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Episode Date: April 1, 2026

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Welcome to the Colts Squad Show. I'm your host, Derek Schultz, and I'm willing to be a replacement referee for the right price. And I'm Zach Hicks. And it's nice to have Derek back. It's just sad the reasoning why he's back for today's show. I'm Jake Arthur, and the last thing this world needs is more meetings. And I'm Alan Pink at two-time Euler, and I could never imagine being a player having 18 games in a season. rise up. It's the Colp Squad, everything Indianapolis Colts every week, covering all the big hits and game-changing plays from the Circle City, the way only the locked on podcast network can. It's time to squad up. The Colts Squadoe starts now. Welcome to the Colts Squad Show. I'm your host Derek Schultz, longtime indie sports talker and columnist for the Indianapolis Business Journal. I'm joined by

a Notre Dame legend, long time NFL running back Alan Pinkett, along with the dynamic duo, Zach's got no sleeves on today, so we are ready to rock and roll. Let's go. Locked on Colts, Jake Arthur, Zach Hicks, your first listen every day. They are here as we are fully squatted up and ready to go. Much to Jake's chagrin. Unfortunately, the NFL is in Sunny Arizona for meetings, the annual league meetings. And as always, there are some newsworthy bites from something that, Alan, you know this from when you were a player, like this wasn't a thing. I mean, I don't even know if this was a thing like 10, 12 years ago, but it's definitely a thing now where media go out and they talk to the coaches and they talk to the executives.

We'll jump into that by reacting to what Colts owner Carly Arcei Gordon had to say. A couple of things were somewhat of a rehash from January and that season ending press conference that you guys remember right in the wake of the close of the 2025. But there were some tidbits and some analogies that I actually kind of a I'm in an analogy appreciator. And I think Carly Ursay Gordon was really in her bag when it came to the analogy. We'll talk about that to lead off the show. Chris Bauer feels good.

That's a quote. Feels good about what the cults have done this off season. Do you? And by do you, I mean the other people on this show. And I guess you guys need two comments as well. We'll talk about that in segment number two. How to approach the ongoing Anthony Richardson saga? He's still here.

What is he still doing here? Will he still be here? We'll talk about all of that in segment three. And then as Alan had mentioned, I already know how Alan probably feels about this, unless you're going to add a couple more zero's on that game check, right? 18 game season, yay or nay. We'll talk about that to end the show today. But guys, let's lead it off with Carly, Ersay Gordon. And like I mentioned, Zach, like this wasn't all

new information, right? Some of this was a rehash of the 2025 season, that press conference that kind of closed things. But I did think that she had an interesting thing to say about chemistry when it came to the head coach and the quarterback. And some people took that as an Anthony Richardson's slight, which I don't think she was targeting Anthony Richardson with that comment. I think she was talking about just the Colts over the years on the quarterback carousel. But I'll read the quote and then I wanted everybody to react to it. That chemistry, this from Carly Ursaid Gordon, that a quarterback needs to have with their head coach. I don't want to name any names.

There are situations where your head coach doesn't believe in your quarterback and you're kind of screwed. I think Shane and Daniel really align. And I think that's kind of the crux of we were all on the same page here. why it was so important for the Colts to bring back Daniel Jones is because they believe in Daniel Jones. And we know, even in the short Shane Steichen era, they have not always had quarterbacks that they believe in that they've tried it out there to start games for them. Yeah, no, for sure. And I didn't take that quote as being something that is, you know, speaking poorly about someone else. It was more of bringing up Daniel Jones in this situation here in Indianapolis.

And I would say this as someone who's covered the Colts and who's also studied a lot of Shane Steikin's career. He's been able to get the best out of a lot of quarterbacks in this league from fringe backup quarterbacks in Indy to really good young quarterbacks in Jalen Hertz and Justin Herbert in his previous stops. I would say Daniel Jones probably ran his offense better than any other quarterback has in his time calling plays in the NFL. Herbert has always kind of been very up and down throughout his career and like a lot of really great moments. but the sustainability and the success rate on offense has never really been at that high level like it was with the Colts last year. And then with Jalen Hertz, I think Hertz had a fantastic year under Shane Steichen, but they were kind of mastering the gimmick that was the RPO for that couple years stretch where the RPO was actually allowed in the NFL. Now with it no longer allowed in the NFL, I don't know how well that

meshing would have done. But with Jones, what we kind of saw is just this perfect quarterback for what Shane Steichen wanted, a quarterback who could operate well on play action, a quarterback. who could get through his reeds, a quarterback who could make those extra plays on third and fourth down when they needed it with his legs and with his arm. And it was a perfect meshing last season. So I completely agree with the Colts running this back. And I love the way they protected themselves with it being a two-year contract as well. So we've talked about this a lot, this offseason.

I really love what they did with that contract and getting him back. And I agree. And I think my big takeaway from that quote with Carly is not really the young quarterback aspect of but more so just the endorsement of Jones and Stuyken. I mean, we knew the Colts plans coming into the offseason, and they were able to get it done. And I agree. Like, it was good enough last year.

I mean, it was the best quarterback play we had seen from a Colt quarterback, arguably since Andrew Luck, I mean, at least since Philip Rivers in 2020. So it's easy to say you want to get that back out there because it was that good. I mean, even in almost every advanced metric, Daniel Jones finished as the top 10, top five quarterback in some of the them, even with a couple of those games with a broken leg towards the end of it there last year. So it makes a lot of sense. I understand where Carla's coming from.

And while I still would have been on the train of, you know, firing Chris Ballard at the end of the season because it had just been too long and starting over, I also understand the aspect of they did have a good thing going that seemed like they finally found their quarterback. Let's see if this is actually the thing. And then we'll go from there if it's not. Yeah, I think if you don't have a quarterback. and obviously we know the Colts were on the quarterback carousel for X amount of years.

I mean, even when Andrew Luck, his last few years, they were having issues because he was hurting off the field. And the whole thing was just a mess. Everyone knows when your quarterback situation is unsettled, it's almost like you can't proceed with anything else until you know that is taken care of. And they had at least a good enough sample size last year of clear symmetry between Daniel Jones and Shane Steichen. Like Zach said, all the details about the perfect ways in which Jones executed what Shane Steichen likes most and what are like the biggest staples in what he would ideally like to have his offense be. Like you just had to run it back with that. And there was no other way they could go back to the drawing board. And Shane requires a very specific type of quarterback.

I think they've tooled with a few different type of guys before. but at the end of the day, Shane needs a fellow football nerd that he could text with at two in the morning about protection schemes. That is what Shane needs, and that's what Daniel Jones is. And as much as it's about Daniel, like, we have seen even before the Shane Stuyken era, we've seen the Colts and their head coach have to hide their quarterback. Like at a certain point, Frank Reich basically lost trust in what he would be able to do with like Carson Wentz. we saw all the panic moves of 2022 with the quarterback situation and the put them in, take him out all that, like all that stuff.

Like the Anthony Richardson stuff. And they're just not developing at the rate they wanted to and injuries derailing things. Like we've seen what turmoil looks like between head coach and quarterback and all that. And this was the best that relationship has looked since 2018 with Frank Reich and Andrew Luck. So I'm with Carly. If you see that much of a ray of sunlight in that relationship, you've got to capitalize on it. And you just ride that until the wheels fall off. I mean, maybe the wheels do fall off here.

But I think we saw enough of it last year where you have to continue down that path. Well, let me just start off by saying, listening to Carly is so refreshing. And she talks about the fact that she feels like she has like a fifth grade education when it comes to knowledge of football compared to Shane Steichen and Chris Ballard. But when you listen to her talk, you know, that's a fifth grader who's going to be a valedictorian of a senior class. You know, she knows what she's talking about. And, you know, her being on the sidelines and taking notes and paying attention, that's not for show. And I learned that she's been doing that for a while now.

So it was just refreshing to hear from her because she adds a perspective that you don't hear from a lot of other owners. And I know she's not the only female owner. I mean, my old team, the Oilers, Amy Adam Strunk, is the owner there. And sometimes, you know, you've got to be twice as good sometimes to be looked at favorably. I think that's the position that, you know, a female as an owner probably feels like inside because you've got all this old club of, you know, old white men just, you know, thinking that they know what they're doing and how to run it and they don't need a woman in there.

So I know that I think she relishes the opportunity to manage and run the team her way. But she's been paying attention over the years to where this isn't all new to her. And I say all that to say, she was just telling the truth when she noticed that there may have been not the relationship. you needed where the coach believes in the quarterback. And look, we all know when Anthony Richardson missed on scat protection and missed that blitz and got his finger all messed up, Stuyken was done with him. You know, so he was done. And so she also talked about how, you know, Shane Stuyken is always thinking about

football 24-7 and thinking about tweaking this and tweaking that and and she really likes that about him and so to be able to have a quarterback that has that same type of personality trait you know like like you said uh jake you know call up at two in the morning and say hey i noticed this about your footwork or i notice this about how about if we try this if they come with three guys on the blind side. Why don't we run this? You know, that type of, that type of talk, you know, she, she sees that Shane Steakin is excited. And look, we know on any level of football, you either have that guy at quarterback or you don't have that guy at quarterback. And when you have that guy, I don't care if he's 80%. You're going to try and roll with him because at

he can still make that offense go. So I had no problem with what she said in terms of a relationship. Maybe it was just overall thinking or maybe it was specific. But to me, she was just speaking the truth. And that's another thing I like about Carla. She does tell the truth. Yeah, one thing I want to add on to what Jake said about the texting in the middle of the night about football and stuff. A lot of the comments are saying that Shane is looking for a buddy, a quarterback instead of a good player.

That's not. Jake Morso meant that Shane and Sikin is looking for an obsessive player at that position. A player who is obsessed with football in terms of getting better, understanding their mistakes, and improving. And they saw that immediately when Jones came in here. And again, we're not here to point fingers, but there was another quarterback here who's still currently here, who won't be here by the time the season starts, who simply wasn't showing that in his couple seasons before Jones got here. I mean, again, we don't have the official reports and all that, but I think we can read between the lines here that that's not what was happening when it comes to Anthony Richardson at quarterback. So when Jones came in here, they got what they wanted in terms of that obsessive personality. And one thing with Jones was so much of the Colts offense this past season.

And honestly, since Shane Steichen has been here, has been, we are going to give you every bit of information you possibly need before the snap with motion, with alignments, with matching half-field reads on top of each other back to back, and you're going to have answers pre-snap. It's on you to diagnose what the answers are to what we are giving you. And we saw with Jones last year when he was healthy, he was able to find those answers with the pre-snap motion, with a lot of the alignments of the culture doing. He was able to find those answers where other quarterbacks in Stuyken's system

simply weren't doing that. So again, we can criticize Jones all we want, but he was able to actually take like the cheat sheet that Steichen was giving him pre-snap and execute it better than any quarterback has in Indy since Philip Rivers and arguably since Andrew Luck. So again, you can have all your complaints you want, but it's not that Joan, it's not that Shane Steakin wanted some buddy at quarterback.

He wants a guy who can apply and run his offense. And last year they were, I mean, they were a top 10 offense by the end of the season with Philip Rivers starting half the seat or quarter of the season. Like they were a good offense last year. I mean, it's just, it's the nature of the position. They found a guy who worked for them, and they're going to try to run it back, and I understand it.

Two other comments from Mercy Gordon. You know, I mentioned rehashing the 2025 season. That's sort of what she did. Quote, it felt like a movie where we pressed pause, turned it on, watched something that was really horrible. I want to press play and watch the end of this really amazing movie because the ending, I think, is going to be amazing. And that's, you know, kind of what we've talked about, right?

The reason for retaining Ballard and Stuyken is because she really, and the Colts Brass really believed that the first half Colts of last year were the real Colts and not the second half Colts. But I did find this interesting. 2026, you know, just kind of looking forward for Mercee Gordon. Quote, every year we fall short. It breaks my heart because they only have so long to do this. She's talking about the players and, you know, the coaches, GMs, the whole thing. Because of the roads we've sort of been on, we were going to empty the tank.

We're going to go balls to the wall, which I joked with you guys offline. I don't think I've said that since I was in college. And I think sometimes feeling that. helps everyone raise the water line. I do think, Jake, that that's a little kind of, I don't know if Easter egg is the right word, but raising the water line to me is an acknowledgement that, you know, the Colts need to kind of go up from this 8998 vision. And maybe some people in the comments are going to say, well, duh, but to hear her

kind of say that, I think is meaningful, considering that the Colts actions have kind of indicated that maybe that they're okay with that. But that kind of goes to the sense of urgency and the heightened sense of urgency in some of the comments that she made earlier in January. Yeah, I feel like we've gotten a pretty consistent, but where the kind of disconnect is is we've gotten the consistent message from her about progression and like things need to change and there's like a certain standard that's not being met. But then you see the Colts actions and like I don't want to make it seem like they've been

sitting on their thumbs. Like since the season ended, they've brought in like almost 20 new guys. but like there's still such large critical areas that haven't been upgraded that leave us all asking like are they even are they any better than they were when the season ended so I get her messaging where she is you know she's saying all all that line you know the raise the water line the sense of urgency is still there yes I just don't think we've all seen it and I know like they struck out on Trey Hendrickson and if if they wind up getting Trey Hendrickson, maybe people feel a little bit differently because you have that big answer at

Eddrusher and you have this marquee defender that you brought in the expensive high price guy. But now it's that that's been weeks now. And everyone's still wondering, okay, well, that fell through, but like what else is going to happen? Like, JT. To a Maloowow is not Trey Hendrickson. You know, Arden Key is not Trey Hendrickson. Like this big thing fell through that was going to probably be a big. big factor in wins and losses for you this year, you got to keep trying something. And again, Chris Ballard is always calm. You know, he's always cool as a cucumber. Like, he says we still got

time. You know, there's still time to do this and that, which is true. But as we all know, like relying on draft picks, especially when you don't have a first round draft pick to be instant impact guys, like you can't replace what Trey Hendrickson would have given you, for example, with a second round edge rusher. And Zach and I have discussed ad nauseum, the ones that we think are the best and would be the most instant impact. They're not going to give you that.

So you do still have to go out and make some moves. They have about $26.5 million in cap space still to fiddle with. They have still some tradable assets. They have some things they can do to create more cap room still. So I think everyone's just kind of sitting here waiting because it's been a few weeks since anything like impactful has happened. Um, but yeah, I, I do think from Carly, even internally, the message is still being projected the same that like expectations are high. Like I'm telling you what my expectations are, but it's up to you to meet that and like put action to it now if you're Chris Ballard.

Uh, but yeah, I, I think the Colts are getting one message from ownership and maybe questioning if they're seeing that come to life with the personnel side. Hold that thought because Chris Bauer talked about the defensive end room in Phoenix. In fact, he talked about the roster in general. He feels good about what the Colts have done so far this off season. Do you? We'll discuss when the squad show returns next. This portion of the Colts Squad Show brought you by Robin Hood. What if sports were traded like markets?

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Jake Arthur is here. I'm Derek Schultz. Appreciate you being here as well hanging with us as we're talking the league owners meetings in Phoenix and other NFL news here on our Tuesday edition of the Colts Squad show. So Jake had sort of alluded to what Chris Bauer, had to say about the defensive end room. And he had some comments about the offseason in general, but let's kind of stick with that defensive line grouping. Because, you know, as Jacob mentioned, you know,

the Trey Hendrickson deal didn't end up working out. They added a couple of other players. And Bauer talked about those, this from Chris, quote, Key, we played against him a bunch. And Shane said he was disruptive, always the guy that they had a game plan against. Clemens is just tough, tough, hard playing, kind of the same role as what Paiquan had. So he's talking about some of the depth pieces that are on there.

But then overall as the defensive line group, as a group right now, I feel pretty good about it. Does that mean we won't add? No, we've got time. There's some free agency stuff still left. We'll see if we do anything else, the draft, and then the end of summer and into training camp. Look, we would love to have a 20-sac guy on the team.

Absolutely. I think every team would sign up for that. Yeah, but they don't have that. I need to talk about lots of taking the next step as well, Zach. You know, eight, eight, nine sacks is not that. far from 14, 15 sacks if we can get him to finish. And, you know, I'm paraphrasing a bit, but he said something about how they feel like the coaching staff can get

Latu over the hump. And I think really, am I right in saying, like, that's sort of the determining factor of all this, because let's face it, I don't care if Shane Stuyken said that they had the game plan for Arden Key, if this thing's going to work next year, it's going to be because LATU kind of takes that next step and the ripple effects of that kind of trickle down to the rest of the defensive end room. Yeah, that would have been the case with or without signing Trey Hendrickson

because look, everyone can be pumped about Terry Hendrickson if they would have landed him, but he's a 30-something-year-old pass rusher who played seven games last year. So the Colts might have just dodged a bullet by not having another 30-plus-year-old defender who might not play any games next season because everybody, everybody who was 30-plus on that defense got hurt last season. So, yes, is their defensive line going to get much better going into next season compared to what it was last year? No, it's just not going to, there's just no avenue now.

the rest of the way to drastically improve what the defensive line was last year. But are there still avenues to be a better defensive line than what they were last season? Yeah, absolutely. I would argue they've already upgraded two of the three departures on the defensive line because I think Clemens is better than Taekwon Lewis. I mean, Lewis, I don't even know if he's going to play in the NFL next season because he was just not an NFL caliber player last season. And then in terms of Sanson, Ebukom, he just could barely move last year

because he was coming off that Achilles injury where Arden Key is a fine rotational edge rusher. The key is what is going to be this next move for the starter? And they still have plenty of avenues. There's no rush right now because there's still Joey Bosa out there. They're still Judevian Clowny out there. And maybe there's a guy at 47 that they really, really like and really, really want. So they could totally take a guy still on day two. But if they don't fall in love with these players, they have that fallback option of a Clownie or a Bosa.

And look, Clowny and Bosts are not saving your franchise here. But are they better than what Quitty Pay gave them last year? Probably, probably. So then you're looking at an overall upgrade on the defensive line without it being a massive upgrade. So is that enough? I don't know. Still when it comes to defense,

a lot of their production and their success on that side of the ball is going to come down to the high paid players actually producing in DeFords Buckner, Mooney Ward, Sauce Gardner, Cameron Bynum, and then a lot too being that high. high value pick a player as well. So ultimately it's going to come down to those guys stepping up. If they don't, then the Colts defense never had a chance in general. So, yeah, they, yes, they swung and missed on their big upgrade on the defensive line,

but overall, I still think there's a very easy path to having an upgrade across the board on the defensive line, barring DeForest Buckner's health, which I think is going to be one of the biggest conversation points next season. But we'll see. Again, if there's an edge rusher they absolutely love there at 47, they'll take their swing, If not, they can fall back on a clownie, and then you've upgraded all three of your departures at defensive end, albeit not in a huge way, but you certainly upgraded going into next season. I'll give it to you, Jake.

Yeah, I mean, it's- Sorry, I have my microphone muted. I was on top of your Jake, too. No, I mean, I don't think it is a significant leap to get those areas upgraded. Obviously, key over Ebbecom, like a 30-plus-year-old guy, you know, another year removed from the Achilles, and then Clemens over Taekwon. those are upgrades for certain it's just i i don't i don't know it's just so modest like i don't know i think i just would have really gone heavy at this at this defensive line issue we've just

seen like all the good teams in the nfl all the successful teams in the nfl have just had like such persistent harassing pass rushes and it just seems like the colts are fine with skating by with the bare minimum upgrades if that's what they wind up doing now like circumstances dictate you know what happens like you can go for big swings and they just don't work like i'm sure hendrickson wasn't the only thing they attempted and that's not like hendrickson was going to save the world or anything um i just like i just want to see a splash you know what i mean like you they're they've talked the talk but they haven't really walked the walk so far like they've made such modest upgrades so far in certain areas.

But again, there's some where you still have concerns. Like receiver doesn't look like a great group that can trot out there right now, especially with Jones coming back under his circumstances. We've talked about Edge. We've talked about linebacker. Oh, line depth is a bit of a concern as well. So it's just, I don't know, it would be nice at this point of the off season to not have so many areas where you're like,

I don't know if they should enter this season like this. Yeah. No, I agree with you overall. My slight pushback when it comes to defensive line, though, is just, I think right now we're just seeing the nature of what happens when you miss on the defensive line draft picks. Because you can't really just buy a pass rush. You have to draft a pass rush. Like you can buy aspects of a pass rush. Like you could buy a DeFords Buckner by trading picks to get him and paying a big contract.

You can, you know, buy certain pieces. But in terms of the whole pass rush, you got to. you got to draft and develop. And that's just, it's like we're reaping the, what happens when you miss on your quitty pays and your dio dang bows and, and all these other players, JT2 and Malo,

I don't, I wouldn't say he's a miss yet, but, you know, we're talking about him as a hit currently. Um, so it's just like when you look at Seattle, when you look at Philly,

when you look at Houston, like sure, they bought like a piece or two here and there, but they mostly drafted those past rushes. You can buy a secondary. You can buy a linebacker. It is hard. to buy a pass rush because usually if a pass rush is hit in the market, there's some defectiveness

with them. And I'll say this, that I have been happy with the depth that they have supplied that defensive line with. A lot of guys there, you know, that can, in veterans, I like the fact that they got a lot of veterans. I think that they, you know, are hoping that JTT, you know, are hoping that JTT, you know, that's, you know, can make a splash. But it seems like the edge

is going to be done by committee. And you can always count on Chris Ballard to say something nice about all his players. You know, so he's still talking nice about Anthony Richardson, you know, talking about how, I loved a guy, you know, type of attitude. but I think it's nice. I don't think they're done.

You guys don't think that they're done yet on the D line. But I think all this comes down to, like I said, they're going to do it by committee and they hope JTT can somehow when his second year flourish and give them something. But you mentioned the cap space. And, you know, to me, the Colts have decided where they are really going to do their investing is going to be on offense and try to maintain it on defense.

A couple of other things that Bauer had to say besides in the defensive line room, just on the offseason in general, he told our friend James Boyd at the athletic quote, we feel good about what we've done and look quarterback is such a big part of this and getting consistent functional quarterback play definitely allows me to sleep at night, which has not always been the case. we got to play before I can tell you if we're better or not. I mean, that's kind of a cop-out answer, right?

You know, asked me in September, right? Okay, certainly you will be asked that later on in the season. But Jake, it kind of goes back to what you said as far as like we, and we've been critical, right? And you guys have been on the daily show about some of these moves, or you've praised some of the moves like these, these little sort of piecemeal depth type moves. But I think really if you're focused on,

did Chris Bauer check the boxes, the big ones of the offseason, I think a lot of us would agree, yes, simply because they brought back Pearson Jones. And he's talking about the quarterback play in this quote, but I think he's also mentioned the fact how important it was to bring back Alec Pierce as well. Yeah, I do think, though, like,

you couldn't have gone forward in the off season without those two massive boxes being checked. Like, those were clearly the two biggest things. And I do commend them for getting that done. I mean, it was the risky path. all kind of talked about that as well. Like we were worried that maybe both weren't coming back. But at the same time, you know, that that job is done, mission complete.

You know, that's, that is running it back if like that was your, your whole big thing. So, Zach and I have kind of talked about casting a wide net, too, of like a bunch of modest contracts, which they've kind of done. But you're not quite, you haven't quite hit the mark yet. again, like at receiver, you know, Michael Pittman Jr. out, A.D. Mitchell out. Nick Westbrook Akeena is a very kind of niche player, you know. I was actually talking to the host of Locked on Titans today about Nick Westbrook, Akina. And you're really getting a guy there who, you know, is a big play threat occasionally on offense, but overall is like a special team or in a gunner. So the Colts more so replaced Tyler Goodson with Nick Westbrook-A-Kina than they did Michael Pittman. You know, so right now they're still trying to piecemeal receiver together and rely on Ashton Dool and take a step up.

Josh Downs, Tyler Warren. So like you still need another weapon there. Receivers, another position we've talked about that isn't necessarily an instant splash hit in the draft. Like those guys take a little bit to develop. Edge, we obviously talked about it, nauseam. I will scream about linebacker until something is finally done about. I'm sure everyone loves hearing me talk about that. But that one, I mean, I'm sure will happen in the draft.

And you got Akeem Davis Gator. I like that. It's just it's tough with there being 23, 24 days left until the draft being patient because there are just things at play here that they're intentionally going slow about it. Like the comp pick formula thing I think is real because, if you get like unrestricted free agents who entered free agency naturally by their contracts expiring they're going to count against the formula versus guys who were their contracts were terminated by their clubs they don't count trades don't count so like they're they're just

kind of being picky and choosy about players they can't acquire right now before the draft and then so that's obviously making it a little slower um but you know that's it's the slow period and inaction drives us a little crazy, doesn't it? I know I can be prone to definitely saying, what the hell are we doing here sometimes? But, you know, we just got to hang on tight for these next three and a half weeks. Yeah, real quick, I've been very positive, I guess, on Ballard this whole episode. So I'll throw in one quick complaint.

I'm so tired of him bringing up day three guys who missed their rookie season to fill significant roles on their team. It happened to, he brought up Woler again. He brought up Jalen Carlyze again. And look, man, I'm fine with still thinking Woller can be something. Let's stop touting a guy who missed his entire rookie year when he was a seventh round pick. If he was that great, if you thought he was that awesome, you would have taken him in round six or five or four. It's not a new thing either because Hunter Woller just became the new Daniel Scott.

Right, right. Like, you know, and then keep bringing up Carlis. I feel like I'm going crazy here. Like if Carlis is going to be their answer, could be their answer at linebackers. Paris Campbell going to be their answer at wide receiver. is, you know, Daniel Scott, their answer at safety. Like, again, relying on guys who miss multiple seasons. Dude, Jolani Wood's going to come out of the blue and be their starting tight net.

Like, relying on these young players who keep missing entire seasons to potentially start because you thought highly of them two to three years ago, it just doesn't do it for me, man. At some point, especially with a day three, like, Carlis was a fifth round pick. Like, why so much loyalty to a fifth round pick? Who has missed a season and a half? season in three-fourths basically at this point. Like, he's barely played. Like, why is his fifth round pick in so much?

By not playing either. Right. Why is his fifth round pick getting brought up so much into his third season? But then again, why is Daniel Scott still the team, I guess? I guess that's the whole thing with Chris Bowler. So that's my big complaint, I guess. He keeps bringing up these guys who, like, realistically, I'm not saying you completely move on, but they're more like scratch-off tickets than anything else right now.

If you hit the lottery on a scratch-off ticket, cool. But, like, you can't. expect that to hit the lot, hit the, the jump, the big win or whatever. Like, come on. I don't know if any decision maker in the NFL loves players recovering from injury as much as Frank Bauer loves players recovery. He just loves them. He loves rehabbing players. When the Colt Squad Show returns, we'll tell you why we don't buy that there's a scenario that Anthony Richardson returns to the team in 2026. Plenty more to come next. Don't go anywhere. And we're back on the locked on Colt Squad show. Alan Pinkett, Jake Arthur,

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to think you do on this show too. So the Anthony Richardson situation is ongoing. Obviously, he has not been traded yet. We know that his camp asked for that, that the Colts were looking around for that. That topic was broached in Arizona once again. This from Carly Ursa, Gordon, quote, I'm proud of the way Anthony's handled himself. He's so immensely talented.

I feel the world of his oyster. He totally has an opportunity to have a career in the NFL if he wants to. I just feel bad that he's gotten the short end of the stick with the injuries. Okay, great. Bowerd on Richardson. We'll see how it works out over time. We've had some discussions with teams when nothing's come to fruition at this point. I'm proud of his development, his growth.

He's had some bad freaking luck. God, I can hear that in his like southern drawl accent. We've seen it in this league. Sometimes things don't work out one place. They become good at the next. we'll see here over the next month how that ends up working out with Anthony. So some of the same supportive stuff.

And the Colts are always good about this. And they support their guys. And I think that that's actually a compliment for how they run their business. But this was the one that got some newsworthiness. Bowered on if there's a scenario where Richardson returns. Quote, there's definitely a scenario there. He's a good dude.

He's talented. I mean, I still want good for Anthony. I still think he's got a lot in him. He's had some freaking bad. There's the freaking again. that's some freaking bad luck. But I still think Anthony has a lot of abilities maturing and growing. But Zach, like, you know, I think back to the wire, right?

The game is the game, right? You know, when you're trying to, we all know what this is. Anthony wants out. The Colts won him out. They're going to do the best that they can to help him out. And I don't think there's any animosity there, but it's a business. And the game is the game. And you're not going to, you know, if I'm at the flea market and I've got this antique Yankees

pen, you know, and somebody wants it, I'm not going to be like, yeah, this is a piece of junk. I'm going to be like, this is a beautiful antique Yankees pen that you definitely want to play a top. Like, you're going to try to sell it. And I think that the cult saying these things are just them continuing to sort of sell Anthony Richardson to other teams because I really, I don't buy that there's a scenario where he's back in 2020. Yeah, it's like having a yard sale and you put like a $10 thing on it and someone comes up

and offers you $5 for it. You're like, well, I could just keep this. Like I'm perfectly fine keeping this. Like you at least got to give me $7 if I'm going to give this up. It's kind of what it is. You know, like, oh, I'm perfectly fine keeping this one. Like, I don't want to put this back in my house. Like, I've already committed to not having this take up space in my house.

I know this is kind of like a very obtuse analogy here, but like Derek Seedy Loz analogies. I have to bring out analogies, I guess. But it's kind of what it is right now where it's the negotiating game. It's very much the, I wish I could think of a recent like Indianapolis. centered version of this, but you guys only have two sports teams. Was there a Pacer's players that we traded that we didn't know? Like, Sabonis was going to be here or something until we got the Halibur and all, I don't know. I don't know a perfect other sport comparison here in Indy, but it happens all the time in sports,

right, where you say like this guy's going to be on our team for sure or, oh, there's an opportunity to certainly keep him for sure. But it's part of the conversation. It's what he tells these other GMs on the phone as well when they're offering a seventh round pick swap form or something, you know, like come. on you like I can just keep him he's still young he's still developing he's got the talent he's just been injured like it's part of the game so I fully don't expect him uh to be on the Colts and I think the Colts know too that like once once one of these really bad teams misses out on on Tiny

Ty Simpson as QB2 in this draft there's nothing intriguing about this court I mean look even Simpson's not intriguing in this quarterback class like you'll get a team that will be like you know what it's either Richardson, who's still younger than Garrett Nussmeyer, and Nussmeier barely has an arm left anymore from all his injuries. I can get Richardson for like a six, where I have to take Nussmire and like the fourth because he's a rookie. I'd rather do that. So I expect him to get traded at some point.

We'll see what it ultimately ends up being, but I don't expect him to be on the Colts next season. Yeah, I don't, like I think if a good offer would have materialized by now, they would have done it. But again, teams will maybe let their guard down a little more over these next few weeks closer to the draft. And again, Ty Simpson can go all the hype he wants. It doesn't change what the tape says and what he is as a prospect, you know. I think a lot of teams know that.

Like some of them are delusional and try to make themselves think that some quarterback prospects are better than they are. But really, this is like kind of a one horse race when it comes. to going and finding a starter in this draft. And the Raiders have that on lock with the first pick. So I do think there's probably still a very shallow NFL veteran quarterback pool available. And Anthony's probably the most intriguing of the bunch, at least. Like luckily we've kind of hit this period of the NFL era where the retread quarterback is still in vogue. Like I can change him, I can fix him, which, you know, there might be, you know,

other team out there. You know, the Packers keep being brought up. That might be a nice little rehab for Anthony to, like, get him re-centered and just build him back up. So I think they probably need more teams than just, like, the Packers to kind of enter the fray. Otherwise, you get into when the Colts were, like, the only team really negotiating with the Eagles for Carson Wentz back then. So I do think Chris would like to avoid getting fleeced on too many trades.

I think he knows that he did not get enough in the Michael Pittman trade. And I think he even mentioned that too. He's like, I don't want to do a seventh and Anthony for a six. I don't want to make that kind of trade again. And again, it's a quarterback that was a top five pick who is still on the rookie deal. So it's like you hope he doesn't want to make the trade that he did. I'm so sorry. I'm so mad about that.

Yeah. But that's another part of it. Like I think ultimately a deal will get done. because historically when, when players have asked for trades, he's made it happen or he's given them their release. Like he has done that. You know,

he traded Naheem Hines, Stefan Gilmore, um, who helped Pittman. Like, Pittman was, that was all kind of a mutual thing and like, Zaire,

like when it's put out there that a trade might happen and like just listening to Chris's language and the way he phrased all those things, I do think something gets done. Cause it's like the same way he talks. about Zaire and talked about Pittman. So I think something will get done. There's just not, it's not at a fever pitch yet. It's not close enough to the draft. I think we'll get there. I just probably think the offers haven't been enticing enough yet. I think there's probably been some conditional offers where they'd have to defer to the 2027 draft to see how it works out

with Anthony's playing time and all that stuff. And I don't think they want that. I think they want the immediate draft capital for it. But ultimately, I do think something gets done. I mean, worst case scenario, he does stay on the roster for 2026 and gets traded by the deadline. But I don't feel like you see quarterbacks get moved at the deadline much because it's a quarterback. Like, that's almost counterproductive at that point, especially a guy like Richardson, you're

going to throw him into a new system midseason and hope you get something out of it, probably not. I think that's probably the carrot. He's dangling, though. is saying like I'll take this end of the season. You can still trade him, but I'll take it into the season. But ultimately, I do think something gets done before the draft. I think the deadline is the end of the draft, by the way.

I'm just going to throw that in that real quick. Yeah, I think so too. But Jake, that scenario you talk about actually happened my rookie year because the Oilers drafted Jim Everett. And he didn't sign. and it wasn't until the trade deadline that the lever was pulled, and he went to the Rams. And we were going to get a couple people from the Rams.

But to go back to your Yankee pen example, the only problem with that Yankee pen is you're selling to a bunch of Red Sox fans. And I say that because does anybody in the league foresee, Anthony Richardson as a starter next year. And that probably has a lot to do with why he hadn't been traded yet. Because in a perfect world, you want him to get somewhere, or I'm sure he wants to be somewhere where he can get into the new offense as soon as possible, you know, to learn the new language in the terminology, to even have a chance at being a starter.

And I don't know what team is looking at him like that. I think most teams are looking at him as a backup. So they got plenty of time to wait. And because of that, it brings down his value. But I think it would behoove both parties, both the Colts management and the AR team to try and get something done as soon as possible so that it begins. Because it will become a distraction, you know, because there will be people there constantly asking. And he knows he's not going to be the guy when he comes back.

And all it's going to do is piss him off more sitting in camp, you know, watching Daniel Jones get all the praise and the glory with a bum Achilles tendon. You know, so I think something will be done. I think what's going to probably end up happening. And you mentioned that Jake is they're just going to have to bite the bullet and you get a sixth or seventh rounder. And they might not be able to get one until the 27 draft. You know, but that's, you know, you swing big and sometimes you're going to miss big. And that's essentially what happened, right? even though obviously the person that swung and missed is still in the battered box to take on some more pitches.

We'll see how that ends up going. 18 games for the NFL regular season. That may be somewhat off into the future, but it was a current topic in Phoenix, and it's going to be a current topic on this show when we return next. Welcome back for a final time to the Locked on Colts Squad show Tuesday edition. Appreciate you being here alongside former NFL or a nerd. our name legend Alan Pinkett and the locked on Colts duo that you all know and love Jake Arthur and Zach Hicks.

I'm Derek Schultz. I don't know if you know or love me, but thanks for being here anyway. This is nothing new, right? The 18 game regular season has been something that has been a topic that has popped up every once in a while. But as far as the league meetings go in Arizona, it's been a hot topic. And I thought it was particularly of interest here because of what I read on it, a lot of people quoted Carly Bursay Gordon because she was.

outspoken about the fact that she wants the 18 game regular season. This from the Colts owner, quote, if we can make it work, I do think it would be good. I don't think that we can get rid of the preseason because of the development of our team, but I do think that as long as the players want it, which I think they would, it would mean more revenue. I think it's ultimately a better product. I think it's reasonable. I think it's something that we should work towards.

Surprisingly, the owners were a little bit mixed on this, at least publicly, which I thought that all of them would be on board for the 18 game season. Now, there is a process here that has to be followed. They would have to go to the union and negotiate that and reopen the CBA and all of those things to make this happen. But, you know, it felt for a while. I remember when the talk was going from 16 to 17, which feels like forever ago now, that that was sort of a fait accompli. What do you think about 18 games, Zach? Just your overall feelings on it and are we inevitably heading for 18 games in the NFL?

Yeah, I hate the 17 games. I don't like 17 games, especially with one by week. Honestly, I think one by week with 16 games is kind of stupid in a sport that's as physical as football is. Like, get these guys to tie some extra time in there, like some extra buy weeks. But now, I mean, yeah, if I want to go to 18, you have to at least guarantee a second buy in there. I think it would be absolutely uncertain. We're looking at how some of these teams are finishing the season with half their roster on injured reserve. I mean, you're just decimating these teams.

and you're adding so much wear and tear to these players. And then also the stats nerd in me. I just, I hate the historical, like, stats aspect of it, where it's like, I have to compare what guys were doing in the 80s and 16 games to what these guys are doing.

I mean, heck, you have to compare what you're doing back in the, what, 60s and 70s and 14 games. So what these guys are doing in 18 games. Like, oh, of course this guy's breaking,

you know, OJ Simpson records and Jim Brown records, because they get double the games. that basically that these guys are getting. And on top of that, like, like Jokes says in the comments here, too, is like we're getting Wednesday night football games now as well. Like, are we trying to hurt these players? Like, is the goal right now just injure players?

Like, are we even, like, I know we're trying to make money here. I think the only way I'd be down with an 18 game season, and I think Joe Burrow was actually kind of on track with it. But I do think that having multiple buy weeks throughout the season, they have to move off of their early. early February Super Bowl window, I think, as well, and just space out the season a bit more. Let these players, like, rest a little bit so they can finish seasons here. And I think Bro even mentioned putting the Pro Bowl, like, at the, like, three-fourth mark of

the season or halfway mark of the season. Like, the NFL is the only major sports league that has their Pro Bowl at the end of the year, where everybody gets that break in the middle of the season to rest and relax during the Pro Bowl games or the All-Star games, where the NFL, they just keep chugging along, chugging through it all. So I do think there needs to be more by larger rosters as well. I know that's not going to help with some of the issues at depth of some of these positions. Like you're not fixing O-line depth around the league by adding larger rosters. But if you're going to put these players up there on Tuesday nights and Wednesday nights

and have them fly all the way to Brazil for their 18 game season, you should probably have more players on the roster. So you can actually survive a season. So look, I hate it. I really hate all. I hate the 17 games still. I'm not a fan of 18 whatsoever, but in a world that's run by gambling companies and money,

that's part of what they need right now is more games to bet on and more games to throw out there. So it is what it is, but I'm not a fan whatsoever of it. And I thought it was weird that Carly mentioned that the players want this, and I think they would be. Alan, would the players want this, you think, another more games? Hell no.

And the only thing the owners can offer is just a little more money. Right. But it's not really worth it. It's not worth it because I think an 18-game season ultimately shortens your career. And right now the average career is what? Still three and a half years? It'll move to three games because 18 games in a year

plus what, two or three preseason games? games, and I know a lot of players, starters aren't playing in the preseason games. But to me, it's a ploy to shorten the career, create more turnover so you can always have younger guys coming in, and that will save money for the owners. Yeah, we'll promise you more money and salary, but you won't get to it because you won't be here long enough to get the damn salary. You know, so I, I don't like it. Zach, you also touched on the fact that every single record will be broken because

of the 18 game season. And, you know, some of the, I know records are made to be broken, you know, but it's just, to me, slamming the door on what happened in the past, because there were some great performances over a 14-game season or over a 16-game season that will be negated because of the longer season. And I just, you already talked about it. By the time you get to the end of the year, you know, you got guys that, you know, barely made the team that are starting at the end of season because, or they look like

a mass unit because, you know, it's a physical game. You know, so 18 games makes no sense to me. I understand why the NFL would want it because with football, you cannot dilute it. You know, just like college football, you know, I remember there was a time where why do we even put our team on TV? I make more money but people coming to the stadium. Well, that mess doesn't happen anymore. You know, they cannot put enough football on TV because people love to consume. it. And yeah, the players may get a little bit more money. How much more money do you think the NFL is

going to make with one more regular season game? I mean, it's multi-millions that they will make. You know, so hell yeah, they would love the 18 games because they make more money. So I'm firmly against it from a player's perspective because I'll say it one more time, I think it will shorten a lot of guys' careers. Yeah, my big counter for the NFLPA would say lessen the requirement to retire with benefits and maybe we'll talk

18 games, which the NFL would no chance ever engage with. They want you to have to accrue what, four plus games played over the course of four seasons. Yes. To retire with benefits. And it's going to be so much easier to break these players down now with the, or

just to cycle in more like bottom of the roster guys. If we have larger rosters and stuff, we'll just cut guys throughout the week and all that. But yeah, my big pushback would be double the minimum salary if you want to do this then, because you're going to make so much more money. Double the minimum salary, you know, make the minimum player make over $2 million instead of one. And also make it easier to retire with benefits. And then we'll talk 18 games.

But I mean, with who's running the NFLPA with his new reelection, I don't anticipate that coming to fruition. So we'll see. But, yeah, I mean, Jake, I'll let you talk here. Me and Alan are obviously our very pro player with this stuff. We get frustrated with it. Yeah.

I mean, the only anti-player sentiment I've got here, Zach, is I think it's probably okay if we scrub OJ Simpson from any layer of U.S. That's fair. That's fair. But no, I do feel for the players on this because the NFL train will never stop chugging and expanding their, like whatever Godell and the NFL and the owners want, they're going to get. Right.

they'll get the 18 games eventually. I just like, I think they just have to listen to their players. Because number one, like players don't even want Thursday night football. And that's been going on forever. And they just keep expounding on what they're putting these players through. Because don't forget, like it's been kind of a whisper, but it will pick up at some point they're going to want every team international, at least once a season as well.

So the amount of travel, the amount of games and everything. Like, I think two by weeks is like, yeah, that is the most obvious part of it. Minimum. Minimum. A lot of college teams already have multiple bi weeks and play fewer games than the NFL does. Like, it's just, it's common sense. And when they get in the playoffs, that's messing so spaced out. They're like to get 10 days between games.

Exactly. Yeah. So like there's a lot of stuff you have to do to like go back to some of the things you did during the COVID season to make it easier to use certain players and like the eligibility for players and things like that and the practice squads and I are. Like there's going to be a lot of moving parts to this. We could be forward or against it or whatever, but it's going to happen probably within the next few years. Like there what is it the thing where like the 2027 Super Bowl or something doesn't. have a date yet or whatever it is. 2020. It doesn't have a date yet because obviously it's probably going to get pushed back. So it's coming sooner or later.

I just hope they, like, I hope they do whatever they can to actually make it fair for the players. And not just the fact of the players being like, I don't want to. It's like, they're literally, their livelihoods and their physical bodies are being put through so much. Again, like, there's a lot of things you're like it's up to teams right now whether or not they take their by week after

their international appearance don't even make it like you're going to all get at least two by weeks so if you're if you're international you're definitely getting a bye week after uh there's going to be certain times where you can't play Thursday night and this and that like just please be careful with what you're putting these guys through you don't care about that no not at all not at all they don't. And like more, it's obviously more money is the thing. Like an extra week is,

I mean, it's, it's, it's more money for us, guys. Like, everyone who takes part in the NFL is going to benefit financially from it. But the players,

as always, are going to be the ones that have to be the sacrificial lambs to go through this for the benefit of everybody. But yeah, I just for once, I hope they take into account the health of the players. And like Zach said, the new leadership of the NFLPA is what it is. Like, is he for the players?

I don't know. But like for the love of God, like someone with common sense step up and figure out a plan that works for everybody. Because like we know you're going to get your way NFL. You always do. But like just don't kill your players in the process. The only other thing I'll say I want to add it quickly is one of the things they try to do is scale back in preseason with practice. Well, that hurts the product also.

It does. Because they're not being able, they're not able to hit. And you need two or three good weeks of solid hitting because what has to happen to build a tolerance for the season, you've got to lose your legs and then regain them again. And with the type of practices they have now, which is basically, you know, a walk through, you know, they go into the season.

more injuries end up happening during the season because they go so light in the preseason. Carly did mention that they would need to look at the way they restructured and like did the offseason program, which is smart because I think it takes a wholesale change of the entire way the NFL calendar works. So yeah, find a way to like you said, Alan, set things up to not just go from zero to 60 on these guys because I do think that definitely leads to injuries, which that was more of a player-driven thing in the latest CBA. But I don't know. There's just if you do this, there's so much that has to be considered from all sides.

Yeah, and I feel for the players and their bodies. But I mean, think about the, you know, the owners, what if you want a fifth vacation to home and you only have four and then you have to sacrifice that and you want a 10th luxury car in every ocean? I mean, you know, you want to, yeah, like you said, the boat, you know, so there. There's some give and take here. I mean, the players are sacrificing their bodies and the owners have to sacrifice, you know, one of their 17 homes or whatever else. So we can talk about that more. Thanks so much for joining us on the latest edition of the Colts Squad Show.

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