Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - Indianapolis Colts: Are They Closing in On Their QB?

Episode Date: April 3, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Our detective skills are honing in on a prime suspect as to who is the Colts next quarterback. Let's get to it. You are locked on Colts. Your daily Indianapolis Colts podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network. Your team every day. Technical difficulties. Don't know what's up with that.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Anyways, thank you guys for tuning in and making us your first listen of the day. This is your daily podcast covering your Indianapolis Colts, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. I am Jake Arthur, and he is Zach Hicks. You know the two of us from Horseshoehuddle.com, of course. I am finally back in what I hope is a normal week for me. I did some traveling the last couple weeks, this and that, just busy. But thank you to Zach for holding down the fort. Thank you to you guys for your patience. I am ready to get back into the swing of things. So today we're circling
Starting point is 00:01:03 back to the quarterback discussion. Pro days are now in the rear view mirror and we're kind of getting into peak lying season as Zach likes to call it. But Zach and I are going to kind of use our context clues that we've picked up from some of these pro days and just kind of the last couple of weeks of buzz to kind of identify who we think might be going where or what makes the most sense at least so um zach the colts are meeting with now they're not hosting everyone at the facility but they're meeting with the top four quarterbacks this week um it's been reported i think albert brewer reported that they're working out cj stroud and bryce young out in southern cal today, Monday. And then they'll also be meeting with
Starting point is 00:01:45 Will Levis and Anthony Richardson. And they've already met with Hendon Hooker previously. So they obviously were not very heavily represented at Pro Days, but they're doing that. They're doing that tire kicking this week. Yeah. I mean, here's the thing. We love Pro Days. We went to a couple of Pro Days this year. You obviously traveled out there for two of the top quarterbacks in Hendon Hooker's pro day, and I think you were at CJ Stroud's pro day as well. Yep. You're not really learning too much there.
Starting point is 00:02:16 It's a part of the process, obviously, but if guys aren't testing, like CJ Stroud didn't test by any means. Will Levison tested. None of these guys tested their pro days. So you're really not learning much of anything. You're just kind of watching them throw in shorts in a comfortable environment and you're getting your oohs and ahs and your tweets off about it and stuff like that. But you're not really learning much outside of sitting down with them after the pro day or before the pro day and like a meeting and talking with them and
Starting point is 00:02:48 kind of getting to know them. So it makes more sense to work them out individually or work them out separately away from the pro day so they're in like more of an uncomfortable environment so you get to kind of understand them a little bit more and see how they react to something that's not like on their home field in front of all their home fans and home friends and stuff like that so uh yeah i I think this makes more sense. You know, again, the pro days, they are what they are, you know, it's, it's a couple testing a little bit of showing off in the field drills and stuff. But that's, that's really all it is like, you're really not learning too much. So it makes a ton of sense doing what the Colts are doing, especially having, I think Anthony Richardson and Will Levis are both coming to Indy or going to be in the Indy facility. So they're getting those guys, the two guys who are most likely to be who they're deciding between on draft day,
Starting point is 00:03:31 get those guys into the building and kind of figure out which one you want to go with. Yeah, we've heard so much about all the work they've done on Richardson, you know, really all year. This didn't just start when he got hot, like they've been looking into him for a long time, even down in Gainesville and things like that. And you're right. There's, there's not really a whole lot to gleam from the pro days. Like I pay attention to what's going on on the field, but my priority is watching whatever culture representative I can see. I want to watch what they're watching. Um, didn't get a whole lot out of Tennessee. Unfortunately, their, Their availability near the end of the thing was a little weird, but there's definitely some guys in the trenches
Starting point is 00:04:12 that I saw them looking into at Ohio State and Tennessee, so would not be surprised to see some edge rushers, some offensive tackles. They seem to like those guys. But, you know, leading more into Anthony Richardson, we saw something kind of different from his pro day. You know, for the most part, we've seen, you know, Midwest area scout Mike Lacey out there looking at all these top quarterbacks. But Morocco Brown actually made an appearance down at Florida. And, you know, you and I have talked about this a bunch. You know, there's, there's a few guys who, if you see these guys from the Colts at a pro day, it means there's something there. And Morocco Brown, you know, he's, he's one of, I think he's, you know, third in command in the front office. So if he's there, it means quite a bit. So
Starting point is 00:04:59 they're doing their due diligence on Anthony Richardson. And like you said, it kind of seems like he might be the leader in the clubhouse. Yeah, you know, I've kind of always felt throughout this whole process that he would be the leader in the clubhouse just because he fits everything that Chris Ballard looks for in a prospect. And I know it's hard to extrapolate that for quarterback because there's so much more that goes into it. But Chris Ballard is an upside guy. He's the guy who's going to bet on traits and bet on those alien abilities. And that's what Anthony Richardson is. You know, he's the guy who has those abilities. It's just getting him to
Starting point is 00:05:28 where you're going. And honestly, the whole head coaching search was about getting that offensive coach. So it makes sense to pair it with a high upside young quarterback like Anthony Richardson. But to kind of add some more context, you know, Morocco Brown being at a pro day doesn't mean the Colts are absolutely drafting a player from that pro day. It does mean though, that they had their most trusted scout and that's Morocco Brown. I mean, he's the most trusted eyes at a pro day. They had him down there. I know he was already down in that area. You know, he was at the Georgia pro day. He's been making his rounds at some of the bigger pro days down there in the South. So he was probably in the area already but again getting your most trusted eyes
Starting point is 00:06:05 there at at that pro day to see Anthony Richardson live I'm not saying that that means for sure they're taking him but I think like you said it kind of like nudges that like okay maybe Richardson's the guy and you know I heard from somebody who was there at the pro day saying like yeah Morocco Brown was like by Richardson all day like he was was next to, like, he was talking to him after every throw. Like he was walking around behind him, like, like keeping a close, close eye on Anthony Richardson the entire day. So again, I'm not saying this 100% says that it's going to be Anthony Richardson, but you know, again, they had their most trusted guy in that actually travels, you know, Ed Dodds and Chris Bauer don't really travel. Morocco Brown is like those guys eyes out there.
Starting point is 00:06:46 He was there in person. So if he goes back and says like, look, we need to get this guy. That's going to be huge for, for the Colts moving up to three or maybe staying at four and taking him. Yeah. And then, so the other most realistic option we'll get, we'll get to the other top guys in a minute, but the other most realistic option seems to be Will Levis. There's, you know, that, that top core group, Bryce Young, CJ Stroud, and then Anthony Richardson
Starting point is 00:07:10 and Will Levis are kind of on this, this other peak here. So there was a couple conflicting things that came out over the week, and I don't really know if you saw them or not. I honestly don't know how much weight either of them carry. So I believe this first one was Jeremy Fowler. Someone just showed it to me. It was from a report or something. It was about how Will Levis, a lot of people around the league think, Will Levis and the Colts make a lot of sense,
Starting point is 00:07:37 maybe more so than most of the other teams that are projected to be a fit for him. Basically, big athletic quarterback. They kind of made it seem like it would be from the carson wentz vein which still doesn't make too much more sense to me no um as as much physical matters like the mental and attitude and all that stuff matters just as much if not more to the colt so i would be a little surprised on that one and that kind of carries into this other thing. Someone tagged us in this.
Starting point is 00:08:08 It was from Colin Cowherd's show recently. So I've heard, I can't verify it at all, that Chris Ballard and Colin Cowherd are on good terms. They maybe talk every now and then. But Cowherd said on his show, Will Levis posted some shirtless mirror pictures or whatever recently. And he's talked to a couple of GMs, one of them who could be in position to draft lettuce and they just don't like
Starting point is 00:08:34 it whatsoever. Like no one he's talked to likes what lettuce is doing right now, this and that. And, you know, CJ Stroud, isn't doing stuff like this, blah, blah, blah. And you and i have i mean i think we're both fine with will levis as a prospect he's he's not our top guy by any means but i think this just kind of goes into the just dog piling on him like a lot of people are doing like just to give some context to this shirtless picture thing uh like he he was so he was hurt like all year i guess and he lost a lot of like definition and muscle mass and he just wasn't physically the same guy he'd been and so he showed a progress
Starting point is 00:09:11 picture of like look how you know look how much i fell off physically later in the season and now look i've been able to work a lot harder and now i'm healthy again and a lot of people just took that as like a shirtless gym bro thirst trap pick. And like, I just, I don't know. I think it's important to add context to stuff like that. Cause he might be a little bit of a bro. I don't know. But like, I don't know. I think he's more so trying to show that he was healthy.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I don't, I don't think that's a big reason to bury him. And I really hope that teams aren't looking at it that way either. Yeah. Colin Cowherd is a full something, is what I'll say. So that's all I'll say about Colin Cowherd. Look, he's a TV guy. You've got to save these really bombastic, crazy things to get views, and that's just how TV is right now.
Starting point is 00:09:59 And I'm not trying to say we're better than TV guys because we're on podcasts or anything like that, but it's just how TV guys are. have to say everything for the clip and maybe a GM did tell me it was a GM picking 30th who has a quarterback or maybe it was the Bengals GM or something being like oh yeah we wouldn't take him well yeah you're not taking him you have Joe Burrow like sure you don't like it and then yeah a guy a team that's like in the range to draft and whatever maybe that's like the Seahawks GM who they're probably not going quarterback or the Falcons GM where they're probably not going quarterback you know so Colin Coward yeah he can you know he can do his thing in terms of the other thing Jeremy Fowler stuff I'll say a little bit more
Starting point is 00:10:37 in our next segment about why I think that's coming out now and who I think is driving that but I will say at the end of the day we we'll have a good prospect, a quarterback that should go in round one, maybe in the upper half of round one. There's a lot of really good things there in terms of talent, mentality, and just the person he is. So yeah, I don't doubt the Colts like him. I'm sure the Colts like him a good bit and they could have him above Anthony Richardson. It wouldn't shock me at all. I just think the timing of it, I'll go into it more in segment two all I just think the timing of it I'll go into it more in segment two but I think the timing of it points to something else yeah we're gonna dive into some of those latest rumors and the whole lying season thing here in a second uh but first we want to chat
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Starting point is 00:12:22 That's ultimate-gm.com. Ultimate Football GM. Start your dynasty today. gm.com or look it up in the app stores that's ultimate-gm.com ultimate football gm start your dynasty today all right jake so we'll kick we'll kick off this latest buzz and rumors thing about talking about cj stroud talking about bryce young yes the colts are going to see them in person work them out at their facility there in california this week I would say less than 1% chance those guys are not the top two picks. Like I would say everything I've heard, everything I've seen everyone else here, everything that's kind of been put out there ever since Carolina made that move up to one is it's going to go CJ Stroud at one, Bryce Young at two, and the NFL draft starts at three.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Would you agree with that there, Jake? Yeah. As much as there's smoke screens and lying and people just trying to throw a whole wrench in the mix, I feel like every year, for the most part, you kind of know what's going to happen in certain spots. And there just seems to be very little mystery to the top of this thing. And you and I just know so much context to both of it that it just makes too much sense. Like CJ Stroud and the Panthers and Frank Reich, that just seems like a match made in heaven. Stroud is very much a Frank Reich style of quarterback. We have seen how much Frank seems to appreciate watching Stroud. You know, they've talked, you know, they've worked out and everything like
Starting point is 00:13:46 that just seems like too good to be true. And Frank's not really of the lying type. He's not going to go out there and building a bunch of smoke screens. Like I think what Frank is doing and what he's showing is genuine. And I mean, they didn't hire Frank to not be an influential person and, you know, help make this decision who's going to be their quarterback. And then at Bryce Young, you know, probably not as public, but I think we really think the Texans like him, you know, D'Amico Ryans really likes Bryce Young, fellow Alabama alum. You know, even, even if, even if the Panthers were to get young, I don't, you know, I don't know that the Stroud would go to the Texans, but again, that's, that's when you say, you know, the draft starts at number three is, I don't want to say
Starting point is 00:14:29 they're iron clad, but I just would be really, really surprised if those weren't the first two picks to those specific teams, you know, barring another team trading in and mixing everything up, but I'd be really surprised. Yeah. Yeah. So now let's talk about that number three spot, because this is where I really wanted to get into it that last part there is if you've been following news around the nfl and nfl media except the last two weeks it has been on one side we've heard like oh the seahawks might move up from number five oh the lions might move up from six oh vegas is really looking into these quarterbacks they might move up from from that to number three oh the titans here they come now the titans are coming up to number three and Oh, the Titans, here they come. Now the Titans are coming up to number three. And then on the Colts end, you've been
Starting point is 00:15:08 hearing a lot this past week. Ah, they're cool with Levis. Ah, they're cool with Richardson. Oh, look, they're looking into Lamar Jackson. Oh, look, Hendon Hooker in round two, it seems like it's going to happen. What we have right now is two teams that somewhat want to make a deal with each other in the Cardinals and the Colts. Colts, obviously, if they don't have to make a deal, they won't go up, but they're fine with making that deal to go up and get their quarterback. On the other hand, you have the Cardinals who, unless they get an offer that like Carolina gave the Bears, they don't want to move out of that top three or four because they want to get the top defender available, but they want to get extra picks on top of that. So they want to move to four.
Starting point is 00:15:45 They don't want to move to five, six, seven, 11, you know, whatever these other positions are, unless they're getting like a future first and future and other future stuff. So what we're going to have for about a month now for another month here, guys, is the most absurd lying season between two squads that have respect for each other and have open communication like i have heard they have already talked about a potential trade and what the parameters that would look like but you had the cardinals trying to drive up that price just a little bit more and the colts trying to drive it down a little bit more that's what this whole next month is going to be the colts we're going to hear constant lamar jackson stuff we're going to hear constant will levis and richardson are the same tier for the colt stuff we're going to hear constant Lamar Jackson stuff. We're going to hear constant Will Levis and Richardson are the same tier for the Colts stuff. We're going to hear Hendon Hooker stuff some more, which is going to be fun.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I love it. And then on the other end, again, we're going to hear how Pete Carroll needs Anthony Richardson to do everything. Like Pete Carroll, oh my gosh, he needs Anthony Richardson. He's going to come up to number three. We're going to hear about how Jared Goff is not the guy in Detroit, and they're going to come up to number three. We're going to hear about Tennessee with Vrabel wants to get, you know, their guy, and they're going to come up to number three. We're going to hear about Tennessee with Vrabel wants to get their guy, and they're going to give up multiple first-round picks to come up. It's all lying season.
Starting point is 00:16:51 I would be shocked by the end of this if it's not Indy moving up to three for a two-day, two picks, like maybe 79 this year and maybe a second or third next year, plus a little bit of cash on at the end. I'd be completely shocked if a team jumped Indy from everything I've heard, everything that I've kind of seen around this. I really think right now we are in the situation where we got two teams. Just, just trying to drive that price up a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Like the Cardinals trying to get just an extra pick or two from the Colts and Colts are trying to make it so they don't have to move up to three. But again, the Cardinals would rather move out from three to six or seven or whatever than get nothing. But I do think they want to stay in that four in that top three or four range to get that top defender. So it's going to be interesting.
Starting point is 00:17:36 It's going to be a lot of postulating between the two sides. It's going to be a lot of, you know, trying to get someone to, you know, it's a game of chicken between these two right now. I think both want to make a deal. And we're kind of seeing that kind of negotiation through the media. But it's going to go right up until draft day. These two teams are going to be just leaking the most random stuff in order to get that value moved up and down. So don't believe really anything you see here in April, even if it's something that you like.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Like, say you're a big Anthony Richardson person, and all of a sudden you see Colts are going to take Anthony Richardson no matter what. Like they are sold on it. Don't believe it. It's lying season. April is where GMs and front office people are just so bored. They're throwing out random stuff,
Starting point is 00:18:18 trying to move draft value as much as possible. It is lying season, guys. And these two teams are in a game of chicken right now, trying to get that value up and down. But ultimately I'd be really shocked if it's not the Colts just moving up to three for a couple of extra picks. Yeah. I know everyone has been kind of waiting on that move. You know, the Colts got to get up there and it may very well happen. We know exactly how patient Chris Ballard can be. I mean, the talks and flirtations with them and the Eagles about the Carson Wentz thing went on forever a couple years ago.
Starting point is 00:18:49 So there's no deadline to do this up until April 27th. So we do still have three and a half weeks for this. And you're right, it's two stubborn sides. The Colts aren't going to force any big – I think moving up one spot is perfect for them because they're never going to give up a huge amount of draft capital will they give up a you know a day one or two day two picks whatever it's something in the future sure because that's not gonna just not going to totally strap them and ruin their draft and then likewise
Starting point is 00:19:21 like you said the the Cardinals probably want to make sure they land Will Anderson or Jalen Carter, whatever they can do. So it's literally the perfect thing. The Colts only have to give up enough to move up one spot, and the Cardinals can still get a little bit recouped and only have to move back one spot. And they're not in danger of the Colts picking their players. So I'm not going to say it's going to happen, but like, I think the Colts are the most likely team that would move up to three. Yeah. I, again, I think there could be a team like, you know, the Lions have a lot of capital. They can move up and they could offer number six, they could offer 18 and then even a little bit
Starting point is 00:19:58 more. And if I'm the Cardinals, I'm taking that personally, but you never know. I think ideally the Cardinals want to move back to number four I think they want to get 35 from the Colts and the Colts probably don't want to give up 35 because they know with 35 you can move back and get an extra third rounder as well so they'd be much more willing to give up number 79 plus next year's second or next year's third and and some day three picks on top of it so it's all it's all just the game of chicken right now these two teams are negotiating through the media and you're gonna see just you're just gonna see the every single national like beat reporter type guy you're gonna see the ian rapaport being like colts are locked in on both these quarterbacks they want both so bad because that's the colts
Starting point is 00:20:39 leaking that out to rapaport and then you're to see on the other end how Schefter will tweet out something like the Vegas is all in on Anthony Richardson and we'll do whatever it takes to get him. It's just these two sides are trying to get the other one to bulge first. So I do think again, ultimately, I think the Colts are going to move up to three. I think they're going to get whichever quarterback they want. I'm not saying which one it is because I don't know. I don't I don't even know what they know yet. But I think I do think they're going to ultimately move up to three and get their guy. I just think it's going to be a long process to get there. And the Cardinals aren't going to agree to a deal until draft night anyway, because that's where your value is going to be the most.
Starting point is 00:21:15 If you're going to have a team like Tennessee or Detroit or whoever give you this crazy deal that makes you want to move back even more than just a four it's going to happen on draft night or if you're going to really get the colts to flinch it's going to happen on draft night so there's not going to be a trade done until draft night because of the value that's going to come there but uh yeah i do think it's just a big game of chicken right now and unfortunately we're along for the ride until, until draft night. Yeah. Deadline spur actions for sure. Cause I, I mean, we've seen the Colts, you know, they, they moved from three to six before the draft back in 2018. You know, we've seen them get ahead of it early before, which could happen, but you know, either side, they have all this,
Starting point is 00:22:02 all this time to bargain for, you know, I don't really see it happening already. I will say, though, one of those teams that has been kind of mentioned in moving up and, you know, possibly hopping the Colts at three would be Seattle at five. I don't know. That's going to take a lot steeper of a ticket, I think, because I don't think Arizona is going to be wanting to give a division rival the ammo to come in and get a quarterback and hopefully set themselves up for the next 10-12 years so you know that's that's one team that I don't want to completely write them off the table but you know it kind of lessens the competition a little bit because that's another team that a lot of people have talked about especially with Richardson uh wanting Richardson and hopping up to three to get him
Starting point is 00:22:44 yeah the the things I've heard I've actually been one of the bigger proponents of saying Detroit's especially with Richardson, wanting Richardson and hopping up to three to get them. Yeah. The, the things I've heard, I've actually been one of the bigger proponents of saying Detroit's a team to watch, but something I heard today was probably not for Detroit now that they're pretty set with golf and they're feeling happy there. And there's a certain defender that they're going to take at six at five.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Yeah. I just, I don't see Seattle doing, I think Seattle's trying to leak that they're interested because they want a team to jump up from behind them to number three so the colts they take like levis so all quarterbacks go in front of them so they get the top defender in the entire draft like they want the cardinals to move out of that spot just so they can get their top defender so i think that's just them playing chicken as well the only team i'd really really
Starting point is 00:23:23 say to watch that i'm nervous i'm somewhat nervous about is vegas because you have a coach that might be on the hot seat like we don't really know like they would have to pay him a lot to get rid of him so they could be a little desperate and then they have a front office that is notoriously secretive like he comes from that their gm comes from that patriots line where they're just kind of secretive you don't really know what they're doing like they're just a true wild card. Yes, they just gave that big money to Jimmy Garoppolo. They do technically have an out next year though.
Starting point is 00:23:50 So it could just be like a one-year rental. So they're the ones I'm most nervous about because I just don't see the Titans giving up like a gigantic deal to go all the way up to three. So it really is just Vegas in my mind right now, even though I've been saying Detroit for a while. But we'll see. We'll see. It's all lying season. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:24:07 Maybe, maybe there's 30 teams that want to move up to three. Like who knows? I have no clue right now. I think you're right about Vegas probably being that biggest X factor. Cause you know, under the Davis family ownership forever, you know, they've, they have never been afraid to take big swings and go move up and do what they want, whether it's money, draft capital, whatever. So that would be very that would be very on brand for the Raiders to do that. And gosh, they've probably been I'd say they've been the team that I have heard the most about that has made the most sense to do it.
Starting point is 00:24:41 You know, yeah. Other teams have reasons not to. And I mean, Vegas have reasons not to and i mean vegas has reasons not to like you said garoppolo and i'd heard before free agency and everything he really only wanted to go somewhere if he was going to be the starter but tennessee is another x factor uh in the whole thing as well that would be the worst because it's of course it'd be another l for the colts against the titans you know they'd have to give they'd have to give up so much to like they'd have to give her an 11 by the way yeah They'd have to give up so much. They're at 11, by the way. Yeah, they'd have to give up something similar to the Cardinals or to the Panthers deal to get all the way up to three.
Starting point is 00:25:13 They're not always big swingers with that kind of stuff. I think they're trying to take it slow, and they're trying to reevaluate the roster and see where they can go forward. So we'll see. They might be just in love with Richardson and try something like that. The last thing I wanted to address here, though, with Christine, that the Colts
Starting point is 00:25:27 have been doing a lot of homework on Levis, according to Jeremy Fowler. Yes, they have. But from what I've heard, they did a lot of their homework on Levis last year. They sent a lot of scouts to his games and were kind of there in person and met with him a lot. This year, it wasn't as much. They did a lot more homework on Richardson this year, which makes sense. Richardson was his first year starting this year. So they did a lot of that homework this year on Richardson. But yeah, they've been doing a lot of research on both these guys. Like it wouldn't shock me if they take Levis over Richardson, but personally, I think it's Richardson over Levis, but yeah, I could, I could totally see it being, being Levis. I don't doubt Levis's ability or his personality whatsoever, but yeah, I could, I could totally see it being, being Levis. I, I, I don't doubt Levis's
Starting point is 00:26:06 ability or his personality whatsoever, but we'll see, we'll see who wins this game of chicken or if another team comes in and steals it from the Colts. But again, I do ultimately think this is just a game of chicken right now. And these two teams are, are just kind of posturing until draft night. Something that definitely tells me it's a big game of chicken as well is like just the crazy variance in hendon hook for example like we've seen mox recently where he's in the top 10 and like but he could go around two around three it's like someone is out there doing some some uh media work um let's i'm not gonna rule the colts taking him in the second round or something because it wouldn't make sense for them.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I know you're not. Nope, I'm ruling it out. It's on brand for them. Nope. But they're not taking him in the top ten. Nope. They're not taking him at all. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Nope. Okay, so now I'm going to have to have a show where it's just you talking about kickers and Hennon Hooker being taken at four and drinking coffee, all the things you hate. I did talk at an hooker the other day. I love him as a person. I'm a VT guy.
Starting point is 00:27:15 He went to VT. Like, I love him. Like he's a great dude. It's just that profile is the scariest profile in this entire draft. Like, like Bryce Young is a complete outlier with his weight but the there's enough there on film enough him doing him doing stuff in pro offense Anthony
Starting point is 00:27:31 Richardson's uh just overall accuracy as a major outlier but we've seen guys succeed in that way before I don't think we've ever seen a what 25 year old quarterback coming from that Baylor spread offense where you're just I mean the middle of the field doesn't exist to him on film. So how are you going to come to the NFL? You know, like, it's just, I like Hendon Hooker and I hate talking bad about him on all these things, but nah, no, no, nope. I'm sorry. Just don't take a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:27:59 If you're passing on them in the top 10, like, just don't take one. Like there's no point. That's the thing. I think we are allowed to go middle of the road you know especially you know hooker and levis are a couple of the guys and richardson has had this too where people are either just vehemently against him or like just absolutely waving the flags for him you know there's not much middle ground there and i think there's some reason for optimism and pessimism. I can't say it.
Starting point is 00:28:28 You can't speak. Pessimism. You're on a podcast, Jake. Come on. I'm a professional talkist. But no, I mean, there's reasons to be excited and bummed out for any of these guys, really. Yeah. Okay, one more thing.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Christine keeps giving me things. Did we say anything about Levis not being smart? Christine says, Levis is a 4.0 and a Masters. Where are you getting he isn't smart from the neck up? I don't think we said that. I mean, we've discussed, you know, I mean, there's people who may not like his mentality, you know, and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:29:02 He has a little bit of the the arrogant streak some some people might think he's a bit of a bro or whatever but that doesn't bother me we've already kind of dismissed that like i don't even think he's that like honestly i just think he's a fun dude like i don't yeah maybe she was talking to someone else in the comments oh maybe yeah i don't know i just want to address that i think levis is a really smart quarterback like he's he's the only one in this class who's been in two pro offenses. Like I think he's a smart quarterback and I think he's a, he's a good player. So, and I love his work. His work ethic is really top notch, honestly. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, I think we got to close this out now, Jake, we actually went a little
Starting point is 00:29:37 long for two segments, but you guys gave us some good questions there at the end. I appreciate it. Yeah, no, we're, uh, we're going to be back with you this week talking about more stuff. Uh, we've got someone in, uh, who specializes in Florida Gators football to talk to us about Anthony Richardson coming up this week. And I'm sure we'll be taking your questions at some point, because at this point we just kind of want to tailor things to what you guys want to want to listen to. Yeah. So probably a lot of quarterback stuff. I wish you guys would click more on like me talking about small school prospects to watch and stuff like that, but you know,
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