Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - COLTS SQUAD SHOW: Indy Draft SUPERLATIVES | Most Intriguing, Biggest Steal and More From '26 Class!

Episode Date: May 1, 2026

We talk Colts' Draft superlatives (Biggest Steal, Best Story, Most Intriguing, and more!) as we wrap up our week-long discussion on the 2026 class. Plus, the Colts wanted to get younger and faster on ...defense - did they accomplish that and put together a higher upside unit for 2026? The Squad convenes to discuss. Find and follow Locked On Colts on your favorite podcast platforms:  🎧 https://lockedonpodcasts.com/podcasts/locked-on-colts/  📺YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLdpxJspi1hMh5HL7ExpWOQ  Give the squad a follow on X/Twitter @Schultz975, @JakeArthurNFL, @ZachHicks2, @allenpinkett, @LockedOnColts, and @ColtsOn_SI, as well on TikTok and Instagram! Locked On NFL League-Wide: Every Team, Fantasy, Draft & More  🎧 https://lockedonpodcasts.com/podcasts/lockedoncolts  Everydayer Club  If you never miss an episode, it’s time to make it official. Join the Locked On Everydayer Club and get ad-free audio, access to our members-only Discord, and more — all built for our most loyal fans. Click here to learn more and join your team’s community: https://lockedonpodcasts.com/everydayerclub Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! FanDuel Today's episode is brought to you by FanDuel.Right now new customers can bet just five dollars and get one-hundred and fifty dollars in bonus bets if your first bet wins. Visit https://FANDUEL.COMto get started — Play Your Game. Indeed Listeners of this show get a $75 Sponsored Job Credit to help give your job the premium placement it deserves at http://Indeed.com/podcast. Rugiet Get 15% off your treatment → https://rugiet.com/lockedonnfl Rugiet. Performance medicine for men. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome into the Colts Squad Show. I'm your host, Derek Schultz. We already had a DJ. Now there's a CJ and an AJ. And I'm Zach Hicks. I'm very happy. I'm not a fan of the Atlanta Hawks tonight. I'm Jake Arthur.
Starting point is 00:00:13 Last night, I had my first real sleep since several weeks before the NFL draft when it was 6 a.m. And I found myself still in my daughter's bed. I'm Alan Pinkett, former Oiler. The picks are in. Now it's time to speculate. Here we go. Colts Nation rise up. It's the Colt Squad, everything Indianapolis Colts every week.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Covering all the big hits and game-changing plays from the Circle City, the way only the Locked-on podcast network can. It's time to squad up. The Colt Squad Joe starts now. Welcome to the Colts Squad Show. Happy to have you here on a Thursday. I'm Derek Schultz, long-time indie sports talker and sports commoners for the Indianapolis Business Journal.
Starting point is 00:00:59 I'm joined by a nerd name legend and longtime NFL. running back. You guys know him well, Alan Pinkett, along with the dynamic locked on Colts duo, the well-rested Jake Arthur, the probably well-rests? I don't know if you ever see. Zach Hicks. Rarely rested every day. Well, whenever you know, you got the retail background, too. I mean, that's, I'm going to work at 3 a.m. tomorrow morning. I'm not going to be well-rested whatsoever. As we wrap up our week-long diagnosis of the 2026 Colts draft class, we will hand out. I don't know if I call these awards. They're more. like, I don't know, titles, monikers. We're going to do our cults draft superlative. So
Starting point is 00:01:37 categories like biggest steel, best story, most intriguing, even biggest, huh, are on the docket for the first two segments. And we'll kind of make up our own and have some fun with it. You know, we kind of got into, and I know Jake and Zach especially got into the analysis, you know, at the end of the day, it's, it's fun to have fun with this stuff, right? And project out and kind of stake your claim on some of these guys. I know Jake has already planted his flag. for AJ Halsey. So we'll talk about that in the first two segments of this show. Does this now younger and hopefully quicker defense have more upside than last year's
Starting point is 00:02:12 unit? We'll compare and contrast and talk about where they sit today, knowing that more additions could come, as you've sort of alluded to, Alan, the fact that you think they're going to add another edge, they could still potentially do that. But we'll sit, you know, and now at the end of April and talk about where the 26th Colts roster and defensive roster is compared to 25. And then we'll go around the NFL in the last segment of the show. lots of interesting tidbits to hit on.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I normally am very adverse to the Aaron Rogers news cycle, but I do think what the Steelers did was pretty hilarious. The Texans extension in the division, I think that's something noteworthy, and we'll get to more stuff as well in the news and notes to wrap up tonight. But guys, let's start with the superlatives. And, you know, I wanted to begin with biggest steel, Zach. I think normally speaking, you would think the biggest steel would be like maybe a day three pick.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I think this qualifies because the Colts first pick came outside of the top 50. This guy was technically taken at 53 overall. But considering where most people had C.J. Allen, I thought you could make a strong argument that perhaps the Colts first pick of the draft was their biggest steal. And you normally wouldn't say that about your first selection. Yeah, no, that's actually exactly where I was going to go with the first, with this selection. here. Yeah, C.J. Allen to me was the top 30 guy all day, top 35 guy, wherever you wanted to put him in this strapped. I truly don't understand what led to him falling so far. Maybe it was just the knee injury, I guess. But, I mean, we're talking about a player where the character is off the charts. What he was asked to do with one of the most important defenses in college football at Georgia is just unheard of, right?
Starting point is 00:03:50 He was running that defense as a 20-year-old and a 19-year-old in the SEC the last couple years. They've been on record. saying that, like, yeah, he called our defense from the field and got guys lined up. So you add that. Plus, he ran a 4-4-7 coming off of the MCL injury in off-season workouts. Who knows what it could have been if he had a full off-season to train with all those workouts. When you see his coverage assignments, it's some of the hardest coverage assignments you'll see out of any linebacker in this class. Like, yeah, the results were a little mixed at times, but they trusted him to do all those things. And on top of that, he's like, what, second or third best run defending linebacker in the class as well. I mean, the Colts are getting a guy who's basically been a pro for multiple
Starting point is 00:04:32 seasons and they're going to be able to plop them in right at Mike Linebacker from day one. I think that he was just like people got caught up in the production to some of these other players who were much older and it took a long time from to get where they needed to be. This guy was producing at 19 years old in the SEC for Georgia and was leading that defense. I mean, it doesn't get much better than that. So to get him at 53, I think is an absolute steal. I never possibly dreamed he'd be there. I did throw in a little bit of C.J. Allen Love late in the process, just in case he fell that far.
Starting point is 00:05:03 But yeah, I'm completely shocked that he was not only available at 47, but available at 53. Props to the Colts for having the Gus to trade back when he was there at 47 because I don't, even though I wanted more picks, I don't know if I could have traded down with him being there at 47. So to get him, I think that's absolutely the biggest deal for the Indianapolis Colts. Zach Broward said he almost traded back again, but they didn't want to. He was playing with, yeah, he was testing it too much already with the first tradeback. I get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:32 No, I think that's a great pick, obviously, for a guy like that to be outside the top 50, I'm pretty comfortable declaring that Allen is going to be in the defensive rookie of the year race. I just think, like, the role he's going to play on the Colts, he's going to be so involved in things that I think he's just going to be one of the standout defenders in the NFL. And while I also wanted to pick Dionne Burks just on the basis of the fact there's no way, he should have been there in the seventh. I'm trying to look at like the actual impact and pop that the player is going to give you. And for that, I'm going to go with AJ Halsey.
Starting point is 00:06:06 They're picking. So this is a guy that knows how to take the ball away. He is always going to be one of the smartest players on the field. He is a plus athlete. He's been playing for three, four straight years. He keeps ascending up each level of competition from New Mexico to Houston to LSU. to LSU, which is like a defensive back factory. Like how many primetime safeties and defensive backs have we seen come out of LSU?
Starting point is 00:06:34 And he's just the latest example. But so long as he's able to, you know, start early with the Colts, which if not, it would just, you know, be a formality just to get a piece of veteran. But I think he's going to have a pretty instant impact. I think the fact that you have Soss Gardner and Mooney Ward on the outside, is going to funnel a lot of stuff for the quarterbacks inside. We're both Cambynum and AJ Halsey are going to have an opportunity to make play after play after play.
Starting point is 00:07:05 And if Halsey's not making an interception by baiting a quarterback into a throw, he's going to be able to lay a big hit on receivers and tight ends, anyone coming over the middle because that's just his game. As long as he's not just, you know, as long as he cleans things up in the tackling department and he doesn't become like a detriment out there, because we've talked about he's pretty much a feaster famine type player. Very smart, but because he's so comfortable, he kind of gets away with some things that may not work in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:07:35 But I just feel like he's going to be a big play magnet, especially with how much teams are going to, I assume, health permitted, knock on all the wood around here, have to test the Colts defense over the middle. I think a guy like Halsey is just going to be making offenses pay week after week. he's going to have his own growing pains as well, just like C.J. Allen will. But he's just a big play machine. I think his skill set is going to fit very well with how teams are going to play the Colts defense. So I think A.J. Halsey and C.J. Allen both are just unbelievable values where they were taken. Well, I want to say C.J. Allen was the biggest steal for the Colts just in terms of he might be taking a pay. pay cut coming here to the Colts.
Starting point is 00:08:25 After seeing his house and his draft party. In fact, I want to get in touch with this party planner next time I have a reception so they can decorate my place. AJ Halsey's draft party was at one of Rick Ross's houses. Okay. But C.J.'s
Starting point is 00:08:41 was at his house in Atlanta. So the Colts won't have to pay as much. I'll say it this way. He should probably probably getting first round money, but the Colts got away with giving them second round money by picking them at 53. So that's a steel, too.
Starting point is 00:09:01 I think Halsey is also a steel. I agree with the two of you. You know, remember what I said about Halsey. He reminds me of a smaller version of Steve Atwater. And, I mean, I know you guys probably may, you may not remember him. But I remember Tim Brown talking to me about when he was with the Raiders, and he would have discussions with Atwater. Before the game, just talking about, look, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:34 I'm going to be coming across the middle about six or seven times. You know, let's have a pact. You know, you don't knock me out, and I won't take your knees out when I'm blocking. But, you know, there was still that fear, you know, and anytime there's that fear, you can inflict that fear in a receiver, You know, they may not keep their eyes on the ball that long because they're worried about the hit they're going to take. And, you know, the benefit of being in the NFL is, you don't, if you hit somebody, you don't get ejected from the game. You might get a penalty.
Starting point is 00:10:09 You might get a fine. Well, he's getting paid now so he can pay the fine. So he may go ahead and sell out and go make the big splash hit. But having said all that, I think the biggest deal is Dionne Burks. If he is what folks say that he is, some of his measurables impress me, especially the bench pressing 225, 26 times. You know, look, he's not going to be Bruce Lee out there kicking everybody's butt. But if you hit him, he will be.
Starting point is 00:10:49 able to absorb a hit, you know, because I did bench. I want to say it was either 21 or 22. And, I mean, when I came into the NFL, I was benching 410. And, you know, I couldn't go push over a building or anything like that. But what it did was it padded me so that I could withstand all the hits. So I think that, you know, when I heard 26 times on the bench, this guy can take a hit. But then when I heard the four three and the 40, I was like, oh, Lord, you know, the combination of strength and speed. And it's just when I watch him play, it looks like he's got those strong hands, you know, where he can snatch it out of the air. And so him being a piece in that offense, I know how much I was hoping for Malachi feels. All right. And I know how much I was hoping for a big receiver. But how about this? How about an open receiver?
Starting point is 00:11:56 How about a guy who can get open? I don't care how tall he is. If he can get open and catch the ball and has four three speed and they get him in the seventh round, to me, that represents the biggest deal. Because let's face it, we're going to talk about the defense tonight. But this team is going to win the game. on offense. You know, they have invested most of their assets on offense. They are going to win by outscoring teams. You know, they're not going to have any 10 to 7 wins. You know, they are looking to put up 40 every game. And they should have the personnel, albeit if Daniel Jones is healthy, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:41 they will have the opportunity to drop 40 on every and all teams. in the league. So the biggest deal to me, they probably didn't think they were going to fill that wide receiver void with a seventh rounder, but they may have been able
Starting point is 00:13:01 to do it with Dionne Burks. That was hard for me to recover from you mentioning that you and Tim Brown were in Notre Dame at the same time. That's unreal. They're all-time leading rusher and a Heisman winning receiver at the same time. Who's your Kaiser's quarterback? Berlin?
Starting point is 00:13:16 Yeah, Steve Burr. And NFL quarterback. Dear God. Okay. And he played both Steve Brown and Steve Berline and Tim Brown both played 17 years in the league. Yeah. That's really, really wild. Since multiple people brought up Dionne Burks,
Starting point is 00:13:36 I'll go to my next category, which was most intriguing. And I think I'm honestly the most intrigued by Burks just because when you look at a lot of the other day three picks. When you talk about upside, which generally is the case with a day three pick, but I think Berks, at least you're intrigued by the things you just mentioned, Alan, the speed and some of the elite traits that he has. He has a couple. The problem is that he's so small, right? I'm not just saying this because I'm wearing a Purdue hoodie, but from watching Burks before he left Purdue. And it reminded me a little bit, not quite the level of explosiveness
Starting point is 00:14:12 that this guy had, but this guy was a special player and God rest his soul. But Ron Dale Moore, right? It was sort of that way too, where, you know, here's the guy that has all the athleticism and speed and explosiveness and can cut and do all those things. But, you know, he's my size, essentially. And you guys probably can't tell, but I'm not the most physically imposing person. So I'm just intrigued by Berks because, and I do think, Zach, that in his defense, there is maybe not necessarily a role in year one for him, but there is,
Starting point is 00:14:42 it's not like this wide receiver depth chart is overwhelmingly deep, right? So there is room at the end, if you will, if Burks can just sort of carve out a spot for himself and show a little something here because that's essentially what you're doing. It's a seventh round flyer, right? Yeah. No, I'll be a little quick here because I know we got to get to the next segment. But yeah, I mean, he's super athletic, very high contested catch rate, very low drop rate. He just didn't really get targeted too much was the big thing throughout his college
Starting point is 00:15:11 career and he dealt with a couple injuries as well. So I do think like I wouldn't go big a steal just because I do think there are some red flags with him. But when we're going like most intriguing, absolutely the most intriguing player with his athleticism, with the underlying metrics that were in his game. Again, yards per route run worked very good because he didn't get many targets. But when he was targeted, a lot of good things happened. So I think there is a lot of intrigued to be had there. I don't think he's a normal seventh round pick. But we'll, just see if he can if he can surpass that with the Indianapolis Colts. Again, those first couple training camps will be really big to see how much the Colts value him. If he's running
Starting point is 00:15:50 with the first or the second team, then that could be a really good sign of things that come for him. If he's on the developmental squad, then it probably means that you'll be like a practice squad guy. So I'm very intrigued by him, though, for sure. We still have plenty more superlatives to get to. Hell, Jake hasn't even said everything he's going to say about AJ Halsey yet. So we'll come back and talk about that more. We'll keep up the drumbeat. next when the Colts Squad show returns. This portion of the Colts Squad show brought you by Indeed,
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Starting point is 00:17:57 I got an intriguing one. Okay. So I'm going to take, I'm going to make Zach proud here. So for me, I think Jalen Farmer is super intriguing because it's a fourth round pick. And on most other teams, I don't want to, that's not a throwaway pick yet at that point in the draft. But it could still be a developmental pick at that point for the Colts. That's very much a guy that's in the mix, potentially to start, especially with Tony Sparano, Jr. being the offensive line coach there. So I just think Jalen Farmer's addition could mean so many different things. It could be as high as he is in contention to start at right guard over a guy in Matt Gonzalez,
Starting point is 00:18:36 who I don't think any of us were really looking to replace in the lineup. He could be your third guard, which could then force Dalton Tucker into be. the backup center, which would alleviate another problem. Farmer could compete to be the swing tackle, which again alleviates another problem because Luke Tanuta versus Blake Freeland isn't the most appealing swing tackle battle. So this is a guy that, I mean, just his presence alone, as long as he looks, you know, decently well this summer could solve a couple different issues for you. So I think that one is pretty intriguing again, because it's a fourth round pick at a position that none of us were really looking to upgrade in the starting lineup yet,
Starting point is 00:19:19 but he could very well be that, that, I don't want to say missing piece, but that upgraded piece. Yeah, one thing I want to respond to real quick. I watched a lot of Farmer today about five games. I still want to get like every game he's played the last two years watched before I make a full thing,
Starting point is 00:19:34 but I think the Colts might be a little insane with the swing tackle talk. I have no clue why they're bringing that up. Let's not talk about that. He's athletic, but he's so slow. the ball sometimes that I don't want him to tackle. But I guess we'll see in training camp. But I do think at worst, he competes for like a guard spot.
Starting point is 00:19:53 And I think he's going to be a good guard. Yeah, I wrote about it today. Because Jeremy Fowler from ESPN, he put in his like post-draft intel piece that Jalen Farmer might play sooner rather than later. And I looked at it in every offensive lineman that the Colts have drafted since Tony Sparano Jr. got here with the exception. of Jake Witt who had a career-ending hip injury and his rookie training camp, they all have played extensively, like hundreds of snaps on average as rookies.
Starting point is 00:20:26 So it's a lot closer to like a certainty that Farmer is going to play this year rather than a possibility because every other player they've drafted for Spirano has played pretty immediately. Zero day one starters, though. They always came in. They come in at some point and then entrenched themselves. Because injuries always happen on the offensive lines. So if that's what Fowler is predicting that he's going to get in there for the injury,
Starting point is 00:20:49 you can make that prediction about every six off the line in around the week. So I think he was more so talking about competing for a starting job, which could be in the cards for him. But Farmer will be on the field for like 200 plus snaps this year for sure, guarantee that. Well, I just want to say any every dayer that's watching right now, y'all are lucky as hell. I mean, Zach and Jake still grinding, going back and watching. film a farmer he's already picked.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Got to. Still grinding. That's how you know you're getting the absolute truth about what these players are going to be. So every day is you're blessed to be able to be filled with this type of knowledge. But anyway, most intriguing. Most intriguing to me. And I'm going to, it'll be like a pun. I'm going to butcher his name.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Bryce Becher. Is this what we're doing with here? Bryce, Bryce Becher is my most intriguing. And I'll tell you why, because, you know, in the league, we're hearing all kinds of things about measurables. And the one I heard the most this year, which I didn't think was a thing, but it is a thing. Is this arm-length thing, you know. And, you know, there's all sorts of things. But, you know, I guess there's been enough time.
Starting point is 00:22:14 to compile a lot of these things to figure out who your ideal player is. I think the coach just threw all that mess out of the window when they picked Betcher because they saw a guy who on film gave 110% effort, had a great motor, a guy that plays with a chip on his shoulder, a walk on. You think this guy is a little bit determined. So I expect Betcher, you know, in a league where, you know, they've always got to measure things, they decided, you know, we're going to go based on our instincts for this guy's ability to play football.
Starting point is 00:22:58 It was to me one of those, when I turn on the tape, I see a dude who can make plays. And I think Betcher will be a standout special teamer. I know he'll get some defensive plays, but I think he'll be a standout special. teamer because you need a high energy guy like that on special teams just to give the rest of the unit an edge. Yeah, I went with for Betcher, I gave it most reliable. And I kind of viewed that and you guys, Zach and Jake, you can tell me if you agree. I viewed that as sort of like the high floor thing where I think at the very least, Betcher, he was a sure tackler who played a ton of college games at a major program in Oregon, right? He had a ton of snaps on special
Starting point is 00:23:41 teams during that time too. And I think at the very least, you know, again, linebacker is another room. It's not like there are a bunch of established guys in front of him. He can probably carve out a role for himself there. But I feel like most reliable just because I feel like maybe more than certainly more than maybe any of the other day three picks, you sort of know what you're going to get with Betcher. If that makes sense, Sack. Yeah, is this what our next appellative is, most reliable pick here? That's what I went with for him. Yeah, I'm just piggybacking on Allen picking Betcher for that category. That's what I picked him for most reliable.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Yeah, most reliable. I mean, yeah, I mean, I think Betcher, because I think there's just going to be a steady floor with him, right? Because even if it doesn't work out on defense, I think you're going to get a really good special teamer. Like Allen said, this is a former walk-on that had to grind for everything in college. And, I mean, go from a walk-on to a multi-year starter at Oregon is impressive, right? We rarely see, like, walk-on starters at these major programs. Like, how often do you have a walk-on starter at Alabama, a Georgia? and Oregon you can throw in there as well, right? You rarely hear of these things.
Starting point is 00:24:43 So when those guys do make up that become that kind of player, it is notable in these draft cycles. So, yeah, even though I wasn't the biggest, like, Betcher fan, I do think that he is a steady presence that's going to be brought there. And it makes you feel much better about linebacker, having him as your third linebacker or maybe your will linebacker this next season. So, yeah, I think most reliable makes a lot of sense for him. Maybe, I mean, maybe Caden Curry because, like, you know, we kind of know what we're going to get out of Caden Curry.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Like, right? We're going to get a lot of special teams. We're going to get high effort. Like, he'll probably dress for more games this year than George Gumbs, if I had to guess, right? Because George Gumbs Jr. is like higher, like a bigger athlete, but it's going to take a minute for him to get on the field where Caden Curry, like, he can come out. He's an NFL level run defender already. He's going to give you the effort. He's going to give you anything that you need as, like, a bottom of the roster defense.
Starting point is 00:25:37 end. So for doing like most reliable. Like I'm convinced that guy's going to show up on time every day, put in the work and do what he needs to do to last in this league longer than his rookie contract. So I think those are probably the two guys I think would would be like the most reliable on day three outside. I mean, obviously most reliable is CJ Allen if I had to really pick one because duh, right? But we're doing day three like yeah, yeah, like Betcher or Caden Curry, I think like those guys are are going to be grinders. And I think they're going to have high floors for this team as well. I was going to say Curry as well, just because I think like him and C.J. Allen, I think are
Starting point is 00:26:13 two guys who I immediately know what their role is going to be. And for Curry, I think there's a lot of guys to have to battle with at defensive end. We're probably rarely going to see him on defense as a rookie. But special teams, I think we'll see him a lot. He average like 152 special team snaps per year at Ohio State. And it's kind of the same situation he's walking into in the NFL as he was at Ohio State. buried behind NFL talent, but managed to find a way to get playing time through special teams every year. And I think that's what he'll drop in doing. And like he's the kind of guy where whatever that role is, he's going to give it 110%. He even like, he blocked a kick last year for
Starting point is 00:26:57 Ohio State too after finally becoming a starter on defense. So I think he'll be a core special teams guy he'll be i don't know directly who he's going to replace um but like the colts lost some significant special teams players so i'm kind of intrigued to see if he's like even like a shagoo alubi type i know alubi's a linebacker but uh i think he'll be a core guy and we'll see him i think we'll see him wind up with like quite a few special team stops as well uh but we also have to throw a j halsey into here because i mean whether he starts immediately or not I mean, I think he's going to be on special teams as well. So he's going to be, he's like built for special teams too.
Starting point is 00:27:39 He's going to fly around. He's a guy that knows how to strip the ball as well. So he's going to be creating turnovers on kickoff coverage and everything. So come on. AJ Halsey, creating takeaways on special teams, on defense. Jake, I mean this so lovingly with AJ Halsey, because I mean, I just talked about it for 42 minutes in a video I made today. So I do love AJ Halsey.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Reliable is not the word I would put in there just because there's going to be some ebbs and flow. You're going to rely on the big plays, baby. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, reliable in the same way that, like, Shaquille Leonard was reliable, right? Like, you know, you're probably going to get something from him, but down-to-down reliability, probably not. But, yeah, no, I do agree that he's going to be, like, a huge part. But reliable is not the first word, I would say, great J. Halsey. When you need a takeaway in the fourth quarter, there's one guy who's going to deliver it to you.
Starting point is 00:28:28 I mean, look, that is, he'd be on my short list of guys who could get that turnover. I will 100% agree. do there. Well, it's hard for me to pick the most reliable when they haven't played it down yet. Fair. I'll take the journey with us. Come on. Yes. But I think that a number of guys could qualify. But I'd rather pivot to best story. And to me, the best story is Seth McGowan and didn't realize it. But Carly got on the phone and, you know, had a few words of wisdom for him. And I just want to, how many in the history of the draft, how many seventh rounders have had the owner of the team get on the phone and give them a pep talk?
Starting point is 00:29:22 It just doesn't happen. Hell, Tom Brady didn't get talked to by the owner. Tom Brady had to go run the owner down and said, you made the best pick of your life when you got me. So that's the best story. And his story is one of redemption. I think when Carly made the statement to him that she probably can't cut him now. So he might be on the team.
Starting point is 00:29:52 But this is a guy who, look, made a mistake and none of us are perfect, paid his debt to society. and decided that football is still what he wanted to do, which I've always said that, you know, long as you can make plays, I don't care what the hell you do. You can play the NFL, long as you can make plays, you know.
Starting point is 00:30:14 But it's just a great story of redemption and overcoming great obstacles. And watch out, because this guy could be an excellent leader on this football team, you know, because he's gone down the wrong road. and saw where that led. So he can be an inspiration to a lot of people about don't ever give up on your dream, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:39 and you will make mistakes, but don't let that mistake define you. Let that mistake be the thing that drives you. And he can say, I made the biggest mistake of all, and I'm sitting here in the NFL. So kids don't give up on your dream. So to me,
Starting point is 00:30:56 that's the best story. And I know that, you know, Carly's comment has gone viral. But I just would have to say I'm proud of her. I would want to play for an owner like that that's going to come on the phone and, you know, know what my story is and still pick me and give me that chance. And I think that this is one of those guys that could really be a lift to this football team. Yeah, and I'll be really quick with this too because I know we have to move on.
Starting point is 00:31:28 but I think if we're doing best story, just real quick, and it's like the lone guy we really haven't mentioned here from the draft class, but George Gums Jr., to me is probably my favorite story, a guy who's changed positions multiple times. Oh, yeah. Very, very athletic player, but basically did every single thing he could, right, to figure out his right spot to get ready for the NFL. And then we're talking about the phone calls.
Starting point is 00:31:49 I mean, him just crying on the other end of his call and saying, like, you're not going to regret this and all that. Like, it got me pretty pumped up, right? to hear about this guy who's so ready for the opportunity. So, you know, he's got a long road to go. It's tough for an edge rusher to, you know, be a day three pick and figure it out in the NFL. But he's got the athletic tools. He's, he's grinded his way to where he is now.
Starting point is 00:32:13 And he's found the right spot for him. So I'm hoping it works out in the NFL. And that's, you know, I'm rooting for him. I hope it really works out for him because I thought a lot with what his story is really, really resonated with me. you know for a guy who is going to wind up in canton you know it's always a really good story the day you get drafted so a j halsey there you go in all hey in all seriousness i mean we mentioned bet you're a walk-on you know it's one thing to walk on and become a standout you know gums it was a mac walk on for god's sake and went from a mac walk on to an nfl draftee that's pretty incredible i would love to know the percentage odds of that happening
Starting point is 00:32:54 come back on the show the Colts have moved on or are moving on from several veterans on defense while getting focused on being younger and faster with that unit. Do they now have a higher upside defense? We'll talk about it when the Colts Squad Show turns next. And we're back on the locked on Colts Squad Show alongside Alan Pinkett, Zach Hicks and AJ Halsey superfan Jake Arthur. I'm Derek Schultz. Thanks so much for being here. Moving on from the draft class, even though the draft class, I guess, is part of this segment because as we talk about this deal, defense. It's not a full remake, I wouldn't say, but I think a lot more changes than we would have thought on, you know, January 1st ended up happening with this defense. I'll list them out here. This isn't every single move that they've made, but just to kind of give people an idea. Going out, Zaire Franklin, Quitty Pay, Nick Cross, Kenny Moore, let's just put him on the out, right? Samson Epacom, J. J. Pratt, Colts defense in C. C.J. Allen, Arden Key, A.J. Halsey, Akeem Davis Gather, Cam Taylor, Britt, Juan Yeh Thomas.
Starting point is 00:34:03 I don't think, Zach, if you're just looking on paper, you would make that trade straight up, right? With what the Colts are putting in compared to what is going out. That said, they did say they wanted to get younger and faster. I don't know if they got incredibly much younger or faster in either of those categories, but at the very least, can we say maybe this is a higher upside defense or a higher upside defense in 2025, specifically because of Allen and Halsey and their first two picks of the draft class. I mean, honestly, it's like slightly pivot away from the draft class. It's a higher upside defense purely because the two starting corners going into day one
Starting point is 00:34:39 compared to who the two starting corners were going into day one last year. Right. Like Mooney Ward was here both years, but Mooney Ward plus Sauce Gardner. And hopefully, you know, Justin Wallach is healthy going into the training camp as well or going into the season as well. I think that you have so much more potential at Corner than where week one last year, it was Xavier and Howard, Kenny Moore, and Mooney Ward. And Mooney Ward only lasted two games before his injuries piled up.
Starting point is 00:35:05 So the fact that you have Soss Gardner now in there makes this defense a higher upside than day one of last year's defense. Right. But according to, like with all the big moves they made this off season, right, by getting younger with guys like Allen and Halsey, it is a big bet, right? You're betting on rookies to come in and replace multi-year starters. And Nick Cross and Zire Franklin, two guys who, I mean, Franklin is what, two years removed for being an all pro pro pro bowl alternate or close to a pro bowl alternate before as well. So yeah, like I think that they are taking a chance here by getting younger players in here,
Starting point is 00:35:39 but you're trying to like you're trying to basically fit guys more to Luan Rumo's scheme. Essentially what you're trying to declare from last year was like, hey, a lot of these guys on the outs just were not fits for what we wanted to do. They were more Matt Eberflus guys, more Gus Bradley type guys. it's time to get Lou Ann Rumo's guys in here so they can do what they need to do. And remember last year with the Colts defense, they were pretty solid the first half of last season. It really fell apart down the stretch. That's what like when they played against the 49ers, right?
Starting point is 00:36:09 It really fell apart in those last couple games. But they were like a perfectly fine defense for a good chunk of the season. So they're hoping that just getting in some guys at these core positions that more so fit what they want to do can lead to better results next season. It's a gamble. It's a big time gamble. And as of right now, I don't know if, like, the defensive line is better this year than what it was going into last season, right? With losing quitty pay and I don't think they've replaced that position yet. And maybe, you know, like right now, DeForest Buckner might be a lesser version of what he was going into last year. So, you know, there are some questions still with this defense, but they, I think they did accomplish what they wanted to do.
Starting point is 00:36:51 It's like get these younger replacements at some key positions and try to fit, more of what Anorumo wants on that side of the ball. If it doesn't work, then there's no excuses, right? Like, you could say your excuse last year was like, hey, these guys didn't fit my system. If it doesn't work this year, like, oh, they were too young. Well, this is what you wanted, right? So it's all excuses are off the table now. So regardless if it works or not, there is, you know, the path has been chosen, right?
Starting point is 00:37:19 And you're going to have to roll with what you picked here. So, yeah, I think that we'll see how it ultimately plays out. I understand the decision and we'll see, again, like very different flavors at safety and linebacker now compared to what they had. We'll see if that works out for the better next season. Yeah, the whole thing is really intriguing because what you do mainly lose is a great deal of experience. A lot of the guys who are coming in are either just as experienced as guys they're replacing
Starting point is 00:37:48 or far less experience. So what you give up there, I do think, like, guys with. with ball skills and the ability to take the ball away, I think that's gonna be a little better. And then you've just got the health of it all. You know, Mooney Ward being back for however much he can give you, Sauce Gardner being back is enormous, a guy you gave up two first round picks for,
Starting point is 00:38:12 whatever version of himself DeForest Buckner now is, Justin Wally, like just the health, I think is gonna play a big factor. The linebackers, that one's weird because I think they took a big step back in making big plays versus 2024. Because like, Zaire Franklin was a stat sheet stuff for in 2024. He was taking the ball away like no one's business,
Starting point is 00:38:35 but he did it zero times last year, at least not directly. He did force a fumble that was recovered by the Colts, but he didn't have any picks. He himself didn't recover any fumbles. But, you know, like Latu can take the ball away, like probably not going to do it three times again. But Halsey's obviously a ball,
Starting point is 00:38:55 talk. C.J. Allen, I think, is capable of more than what he did at Georgia, and plus putting him in a new system may put him in better position to make plays like that, you know, especially if the ball is being thrown over the middle of the field. So I do think they're going to take the ball away more than they did before. More youth is going to lead to probably better athleticism, but probably more mistakes just because it's a less experienced group now. But I'm super intrigued. I really don't know what to think. Like, I do think they're younger and faster. But maybe you see some more mental lapses out there. Maybe some miscommunications more often than we saw before. But I don't know. The whole thing could be feast or famine because that's just kind of how a young defense is.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Well, I would say that you cannot undervalue speed on defense and in playing fash. And I guess one example I will give you, and it's, you know, from 40 years ago, was when the University of Miami came onto the map. And look, I'm the last person who want to give any credit to the University of Miami after they kick my ass 58 to 7. But Jimmy Johnson introduced speed on defense, you know, and that just totally, totally transformed that team. Now, fast forward, I watched the Seattle defense last year and watching the Texans. And yeah, they had some hard hitters. But those guys played very, very fast. And it reminds me of something that Will Smith said, you know, about his golf game.
Starting point is 00:40:44 It's like, if you're going to play bad, play bad fast. You know, so having said that there's going to be some mistakes made, you know, but you can forgive a physical mistake, which you can't forgive are the mental mistakes. You know, so with a faster defense, you're going to have some guys overrunning. You're going to have some guys missing, some guys ticking the wrong angles,
Starting point is 00:41:09 but those are physical mistakes. Those can be corrected with pursuit angles, different pursuit angles, you know, but you don't want guys back there thinking about what they can do. And I know there's still an emphasis on being fast off of the edge. But with the two corners that you have, you know, you may not need to have that top line edge guy. You just need a fast guy because you're going to get the coverage on the back end. You know, and if, you know, you can get the safety's playing fast. I know that Lou Anorumo likes to have his safety.
Starting point is 00:41:51 being involved in the blitz package also. And when I watched Seattle in the Super Bowl, those safeties were blitzing from like 20 yards away and still getting to the quarterback. You know, and all that kind of stuff, speed just disrupts an offense. And if the goal was to have more speed and get faster, then they may have accomplished that. I don't know if they got any more athleticism or, you know, waiting to see if they're going to get, you know, more of a experienced rusher.
Starting point is 00:42:27 But they got guys that are going to play fast. And playing fast can, you know, do its own little bit of damage to the offense. Yeah, it's interesting, guys, because they have all these new faces, right? But I think, you know, forget younger and faster. If we're just talking, is the Colts defense going to be better in 2026? I think so much of it relies on what they're going to get. get out of Sauce Gardner and what they're going to get out of Latu, right? Is Latu actually going to make that leap or is he just going to be whatever?
Starting point is 00:42:58 Because the Colts have had a bunch of whatever type guys at edge. And if Latsu is going to be a real game wrecker and if sauce is anything close to what he was at his peak in New York, then I think we're having a very different conversation. I know the defense is more than two players, Zach, but I think we're having an entire different conversation about what this unit could be in 26. Yeah, I mean, it ultimately comes down to the production. from three players in my opinion. It's Sauce Gardner, what he gives them, like, even if he's not taking the football way, is he forcing teams to throw away from his side of the field, right?
Starting point is 00:43:30 That's insanely valuable to a defense, whether he's the boundary side or the field side, like if he is the guy who teams cannot throw to and he's taking away half that field, that is insanely valuable. If Lawtu takes that next step, that's another big part of this. And then what are they going to get from DeForest Buckner? I know I keep bringing it up, but like that's a huge question, right because that is one of your star players or a guy you're paying to be a star player um if you can get 17 games out of him and he's back to being de force buckner then you feel great uh but that those are going to be your big players and then it's just health man it really is healthy you know you don't like to make excuses but oh why are the use in texans so good well denial hunter and and will
Starting point is 00:44:11 anderson didn't miss a game last year that whole secondary missed like what one game total between them like last year their linebackers barely miss time. Like, they were an extremely healthy and talented defense. I'm not saying the Colts can be as good as the Texans defense, right? They don't have those game wreckers off the edge. But it helps when they're actually on the field, right? Like the Colts highest paid players were not playing last year on defense. Like outside of Zaire Franklin and Kenny Moore, and Kenny Moore was hurt for a while too. So outside of Zaire Franklin, they're like all their highest pay players were hurt last year. So being healthy on defense is a huge part of this, but also
Starting point is 00:44:47 your star players performing like star players. So Soss Gardner needs to be a star player like he's been in this league. DeForest Buckner needs to be that star player they're paying him to be. Mooney Ward kind of part of that as well. But Latsu needs to emerge as one as the 15th overall pick going into his third season who has had increased production in his first two years after eight and a half sacks last year and what like three or four picks that he had last year as well, it is time for him to take that next step. That is going to be the biggest thing for this defense on top of just staying healthy.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Yeah, it's going to be an interesting to see how it all sort of plays out here because we're playing out some of the best case scenario. And Jake, there's certainly a worst case scenario where Latu doesn't make that leap. Their second edge is a disaster. DeForest Buckner is cooked and Soss Gardner isn't close to being the player
Starting point is 00:45:41 that you gave up two ones for. Yeah, I think when I consider if they're going to be better, you look at like what was wrong last year. And if those things are going to repeat themselves, health, certainly I think was the biggest issue. And like Zach pointed out, like you had plenty of primetime players on that team. But for the most part, they were banged up. Like, it's pretty, it's a pretty big deal when your Pro Bowl level three tech and your two Pro Bowl level corners aren't out there. And this rookie corner who you were expecting to play a ton, to never even go.
Starting point is 00:46:15 got to start playing and like at no point where the Colts not playing catch up with their personnel like from the very beginning they were on like their fourth or fifth corner you know and the pass rush it was not as good as they thought you know Latu wasn't ready to dominate and they didn't have anyone opposite of him ready to take pressure and attention away from him so I do think the weight of Latu's development is monumental to this because they're pass rush. They have 39 sacks, which is whatever. Like, I think they were tied for 15th last year, but it needs to be better because
Starting point is 00:46:54 consistency, I think, is the big issue. Like, there were times where they weren't hardly ever pressuring the quarterback. I think they had at least a couple games where they didn't touch the quarterback. So that kind of stuff can't happen. And then, yeah, just the health and reasonable play of your stars has to be around expected. And I would say the stars have to be stars. And I expect Sauce and Mooney to really come back with a vengeance because it's one of those deals. How they went away last season, they don't want to go out like that.
Starting point is 00:47:28 So I think they're going to have some huge, huge chips on their shoulder to come back and make amends and reclaim their greatness. So I can't wait. we come back as we wrap up this edition of locked on cold squad show we will go around the NFL a big extension for a defensive leader in the division and we're going to spend three minutes on Aaron Rogers and no more I promise that's next so welcome back final time locked on cold squad show we got the whole squad here thanks so much for joining us my dad is a big like national show watcher when it comes to of sports. And as we know, if you exclusively watch national content, you get a lot on Aaron Rogers or you get a lot on LeBron James. Is he going to blow an 0-3-0 lead? You know, like you just kind of recycle the same thing. Dallas Cowboys, New York Yankees, Duke basketball over and over again. So I actually get hit up a lot about not only his grandson from my dad, but I also get hit up a lot. Hey, did you see this about Aaron Rogers today? And almost all the time, I'm like, No, dad, I did not see. But when he did text about the UFA tender, I was like, wait, what? And I, you know, read a little bit into it. And Zach, you and Jake are so good at dumbing this down.
Starting point is 00:48:59 I know, Alan, you feel the same way, right? Because this, you know, the salary cap stuff, tax stuff, whatever else. But if I'm understanding this right, the Stewards basically did this because there's a way they can get a comp pick if he signs before training camp starts. And if he doesn't sign before training camp starts, then suddenly they can. get like exclusive negotiation rights is do i have that right yeah it's very rarely used so i haven't really looked into it too much uh so maybe maybe you know a little bit more than i do with that jake but i think only certain players qualify for it and it's just not used very often i mean look the the sealers are protecting themselves against the wishy-washy nature of aaron rogers at this point right
Starting point is 00:49:38 like if you because you never know one day to the next he could be you know he could be retiring or he could be coming back to start or what I don't even know like he could be starting a podcast career I don't know like you know he could be a colleague of ours in the next minute here so they're just protecting themselves against what his nature is I guess at this stage of his career in life but yeah it's very rarely used thing but I think if you're going to use it for anybody you use it for a player like that so I don't know a ton about it because I because like you Derek I had no interest in really looking into it because I know the Colts aren't going to ever use something like that. Like they'll never use that.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Like they don't have situations like this. So I really haven't looked into it too much. But Jake, do you know more about this rarely used thing? Not really. I don't even understand how they can do it. It's like he's been an unrestricted free agent. How can you just call dibs on a guy that like, yeah, it's not under contract with you anymore?
Starting point is 00:50:38 I don't understand it. And like, I'm sorry, but like if I'm a Steelers fan, are you not just tired? of this team. Like the mediocrity. Now, this is coming from Colts people. Yeah. We're experts on this.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Yeah. So we're experts. We can say this because we're Colts people. But the mediocrity they are settling into is unbelievable. Like, you're just going to let Aaron Rogers hold your offseason hostage. You get what's that gotten you so far? Like you now, you know, sat on your hands and didn't get into the quarterback's
Starting point is 00:51:14 week sweepstakes and everything like everything's going to work out. Aaron Rogers by mid July will finally commit to them because he's such a committal guy. And, you know, that'll avoid them having to go with Will Howard or our boy Drew Aller, you know. You got to get healthy first too. Yeah, no kidding. But it's like, what are what are you doing here? This is not like 2010 or God. Like 2019 Aaron Rogers we're talking about here.
Starting point is 00:51:47 This is the ghost of Aaron Rogers past. What are you doing here? Like this is so far, this is not a guy that you let dictate your plans. I'm just so baffled by this. And like I loved Aaron Rogers in his heyday. I think he's one of the most talented quarterbacks we've ever seen. But my God,
Starting point is 00:52:06 I'm not letting this senior citizen railroad my off season. I'm tired of hearing about it. They ran like a quick screen only offense. last year, quick screen or like a one read and like we're going to throw a little fade up the sideline maybe. Like that's the only thing they could do with him last year. So maybe McCarthy can squeeze out a little bit more out of him. But look, I know the counting stats were fine.
Starting point is 00:52:29 But I mean, Carson Wentz's counting stats were fine in 2021, right? Like we know he's had a career of counting stats in Carson. We saw that that Colts game. Like the Steelers beat the Colts by like one score, if I'm not mistaken, because the Colts had six or seven turnovers. Yeah. If it was past like third and six, if it was past third and six, he was just taking a sack or he was putting it on the ground. Like, unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Their offense was not sustainable in any way. And we saw it in the playoffs when they ran into a real team like the Texans. It was just one of the ugliest offensive performance. And Texans did to everybody. Like, that's what the Texans do. But it just wasn't even remotely competitive. So, yeah, I don't understand like putting your whole season on the line for them. And yeah, I've, Steelers fans.
Starting point is 00:53:13 It honestly might be more beneficial for them at this point to start Will Howard, for real. Yeah. You can get that top pick. He's just more physically capable of doing things at this point, I think. I don't know. Well, I'll tell you, I'm usually pro player most of the time. But I'm not mad at the Steelers for making this tender because, let's face it, after the draft, you're sort of putting on a blinder and saying, okay, this is what we're.
Starting point is 00:53:43 going into the season with. Let's start game planning right now. We know what kind of defense, you know, we're going to see in the division, you know. So let's start formulating a plan now. And with Aaron Rogers not there, you can't put your game plan together, you know. And so it's not only, he's hurting the entire team, you know, so make a damn decision, you know. Either, you know, you're committed to coming or go ahead and walk off into the sunset. But you're holding up an entire organization.
Starting point is 00:54:25 And these days in the offseason are valuable in terms of a team growing, a team being able to hit on all cylinders, you know, to, you know, maybe think he's going to come in July, that's too damn late. You know, because, trust me, right after the draft and they start having those rookie minicamps, that game planning is going in right now. Yeah, the opposite program is going. Yeah, this is when you really start to build the chemistry. So now the Steelers are sitting there.
Starting point is 00:55:07 They've got to think that Will Howard is going to be their quarterback and probably go forward like that, you know, but it's going to trip them up if Aaron Rogers comes back, say, early July, late June. Now they've got to turn everything around. Now the receiver's got to get used to, you know, how the ball's going to come out with Aaron versus how it's going to come out with Will Howard. You know, there's so many things that you try to fine-tune before you even put the pads on so that when you get to the regular season, you can be competitive and put yourself in a position to win games. I guess the only other thing I'll say is it doesn't matter who they have throwing to that
Starting point is 00:55:50 big ass tight end they got that's the biggest tight end. What's that brother's name? Darnell Washington. Well, we know the Steelers have a mandate to win nine, ten games and go to the wild card round. Here in Indianapolis, the only mandate is win eight games and then everybody gets to keep their jobs. But moving on from that, you know, you mentioned the Texans and a guy that
Starting point is 00:56:13 actually can still play who just signed a contract extension. So we're not twisting in the wind about Aziz Al Shire with a big contract extension, $54 million. Neat story. You know, former UDFA, right, and kind of cashed in twice with Houston and a key player on a terrific defense. But a notable move considering that I think they'll likely again be just with the unknowns with the Colts and the Jags and the Titans still trying to kind of build things back up again.
Starting point is 00:56:40 I don't think I'm speaking too out of school to say, but Houston likely, again, the favorite in the vision making a big move. Yeah, you know, year-to-year defense's success is hard to project in the NFL, but it doesn't really take into account when you have Will Anderson to Neil Hunter and in a whole secondary that's that good on rookie contracts outside of Derek Stingley. So, yeah, they're probably going to be very good yet again on that side of the ball. Their offense, I don't know, it really comes down to their quarterback play. But to bring it back to Al-Share, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:10 I think he's kind of one of those players like, again, I always bring stuff back to hockey. But my favorite team, Tom Wilson is on my favorite team. And he has this stigma of being this very dirty hockey player that everyone around the league hates him so much. But he's actually extremely skilled, right? He scored over 30 goals the last two seasons, one of the better goal scores in the league for the way he plays the game. And I think that's kind of where we're at with Al-Sciere, where people are like this dirty player who's been suspended and has had these these issues and stuff like that. It's what like people around the league just think of him as this dirty player,
Starting point is 00:57:45 but he's probably one of the top like five to eight off ball linebackers in the league. Like he has a really good feeling coverage, really good eyes, good run defender as well. Like it's frustrating that he just commits these boneheaded penalties that that is what he's associated with around the league. But he's a really talented offball linebacker. And I think the contract was well deserved. it's kind of one of those guys where it's like you hate playing against him, but you probably take him on your team because he is that good of playing the linebacker position. So, yeah, smart of the Texans to lock him up.
Starting point is 00:58:19 I know there were some trade talks this offseason with him and other teams, but I think it was smart of the Texans to say, hey, like, this guy is a really good football player. Again, bad reputation, but really good off-ball linebacker. Yeah, I think he's pretty good, but I kind of also am of the thought that I think he makes way too many unnecessary. I don't necessarily want to call it dirty, but like the dude's done it a million times. I hate when the Colts have to go up against him because I'm like, all right, well, who's getting a headshot today? But no, I mean, he's, he is a good player. I just wish he did not, you know, I wish he did not have, have that earned stigma, I guess. Well, to me, I think this,
Starting point is 00:59:07 team plays, I think they reflect the personality of their head coach, D'Amico Ryans. I think D'Amico Ryans has went out and found some clones of himself and put on defense. And it's definitely one of those teams that you fear playing because you know they are bringing it on every play, whether it's dirty or not. If you half step a little bit, they're going to clean your clock. you know, but that's, just like the Colts have put most of their assets on offense, the Texas put their assets on defense. And look what it got them, got them to the playoffs last year. And I would say that their offense is probably, you know, B minus.
Starting point is 00:59:55 But when you got that badass defense that is, you know, getting a ball back to the offense and the offense keeps getting opportunities. Eventually, they're going to score. When I watched the Texans play the Colts in Indianapolis, the Texans didn't really do anything spectacular on offense, but because they had the ball so much, they eventually wore down the Colts defense, you know. And so when you got that defense that is just relentlessly getting after you,
Starting point is 01:00:31 you know, legally and illegally, you know, it wears on a team. It does. So I'm not mad at the Texans, but that's the way that they figured out that they can win. Yeah, I will say this real quick about the Texans, though. It's not that they put all their assets on defense because they put a lot of assets on offense as well, right? Their quarterback was a top five pick. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:54 They've invested a ton of money in the O line, including multiple top 50 picks, top 75 picks. Got one of our guys? Yeah, wide receiver. They've committed a lot of top one. 100 picks. They put a lot of effort on offense as well. It's just on defense, they don't miss with anything they put on that side of the ball. On offense, they miss a little bit. And that's kind of where it is with them. So I think that's more of the thing with the Texans is on defense, every single thing they put on their turns. It could be a fifth round pick. That guy's turning to gold.
Starting point is 01:01:25 On offense, it's not 100 picks. It's 50-50. And that's kind of the nature of that side of the all for them. But they invest a lot on both sides of the ball. It's just, God, they've had such a crazy run with drafting lately that I'm not doubting any of their draft picks ever. Yeah, they made a few picks last week that I'm just furious about because they were perfect for them. Like, Keel and Rutledge was probably a little early, but like that's, that's an absolutely perfect identity move for them. And then Kamari Ramsey and Kaden McDonald, I was like, are you kidding me right now. This defense is adding those two players, specifically those two, like, there's not a better fit in the NFL for Carmari Ramsey than Houston, I don't think. And then Katie McDonald,
Starting point is 01:02:10 the best run stuffing defensive tackle in the draft, just lands in their laps. Like, this is unbelievable. Like, the rich get richer. Yeah, glass half full. They didn't land A.J. Halsey. So, yeah, we at least have that. They don't have C.J. Allen. They don't have A.J. Halsey. That's something they don't. None of their draftees were at Rick Ross's house. So yeah, Colts are going to be just fun. Thanks so much for joining us on the latest edition of the Colts Squad Show.
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