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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Indianapolis Colts could find their quarterback competition for Anthony Richardson in this draft. There's buzz here in Indy. Let's get to it. You are locked on Colts, your daily Indianapolis Colts podcast. Part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. Thank you all for tuning in and making us your first listen of the day. This is your daily podcast covering your Indianapolis Colts, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Today's episode is brought to you by FanDuel.

Starting point is 00:00:36 Right now, new FanDuel customers can get $150 in bonus bets if your first $5 bet wins. Hello, everyone. My name is Zach Hicks, your resident film nerd of HorseshoeHuddle.com. And my partner in crime, Jake Arthur, is our credentialed boots on the ground, which honestly is even good for that this week because my boots are on the ground this week here. I wish I upgraded to boots. Yeah, that's true. I took Jake's job this week, so we're both your co-boots on the ground here

Starting point is 00:01:02 at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis. We got testing numbers coming in. We have vibes. We have feelings. It's a great week here. Always vibes. Yeah, always vibes. It's a great week here in Indy.

Starting point is 00:01:15 So today, guys, we're going to talk about just kind of the latest hubbub, what we're hearing, everything that's going on here in Indy. And we're also going to do some reactions to some testing numbers. As we're recording this, the cornerbacks have already done their test we are seeing the safeties about to run their 40s so I'm sure we'll both scream when Emanwari just goes crazy with that one but we're going to react to those tests there and also react to some defensive tackles and defensive linemen from last night but first Jake let's talk about the biggest news and just kind of what we're hearing this week in Indy and I think number one is the Colts have met with a couple quarterbacks

Starting point is 00:01:50 this week right yeah they sure have uh so one of them kind of kind of a polarizing prospect uh when you were you just mean Zach doesn't like him polarizing I well a lot of people though I mean the kids started out as a potential first rounder before the season, and now we're looking at, I don't know, somewhere in the middle rounds. Right. He did confirm that the Colts met with him. Formal. Formal meeting.

Starting point is 00:02:14 Yeah. They're going to do their due diligence, of course. Like, they probably need to add a quarterback in this draft. I think the wise money says if they really want to address it, they get some mid-level free agent, veteran free agent, and then draft someone who is not just kind of a throwaway draft pick as well. Ewers has some validity to taking a guy like that. You don't want to take him in the first, obviously. But you build a nice little quarterback room like that around Anthony Richardson as well.

Starting point is 00:02:46 And then you got some options at least. Right. Like you could bring in Mac Jones and free agency and then also draft Mac Jones and Quinn Ewers and just have a whole room of Anthony Richardson's surrounded by Mac Jones. I think we're done with the show. Good night, everyone. This was fun. But yeah, I know.

Starting point is 00:03:02 I do think the Colts could go quarterback in this draft for sure. Look, statistically speaking, going quarterback in the mid rounds is almost always a wasted investment. You're usually not going to get anything out of that. But honestly, you're not going to get anything out of investing anything in a quarterback because it's such a low hit rate at that position. But just to kind of show that you're serious about competition and bringing in outside faces and honestly running back a retread of a veteran quarterback like i just mentioned like does a mac jones inspire anybody

Starting point is 00:03:29 no but does a quinn ewers kind of inspire people because he's an unknown yeah does a played with ad mitchell all right there's some connection there i don't know there you go jake reaching up the straws there but yeah like i i don't know quinn ewers i think is more enticing than a player like a mac jones because you don't know what he is and that's just the example here like getting a draft quarterback to be that backup or that quote-unquote competition for anthony richardson might make more sense than the veteran free agent market because you can sell that as like an unknown or sell that as something different than just hey we're bringing Mac Jones. Oh, he's competing with Anthony Richland.

Starting point is 00:04:07 Like, OK, competing for what? One of the worst starters in football. Like, come on. No, I've heard they are. They are serious about the quarterback situation. You know, it's been said on air on national stuff, you know, just speaking with colleagues here. Like everything seems like the Colts are going to be serious about adding more to the room we don't know how much talent is we don't know if it's

Starting point is 00:04:30 gonna be people we like obviously I don't think you know Mac Jones or anyone is gonna really move the meter I don't think we're gonna like that but they're adding experience I think if they do something like that and add someone from like the fourth or fifth round i think we could all live with that i mean we'd have to live with it because that might be what happens this offseason there are no great solutions this is not really a year for great solutions so that's just gonna have to be what we live with yeah and and the other vibe we're kind of getting and this kind of stays on track with the offense vibe with that quarterback position is this might be an offensive draft for the colts not offensive draft i mean maybe to some of you is this might be an offensive draft for the Colts not offensive

Starting point is 00:05:05 draft I mean maybe to some of you guys it might be offensive we have seen offensive drafts but this might be an offensive draft in terms of you know they're looking at quarterbacks they're taught they've talked to a lot of running backs this week we all kind of think they might go tight in in round one I think that's the easy money right there and then with O-line and Fluxus all season they might be drafting some offensive linemen too so i know we want to talk about them talking to running backs jake but just in general say the colts go very heavy veteran defense and free agency this could be a very offensive draft yeah i i think they have more time to be patient with like draft picks on the offensive side of the ball there's a little more there yeah on defense they need quick fixes they need guys who can play for lou anna rumo now uh and then you know bring in some longer developing players

Starting point is 00:05:51 along with that but the cupboard is more bare defensively they need help more immediately on that side of the ball and i think that's what we could probably see through free agency and the draft yeah i mean and again they've talked to a couple running backs this week i mean we've got confirmations from ollie gordon uh at genti as well great drake wally talked to a few guys today too that also talked to those are more day three guys but they've they've been kicking the tires literally from the top of the mountain at ashton genti all the way through to the seventh round guys so they're right i think they're going to be intentional about adding to the running back room in the draft right and and just to clarify i mean teams talk to most players here at the combine but i think it is worthwhile just to make note that they are making

Starting point is 00:06:34 an effort to talk to a lot of these running backs here for sure um and another things we heard going away from the draft i know we all want to talk about the draft right now but just a little bit of buzz on some colts upcoming free agents. I think we've all kind of felt this, but Julian Blackman, I think it's very, very unlikely that he will be back with the team. And again, you don't need some insider knowledge to know that. It's just from the vibes we're getting here, though, I'd be very, very shocked if Julian Blackman were back this offseason.

Starting point is 00:07:02 Yeah, it just, again that's those are those are conclusions we could have drawn like right after it really throughout the season right but you know they lowballed him last year and I mean he didn't have a lot out there so he came back wasn't really thrilled with the deal that he signed uh you know suffered that labrum injury early in the season that he had to play through the whole whole season and he didn't look like himself and he had to be the one out there playing because the colts didn't do anything else at the position uh so in a contract year he played the worst season of his career was injured it just doesn't seem logical that the marriage continues you know i mean i think it's probably best for for both

Starting point is 00:07:46 sides to part ways yeah and then another upcoming free agent that we don't think the colts are going to bring back but they might be a little more inclined to try and bring him back and that is daio dangbo yeah i'd be very shocked if he's brought back to the colts from everything i've heard this week yeah it's not necessarily because the colts aren't going to try i do think they're going to reach out but the vibe i'm getting is that Dio probably wants to go elsewhere. And I don't think the Colts are going to be willing to pay as much as he's going to get. I don't think it's going to be like a crazy,

Starting point is 00:08:13 crazy amount, but I do think Colts fans are gonna be a little shocked when they see it maybe hit the double digits, like the 10, 11, 12 million per year. I do think it could get up to that. And I don't know if the Colts are going to be that competitive and bringing back a part-time player who was on and off with his production here.

Starting point is 00:08:29 He probably wants a fresh start too. So I just don't see him coming back to Indy. Yeah. I think the issue there is just going to be that they're going to get probably priced out. You know, there there's going to be competition for him. There are, there are other teams that I think probably have him pretty high up on their free agency big boards. And again, the Colts don't win bidding wars. I mean, maybe sometimes for their own players, but we have Daiwa Dangbo at home and Sam Senebukom, the 30-year-old coming off the Achilles. When it comes to the Colts getting in bidding wars and having competition for free agents,

Starting point is 00:09:09 it doesn't usually wind up with them being on the winning end. Yeah, so we'll see if they can replace that production that Dio's given in the last two years, but I'd be very shocked if Odengbo is back in Indy next season. But coming up, guys, we are going to transition more to talking prospects. We're going to talk about this NFL combine. We're going to react to last night's testing numbers and react to kind of the numbers we've seen today and what's going on right in front of us. When the game tips off, the NBA action is just getting started and there's no better place to get in on all that action than FanDuel, America's number one sportsbook. With FanDuel, you can place live bets throughout the game. So even if you miss the opening tip off or you want to bet on a fourth quarter comeback, you can stay in on the action.

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Starting point is 00:10:37 work out or they're too small or their size is crazy in a bad way. And so we've got some guys highlighted here who we thought might test well. And so far they've knocked it out of the park, you know, so yesterday it was defensive tackles, edge guys, linebackers, and now we're looking at cornerbacks and safeties performing right now. So let's go ahead and get the guys from yesterday out of the way before we start moving into some of these guys that are really turning heads today. Yeah. I mean, the biggest one, the guy we've been talking about for the last two weeks, honestly, is Texas A&M pass rusher Shamar Stewart. And I've been making the quip on the show the last couple weeks is like,

Starting point is 00:11:12 look, if Stewart's there at 14, Chris Ballard's going to have that Green Goblin voice in his head about how he's got to do it. And I know everyone's not going to love it because it's a guy with four and a half career sacks in three seasons. And they just drafted an edge last yearacks in three seasons and they just drafted an edge last year in the first and they just drafted an edge last year in the first uh but look this is the perfect we just talked about dio dangbo leaving in free agency this is their replacement for dio dangbo he came in at 65 267 so a little bit under the weight that he was listed

Starting point is 00:11:38 in college uh 34 inch arms which is insane ran a 45 nine had a 40 inch vertical and a 10 11 broad honestly you know what's funny is the expectations were so high from him like in his testing that the four five nine feels underwhelming to a degree but we're talking about a one-of-one athlete like a trayvon walker type of athlete davian clowny type of athlete and some team's gonna take that top 10 some team's gonna take that top 15 and if he's there at 14 the Colts just might be that team uh so yeah we've made the joke the last couple weeks that that's the perfect Ballard guy especially when you factor in the lack of production uh but yeah Shamar Stewart I think that is uh he tested the way everyone expected which was super superstar level testing yeah this is just the latest box that he's checked because

Starting point is 00:12:24 he also was a stand out at the Senior Bowl as well. I believe he was one of those guys that left early because he had already kicked so much tail that didn't need to show up for the rest of the event. So Shamar Stewart passing with flying colors. Jihad Campbell, a very, very interesting option for the Colts. They need some help in the middle of the defense. They need more juice at linebacker. We like Jalen Carlisle and what he could be. Zyre Franklin is at minimum an average starting Mike. But Jihad Campbell, he changes things for you instantly.

Starting point is 00:12:58 He's violent, explosive. He's got those instincts. He has no fear. Just crazy athletic. Any possible thing that you might want in an off-ball linebacker, he's got it for you. Yeah, he's very young too, only 20 years old, and testing and moving the way he did, 6'3", 235, ran a 4.52 with a 10.7 broad.

Starting point is 00:13:18 That is just bonkers numbers right there. And honestly, we're looking at another player where he might go in the top 10, so we don't even know if the Colts will have a chance at him because he's a freaky tester. He's athletic on film. He's physical on film. I mean, again, he's moving like this at 235 and plays at a crazy high level of physicality. You can play him on the edge.

Starting point is 00:13:35 And it's another reason why he fits the Colts because the Colts like to do with Louie and Aruma, we're going to like to do some bare fronts where they drop the linebacker onto the end of the line. But yeah, Campbell is just a freaky, freaky player. And yeah, the Colts, I would be happy if the Colts took him at 14. I don't think he's going to be there, but one of the best players in this draft. Yeah, without question.

Starting point is 00:13:55 He's one of the guys I wouldn't really hesitate to turn the card in for. A couple of cornerbacks, they're not necessarily of the same mold, but still a couple guys that fit the Colts. Darian Porter, that's one of your guys for sure 6 3 195 over 33 inch arms ran a 4 3 36 and a half inch vertical which is is good it's not awesome but it's pretty good uh 10 foot 11 broad maxwell harrison 5 11 183 kind of got that terrian arnold size a little bit um 31 inch arms is okay but 428 i think it wanted to be a 429 official uh 39 and a half inch vertical 10 foot 9 broad so these are really explosive athletes you know for for hairston you know what he maybe lacks in the length he gets an explosion

Starting point is 00:14:41 and you know he can he can get up and get the ball away. Yeah, I mean, Hairston, this is the guy where you just got to get your popcorn ready and watch that 40-time. Our colleague, Destin Adams, was the one who told us about his quotes at the interviews or whatever, saying, you know, got to get ready. What was Destin? What was the nickname that Hairston had? The Locksmith. The Locksmith. So the Locksmith Maxwell Hairston. Destin's right off camera, that Hairston had? The Locksmith. So the Locksmith, Maxwell Hairston.

Starting point is 00:15:08 Destin's right off camera, so I was able to ask him. But Maxwell Hairston, the Locksmith, got your popcorn ready to watch that 40 time, ran a 4.28, one of the highest max speeds in 40-yard dash history. It was in top five all time since they've been measuring this, only behind Xavier Worthy and and david and uh devon achain so fantastic athlete uh he's got top 50 film as well harrison might sneak into that bottom half of round one and darian porter it's a guy i've talked about the last couple weeks on this on this show i mean look he's 25 and he's got one year of film on defense but the one year film was

Starting point is 00:15:42 pretty good yeah and honestly you give me six, three, one 95 running a four, three flat with a 39 inch vert and a 10, nine broad. I don't care if he's never played corner before. I'm still taking him to play corner at that. He could be 50 years old with those measurables and that speed.

Starting point is 00:16:00 And I'm taking him in probably round three. Like I fall for that type every single time. Big, fast, strong, explosive. I can make it work. I can make him work. You know, like that. I fully believe in those traits. You'll bring out the best.

Starting point is 00:16:14 I will bring out the best. I can turn this mean boy around. But no, I really think this is a guy when you look at Lou Anarumo's history of we want big, fast, physical corners. Porter just kind of fits that. It's just just the age the age is really the one thing but I keep an eye on him in round three for the Colts I think round three is a good range for him in the Colts and again if Lou has any confidence in his ability as a developer of talent and has any belief in Chris Hewitt's ability to

Starting point is 00:16:42 develop talent yeah I think a guy like Porter could really be their guy in round three. Yeah. And another guy who did really well down at the senior bowl as well. So those guys who check all, you know, they pass all those tests do well at the senior bowl, do well at the combine. They measure.

Starting point is 00:16:57 Well, those guys tend to translate pretty well. And a guy I've been stalling on cause I'm waiting to see his 40 score, but he's knocked everything else out of the park. Safety, Nick M andari from South Carolina. Mind you, this is a safety. 6'3", 220, over 32-inch arms, 43-inch vertical, 11'6", broad jump. I mean, I've got to imagine he's going to run in the 4'3s or low 4'4s or something.

Starting point is 00:17:20 So this dude aced the test. Yeah, let's guess before he runs here i know you know what's gonna be funny is we're recording this early but we're gonna post it after he runs so we're gonna look like we cheated if we get it right but i'm gonna say like four three four honestly is what it's probably gonna end up being uh yeah he's testing the way we all expected which was superstar level tester uh and yeah you have to be careful sometimes with guys like him and porter where on film they show this athleticism You don't want to count it twice on their evaluation. So if you had Nick Emanuari as a top 15, top 20 player going into today, he's just proving that.

Starting point is 00:17:53 He's not worthy of moving up to like top five or anything. And same for anyone who like detracted from him. But yeah, this is exactly why he was rated as a first round pick by most people is this type of athleticism is freaky. It's legendary. It's unreal. You see it on film and now we're seeing it here at the combine. Yeah. And, and for those of you unfamiliar with them, if you're looking for that, just very rare blend of the size, length, and athleticism, you're looking at a Jeremy Chen type, you know, the high end, you know, if, if all goes amazing in his career, you know, Derwin James, Kyle Hamilton. That's Duggar Duggar from the Patriots as well.

Starting point is 00:18:32 Yeah, that's the kind of prototype you're hoping that he gets to. Right. But he's probably a first round pick. So like if if the Colts trade back at all and the first round, I think he's a prime candidate to land. You might have to take him at 14. Yeah. After what he does here at the field on the combine, for sure. Let's get to some other guys though. These guys all performed yesterday for the most part.

Starting point is 00:18:54 Carson Schlesinger, the linebacker, really good in coverage. He measured. Okay. You know, I, I like a guy who weighs in kind of, you know, 62, 242. It's a big dude, but he moves really well out on the open field. Had a good field workout. 39.5-inch vertical as well. Zaha Frazier is another corner out here from UTSA.

Starting point is 00:19:15 6'3", 186. Nearly 33-inch arms. 4'3", 640. Did really well in his jumps. 36.5-inch vert, 10'6 broad. Landon Jackson was one of the big standouts from yesterday. 6'6, 264. Good field workout. Good jumps. Darius Alexander is a guy you could gush about. Another guy, it's a bummer how old he is, but

Starting point is 00:19:39 guys that big have no business moving like they do. Yeah, definitely four standout guys there. If Zoff Frazier could learn how to turn his hips a little bit, I'd be more excited. But look, 6'3", 186, 32-inch arms, 4'3", 6". Again, if he's never played corner before in his life, I'm taking him somewhere in the draft. So give me those big, fast corners.

Starting point is 00:19:59 I'm a big fan of what Frazier's put out there. And yeah, Darius Alexander, really good film, older player. So it's a little bit concerning when you see a guy where it's like his best film came when he was playing against 22 year olds and 21 year olds when he's 25. But I do like Darius Alexander a good bit. Indy native to Indiana native. Yeah. Looking like me against my nephews at Thanksgiving out there. Maybe a little more athletic though, right? That's what he is. Yeah. All right, guys. So we have spent all of our mornings down here talking to a bunch of different players and some of them have really stood out to us we've

Starting point is 00:20:30 really liked what we've heard from them and we will tell you all about it here in just a moment all right man so we have been covering ground this week uh one guy that really stood out to me that is an obvious colts connection is malachi starks um that's a guy they would have to get at 14 that is their their top star safety if they go out and get him got versatility he's played everywhere he was their dime linebacker is a true freshman at times uh deep safety box uh wide slot, wherever you want to put the kid, you can find a way to make it work. Very smart, instinctive player, the type of guy Lou Anarumo said that they're going to need. And he just he he really talked the talk up at the podium earlier this week. He was someone I was really impressed with. You know, these these UGA defensive backs have a knack for being really intelligent,

Starting point is 00:21:28 and they're just really well-prepared for the NFL. They have a really high hit rate. Yeah, and one thing I want to add about Starks, this is not about his interview because you sat in on that one, but people overthink these SEC players who come in at 18 years old and are dominant right away. You know, they think, like, they have to be that same dominant through all three years. And a guy like Starks, he came in at 18 in the SEC and was a baller.

Starting point is 00:21:53 The second year, he was an AP All-American at 19. And then, yeah, his 20-year-old season wasn't as great in playmaking. But again, this guy's been doing it since he was 18 in the SEC. I'm going to bet on that guy in playmaking. Again, this guy's been doing it since he was 18 in the SEC. I'm going to bet on that guy in the NFL. And before I kick it back to you, Jake, MNWARI just ran a 4-4 flat, so that's our unofficial. By the time we post this, the official might be out,

Starting point is 00:22:15 but I was a little off of my projection. But 4-4, oh, flat, Jesus. Yeah, that's really good. So Starks did also explain what one concern people have about him is a drop off and playmaking in his final year here his junior year. He said basically the answer that is he was just playing a different role than he had been asked to play in his first couple years. One of his teammates Jalen Walker from Georgia. This is a guy that's a coach's son and it feels like he he keeps a really strong supporting cast around him very uh very tethered to his family doesn't you know he keeps the right people around him uh very focused on football he's another

Starting point is 00:22:51 super versatile guy uh he's he's a guy with question marks about where do you play him is he edge is he linebacker what do you do and teams have been asking that him that as well and he's like you know what i don't i don't want to have to have a positional home. I want to be that chess piece. And a lot of guys don't embrace that because it can be overwhelming, especially when you get to the NFL. But going from Georgia's defense to an NFL defense, you're going from one of the top defenses in the entire country to an NFL defense. So it's not a crazy leap. And a a guy like this if you're going to bet on someone playing multiple roles I think he'd be a wise bet yeah I mean especially with his size that he came in with I think the the Frankie Luvu comps are really coming through with that there

Starting point is 00:23:36 the physicality just you know how he plays how he can play edge and off ball Jalen Walker is a good player in this draft yeah for sure how about you who's that who really stood out to you so far nobody no i'm just kidding uh azaria thomas as well uh just i know i've been high on him this whole process here and i really wish he would have run i'm a little mad at him right now we're a little bit of a yeah a little bit of a spat right now because of that but um yeah i mean the size profile is really nice uh but also the age as well only 20 years old and one thing that really impressed me with his interview is just he talks like he's a way older than 20 i know at 20 if i got there i'd be stuttering and scared and freaked out um if you go back to old locked on videos with locked on commanders back in the day you would actually

Starting point is 00:24:19 hear those things of of me sounding like that but when it comes to him he was very in control of his press conference. I thought he had a lot of great answers to it and seemed like a really team first guy. So Azaria Thomas on the field, I really like his film. I wish his combine was going on, like his testing was going on, but off the field, I'm really impressed with him as well.

Starting point is 00:24:39 Good, yeah, I'll roll through a few more guys here that I really liked speaking with. So Donovan Ezeraku, this guy seems like a football junkie. He studies the game, really wants to learn about guys like momentum and how to use their body against them. And lots of science, you know, but you know, biological stuff, you know, sports medicine, things beyond my comprehension. But that guy's into it.

Starting point is 00:25:05 He goes to Boston college. He's smarter than I am. And he wants to use that to be better as a football player. But no, that guy is a student of the game. And I just really liked what I heard from him running back RJ Harvey. You know, a lot of running backs don't want to embrace the non-sexy stuff like pass protection or even special teams. And, you know, if you're a mid-round running back, if you don't want to embrace the non-sexy stuff like pass protection or even special teams and you know if you're a mid-round running back if you don't want to do that stuff then see you later your chances to in the nfl it's not going to happen and he really wants to do it and you

Starting point is 00:25:35 know he wants to deliver hits and he wants to be really good at pass pro and he wants to do special teams so i i thought that was really key because when you're a running back, even, you know, rookies, they translate so easily, it seems. You're just a play away. And if coaches already like what you're providing them on special teams and you already have like a small role in pass protection, like there you go. You want to run the ball. Here's your opportunity to do it. So Jackson Dart, it's another guy who very confident, very confident without being like overly cocky about it. He's got an answer for everything you throw at him,

Starting point is 00:26:12 it seems. But he's a fiery guy on the field. And I've talked to him at the senior bowl and here, and I found different ways to ask him about leadership. And, you know, I just asked him, you know, you're really fiery on the field, fiery guy. He's, you're not going to see a lack of emotion from him. And I was like, how important is that for you to just like get so amped up on the field and set the tone for your teammates? And he's like, oh, that's everything. I want them following my lead. And, you know, I want to set the example that what we're doing right now, like we're in a big moment and I want people to follow me. So I'm Jackson Dart is growing on me by the day.

Starting point is 00:26:49 Yeah. What do you think about his transition, though, to the NFL from that offense? Do you think he thinks that there's a tough transition? No, I mean, yeah, he he kind of scoffs at the fact that it's a non NFL system. And I actually I was eavesdropping today. I overheard some very smart NFL people that I actually respect talking about that as well. And it's a lot more NFL-based than people give it credit for. It just so happens, and he's had different offensive coordinators

Starting point is 00:27:18 all the time, but it just so happens that offense creates open windows and gets guys wide open. And, I mean, NFL teams are going to want to see him throw into tighter tighter spaces but that's that's just what they did at Ole Miss yeah I mean I think he answered that a little bit at the senior bowl it wasn't the same thing um but I mean he's got a strong arm I think the velocity is there to get it into tight windows but they're they're just gonna have to see it before they believe it. Yeah, I was just messing with Jake there, everybody.

Starting point is 00:27:48 But I will say this real quick. I know we're going to do probably full episodes and stuff on this later in the offseason, but Ole Miss' passing game really isn't that different from the NFL anymore because the NFL has adopted a lot of spread stuff. It really is just their pace of play. They get off so many plays in a game that's really unrealistic. So that's really what throws them off right there and makes those wide-open windows that are unattainable in the NFL. But yeah, Jackson Dart, I think he's a perfectly fine quarterback prospect. Wouldn't take him day two, but we'll see.

Starting point is 00:28:12 Teddy Buchanan was also a standout to me, really smart linebacker who made the jump from the FCS level to Cal this past year. Had well over 100 tackles, tested really well as well. So these guys really come on my radar and I just enjoyed speaking to him. Really smart guy, liked his film study habits from when he was talking with me, and he's a guy who really popped on my radar this week as a result. Yeah, last guy for me, and I wanted to do this for you, Hoosiers. So IU quarterback Curtis Rourke. Obviously, he played through a torn ACL this season.

Starting point is 00:28:43 Really tough situation. Tough kid, though. Like, wow, to do that, number one. But basically going into the season, it was like partially torn, and by the end of the season, the thing was toast. But, you know, they said as long as he was able to get out there and move around a little bit and perform the tasks needed, he wanted to be out there.

Starting point is 00:29:03 Now, the thumb was something he couldn't necessarily play through. Like, I think he had to take a game or two off because, I mean, if your thumb is broken as a passer, what can you do? But the kid played through a lot, and, you know, he was part of turning around an IU program that hasn't been relevant in decades. And, you know, he wanted to be a big part of that, and he, you know, celebrated the fact that uh you know coach kurt signetti is setting something up for the long term and he just got to be a nice small part of

Starting point is 00:29:30 the beginning of it so we all have some curtis work hopefully he ends up in india in some way or another he'll at least be here for the local well do they have they might yeah he might be for local because they have indiana players come as well right yeah you get a lot of guys from you know indiana illinois some ohio guys basically if you've got ties through high school or college to They have Indiana players come as well, right? Yeah, you get a lot of guys from Indiana, Illinois, some Ohio guys. Basically, if you've got ties through high school or college to the area, I mean, he'll be eligible for it. He's from Canada, I think. But, I mean, he played at IU,

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