you because if JTT can't step up, then it's going to be. you know, by committee that someone plays that position, although we are still holding out for that veteran edge guy to come in here, still got money in the bank if they can find whoever that edge guy is,

a veteran edge guy to come in and, you know, be the specialist. But I am also intrigued in the defensive backfields, you know, like, is this position going to be given to A.J. Halsey, or will there be some legitimate competition with the veterans that are there? I would say that the defensive backfield probably has the most depth, although depth for me in the NFL is not important. You need players. But it's going to be interesting. If we're, we're, we're already projecting C.J. Allen to start because they need somebody desperately at the mic. Will, you know, there's a few question marks. I wouldn't even be surprised if Jermaine Pratt comes back and plays that position. But the defensive backfield does intrigue me, especially if we can get Sauce and Mooney at their best, it's going to change.

the entire complexion of that defense. Yeah, and, you know, another position battle that we haven't really discussed, but it's one that is, you know, critically important. You know, we know that it's going to be a big deal for the Colts to score points this year. And in order to do so, a lot of that rests on the legs of Blake Groupie and Spencer Schrader. So, Zach, what do you think about the hicker battle specifically and your analysis there? Yeah, so whoever- I almost kept a straight face during it.

Whoever makes kicks and doesn't misses, I'm a fan of that when it comes to kickers. But serious talk here. I don't know if it's something Brian Mason was doing. I don't know what it was, but both these guys were outstanding for the Colts last year, right? I mean, Spencer Schrader missed one kick. Blake Groupie, after being one of the most inaccurate kickers in the league in New Orleans,

comes in here down the stretch and doesn't miss a kick, right? their whole operation was perfect here. So unlike the second edge rusher position, this could be a competition where ultimately it's a battle of strength, right, where it's like both these guys could look good. Now it's a kicker thing, so who knows, they can both forget how to kick this offseason. It's just the nature of the position where one day these guys wake up

and they forget how to play the sport. But as of right now, these guys played well last year. So as long as Schrader can recover from that injury and Blake Groupie can continue the hot streak he was on at the end of last season. Hopefully it can be in a situation where it's like, you know, we're not just picking the winner of two guys who kick 70 percent. We're picking the winner of two guys who were perfect throughout the offseason, you know? So, yeah, kicker battle, I think is important because you just want to pick the kicker

that doesn't stink. And hopefully neither of these guys stink this off season. Well, I've got a question. Would it be wise or prudent to keep one kicker on the practice squad? That way you keep the competition going. And, you know, you can, I know your risk when you cut one, they have to go, what, 24 hours to clear waivers. But, you know, kickers aren't necessarily just picked up instantly. It's usually out of need.

But I wonder if that could be a strategy where you got one, you know, is sort of like I hit a one iron. but I keep the three wood in the bag, you know, or I used to carry two putters in my bag because I wanted one of the putters to know they could be replaced. Yeah. So just thinking along, it may not be the best way to spend your money, but it ensures competition. And I don't know if another team has done this before or not two kickers because there's so much more value in heaven. another linebacker on the practice squad or another offensive lineman on practice squad. Could the Colts gamble and put a kicker on there just so those two can go at it week after week? Yeah, the Colts have done this before.

They've had kickers on the practice squad before. And even if teams don't have kickers on the practice squad, they have a lot of kickers on speed dial throughout the year. Because if it's not injuries that happen to your kicker like you did with the Colts, There are times where your kicker just forgets how to play the sport. I know I say this all the time, but it happens quite a bit in this league. I mean, look, Michael Badgley had to be cut and the Colts had to go get Blake Groupie in here to finish out the season. So I think ideally the Colts would love to have one of these guys on the practice squad, whoever loses. I think their thinking is, though, with how these guys both played last year, whoever they cut is not making it to the practice squad.

You know, because, again, if you have two guys that have a good offseason and they're both making their kids, kicks, odds are there's 10 plus teams around the league where their kicker just was shanking everything the entire offseason and has to go back to soccer or something. So I do think that there's going to be a market. If both these guys performed the way they did last year, I don't think either one of them would make it to the practice squad. I think the Colts are probably hoping that they could, you know, push one of these guys for like a seventh round pick to somebody.

And after they've already picked the winner, like we've seen in past off season, especially I think Blake Groupies is only like 25. I think Schrader's only like 24. So yeah, I think, you know, the Colts don't expect one of them to make it to the practice squad if they perform the way they did last year. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how that all plays out and how those position battles play out too. You know, I hadn't really thought about Halsey, but I think they're going to want to try to find ways to get Hunter Woler on the field, right? And so, you know, some of these other things that can, you know, even guys that don't necessarily, quote unquote, win a position battle, just winning more chances. right and winning when in front of the coaching

coaching staff and in those eyes and earning that trust. I think there's something that goes along with that too. We come back on the show. Zachary evaluated the edge rushers or took a deeper dive, I should say on the edge rushers, the day three guys that the Colts took, some things on George Gumbs Jr. As well as Cady and Curry,

and we'll talk about that to wrap up this edition of the Colts Squad Show next. Back for a final time on the Colts Squad show. Thanks so much for joining us. Appreciate you being here. As I mentioned, if you're not already following Zach on Twitter, you really should be, X, whatever it is, Zach Hicks 2. And Zach went through and also, you know, you have your own YouTube channel too, Zach.

But went through and kind of looked at George Gumbs Jr. again and I was just kind of going through the thread. And I was interested in what you had to say there. Also a little bit on Kane Curry, too, who I think I, you're less high on than you are on George Gums Jr. You know, both of these guys, let's just kind of put this into context here. day three edge rushers right so anything that you get from either of them is kind of like found money we're not saying that the colts you know found their next like grand slam dwight freeney robert matthus type player here but at least some intrigue particularly when it comes to gums with with what you saw from him on film yeah you know to be completely honest i'm not a huge fan of taking

edge rushers on day three we've talked about that on this show a couple times so you know there was always going to be that bias for me going into these two guys where it's like i just don't like spending draft capital on on day three picks. But for this for the series I'm doing on YouTube and for like the stuff I'm building up, I'm watching 15 to 20 games of these guys and trying to figure out what kind of players they are, where the strengths and weaknesses are and really just building my entire thoughts on them. And with George Guns, you know, for what he is, a day three edge rusher, I do think that

this is the type of player you want to take a bet on, right? In terms of, I mean, just four years ago, three and a half years ago, he was, was a tight end at Northern Illinois. Four years ago, he was a wide receiver at Northern Illinois. Four and a half years ago, he was walking on at Northern Illinois, right? So for him to climb all the way to being a starter at Florida by the end of his college career, I think is very impressive. It shows the work ethic.

It shows the energy. It shows the traits that he brings to the table. And then when you watch his film, you know, there's so much incomplete about his film because he just hasn't played defensive end very long at all at this point. but he has a lot of bend, a lot of, and that's one of the biggest things, right, as an edge rusher is winning to the outside with bend in explosion and speed. He has all of those traits in his arsenal,

and you could see them on occasion what this guy could be in the NFL. The thing is, it just wasn't consistent because he still has no clue how to play the position. He's a bit undersized. He isn't the strongest player. He doesn't have the biggest power profile yet. And he also has this tendency to fall step, which limits a little bit of his explosion. off the snap. But I just think when you're betting on someone on day three, you're betting on

the character and the traits, right? And with George Gumbs, you have the character, you have the traits. Now, will this guy follow the strict regimen we put him on? Will he gain the weight that we need him to gain? Will he develop a power profile? Will he learn to stop false stepping? Will he set an edge a little bit better? Those are going to be the big questions for I'm going forward. But I think if I'm going to bet on a day three edge, this is the type of guy I want to bet on. He shows great effort in the run game. I think the way that he takes on pullers in the run game, too, which was so much, like, violence and aggression.

I really love to see. I wish that Sam linebackers were a thing in this scheme because I think he could play some Sam linebacker, but ultimately the Colts play more of like a 5-2, 3-4 when they play base defense. So he'd be more of that outside edge, that wide nine type edge instead. But yeah, I think there's a lot to like with George Gums. It's just you probably have to redshirt him this year.

I don't think he really gets on. the field much the season outside of some special teams. And we'll see what he can develop going forward. I really wish there was a minor league system in the NFL. This is where a guy like George Gumbs would make so much sense. Like send him to the minors, add some weight, fix the false stepping and see what you look like next year. But instead, you kind of have to put him at, you know, you have to kind of put him at the

bottom of your roster and hope that he takes these lessons in stride. So I think there's some good things there with George Gumbs. It's a long shot that he works out in this league. But if you're going to bet on anybody, bet on the guy who was a walk-on wide receiver at Northern Illinois and ended his career as a starting edge at Florida. I respect betting on that type of player because he certainly has the work ethic. And if you're going to overcome being an outlier, you have to have an insane work ethic. So I hope it works out for him.

I became a big time fan of him watching his film. And I think there are a lot of traits there. He has the ingredients to be a good player. He just needs to put them all together. But I think there's a lot there to work with. Well, I think you said it best, Zach, when you said you're not looking for your future at edge on day three, but you are looking for traits. And I think the biggest trait that Gumbs brings to the table is his athleticism.

And I just have to say, you know, for as long as I play. and as long as I've been watching, how the defense has just gotten more athletic. And especially this year in this draft, it just seemed like all the athletes with all the great metrics and measurables were defensive players, you know, which I guess it has to be

because you dealing with the damn near world-class sprinters on the outside with the wide receiver. and your tight ends are super athletic and enforcers out there. So you need somebody, you know, to be athletic because so much is asked of a linebacker, of an edge rusher. I mean, you just can't be a one-trick pony and just rush to passer because that means you're only playing one down out of three, you know. So a guy like gums, he's got to be able to, like you say, set the edge, but then he's

got to be fast off of the corner. And he's got to be able to drop back sometimes because they may fake the blitz and he's got to drop back and maybe get an interception like LATU did. So it's unfortunately the minor league is college football. I know. And now they can stay in the minors a little bit longer because of that NIL money. You know, I would venture to say some guys take a pay cut coming to the NFL. So they can be developed a lot more while they're in college. You ask Kurt Signetti.

He's the one that figured out that a three-star 25-year-old would beat the hell out of an 18-year-old five-star. Yeah, my one thing with the college thing being a developmental league, though, is like here's the thing. Like, Derek, you and I follow sports that have minor leagues, right? You are a big baseball guy, me, a big hockey guy. And when you bring up, like, a 19-year-old, a 20-year-old to these minor leagues, it's with these, like, clear intentions from the upper thing on what you need to do if you want to make it to the show one day. If you want to make it to the NHL one day. Hey, we want to see you drive the net a little bit better.

Hey, we want to see how much your fastball control develops at the minors, right, with baseball. And you're given that direction from the top, right? My issue with college being the developmental league for these young players, though, is they're not getting that direction from the – I mean, their aging can tell them some stuff, right, on what they need to do. And you can maybe have a buddy who used to play in the league that tells you what to do, right? But Florida doesn't care if George Gumbs is playing at 220. I don't care if you can set the edge. Like, I'm just bringing you in here just to run a little bit of speed off the edge, scare some college tackles. You don't know how to move their feet and pressure quarterbacks that way.

Who cares if this doesn't work for the NFL? I'm trying to win games in college. You know, so that's my kind of issue with college football being the minor league, right? I like it when you have that clear distinction with them where it's like, hey, you're still part of our program and we want you to accomplish these things while you're in the minors. Whereas with NFL in college, they're two separate entities, you know, so they don't really have that clear conversation piece with it outside of just past draft history and past success stories. So it just annoys me a little bit as someone who wants to see younger talent develop better

in the NFL. Like, you know, the NFL gets the not for long stigma more than other leagues because it truly is, like outside of the WNBA who cuts half their draft picks, which I've followed a little before the last couple years. Outside of the WMBA, the NFL is the most ruthless of these leagues when it comes to young players because you just have to develop there or you're not going to play at all. So yeah, a player like George Gumbs, I think there's a player like George Gums, I think there's so much there, but how much leeway do you get as a fifth round pick in the NFL? Not much. So he needs to be like a rare outlier for this to work. And we'll see. And I kind of want to use this to transition over to Caden Curry real quick because I think he's one of the most

fascinating players I've ever watched on film. There is, he's so weird to watch on film, right? Where George Gumbs, you kind of understand the story with this guy, right? Like he's got the traits. He just doesn't know what he's doing yet, but maybe one day it can work out. Caden Curry, my nickname for him right now is all gas, no traits. Just all gas, no traits. There's just like if you were to put the most important traits for an edge rusher, like in a list, right, like to winning as a pass rusher in the NFL, right? It would be like bend, explosion, power profile, and like longer arms, right?

Like those would be the most important trait. He's got none of those. None of those tracks. Absolutely none of them. But he had 12 sacks Ohio State last year, right? How did he do that? He's got the craziest motor you'll ever see. Like, I'm seeing this defensive end running down running backs 40 yards down the field and then getting up and playing nose tackle the next play. Right. He is just an insane. He's an insane dude, which is how much effort he puts out there on every. And it's not only effort with him too. He's got some other things. Like I think he's got pretty quick hands as well. It's just he never makes first contact. He always has to have someone else contact him and then smack their hands off. And then he can go from there. Honestly, I wish he was like 280 pounds because I think he rushes pretty well inside rather than on the edge. And he's got some good instincts in the run game.

He's actually really interesting in coverage too because like Gumbs is a good athlete in coverage. But he just has like, again, no clue what he's doing. He's out there in coverage so he can't make any playoffs in the ball. Curry has great instincts in coverage. He's just a little bit clunky. and doesn't really move super well. But he's such a weird player to bet on on day three because I understand betting on the personality, right?

If you're watching film, Cate and Curry's flying everywhere. He's throwing his body all over the place. He's diving like 30 yards down the field, like I mentioned. I have multiple clips of him running 30 yards down the field after running backs. So like you respect the hell out of it. It's just how is he going to win as a pass rusher off the edge in the NFL? I don't know. So I kind of hope he can be.

pushed up to like 270 one day, 280 and rush inside. I think that's the better place for him. But yeah, I don't know. I'm curious. I'm really curious to see what happens with him because I could see him having a 10 plus career purely because of the energy and the effort and all that stuff. But traits matter so much of the position. If you can't bend the corner, I mean, there's just, when he goes against like NFL caliber tackles in college, he can't bend the corner at all. And he doesn't have much power. So he just gets stonewalled all game. But then he'll run the quarterback down because he's just this crazy energy, dude. So I don't know if I dislike him or like him or anything because he's just, he's really funny to watch, man. He's really funny to watch on film. I have so much respect for the guy, though, or earning that starting job at Ohio State last year and playing so many snaps for them.

So I hope it works out for him. But my gosh, he's just the craziest prospect I think I've ever watched. And totally a sixth round pick. Like, I get it. But we'll see how much of it works out for this next season. Very funny player on film, though, for sure. Well, I wanted to expand on that non-developmental league, which is college football. Do you know there are some quarterbacks that never, ever get under center,

their entire career at quarterback? And also, we'll never call a play in the huddle because they look over on the side, they got billboards up, you know, that doesn't add to their development. You know, now, fortunately, they are given the ability to read defenses and know where to go. But just those two little things, I think, has hurt the quarterback position for guys coming into the NFL. You know, I know for Notre Dame, we beg for them to put the quarterback under center when they have, especially when they have short yardage, and it's just easier to turn around and make a handoff

or do play action when the quarterback's under center as opposed to making a fake in the backfield where you're already, what, five yards deep and can throw it. So I think in the NFL, it's essential that a quarterback be able to play from under the center because there's just more things you can do. So I know I got off of Caden Curry, but I had to think about what you said about the non-development. And yes, I have to agree it does exist. It's too bad because they've tried, right? UFL, you know, we've tried multiple aspects of spring football, which have had the results that you guys have expected, right?

But maybe someday, maybe someday they can figure something about there. Thanks so much for joining us on this latest edition of the Colts Squad show. back with you on Thursday, 9.30 p.m. Eastern to react to the Colts schedule reveal. That's always been kind of one of the fun nights of the offseason, seeing all the schedule reveal videos from across the league. As always, the Colts news cycle never ends. So keep it locked on Jake and Zach every day on Locked on Colts. Be sure to follow at Lockdown Colts on socials and check out our other great content on YouTube and TikTok. And we'll see you next time right here on the squad show.